The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Nightcap - Cowboys blow out Eagles, Chiefs lose to Bills, Zion's weight

Episode Date: December 11, 2023

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to Dak Prescott and the Dallas Cowboys beating Jalen Hurts and the Philadelphia Eagles on Sunday Night Football, Josh Allen and the Buffalo Bills upsetting Patrick Mahomes and the Kansas City Chiefs, Brock Purdy's growing MVP case, Zion Williamson's weight issues, Jada Pinkett-Smith's latest comments, and much more! 00:00 - Introduction01:36 - Cowboys beat Eagles12:45 - Bills beat Chiefs30:45 - Brock Purdy's MVP Push42:30 - Jets win, Zach Wilson balls out1:27:00- Zion's weight issues1:40:00 - Jada Pinkett-Smith speaks out1:45:00 - Much More Nightcap! #Club #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Ocho, we got a pack show, so we're going to get right into it tonight. Yes, sir. The Cowboys beat the Eagles. 3313. Dak Prescott 2439, 271, two touchdowns. The Cowboys have now scored 30 plus points in all seven home games, eight straight when you go back to the final game last year. It's the longest streak across the NFL since the Broncos did it

in 11 games spanning 2012 and 2013 season. Jaila Hertz was 18 to 27, 197. Devante Smith, fun with the football, third turnover for the Eagles, the night, one shy of matching their season high for against the, Jets. Yeah. So what was some of your takeaway from tonight's game, Ojo? I mean, my takeaway, first of all, was Dak, Dak playing a, deck playing a very, very, very good ballgame. Obviously, you said it already. He was 24 for 39 for 271 yards. And I've always said this. We said that

all the Cowboys hadn't beaten anybody. Obviously, they just beat a very, very good, but what we thought was good, tend to Eagles team. Obviously, they dominated in all three phases of the game. But more importantly, the receiver showed up to date. I think when, When it comes time to playoff football, we're going to need C.D. Lamb, Brandon Cooks, and Michael Gallup to do what they did tonight. Continue to make plays and make that job easy to where he can facilitate and just do what he needs to do to make sure they win the game and not turn the ball over. Obviously, they took the – excuse me – took one – got one off of him. They – yeah, they did get – I'm sorry. They did get one off of them, but they were able to overcome that because the Eagles obviously turned the ball over four times, them damn selves. that goddamn Stefan Gilmore tonight.

That damn Stefan Gilmore, man, played phenomenal football, man. That is how you play defensive back. Oh, Joe. He played really well. Before I get into my thing, okay, they come with the blitz. And this is what I say,

understanding and have football IQ. Right. This is what I don't get with Devante. He sees us a blitz. So now, and Stefan Gilli is playing off. You run the, shallow. Ocho, you know he's driving. As soon as you catch this ball, you stop and pivot up out of it. Why would he continue to run, Ocho, when he know the guy driving? You got to have spotty

sense is tingling. Oh, he's driving on this where I'm back up out of there. And go to other way. Yes, Ocho. That's, Ocho, that, okay, I get it. That's a graduate level receiver move, but him being who he is, a Hizman trophy, a Blitzin the car boy winner, a top 10 pick. you got a feel that you've got a sense. And you remember you and I was talking about it earlier. From the defense, you know, okay, this is where the collision, based on the defense that I thought they were in, this is where the collision is going to come from. So you have an understanding of what's going on.

So I know on a blitz situation, I'm running, they call it, some people call it drive, some people call it shell across, whatever you want to call it, drive shell across. I know Gilly has to drive to try to beat me to the point. So now all I'm going to do is catch the ball and spin up out of there. And I'm going back the other way. He might hit his head on the goalpost because remember, Ocho, decay with a blitz. And it ain't nothing back there.

It's moni, mano. But I think maybe he wasn't really thinking of that at that specific moment. He was more so concerned with securing the catch, you know. And obviously you want to make a play in that moment. But you have to have extreme confidence in not just, securing the catch, but understanding and already having it pre-plan what you're going to do when that blitz is coming. That already has to be in your head and ready to go. It's not like, oh, the ball's coming. Oh, shit, they blitzing. Okay, this is what I'm going to do. It already

got to be in your head. When you line up at a line of scrimmage and you know blitz is coming based on down the distance or what they're showing you defensively, that already has to be playing in your head. So it's second nature. When that ball comes out, you're already ready to do it. for the simple fact he's not impressed, I know he has to come for distance because at the lineup, he's already playing off because guess what? He don't want me to run by it.

So now once I take off, I already know he's driving over the top because he's trying to prevent me from getting the first down going out the front side. So I'm already thinking at three steps, I say if I get this ball, I'm coming back. I'm coming down the way. Come back underneath, yeah, yeah.

Automatically. For the simple fact, the way the defense is being played, and I know I'm not going to, going to beat him to the point because guess what I got to do, Ocho? I got to catch him, get the ball, and I got to turn up. So by the time I turn up, here he comes. And guess what happened? As soon as he turned up,

getting him, boom, he's down. And he's not a big receiver. So he's not going to break a whole lot of tackles, Ocho. He's only a buck 65. So it ain't like, that's not D.K. That's not A.J. That's not a Julio or one of these big receivers, a T.O. That's going to run through tackles.

In a situation like that, because it's bang, but you got, that's what I'm thinking. And knowing the situation, knowing where, knowing how the DB's playing, knowing the defense that they're in, man, they have zero coverage. Oh, I'm stopping. Yeah.

Unless he, as soon as I catch it, Ocho, unless he bangs me, as soon as I catch it, I'm wheeling up out of it. Get up out of there? I'm wheeling up out of it. But Ocho, I've been, that's tough. Ocho, you remember I've been saying this and I said,

Ocho, the son. going on with the Eagles. And I said, Ocho, we got to be careful because they're winning. We're glossing over some issues that they got. I say that back in can be had.

I said, what's happening is that, and what Dallas did a good job of tonight is that when they got in the red zone, they cast it in. I say, but that back in, I say, eat the fillet, oh, shout out you don't.

And see, that's the difference between what we do and fans. See, fans, all they care about Ocho is wins and losses. Losses, right. I'm trying to explain to you why they're winning or why they're losing and some pitfalls that might befall you if you're not careful.

Now, I've been trying to warn you, we're going to talk about the Kansas City Chief. I was the one that was worried from day one. And I told you, Ojo, I said, Ojo, I'm worried. But when I look at the Eagles, the mistake sometimes people make is that, man, they were really good last year. Well, they're going to be really good this year.

And the record, sometimes the record is not an indication of how well somebody's playing. Right, right. But if you can look at the Eagles and honestly to be untruthful to yourself, say this team is not identical, obviously because they've lost some pieces, lost some coordinators. But they're not playing close to what they were. I mean, they had a pretty good night running the football tonight. But don't you? There's not the same team.

They're not, I mean, right now, it's a, I got the 49ers here. I got the Cowboys here. And then you got the Eagles and the Lions and then whoever else you want to put in there. But right now, 49 is the cream of the clock. The cream of the crop. Yeah, most definitely. They look, listen, the 49s look strong as hell. I'm looking at them, and I'm trying to find a weak link.

Like you said, basically, the Eagles were 10 and 2, and you said they were winning, and people look at the wins and losses, but really not understanding and dissecting why they're winning in the holes that you can see that the casual fan can see. But the 49ers, man, we're not going to get off topic right now. God damn, they look good. They look really good. I think that, go ahead, Ocho.

I was going to say about the Eagles is that they're back in. And it started to alarming when I saw a Sam Howe throw for almost 400. Okay. So I'm like, hold on. That Sam Howe threw for almost 400 against that front line and with that back in, y'all got pro bowlers on the back end. How is that possible? And then I see Dak throw for 374.

And I see these guys throwing for a number of yards. I said, nah. Uh-uh, uh-uh, uh-uh. And now, Ocho, they can't run the football with the same conviction, so they can't keep opposing teams' offense off the field. Off the field, right. I mean, for one, for the commanders, and I will like to say this, based on the receiving court that the commanders do have with Terry McLaren,

Jahan, Dotson, they're not no goddamn slouches. They're not no sloppies. So I understand Sam Howard being able to throw over so many yards. But again, the front line for the Eagles, when the front front, when the front line for the Eagles does not dominate a game, you get the results that you got today. Listen, the Eagles defense the last few weeks have allowed 34 points, 42 points, and tonight, 33 points.

Why? Why? Because that front line has to dominate. They got to dominate. They have to find a way to put pressure and make the quarterbacks that they're playing against uncomfortable. And they have to be able to do that. What did the offense give you tonight?

They gave you 13. They gave you 19 last week And they got a little they got a lot of that in mop-up time Right So what do we see? Okay, you can't generate pressure up front with your front four Now your back end has already been compromised Because I don't think they're very good in coverage

And I don't think they tackle very well And so now and plus your offense can't match The opposing team's offensive output Boy, you're in trouble, Ocho. Right. You're in trouble unless you can force turnovers To take possessions away from the opposing team offense right it's going to be tough because Dallas I mean Dallas was really doing whatever they want to

but the key for the Dallas Cowboys is that number 87 that tied in Ferguson now I've been on his bad way I've been on a game I like the swag that he possessed I like he believed he that dude he believes it that that believes in it I love it he get up every time let him know yeah I got it and I don't get another way too yeah they're gonna come back to me on third down and you ain't going to be able to do nothing about it he had a huge he had a very big third down Very big down catch. And that could then split when he came back, when he came back underneath.

And the DB was right there draped on him, but he made, man, he was, he nice. And that could also be the difference maker, especially when it come playoff time. You want to key on CD-LAM and Gallup and Brandon Cooks. I'm not saying they will struggle, but I'm just saying if things aren't going that way, having that security blanket in Ferguson,

it'd be big for that. This is the Cowboys, fourth win by 20 or more points. this season, two more than any other team in the NFL. The Cowboys had four such wins under McCarthy in their first three seasons combined. This year, they already have four, what, five games to go or four games to go? With four games to go. So congratulations to the Cowboys. I have a question.

Go ahead. Before you go on. Yes. I know you're giving Dak as flowers. Yes. But is Dak Prescott, your MVP, as of right now? No. Did you see, you say we're going to talk about it?

You know what? We got to say that. Did you see what party did? Yeah. 368 on 19 completions. Yeah. He might have to have more. If Brandon Ayup didn't get stripped from the back

because Brandon and I, you might hit his head on the goal post. He got careless with the football. But I think, I think right now the quarterback. It's hard to me to argue with you. It's a hard with me to argue the fact after you just said Purdy. Okay.

Hey, there's a horse race. They're right here, Ocho. They're coming down the backststreet. They're coming down the backstress. Okay. The bills beat the chiefs twin into 17. and everybody's going up in arms about Ocho. How to hell Cadarious Tony line up a half a yard?

You can't even see the ball from the sideline. He's so far over the ball. And they mad at the official for calling it. But see, Ocho, and I told you this. I told you this earlier, Ocho, and you didn't want agreement. I say there's a reason why the Giants got rid of a first round pick, 22 games into his career. Because you know why?

Cadarious Tony is not going to get better because they keep making excuses. Instead of them saying he was wrong for lining up off sides, the official supposed to warn him. He's supposed to tell us. Well, actually, now you do know that as a receiver, as a former receiver that played for a while, if I'm covering the ball just a tad bit

and the official can't see it. If I don't check with him, the official will say, hey, hey, young fella, back up, back up, back up a little bit. Okay, the side judge is going to tell you that. That's what I meant. Tell the people. at home where you are when he's telling you that you're outside the numbers. He's not telling you that and that tight split the Cadillian Tony Hay.

Yeah, I forgot. They were in a bunch. They weren't a condensed. They weren't a condensed split. You're right. You're right. You're right. Hold on.

But what do you do? You look to the official. Yeah, I always check. I always check. I'm okay. He's going to tell you, back up a little bit, 85. Right. Okay.

He goes, or he's going to say, you good. But I have a question. I have a question. In that moment, though. In that moment, even as a referee, with a call of that magnitude, with the game on the line, do you really want to make that call to decide a game? Oh, Joe, he's off sides! I'm just, I'm just asking you, baby.

I'm just asking you. I just want to know, I just want to know how you felt. Last year, last year, that call, that play was called twice, only twice in an entirety of an entire season. This year, it's been called 11 times. I'm assuming maybe they're paying attention to it more often now. But for it to come down to that, when the Chiefs could have won the game to use to say, you know what we're going to call it? To me, it just, ugh. Ocho, you couldn't even see the ball. You're right.

You're right. You're right. You're right. I can't even argue the fact, though. Ocho, remember in the Super Bowl with Bradbury, Bradbury the fourth? Because they say, you can't make that call. Ocho, he held him. He even heard.

How would this have been? If Bradbury would have said after the game, they don't. make the call. He said, yeah, I held it. What do you go, what, what, what would have been saying? The man told you he held it. But see, the problem with Cadarius Tony, now how many times he's going to drop the ball? How many times he's going to fumble? How many times he's going to do these bonehead mistakes? And instead of trying, we're, they're trying to blame the official. Now, one person said Cadarious Tony was at fault because he lined his butt off upside. Right. We're blaming the officials. When he fumbled the ball, when he dropped passes, we make it.

excuses for him. And he's never going to get better because you keep making it. It's like a child. It's like a kid, Ocho. At some point in time, you know, the kid is bad. You blame the teacher or you blame the principal. You blame everybody except what a blame's supposed to be placed. Blame Cadarious Tony. He's a receiver. Yeah, he's a receiver. In defense of him, I, for me, I like Adairis Tony. He's made some mistakes. He drops in balls. But I understand in order for the chief to get back to where they want to get to. We're going to need Cadarious Tony to show up and be the Cadarious Tony. We're used to see. And listen, listen to me, stay with me, baby. The flashes that we've seen from him when he was with the Giants. The flashes that we've seen from him last year when he could

be electric with the football. We need that consistently. MvS. We need MvS to step up. We need them to be able to help Patrick home be the Super Bowl two-time winning Super Bowl quarterback that we're used to see in and order for him to get where they want to. And you talk about Lombardi and playoffs and all that, until. they step up and play to the caliber that they can be playing like, it's not, it's not going to happen. But I don't want to,

I don't want to, I don't want to harp on Godarius and blame him for the loss. Because in order for him to get to the motherfucking chip on what they're trying to get to, we need Cadarious Tony to be who he is from the K all the way to the goddamn T. Hold on. Give me, Oh, cho, but you don't notice something?

Now they scored 17 points. Yeah. Remember now, the fact about it, they got 17. How much they got 19, how much they got? how much they get in a couple of weeks? You got it up here? Hold on. Okay.

Today they scored 17. In week 13 and lost to the Packers, they had 19. 19, yeah. Week 12, they scored 31 against the Raiders. But the Raiders scored zero points and they lost the game three nothing today. In week 11, they had 17 points. In week 9, they had 21 points, but they got shit out in the second half. In week 8, they had nine points.

You see, Ocho, what's happening? It's getting harder for them to score points. Yeah, yeah. The one thing that we could always count on, Patrick Mahomes at home, oh, you got to put up 28 to 30 to beat them. Yeah. And we keep saying, oh, we need these guys. But hold on, we did the scene down there over.

When are they going to show the consistency that you say they need to show when you haven't seen it all year? Yeah, I know. We haven't seen it all year, but you know what it comes down to, right? You know what it comes down to. When it actually matters, when it actually matters and when it actually counts, you're going to have to make the plays. You're going to have to.

I'm just saying what they got to do, in order to get back and be in contention, especially when playoff time come, the fellas are going to have to step up. You make the mistakes now. I rather, Cadarious Tony, make the motherfucker mistake right now and learn from it, and then understand they go back to the drawing board during the week

and have that talk with motherfucker of my homes. Like, man, listen, if we are going to play, if we're going to go into games, then they're going to scheme and ways to stop Travis Kelsey, you got to make the plays for me. Patrick Mahomes need to go to Good Darius and say, I need to be able to trust you. I have to be able to count on you because when we go into this game, whatever game may be, whoever we might play down the road, they're going to count or lock in on Travis Kelsey.

I need you to play for me. I need you to be there for me. But, Ocho, you keep saying we're trying to get these mistakes out of the way. Yeah, we're in week 13, Ocho. And he's still making the same bonehead mistakes. He's still doing the same thing, dropping passes, fumbling the ball, and doing this. So when is that going to get out of the system? I can't say when it's going to get out of the system.

But it's here's a game of football. And you want to play to perfection as much as possible. That's why you practice. You practice it week in and week out. And you get out there on Sundays. It was the results. You wanted to go exactly how they draw it up, you know, as far as the game playing the concern. But sometimes it don't go like that.

Sometimes it don't. It's like when someone steals a car. Yes, sir. And instead of we getting mad at the person that's the person that stole the car, we blame the police for chasing them. See, you get the same thing. That ain't a good word. You didn't blame the officials and say, why you called that in that situation.

I know, I was saying just because I don't want to leave the game in the official's hands. I don't like that. I don't know. That's your question. If he lines up, if he's not lined up off sides, how's the game in the official hand? He put the game in the official hand by his alignment. Right, right, right, right. I said he was that fault now.

I say it was that fault. But I'm just saying, I just wish it hadn't to come down to the officials being the one. He robbed us on the player the year. He robbed us for that, Ocho. He took that away from us. Imagine Travis Kelsey Highlight tape when he goes into the Hall of Fame. That's number one. And he had a game winning catch in the division of the playoffs.

The overtime catch, he's had some tremendous catchers, the one against the charges in overtime game winning catches he goes 40, 50 yards for a touchdown. That would have been the play of Travis Kelsey's career. And he robbed us with that. He did that. Not the official. He did it. Yeah.

That's crazy. That's crazy. Regarding Andy Reed's comment, referee, Carl Chephyr said that if a coach and receiver looks for a line with advice, official will give it to them. But ultimately, they already, they already. They are responsible for wherever they line up. If you look to me, hey, am I good?

My line are good? Yeah. You good, you good, 84. Yes, so. Okay. No, back up a little bit. Back up a little bit, 84, back up a little bit. Okay.

If you look, because if I give you advice on you, I'm not supposed to be doing that. I'm supposed to remain mom. I ain't supposed to say nothing unless you ask. Right. Okay. So we would give them some sort of warning if it was anywhere close,

but in this particular, it's beyond the warning. And they have, hey, 84, be careful. Now you leave it a little quick now. Sit in there a little long. Remember, I told you, I hear, I ain't waiting to the tongue. Ocho, I would go.

Ocho, remember, I told you, I'm gone. Yeah, out of it now. 84, slowed out a little bit. Now, you leave it a little quick. Okay. But, I mean, I don't know, Ocho. Because here's the thing.

Kansas City has never, Kansas City has never played a playoff game outside of Arrowhead. Yeah. And Patrick Mahomes' career, never, ever played outside of Arrowhead. Every divisional game, every wildcard game, every game has been played in their building. Yeah. You know, you think that would make a difference? I think, if I'm not mistaken, if I'm not mistaken, I think Josh Allen is three or one against

Mahomes in a regular season. but when it matters most, which is the playoffs. I think Mahomes is undefeated, you know, against brother Josh Allen. But where has those games taking place in the playoffs? At home. And error here. I have a question.

Do you really think the 12th man really matters that much, especially the game of that magnitude, do you think? Why you think they fight so hard to get it if it didn't matter? Right. Especially in football, because the crowd knows, and I understand people go on the silent count now. Silent count, right, right. And still, if I get two false starts, and it depends on when I get them.

Right. I get my guy up because all of a sudden, that guy, the offensive lineman is looking inside. He has to be looking just a slightly inside to see the ball at the snap of his eye. I'm a defensive lineman. That's a Vaughn Miller. That's a Miles Garrett. That's a T.J. Watt. You know, they don't need but half a step.

At all, yeah. Oh, yeah. They get a half a step. They're going to get skinny. Mm-hmm. And boom, your quarterback in the back. Yeah. It definitely matters for them.

If this was the old Kansas City offense, I would agree with you also. It wouldn't matter. But now they really need it. Because, Ocho, they're struggling at home. Yeah. They're struggling at home. Yeah. You said it when we talked before that as great as Patrick Mahom is,

unless the receivers play up the par, he won't be able to overcome that. He won't be able to overcome them playing. subpar as this is what they're what they're doing right now. Yes. You're absolutely right. Because if you look at it early in the ball game, he was completing passes.

He pirouetting. He faked and he's parted it and throided sidearm. Ocho, that's great for highlight. But you're not winning consistently having to do all of that. Right. You're not. You're not. And it just becomes,

and then all of a sudden it puts more pressure on him because he feels he has to be perfect. He got to do more. He got to do more. when he should be doing less and they should be doing more. Or they should do their part and let him do his part. But because they're not doing their part, he's feeling that he has to do more.

Yes. And that's the last thing. Quentin Hector donated $10. Ocho, simply put, please hold these professional accountants instead of playing devil's advocate every time. Tony is not doing what he needs to do. He needs your honesty, not your empathy.

I was honest. I said he messed up. I said up all. I did say that. I said it. You know, I got, we got you around to it. We got you around to it. Yeah, you got me around to it.

The funny thing about it, he told me, I shouldn't empathize with him. Shit, I remember lining up all sides too. Same way, covering the goddamn ball. They called me a goddamn touchdown because of my, my black ass. Hey, I did this, oh, Cho, I did the say, we played Minnesota. And the guy was, this was, had to be 93. And so normally I lined up on the ball, line up on the ball. I always lined up on the ball.

And the receiver was lined up on the ball. I should have just, I should have just left it alone. Right. But I motioned him to come back. And when I went to step forward, John snapped it. They threw me like a little end route. I went 75 yards. They tackled me at like the eighth.

They brought it all the way back. Brought it back. They brought it back. They brought it back. I know you were mad. I couldn't be mad to nobody but myself. Myself, yeah. Because all I had to do was stay my black ass still.

He was fine. It wasn't like the play couldn't go off if I was, if I was off the ball and he was on the ball. Right, right. We were going to run the same route regardless. No, read no matter what, yeah. But you know what? That's how I did. Ocho, Faith donated $100.

Oh, Joe. Damn. Is that fake? Faith Evans? No, I don't know who this faith is, but she got this smoke for you. She said, Ocho, you gave more heat for choosing dogs over people. This season, Kansas City has more drops than a group of geriatrics, sperm donors and fertility clinic. And you gave him grace, wire receivers that need heat too. We're rooting for you, bro.

Still, team dogs. Yeah. Hey, listen. Cadar is Tony going to be all right, man. I've seen the flashes. I mean, everybody in this chat that's watching, we've seen what Cadarius Tony can do. I know once that confidence sets in,

I know what you get. He made mistakes. He dropped balls. He had a bone hair play today, and we could say it costs his team his game. We know that. Who know? We know that.

We don't know if Buffalo would have come down the field and scored in our Ocho, but it definitely cost him to play. This was the player the year. This was about to be the play thus far. Now, somebody else might come and do something, and they have seven laterals, and it goes for a touchdown and then win the game.

But this was about thus far, this was going to be the player of the year, because I didn't see this coming. Right. And normally at this stage of the game, you're not even thinking like that, Ocho. No, no, not at all. Not at all.

I'd have never thought, man, I'd have been too afraid because, man, because just by look, I throw it to somebody and they bobble it. They drop it. Might go look at me, might go look at me wanting to strangle me because he's saying, you shouldn't have threw it to it.

You know what I do think? I do think as much as everyone, even tomorrow, are going to be up in arms about the play, about the off sides, I think that receiving corps is going to come through when it counts most, and that's the playoffs. I look at the Chiefs remaining schedule. They got the Patriots. I'm counting that as a win, and I mean no disrespect by that.

They have the Raiders after that. I'm counting that as a win as well. They have my Bengals. Well, the Bengals are winning that, even with Jake Browning back there. They got the charges. The charges, I'm not sure what's going on with them. Well, they lost, what you call them?

Fractious Index finger, Justin Herbert. And so they had to go to Eastern Stick. Easton Stick. So that's three wins as before. I just, I just, I just, I just, I just named. They ain't beating the bagel. But they're probably going to be the Patriots. They're probably going to beat the Raiders.

And they're probably going to be the Chargers. Okay. So there we go. That's four games. That's four games of consent. where the receivers themselves can build confidence, and I think they're going to be a right come playoff time where it really matters.

Get all the goddamn, get all the motherfucking mistakes out right now where you can. Get them all out. Cadarius, Tony, I know you're going to see this. I know what you can do, boy. I know what you can do. Tighten up. Tighten up. And sometimes you voice that anger at the officials

so you don't put him further in the tank than he already is. Yeah. Because he's feeling bad because you saw him. He put the coat on and he tried to hide. But the CBS cameras kept finding. Right on me. No matter where he went. They kept finding wherever, wherever.

It's just like anything. It's just like when you get a holding call or you, you drop, you drop a plate. Yeah. Camera's going to find you. And you know, you know, you know, you know, make it even worse though. Is when you, when you get a penalty, right, the worst, the worst, excuse me, the worst thing that they do, off as the holding. number

God damn, ref I don't need you to put me on blast like that so it makes it even worse so understanding how he feels in that manner, in that moment and then thinking about well, God damn, this is probably the play that

with a one-in-st-game, he already feeling bad, man. Feeling bad, bro. And I understand. I understand Patrick McHoll's frustrations obviously not leaving the game in the ref's hands even though Cadarious was offside.

I know it was off sides. I know he was. I know he covered the ball, but I'm just saying it sucks. It sucks. The 49ers beat the Seahawks, beat the division rival Seahawks. The 49ers won their fifth straight game.

Brock Purdy, 368 yards on only 19 completions. Krista McAfrey took the first play of the game, 72-yard run. He finished 145 yards on 16 attempts. Debo Samuels, over 149 yards. Brandon Ayyuk had 120 plus. George Kittle had, I think he had three catches for like 60 yards. Debo, Brandon Ayup, and George Kittle each had a play for over 40 yards.

D.K. Metcalfe and Dameduah were both ejected in the ball game. But the 49ers offensively because Kyle Shanahan, he calls the game. And they put so much stress on you horizontally, horizontally and vertical. So they'll go side to side, and they don't have a problem because the guys are so tremendous running for the catch.

You look at, they're just trying to get the ball. And I love what Cal did today. They threw a little quick route to Debo. Debo ran it down. He thought he had a touchdown. They stopped the one yard line. They put him in a tight four mission.

Hand it to him. Now, you go get that, bro. You got, you got, you got, hey, I ain't let nobody get your. Let let you say. Hey, nah, no, I ain't let nobody get your honey. You go, go on and finish it off now. You don't, hey, you don't brought the flower

with the chocolate and got a nice move. Hey, you got to seal the deal at the end of the night. Yeah. Brad and I, you're 126 yards. Kieldo had a big catch. Debo was sensational.

Christian McCaffrey is sensational. Offensive line did a great job of Purdy, and Purdy did a phenomenal job of throwing the football. He was sensational today, Ocho. And yet, he and that, I think, for the quarterbacks, I mean, really,

it really is like when you really get down to it, it's kind of going to be like, I think it's going to be four guys. I think it's going to be that. Purdy, CMAQ, and Tyreek. CMAQ, okay, I like that. I like the fact that we have Tyreek in the competition now, even though when you think about MVP,

for some reason it's always a quarterback. It's a quarterback. It's a quarterback. Unless a quarterback rush for 2,500 yards, or have an LT type where he scores 30 touchdowns. Right, right, right, right. Now, you know, because when LT, LT had like 1,800 yards and 31 touchdown.

Yeah, I remember that season. Okay, yeah. Now, but 15, 16, 100, because these quarterback throwing for 4,500, and 40 touchdowns, 5,000. It's just, it's just because they've geared it. It's kind of like an NCAA, the Hidesman. It just, they normally, now, look, we've had outliers, DeBonte Smith, just a couple of years ago. But he had one of the great statistical receiving seasons in college history. But talk about the 49ers and what you like from them offensive and defensive.

Listen, listen, defensively, we know what you get. You know what you get with Fred Warner, Dravidius Ward and those boys. Even though he went out

Ward went out early with a groin injury. But I just want to talk about the goddamn offense. I've seen, let me ask you a question before I talk about Purdy. I'm going to get to Purdy.

What do you think when we think about the greatest show on turf that offense they had? Yeah. Isaac Bruce, Torrey Holt, Kurt Warner,

Marshall. Hockey. I see. O'Hazir, Ricky, Rookie. How do you compare that to the 49ers? Is there any type of comparison, even though it's a little different, you know, where the offenses are run,

even though the play style that obscure receivers are a little bit different? Well, Big Game was looking to take the top off it. He and Ozahir, Akeem was great. You know, the Miller, you know, throw the jail brake screen because he was such a great punt returner, get the ball in his hand, space. Ricky Pro was that possession receiver. Marshal Falk could do a little bit of everything. Kind of like Christian McCaffrey, line him up out wide, put him in the slot, hand it to him,

pitch it to him, throw it to him, and he could get you. Yes. So they're very similar. You look at Kurt Warner was an undrafted free agent. Brock Purdy was Mr. Irrelevant. The last pick selected in the NFL draft. Nobody kind of expected anything out of those guys. Both got their job because the starting quarterback got hurt and never looked back. But, yeah, the thing that they're doing is that the big play potential. Debo is looking to hit his head on the goalpost

every freaking time. He catches the football. Whether you hand it to him or you throw it to him. Christian McCaffrey the same way. Brandon I.U., he's getting better and better and kiddle. He can block like a lineman. He can catch like a tight end. I mean, catch like a wide receiver.

He's tremendous run. for the catch. Offensive line does a great job and you already know if you run to the left side behind Big Trent and you're getting you getting some eight yards of dollars. Every time, every time. Got damn Purdy man has seven straight games completing 70% or more of his passes. The funny thing about it, the last player complete 70% of more of their passes in eight straight games was goddamn Joe Montana. Joe Montana. Joe Montana and I just I just want to play devil's advocate for a little bit. Do we still, if we take, there's 31 other teams. Yeah. If you take Purdy off of the 49ers with the supporting cast that he has,

can he still put up the same type of production? I'm just asking the question. And somewhere else, no, no, no, no. I don't think he can because I don't look at him as a guy that can perform outside of the system. Okay. Some guys can perform outside of this system. I think he's perfect because here's the thing which you have to understand, the Ocho. is that Kyle is, look, I play for Kyle's dad. Kyle is a chip off his old block. He's not an easy guy to play for.

And he coaches hard. A lot of, a lot of quarterbacks don't get coached hard because, you know, we can't, you know, you can't chastise them in front of the group. Normally they go into the meeting and they meet one-on-one, the coordinator of the head coach. But that's not how Kyle. Kyle will let you know if you F up,

he's going to tell you because that's what that's how Mike was. But I think you can't knock what he's doing because, yes, a lot of, I mean, Debo is putting the ball on the money. That one he threw the Debo, I don't know what Jamal Adams was doing. Bro, why would you stop your feet and you 15 yards deep? Yeah. Why would you do that? What are you looking for? I think he might have thought, I thought he, give me if I'm wrong, he might have thought he was going, going to the,

corner flat, like rounding it off. And he just kept going to the corner. Yeah, he kept it high. That's what I'm thinking. Yeah, he kept it high instead. But you know why I kept it high? Because you stuck because you, your feet were planting in the cement. So guess what?

Guessing? guessing. Guessing. You're exactly right. He gets wrong. But here's the thing. My coach, Les Deccal, who's my position coach in 93, he says, son, if you hesitate you beat.

Mm-hmm. Every time. You got to take it. All the take is a split second now. Oh, show you got to go somewhere in a hurry. If he who hesitate is beat in that sport. Now, baseball, I understand baseball, but I do understand this. If you hesitate in the game of football, you will get beat.

Yeah. Because you have to understand why you're hesitating, that guy's moving. Yeah. He's moving. You got to keep your feet alive. You got to stay alive. You got to stay alive. You got to stay alive.

But Purdy has been, look, since they got them dogs back, since Debo came back, since Tristan McCaffrey has been healthy. Healthy. Big Trent, T. Dub, has been back. They've gone to another level. And they can, at the drop of a hat, three, four positions in a row, they got 28. 28, easy. So I'm looking at the remaining schedule, right?

And I'm not, I don't want to sit here in Crown. You know what? they're going to win the Super Bowl, blah, blah, blah. I believe they'll be the number one seed. I know what you're going with this because you look, I think they got Arizona, they got, I think they got Arizona, they got, Ravens, commanders, Rams. Yes.

They could, they could sweep that. I'm looking from. They got the Ravens on Christmas. You know, Christmas on Monday. They got the Ravens on Christmas. That's going to be a good one. I'm looking at from a defense, defensive perspective. Do the Ravens have the personnel to match up with what the 49ers do?

it's going to be tough because I don't exactly that's the problem because do offensively can they continue to put out the output that can the Ravens continue to put out the output and match the 49ers score for score they're going to have to um the thing but my concern is is that if you can't if you don't pressure purdy you can't beat the 49ers right you got to pressure you got to you got to make him you got to you got a pressure get him the spot. Yeah. You got to. You got to. But Kyle does a great job of rolling him, have rolling him, booting him, misdirection. They changes. They change, you know, there are a bunch formation and guys dispersed and they go a lot of different directions.

They'll give you the same look from a different formation. And they, they, he constantly keeps you guessing. Right. Without, without, without the assistance of turnovers, and you know, turnovers are the great equalizer. Because if you're better than a team and you turn the ball lower, you go down to their level or you bring them up to, your level. Whatever the case may be, you make yourself equal to them. I just don't see Ocho without

the assistance of maybe three turnovers on a game. Or your team, the opposing team quarterback plays the game of his life. It's just hard for me to see a scenario, especially in the regular season of a team beating them. Now, I'm anxious to see that game, that Monday

night, that's going to tell us a lot, that Christmas game, the Ravens, because the Ravers right now in the Cadbird seat, they own their number one, they have controlled their destiny. They can be the number one seat. I think they're going to have to win out in order to be the number one seat to 49ers.

But they're the only team that I don't care where they play. They can go back to Philly. They can go to Dallas. And I still, I believe they would be favored to win. Yeah. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal, but encouraged. It's the enhanced games.

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available on the I-Hart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, wherever you get your podcasts. Let's talk about D.K. D.K. and D.K. and D.K. and D.K. ejected late. D.K. picked up Fred Warner, slam him into the term after he had lattered the ball. Yeah. He didn't know he laddered, though. He thought Fred still had the ball. Right. Then Fred pushed D.K. from behind before the ride to the wide receiver jumps up,

grabs Fred by his face mask, give him a little sure. Like, bro, who you think you're talking to it? And then shoved it. And then Lenore get involved into the ensued scumple. Fred said he told D.K. You tackled really well before the altercation. For some reason he didn't like that. I guess what happened happened? It's unfortunate, but he got to learn to keep his composure. And we've seen D.K. get a couple of these this season.

I think this is his third or fourth one this season, unsports him like conduct. Yeah. What's your takeaway? I mean, he's frustrated. Emotions getting the best of them, not having this type of game. You want to have, especially with what you just did again. against the Cowboys not too long ago. You weren't able to get off the same way.

Team is losing. You're frustrated. You emotional. So I get it, but you can't do that. You can't do that. You can't hurt your team. Obviously, they need you out there on the field, especially Gino being out.

Right. Gino being out. So you got to be on the field to help your team and at least do your best to wield them to a win, even though the chance to beat the 49ers today, it was slim than none, but at least be on the field to contribute. Right. Zach Wilson had his best game with the season.

Who? Who? Who? Zach Wilson! Say it loud and proud. 30 to 6. Jet snap a five-game losing streak after a various movie start in which there had 11 consecutive points the first scoreless half,

first half, since 2019. But the Jets found a rhythm and scored 30 points in the second half. The most points they've scored in the game since scoring 31 against the Broncos in week five. Zach Wilson. 27 to 36, 301, two touchdown. CJ Stroud,

exit the ball game late in the fourth quarter after taking a hit from Big Quinny, Queen Williams. Talk about what did you like from the Jets today? From the Jets today, I just want to say,

I like to thank the Jets' Offens of the Line. I like to thank the Jets' Offens of Coordinator. I'm not sure what his, what his name is. I apologize for not knowing. Nathaniel Hackett.

Nathaniel Hackett, I love you, Nathaniel Hackett. I love you. I'm not sure what plays you called today, but that's the Zach Wilson I'm used to seeing. That's the Zach Wilson. You ain't know that, Zach Wilson. Hey, hey, stay with me, baby. That's the Zach Wilson. We can see week in and week out with that type of play calling.

Garrett Wilson, I love you. Alan Azard, I love you. Randall Cobb, that's what I'm talking about. This is what the Jets can be week in and week. out. This is what we can do. And I'm saying we, because I'm riding the Zach Wilson train since he left motherfucking BYU and I ain't getting the fuck off. God damn, that shit felt good today because I was ready for this. So this is Zach Wilson, huh? That's Zach. Today is what you, today what you saw today? That's Zach Wilson. So let me get this. So the other, the other Zach Wilson

we've been seeing, that's his representative. No, that's Zach Wilson, where the play calling isn't up the par, where things aren't going well. You see what you do? You see what you do? You see what you did? When he plays well, it's Zach Wilson. When he doesn't play well, it's the play calling.

Now, which is it? Sometimes, sometimes things don't go well. Sometimes. Sometimes. Sometimes. That's not what you say it. That's not what you said. I'm telling you why Zach Wilson played well today, because the play calling was up to par.

So when he doesn't. play well, the pay calling is not up to par. So, yes, that's the reason. So in other words, you're excusing Zach Wilson's play because there has to be someone else when he doesn't play well. Well, Zach Wilson is, Zach Wilson can't overcome bad play calling. He can't overcome that. Can a bad, can a good play caller overcome Zach Wilson?

Again, you have a- I have a question. I have a question. Go ahead. Let me ask you. Let me ask you. Yes. Is Nathaniel Hackett known for being in. an elite play caller like an Eric B. Enemy or Andy Reed?

No. Is he known? Say it again? Is he? Is he known? Is that Wilson known to be elite quarterback? Is he Jordan Love? Is he C.J.

Stroud? Did you? Is he Jordan Love? Is he C.J. Stroud? I just ask you a question. I want to stay on topic. I ask you a question.

How are you going to answer a question with a question? You never answer the first question. No. But what you do is that you blame everybody else. When your guy plays. I didn't blame nobody. I didn't blame anybody. I just told you why the Jets

looked the way they did and why why my guy, Zach Wilson, was 27 for 36 for 301 and two TDs. That's what I just told you. All I said, but what you said is that you said, this is the Zach Wilson we can expect when we get to play calling. So I'm saying, so when Zach Wilson

played bad, it's Nathaniel Hackett's fault. When he plays good, you just said it was Zach Wilson. You didn't give Nathaniel Hackett no credit. You gave the credit to Zach Wilson. Because, wait a minute. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Who's on the field?

Who's on the field? Who's on the field? Who's on the field? Excuting the plays at a call from Nathaniel Hacking. He was on the field when he was looking like what the elephant left on the showground too. But you didn't mention that. Wait, hold on, hold on, hold on,

what the elephant left on the showground. You tell me what he ate after eating all them penis and hate. What do you leave on the showground? Yeah, that's what he left. That's what Zach Wilson was playing like. Let's stay on the positive. Let's stay on the positive. The Jets, the Jets is Zach Wilson

played good fucking football and as a Jets fan, I'm a Jets fan. Actually, no, I'm a Zach Wilson fan. I'm happy for the young fella and today's game is going to build him great confidence builder. You said that when they played the Broncos. You said that when they beat Philly.

Great confidence builder. You said that when they beat Philly. Who did Jets play next? Who did Jets play next? I'm just saying. Okay, who did Jets play next? Somebody asked somebody, who does Jets play next? Ash pulling it up. Who does just play next?

I'm telling you it's going to carry over into next week, offensively. Well, it's something about having a game like this. Having a game like this when everybody had been in your head, when they bench you last week for goddamn Trevor Simeon. They played the Dolphins. They played the Dolphins. Oh, shit, they played the Dolphys. Yeah.

For real? Why to change your tone? If Zach Wilson is what you said, who they put. plate does not matter. Right. Right. But you, no, no, no, no, no, no, I need, no, I need you to have the barbado that you just had two minutes ago. Hey, I still got the bravado, but I'm from, you know, I'm from Liberty City.

You know, I'm from Miami. No, you got nothing to do with it. No, you ride with, you, so you ain't ride with Zach no more. I'm a Dolphins fan, that. You know, I'm a Dolphian fan first. I would listen, wait, stay with me. Stay with me real quick, baby. Listen, I was born at, listen, let me finish.

I were born at Jackson Memorial Hospital right near Overtown at 308 on January 9, 1968. So I am a dolphin fan at heart. He should call it, okay, you're a Dolphins fan. Right. But, see, I didn't know, I didn't know the Jets was playing the dolphins. It does not matter. Jack Wilson for to have a game, though. He can have a game.

Okay. He can have a game. Okay. He can have a game. So with Jay Ram and David Howard, okay. Okay. We got, we got, we got, I can counter that with, with Alan Lazard, Randall, Randall,

and Garrett Wilson. What's happening? But you talk about the Alan Lazard that was a healthy stretch? That was hard. Oh, that was three weeks ago. You still on that? You still on the past? You still on the past?

Let's make a healthy bet. Let's make a healthy bet. What? What you want to do? Make a lot of these things. No. $100. $100.

So what's that? Listen, I don't want to bet. I don't want to bet Dolphins Jets because I'm a dolphin's fan. I bet Zach. I would say you took it right at my mouth. Let's bet Zach numbers. Okay, go to bet it. Okay. Well, he's going to have another...

What's the number? Let's bet he have another 300-yard game. Okay, bet. No, I bet. I bet. Okay, well, we got a shake. Give me a virtual shake. Yeah, $100.

Is that he can have another 300-yard game? But, Ocho, you got to stop. Ocho. What did I do? Ocho, you got to stop that. You can't say when a guy plays good is him. And when a guy plays bad, it's somebody else's fault. You can't do that.

Okay, okay. All right, it was Zach Wilson's fault when he played bad. Okay. Is that better? No, we're going to move on because I think we just should move off. And, uh, who with the Ravens. I know you're going to see this, Zach. I know Zach probably watching.

Zach, I know you watching. Baby, I love you, baby. Keep that shit up. That's what I'm talking about, baby. Let's go. The Ravens win a thriller in overtime 37-31. That was crazy. Wallace walks it off with a 76-yard pump return

with just, just over a minute to play in the fourth quarter. Hold on. Lamar hit Zay Flowers for the go-ahead touchdown. The two-point conversion was good. But the Rams led by Matthew Stafford, drive down the field, get a game-tying field goal. Both teams have the ball at least once in the overtime. The Rams putting the ball off. And here's what Tyler, Taylor, Taylor, Taylor, the Thailand.

Tyler Wallace. Takes it 76 yard. Matthew Stafford and Lamar was going head-to-head. Lamar Jackson, 316 yards, 3 touchdowns, 70 yards rushing. Matthew Stafford, 294, 3 touchdowns. I thought Lamar played extremely well. He had, I think that was Bateman. If he didn't over underthrow that ball and let Witherspoon.

Right. Get his hand on it? I think that. But I thought Lamar threw the ball exceptional today. I thought he was in complete command. He was decisive. He threw the ball with conviction. And when it wasn't there, he took off.

There was no indecision whatsoever with Lamar Jackson. He looked sensational today. OBJ is starting to look like the OBJ that we remember, 97 yards on four catchers, highlighted by a 46-yard touchdown, catch, roll into the end zone. What did you like? What did you like from what you saw from the Ravens? Listen, not from the Ravens. I like what I saw from Lamar Jackson because as Lamar Jackson goes,

that Ravens' offense and team is going to go. I like the fact that Lamar Jackson has become. a pocket passer. I'm not running. I'm not looking to run unless I have to. Lamar Jackson is dropping back, processing, reading one, two, and three. Okay, one, two, and three is not there. Then I'll go and run. Then I'll take off. Zay Flowers, O'Dell, Bateman are doing everything they can. Lively to get open and to be available for him at all times. Yes. The Raven defense is so goddamn good.

So goddamn good. Today, obviously, you're playing a juggernaut of an offense with Cooper Cup, Stafford, hook and a kooka, that can move the ball up and down. William's running the football. Actually, yeah, running the ball. And they started off the game. The Rams started off the game, goddamn running the ball and gassing it. But is that going to be able to happen consistently over and over?

You fix the issues with that. But that offense, as fucking Lamar Jackson goes, they go. Obviously, when you think about the Ravens, obviously their identity most of the time but throughout the years has always been the defense. Obviously, having someone as dynamic as Lamar Jackson, some would say offensively, it would be them. But with Lamar playing like he played the day with them right now being the number one seed, the AFC, if I'm not mistaken, right?

Yeah. Yeah. No, Lamar, Lamar them the number one seat. That's what I said. No one's a lot of the NFC. Yes. Yeah, listen, as much as it pains me to say this, they can go far.

Oh, yeah. They can go far. Yes. Yes. Odell four catches, 97 yards, 46-yard touchdown against his former team. He showed them to love at the beginning of the game, dapped everybody up. I'm sure it was great to see him and competing against those guys

because, you know, he did win a Super Bowl. I thought he was on his way to having an unbelievable day had he not suffered that injury, missed all of last year. But now it's taking him a while, but the last three weeks, he's shown you that he's back to bid Odell and they're giving him opportunities. And it's never a good thing.

But I think to Mark Andrews, it forced Lamar to have belief in other players. Because, you know, he always had Mark Andrews in his back pocket. I could always go to 89. I can always find 89. But now he has to rely on lively. He has to rely on Bateman. He has to rely on Zay Flowers.

He has to rely on Odell. And it's forced him, and he's spreading the ball around, and he has the utmost confidence without his security blanket. So I ain't got no choice. I'm going to find me a new security blanket. So the first one of y'all get open,

y'all are my security blanket. And then the funny thing about it, with Mark Andrews not being out and everyone actually being able to be not, what's the word looking for? not only are they making themselves available, they're making the plays. They're making the plays.

The goddamn Ravens are scoring 30 points or more a game, the past six or seven games. 30 points. Yeah. Through the air. Yeah. As long as the only thing, Ocho, it's just take care of the football.

Yeah, yeah. Just take care of football. Total turnovers will hurt you. That's the time. Congratulations to the Ravens. Lamar Jackson say, don't count me out for that MVP just yet either now. I might have something. I might have something to say about that.

Looking at, I think the Cowboys, they got the Dolphins and the bills on their schedule. And I think, I think, pretty. We've got the 49ers coming up too now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But Arizona and, you know, I don't know about them. Arizona, Arizona messed up the Cowboys out the blue. I call them trap games. Yeah.

Tribe games. You have a game like that. Look at the goddamn bear. The Bears beat the Lions today. The Lions been playing goddamn great football all season long. And it's a division. And it's a division. The Lions and Bears are a division opponent.

Yeah. Yeah. So it's crazy. It's just one of those things you just never know. Yep. Joe Flacco leads Cleveland over Jacksonville, 3127. Joe Flacco helped the Brown stand the AMC playoff mix with an 8-5 record.

He threw for 311 yards, 26 of 45, three touchdowns, one of a deception. He's the fourth quarterback to start a game for the Browns this year. Deshaun started one, PJ Walker, DTR, Dorian, Thompson, Robinson. But, and after the game, Kevin Stefanski named Joe Flacco, the starter for the rest of the season. What did you like? The one thing, look, he ain't mobile.

He ain't ever going to be mobile. Straight pocket. The Statue of Liberty has moved more than Joe Flacco. But I tell you what, he got a big arm. He could throw the ball through the eye of a hurricane. And there's not an area on the field that he can't reach. And he got great ride runner and Mari Cooper and Joku. Played really, played really well today.

They can run the ball with Ford and a Kareem Hunt. Offensive line is solid. They might be in the mix. And we know that defense. We know that defense can get out for your quarterback and they can pick you off. So what would you like from the Brown today? Listen, the fact, forget, the Browns, the defense is going to be what they do. But goddamn flacco, obviously, when it's 100 career game today at 38 years old, coming off the street.

It's counting on the couch. Coming off the couch at 38 years old. Super Bowl winning quarterback, might I add, 26 and 45, like you said, 311 yards. That means if you can do that off the couch and win a game, Like he did the day. Shit. The goddamn, are they in contention? The Browns is in tension.

They're definitely, they're smack down in the playoff contention. After a little bit. There'll be a wild card, though. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because they're in the division with the Ravens. There are two games behind the Ravens. So that's a team that when I think about it,

that's a team that you wouldn't want to play. You wouldn't want to play a team like the goddamn Browns going into the playoffs. If you get them as a wild card, with a quarterback that knows how to win in the postseason. Oh, yeah. So why not? So why not?

Postseason Joe Flacco different now. Yeah. He's different. Exactly. That man, he's gone on the road and beat Peyton. He's going on the road to beat Joe Flacco. He's going on the road water soon. Hey, well, hey, in the regular season, he's so-so.

Yeah, yeah, you don't know what you get. But in the post-season, Joe Flacco will bust your head. Yeah. And then he has his supporting cast around him to get the job done. Oh, yeah. We got 32,000 in the chat watching us live right now. Wait, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, 32,000 people?

30, 32,000. We tried to get the fault. We tried to get the fault and then 50. And that's a lot of people, man. That's a lot of people. That's a lot of people. Because we get them good content. Oh, man, listen, we, we didn't even got to the good content yet.

We just talking football. We didn't even get to the good content yet. The story's coming. Oh, the stuff, man. Man, they're talking about Ocho. He's slaying. to get a queen. I said, what are you dead night?

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all your people. Yeah. Like, like Ernest, like the Professor Klump. He said, no, no, mom ain't nothing going on.

That's a colleague. Yeah. Collie. The Broncos beat the charges. The Broncos are not seven and six. One game behind the chiefs for first place in the FACS west. The Broncos defense piled up six sacks,

added two takeaways, and did not allow third down conversion on 12, on 12 tries. Collin Sutton continued his career best season with a one-handed, 46-yard touchdown catch from Russell Wilson in the third quarter and essentially put the game away. Sutton has, Ocho, check this out. Corlin Sutton has 10 touchdown catches this season,

which is the most by Bronco receivers says, Bebe, DeMarius Thomas, Rest Your So, DT, called 11 in 2014. Russ finished 21 of 33, 224, two touchdown and one of a session. Justin Herbert, as I mentioned at the top, fractured his index finger in the second quarter did not return. Russell Wilson is him. Am I allowed to say that?

Am I allowed to say that? Obviously, we were condemning. People were jumping on them. People were like, you need to put away the Bible and get out there and play some football and execute the offense. You know, the marriage between him and God damn, why am I forgetting the head coach name? Sean Payton, you know, it won't go right now. Oh, I thought. You told me by the marriage before here.

You're talking about the marriage between him and the head coached. Yeah, you know, it seemed like it wasn't working. It wasn't jelling. But listen, they was in the dating phase and they went on the honeymoon. And now you see in the marriage blossom between Sean Payton and Russell Wilson and things are going exactly where they want to go. It's not how you start is how you finish. And the way they look offensively. Yeah, communication is key.

And the way they look offensively, sudden playing good football. Jerry Judy is doing what he needs to do. No, he's not. Oh, Cho, stop that, Ocho. Listen, Jerry, Jerry, Judy. Stop that. Ocho, come on now. What are you going to talk about, man?

Ocho, come on. Ocho. What you got something again? I ain't got nothing against? No, I'm never going to have. What did he ever on the day? What did he run a day? Jobs.

He had some drops. He had drops. Come on, Ocho. He had a touchdown, and he didn't drag his feet. All he got to do is drag his feet, and he got one in and stepped out of bounds. What? You think he, maybe he, maybe he, didn't know is, you know, he didn't understand spatial awareness based on.

He's the wide receiver. You've got to know where you are on the field, Ocho. Can I ask you a question? Yes. Are you saying that? Have I ever played wide receiving an NFL game? Yes. Yes.

Have ever called a test out of the wire receiving the NFL game? Yes. Hey, have you ever called a test out? You didn't, you weren't able to get both feet in? Oh, Joe. Yes. Oh, Cho. You got, if you see the play.

Ocho, if you just saw the play, you'd have said, yeah, Judy, you got to get that one in. If you just saw the plate. If you just saw the plate. One thing I know about receivers, they want them touchdowns. They want them touchdowns. He definitely, he definitely.

You can't make that mistake, Ocho. It's, Ocho, that's why I receive a one-on-one. You're right. Okay. All right. That's why I receive one-on-one. And he dropped, a rust three and one on the sideline. But, Ocho. You got to keep eyes on the ball.

He's a body catcher, Ocho. You got to keep. Oh, no, no. Judy got hands. Now, don't do that. Don't do that. He don't trust him. He don't trust him.

And if he don't trust him, why should I? They're your hands. If you catch everything in your body, if you say you got good hand and you got to catch every... Listen, catching with your body is situational based on where you are on the field. You're in the middle of the field. Sometimes you want to secure the catch with your body. Anything in the open, you know, you got comebacks.

You got sometimes... Sometimes you got a high point in the ball, Ocho. You can't always... Ocho, you can't always jump up and do this. You can't always jump up and do that, Ocho. Sometimes you got to do this. That's why I said it. That's why I said it's situational.

You don't want to get yourself killed now. But here's the thing, no, Ocho. When I say a guy's body catcher is that he's most comfortable catching the ball in his body. Everybody, look, everybody from Jared Rice to Chris Carter to Lafittance, even the guys that we think,

Brandon Law, even the guys that we think have great hands, have caught the ball in their body. Right. But they're comfortable, catching the ball out here, out here, out here like this. You know what's funny? When I think about it, I'm glad you said that, you know, in the NFL, and I'm not sure

the casual fan would say this. Sometimes the casual fan would say, oh, man, that's an easy catch. But you know, there are some people that are just natural past catchers. Like, it's a beauty. Like, think about point guards. There are a lot of point guards in the NBA, right? But something about seeing Kyrie Irvin played a point and dribbling and have the skill he has. Right.

He's honed that skill to where he's. much better and different than everybody else when it comes to dribbling and coming off the drip. You know what I'm trying to say. You know what I'm getting that. And there's some people like Larry Fitzgerald, Deontry Hopkins, those are what I call natural God-given past catches. Yeah. Just naturally God-given past catchers.

Right. One more person. I just left somebody out that has crazy hands. I always tell guys, hell, if you don't trust it, you don't trust your hands, you think I should? Yeah, yeah, you're right. I mean, that's the yours. You, you. the idea is to catch the ball,

whether it's your body, whether it's your body, whether your hands, and sometimes some people are a little bit more comfortable and relying on catching with the body because it puts you in a more comfortable state

when you know you got bodies around you're trying to knock your head off. The thing is, when you catch it with your hands, you're really catching with your eyes because your eyes have to track the ball. So when you go up and do this, you got to,

because I see a lot of people trying to catch them up. Bro, you've got to throw your head back. You got to see it. I hear you catch it like this here. You look it like, you're looking at me. You think I'm going to throw the ball in your hands right there? Right.

You got to take your head back. And I don't see enough guys. I mean, you know, it's easy because, you know, you get, oh, you know, you just cradle over and catch it. Nah, bro. I mean, like I said, the Ocho, like on a fourth down or a big third down, yeah, I'm trying to, I'm trying to bite in that thing. But early on, I'm trying to get about, I'm trying to get about a dodge. Trying to be pretty with it, huh? hey, I'm trying to get up out of Dodge.

I'm trying to hear, and go. Yeah. But, yeah, he just, I mean, it's just, I mean, the thing, that touchdown. But, Ocho, you know, when you settle for field goals, that gets your beat. Yeah. I mean, and you're dealing with a team like the charges,

and granted, they're already on their backup quarterback. I want to deal them with death blow. I want to deal them with death blow. I want to like, oh, no, 21, nothing is over for y'all. Go on. Get ready for next year. Yeah, pass the sticks. Yep, yep, y'all done.

But congratulations on the Broncos winning. Hey, hey, you know. I see you Russell Wilson. God is good, what? Bronco Country. That's what we do. Bronco Country. Let's ride.

Don't do that. No, we don't put that ride. It's debate. That's what he said. No, Russell Wilson said, Bronco Country, let's ride. That was last year. You ain't heard it mentioned it at all.

You ain't heard and mentioned it at all. Nobody wants to hear no, let's right. He need to bring it back. No, we didn't bring another back. Jesus got the wheel. Take this. He's about to drive that thing off in the ditch. Check this out.

Last week, Jamar Adams attacks a reporter's wife and then double down. Last week, Jamar Adams was beating for what was essential a game-winning touchdown by Jake Ferguson and the Seattle lost to the Cowboys. Jets beat reporter Connor Hughes, who covered the team since Adam was still with them, tweeted yikes on the touchdown. He never mentioned Jamal by name, but it's pretty clear the yikes who it's for. Nothing more, nothing less. That prompted Jamar Adams to post a picture of his own with yikes in response and go after the huge appearance of his wife. Adams doubled down talking to the media. It's always the athlete that crossed the line when he responds.

But at the end of the day, the disrespect is disrespect. However you want to take it. So I responded, I knew when he did, when I hit that tweet, it wasn't. I wasn't in it to win it. At the end of the day, I was going to get him to understand. Leave me to hell alone. When others go low, I go lower. I have a question.

You know, that'll be the old show. You know what I mean? Yeah. When they go low, I go to the basement. If you join me in the basement, I go to hell. I have a question. Yes. The beat reporter.

Who is the beat reporter for? For the Jets. He covered the Jets when Jamal Adams was at the Jets. Okay. So why are you posting anything that has to do with the Seahawks? in the first place and then putting yikes behind it. Why?

Why? Why even go there? Why go out your way to purposely antagonize someone that doesn't even play for your organization instead of focusing on our team?

I'm saying our team because I'm Zach Wilson, bitch, Zach Wilson fan. Why do that? So, of course, purposely trying to antagonize him and say yikes

because he got beat on a touchdown. Yeah. They won the game on. Right. So he fired back in his own manner. You can't disrespect me and tell me how the disrespect should be taken. So I can react, how I want to react. And no, when you ask that question, no, I wouldn't do that.

I wouldn't do that. So somebody tweeting, yikes that you got beat for a touchdown is disrespectful. Why are you even, you already know what he's trying to do now. Come on now. Don't play on. Don't play. I just saying. You know he did.

You know he digging at the man now. You know he digging at him. He's taking a dig at him. It's low. It's low. Why are you doing it as a Jets beat reporter? You shouldn't be focused on nothing to Seahawks are doing

or somebody that used to play for your organization. You don't need to. But Jamal Adams getting beat for a touchdown, why is that surprising when he's not known as a cover safety?

I don't know why. You know he's not a cover safety. He's in the box. That's not a cover safety. That's a strong safety. Right, right. Right. I know what you're saying.

I look at, would you say Ed Reed is a cover safety? Oh, yeah. Okay. I look at, and he can play in the box. That's the crazy part about it. Or I look at a Kevin Bayard. He's a guy or Justin Simmons.

Those are guys Aminka Fitzpatrick. Those are guys that I look at as cover safety. I look at him as a box safety. He's tremendous against the run. He's going to blitz. You send him on a blitz to knock the opposing quarterback. I don't want him in cover. I don't want him no more.

I don't want him more than 10 yards from the line of scrimmage. I don't want him down the field. That's not what he's good at. I don't want him on any tight end. None because that's not his expertise. That's like me. That's like me.

You're asking me to hold up against a Michael Strayhead or Bruce Smith or Reggie White. And then when I get beat, I'm like, yeah, what do you expect to happen? You ask that to me. Yes. Yeah, yeah. I mean, but, well, again,

Why are you even going out your way? Why are you even going out your way? Because you know what you're doing. You know what you're doing. Now, do I condone the disrespect of someone's person? No, I don't. But you can't tell someone how to react when you start first. When you started first purposely, you can't tell someone how to react.

Guess what happened? 49ers did on social media. When he got beat by Debo, yikes. Yeah, because he put it out there. He started it, of course. Of course we won't use it. So now that's a running joke, of course. You open Pandora's box.

To this day, they said Shannon can block. Just imagine, as many times as somebody said Shannon can block, if I went around in some people's wives or girlfriends or significant others, Ocho. I hear what you're saying. If you can't take it, don't dish it. You know what you was doing as a beat reporter, putting yikes behind something by a player

that isn't even with your organization anymore. You're taking a dig at him using yikes. This all Jamal Adams had to say, those that can do, those that can't write or teach him. Why are you telling him how to, how you tell him how to respond to the disrespect? You can't do that. That's how you come back.

Because now it looks now, they're like, oh, you salted. Now for the rest of, guess what? Every time he gets beat, guess what for the rest of his life? So he'll go around and salt the 49th social media or the 49th? So you know what you open it up. You know what you open up, Ocho. Yeah. That's the way the world work.

That's the way the world work. But I'm just saying in this world, in this world we live in, you can disrespect someone and then tell them how to react to the disrespect. True. You can't. Which is why I don't say anything bad about anybody in general. And that's a problem. But anyway, we'll get a problem.

It's not a problem. I'm getting love. God, I talked to God the other day. He said, boy, your own earth, and this is your purpose. Your purpose is to love. To critique at times, but to love. That's your main goal. Well, you need to be in a missionary.

But anyway. I will say this. Here is a simple rule. You got to be careful of letting people know what makes your tick. Because once you let a person know what makes you tick, they can wind your ass up and make you tick when they want you to. Right. Be careful, Ocho.

Now they know what makes Jamar Adams tick. I'm going to wind his ass up. I don't think he was really ticked. I think he was firing back. The man was fired back. You don't think the man was ticked. No, he was just firing back. He was just firing back.

You know how it is firing back. Let me ask you question. Tell me why people fire back. Huh? I mean you heard exactly what I said. Explain to the people at home. Explain to the people at home. Why do people fire back?

The people at home fire back to get their lick back. It's okay. Okay. So you got jokes? Hold on. Why you get your leg back? Oh, you want to be funny? Why do you get your leg back?

Because you want, hey, you want to be funny. You talk about yikes? Here, let me be funny too. Yikes right back. Hold on. If you said he wasn't tick, why he need to get a lick back? Because, I mean, come on, you really think, I don't know, no, no, no, no.

I mean, ask you the question. Don't ask a question. Do you really think, you really think, answer that question? Answer that question. Answer that question. Think about it. Yes. Yes. Do you really think it was upset?

He said at the end of the day, I was to get him to understand, leave me to hell alone. When others go low, I go lower. So he felt, do you think he was really upset? Do you really think it bothered him that much? It doesn't matter what I think. Listen, did you hear what he said? Did you hear what he said the first time?

You know I don't like you and didn't like you, when I was with the Jets. So why even go out your way to do what you did? He did it for a reason. So clearly he was, so clearly he was ticked because he didn't like it when he was with the Jets. No, he wasn't ticked. He just, oh, you want to, you know I don't like you,

but you want to go out your way to make, to make a post about me getting beat. So I'm going to fire back. What's wrong with that? I'm confused. I'm confused. So what? So he has to be upset because he fired back?

So if you say something about me and I say something, about you because you said something back. That means I'm upset. I'm not upset. I'm just fired back. I'm only going to respond if it bothers me. That ain't high work. That's a damn lie.

Because every time I talk shit to somebody, I'm not responding because I'm upset. Oh, you're talking shit. Well, I'm going to talk shit back to you. I don't got to be upset about it. See what you did? Had they not said anything, would you have respond? Then I'd be going about my way.

I'd been going by my way. Since you went out your way to say something, I'm going to say something back. Doesn't mean I'm upset. Ocho, do you understand? I don't know if you notice. But there are a lot of people that got podcasts, and they only have podcasts,

they only do numbers if they talk about me and Stephen A. Right. I don't respond. I don't care. I don't care about you one way or another to lend my audience to hear me go back and forth with you. I understand. That's what you won't.

Right. I just want to know, why can't you make content without talking about me, without talking about Stephen A. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. I need a little better context, now. Who will we talk about you?

I don't get, no, no, no, no, no. I don't mention names on my show. Hey, hold on. If you want to talk about it, if you want to tweet about them, I don't mention. Nah, man. Not on this one. Ain't anybody from playing with us like that.

Like, no, they're not playing with you. We're playing with me. We're a team. I'm good. No, no. But they ain't playing with you. I'm good. I'm good.

I'm good. Oh, Joe. Hey, see, I tell you, this. I don't play that shit, man. I'll fuck somebody up about you, man. We don't need to do that. Ocho. Let me take my glasses off.

Ocho. Ocho. Ocho. Ocho. Ocho, we messing them up by having $35,000 watching live. We messing them up that we got $430 in 8 in two months. That's what's messing them up. That's what's bothering them.

That's what's eating Gilbert's grapes. Who is Gilbert? Oh, you got a problem. Who is Gilbert? It's a long story. I explain it to you one day. Hey, but long, you can't let no, you can't be And people just say anything about us, man.

You need to let me know, man. Ocho. Ocho. Man, I'm with the shit, boy. You heard me? You know my grandma? My grandpa. Hey, I beating the ass about you,

uncle, boy, I don't play that shit, right? We don't need to, we don't need, but Ocho, let me take something. My grandma, my grandmother told me out of the little boy, she said, boy, never chase a lie. Yeah. I don't care. You show you good?

I'm great. Okay. Good. Yeah, let me, listen, let me know. Let me know. I've been having, see. I ain't even know. You shouldn't have told me that because I want to know who says something.

No, Ocho. I want to know who says something about you. Ocho, it's not important. But I'm just saying, and the same thing I told. The fact that they can even, the fact they can even, Mofficking had a dassey to say something about you? But that's how they get, that's how they get clicks. They got to mention me.

Yeah, they're going to get, they're not, they're not, they're not, they're not. They can produce. Like me, you and I, we don't discuss anybody else in this business. You do what you do. I'm happy for anybody that has a podcast that's on television and you're producing content. I don't got to take no shot in nobody. I don't got to tell you what this person feels that way or that person because I don't care what y'all think. Because y'all don't cut no checks.

Right, right. Okay. Y'all don't stop me from doing what I need to do in order to thrive, not leave. thrive. Right. So that's how you... It's just hard for me to understand. It's hard because you, you're a good, you're a good dude, man.

You're a good dude outside of them expensive-ass dogs. And people talk about you. That shit don't... That shit don't sit right with me. But here's the thing to Ojo. You have to understand. Think about... I'm one of the few guys, and there are a lot, especially, you know, I wasn't classically trained

to be a journalist. Okay? I was at CBS for a decade. Great opportunity. I appreciate Tony Bettini. I appreciate Sean McManus for giving me the opportunity. But I was kind of miscast because I don't need to be at a desk. I don't work good in sound bites.

I need time to expand upon why I'm saying what I said. So the format that I got when I got in 2016 or I went to Undisputed was perfect for me. It also got an opportunity for people to see my personality. the sense of humor, the relatability, the charm. They got an opportunity to see that. I'm not afraid to make fun of myself. I'm cool. I'm cool being Shed and Sharp.

I don't need to be anybody else other than myself. Right. And so all of a sudden, people like, man, they gave me my followers, my fans. They gave, I never called myself, uh, they gave me that. Now everybody that I meet, that's how they refer to me. NBA players, NFL players. I'm talking about people in the street, even women.

Can I call you on? Yeah, go ahead. Yeah. It doesn't bother. I'm happy. But it bothers them because of the level of success that I've enjoyed, especially over the last couple of years. No, they said that.

They said that in the movie American gangster. They said that in the movie American gangster. I'd never forget that line. Success creates enemies. Yes. But I just told me and you, I told you, I told us to you before. You can't worry about nobody else plate. You got to always keep your ass on your own plate and not what nobody else doing.

I've never taken a shot publicly, privately, and anybody. You're going to tell me who? No, no. I just want to start some shit. No, I know. But that's what they won't. But they're not on my watch. What we got? What we got? How we go?

I'm feeling good. We're getting a ton of Falcons-centric chat. Dion, while we're on topic of play calling, what would the Falcons be free of Arthur Smith and Desmond Ritter? And Desmond Ritter, just the turnovers, man. It's just hard to overcome that. And he had a decent day. I think he threw for 347 yards.

Yeah, yeah. But just the turnovers. That guy did. It's just the mistakes. He's good, boy. Obijon Robinson. I like the other kid from USC. Yeah.

What's it? Drake, London. Yeah. They got Kyle Pitts. I mean, they got... Man, that's what they need. They need to release Kyle Pitts to somebody that's going to use him the right way.

That's what they need to do. And the thing is, Arthur Smith is really has a really tight-in-centric offense. The tight-ins normally do a tremendous work. You look at what they had when they was in Tennessee. Remember when he was in Tennessee? That two tight-in set with Derek Henry? Yeah. But they're not using...

And he got a car pips is better than all the guys. Right way. Oh, yeah. Kyle pissed the real deal, man. Yeah. Jamar Grant asked the Falcons if they, the Atlanta Falcons is a coach away from being contenders. I smell Eric B. enemy on the way.

Honestly, to be, I wish E.B. You have stayed. With the Chiefs. Nah. Because they're by the clean house. They're about the clean house. So wait. Eric Bianney got to go.

He just got there? Yeah, he's going. wait you have to oh cho when it's like when you buy a house now you can keep the furniture if you want to but more times than lot what you're going to do with it you tell them take that furniture with you yeah but they ain't another play caller that is of the caliber that the commanders can bring in that is that of eric be enemy so do you really want to get of yeah because when when when they remove uh ron rivera he the new coach is going to run to bring his guy his guy oh or he's probably he's probably, if he gets the head coaching job,

he's probably because Josh Harris is the owner, he's wrong probably to say, are you going to call the plays? And so the new owner's going to want somebody that's going to call the plays, or especially, are they going to go get in the market to get a quarterback? I mean, what direction they're going to go in?

Quarterback, Sam Howell is playing good football. You sure you want to, I thought he was the answer? What's the question? The commander fan said Sam Howell was the answer. I heard them say that. Maybe me and you, me and you, me and you logged

to a different chat. Uh, uh, Mr. King, Dre asked, will we ever see a Michael Big experience in Atlanta again? I doubt it.

Hell nah. I doubt it. I never see. Michael, Michael Big is a one-off. You probably, I mean, y'all about being,

I'll happen to be at Atlanta at the time that Michael Vic was with, and, Think about it. It's called the Michael Vick experience. They've never been anything like it. For a reason. There's never been anything like it.

And we got guys that got great leg. I mean, I think Lamar Jackson, I think Justin Fields, I think we got guys that. But they ain't Michael Vick was on that turf. Yeah. Lamar Jackson is dynamic. He's great at what he does. But that Michael Vick motherfucking experience, you had to be around. You had to be around to understand the difference between that.

and what we're seeing in today's game. That shit was different. And I can't even put it, I can't even explain, I can't even put into words, that is something you would just had to been around to experience. You had to see it. You had to be around to see it. And YouTube, YouTube ain't gonna work.

No. That ain't gonna work. Something, something you had to experience it for yourself. Yeah. You know, like, when I try to, what my thing is, when I try to explain Freak Nick. Right. Oh, 94, 94, 904. Man, you know what, I gotta get up. Hold on. Let me repent. Hold on.

Boy, Freak Kneek 94? Man, look here. 94, 94, 93, 94, 95. Man, why you think I moved to Atlanta? Hey, listen, I had to stand up. Man, me and my brother. Boy, I got some story by Freak, boy. You ain't got no story like I got some story.

I got some stories. Boy, no, I got my stories better than yours, but. Hey, look here. I ain't talking about no skeletons. I'm talking about a graveyard. I got a graveyard I can digger. Man, listen. Well, would you, I'm the pallbearer.

What you talk about? Ocho, man, look here. You don't want to talk about, you don't want to talk about no freakney stories, man. No, I don't. I don't want to talk about no freaknik stories. As a matter of fact, what is freaknik? Huh?

If that would have a picnic air, that's a big old prick nick? Yeah, it's a picnic all right. Tablecloths everywhere. Man. Boy, them some days, boy. I just said, there was a lot of Bibles out there. for that week of you.

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the worst advice from the dumbest people you know. Listen to help from a hypocrite. as part of the Mike Coutura Podcast Network available on the I-Hart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Austin Rivers says, we're still relying on LeBron James to be the face of the league.

Rivers added, there are things that LeBron, Michael, Jordan, and Kobe could do that just from an odd standpoint that we don't have. You believe LeBron is still do you still believe LeBron is the face of the league? If LeBron is not the face of the league,

who else would be up? Who would be runner up? I think they wanted Zion Williamson to be the next base of the league, but that didn't pan out the way it should be. And I think, Zion, if you see this, you need to get with me. I can help you with some of the things

that you're struggling with. No, you can't. Back to the top again. Because he's eating fast food. That's his problem. You can't help him. What do you mean? I can't help him.

How do you want you're going to tell him to do? I train like a madman, man, man to get this body. looking the way it looks right now. What do you talk about, B? Ocho, you are a thin-frame man. This man, he has to be careful. He can't eat that.

He cannot. Did you just say, man, I'm big bone. What's you talk about? I'm thin-frame, man. I'm 220 right now. What do you talk about? I tried to tell people this, and they say, Shannon, you hating on him,

how you know you're not around. You just talk about a guy that was in peak physical condition. Right. when I played, I'm in fairly good condition at 55 years of age. So I can tell you, I can speak, I see, I know what I see. And I'm telling you, Zayana does not take, he loved the game, but it's the things that you do prior to the game. Right.

His conditioning, his eating habits. That's, that's, there's a way to overcome. You know what, that's another topic. I'm not even going to do that because we'll be all day. He can't, he can't overcome a bad diet. he can't he can't okay it's been reported that the team ask him your diet your nutrition can't you see what his stomach and his ass going in two different directions one going that way and the other going that way now you guess which one is which man stop playing no joe you see that man he and the problem

is is that he still has success but just imagine how great he could be if he got himself in shape. The first thing he should have done, the moment he declared for the NBA draft, he should have picked up the phone and called Charles Barkley. Chuck, because he's a more athletic Charles Barkley.

And all he had to do was pick up the phone and say, Chuck, how do you, Charles, Mr. Chuck, but how are you on the call? You want to dress him as Charles, Chuck, Mr. Barkley? Right. Remember what I need to do. Because I want to, I want to have a long,

prosperous, healthy career. What do I need to do? How did you do it? Right. That should have been the first call he made. Right. But I'm not wrong if I'm mistaken that Zion Williamson was in place to be the next face of the NBA once LeBron. Okay, I just want to make sure I didn't just pull that out the goddamn air.

You know, you got Steph Curry, you got Janus. But it's kind of hard because Janus is not American boy. It's hard for someone to be the face of American sport, even though it's a global sport. For. Right, right. Right. But LeBron is still the face of the NBA. He still that dude. He is.

You know, I would, I might have been at the old, the ITF, the end-season tournament game. Oh, you know, yeah, yeah. You said, cool, side. That's your idea, I did, I did. Hey, how much them, how much of them tickets was in Vegas? You know, you know. You know, it ain't what you know who you know. I got, you know.

Oh, you got the hook up, huh? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Okay. You see, AD do a 40, 20, LeBron had a whole hum 24, 11 and 4, Austin Reed, Kobe of the Ozarks, huh? Yeah, can we, can we get that Anthony Davis every night?

If you get that Anthony Davis every night, if you get that Anthony Davis every night, that's Will Chamberlain. If you get that Anthony Davis every night, who'd be Nalekles? That Anthony Davis, nobody. Not if you get that Anthony Davis. Thank you.

Thank you. I don't even want, listen, I don't want that, I look, I got realistic expectations. He were angry. I don't know who did something to him before the game. He just played angry. I'm like, damn, what you mad at? He didn't let nobody, he didn't let anybody off the hook.

He didn't let anybody, because any time, anytime a little man got on him, they gave it to him to me, they started harder, crispy cream with the hot, with that light on, the hot light on. Yeah. Oh, yeah. That's what he started in crispy cream. Every time they got a mismatch.

Krispy Kreme. He went to work. Brian give it down to him. Delo give it down to him. Oster Reeves give it down to him. Because we already know what Krispy Kreme is. You ain't going to eat just one. You eat a whole dozen up.

And they couldn't hot with that light on. Man, I run up apart. I probably eat by six of them right now. I had no creepy cream. I probably had no Krisp Kreme. I probably had Kris cream. probably about seven eight years.

Crispy cream is a part of my nutritional diet. So I can get a meal playing over to you if you want to. You can incorporate than what you're doing right now as somewhat of a cheat meal on Fridays and Saturdays.

Hot? I'm talking about them hot. I'm talking about hot. I get my Krispy cream on one city third. We got cribsic cream right down on one city third. They ain't got one close in Beverly Hills.

So they ain't going to be hot by the time they get to me. Why are you even in Beverly Hills in the first place. You in L.A., man, go right there on Chris Shaw, right on the corner. It's across some, I don't know, the Louisiana fried chicken, Krispy Kreme right there across the street. Aaron Gordon said, I went on a date with a girl one time. And the last thing she had on her phone was Aaron Gordon's network. Yeah, that's what they do. I've been preaching that for years. Yeah, that's what I tell you, what you're buying all that shit for? Who are you trying to

impressed. Why are you driving that? Why your watch cost $300,000? Why you buy a $200,000? Why you buy a $200,000? Why you buy a $225,000 dollar dollar? Let me finish talking. Okay, go ahead. Go ahead. Finish. The women you try and impress and already Google how much you making. You ain't got to do nothing else. You already got it. Okay. You already got it. And why buy her what? A $225,000 down. who you trying to impress you said why who are you trying to impress why you buy her that

$250,000, $300,000 car who are you trying to impress because I got it so when other guys that got it and they do it who you're trying to impress but because you got it you get to do it well I'm marrying my man they just try to fuck them

it doesn't matter it does not matter why are you trying to impress if you're On state context. Context matters. This one is for life. That's for fun. There's a difference. That's why they do in the group.

Which means you shouldn't even do that because you got it for life. Why you need the impress her? Because she's a representation of me everywhere she fucking go. That's why. So in other words, you're talking about both sides of your neck. Because you got it. You can spend it. But somebody else got it.

This is, no, no, not for them. Not for them. Listen, that's an investment. I'm getting a return on that. What they get, the return you get on that is nothing. You can get that for free. So you don't believe them,

you don't believe the men can marry that woman if they wanted to? You're trying to be funny? No. You trying to be funny? No. You think he's going to marry the motherfucker woman that's Googling his goddamn network? You're trying to be funny.

You know how the game go. Don't do that. Don't do that. You know how the game go. Don't do that. You're quite hostile. You got to play. You got, listen, you better play the game right.

You're going to get burned. Don't you do that. But all I'm saying is you get because you got the money. You feel this is an investment. You feel you get to spend as much as you want, but nobody else can. I ain't spend no money. You did. No, I didn't.

You bought that ring. You said 225. And if it's a lie, you told it. Now, we saw that card that she got. That was on, you bought that. You saw my car. I'm not talking about yours. Whatever you drive, you bought that.

The money that purchased, that car came out of your account. That money for that ring came out of your account. But hold on, the car I drive, she purchased that. You see how they go? You see how they go? Oh, so, I'm talking about you spending. I'm talking about you. I'm talking about you.

I am. I'm talking about you. Listen, I'm matching the energy that is given to me. See, on the other hand, the person and that's gooting your network. Let me see your ring. Let me see your rig. How much your ring costs?

Let me see your left face. No, no, no, touch the camera. How much that costs? Shit, it's about, it's about $40. Okay. So where's your $225,000 diamond ring? I don't like no shit like that. Oh, now you don't like it.

I don't like it. Now you don't like it. Now you don't like it. Hold on, yo, yo, yo, yo, you don't follow me all your life. And you know how I am about financial literacy and spending goddamn money. Don't you do that. You just spend half a million dollars.

And now you're going to, You know, you know why I was able to spend half of me because I didn't spend no fucking money when I was playing. I was cheap as hell and I still am. It doesn't matter. It matters because I'm giving you context on why I did. I'm giving you context and you're not listening. You're letting you go on your head.

No, it ain't going on my head because what you're trying to do is saying I'm, if you're financial, if you're doing financial literacy, that means you do that all the time. I do it all the time. I've been doing it for the past 30 years. You spend 500,000. Okay. For the person that's going to be here for the rest of my life. So you're going to go spend five of that.

Wait, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Bill Gates, they dropped Bill Gatesworth $115 billion. He didn't drop no $2.25 when his wife ring. He ain't by her no half a million dollar car. So now talk to me. How you know? You don't know them people. I do go back.

Demand it. You don't know, you don't know them people. You don't know, Bill. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. You don't know, Bill. Your anti-grabble is starting to show. I'm not hostile. I'm just telling you.

See, you know what happened? This is why I need to get you a woman. Because if you had your woman in your life, listen, no. Stay with me, now. If you had your woman in your life, you understand why I was okay spending that money. That's the problem. That's the problem. See, you want to spend $10,000 on the goddamn dog.

You want to spend goddamn crazy $300,000 on some goddamn Laker tickets. But you want to spend goddamn private jet flying $50,000 for an hour. But you want to talk about. about I can't spend no goddamn $500 on my woman. Enjoy, because that, you enjoy your wife, woman, right? No, no, no, no. Private plane, you don't need to do. You can get your ass on Spirit Airlines just like I can.

Ocho, Ocho, I'm going to enjoy my life. You don't even have to, you don't even have to pay $300,000 for legacy, and tickets because you can watch the game at the comfort of your home like I do. Okay, that's what you choose to do. You see? No, no, no, no, no, no, no. what you're not, you're not, you're not, there's, you're not getting any return on that investment that you're doing. Everything ain't meant for return, oh, Joe.

I'm getting a return on what I'm investing in. I'm getting return. My happiness. What? Being able to, being able to sit courtside, watching people sit. No. How do you get determined my happiness? No.

How do you get determined what makes me happy? Because you can get on the airline with me. Me and you can fly sphere together. But, hold on. We can pay two. No, no, no, no, no. We can get a goddamn team. How do you guarantee you'd be happy with me when we get, when we get, when we get,

be going. How do you get to determine what makes me happy? Because I know it makes you happy. I know it makes you happy because we cut from the same cloth. Oh, Joe. We cut from the same. And you know what? And you won't understand it, right? You won't understand it because you, you're a bit stubborn. I love you, though. You're a bit stubborn. That's why until I get you a woman in your life to complete everything that you're doing, you will never understand what I'm coming from. But again, let's get back to the topic. Let's get back to the topic. Guess what I have right now? Guess what I have right now? A woman? Peace. Anyway, Jada Pigginsmith. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. So you're saying if you have a woman, you're not going to have peace? I'm not saying anything. I'm saying that's what you just said. That's what you were alluding to just now. I have peace. Who would you say I don't have a woman? Well, why you ain't tell me? Why are you keeping shit for me if you got a woman? Whoa, whoa. See, oh, Joe. Do you have somebody? Let me know if you have somebody so I can stop searching. Jada Pickett Smith says, I will never. I will never. Lee Will Smith. Oswald.

Save my marriage. Ocho. Does she know they're not married? I don't understand. What's wrong with her? They have cohabitation. They live together.

They have a cohabitation. I like that. I never heard that word before. I know. Say it again? There's an agreement that you can enter to is called a cohabitation agreement. Cohabitation.

I like that. I like that. Ocho. So she did this to the Daily Mail. When you gave this interview, to the Daily Mail. I mean, basically, everybody will say,

nah, we're good. We're not here to, think about what she said. Right. The slap saved a marriage, but it ruined your husband's career. Right.

I'm confused because I don't follow the gossip much. I understand. I know the slap. It was everywhere, obviously. But if my mistake, and she said,

we weren't even married at the time. Thank you. So I'm not sure why he got up. They were married, but they weren't living together. They hadn't been together since 20, I'm not even sure why he even defended me. And he said it was a bad thing to do.

So now... She's talking about both sides of a neck. Yeah, I don't know. Maybe they're just on good terms. Maybe whatever dynamic they have going on, maybe it works for them. And I'm not really one to talk because I don't know their situation. I don't...

I'm not Wendy Williams. So it's hard for me to even discuss their marital terms. But I like that word. What's that word again? Cohabitation. Let me write that shit down. Hold on. Ocho, can I ask you a question, Ocho?

Yes, sir. If that's the approach that you want, you want to be able to see who you want to in the marriage, he wants to be able to see he, why you get married? Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Now you know the, you know them, the wealthy live a different lifestyle that has nothing to do with the societal norms

and traditional values that we were raised on. You know that. So why use the term married? They complete, oh, they- Marriage is a social and normal term. Right. Marriage in itself is when you do it, you do it, you do what works for you. I don't think that the definition of marriage, but okay.

Listen, you want it to work or don't you? You want it to work or don't you? So marriage in itself, in the meaning behind it, everybody can't do it that way? or the way it's supposed to be structurally done. So you do what works for you and your partner. Me personally, I think the more she talks, the worse she looks. Well, she always talks, though. And I think she always will because she always has been in the spotlight.

And she has always put us in their private business, which is why we're talking about it now. Because if she didn't say anything, we wouldn't even know what was going on. No. I mean, but that's the thing. She does it for a reason. I think I like She's trying to sell a book

But I can't I mean But you're willing to say Your family for a book Oh she wrote a book Wrote another one Okay That's a good thing no

Yeah Are you gonna read it? No Please No No Charleston White was attacked On stage

After arguing With the audience member You know who Charleston White is He was on stage He funny He funny man He funny And the funny thing about it

I've seen Other interviews with him he's a very smart intellectual guy too. He's a very smart intellectual guy. I've seen some of the stuff he's done and some of the things he said and he knows this shit and I think he purposely dumbs it down

on purpose. And I saw the guy tell him, start talking right and, you know, guy bumbrust the stage. It just, Charleston White be talking cash shit, boy. He'd be talking cash shit, too and about everybody.

He's a fun guy. He's an entertaining guy. I see him, you know, up and down the timeline at times. And I mean, he tells it like it is. He tells it like it is. Some people might not like it. He's one that doesn't cut any corners. And, I mean, that's pretty much it.

Yeah. I mean. What would you do in that situation? If you was a comedian, you was on stage and somebody rushed the stage. Beat his ass. Oh, you can't. I paid to be up here. no, you're not, you ain't

gonna rust on stage on me. But they paid to see you. You can't beat up the people that paid to come see you. No, he paid to listen to me and sit his ass in that seat. He paid to come up on that stage or he should go to open mic.

Or go to the promoter and ask to get on the list. Right. Because you come up there, I'm not going to let what happened to Chris Rock happen to me. Oh yeah, that's right. somebody did rush the stage.

That's right. No, ain't no rush no stage. Will Smith. Oh, he's got a wheel. He's about to see. Yes. Okay, okay, okay, okay. Yeah.

No, so no, no. But see, my thing is, as a matter of fact, I remember going to a, um, I went to a comedy show. This was probably in 2000. Mm-hmm. And Martin Lawrence. And, you know, I was dating. Oh, put the spotlight on me. Roaster me.

I bro took it you ain't say that bad no look I'm at a comedy show

I'm at a comedy show I'm cool with that right if I go to the comedy show I'm telling her look they probably gonna recognize who I am

be dressed appropriate yes because hey I ain't fighting nobody I ain't rushing no stage hey I ain't doing none of that I'm gonna sit down, I'm gonna laugh.

I'm like, yeah, that is some bullshit you got. That is some bulljab you got old. So I'm gonna get some of it. Hey, if we're getting the car, I'm like, he tow you up or she told you up tonight. I told you not to wear that. That's what you gotta do. You just gotta roll with it, Ocho.

Comedity. The longer you fight it, the longer they're gonna stay on you. Yeah. Yeah. So just, hey, just roll with it. Oh, that's funny, man. Oh, man. Check this, Aote.

We got a ton of really good fan questions and any questions that we don't get to the night because they're only have two games tomorrow. We'll definitely get to them tomorrow. Check this out, Ocho. Someone asked, do you think anybody from the NFL NBA will ever reach the amount of money that Shoah O'Tonni,

Shohei Otani, which short, in America means, show me the money, just got from the Dodgers in a contract because that contract, 10 years, 700 million. Shit, no. Definitely happened in the NFL. Hell. And hold of him. And he going to get every dime of that.

Oh, yeah. That's guaranteed, baby. Hey, I know some. I'm glad you just said that because I heard when I was watching it, I saw it happen. What did, when they deferred, they say some of the money's going to be deferred. Yes. That means he's going to be 75 years old getting $10, $15 million a year. Okay. Okay. I just want to make sure. But he's going to get every dime. Yeah. That's crazy. Mark's main asked, as a former player,

is it particularly difficult to watch receivers make obvious and critical mistakes, draw past, and poor routes, line up wrong. Yes, yes, it is. It is hard. It is very hard. It's very hard. Because let me tell you why.

Because I believe in order for you to enjoy a level of success as a team. I'm not talking individually. I'm talking about as a team. Right. You can't have those kinds of mistakes. Yeah. Well, I understand it because I was one of those that made those mistakes. You know, you want to minimize them as much as possible.

So for me, I'm able to empathize with those that do make them because I was once that same player at one point in time. So it's hard for me to harp on someone that's making those mistakes when I did the same shit myself to answer your question. It's not hard for me because I get better. And as my coach you say, son, get good or get gone. You can get better or you can get gone. That's as simple as that.

Oh, you can't get it as simple as than that. Yeah. There has to be a level of expectation. If you don't expect, if you don't demand greatness of yourself. Right. What are we doing here? Right. What are we doing?

And I'll never ask any more than I'm willing to give. That's what my grandfather said, boy, you never ask more from a man than you're willing to give yourself. So if you're going to ask a man to eat right, you damn show better be eating right. If you ask a person to train and stay the extra hour, you better be willing to go to extra hour. Never ask more than you will. willing to give. Right. Therein lies why I've had a level of success and my team had no problem listening to what I had to offer or what I had to say because they knew I wasn't telling them anything

that Shannon Sharp was not doing himself. But I demanded greatness. I expected it. You could not be on the field with me and make those same mistakes. No way, no how. And I was very fortunate that I had coaches that believed in me and trusted me. And I was like, no, he can't play He's not ready to play. That's my job. Right. As the elder statesman, when you expect mediocrity,

you'll get that. But when you expect and demand greatness, you'll get that also. And if they can't give you that, it's time to move on. And I know everybody's not the same. I just want your best. And I can't have you making the same mistakes over and over.

I can't have you make it running the same lazy-ass route over and over. I can't have you lining up offside over and, over. I can't keep having you fumbling the ball running the wrong route. Because who does that help? How do we get better? How do we get to, how do we get to win a division title? How do we get to win a Super Bowl? We do doing this. I just have a level of expectation. And that's why I'm not a coach. That's why I'm not a coach. Tom sports debate as a pro as a pro as a pro sports caper, I get praise when players ball out by the jersey, etc. But I called them out when they don't. If you played in this age sports betting,

how would you handle social media better losing money off your plate? Well, are you sending me anything when you win the money? Oh, that's a good one. Kevin Durant. I mean, but he said he does. He buys the jersey. He says that when guys win him money, he'll buy their jersey. Right. Honestly, guys, I mean, there was sports better, but there was no social media when I play. Hey, look, bro, I'm trying to win a game. I'm trying to. I'm trying to. to win that game. I promise you. I want to win that game. More do you want to win that $500, that $500 or that

$25,000? I promise you. I promise you. And I'll stay up later at night. Have more restless nights because I dropped the pass or I made a mistake that somehow cost us a victory or didn't go the way I

wanted to go long than you'll worry about that money. That hurt. Yeah. And you know, I tell people that are gamblers, you know you're going to win and you lose. And if you're not willing to lose, you shouldn't be gambling because you ain't going to win them all. No.

You can't, I mean, you're not supposed to gamble anymore than you can afford to lose anyway. So you shouldn't be upset when you do lose. That's the problem. Of course. Anthony Jamerson said, ask who's your top five rappers of all time? Who's your top five rapper?

Oh, shit. Damn. Man, you didn't put me on the spot. man. Lou Wayne, Jay-Z. Damn, that's,

that's hard. It's tough. It's hard. It's tough. It's hard. Because I go back a little further to you and I got like

the old school rappers like KR. W. KRS 1. Um, Molly Mall. I mean, Big Daddy Kaine. Big Daddy Kaine.

But here's the thing. A lot of the great rappers, they didn't last long. Right. I mean, you look at Tupac. Tupac died at 25. Yeah.

Biggie died at like 25, 26. Early, yeah. You never know what they would have evolved into as they continues to grow. But you know, for me, even though they didn't have longevity, boy, they said the world on fire when they were here. Biggie Tupac, Weezy. Yeah, Louang.

And that's a difficult question. I like so many different artists. Some of the people I would know. name, people like, why are you in your top five? He's not even. No. No. Lyracist.

Lyracist. Is Drake up there? Not for me in top five. Right. Not top five. Probably the best pure lyricist is probably KRS one. One, yeah. Most definitely.

But I love Big Daddy Kane. I mean, the guy that don't get credit that had the greatest longevity. Hold on. I'm a bad friend to go there. Hold on. is LL. LL? Yeah.

Because LL was a team and still going strong. LL and out of the same age. LL only 55? Yeah. 55, 56. I think he's 55. I think he's 55.

I think he had not the same age. Oh, I ain't know that. Yeah. Right down LL. L.L. Oh, he's licking his lips. Oh, what we got? Ocho, Skyline, a Gold Star, Chile.

He's from Houston. He raised in Cincinnati and adulthood in Baltimore. Skyline or Gold Star Chili. Skyline. Chicken box or crab. I'm allergic to the shellfish, so I'm only eating chicken. I ain't working with no shellfish. In a dilemma, return my three-year ex.

Hold on. In a dilemma, return my three-year ex or pursue a long-known girl from, hold on. It says in a dilemma. He says he's in a dilemma, return to my three-year ex or pursue a long-known girl from school.

I feel might be the one unsure which path to choose. I also haven't really talked to her in years, but I also thought she's the one, advice. How you know she ain't the one? So he's a dilemma. He, okay, does he return to a three-year-ex? To his ex or three years.

or pursue a long... A long... Yeah. Nah. Nah. Bro. Enjoy your life. It's hard.

Man, it's hard going back. You know what they say? A love is like an eclare. Once it goes cold, it can't be reneeded. I don't. You left for a week very few times. And I'm not very few times. And I'm not going to say never or always

because that means forever. But there are very few times that you leave and you're able to go back. What's going to change? What's going to change? Either her or you. Somebody had to change. Did you make any changes or did she make any changes?

And what, first of all, what led you to break up in the first place? I think that's the biggest key, Ocho. What led you to break up? Say this out, Ocho. Alex asked, who's a better wingman? Uncle Ocho. Me? I'm the best wing man.

I'm the best. I'm the best wingman in the world. Yeah, because I know back in the day, you to took one for the team. So you to be, you that wing man to take one for the team. Who? Nah, ain't in a pain. Yeah, you got. I'm the, I'm the, I'm the, I'm the, hold on.

You ain't going to take one for the team. I'm the wing man that's going to make sure all the fellas got a woman. I need you to, I need you back in the day to take one for the team. I need you to be that homeboy that, you know, that a hold, that a snake. If I hold a head, I need you to be that homeboy. Dude, boy, it depends on what the snake looks like, boy. Anyway. I got a home, I had a home boy.

Yeah. He's like an American Express. I couldn't leave home without it. Oh, hey, Ocho, I don't care if she's four foot. I don't care if she's seven foot. I don't care she's 125. She's four 25. Right.

You know that home? I told you, he'll hit the snake if you hold a head. Yeah. My home boy hit the woodpile of snake in. Yeah, he like that Yeah, man Yeah, man Yeah, I'm

Hey, because you know Now you know how normally the females are They're gonna be about five They're gonna be about three or four I'm sometime five And everybody ain't gonna be up the part Everybody ain't gonna be dimes And listen, the ones Wayne Dimes

is gonna cock block so you can't get to the ones you are I need somebody running affairs for them So it might be one 10 and they four other with them So all of them together add up to be a team. So you know, there might be two, two, some twos and pews up in there. Yeah.

So I need somebody. Hey, homeboy, hey, hey, don't worry about this. Hey, don't worry about this. I got you. Yeah. You. My home butt got that. Yeah.

You sure. Yeah. It got us. Homie, you got. Say no more. Out to the race. Out to the race. We go.

But you need, you need one of them. You got to have one. Every time. If you ain't got a homeboy that'll take one for the team, he ain't no real homeboy. Everybody got it, though. Everybody got one of those in your clique and your entourage. Everybody has one dude that is going to take it for the team.

Now, I just want y'all to know. I ain't ever been that dude. That ain't ever been me. Oh, no. No. So you always been that boy. You know, I ain't. Okay.

I just ain't look here. Y'all know now. 1-80, you ain't a lady. Two 10 count your boy in. You know, I'm saying, you know. Hey. Let me use that. Now, you're too late.

Now, you got real. Real. Yeah. You good. I'm good, too, Ocho. I'm good now. I'm good. You know, but back of the day, you know.

Yeah. All right. All right. All right. You know, I always been pretty strong. You know, I was there, Ocho. You know. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. I'm still trying to figure out, man. Like, you're throwing like, like, you're trying to figure out. You throw in a hints and clues. Dude said before rail, who was your slave crush? Damn.

I ain't had no, I ain't, that's a good one, boy, I ain't had. Oh, yo, no bullshit. And I don't even care if I get in trouble. Who you had? Mother fucking Lynn Whitfield, boy. Lynn Whitfield, burn your heart. You don't love it. Hey, she burned your house.

You set your call for. You see what she did to Martin? Listen, Miss Lynn Whitford. Let me take my glasses off, man. So the people understand. Lynn Whitfield. Oh, listen here. Yeah.

I got one more. Who there? Kimberly Elise. Yeah. No, no, no. Yeah, that's her? Yeah, I know you're talking. Yeah.

Kimberly. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Cholita. She's fine right now. As a matter of fact, I just saw yesterday.

She's fine yesterday. too. Mm-hmm. You know who? Oh, Cho. Look here. When I say this, guys, I'm not shooting no shot, so don't be tagging

this woman. Don't be bothering this woman. Right. Talk to me. Oh, you got me. Hi. Who you got? Who you got?

Who you got? Regina Hall. Lord of that mercy. That's a good one. I met at the Super Bowl one year. You didn't get a number? I didn't, walk up to it. Yeah.

I say, hey, how you doing? My name is Shanna Sharp. She's like, I say, Miss, Miss Hall? Oh, she said you know who you are? Yeah. But I introduced, I introduced myself. I say my name is Shannon Sharp. Right, right, right.

I know who you are. Yeah. But she left an impression on you, boy. Yeah. We got to hook that up, boy. What do you think? No, we don't, no, no. Oh, Joe.

I just told you. Did I just tell you? Okay, my bad. All right, my bad. We can give people flowers. Yeah. But I try to take the flowers. Okay, I'm sorry.

I apologize. I appreciate it. Joshua said, I just found out today, I'll be a father. Can I get a shout out for my wife and myself? Peyton and Joshua. Love the channel. Congratulations, Joshua. I don't know if you know if it's going to be a boy and a girl,

but I hope it's a healthy baby. And much success to you and Peyton. Congratulations on being new parents. Congratulations on the first. If this year first, one is better than two. Make sure when she delivers, you get back in there. Huh? Get back in and do what?

You mean, get back in there. Get back in there. Get my break, man. Damn. I don't get no break. I mean, it's the first child. Yeah. Two is better than one.

Get back. You don't want them too far apart. You don't want them too far apart. Listen, send me a deal. You don't want them close together. No, you want them close together. You want to get it out of the way. Get it out the way now.

Get it out of the way. If you want more than one, get it out the way. As soon as you deliver. Give it three weeks. Get back in there. John 330 said. I finally called a live show and I'm, and I'm admire both of you on and out of the field.

Could you guys give my daughter, Autumn, a birthday shout out. Happy birthday, Autumn. She turned 13 today. Happy birthday, Autumn. Make sure you eat McDonald's. Oh, Lord, have mercy. He's the worst, he's the worst mentor ever. Thank you guys.

Please make sure you hit that like button. Thank you for subscribing. And please, please, please, leave us a review on Apple Podcast. We would greatly appreciate it. We've gone a lot longer than we anticipated tonight. But that's what happens

when we have. Yeah, yeah, we went a lot longer than we anticipated. How long we've been on the night? How long we've been on? Been on 205, which is a record. God damn, two hours. That's what I said.

Yeah, and I got to get up. I got to go to work in the morning. I got to go to work in the morning, no, Chuck. Where you got to work at? Man, you ask me this all the time. I'm just asking. Where? I got to go.

to ESP in downtown. Oh, on first take? Yeah. The same first take I've been asked you to take me on since September? Oh, Cho. I'm just, you told me, you told me to wait till you got your goddamn foot in the dough. Shit, it's been four months. I'm still waiting.

My foot in the dough, but I ain't got my ass in the dough yet. You know what I'm saying? But shit, you're ass in the dough. We're almost in 2024. Your ass is in the goddamn dough. Well, that's what I got to get in. That's what I'll be fully in. All right.

All right. I'm still waiting, then. I wait. Ain't no problem. I just want to do one or two blocks, A block, B block. I ain't asked for much. That's it. Thank you, guys.

Thank you for, hey, man, we got, we got like 3,000 sub just since the show started. I appreciate y'all, man. I appreciate y'all for sub it. You don't understand. It means a lot for me, man. It means a lot to me. I'm not sure y'all don't even know. I'm behind on child support.

And I'm sure at some point with y'all's subbing and helping. me out, one day I'm going to be able to catch up on child support. I ain't got no, hey. Yeah, I'm only, I'm only behind like $250. Hey, much. Guys, listen, and I know you guys, a lot of people say, where everyone is asking why we can't get, do songs. Well, what happened when we were doing songs and we got hit with copyrights.

So when you get hit with copyrights, YouTube take the monetization button off. So for the entire night, we can't monetize the hour and a half, the hour and a half, the hour, 45 or the two hours. And it's just not worth it for Ocho and I. So that's why we can no longer do songs because we lose the ability to monetize the podcast. I have a question. Yes.

And this is very confusing to me. If we sing a song, let's say, I'm not going to say the name. Can I even say the name of the song? Or is that... You can't say the name of it, but we can't sing. We sang Silent Night, right? Yes. Silent Night has been...

So many people have done renditions of Silent Night. Right. How does that affect anyone that were not saying an artist's name? Whoever had the original version? They had a problem with us singing it? The company did, maybe their estate did. You know what? I'm going to make a phone call, man.

I'm going to make no phone call. We just ain't doing no more songs. It's just not worth it. It's not. And I get people, you know. We were having fun. We were having fun. It was harmless.

But hey, no. So that's what we're. we are with that. We'll find another way to to keep you guys entertained. Hopefully, be two and a half, the two hours, sometimes we go 90. We always go, we always go at least, you know, least 75. That's the least amount of time

that we'll go. But we'll go 75. Sometimes we go 90. Sometimes we go 120 minutes, which is two hours. And so hopefully during that process, our sports take, you really enjoy. And the stories that we tell, you also enjoy. So thank you for subscribing. Thanks for hitting that like button. And remember, go to Apple Podcast

and leave us a review. I'm your favorite sports uncle. Shannon Sharp, he's your favorite number 85. Chad, Ocho Sinko Johnson. See you tomorrow. I love y'all. We might can't sing, but the love ain't fin to stop. Call me.

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