The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Nightcap - Bengals Upset Jaguars, Zach Wilson vs. Jets, $1M Bet

Episode Date: December 5, 2023

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to the Cincinnati Bengals upsetting Trevor Lawrence and the Jacksonville Jaguars, Zach Wilson's drama with the New York Jets continues, the right way to act on a first date and much more! 00:00 - Introduction02:00 - Bengals beat Jaguars06:30 - Zach Wilson vs. Jets24:30 - Proper First date etiquette39:30 - Sheryl Lee Ralph moves for love53:00 - Chad & Shannon's million dollar bet #Club #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Click that subscribe button and make sure you get notified with Nightcap with Uncun Ocho is coming to YouTube. The Bengals beat the Jags in overtime, Ocho. Browning, Jake Browning, 32 or 37, 354, a touchdown. Trevor Lawrence suffers a nasty ankle injury, and it's just not about this game. It's about the ramifications moving forward. Because the Texans are right there nipping tuck

on their heels in the AFC South. And if he's down for any substantial amount of time, this could be the opportunity that Texas need to overtake the Jag. But let's talk about your Bengals, get a hardball victory on the road to keep their playoff, hopes alive. 34, 31, Jake Browning, 32 or 37, 3-554 to touchdown.

What'd you like about your bingo tonight? They had a balanced tack. They had a healthy dose of not just the run, but also play action. A little, excuse me, a little RPO a little bit, not full RPO because Browning is not one that's like Lamar Jackson to be able to run the ball.

A nice dose of, a nice dose of passes, the T, to Tyler. Chase has some big catches tonight, big clutch catches. and we look good. We look very efficient. I think Browning look exactly like I expected him to look outside of the high look last week. Okay, now you got two weeks under your belt.

You got receivers that make your job somewhat easy. All you have to do is put the ball in a vicinity. You don't have to do much. You don't have to play hero ball. Let them take everything else. And this is what you got to date. You had a quarterback that all we need you to do is be efficient. Don't turn the ball over.

Don't throw any picks. Take what the defense is. gives you and make sure we have a chance to win the game towards the end. And that's exactly what we got from him. Yeah, I think T. Higgins coming back with a big boost for them. Obviously, now you got a guy that can also beat one-on-one coverage when they start rolling coverage towards Chase. But Chase made some big-time catches.

They had a big touchdown run. I think it was a third down when he caught it. He bobbled it and still somehow secured the catch before he went down. I think that ended up leading to a field goal. It's those type of plays that really sets him apart from some of the other receivers, and that's what you expect from a 1-A receiver. Guys make tough plays in tough situations. But you're right, the Bengals played really well last night.

I mean, tonight. Well, last night. Well, last night. Last night, yeah. It's the fans midnight. Yeah, you're fans with that. They played well last night. But they needed this, Ocho.

They really needed this victory to keep their playoff hopes alive. they can afford to lose any more games because the Texans, like I said, but the Texans had already gone and beating them. So the Texans do own the head-to-head match up. But now your situation where you get a little closer to Jacksonville because we don't know their situation. I think also the Broncos are also six and six. And so you know you got the four division winners that get automatic birth

and then you have three wild cards. So every game matters. And so, but I, you know, Trevor Lawrence, man, that was a Parker Washington. The reason why this happened is because Trevor wanted to throw the ball and he over there bulljabing in the route. Bro, get your head around. Yeah, I was looking at number two on the replay. Like, what was he doing? Number level.

Number level. It seemed like, yeah. But you mean the two receiver, but number level, yeah. Yeah, yeah. It seemed like he thought it was like a run the way he came off the ball. You saw that too? Yeah, like he wanted to block somebody. I don't know.

I don't know. where the miscommunication was at, but he was right there. All he had to do was just turn. Turn around. But there was a miscommunication between him and the quarterback. And it's unfortunate,

I know what Trevor got, just based on what happened, it's a high ankle sprain. Mm-hmm. Because he's planning, and the guy, the left tackle, uh,

stepped on his ankle, Hendrix bulls him back. So now he's trying to brace, trying to catch him, and now he steps on Trevor ankle, rolls it over. All that weight, all that weight,

all that weight. Yeah. And you know, when you see a guy slammed the ground, he knows he's injured. He takes his helmet off on the field. He slams it to the term. He knows he's injured. This ain't something like, okay, just let me get to the sideline. Retape it.

I'll be okay. No, I'm injured, guys. I'm injured. I ain't going to sprained him on the joke. Let's get to this, this is what I want you to do. Your boy. Yeah. That's my boy.

That's my boy. I'm going to make sure you steal your boy after this. The Jets reportedly want to make. the switch at quarterback. The team is leaning towards Zach Wilson to take back over, but he's reluctant to stepping back in. Hell no.

Hold on. Aaron Rogers reached out to Zach in an effort to advise him to resume the role as started, but Wilson remained apprehensive due to the perceived injury risk. Hell no. And I don't blame him.

And I don't blame him. I mean, I don't, man, listen, that's like, stay with me a little bit now. Stay with me, baby. The people that are watching, stay with me. Let's say you have a girlfriend in high school, right? Mm-hmm. And y'all are dating.

And all of a sudden, you know what? She say, you know what? This ain't really working out. I don't even want to be with you no more. Mm-hmm. And she's going and deal with somebody else. Mm-hmm. And you know what?

She don't really like him because he ain't nothing like you. You know what? I'm a come on. You know what, I messed up. I ain't really mean that. I think we should rekindle things and get back together. Right. Man, if you don't get up out my face, man,

there's the disrespect. Yeah. The disrespect of what the Jets are trying to do, similar to what they're doing to Mac Jones over there. Oh, bench you. Put somebody else in, bench you. Man, Zach say, I ain't going for that. I ain't going for that.

Do you see what I happen? Do you see what happened with Trepacemian? Did you see what he had to deal with? And you think I'm going to go back in that and back in the game and deal with that? When you tried to put the onus and the blame of the struggles of our team on me and use me as a scapego? Man, please. I don't blame me. You played in the league a long time. So you tell me what you think the other 31 teams are thinking.

Are you done with the NFL or you want to go somewhere? So I want you to tell me what are the other teams thinking. You tell me what his teammates are thinking. See, I told you from the junk. He wasn't a guy. But go ahead. Tell me what you think the other 31 teams are thinking. I'm not sure.

You are sure. Okay. Hold on. The reports are coming out. A player, they want to put a player back in the game, but he's reluctant or apprehensive. They get him killed? What do you want to get him killed? Okay.

I'm just saying, you want to get him, you want to get him killed? The other 31 team, listen, say with me, say with, let me finish. The other 31 teams, the management, the GMs, the people in the front office, and the other 53 players on the other 31 teams, they can see. They watched film. They played the Jets. They can see what's happening. They can see what's happening to the quarterback position at the Jets. He ain't going to lead.

He ain't going to leader. Ain't nobody wanted him on the team. Ain't nobody want him on the team. He ain't no leader. The eye in the sky don't laugh. Oh, Joe. So let me ask you a question. I ain't rolling with that one.

I want you to hear me out. So Zach Wilson would be the first guy that got bent and been asked to go back and resume his starting role. Are you telling me in the 105. year history of the NFL, Zach Wilson would be the first guy, regardless of a position, to lose his job,

and then been asked to go resume his job. You wanted me to get killed? I'm just asking him. I want him to do his effing job. He tried to do it. How are you going to do it running for your life? How the fuck he's going to do a job running for his life? He gets his head knocked off.

So he can't even do a goddamn three-step drop. How is he going to do it? Well, he wasn't reading the coverage. He got benched, right? Stay with me. He got benched, right? Right? He got bench. Yes.

He got binsed because he wasn't able to do a job. He wasn't able to play efficient football. Okay. Put Travis Simeon in there. Yeah. What changed? What happened? Nothing changed.

Nothing. He got hurt. Nothing at all. So why you wanted to go back and do a job when he couldn't do it the first guy at the time? Because that's his job as a football player. You don't get to determine. Well, since you bitch me, I'm going to sit on the sidelines and so your job is a NFL football. So let me ask you question. So guess what?

So I don't have to pay it? No. I'm my ass, do I have to pay it? Hey, listen, I love you. I love you to death. I know exactly what you're talking about. I know exactly where you're coming from, but I'm standing with Zach Wilson on this.

You ain't fined me out there at no goddamn collateral damage to get my ass kicked. Uh-uh. I ain't got nothing to work with. Well, guess what? I ain't got nothing to work with. If I'm a suspension for conduct, I'm a suspending for conduct detrimental.

Listen, don't have me in no wheelchair. Talk about you don't want to kick it? Nah, don't do me like that. I'm going to have to suspend it for conduct detrimental to the team. You ain't got to play. I'll sit you down. You ain't going to get no checks, though. Hey, listen, put me out, put me out there like that,

it's conduct detrimental to my mental health. Put me out there like that. What you think his teammates been thinking? How you think they've been living when he was out there been sucking for two and a half years? Nah, it ain't, it ain't. Well, who in the hell has been great at the quarterback position for the Jets since Joe Nameth?

since you want to blame Zach Wilson for the past two years. What about the other 20 years? Oh. What about the other 20? Mark Sanchez got, how far back do we need to go? So let's your question. Is Mark Sanchez better than, is Mark Sanchez better than Zach Wilson? Because he got him in two AFC championship games riding a top-notch defense.

So I'm going to ask you a game. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Whoa, who got him there? A top-notch, what? Defense. Okay, thank you. Whoa. So now you, hold on.

Now I want you to know, hey, chat, y'all chime in. Chad Ocho Cinco told me the Jets defense like that. When Robert Sondon was talking... The Jets defense is like, they are like that. Yeah. And you know what? The Jets' offenses like that because they got Alan Lazzar

and they got motherfucking Gary Wilson. You want to know who the problem is? Oh. Can I tell you who the problem is? Yeah. Who? The play calling. The play calling.

I don't know. I want to trust you, but I don't know if I can trust you because I know you told me Chase Claypool just needed a change of scenery from Pittsburgh, from Chicago, and when the last time you heard Chase Claypool name called in Miami? Well, God damn. They got goddamn Tyree, goddamn healing.

That's not what you told me. You told me Chase Claypool was a vending machine. All of them. What are the vending machine? You know what a bender machine is, don't you? Oh, you know what a bender machine is? They got a whole lot of things. Sometimes they got sodas.

Sometimes they got chips. Sometimes they got a gum. You know, I've seen bending machine. that had cell phone cameras. You would just give me all these analogies with the cell. But hold on, hold on. When you got a vintem machine, if ain't nobody put no goddamn quarters in you,

ain't nobody buying shit. So what you want to do? Because everybody knows the material in there just sitting on the side. Old ass soda. Who breaking, dragon soda? That's been in half the can because they're evaporated. Nah, no, they ain't got nothing to do with it. They ain't got nothing to do with it.

But listen, I understand what you're saying. And the people in the chat, I want you to listen and stay with me and have a better understanding. and really think about what's going on over there in New York. You're not going to use Zach Wilson as this scapegoat and understand the troubles and the struggles that we are having offensively and then you're going to bench me and say,

well, damn, okay, I'm the issue. We're struggling and then put somebody else in for me and you see him get killed as well. And obviously Aaron Rogers, when he, you know, the few plays he did play, he was having to run for his life in just a short amount of time and nothing has changed. nothing has changed and now to tell me oh now we know we want you to go back in there

hell no you got me fuck the oh you know excuse me I almost curse I apologize I apologize You ain't got to go in there We ain't we got to worry about paying you either I mean He gonna he gonna get that check for all that bullshit Y'all put them through

Hey not if I'm gonna get that Not if I suspend it let me ask you question If the bingo's told Ocho C are gonna go Huh? Suspending for wine Hold on They need they need to spend They need to spin the goddamn front of

who got the goddamn team so goddamn incompetent the past the same and not building the right team or not billing the right team for the goddamn fans of New York goddamn city. That's what they're just suspends. Yeah, you suspended guy that who made the calls? Who made the calls?

Who did the goddamn drafting? Who did the drafting with the jet? Whoever drafted Zach Wilson made a huge mistake. Yeah, who was the same got to draft the Queenie? Who ever been doing the drafting for the Jess to pass 20, 30 years? They need, they they... I don't know about 20 30 years, but I know a guy that's same guy that drafted

a Zach Wilson, drafted Quentin William. That's pretty good. He dropped the foul, sauce gardener. That's pretty good. Really good, yeah. Oh, he drafted Gary Wilson.

That's pretty good. That's very good. Oh, okay. Very good. Okay. Yeah, very good. But there's a certain position that matters in sports,

especially when it comes to the NFL. When it comes to the NFL, you're only as good as your quarterback. You're only going to go as far as your quarterback. What's up here? What's in here? What's in here? Ocho.

What's up here? What's in here, Ocho? You already know what the deal is. I know. Y'all not fin to you, Zach is no goddamn, talk about some, come on, come on. That's like, and you know good and well, if some chick left you

and things didn't go well with the next thing, when she came back trying to holl at you again. Ocho, Ocho, you got to look at a situation like this. Don't even play at my top like that. Ocho, but you got to look at it like, this is like a job. I mean, you might get demoted on the job. Now, you can either leave the job

or they says, okay, it didn't work out. We want you to resume your role. You can say, hell no. And they say, I'm going to fire you or I'm going to suspend you for conduct detrimental. The choices are yours. Where's the conduct detrimental? Ocho, if they try to put you back into your case. Putting him in harm's way off of what, have you been watching the justice season?

I've been watching out there. That's conduct detrimental. Ocho. Ocho, anytime you play in a football game. I'm at a risk. Zach Wilson's at a risk. You were at a risk. Everybody was at a risk.

But the objective, but the problem is is that when they, I couldn't if Mike and them tried to put me in, if Brian Billy them tried to put me in, nah, y'all, y'all ain't been rocking with me this long. Y'all go being on. Come on, you ain't built like that.

That's different. You ain't built like that. Listen, in the owners of the team, the franchise is not on your shoulders. That's completely different. Now, the quarterback position, especially quarterbacks in general, No, they're very, they're very fragile.

They're very fragile, obviously based on, yes, sir. Ocho, how are you going to look at your quarterback and you know what we're going through as a team? And regardless of position. And he said, we are out there fighting. Yeah, fighting what? Fighting what? The Jets still think the guys have. The Jets are playing.

You don't think that defense playing hard? Yeah, you don't think Gary Wilson out there buzzing his ass? the defense is playing extremely well. They are still playing extremely well, even though the offense at this point in the season, they've been up and down. They've been up and down. Zach Wilson tried to do the best that he could

with what he had to work with. I still, honestly, no bullshit. I still think it's the play calling because there's too much talent offensively with Breece Hall, Gary Wilson, and Alizzerd, and creativity that they can have offensively where it should look the way it does. That's all I've been saying.

That's all I've been saying. But here's thing. I'm not saying that's not the case. But just because I got a crappy boss, that does not excuse me from doing my job. Right. That's the problem that he's running into. Let's just say for the sake of argument,

I agree with everything that you said, that Nathaniel Hackett, we saw how he looked miserably in Denver and we see how he's looking now. All those things may be true, but that does not exorbed me of my responsibility of going out there and playing to the best of my. my ability. I can't, you just told me.

I remember I told you by the quarterback and having confidence and a belief. You're like, oh, you're damn, I don't believe. I got a responsibility to do my job. I got to go out of that. Right, right, right. So what happened to your responsibility

to go to do your job? Well, I mean, I was talking about coming from a place of me being me and me going to do. So you want a guy like that? You want a guy like that leading you? That guy right now. Well, listen, if that guy would lead me,

he wouldn't be going through the issues he's going. going through right now. He wouldn't be going to them issues. Man, stop. He wouldn't be going to me. Man, listen you, why you better to check my resume? Hold on. Hold on. So, hold on. So it's not the play callers. So you think... Come first. I wouldn't care what the play... I don't care. I don't

Nathaniel Hacking can call what he's on. When I break that huddle, I say, Zach, if the savings in the middle of the field, I don't care what to play call, let that bitch come my way. Oh, Joe. I'm a, I'm a, I'm going to make your job easy. You got the right one. I'm going to make your job easy. Yeah.

I mean, look at, look at how he looked last year when the other quarterback was in there with Gary Wilson. He went off his and play out of year, rookie at a year. Hmm. Which is, he didn't have to be Einstein. He just had to have marginal competence. That's it.

That's it. But again, who's calling the plays again? Nathaniel Hackett. Okay. I, listen, I'm not one to talk about people, but, I mean, let's talk about the elephant in the room before we get the blame in Zach Wilson. But anyway, let's go.

We got 3,000 votes so far. 57% we agree with, 43% agree with you. Come on, man. 57% what y'all doing that? Think about your job. Think about your workplace. If your boss played with your head like that. You know what?

I don't even really thank you the one for the job. Where are you working at? So we're going to move on to Larry. Wait, we're going to move on to Larry and let Larry do it. They get Larry and that motherfucker for a week and then your boss come back to you, you know what? Larry wasn't it, man. Larry wasn't it?

Yeah, you think you could come on back. Hell, no. Oh, Joe. Don't play me like that. You just, hold on, did you just tell me as hard as the economy is right now and these, God forsakey times that people can just turn down jobs and the holiday is right around the corner? Yeah, holiday round the corner now.

Exactly. So guess what? When Larry did paying out and your boss come back and say, hey, you think you could feel back here, what you think they'd be? going to say what the holiday right rather call them? I sure can. That's exactly what they're going to say.

Okay, that was a horrible that was a horrible analogy. I'm hoping people understand where I'm coming from, but I understand. I'm going to empathize with Zach because he's done all he can. You think about training camp and all season program and all the work you put in and things aren't panning out and they sit you down and all of a sudden

they try another quarterback and you on a bench you like, damn they try me. Look at the fucking bullshit I got to deal with. And then, oh, now you want me to come back and, man, man, don't, man, don't get me started. Oh Joe, I got, I got Nathaniel High Vodish 52 donated to $20. Another show, Ocho, another $20. Hey, Ocho, just cause my job causes me stress. I still got to show up if I want to get paid in this damn economy. Everyone thinks I'm a cowboy hater because of my critiques. Objective cowboy fan. Hey, Nathan High's Votage 52. Didn't I tell you there's no such thing?

is objective and cowboy fans merge together. But I appreciate you, man. I really appreciate you, Nathan, watching the show, man. It means a lot to us that we have so many regular people that tune in on Sunday, Mondays, and Thursdays, and sometimes coming up in the very near future, we're going to have some Saturday night game. So we really appreciate it.

But we understand you're absolutely right. Just because your boss stresses you out, if you want to get paid in this economy, mortgage, card note, utilities, grocery. Listen, I like where you're going with it. I like where you're going with it, but I don't like, I don't like the,

it's not a fair assessment to really compare the NFL athlete with us working, with us working people, you know? You got a job, show your ass up and do your job. Ocho, there have been a lot of times. Coaches have said something, have done things. I still got to do my job. It does not absolve me of doing my job

because they pissed me off. Man, y'all ain't called no play for me, lad. I ain't running a route. Right, right. But, you know, I'm with you. I'm with you. I'm with you right and you're wrong at the same time.

Can I say that? Okay. Listen, two things can be true. Okay, we're going to agree. Two things can be true. But I'm still sad with Zach for the disrespect of what they're doing and understanding what, you know what. Be disrespecting the jazz with that play.

All right. I ain't going to say now. You're right. I'm going to agree with you. You're right. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential.

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When you go on a date, that's the problem today, man. You're going to date. Women are all about being cute. Yeah. They're all about being cute. Or I'm going to eat a little bit. Oh, I'm shy or I'm timid. I'm scared to eat in front of them. Well, you get one of the women, unk, man. Listen, when you get one of them women, you take on a date,

she's look at the menu, she's assertive. She knows what she's wrong. She order her food. Look at you. Baby, you're good. Okay, I'm fin to get in this. You need anything? No. Okay, boom. And she's going to work. Man, that's what I'm talking about. I like them. Them your day ones. Yeah.

Them your day ones. Them the ones you keep around. All the motherfucking cute shit and trying to pretend you somebody. I eat a salad. Yeah, I'm just salad and I don't really do this on the first night. Well, you know, with the drinks. I'm good. I don't want none of that.

Yeah. Be yourself. I don't want to meet your representative. Yeah. Every time you go on a date, you're meeting somebody representative. Please show your true colors from day one. So it ain't no surprises down the goddamn line. If you're greedy, be greedy on the first date.

Yeah, go ahead. Be greedy on the first date. I just know I got to work harder to make sure I feed you. Hell, I'd rather close you to feed you. You eat like that. That's it. That's all to it. Man, I never forget.

Me and Baby, me and baby went, you know, obviously on our first date, man. And, man, she, I'm, God damn. Did you eat the day? Yeah. Man, she, boy, she was gone. I'm, yeah. I know, I just won one time. I love it.

I won one time to say, somebody tell me, Shana, I'm going to take you out of dinner. I ain't going to eat for three days. When I get done with ass, you're going to think I'm Joey Chestnut. I'm like, he ate Sim the hot dogs. When I get done with all the plays, Ocho, I'm going to have him. I'm going to have to look at it and be like, who got about to play? You know how that girl had on order the, what, the 40 oysters?

Yeah. Bad. He would tripping. Yeah, I'm going to tip. I don't be that great. Look, I want you to be sick. Hey, order something. Eat it all, baby.

I ain't judging you. I'm not judging you. If you want to get a appetizer, take off. You want to get a salad? Take off. You want to get an entree? Dang, dang, dang what you said. Now, what you told, what you told,

I know the chat, they watch it. They watch the show now. What you told the chat? What come with lobster? Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm talking about, no, no, no. Hold on Ocho, Ocho. I ain't have no bread like that then.

Oh, okay. I have no bread like that. No, no, no, I got a little bread now, but still the order. No, no, no, no lobster. Now, come on now. We can get, we can get, we can get, you know, we can get a piece of fish. We can get the Dover's soul.

We can get the Scottish salmon. We can, come on now. We can, we can be sensible now. Okay, okay, okay, okay. Okay, I'm just checking. Y'all tried to come in to get, I had the context. I had the context. Yeah, y'all coming in and trying to get the seafood tower.

They got three lobster tail, you know, four crab claws, scallops, oranges. Yeah. Come on now. Okay, you're right. You're right. but yeah, I wouldn't have a problem if I went on a date and she ate everything. I mean, I'm expected.

I mean, you said you wanted to go out to eat. Go to eat, yeah. And it's not last minute because I'm not a last minute type of a guy. So, uh, so, uh, that's the only, that's the only problem. Ladies, ladies, I'm sure there are a lot of women in the chat, man. If you go on a date, you're going on dates, you're going on dates with dudes, man. Stop trying to impress, man. Stop trying to do all this, you know, all this cute shit, man.

yourself, you know, show him what he's going to have to expect. You go eat, you're going to eat, be greedy. Use your foot, use your hands, all that cute. Yeah, there's certain things, chicken, ribs. Those are handful. They're not food. They're not food that you cut off with a fork and do all that trying to be cute. Yeah.

As a matter of fact, if you get ribs and you get dirty, you know how to the ribs be up under your nails. Yeah, yeah. Take your finger. Take with all the ribs and stuff on it and the barbecue sauce. man, putting his mouth on the first date. Huh? Yeah, man.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Now you're speeding, nah. We're in the night, we're in the school zone. You know, you can't go more than 50, 20, miles and hour in the school zone. No, no, no, I'm not speeding. I'm not speeding. I got my seatbelt on.

Yeah, no. I got my seatbelt on. Mm-mm. But listen, you got, listen, we got to understand. Now, you're going on dates. You're going on dates with the sole purpose of reaching the end goal. We know what the end goal is. Ain't, ain't nothing wrong with a little foreplay

before you get there. Yeah, that's what the... I don't know, not no, thank you. Come on, Ocho, come on, Ocho, we got to build up to that. That's like, that's like six months in. You, hold on, hold on, hold on, I'm going to do, oh, hold on, I'm going to do one of you. I'm going to pull you. Y'all got to take my glass up on that.

Hold on. Hold on. Hold on, okay, okay, maybe six months is a little long. But you, you're looking fingers on the first night? And the first, looking fingers in to, what you're talking about? Not on the first night. night, Ocho. God, man, the first, man, man, listen, if anybody in his chat from Miami, listen, boy, me and Reel, I, I can tell you, I can tell you all business, because we family,

we family, and everybody watching, we family, and I don't have nothing to be shamed up. First night, boy, we was in, we was in Okachovie at the, at the executive palace, $30 room with a disco ball and the jacuzzi. Yeah. Listen, I ain't got time to play no game with you. Ocho. What you, wait, hold on, listen, stay with you. with me, now? I'm, listen, I'm 45, 55 years old. I'm about to kick the bucket in the minute.

What you're trying to do? We're going to be together now? I ain't got time to be going on three days. I ain't got time to be no 90-day rule. I ain't got time for that shit. What you are? Listen, when you go, man, I'm just, I ain't got time to waste. So you go up for all the old. Toes, elbows, and you're able one more left.

Huh? Oh, I mean, you heard me. Listen, what? Listen, when you go to the car wash, you want you, you You want your shit detail, don't you? When you go to the car wash, you want you shit detail, don't you? From the toes to the feet, from head to toe, everything, back to front, everything getting touched. What? Ocho, I can't get full service on the first night.

You know what I said? I ain't got my $15. I ain't got my $15. Give me with them quick, give me with them quick watch. You're going for a full detail. You get the end, the out, the engine, everything. Come on, Ocho. You know, what's funny is that I have a better understanding, you know, when you're younger.

When you're younger, you're in your 20s. You know, you're a teenager. I understand the waiting and understanding the process and the process of getting to know. But when you get, as you get older, you understand, you know, the gray area, the in between and the understanding that when you meet somebody, you're meeting a representative of themselves. You don't see their true colors until you've been together for three or six months. Or if they already gotten what they wanted to attain from you, which, Normally nine times out of ten that the sex is good,

that they're going to be around anyway. So why not get it out the way? Oh, yeah. Yeah, Unk, why not get it out? Just get out the way as you get older. You don't want to play that game no more. I ain't want to play that game. Real, listen, we're meeting.

We're going to go to dinner. You want to go eat? We went to eight. Boom, man, you know, sweet. They got some nice rooms over here highly a man, $30 room, man. The executive palace, I ain't really trying to spend no money like that. What are you trying to do?

Oh, she would. Oh, yeah, not four. years later, where we're at? Yeah, yeah. We get married next year in the Bahamas, man. And you'll, I got your first one. That's your... You see how that worked?

That's your... I ain't waste no time. You don't have to waste no time. But the face of the little chose on the first one? On the first one? With the barbecue sauce. With the barbecue sauce. I don't even really be looking at my hand like that.

That's the problem. Uncle, you got to live a little bit. You got to expand your horizon, man. I got to go to the bathroom and watch your hands for it. You know, like you'll look at. little key, you know, the mama wash the hand with the little kid, dad, watch the hands. I got to watch your hand myself then. No, you don't have to do that.

I got to do that, you got to give your, listen, I want you to be healthy, baby. I want you to, I want you to be around the C-90. You got to give your immune system practice. You don't need the, you can't, you got, it's okay to be dirty some time. Give your immune system time to practice. If you always cleaning yourself, your body ain't getting no practice on the inside. Come on, nah. I don't know about that one, Joe.

I'm having to get that one. Hey, hey, listen, I'm feeling good. We're going to be on this motherfucker three hours a night because I'm feeling good. Oh, Joe, check this out. Rale's friend, the doctor just donated $500 again. She said, happy holidays. I like to invite you as my plus one to an event

hosted by one of your fellow Hall of Fame brethren. I'm on the board. I will apprise rail of the details. Cheers. Yes. That's 2000. That's 2000, boy Hey, Unk, listen here, Unk, I ain't

Never seen none like this. I ain't never This is what I'm talking about. Ladies, take notes In life, it's okay to be assertive When you see something you want, you go for it. You drop little hints, you drop little dimes, you do things that get you in the dough. So in other words, I'm listening to you.

So you like sex on the first day, you first night, you're good with that. Huh? You good with sex on the first day? What's you waiting for? What you wait? If you're grown, what you're waiting for? See, this is the problem.

Now you sit around here, wait, let's stay with me now, baby. You sit around here and you go through all these motherfucking, traditional motherfucking values and morals and all that shit. You do your little three months and all of a sudden you do it, and it's bad. Then what you're going to do? Now you don't waste a three months of your goddamn time. Waited three months of your goddamn time.

And now you don't want no more of that bullshit. I waited three months for this shit. This whack? She's all off rhythm. and, you know, she's doing this. And like, come on, huh? It's in people in the chat, don't be laughing. I know some of you're laughing because you've been through it

and you know exactly what I'm talking about. I'm about the first day. I'm about the first night. I'm about the first hour. That's too long. I ain't got that kind of time. Oh, show, like you said, I'm 55. I don't know how much time.

I need to go to be that in. Listen, sometimes, listen, the different strokes for different folks. Right. I'm just telling you me, I mean, what's worked for me as I've gotten old in life and understanding all that waiting and all that, you know, going through all the rigmarole,

it doesn't change the end result, no matter what you do. It doesn't change the end. The end result is going to be the end result no matter what. If I rock with you, it could be the first night, the second night. If I ain't going to rock with you, I can wait a week, I can make a month,

I can make six months. Yeah. It is what it is. Yep. There's nothing. And ladies, it's, it's, And look, I'm not saying there's anything wrong. If you want to wait, that's a personal purpose.

I'm not here to judge what you do or what you and your partner, the agreement that you guys have or whatever they are. Like, hey, I need 30 days. I need 45 days. I need 60 days. Right. Uh-uh. Listen, you can wait two years.

You can wait one day. Yeah. Whatever his intentions are. regards to how long you wait, he is going to be there if you are that one. Real talk. Real talk. Oh, oh, Joe. Oh, Joe.

See, you may see, like, you may, you may, you make things happen for real. See, I was in a situation like, I made reservations. And the place that I made reservations to, it had burned, it called fire. So it was closed. So I called her. Fire? Yes. The restaurant had closed.

So I call her and tell her, say, hey, look, we're not going to be able to go out to eat because the restaurant closed. Because she's like, why did it close? I said it burned down. You know what she said to me? You were lying. She said, what the if that got to do with me? She said, you're that end, right? You're Shannon Sharp.

She talked to you like that for real? She said, you're that in, right? She said, you're Shannon Sharp. You big balls McGee. No, that's not a liability. Make it happen. I was like, oh, really? She said, that's a liability.

Hold on, look, you told me, you told me you were that boy dog. I had to get on the phone and had to make a, because, oh, Joe, I don't like, for me, I don't really like to call establishments and tell people who I am. I'll go through the proper channels. I call. Can I get a reservation for such a son? If they booked up, oh, I call, I'll call. I call and I'll get in another time.

I don't really like to call and say who I am to try to. to get in. I don't really do that. But, you know, I know a few people. I made it happen. Yeah. Good thing I did. Yeah, I don't like the way she came at you, though. I don't like that. I don't like that. I don't like that. I don't like that. I don't like that.

You did? Yeah. That was aggressive, though. Yeah. Amo A. Ocho, you know what I tell him if it ain't rough, it ain't me. Okay. Talk to me in a term that I can understand. That passive, don't be passive aggressive. Tell me what you want.

And if I can do it, I'm going to make it happen. If I can't, I'm going to tell you that I can't make it happen. And there ain't no problem. I ain't got no problem telling you what I can or can't do. Right. Because I'm a type of guy promises like pie trust, thin and easily broken. I'm going to make a commitment. So if I can do it.

Hold on now. Let me write that down. That woman, let me give a pen and paper. Yeah, if you think, boy, if you think I ain't going to use that one on real. What? Pie crust. Promises like pie crust. They're in an easy bro.

Promises like prox. So if I tell you something, I have every intention on being able to deliver that. Right, right. So, like I said, talk to me. I'm not saying be disrespectful. I like that. But what he was saying is that. that if you are what you said you were,

what you claim to be. Right. You got to stand on that. Yes. I know you can make it happen. Right. I like that. I like that.

That's okay. Let's make it happen. Check this out of the film. I'm glad you just said that because the doctor, the doctor, you listening, you're listening. He tells me what you need to do. Be a little aggressive. Be a little aggressive.

Yeah, there you go. I like that. I like that, Ojo. Despite being married for 15 years, Cheryl Lee Ralph is finally moving in with her husband, Vincent. At 15 years, the two have been in a bi-coaster relationship for 15 years. Cheryl worked on Abbottes Elementary and kept her ankle in L.A., while Vincent's responsibility had him tied to Philadelphia. But according to a source, regular visit every two weeks is no longer enough.

Cheryl is moving to Philly. She will travel to L.A. to work. But the moment the camera stops rolling, she's heading home. to her husband. Wow. Wow. Traditional values on the way things work ain't for everybody. No. Ms. Shirley Ralph has been smiling

for 20 plus years. No issues, no problems. So she did what works for her. I think one of the problems that we always had, have is the traditional values in the way we are constructed to believe things are supposed to go in life. What society says normally is. The socially constructed things, you try to abide by a certain set of rules that don't really fit who you are. Right.

Sometimes they don't feel who you are. You have to do what works for you. And I think that's what people make the mistake in trying to abide by those rules when they really don't align with your traditional values or whatever your values may be. And that is, this is a prime example. Well, fuck what they talk about how she should go. We're going to do what work for us. And I think that's why she's been so happy for so long. And the timing of when they decided to move in, it works for them.

We need more time with each other. Every two, the once every other week, either I come to, either I come to Philly or you come to L.A., that's no longer sustainable. You need more, I need more. So now we have a meeting of the mind. That's all a contract used to be a meeting of the minds. Oh, Joe, you know what?

There was no contract when you signed something. We had a meeting of the mind. Okay, Eau, I tell you what, I'm going to deliver you a dozen eggs and two pounds of cheese. And you give, when you slaughter your hog, you're going to give me a shoulder or you're going to give me some grain. Okay, that was the contract. Somewhere along the lines, you got what you were supposed to get, but didn't give me what I was supposed to get. And so now there was no longer a meeting of the minds. So now we got to put things on an eight by 10.

We got to have a contract. They said, okay, you're going to deliver the pound of cheese and you're going to deliver the eggs. And in return, you're going to get this. So the contract that they had with each other. And you know what, Ocho, it was able to be amended on the fly. Right. Because when you go into it, what am I getting into?

Who is this person? Well, you know she was an act. Actress. You know he had responsibilities in Philly, but you decided to tie to not. Okay. And before they had it like, okay, so what's going to be the agreement? Am I going to stay in L.A.? You stay in Philly.

We commute. And that worked for them for 15. Right. Right. Hell, I know people get married and they don't, I mean, they don't sleep in the same man. Yeah. But that worked for them.

I wonder, you know, I should try that. What do you think about? Nah, because you know, I have a separate room. You and Reel them been living together because she's going to thank something up because any time you check,

that sits off a person's antenna. Right, right, right. I can't change my routine, huh? You start wearing different cologne. She starts wearing different cologne. All of a sudden, she started wearing, you know, she normally wear, you know, she'd normally wear, you know, nice French cuss boy short,

and all of a sudden, she's wearing thong underwear. Oh, she ain't wearing no one. Hold on. Hold on, honey. All of a sudden, all of a sudden, all of a sudden she started working out. My grandfather's saying, my grandfather's saying, hey, boy, if a woman start working out all of a sudden, he's getting a body ready for somebody else to feel naked.

I'm just saying, Ocho, that's what he said? Oh, shit. That's all right. Boy, let me call her right now. I ain't got, I don't like the way that sound. She wants somebody else to see what our body looked like without them clothes. Oh, well, that right there makes me sick. That makes me sick to my stomach.

No, Ocho. But the thing is is that you know, you know. know, you've been with a long enough. And that's why women, that's why, you know, women can catch a guy because all of a sudden you start doing something different than what you've done from the day she met you. And she's going to see pattern. Right, right, right, right, right, right. It's hard.

That's why we are animals. We're instinctive. And we'll do the same thing. That's why elephants know, they know where to go to the war. Yeah, that too. Humans. You try to break it. But you have a motorsop around that.

You have a method in which you operate. Operate, yeah. And mine has never changed for years, for years. So you already know when I'm acting a fool when my routine changes. I do the same things over and over and over. And if that pattern changes or swayed just a little bit, I'm up to no good. And she knows that. That's good.

But really quick, before you even finish, a lot of the people, a lot of the women, especially a lot of the fellas too. Okay. The context of the Shirley, the Sherley Ralph and them doing what works for them. I need most of you, all of you that are watching and listening, stop trying to abide by the rules that they have.

I'm not going to say brainwashed, that they have constructed for us to live by. Because sometimes that might not work for you. It might not work for you. You find a fine part and I find your one, or find somebody you're willing to spend time with, even if it ain't for the, a long haul, whoever you spend

your time with, do what works for you. Right. Do what works for you because obviously the way they tell us it should be done, it ain't working because if you look at statistics, ain't looking too good. Well, you're sure that the average marriage in the U.S. they said a study, I think it was 2022 or 223. The average marriage is about seven to eight years. So they've already doubled that with 15.

So, but, and, keep people out your business. Stop telling your girlfriends, everything. Stop telling your family everything. And you'll be just fine. Mm-hmm. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games.

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What did that mean? That's something new? It's the ability to attract or seduce another person. Okay, okay, I like that. The ability to seduce or attract another person? I thought I thought that was swag. Yeah. Well, you know, that was a, what they call? Hold on, what is you to?

Charm. Charm, let me see. Fris, the ability to attract. Yeah, most, I mean, when it comes to women, women like a guy that carries himself a certain way. They like confidence. They like a sense of humor. Yeah, that's swag.

That's all the part of the, it's under the same umbrella. Women like, women like men that can make them laugh. Like a confident man that can make them laugh. them laugh. If you confident it can make a man laugh or make a woman laugh yeah. Ocho. Yeah, laugh, laugh right up at them

Chloe. Easy. Boy, you're so crazy. Boy, you're funny. Okay. Yeah. You know, I keep my five or six over, Ocho. I didn't keep five or six handy just the case. You know what I'm saying.

You know, keep them coming. Bang questions, unculture jazz. Hey, Uncle Ocho, outside of normal things, what are some of the more unrecognized things you guys go through throughout the season? Throughout the season? Unrecognized? Yeah.

Shoot, I don't really go through nothing throughout the season. I just think that's just a normal responsibility. I think the thing is for me is that the amount of responsibility as of the head of everything, you know? Right. My family, I'm. in charge.

Okay. So when they need something, I'm the guy. And that's why I work so hard, excuse me, because I have so many people counting on me. And I don't want to let anybody down. Damn, I'm good. But I got kids. I got my brother, my sister, my mom.

I've got other people, other responsibilities. Now I got a team that's counting on me to show up and to do what I need to do to make sure they get their paychecks, twice a month that everybody's bills are taken care of. So I just think the thing for me is that, and it's something that I relish, is that I think every person that I've been with probably over the,

probably the last 15 years, have pretty much told me the same thing. I don't know if a relationship is the most important thing to you. I think work and your responsibility that comes along with that is the most important. So I've tried to try to like, okay, yeah, work is important. People are counting on me. But let me, because I'm not good at multitasking.

You know, like a lot of women can do a hundred things. They can have the baby. They can be on the computer ordering this. They can be doing the stuff that you've asked them to do. I can't do any of that. Yeah. I mean, not. Right.

Now that you've answered that and given me better context on the question that he asked because it was kind of just really wasn't enough context in it, but the way you answered it, I mean, it's similar to the same as far as in-season things they have to do, but it's such a routine that I do out of season as well, because I don't even count it. You know, you know what I mean? It ain't no season.

It ain't no season. It's something that, it's a yearly thing. It's a year-round thing, and it has been for years because I'm used to it. Obviously, kids, being important, kids, tuition, those that are in school, and the little ones, obviously, you know, kids in high school. So it's kind of different.

So that's why I said as soon as the question was asked, what else do you have to go through during, you know, in season? I'm like, shit, nothing. Because all I got to do is, you know, just be prepared for work. Because everything else outside of that is something that goes on year round for me. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, and when I had the surgeries, you know, I had back-to-back hair replacement surgeries.

And so now I got to focus, you know, hey, you got to get back on your feet ASAP, and to make sure that you're still able to do what you need to do. Because I'm not an excuse guy. You do what you say. I got responsibilities. I don't do the excuses. And I think my grandmother, my grandfather, that's how they raised me. We don't make excuses.

You get the job done. Yeah. And then you don't complain about that you had to do it. And so for me, that's what I've always done. I've always, you know, and I have a special fondness to people that have such a such responsibility and do it every day with a smile in the face. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Third, I woke ass, Ocho and Shannon, what are your thoughts on Vontes Burfing, how he played the game and the ending of his career? And also, Ocho, can you tell us about the character behind the closed doors and who he was as a person? I was gone when Vontes got into the league. So I was long gone. So all I can tell you from what I saw from a distance, you can explain to him because you were on the roster when he got there.

No, no, no, I was, I was going to. Were you? Yeah, Von Tez is the AJ Green Andy Dalton era. Oh, okay, okay, okay. Listen, but he's supposed to have been playing during your era. He would have been, Vince, Vontes Berger was perfect for your era. Right. You know, or more so the era I played in where you could actually play like that.

Right. You know, football. Right. Originally, you think about football. You think about middle line. and playing no games when it came to playing the game of football. That's who Vontas Burriff was. It wasn't accepted.

Obviously, once the rules came in a place, came in the play, and protecting players and head injuries and CT and all that stuff. But I like him. I like him. I like the way he played the game. Barnboy asked me, your knee was down at the one-yard line on 11-16-03 against the charges. How many touchdown do you think would have been overturned

today's replay was in effect when you played. They had replay when I played. The charges could have challenged it. It said it wasn't a touchdown. Hmm. I don't know what you want me to do. I was supposed to jump into an official. Hey, man, you know I'm on the one yard line.

There ain't no touchdown. Mark me down at the one. If they didn't think it was a touchdown, they could have challenged it. Right. So I look, I know when I say I played in the 90s, but there was replay. I don't know how

it wasn't y'all make it seem like I play with a black and white TV like they were filmed like they were filming on the sideline like this oh Joe what that I mean I understand I'm 55 but I did play I would be considered a modern day player

any player that happened after the common draft which I think is like 1966 is considered a modern player. So I think they would consider me a modern player. Uncle Ocho, Jared asked, Uncan Ocho, love the show. Oh, do you think you could do 225 for more refs than Ocho could do 1.85?

Do you think you could do 225 on the bench for more reps than Ocho could do 185? Why would he discredit me and put me at 185 when I could do 225 as well? What is he trying to say? But you're only going to do it for one rep. So he's trying to give you an advantage. 225? I could do 225-27 time.

What is you talking about? Oh, Cho, I tell you what I'd be willing to do. I put up a million dollars say you can't do it 20 to 25 to 227. You're going to run me my money. You're going to run me my money. No chance. This is what people fail to do. People always have an eye test.

People always use the visual. Listen to me. Stay with me now, baby. People always use the visual and look at something and say. You got a teacher on. You got a teacher on up under that. Because his frame is small He shouldn't be able to do this

You got a t-shirt on the upper of that? Yeah Take a shirt, take that off. Let me show the people. Yeah, I know, hey, y'all ladies don't be looking at me now. Yeah. Yeah, let me come up out of this thing.

Let me come up at this thing. Yeah, you see that? Look at that. I do. I do. I just look like this. I just look like this. I have a small frame, but I'm strong.

You ain't doing it. You ain't doing no 225 or 27. How are you going to tell me and I've done it? I've done 225 27 times. No. I just look like this. I'll tell you what we can do. We can pull up what you did at the combine.

Pull up Ocho. What is the combine? Ain't got nothing to do with it. You talk about right now. Ocho, first of all, this is how I know you can't do 227. Because when you went to the combine, that was your operation. Hold on. I didn't even lift.

Let me finish. Let me finish. The combine was when you're on the job interview. you're going to be at your absolute best. You're going to be at your fastest. You're going to be at your best because that's the job interview. You don't even lift like that anymore. I'm not so sure.

I'm not so sure you can do $2.25, 5 times. I didn't even lift weights at the combine. All I needed to do was run my 40 and run routes. Once they saw my route, that was it. That's still the deal. That's how I know you can't do $2, $2,25, 27 reps. I'm talking about now. It's about now.

Now, if you said you do $185, like 10, times, I say, okay, you might get that. You might get that. I'm very strong, despite my frame. I am extremely strong. So if you want to put that million dollars, stay, make sure you stand on business by that million dollars, too. Bill.

I'm going to do a video when I get back to Miami. No, you're going to do no video. I'm going to do no video. I'm going to be there. What? I don't need no video. I don't need no video. Wait, wait.

No. What I bring here? Huh? I'm a video. I'm a video. I don't need no video. I'll need no video. I'm going to be right there in your presence.

I'm going to bring a million dollar cash. You bring yours. We put it right there. Wait, what I'm taking a million out for? Because you're going to put you bet me a million. Nah, you said you bet you bet the money. You bet the money. Put up.

I'm putting up a meal. You put up a meal. So I'm walking away with two million. You're walking away with two million. You know what? I'm a million for me and a million for real. You know, we appreciate that. Happy holiday.

Yeah. I tell her real, I tell her to put up a million too because I got to cover her too. So it's two million. I like that. Yeah, I like that, too. It's cold in Philly, man. I might, I might, hey, with $2 million, with $2 million, I might find me somebody in a hotel. You already got somebody.

She donated you $2,000. Hey, well, guess what? And her friend about to donate me a million. Her friend of her hub about to donate me $2 million. So I'm about to have $2,000. Hey, it's cold, it's cold. Hey, I could turn to heat on in the room. That doesn't, that doesn't count.

That don't count. is my um no my um my uh what what you call would they take a credit call for at the front desk room uh room uh room uh incidentals no it's yeah that the heat don't count for that huh no no you have order room service oh okay okay because you know it's 40 it's 40 degree that's why i got the jacket on here but i ain't want to turn i ain't want to turn the heat on because i thought it charged charged my credit card no no it won't charge okay let me turn the heat on in so i can take the damn jacket off make you kill you Make sure you click that like button.

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Warner for someone special A bottle of shade Bottle of Porte Yacht Ocho, what else you got to talk about? We got to get ready. Ooh, man, it was 1 o'clock. Yeah, I don't know. I got inside the NFL tomorrow morning.

Would you got first take tomorrow? I got first take tomorrow. I got first take tomorrow. I got first take. Okay. And I got a six-hour flight back to L.A. Wait, where are you at? I'm in NYC.

Oh, you write down? We could have did the show from the same room. I'm in Jersey. man I had a busy day today Ocho I had a I did my podcast I did club shay-shea I shot somebody today up here

Who you had? Oh you can't say who can't say who was But I think it's gonna be a great one I got a couple I got a couple coming out over the next month It's gonna blow some people away Because these people hadn't done an interview In a very long time And they share some stories

I'm not so sure anybody's ever heard So I'm anxious to hear I'm anxious to hear how the, how people receive the guys that I'm having on. And I still got, I'm still, I'm still shooting. But like I said, I got three or four, three or four people that people are going to be surprised. Like, hey, he on club, Shay, Shay, Shay, oh, do it. Yeah, you know, oh, hey. Like that.

Yeah, man, I'll be trying to get that thing in. So thank you for joining another episode of Club, Club, Shay, Shay, of Nightcap with Uncle. I'm your favorite sports uncle, Shannon Sharp. he's your favorite number 85. He's so proud. He's so happy. His team went on the road without Joey B and got a hard fought victory in overtime, 34, 31. Jake Browning was really, really good tonight.

32 or 37, 354 in a touchdown. Trevor Lawrence suffers a nasty ankle injury. We don't know the extent or if he will, but it looks like he might miss some time, Ocho, which would be very, very costly for the Jag because they have the lead in the AFC South, but the Texans are, excuse me, right on their heels. And when the way C.J. Stroud is playing and the way D'Amico Ryans have them playing

as a team, I would not be surprised if Trevor Lawrence is out for any significant period of time, if the Houston Texans don't, doesn't overtake them and end up winning that division, which would be a huge accomplishment, which now D'Amico Ryan must be a unanimous coach of the year. And C.J. Stroud, even though Pooka Nakuwa is having an unbelievable C. season, but 20 and 5 with the numbers that he's putting up, and I think CJ might be in top five in passing yards. Crazy. Yeah, man.

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