The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Nightcap - Cowboys holding on vs. Lions, Russ vs. Broncos, LeBron's birthday

Episode Date: December 31, 2023

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to the controversial ending in the Detroit Lions-Dallas Cowboys games, more drama in the Russell Wilson vs. Denver Broncos situation, the Georgia Bulldogs pummeling the FSU Seminoles 633, LeBron James' 39th birthday, and much more! 00:00 - Introduction04:00 - Cowboys beat lions35:00 - Russell Wilson calls benching a "low blow"49:00 - Russell's next team01:02:00 - LeBron's birthday ruined01:28:00 - Ceedee Lamb will get PAID01:44:00 - Ocho's next book02:04:00 - Parenting advice02:20:00 - Much more Nightcap! #Club #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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us and the success of NICAP is all because of you. We do what we do, but we need people to like what we do. So we greatly, greatly appreciate that. Ocho, let's jump right into this ball game. The Cowboys beat the Lions 2019. C.D. Lamb had a career night. What we had talked about last week.

He got going early. And you see 17 targets tonight. That's what he should have had last week. But they didn't make that mistake they made last week. Dallas improves 11 and 5. Remains in the mix for the NFC title. Dallas falls to, excuse me, Detroit falls to 11 and 5, third in the NFC. So the worst they can be is third in the NFC.

That's the worst they can be. So they will host at least one playoff game. Oh, Joe, Ocho, Ocho. Where do you want to start? Listen, I like the game. I enjoyed the game on both sides of the ball. Obviously, the first half, it was a been but don't break. Excuse me, it was a bend but don't break defense.

Both offenses really couldn't get in the rhythm, but it made for excitement, especially into the second half of the game. Dak was decent. CD Land was fucking, oh, shoot, my bad, my bad, Unc, I curse. Cid Land was balling. Brandon Cooks showed up tonight. DAC was efficient. Dak was very efficient.

They really couldn't get in an end zone as many times as I would have liked them to. But it made for an exciting game on the tail end. The Lions, listen, we say they fall to 11 and 5, but we talk about the Lions here. Is it really falling, being 11 and 5 and being third to NFC, and obviously going to the playoffs?

They play good. Obviously, they couldn't overcome the turnovers. I think golf through 200th century, by my mistaken. He did. He was 27th, not mistaken. And I really like Dan Campbell. Dan Campbell's Scalhonus to go for the two-point conversion, to get it. And obviously, the tackle, not checking in. Right. And they're going for it again,

and him not even caring. I really like that. For him, the team, just the confidence, the morale, just the whole nine yards. They didn't get the win. But again, it was a great game. The Cowboys played very, very, very good football. I'm glad they figured out in order to be in games, in order to win games, you got to get your playmakers to ball. They tried to run. The running game really wasn't efficient with parlor tonight.

But got-man-old-old-year, hadn't been good all year. Yeah, you're right. You're right about that. I didn't want to say that part. I just wanted to mention it about tonight. But CD-Land, CD-Lam went off, man. It was a great day. This is what obviously you just said.

I'm going to piggyback on what you just said. This is what C.D. Lamb, what they should have done with him last week, too. Mm-hmm. and not allow him to disappear into the second half of the game. Right. You know, it makes life easy. It makes life easy for the coordinator.

It makes life easy for DAC. And it opens up everything else. I thought that took the ball exceptional well tonight, Ocho. With the exception of that one mistake where he got picked, he was a little late throwing the CD on the move. Yeah. I thought that played really well because even if you look at some of the incompletions that he had to the tight end, if the defense doesn't make great plays,

Jake Ferguson come down with those balls. He had two, but it took extraordinary plays by the defensive player. to get the ball out. So, Dak put the ball on the money. So with the exception of that one bad throw, I thought he played, I thought he threw the ball exceptionally well. The Cowboys can't run the football.

Dak has a lot on his plate because he has to be great. Because when you're one-dimensional, now everybody knows what you can do. And they know the Cowboys can't run. But to the Cowboys credit, they were able to find the Get Seedy isolated. They put him in the slot a lot. They did a lot of picking.

if you notice they did a lot of rub rots. And both guys can't press because you're going to get picked off like you did. So somebody have to be off and somebody has to be bumped. Okay. They didn't get that rectified. I thought the Lions ran the ball well. The problem that I have with the Lions, you know the Cowboys. They're looking to cross your face.

They want to make every run play bounce. How many times did we see them get tackled in the backfield, Ocho? because they let D-Law or they let Armstrong or they let a Giggy Zua or they let someone cross their face. You know the cowboys, they're undersized. What they don't want you to do is to come downhill at them. So they're looking to make everything bounce. I mean, damn, Lange, I'm sure you watch films. I'm sure your old line coach told you.

I'm sure the running backs told you, do not let them cross your face. And almost every time when they didn't let them cross their face, five, six, seven, eight yards, nine yards, ten yards. It's really that simple. Oh, Joe, look, I get it. The two point, look, I got a problem with the first down they went for them on fourth down. You did?

I did. No, I'm talking about early in the game. You remember when they ran the fake punt? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You ain't like that? I didn't for the simple fact. You took points off the board after that great play. So now that's deflating because we did something great and now we got nothing to show for it.

At the end of the, I want something to show for, man, we went for it. And that's huge because look where they work. They would have given Dallas the ball like at the 20 yard line. Worst case scenario, the Cowboys are going to come away with three points. Maybe seven and blow the ball game open. That was a gutsy call by Dan Campbell. Now pay it off by getting points. And see, now maybe now we got to.

a different situation. Now instead of we're going for it, now if we go for two, that puts us up by three. Now the Cowboys are going to need to kick a field goal in order to tie us. Right. But in that situation, Decker does not report because

if we're to believe that all the angles that ESPN showed us, he never goes to the referee or the umpire and does this. You always got to report. You got to report. And you got to make sure he let you know he got you coming in reporting as well. Yeah, exactly. Now you look at the receiver. He's the X. He has to be on the

ball. The moment you're off the ball, you make the line with ineligible. Yeah. Yeah. So it was just a matter, okay, what do we want to call? Illegal touching by the offensive lineman or illegal formation by the wide receiver, not being on the ball. The choice was yours. They had to. Yeah, one of the other, they had to call something. And I think, I think the thing about it is normally, obviously, you know, you script your plays, you script your game playing. I think, they might not have practiced this in a very long time. Right. Because if they had, they would have regurgitated over and over.

Make sure you check in and make sure you, you on the ball. That's on Jerry Golf. Jerry Golf got to say, hey, hey, Decker, you make sure you report, hey, official, 68, 68, right, right, right. Now, you probably don't, hey, you got to do it in a loud, in a quiet manner because you don't want the defense to know that he's eligible now. Because they're listening to, hey, Mr. Rell, 68 is eligible. Decker needs to go to him.

Me, me. Take something. Yeah. Yes. That's crazy. It was a good play call, too. It was a great play call. The great play call.

Oh, Joe, you're not expecting no big ass line to go catch a real. Hell, nah. Especially not that scenario. No. On a two-point conversion? Hell no. And it kind of like semi-rolls away. So you're thinking, okay, we're going to see a sprint option to the right

because he's a right-handed quarterback. Now he feels up and he throws back side. Decker makes a great play. Excuse me. because he catches the ball with his hands. So I just didn't like, look, I get it. Okay, the first time, Ocho, we didn't get it. So now they got to back us up.

Now I'm going to kick the field goal. And now I'm going to kick the PAT. I'm going to kick the PAT. I just am. Now, I get it. You're like, okay, we're locked in. We're locked into the number three seed. I like to be able to have a chance to get the number two seat.

I don't know if they had a chance. Did they have a chance to get, if they went out? I mean, they had to have a chance to get something in order to be going for two. Well, they're locked into the three seed because the NFC Southwinner can't get to 11 games if I'm not mistaken. I think they're like seven, they're like eight and something, eight and seven. So I don't think they can get the bucks. It's the bucks, right? Right, right. They can't get to 11 wins. So basically it's the 49ers, the Eagles and the Cowboys now with a chance to get the number one

scene. Right. But and that's only if that's only if the Eagles and the the Eagles and the lose out. The Eagles and the 49ers. That's crazy. Hold on. ESPN just showed another angle. Jerry Goff literally sends Taylor Decker

and tells him to report as eligible. Oh. But did the official see? Did he tell the officials? Oh, my goodness. He's talking to the official, and it seems to me that he's telling the official 68 is eligible.

That better not be the case. because the NFL Hold on Wait a minute Jared golf can't tell him The actual player The actual player has to go check in right That ESPN showed another angle

Jared Goff sends Decker To tell the official That he's reporting as eligible Right So Decker did report That's what they're saying I mean I mean the angle is that we

Derek golf literally sends Decker Let me see Okay Somebody in trouble. Well, they got an out. The out is the receiver didn't line up on the ball. So we could have called.

They had to a flag anyway. Right, right. But that's not what you do the flag. That's not what you call. Right. You can't say, oh, the guy was our, oh, we could have called our side, but that's not what you called. You called holy. Right, right. You should have thrown two fields. We had an illegal formation and an illegal touching.

That way you cover yourself. Because sometimes you see it. We have holding by the defense. That penalty is declined. We have unnecessary roughness on the quarterback. That penalty is accepted. Accepted. Okay. You cover. I see. I see what you're going. Yeah. It was, like I said,

I thought the Cowboys, the Cowboys defense played okay. I thought the offensive line did a great job of protected Jared golf. Golf did not have a good night throwing the football. He was really good on the last drive. And then you see the last throw. He kind of aims it. And he forces the tight end to try to go down.

he puts it on him and gives him an opportunity to turn. Because in that situation, Ocho, you want somebody to put the ball on you so you can turn. You can turn up field. Turn up to him. That's all you want. Oh, yeah. Oh, Ocho.

Yeah. They got, he's in the huddle. He tells Decker, Decker walks towards the official as to say, I'm eligible. So then the rest got the call wrong then, basically. They did. Oh.

Both. And he walks to the, he walks to the referee. He walks to the referee. He leaves the huddle, walks to the referee, and says, so. Now, Brad, I think Brad Jeffers, Brad somebody is the official who is the referee. Right.

Brad got some explaining to the boot do when they go to the ref pool. When they go to the pool, when he talks to the pool reporters, he's got some explaining to do because the reporters are going to see this. And they're going to see him leave the huddle and go talk to the referee. So what excuse can he use? I don't know, but he's going to have some planning to do. You say, I mean, but the tackle was still covered up anyway, so a flag would have had to have been thrown.

They didn't throw a flag. It's just like when our defensive player, just like when Baum Miller lined up outside. They didn't throw the flag. So it ain't no penalty. We can only go by the penalty by what you call, what you threw the flag on. You threw the flag saying the player was an illegal touching

because he's an offensive lineman. You didn't say illegal formation and illegal touch. you can throw two flags, you can throw three flags. Right. They got some explaining to do, Ocho. That's crazy. That's crazy. Brad Allen.

And the fact that he did check in. You know what? And he also did Chief Packers. And we know how that played out down the stretch. Remember, they called undefined and roughness on Patrick Mahomes when he was inbound. And then they missed the blatant pass interference. Perience. And they missed a blatant pass interference on Armand St. Brown.

The dude grabbed it. and he got there before the ball had gotten there. Yeah. That's crazy. It's going to be very interesting. I'm anxious to see Brad Allen explains this because Jared Allen tells Taylor Decker to go to the official. He leads the huddle. He talking to be a referee who he's supposed to let him know.

That's a good look. That's not a good look because, Ocho, you know how it is. They're already talking about, oh, it's scripted. Everything. Oh, the, you know, and the one thing that. And that's why the one thing that you can't have is professional sports. You can't have it make people think it's WWE. Right.

Where the ending has already been scripted. Well, you know, when I think about it and I think of the game, think about the game of football or sports in general. Right. It's hard to script things like this. You got 11 guys on the field. You can't have everybody a line on a certain script. All I need is the official.

I just need the official. All I need, I don't need 11 guys. I just need one of field. Right. Didn't you see how Tim Donahey did it in the NBA? He didn't have a whole lot of receiver in Cahoots. I just need to throw a flag at the most inopportune time. You see how that, you see how that flag changed the dynamic? I'm not saying that's what happened, but I'm saying you see how they can do that.

Okay, I see where you're going with it. I get what you say? Right. No, that's not, you know, you can't assume. He can't assume. That's crazy. because they brought two linemen. They brought a lineman in running onto the field.

So he thought, he possibly thought that 70 was reporting. Uh-huh. Which would have made 68. Oh, they did have that confused. Yes. Because it was two linemen now. And they looked like they were unbalanced because they, right, right. Let me see the formation.

Just go to the formation. Let me see its formation. All right. That's crazy. Because I want to see, did they go unbalanced or whether or not the formation? That left side might have been over. So, yeah, I just think the thing, Ocho, it was, C.D. Lamb had to have an outstanding day, outstanding day because Michael Gallup got a lot of cardio in.

The guy started the game, didn't get a target or a catch. And he has the eighth highest cap hit. Yeah, that's unbalanced. They got, no, it's a normal formation. You should have receiver. The receiver was off the ball on that side, wasn't he? He was. He X, he got to be on the ball.

But that's the X. You know, Z is off the ball because normally the tight ends on the ball. Right. And if the tight ends in the flex position off the ball, now the Z has to step up. Right. Okay, okay, okay, okay. You got you right, you're right, you right, you right, right. So you got to have six guys on a lot.

You have to have six guys on the line of scrimmage in order for it to be an eligible formation. So normally it's five down linemen. and the X receiver. Okay. The Z receiver is off the ball. Unless the tight end backs up off the ball, then the Z receiver can go on. It's going to be very, very interesting.

Ocho, this is the 10th game where he's been held 20 a few yards, Michael Gallup. And remember at the beginning of the year, I said he didn't look the same last year. And I said, okay, it's going to be interesting to see because the second year is normally when the player looks like the original player before the injury. He doesn't look the same, Mocho.

He doesn't look the same, obviously. I don't think the opportunities are coming his way for him to really get into rhythm as he liked. I don't think the trust in the trust in which Dak has to have and Gallup to be able to get open consistently and always be there for him. I don't think it's there like it once was when he was healthy. There were some plays that I do remember last year in that first round. Yeah, he'll make a tough catch every once in a while. But we need consistency, especially the predicament in the situation that the Cowboys are going to be in,

we need consistent play, especially at the number two position. Think about what you? We need consistent play from him. You traded Amari. You traded Amari. Gallup was supposed to replace Amari's production. I mean, he would. He would, he is capable of doing so, but I think the injury,

it hampered that. He was capable of doing so, but I think the injury hampered that. You know, it's very difficult to come back from ACL unless the last name Peterson. Agent Peterson is one of the few that came back. The way medicine is now, guys come back from ACL, but it's medicine, but that mentally is

different. It's different. If you look at guys that have ACL injuries, you look at them, look at how they walk. Look at how they walk. You're never really ever the same. You'll never be your true self, your true self, obviously you have to get over that mental hurdle after getting injured too, willing to use that leg or that side of your body as opposed to the way you used to

when you knew there was nothing wrong with you. I think it's, I think like you said, it's more mental than anything because we see with the way medicine is now and the guys, the way they rehab. I mean, guys are coming back. I mean, yeah, that used to be a year. And like, I'm willing to give guys grace and says, okay, the first year back, that's kind of the rehab year, even though you're still playing. But that next year,

you should be 100%, you should be the player you were before you had that injury because you're completely ill, not, Ocho. Everything is functioning. Everything is functioning. It's not that easy, huh? It's not that easy. Especially, listen, I've never had any injuries, so I'm really not the one to be sitting here talking about ACLs.

I've just talking about from experience and knowing those who I've been around, those that I've played with, and seeing them go through ACL injuries. They go through other soft tissue injuries and break. for that matter and trying to come back or coming back and playing a year or two years later. And they would tell me and I would always ask, you know, how you feel? It's like, man, I'm not the same. I'm out there trying, but I'm having to compensate and overwork other areas to make sure I don't hurt myself again. Well, I could understand that, especially the first year back.

And so that's why I tend to give guys grace that first year. Because although you're back, I'm saying that you're still figuring your body out, okay? Right. Man, because it's just like anything, anytime you come back for an injury, am I going to be the same? Am I the same player? Once I get that hit, once I run that comeback, once I take that absorb that blow. I'm like, man, I'm okay.

Yeah, yeah, I can't do this. I can do this. But I just think the thing is, oh, Joe, they're going to have to make some decisions because he has the eighth highest cap here. You can't. And remember, they gave him the contract even after he had torn the ACL. Yeah. So they believe that he could come back and be what he once was or they wouldn't have given him that contract.

Because when you get a contract, Ocho, yeah, I get it. You know, I'm giving you a contract based on what I believe you can do because I've already paid you for what you done. It wasn't like I'm trying, you know, well, I ain't getting paid. I just want to show what I can do and they're going to pay me moving forward. No, they're paying you all along. Now, moving forward over the next three, four, five years, this is what we can, we believe you can be. and this is the value that we're placing on there. Now, you can negotiate up or down or however you try to go down.

You try to go up, but that's what they're trying to do. But it's going to be very interesting, Ojo, to see what happens with this call? Because we've seen now a couple of years ago, we saw Hitchens. I think it was Hitchens that run over the tight end and they pick the flag up. So this is the second time something has happened shady between the lions and the cow. I've never seen somebody. The guy ran the guy over. It's blatant's interference.

And they picked the flag up. So I'm sure Detroit is like, man, this is deja vu. This bulljave is happening all over again. So I'm sure the Detroit Lions fans that said in the chat, they said, yep, I remember. I remember when Hitchers ran over the guy and they picked the flag up. It was a big night for the cowboy. I'm sure they didn't want to lose this game. Jimmy Johnson goes into the ring of honor.

Jimmy. Very, very well. very short career, five years, two Super Bowls. And I read the thing where Jimmy was, Jimmy, Jerry was saying, he and Jimmy really didn't have any problems about, you know, bro, ain't nobody fired, no back-to-back Super Bowl winning coach, no back-to-back NBA champion, no back-to-back major league manager that wins, back-to-back championship.

And you fired him, Emmett Smith had just, you know, do realize that Emmett is 24. Michael is 26. Troy is 27. I mean, Troy is 27. No, Emmett is 24. Michael is 20, probably 26. Troy is like 26.

Imagine, imagine if he goes, imagine if egos hadn't gotten the way. Amanda, Jerry Jones hadn't gotten in his own way and allowed Jimmy Johnson just, maybe not to be the face, but be the coach. And he was there for a few more years. years with that same team intact. What you think would have?

How many Super Bowls you think they would have? Think about it. Oh, okay. What they're saying is, is that Dan Camber just said the explanation was 70 reported and two people can't report. John Perry, ESPN officiating analyst says that that's wrong. Two players can report as eligible. Uh-oh. Uh-oh.

Now, he, Dan Campbell, say that's the explanation they gave him. Right. But John Perry, if he is being an official, who was an official in the NFL, who can. Who can. Brad Allen,

Brad Allen, I'm anxious to hear what he has to say when the pool of reporter, let's see if we can get that, because he has to give when a special in a situation like this. Yeah. Yeah. Because remember the Super Bowl,

when the guy came forward and says, look, what we noticed is that the guy tried to be, you know, Juju goes inside and when he tries to make a move to uncover away the guy we saw the tug. So he had to explain why they threw the flag, especially in that critical of a moment. Moment. Brad Allen.

I got a question. Go here. If number 68 and 70 both report, would both of them actually be eligible to go out and catch a pass along with the receivers that are already lined up? Yep. That's a first for me. And I've been playing for years.

What if I don't know if you remember? That is a first for me. Oh, Joe. I don't know if you remember this. but what the Patriots was doing, they were taking making offensive linemen ineligible,

but making the running backs eligible in the playoff game against the Ravens. And the NFL did that that said, you're violating the spirit. That's not what the rule was intended for. And so they did away with that.

And so that's what the coaches do. They try to find a way to skirt, okay, they didn't say that we couldn't. Let's make them, hey, until they say we can't, let's go ahead, let's, we can. Okay, right.

You know what? It's easy to apologize than to ask for permission. If you know this old joke? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I got you. You know what? I didn't know. Plausible deniability.

That's the term they like to use. I didn't know. So the Cowboys win 20 to 19. Dak Prescott had a monster date. He was 26 and 38, 345, 2 touchdowns, one in the exception, CD Lamb, 17 targets. 13 catches, 227 yards and one touchdown. And the second longest passing touchdown, pass-plate touchdown in cowboy history,

only behind the Dandy Don Meredith to bullet Bob Hayes of 95 yards. Speaking of that 90, was it 92? It was 92 yards, right? 92, yes. Speaking to that, what was 55 doing on the whiff when he had an easy safety? You see what see, here's the thing. You see he tried to get the ball out. If you sack him, the ball might come out because he doesn't see you.

You think he was trying to get the ball? He tried to forearm him because, see, that's the side dad got the ball to. Right. So if I, the ball's going to come out. Get it, just put him on the, see, see, sometimes you do try to do too much. He will. Overthinking. I thought when I watched the replay and I saw it obviously on Twitter, I said, well, damn.

He closed his eyes. The middle of the head. And he out of control. Yeah. he's out of control he just running all that did would just move his shoulder that's it missed completely miss completely that means you're totally out of control he out there like a blind dog in a meat house old joe the man right there he he can smell that blind dog in a meat house you smell to me but you can't see a damn thing um so there's there's going to be a lot of questions i think there are a lot more questions than answered uh from this ball game but again you can't see a damn thing um so there's there's going to be a lot more questions than answered

from this ball game, but give the Cowboys credit. They hold on and win at home. Both teams are now 11 and 5. Cowboys win 2019 after the Lions missed on three. Two poor conversion in the ball game to take a 21-20 lead. So give those guys, give the Cowboys credit. They found ways to make enough plays at the end. But we'll see.

Who knows? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I'm excited. I'm excited for this next topic. Alan is looking at it at the point and pointing out Skipper. Decker is obviously trying to tell him he's the one reporting. Replay showed Allen telling Campbell it was 70 who reported. And Campbell screams, no it wasn't.

Campbell said he gave the official a heads up pregame. Slow mo replay show Skipper saying, I didn't say an effing word. Clearly, they planned and they practiced it. Brad Allen, you don't get to announce. you have to listen. And a lot of times, and you notice this, Ocho,

if you remember in the Super Bowl, yeah, Sean Payne told the official, be on the alert. We're coming with the own side. Right. Let them know ahead of time. Let them know.

Normally when you got a trick play or a gadget play, they'll give the officials the heads up to let them know. Okay. We got a double, we got a double, hey, we got a lateral here coming.

We got a lateral. So be on the lookout. It will be a, lateral. It's not going to be a forward pass. Right. Let them know before the game. That's crazy. I mean, that's, and you know what they did.

See, and the way they did it is that you sent two linemen over there. So they're thinking, oh, so 70's over there and he said, I thought it was 70. 70 didn't say anything. It was Decker talking to you. Oh, so now you are the refee, not paying attention. Not paying

attention. Because I got to cause some confusion because the Cowboys don't know. see two linemen over there so they don't know which one is eligible and which one isn't. Right. For all they know. And normally, and normally doesn't the ref have to announce that so-and-so is eligible, right? They normally,

but I think they did away with that because now you're alerted the defense. See, you know what, I ain't played in so long. I just remember them always always alerted and letting, let them know that that certain number or a certain line was an eligible receiver. Yeah. That's crazy.

That's crazy. Yeah. He said, Campbell also said that he ran this by them before the game. It's pretty clear. Brad Allen's on Skipper coming in

and just assumed he was the player that was going to be reporting. And the fact that Dan Campbell had that in his back pocket knowing that probably wasn't for a probably wasn't going to be for a two-point conversion

but just had that playing in his back pocket and knew they weren't run it at some point in the game. Yeah. That's crazy. Normally, normally a play like that. A play like that.

that's the play that I'm going to end something. Yeah. So you got this play on a third, on a fourth down, a two point conversion, that's the play. Yeah. Because I got to have a play in my back pocket.

That they don't know. And they haven't seen it. Did you see that double screen, that double screen that, who was that, that Jordan Lewis picked off? Yeah. That wasn't nothing but film studying.

Exactly. Formation recognition. That's the only way you know the jump. How to hell you jump in the screen and they fake the screen going the complete opposite way before they even came back to the opposite side? Let me tell you how we used to run the screen. Alex Gill was the offensive line coach.

Rest in peace, Alex. He used to always say bad things happen when you run the screen outside the numbers. That's why you teach them to stay inside the numbers. Right. You get outside the numbers, somebody can come clean your clock. You get outside the numbers, somebody going to come and duck in because you want to be inside because the lineman.

Because the linemen are not going to be way out of their side of the numbers. Where are the line going to be? You have to realize they got to catch, pretend like they're going to block. Now they got to throw and go. So now you're hoping now you're inside the numbers. Now you tackle picks him off. Now you've got the guard looking to peel back. Is anybody chasing?

I'm going to peel. I'm going to get in his way because I can't block behind the plate like we used to. Remember, that's the old crackback block. I'm just looking back just to getting his weight. And if there's nobody's chasing, okay, I'm looking to the inside because I know somebody could possibly be coming from the inside. So that's why you sit the screen up, especially from a running back that's coming out of the back field, you stay inside the numbers.

Bad thing. Go back and look at it and see where he was, and you'll understand, ladies and gentlemen, what I'm talking about. Oh, Cho, we're going to get, this thing is taking a leg of its own, the Russell Wilson called the benching of low blow. The Broncos could Broncos handle it. of Russell's situation. Some people have said the handling of

Russ situation makes Free agent not want to go there. Free agent is going to go because if they offer the most money, they're going. Yeah. Listen, players always going where the money go. Thank you. Players are always going where the money is.

Let's stop that. But again, I said it when we talked about it on the last show. Yep. It was a bunch of bullshit. Yep. It was a bunch of bullshit, for one, the way Sean Payton acted

when he berated Russell on the sideline. I think he wanted, he was, he was trying to, trying to bait him. Yeah. We're trying to bait him. Now we know it. And trying to get him to react.

If I could just get him to react, if I can get him, if I can rattle them and here goes another reason on why the benching is coming. When all along it had been planned already for the simple fact that I had no idea until it came until the story came out. Well, we came to me. We just beat the Kansas City Chief. What you mean you want me to remove the injury clause in my contract? And then the part that I don't like is Sean Pagan.

And Sean Payton saying, well, I don't know anything about that. Sean, you have total control, bro. Come on now. Why do they do that? They're paying you $18 million for a reason now. Come on, man. Oh, Joe. Had they gone, even after they had beaten Kansas City and says,

if you do not remove this injury clause from your contract, we're going to bench you. But they let him win another game and another game and another game. And they didn't bench it. Now, Russ has struggled the last couple of years. games. So you can make the argument, say, well, I'm benching him because he's playing bad. But no, you didn't bench him when he was playing good. So if the injury clause was that big of a deal, why not go ahead and bench him in October? Why not go ahead and bench him at the

beginning of December? I mean, beginning of November, why you wait till now? Yeah. See, that's the problem that, see, even though you can make the case that he, and I don't believe that's the case, but you can make the case that he's benching him because he's playing bad. All the people here is that you told him that if he didn't remove the claws, I'm going to bench him. You can bench him. And you didn't bench him when you was winning one, two, three or four games. So the injury couldn't have been that big of a deal.

It only became a deal once you started to lose. Yeah. And I think on their end, they were trying to see as far the turnaround goes and they were on a winning streak. I'm not sure what the playoff implications might have been for the Bronch. during that time, during that period, you know, around October. Yeah. To now, I think they wanted to wait and see.

And knowing Russell and knowing the kind of person he is, he's not the type that ownership would have to worry about him playing hurt. Right. Or saying it, oh, there's something wrong with me just to make sure that injury clause or that money he gets it. They know he's not even like that. They know he's not built like that. It's not his character. So there's really nothing for him to worry about, which is why, you know what, we can go ahead.

He's safe. He's safe. We ain't got it. we can go ahead and play them anyway and see what happened to see where we go. Mm-hmm. But this is what we do know. We know this got leaked from somebody on that side.

The Bronco they always do that. They do that on purpose. Because you know, first of all, Joe, the Broncos are not going to leak this because this makes them look terrible. Right. Makes them look awful. Right, right.

So, and my thing is, look, Sean, I believe, I don't believe Sean ever like Russ. I don't believe he didn't look. It's not his quarterback. Right, yeah. It's not his quarterback. He wasn't there when he came there.

Ownership as well. Right. They didn't bring Russ in. They didn't do the deal. But they were in the process. They could have held up on giving Russ this contract. Russ had another year on his contract. The reason why Russ left Seattle is because Pete weren't going to do this deal.

Right. And so his agent started leaking, oh, I go to Chicago. I'll go to these places I go to that places. And then when it asked for us, that wasn't true. All the while, that was true. Now, Seattle's not going to do the deal. Okay, where can we go and extrapolate as much a draft capital as we can? Two first round of the second round, the third round of players, the Broncos,

because the Broncos all of a sudden were starting to get desperate. They hadn't been to the playoffs. Right. One to Super Bowl, 2015, the beginning of the 20. Right. So now they're starting to get desperate. We need a quarterback. We need a quarterback.

And so they give this up for Russ. But in the process of doing this, I mean, he said things, Russ don't need to be kissing babies. You never told Drew that. Think about what Drew is in the community. Drew is beloved in New Orleans. How did he become that?

He had to get out into the community and to ingratiate himself. But you never told Drew Breed that. Kissing the babies. He never told. He never told Drew Breed that he needs to stop. kissing babies. He never said that. And I commend Drew

for ingratiating himself in the community. Take the head of kudos. Yeah. He's been a staple. He's donated money out of his own pocket. His foundation has been sensational in the city of New Orleans. So now for you to say that why are you worried about what I'm doing?

Your job is the coach. As long if it's not taking any way from my study time, as long as it's not taking any way from my game time, it's not like I'm kissing babies during the game. I can I couldn't get the playoff because I was kissing the baby. You see? Now, all the time, Sean Payton make it seem like they were going to the playoffs every year

because there have been some times that Sean Payton was going 7 and 9. And he wasn't yelling and kicking and screaming and Drew Breedges for now. You know, I think, you know, I would hate to say it's personal, but I just think it almost seemed personal with the way he was acting. Yeah. Soon as he got there, soon as Sean Payton got there, obviously through the media, you hear some of the things he was saying, some of the things that Russ is not going to be able to do

as opposed to what he did when he was in Seattle. Right. And he was undermining him, undercutting him, trying to let him know he's a big dog. Yeah, there's a new sheriff in town. And that's, that's very, very unfamiliar territory for a head coach to do as quarterback like that. Seasoning ain't even goddamn started yet.

He's coming in with that type. He's trying to come in, Ocho, and trying to say, there's a new sheriff in town. I'm in control. Like, you know, Captain, Phillips. When they, when they, when they, when they, when they took the boat on and he said, Captain Irish, look at me. Look at me. I'm the captain. Right. Right. So now John, Sean Payton says, you know what you had. Look, Russ. Look at me. I'm the captain now. Right.

You know what I hate, Ocho? See, it takes a really a special type of person to have power and not to abuse it. Now, if you want to, if you really want to know the measure of a person, giving power. giving power and see how he or she behaves. That in money. See, see, here's the thing with money. See, money doesn't change you. Money makes you more of what you already are. If you, if you're a jerk, you become an asshole when you get money.

See, money doesn't change. People like, oh, money, he changed. No, he wasn't. He'd been like that. But he didn't have the capital. He didn't have the resources to really show you who he was. Yeah. People that are cool, they've been cool even before they got money.

Money didn't change them. Money makes you more of what you already are. Power corrupts. Absolute power, absolutely corrupts. And you see, I hate when people have to constantly remind you, okay? You know I can have your job. Bro, I know you over me. I know you the boss.

You don't have to constantly remind me that you can have my job. Because it's going to come a point in time. I'm going to say you can take this job and you know what with it. So you don't have to constantly remind me. I know you the head coach. I know you the general manager. I know you do the hiring and firing. And I'm sure there are people, I'm not, I'm talking about NFL terms,

but I'm sure there are people out there in the chat that have been in a situation where you have a boss constantly remind you. I'm your boss. I'm over you. You know I can do this. I know I can do that. Yeah, most definitely. People that work in the corporate world, people that work nine to fives,

people that work, whatever been. it is that you in. People that have power, they always abuse it. Sometimes money, like you said, doesn't even have to come into play in just the fact that you have a certain position and you're in a position of power and you abuse it all the time, obviously belittling, whether it be coworkers, whether it be people below you because you're in that position. But one thing that always happens is those tables always turn at some point. Those tables always turn at some point all the time. And I like the fact about what you just said, money, money doesn't change people. It just allows them to be seen.

Now you get to become your authentic self. Yeah, I like that. Because money, but I know he didn't. He been a jerk. Yeah. He just became an asshole once he got money. He or she became an asshole, got money. Yeah, I like that.

So what would that? If I was cheap before I got money and then I got money and became cheaper, What does that really make me? You always cheat. You see, money didn't change you. See, people thought once you got money, you're going to start spending. You was always miserly. You were always frugal.

You was always frifty. You see, money didn't change you. You are what you are. Money makes you more about what you already are. Okay. If you think about it, Ocho, if you got a problem, money exacerbates said problem. You know what? I used to smoke a little weed.

And then you branch out. You go to the heavier stuff. Because now you don't have, you know, a little five and ten, you know, a little five, you know, a little joint little five and ten bag. Now you can buy, now you can go get some old leave. Now you can get your pound. You see that, Ocho? Remember guys in college, when they're drinking that bootlegs stuff, that shapers and Mickey's. They're drinking that raw good or ever clear.

Now you get some money. You go get the good stuff, don't you, Ocho? And then you get in abundance. You see? Yeah. It didn't change you. That's what you. you were. You just didn't have the means

to live how you really wanted to live. You see, and power it's like a parent to a child. You have all the power. It takes a special type of person not to abuse that child. You see, oh, Joe? Yeah, yeah. You see? Yeah. I like, you know, people like

with Shannon, I like to give analogies that people can like understand. And you see sometimes, you see people that abuse their child because they have all the authority. A power of, yeah. And then you take you to like, oh, I can do this. You can, but why would you?

That's the thing. To be able, look, I was the captain. I knew I had certain types of privileges. But to have those privileges and not to abuse them. Use them. It takes a special, oh, Joe, it takes a special type of a person to have certain types of power and not abuse them. We see that in a lot of different areas that people have powers and they'll abuse them because why?

I am in a role of authority. And so I hate this for us. Like I said, I believe, had they just went ahead and said, okay, you know, hey, we're going to bench you. We wouldn't have known. Hey, you could have been to when they started one and four. Oh, when they started one and four, that was the perfect time. Time, yeah. So I guess they didn't think he could get hurt when they're one and four.

They start to win. It's like, well, okay, we got a chance. Now you start to lose again. Now this is the opportunity. So my thing, he said they came to after go back, look at the game. When did they beat Kansas City? He said they beat Kansas City. They go into the buy.

They came to him, said if they don't, if he doesn't do something about the clause in his contract, they're going to bench him. What was that? Was that November? It had to be. I think it was October, if I'm not mistaken. October 29.

Yeah, yeah. So you go all of November, you don't think Russ could get hurt then. You go down near the entire December. Now with two games to go, you say, hey, Russ might get hurt. So what? Do they got different? So what? Were they not, was they not playing?

Maybe they were AI players over there. And so it's like computer generated. Yeah. So they can't fall on Russ. They can't hit Russ. Russ. Russ couldn't injure himself then, but he can now. You see, nothing.

It's a bad excuse for one. Management knows what they're doing. You know what you're doing. Why not just be honest? Why not just be honest? Listen, we send your ass down because we don't want you to be able to get this money. Right. That's it.

That's period. You know, just dry and cut, save the people the whole we benching them because of this and, oh, you're not playing well. But what? Why even lie? Right. And you got Sean Payton coming out saying, well, anything concerning or due to the, I don't know anything about. I don't know anything about that has to do a contract.

Like, come on, man. What are we doing, man? What are we doing? And I said somebody, I saw a tweet, they said, Russell Wilson to the, I said the Steelers. I said the Steelers. I said, you got Russell Wilson, you have a, he is a perennial playoff quarterback.

He's won the Super Bowl going to the Pittsburgh Steelers that has what? A perennial playoff head coach. A coach that has won Super Bowls. Well, shit, that's a motherfucker Masked in goddamn heaven. You know, in the standard of the Steelers, the excellence in which they

have always upheld for many of years, Super Bowls, why not have Russell come and play quarterback? Well, the Falcons. It makes sense to me. Don't do that. Don't do that to him. Don't do that. I love Drake London, but we talk about

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He gets the double dip for the simple fact. I'm sure he doesn't have a clause where it says, you know, we're going to offset that. So whatever you get somewhere else, we'll take it away from here. So the Patriots. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Don't, don't do him like that. Because now that you nameing teams where everything is on his shoulders, he got to carry everything. Well, he got to carry everything.

Oh, Cho, if you go to Pittsburgh, you got to carry everything. Because you said they're ready to compete for a Super Bowl. So you're saying the quarterback is the missing piece. Is it not? But I'm saying. So let me ask you a question. What's the difference between he and Aaron Rogers? What was going to be on Aaron Rogers' shoulders in the Jets?

Because we said we got a Super Bowl defense. We got Chrisel. We got Garrett Wilson. We got players to go make plays. Right, right, right. We got Breeze Hall. Mm-hmm. Is everything not on his shoulders?

Yeah, but we're talking. Aaron Rogers can shoulder that load. I think Aaron Rogers can shoulder that load. of that low. He's one of the few players. He's one of the best all times. He didn't show him to nothing. It showed it going to be in a sling. Yeah, that, that too. But I just, I just, to me, it just makes much more sense as opposed to the other places. You know, Atlanta, everything is on Russ. Like, he has to do it all. He has to do it all. And then you, who was the other team you said? You said the Patriots. Yeah.

Man, hell, no. What? Hold on. How about this here? What about Minnesota? Justin Jefferson. Madison. Now we're talking. born. Hawkinson. Even though Hawkinson towards ACL, he'll be...

You say Addison already, huh? Yeah, Addison, yeah, you're in Addison. Man, that's a good. Now, now look at you. Now, now you're talking. Now you're talking. Now, I like that. But listen, I also like goddamn picking

to Deontay Johnson and Najee Harris with that defense that the Steelers have. You like him better than Jefferson? Which one you like those better than Jefferson? Deontay Johnson's or picking? Which one you like? Which one you like?

better than Jefferson. So hold on, Justin Jefferson and Addison versus Piggins and Deontay Johnson? It's Justin Jefferson, is Addison, is KJ Osborne also. They got three.

And they got Hawkinson. KJ. KJ. Osborne number 17, right? Yeah, yeah. With the dreads. Boy, that boy, nice, boy.

And they got Hawkins who had like 90 catches before he got injured. He just got hurt, man. Yeah. But he'll be back next year. Yeah. Hey, them boys, nice.

Hey, them boys, nice. So who would you give the A's to? Let's say if Russ had a choice. You go to the Steelers? Minnesota. Minnesota. Because guess what? Wait, but Kirk Cousin is coming back next year.

Kirk Cursons is calling the contract up. He didn't come back. But anyway, check this out, Ocho. Check this out. Ocho. Plus, I get nine games in a dome. Detroit is a dome and I'm a dome. In Pittsburgh, you outside.

In Pittsburgh is weather. Baltimore's weather. Cincinnati is weather. Cleveland's weather. Well, you know, It don't get that bad just the lad the last month. You know, that's football weather. It ain't that bad.

It ain't that bad. My home game, it don't never get bad in the dome. You ever seen the snow in the dome? Rain in the dome? Yeah. Wait a minute. Okay, what's the, that, that, in that division, you got the Vikings. Got the Vikings, Chicago, Lions and the Packers.

I don't, I don't know. Oh, I mean, I mean, I, as, as, you want to deal with Lamar? You want to deal with Lamar? You want to deal with Burma? You want to be... Listen, to me, as a competitor, as a competitor that I am, I would like to be in the AFC North, the toughest, the toughest division in football.

So let me ask you a question. So let me ask you a question. What trophy you get to put on your mind and say, we won the toughest, we won the toughest championship ever? None. I just want to play against the best. That's all. Oh, they got good players.

They got good players in the NFC North. Yeah, they do. They do. I'm just saying, just for me, I'm just, listen, I'm hypothetically speaking. I'm not playing. I'm not a quarterback. I'm just saying I would like to be in.

in the AFC North. I know time to change, times are different now. You can't even play football. They're playing two-hand touch today anyway. But, you know, Minnesota would be a good luck, though. To me, I like what you're saying, but I would prefer and like to see Russ with the Steelers.

And this is coming from a Bengal, unfortunately. Player bonuses. We see players getting their bonuses. We saw Josh Allen, Joe Flacko, D. Hop, some of the other guys, we just picked a few. D.Hop with 61 catches for 939 yards. Hopkins has made 500,000 per yardage. If he reaches 950, that escalates to 750.

If he gets 65 catches, he'll make another quarter of a meal. Joe Mixer with nine total touchdowns, eight rush and one receiver. He needs one more to make a quarter of a million. Like it. I don't have a problem. I don't have a problem with Joe Flacco. Joe Flacco is getting off his couch. You know, he can't make $17, $18, $19 million.

So you put an incentive. okay, you win a game, we'll get your $7,000. You take it to the playoffs, we'll get another deal. D. Hop. D. Hop had to take a pay cut, you know, one year, so let me get some incentives in there. Joe Mixing. Remember Joe Mixing took a big pay cut to stay in Cincinnati.

Okay, Joe, we'll get an opportunity to make some of that money back. Now, Josh Allen, I got a problem with that. What you mean you get a million dollars? You get to the Super Bowl. You win the Super Bowl. Bro, you're making a quarter of a billion. You should do that. Right, right, right, right, right.

If Joe Blackko had that in his con. It is a nice incentive, though. This is a nice incentive. Oh, Cho, you're making a quarter of a billion. What shouldn't you do? You should do all of that. Right. I mean, you got to put it in there.

You got to put it in there. Let me ask you a question then. If I got to put these incentives in there, what am I paying you a quarter of a billion for then? You know what? I think whether they're paying that million dollar incentive anyway, his end goal as a quarterback for the Buffalo bills is to get them that Lombard. That's why I gave you a quarter of a billion

because I believe you can do that. You think I would have gave you a quarter of a billion if I didn't think you could do that? Right. You think they would give a quarter of a million to Trevor Simeon? Why? Because they don't believe you can do that. You think they'll give a quarter of a billion to Zach Wilson.

Why? Yeah. Don't talk about Zach like that. But I'm just saying, oh Joe. I understand. I understand. Oh, baby, thank you. When I was earlier in my career, I had, you know,

I was seventh-round draft thing. So, you know, I had incentives. I had incentives. put in my contract. But once I became, no, once I became what I was, no, I don't need no incentive. I'm supposed to lead the team in receiving. I'm supposed to lead the team in touch catches.

I'm supposed to lead the team in receiving yards. We're supposed to make the playoffs. I believe I'm bad. Right. No, I don't want no 50,000 or 100,000 for making a pro bowl. I'm the best tight into football. I'm supposed to make the pro bowl.

I'm supposed to be first team all pro. Hold on. Hold on. You're saying you don't want the incentive? No. Oh, no, you tripping. No. Oh, hell, no, you tripping.

I need, I want my incentives. Give me my money. I want my incentive. Give me my money. Give me my money. I want my, I want my incentive. Or you want all your money up front. I want my money.

Because all, because all those make the city, because you go take it from somewhere else. You're going to take it. See, you make me think you give me incentives, but you took it out of my base salary anyway. Because I could have got an extra $300,000. You say, well, this is what we'll give you. And then when you make me make me.

me think you, oh, I'm going this, but I'm going to get this. No, you think y'all slick. Yeah, okay, I see where you're going. I see you going. Because they are, they are pulling it from somewhere else trying to pretend like it's extra money. Extra. It's my money to begin with. Yeah, okay. I got you. I got you. I got you. I got you. You're right. You're right. I don't know why I let that slip my mind, not really remembering that if they are giving you incentives,

the incentive of coming from somewhere else coming from what they were already going to pay you any goddamn way. It's like, Ocho, you drop a hundred. $100. I find it. I give you $50 back. Oh, man. I appreciate that, man. Good look it out. It was already your money. I only gave you half of what you were supposed to get anyway. Yeah, you're right. Georgia dominates Florida State in the Orange Bowl 60-point route. Last year, remember in the college football championship game, they beat TCU 65-7. Follow that up with a 63-3 route of Florida.

Florida State. It's also the largest margin of victory of the AP top five opponent by the AP in the pole error. And the poll error goes back to 1936. Yeah. Everybody was complaining. Everybody from Florida State was complaining when they didn't make the playoffs. And obviously

with me not watching as much college football as I should, I really didn't understand it, but I did know that the quarterback was out, the starting quarterback was hurt. Yeah, a lot of guys, a lot of guys set out. The best defense of line and the best wide receiver a couple of the running back. So if all those players that sat out played the day,

would it be a difference? I don't believe they'd be Georgia. I don't believe it. It's probably not 63 to 3. But it would have been a closer game then. They probably lose by 21 and not 60. You think so? Yeah.

But they didn't have that quarterback. The starting quarterback's hurt. Exactly. So they lose by 21, 28. I mean, we'll never know. The committee is the. happiest because the committee says, see, but they say, well, if we,

if we, if we, who knows maybe Michigan is not as talented to Georgia. Maybe all of our players play in the college football player. We'll never know. But the college football committee gets to say, see, told you all they were unworthy. It is what it is, Ocho.

That's crazy. Did you see this, coach? I have one more question. Before we leave, a lot of these players opting out and not want, not willing to play in the bowl game. Like, if you, like, do you have a problem with players doing that that are not day ones?

Not, especially if I got a, if I got a first round grade on me, oh, chart. I understand. You out of there. If you look at Bryce Young. Bryce Young played last year against Kansas State in the Sugar Bowl, and he was the projected number one.

I mean, normally Alabama players, Georgia players. I don't think Brock Bowers. I don't think he played today. Bauer's play today? I don't think he played today. But for the most part, Alabama and Georgia players normally play. I think this is the first time that I didn't see Brock Bowers, because if you look at all those number one picks that they had on the defense over the last two years, those guys all played. Alabama players normally play. But you're going to get a lot of this. So now when you go to 12 teams, now that's more games. At least when you only got 14, there's

only a, you know, you get one chance or two chances, you're going to probably have to play three games. Hmm. So. I mean, that's a good thing. That's a good thing. So they get the teams right. They get it right this time instead of people complaining about we should have made it.

It should have been us. And you get a shalacking like you did today, there's really no argument. And the only argument that those that are Florida State fans can say is, well, look how many people we had out. Right. Right. Right. I agree.

I agree, Ocho. But, you know, the thing is, we'll never know. We'll never know. You see the Ruff, the refs, Roe and Go James' birthday, that stepback three, and they're talking about he had a toe on the line. I saw the, I saw an image, and his toe wasn't on the line. And obviously, if they went back to replay, how could they not, can they, can they reverse that or no?

No, it's over now. It's in the books. Okay, okay, okay. I'm just saying at that, at that time, though. I didn't watch the game. I'm just saying at that time, and you replay it and reverse the call. Yes, they could have said

because if you look at it, Ocho, the moment he let the shot go, the official put two fingers down saying it's a two-pointer because they're thinking he's on the line. They go to the replay. Now, had the replay showed it was... The question in the pool report says, why was James shot with 2.3 second

play ruled a 2-point instead of a 3? The play was ruled a 2-pointer on the goal on the floor, live. After the video reviewed, there was a clear, conclusive evidence to overturn it from a two to a three. That's why it stood as a two point. But it was. His foot was behind the line, Tony. His foot was behind the line.

That's why you have replay. What you mean it wasn't conclusive? You see how confusing basketball is? You see what I mean? Obviously, the foot was behind the line. I saw the replay. I don't even watch the game that much, but I can clearly see it was a three-pointer. Yeah.

I mean, from when he showed it. got it, I was like, man, that's going to be, that's going to be, that's going to be close. The ref cheating. Yeah. The ref cheating. I said it's going to be close. But when they, and when they showed it down and they blew up the angle, his foot was behind the line. Yeah.

They're cheating. That ain't number of Vegas. It's close. I can see. I can see why, I believe had they called it a three on the floor, I believe they'd have said it was a three. I said, like you said, it's not enough of conclusive. It's not definitive. So you know what?

We're going to go with the call that we called on the floor. So I thought we were going to go to overtime because last year on his birthday, he had a monster game against Atlanta. But hey, still happy 39th birthday, LeBron. You go James, as I referred to you as, having an unbelievable season. Again. Again. Hey, I told you about a story where I played, uh, played in one-on-one when he's with the heat.

And you beat it? Yeah. No. He told you? No. Yeah, you got, I mean. I wasn't, I wasn't for to put it in your documentary. I'm waiting for you to put in your documentary.

Now, I ain't going to do all that because I really, I really ain't supposed to. I wasn't supposed to tell nobody. But, I mean, obviously what you did. This is about sharing stories. I just thought I would share a story about when I was being. When you were in high school, that's why you had no women because you go kiss and tell. Mm-hmm. I can tell you.

You. Look at who? You ain't had no women in high school because I was focused on playing football in my grades, in my books. You go kiss and tell? Nah. How are you going to be mad because I'd be LeBron one-on-one?

No, I'm bad because you told me you weren't supposed to tell nobody. That's what you, the girl said. The girl said I wasn't supposed to show the footage. I didn't show the footage, so I just tell me what happened. That's what I'm saying, you told. See, the girl said, oh, I'm going to do this this time because I don't normally do this.

Don't tell nobody. Okay. And what you do? Soon do you do that? You go tell the homies. I don't go tell nobody. I ain't had no homies back then. Oh, just told me!

All my homie was, well, you, you ain't my homie, we partners. But you were supposed to, some things, look here, some things are supposed to be between you and the 10th. Nobody said, I wasn't supposed to tell you. I mean, it's okay. I know, I know you like LeBron.

I beat him, that's it. I beat him. There's nothing. I mean, he's degrading. You say you weren't supposed to tell nobody. I ain't, I said that? Yeah. But it's his birthday.

Why wouldn't I let people know? I beat him one-on-one. Why wouldn't I tell you that? That's a great story. Something. That's a great story. The chat, the chat would love to hear that. You know what?

I could tell you what happened. I could tell you how I scored every time. My grandfather was right. You know what he said, Ocho? What? Two people can keep a secret, but one of them needs to be dead. Who said that? My crap.

I like, hold on. Hold on. I like that. Two people can keep a secret, but one of them needs to be dead. Two people can be secret, but one of them needs to be dead. I like that. A fan question. Alexander said, Shannon, you yourself on Twitter

said the receiver didn't line up over the ball. I said that, but I'm not an official. He didn't throw the flag on the receiver. Right. It doesn't matter what I said. I say a lot of things. And I'm right a lot of times. But the official didn't throw the flag.

He said it was an illegal touching. They could have said we have two files on the offense. We have an illegal. formation, the wire receiver didn't cover up the lineman, and we have an illegal

touching by the lineman. That's what could have happened. But they didn't do that. And we've seen it. We've seen them throw two flags, three flags on the defense. We have an off-sides on the defense. That penalty is declined. We have a holding by the defense.

That penalty is also declined. We have a personal file roughly in the quarterback on the defense. That penalty is accepted. 15 yards, first down. That's all the officials had to do. We have two files on the defense. One, we have an illegal formation. Two, we have illegal touching. Also on the offense. The only threw one flag. Okay. Hopefully I cleared that up for you, Alexander. H. E.D said, Uncan Ocho, love the show. I'm a die-hard Cowboys fan. I'll take the W.

But do y'all think these rules should be held accountable for the horrible cause like the players are for hits? Yes. Yes. It's ridiculous at this point. But again, everything is enforced by the committee. Then you got to think when one coach complains about one thing or a competition committee installs certain rules or certain things that you have to watch and abide by. and then one coach complains about holding or they send videos in, then it ramps everything up.

Then the refs get overly, overly zealous with all the goddamn calls. Yeah. To the point where the game is to the point where in a minute they're going to be playing two-hand touch. I promise you in a minute they're going to be playing two-hand touch because you can't hit nobody. You can't hit the receivers. You can't touch the quarterback. The running backs are getting fine for actually running the football. You're supposed to run the football

And it's a contact sport Oh, you can't lower your head So I'm just supposed to How you're supposed to run up, right? That makes no sense Supposed to run behind your path Yeah, y'all will lower my head. Man, it's, dude,

listen, I love the game of football. I love that the fact that they're trying to protect the players, but we're doing too much To where we're losing the true definition with the game of football is, especially at the highest level.

Well, I just think the thing is the NFL just so cheap. These guys have regular jobs. They're not full-time officials. Wait, for real? No. They have regular jobs. They're bankers, their lawyers, their doctors, they have different, they have all, you know, financial. So they like the plan.

There's a side job. Yeah. They move like. They're not like MLB. They're not like basketball that they do that full time. This is not their full-time job. Now, they do supposedly when you have so many blown calls, Obviously, they're going to move you down or you won't get the playoffs games.

You don't get the Super Bowl, things of that nature. But, hey, we need to know who y'all docked. Y'all let the players know. I mean, the fans know who got fined. You can't do that. We might not even see the hit, but y'all still find them and they find out. So I want to know who had a bad call, who got a bad grade. I mean, we know who the bad grades are, but I don't think they would expose the referees like that.

They have to deal with the fans, the fans heckling. Hey, what's the famous NBA ref? I know about him. The famous NBA ref who always go at it with Chris Paul. Oh, oh, Scott Foster. Hey, hey, them two need a documentary together, man. They always going at it. They're funny.

They are. Huh? Hey, remember back in the days when all the NFL players, used to have regular jobs, Unk? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I do. Yeah, they weren't making no money. They got jobs in the offseason.

Yeah, that's crazy. So basically, he said, Allen is saying, the lions are lying. What? Yeah, he said 70 because 70 reported as eligible, and he was covered up on the line of scrimmage. That makes it an illegal formation.

So number 70 is in an illegal position because he covered up by, he's covered up by rule and 68 catches the passes, which is also illegal. So something ain't right. Something ain't right. I mean, we'll never know because.

They need to go back to the rule. Somebody need to go back to the rule book. Well, he said 70 reported is eligible. 70 said he didn't say an F in word. Right. So that's a classic plausible deniability. He said he said. Mm-hmm.

So, and you know the NFL is going to side with the official because that makes them look terrible if every time. Right. I am underscore tough said, first off, happy new years to uncanocho. This is TJ from Cincinnati. Do y'all think. That's who's Mazada? No. TJ.

He says, do y'all think sports betting changed the game forever? The Lions won that game. No. They've always bet on sports. They've always bet on sports. They was bed before it was legal. What the NFL found a way is the benefit. Let's get in bed with Fandu.

Let's get in bed with Draft Kings. Let's getting bad with ESP and bad. So it's just like alcohol. Once the government found out, states found out of the way, hold on. You mean to tell me we can tax it? Okay. You don't need the bootlegged. What do they do with marijuana?

Once they found out they can tax it. We don't need to alcohol marijuana. At the end of the day, especially the NFL, obviously you know what the bottom line, the bottom line is always about making the dollar. The bottom line is always about making money. So when they figured out a way where they can monetize, especially gambling, okay, we can get a piece. It's all about money at the end of the day.

And you think, wait until they allow a player to smoke weed when they figure out a way to monetize that. They did that. They just haven't figured. Oh, Cho, they let the player smoke weeds. Now the nanograms, they lowered the nanogram. So you see what y'all did? see what the players did.

They thought the NFL, the owners really cared about them smoking weed. They didn't give a damn. They tell you what they didn't give up, guaranteed contracts. What they did also didn't give up, lifetime health benefits. You see, you waste your time bargaining for petty privileges. Now, Roger Goodale said when he signed his contract, he wanted lifetime health benefits. So you mean to tell me the commissioner ain't never took a hit, ain't never had a concussion. He won't lifetime benefit, but you want to be able to smoke weed in your off time.

You see how they did that? Wait, they passed that they can smoke weed? Yeah, they lowered the nanograms. Because you know it used to be you had a, you had a threshold. They lowered that. You got, we smoke a little weed. We don't care. But I tell you what we're not going to give you.

Keep your eye on the ball, Ocho. Keep your eye on your luggage in case something transpires. Hmm. You bargaining for petty privileges. You don't want to practice, Ocho. I don't want to practice twice a day. I want to have meetings. Okay.

see they don't want to practice. They ain't mention nothing about no lifetime benefits. Keep a keep it going. Right, right, right. They want to smoke a little weed. Oh, yeah, we'll let y'all smoke some weed. They ain't mentioned nothing by no guarantee money. They ain't mentioned nothing about no, uh, uh, uh, franchise tag.

You see what they did, don't you? Yeah, I see. I see, I see, I see a little bit of the players. Weed, you mean to tell me you would rather not have a guaranteed contract than to smoke weed. You mean to tell me, you would rather not have lifetime benefits as opposed to practice twice a day. Really? That's a crazy fight, though.

That's a crazy fight. When you think about it, guaranteed contracts would be a crazy fight, and that's one where we just talked about where everybody got to be on the same page

and willing to sit the fuck out if necessary. They got on the same page for smoking weed, didn't it? They got on the same page about smoking, about practice. I think everybody was on the same page

about smoking weed because I think so many people do it. You have a smoke weed? I don't mean to be in your personal business. You ever smoke weed before? I don't need no weed. But I tell you what, Ocho, even if I smoked

if I smoked the ounce, two ounces of the day, right, right. You'll be to tell me you're going to give me my whole contract, so I signed a $50 million contract. Right. And I ate, and I'm going to get all $50 million of that, and I just couldn't smoke weed between this time. Yeah. What type of food you think I am? That's easy, though.

Thank you. That's easy. I mean, you know what? I really can't answer that because it's hard for me to It's easy for me to say, oh, it's easy not to do something when I, when I've never done it. That's like I said, where it's hard for me not to drink alcohol. Well, shit, you pay me 50 million not to drink? Why, I already don't drink, so it's easy. Guess what?

But what about the people that have a problem that can't stop from smoking weed? Okay. Guys like to go out. Why they don't go out night before the game? Well, you can't. You get in trouble. You can't. You absolutely can.

Oh, you can get in trouble. You get in trouble for smoking weed, you see? Guys do what they want to do. Right. If what's important to you? You see, to get to the NFL, a lot of guys had to deny themselves. Deny their friends, deny things that they really like to do because what was most important. Right.

Get into the league. You see, it's really, it's not that complicated, though, Joe. And I get it. Oh, you should be able to smoke weed. Okay, smoke weed. You can do all the stuff that you want to do once I get all the people money. If I'm in the NBA, I'm in the major leagues, I'm in the NFL. whatever they say I can't do

I'm gonna wait until I get all your money I'm gonna get 300 400 500 million just think about that show hey Holtani got a 700 million dollar contract and the only thing he got to do he can't smoke no weed for like two months y'all see how dumb that sound people in the chat

but y'all quick to hollop let that man do what they want to do let him live his life right honest I don't know I really can't even and talk really speak on that subject when it comes of weed or alcohol or any of the paraphernalia or the fun things that people like to add in their life

because I don't I'm kind of lame in that sense but it's something about even when I played it's something about weed where everybody was doing it it seemed everybody I don't know if they had to do it I don't know if they were addicted to it or just part of maybe a stress reliever whatever they just got a sense of piece from it yeah but I'm oh I mean I mean to each is on

yeah yeah But for me, for me, I would rather have all of us have lifetime health benefits. Right, yeah, most definitely. Because everybody ain't going to make $100 million. Everybody ain't going to make $200 million. The average, the average length, most players aren't going to get vested. Yeah. And the ones that get vested, they're not making no $70, $80 million.

Right. But they don't took that pounding. So they're going to have the ramifications and the repercussions for players. for playing six years, seven years in the NFL. Without the benefits of a guy. For me, oh, Joe, yeah, I play 14 years. I got, but the best thing about it, I did good with my money. Everybody's not going to be financially responsible,

just like any occupation. Somebody might work at a job for 20 years and be less responsible than somebody. Everybody's not going to have the same responsibility. Okay, we get that. But I was in a situation. I mean, hips are about 104,000 each. Hmm.

Damn. Yeah. Boy, $104,000 for a hip. For a hip. Hey, boy, somebody wanted to rob you. All they got to do is come take your hip, boy. That shit. Hey, let me get that hip up off you, baby.

You see that scar? Come on. Oh. But you got to put a tattoo over that, man. Both sides. Look at that, Ocho. Hey, up you got to get, you got to get a tattoo over that, man. That's fine over there.

Huh? By the time, hey, by the time they see that, oh, show, it's too late. Hey, it's too late. There's too late. It's too late. It's going down. It's going down, down. You know what I'm saying, Ocho?

Uh-uh, you don't got too late. If you can see this car, it's too late. Who, there it is. Damn, Joe, it's too late. Hey. You shout out, man. You shout out. God damn, man.

104,000 for hit replacement. Yeah, yeah. Boy, you got that, boy, you got that money, man. Shit. Oh, so, I mean, what price would you play? How much would you be willing to pay for quality of life? Hmm. You know what?

You know, I'm the wrong person to ask that because you look, you look, you look, I got a pretty penny, but I don't live the quality, the quality of life that I should. I live way below my meaning. Oh, Cho, what I'm seeing who you missing the point. So you think I'm saying in exuberance. But if you had to pay to not be in pain, what would you pay? Oh, yeah.

No, yeah, not be talking. Now, when you put it that way. Yes, that's what I'm talking about. No, I'm not talking about living extravagant. I'm talking about you're not in pain. Okay, okay, okay, okay. When you walk, you're not in pain. When you sit, you're not in pain.

in pain. When you sleep, you're not in pain. When you're staying, you're not in pain. Let me, let me explain something else to you. Just, just small, small. Stay with me real quick, man. You know, my terminology and my fight and my mantra while we talk about Ocho versus science. Yeah. Right. And you know what I believe in as far as my nutrition and I, and the feeling that you can eat whatever you want as long as you train. And my whole feeling that is eating a certain way, you have to build a callous within the body. to calcify the bones, you know, as you're growing up, blah, blah, blah. So I'm thinking of the fact that I've never been injured before.

I've never been injured before. And I think if you hadn't of, if you had eaten my way when you were playing, I think you would be fine. It's her redatory. My sister's about to get both of her hips replaced. She ain't up played football. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Stay with me.

What? The food, the intake, what you consume would have helped you. She hog ball, pig tail, chitland, raccoon. Still to this day, turtle, goat. So is hereditary? My brother got his replaced. My brother was in his late 30s when he got his replaced. Sterling 2?

Yep. Damn. Okay. All right. All right. You know. I lost this one. I lost this one.

Yeah, you did. My dad died at 39 of cancer. He had two brothers. Didn't make it a 50. Damn. I have an aunt died at 47. I only had one uncle make it to the age of 70. My grandfather died in 57.

Had an uncle died at 57. One died at 60, 60. one died at 64 on both sides. It don't matter. It's the one appointment that you cannot cancel or reschedule. When he called, when he put your, when he writes your name down,

you got to take that appointment. You got to go. I like that. That's the one appointment. I like that. And it does not matter. I read the story that said the king, he said when he died,

he said he wanted to summons all the greatest doctors in the city. And they ask him and say, why do you want to summon the greatest darkness to carry your casket? He said, because I want the world to see. Even the best medicine cannot save you. When is your time?

He said, you know what? All this money, I'm the richest man in the city. He said, spread it around. They say, well, why do you want him to spread all your money? He said, because you cannot take any of it with you. Yeah, I like that. When he write your name down in that book? You coming. The time to go?

You come on. You can't. At all. That's another, you know what? I like that. And people always talk about, oh, this can kill you, that could kill you. And I always tell people, you know, when you're born, you got to leave here. You got to expiration date. The expiration date is, it's already set. Yeah. It's already set. There's really nothing you can do where you can change when it's time to go. And if you think you, if you think you can, you're a fool. That's just how I feel. All right, other people might feel the different way. is they can control when it's time to go. You know if I eat this, maybe I'll live longer. I mean, sure. Shit. If that's not what in his plan, guess what?

When that not, when that, when that not, when that not come and it's time to go? You write your name down the book. I don't care what I don't care what these salad, kale, rice cakes. Maybe it's time to go. Mr. Jackson 2002 said, I'm a Cowboys, but Mike McCarthy game management. but yes, because his game management

always, you got Dak throwing the ball, stop at the clock. Come on, Ocho. Make them burn them timeouts. Right, right, right, right. Learn to pay better situational football. And this was the perfect time to practice it. Perfect time to practice it.

It's going to bite them. It's going to buy them. He thinks he's slick. Oh, I'm aggressive. I got the utmost confidence. We'll be having this conversation. Yeah. True Infamous 73 asks, which one deserves an extension?

No, Michael, CD. Neither one I'm deserving. They earned it. And you go out to pay the Piper. Yeah. You have to pay. They definitely earned it.

Now, I'm going to tell you, Mike ain't give you no hometown discount. CD might. Oh, no, no. Oh, no, no, no. She, C.D. Mike gave who a discount? He might. He might.

You know, he wants to be there. I'm telling you, Mike ain't given no discount. Not at all. Because here's the thing. You see, Ocho? Ocho. Just think about it.

And Russ is a prime example. think about all those hometown discounts Tom Brady gave the New England Patriots and when he came down to it and he wanted some more money, they said no. So for Tom got his first contract, they redid Tom's contract

after he won that Super Bowl. They redid it. And I think they redid it again in 2005. And all the years that he gave him discount after discount after discount after discount. You know what? And Tom's situation was a little different though. because Tom was so fortunate

for one to have I'm not even going to be obviously to be married to be married to a woman making three times more than him. He was also blessed to be making a shit ton of money off the field. So being able to give the Patriots a hometown

So why the Patriots pocket watch it? So let me ask you a question. We say why they what? Pocket watch it. But here's the thing. Now, now, now, one time. So let me ask you a question. How many times you think the league gave these networks a discount? Oh, they can't. Oh, they don't play that. Oh. If you notice,

you know, oh, Joe, the NFL, they're the only, they're the only company. They don't write checks. They only deposit. Oh, yeah. You're right about that. They deposit. They deposit. Right. The only. All they do is deposit. You right. Now, not one time they say, you know what, CBS, y'all was the first network with us, the broadcast us. You know what, we're going to get your discount. Hey, ESPN, y'all, you know what? Y'all talk football. No other than the other networks, they don't really talk football year-round like you do.

So ESPN, we're going to give y'all a discount. Right. And NBC, you know what? Y'all got out, got back in, we really appreciate that. We're going to give y'all a discount. You know what Amazon? Y'all deliver a package. And y'all makes sure y'all get Amazon Prime and y'all make sure we get our packages on time.

We're going to give y'all a discount. The NFL don't give nobody a discount on nothing, not sponsors, not advertisers. Right. But from a football standpoint, the discount that Tom was giving is the reason they were able to win so many Super Bowls because they were able to build the pieces around them

to be able to do what they did. So when that man said, you know what, I don't want to take another discount. I think it's time for y'all to break bread. You would have thanked out for all the year, all the money that they didn't say no other year. It would have been a no-brainer.

It would have been a no-brainer. but obviously the head man over there had a problem with it because he was ready to move on. Right. The owner was fine. But the head man in charge had a problem with it and was ready to move on. He was. He was.

Michael's going to break the bank. CD's going to want he's going to want Tyreeks money. Tyreeks does 30, 30, 31 meal. He got 72 guaranteed. So he's going to reset the market. for the receiver position. He should. And then Justin Jefferson probably coming right behind him to reset it,

reset it again. Yes. Yes. And then wait a minute. Then we still have Chase. Chase is going to have to come along and have to fall somewhere in the same case. He said, I ain't falling nowhere. He said, I'm falling up. Yeah.

He said, I'm falling up. And you know, you got Mike Evans. Mike Evans says, hey, my contract completely up. I want to break. Somebody break bread with me. And they're going to give it. him to him too. I'm not sure where he's going to go. I'm trying to think a good

place for Mike Evans to go. That's a good question. You know, you would want Tampa Bay to do it, but Tampa Bay, if they were going to do it, they would have done it already. Yeah. They would have done it right. You wouldn't even let him get to this point this far. And in the con, you would have wanted, especially what he's been able to accomplish. His body of work has been

phenomenal throughout his entire career. But it's crazy how to do you when you hit 30 31, huh? Oh, yeah, for sure. Well, it's crazy. The business is a dirty game. Look, I ain't got no problem. If you say with Shannon, we need you to take a pay cut. Okay, fine.

But can I cut my production too? Now, see, they want you to make them same place. And people at home, y'all, y'all, this is what I want you to do. Your boss said, you know what, we're going to cut your pay. But we still want you to work 40 hours and plus another 10 overtime. But we're going to cut your pay. So I'm going to give it to you something that you can. explain because every time I say something, you always want to tell you, would that still a lot of money?

So I'm putting it in your, I'm going to put it in your realm. I don't know how much you make. Your boss comes to you and says, we're going to cut your pain, but we want you to still give us those 40 hours plus the 10 hours a week. How are you feeling about that? So I ain't put it in millions. I ain't talking about an NFL player. I'm not talking about an NBA player.

I'm talking about the person that works a nine to five. Your boss comes to you. He tells you he wants to cut your pay. 10, 30, up to 50%. And your hours. No, no, no, no. You got to work the same hours because, see, when they cut your pay, they still want you to give them that same production.

Oh, no. Oh, no. I don't even like the way that sound. So let me ask you a question, Ocho. When they cut these guys pay, you think they want them to produce less? Or they wanted to produce the same they did as when they were making the They want the same production now. Okay.

So I'm going to cut the average person. The fans don't understand until you put it in their terminology where they can understand it a little better. I put it in their terminology. Right. Your boss comes to you and he's going to cut your pay by up to 60% but he wants you to work the same hours for 60% less pay. How are you feeling about that? Uh-uh.

You better than me. but you know at times you know when you get you get to a certain point of your career where that that price tag on you is very high and they need they want they want to bring it on down and you know you know okay you're not at the end of the road you know you can still keep going oh cho you move you just move oh cho that's why i'm going to get my money because i know that day going to come because here's the thing ocho there's a reason why certain companies don't give you discounts because once you give a discount what's the expectation a discount. Yeah. Well, the first thing. And we, you know, we, we the discount came. Hey, hey, let you get your boy that hook up. Yeah.

Once you start with that, Ocho, where do you go? Yeah. See, if I give you a, if I give you a discount of the five-star hotel, guess what? Every time you come, you're going to want a discount. You're never going to want to pay the full price. Right. Or what I have to do is that I have to mark it up for more than what I won't. and say, okay, I give you the discount,

but this is the price I wanted to say, you should get you the room for all the time anyway. Yeah. Yep. That would they do with Black Friday? They mark the prices way up. It's a slash 20%, 30%. And it'd be the regular price.

It'd be the regular price anyway. Boy, it's a dirty game, man. It is. It's a dirty game. Okay, don't Joe. They say, what is the problem with Dallas? Why are they so inconsistent? Is it coaching or on-field personnel?

Look, Mike McCarthy is going to have to prove him. himself because he did win a lot of games, but he had two guys that's on the, I mean, he got two guys that won seven MVP's this many. Aaron Rod, now, although he did not coach Brett Farb doing those MVP seasons, Brett Farb has no MVP's on his resume. He's the last guy to win three consecutive MVPs. Aaron Rogers has four under Mike McCarthy. So he's going to have to prove that it was, is his,

coaching and not those guys. But you would like to think you'd have more than one MVP with some guys that were seven MVP's. You would think, Ocho. I'm just saying, maybe it's me. Yeah. You never know. Especially at that position.

Yeah. I think this might be the year, though. This might be this might be the year for the Cowboys as long as, the consistent player quarterback, the receiver play, and the situational awareness from the coaching. Yeah. Situational awareness from the coaching,

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Malcolm Heaton, Heiden, Heading, donated $50.000. As a skill player, do you have a problem with the quarterbacks avoiding hits when they're the opportunity to make big throws? Or do you understand? It takes a special type of quarterback. just sit stay in that pocket to look down that gun barrel and don't don't care and to take one right here now that's easy to say at home but i've been hit right here just like i'm saying it takes a special

type of receiver to know that safety going to drop that thunder on you yeah and make it feel like trees falling on your head and you go catch it now it's either i mean you might do it once but al davis had a famous say say rest is so al the quarterback must go down and he must go down hard and it needs to happen in one of early in the first couple of possessions of the game. Mm-hmm. That's what I want to do. I want to send the message.

You see, football in its, in it, football in its true meaning was about intimidation. Yeah. You were actually trying to break a man's spirit. You're trying to break his will. Yeah. They kind of, you see guys, not guys,

like I said, Ocho, we take it. Guys take his selfies going across the mirror or the middle. Catching them all with one hand. Got a selfie. Yeah. The quarterback, oh, the quarterback just throwing, he just changing arm angles. He's doing all these hair. Hey, they're throwing no, no.

Ocho, they wouldn't even look at the receiver. They're like, take that with you. Different. Times it different. Yes. Yes. But I, look, it takes a special type of quarterback to know somebody's going to put their helmet right here. And even though it's going to be a 15-yard penalty, man, you don't want to take too many of those.

because, you know, people ask, they say, well, Shannon, what's it like to play in the NFL? And the way I explained, I say, go get you a thin jacket, go get you a medium-sized jacket, and go to Lowe's a Home Depot and get your hard hat. And I want you to lie up anywhere between five and ten yards from your garage, and I want you to run into it 65 times. Damn. That's why I want you to do a 10 yards. I ain't say, I ain't say do it like kickoff when you line it up for 30 or 40 yards.

Oh, like the wedge. Okay, okay, okay. That's what those lit collisions are. That's what it feel like. That's what you do it. Now, I want you to do that for 17 weeks. I'm going to give you a buy. Take a week off.

Take your buy week from running into the wall in the garage anytime you want to. Take it off whenever you want to. You can go, hey, but then you got to do it. Now, what they don't do is that we used to hear when I had Dan Reeves. We hit in practice. We hit in training camp. Right. And I ain't talking about no thud up.

We put mofos on the ground. Yeah. We had certain days like that. We put it on the ground. That's what you want to know what it's like? Don't do 10 because 10 my five yards. Just line up five yards from your garage and run into it. You know what, 65 times?

You know what? Just do it. Because the offensive line, but they hit on every plate. So what position you want to play? Malcolm, what position you want to play? You want to play running back? Do it 20 times. C.D. Lamb caught the ball.

C.D. Lamb caught the ball. time. So you just tell me the position. Because if you're an offensive lineman and you're a defensive lineman, you're hitting on every plate. Yeah. A running back, do it 20 times. Oh, snap. Speaking of football and hitting.

You did, do y'all head, y'all did hamburger drills? When we was growing up, you're talking about like Bull in the ring, Oklahoma? Like, yeah, Oklahoma. Yeah. But we did it, we did it in the NFL. I can't remember the name. I can't remember the name of it. it would be the office of linemen, offensive alignment, quarterback and running back.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Then receivers and dbs. We'd have ours. Ours was more so just blocking. Yeah. Not blocking with the running back. Absolutely.

Yeah. Okay. We got Oklahoma. Okay, okay. Oklahoma drill. I like Oklahoma drills. Yeah. I like Oklahoma drills.

Yeah. Bull in the ring where you know you're in the middle of the ring and coach called out a number. And they come charging that. Yeah, I remember that. Oh, yeah, but sure, absolutely. And then, in training camp, you get the nine on seven.

Well, we had no receiver. So, if it's nine on seven, what the hell you think we're going to do? The defense, the linebacker, the D line, no, ain't no threat of no goddamn past. It's all running. Yeah. And it doesn't got to set up.

You got to run in this area. I'm like, bro. I mean, can we have, I mean, in the game, I mean, There is a threat of a pass, nine on seven. Ain't no passing. It's just man on man. Yeah.

Money and mono. They know what you're going to do. You know they know what you're going to do. And you still got to go get it done. Every time. That's why when we got in four minutes, you know we're going to run this ball. Oh, move it. You hear me say it all the time.

Moving a man against his will. His will. Hey, y'all ran that stretch plate over. and over and over and over and over. The Broncos and the coast with that damn stress play, man, with Evan Jane and to die. Like, God. Hand off strong toss week.

What are you going to do? Stop it. We don't get you up out of here. You fit to move. You fit to get up out of here. Right. You go, hey, they started out talking, Ocho. Nothing today, you know, the first player is, yeah.

You know, Ocho, you got to stop you. You get a one-yard game. Oh, you get no-go. they started with nothing to date. They do it's right here. Nothing. Get that stuff out of here. About the third quarter.

Come on, man. Who gap is this? No, no. No, no. You remember the first and second quarter? You're talking about we weren't going to get nothing? Oh, yeah. When everybody, when everybody fresh, it's a different ball game.

Yes. When them legs get a little tired, you get a little winded. Man. Yeah. I said, whoa. You ain't. Oh, what are that talking? Why are not talking?

I think we were going to get nothing. Right, right, right. How we get nothing and TD got 165 right now. So when did that happen? What did I miss? Boy, TD. TD was the real deal, man. TD was the real deal.

Oh. Him and Port us mastered. Mastered. No, I mean, they were like, even if I left, they had guys that could, you know, because it was TD, and then TD got hurt, Orlando's Gary. and then Orlando's Gary went to Detroit

and then they had Mike Anderson who run Rick here the year and then Mike and then Ruben drones got 12 the porters, porters came and then Ruben drones and then Mike and just just keep going. Hey, hey, running is what we did. We're going to run stopping.

Right. And it was very, very simple. That's why we were able to be successful because it wasn't know all them exotic plays, all these checks. Hey, if you hear John, talking about, hey, all we had was over. That means instead of going left, we go right. Instead of right, we go and left.

All that other stuff, we can do it all this right here. No, we ain't doing that. And we either going from handoffs to toss. We either going from toast to handoff. That's what we do. It's really that simple. Put a hat on a hat if we need to. Normally we're a zone read.

But if we need to put a hat on a hat, oh, you're going to get up out of here. You got to get up out of here. In other words, you ain't paid. Like you getting thrown up out of the club, huh? Hey. You getting up out of there. You ain't paid. You ain't paid in two down.

You got to get up. You got to move off this land, bro. I'm sorry. We're going to get your ass up out of there. Faith donated. Faith just donated, Ocho. Hey, Ocho. Hi, Shannon.

Thanks for sharing. Thank you for sharing. Please know that your scars are a testament to being broke and rebuilt and to serve a divine purpose. Love the scars. evidence of healing. Stay purpose driven. Prayers for your sister and her healing. Yeah, you know, hey, I feel good. Like I said, don't you show them? Oh, you got scars?

Oh, you saw it? Too late. I ain't got, I ain't got no scars, man. I feel like I ain't, I ain't been to no war wounds. Hey, that's good. You don't want them. I would prefer not to have them, but I got them now. So, you know what I'm saying? You know, I say, well, you know what? They need some cocoa butter rubble. They say cocoa butter make a fuel that I tell to make them right nut.

That what they say, I don't know. Okay. You put more cocoa butter on. Listen, when you get you that plus one, she gets in my eyes. She'll rub some of cocoa butter? Yeah, she'll rubble. Make sure you're ready for that wedding in 2025. Baby.

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Uh-oh. You won't get what you're looking for. There, there. After the Huddle said, birthday after tomorrow. Can I get a follow back on Twitter or a shoutout? Second question. Chad, have you thought about a post-career book after the huddle?

Hey, that's a good one. Post- career, post-career book. You know what? I think about it. I think about it. I think about it. You know, I wrote two books while I was playing. One, beginning of my career, one towards the tail end of it, and one to finish it would

be really dope. If I was to write a book, I would want my book to be about financial literacy. I would love my book to be about financial literacy because I'm sick of seeing the stories of us whether it be athletes or where it be regular nine to five nine to five people. I would love to give people my formula on how to save money.

You ain't married. What? Imagine if you were married and she take, hold on, she take half the money and all the hoo-ha. Right. So you have for what you are. But I'm not.

So you got 20 million. Let's just say, for the sake of argument. You got $20 million. Yes, sir. She takes half of that and you still got, as she gets half your pension, and you got to pay child support.

But I'm not going to be in that situation because I'm trying to trap her. It's the other way around. No, I'm just saying. You have to always. I like me saying, but those that put themselves in that situations have to understand the pros and the cons of marriage.

That's a, yes. Oh, Joe. I don't think anybody goes. You can just hear her. What you say? There's Kurt from back there. What's you say? Tell about it.

I am, man, don't get me in trouble in here, man, because I got to deal with that. Don't do that. Oh, Joe, I don't think anybody gets, I don't think anybody goes into a marriage thinking they're going to get divorced. I think the thing is that. You never do. But let's look at statistics. Oh, I'm a firm believer. Oh, we got to get a pre-knuck.

They say, because I tell my home boy, they say, Sean, I ain't got nothing. I say, good. So that boy, when you get a divorce, you get 100% of your nothing. You don't want half of your nothing. I want all of my nothing. So whatever I don't have, I'm going to keep it. Right. And so that's how, that's how I look at it, Ocho.

But yeah, I agree. I mean, I've had a lot of friends that got married and, you know, like I said, I think the thing is that when a person, is in the league. And I can just speak to the NFL because that's what I'm familiar with. That's what I'm around. I think the women are more tolerant.

Oh, going out with your homeboy staying out late at night, that's a problem because you got $5, $7 million coming in. Now all of a sudden, you ain't got that coming in and you don't get to move to the front of the restaurant unless you want to the more big-time names. So now all of a sudden, things that didn't annoy you, it annoys you all of a sudden. And see, sometimes people get married,

you know, if you having, let's just say for the sake of argument, Ocho, you go two years and like, ooh, man, she, hey, she's a bomb. Everything I asked for, man, you know, she let me chill with the boys when I want to. You know, she'll cook a meal. We go out, we have such a great time. You're under the impression that 15 years from now, that's going to be the same way. Oh, no. You have to find another way to make it like that.

So you got to fall, basically, you got to fall in love with her all over again. She has to fall in love with you all over again. Continuously. It's so easy now, the old children, it's so easy now. Man, this ain't working. I'm out. Yeah, yeah, most definitely. Most definitely.

Because, again, social media has made it very, very difficult for a lot of people to remain happy for the lifestyles that they're seeing, especially for the women that they're seeing on Instagram and thinking that that is somewhat of reality. or I'm going to find a guy that's going to provide so I can live like this as well. Really not understanding what comes with the territory with the type of men that you are chasing.

Yeah. It ain't, it ain't. Social media ain't real life, though, Ocho. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not.

Hey, Ocho, I can't go. You can't see me. And then also, hey, let me go to, let me get this wrinkle out of my face. Let me get this wrinkle out my forehead. Let me put more money in my pocket. See, on social media, the women can make their little,

look a certain way, they can ask them. You could be anybody you want. You can be anybody you want to be. It's crazy. It's crazy. Crazy. Crazy. You know, they say, when they see me, they say, oh, you, you, you, you, you, you more handsome in person than on TV.

I said, for real? I ain't know. I ain't, he know. Yeah. I ain't even. Yeah. I can. They say, you, you, you, you're bigger, too.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I get, I get that. I get, I get, I get. They say, oh, fine. They say, oh, fine. I said, really? Yeah. I mean, like, fine, like frog hair?

I mean, what kind of fine am I? Yeah, it's different, different kinds of fine. Yeah, right, right, right, right. Yeah, I don't, I don't really get, I don't really get no compliments like that no more. It just be my baby. She just be praising me. She, you know, you tell me, I, you know, I, you know, I, a little chocolate drops. I need a ask to stop volunteer to take pictures.

And get them, I said, as you want to get the picture, dude. Asch all of a sudden she got to go to the bathroom. Hello, hello. You just don't tell me, talking about the little bathroom. You just don't want to get no pension. But George going to get us, Joe will get us some pitching like we're going to be walking at the airport.

Yeah. She can't know nothing about it. She made sure Jordan is her, she either side by side with Jordan or Jordan is in front. Yeah. Hey, babe. You think I'm fine? We got to get you here.

Where are we? How many people in the chat? Ash. Yeah, she said, my baby said, I'm fine, yo. We got 32,000 in the chat, Ocho. $32,000? 32,000? Hey, that's 32,000 people that know I'm fired.

And we got to get our gold. We got to try to get like 50 tomorrow. Wait. Our record, what's our record? 43 what time? About 44,000 is our record. We got to break our record. That's our goal tomorrow.

You know what? When is, you know, when we're going to break? I'm going to tell you when we're going to break the record. This is when we're going to break it. Watch this. I'm going to tell you when. We're going to break the, oh no. Is there football next Saturday or no?

Yeah, I think there are two games next Saturday. We don't know what games. What's today? Today's Thursday, right? Today's Saturday. Hey, you're talking about Thursday. Wait, wait, I'm tripping. What kind of calendar is this?

What do you mean? It's the one that's been implemented for 2,000 years. Oh, I'm looking at, dude. Dude, I'm still on a 22 calendar. I'm tripping. Yeah, you really tripping. Okay, okay, okay. I think we're going to do that.

We're going to hit that 50. We're going to hit that 50 mark on their air. We were trying, oh, I was trying to try it so hard because, you know, right now, we're at $584,000. We were really trying to get that $600. We're going to hit the $600. Oh, we were trying to hit the $600. Yeah, I was trying to hit it before Monday.

Yeah, you're right. You're right. But, hey, look, we're going to do, we're going to do 200,000 subs in the month December alone. Yeah. Which is nobody, nobody, nobody's doing, did numbers like that. Right. Nobody.

That's crazy. Matter of fact, and remember, when we hit the million subs, I'm going to have my first, my first, um, oh, yeah. Yeah. I'm going to drink the whole bottle. Now, don't do that. Yeah, right to the head. Your family will come together.

Huh? You drink the whole bottle, your family going to come together. What, what, what, we're going on? Nah, you won't know. I think where you going. I know where you going. I'm going up yonder. Don't do that, don't you.

Not the whole bottle. Just a little swing. You know, we go, you know. You can't drink the whole? Yeah. She's back there singing the song you just started. Oh, so alcohol can, or alcohol can you like that? Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Alcohol poison. That's why. See, that's why I don't drink. You just, that's what my mama, that's what my mama passed from. Well, Mama drink like a fish, boy. That's my baby, man.

She probably had a, uh, uh, Hey, boy, I drank like a fish, boy, she only even played. She probably had cirrhosis. Yeah, that's what it said on the, um, what do you call you get from that, the metal examiner, man, what you call it? The autopsy. Yeah, instead of just, instead of just saying alcohol, poison,

you know, they had the big scientific word. I had to Google the shit. I ain't going to say a lot to you. I had the Google. Hell, what? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, but damn, man. Well, we do, hey, Ocho, we do it.

we're doing good. We're doing unbelievable. I mean, considering that we're not even three months, it'll be three, because we started the channel October 8, December 8, December 8th,

so January 8th will be three months and we'll be well past 600,000. Yeah. By January 8th, which is very good. So I want to thank you guys again. Please make sure you hit that like

and click that subscribe button because, like I said, look, this is dope. Ocho and I, we are who we are. You know, we both played the game

at a very high level. We won some games. We lost some games. And we both have some stories. I'm a little older than Ocho. So obviously I have more stories at Ocho. And I probably hung around more old people than Ocho. And, you know, my grandfather would-

I hung around old people too, that. I think the thing is for me is that when my grandfather would take, because the barber shop was like a house. And all the old man was just sitting there and be telling stories. And so, you know, my grandfather always said, hey, I'm dropping these boys off. Y'all don't curse in front of these boys. and they were very respectful because my grandfather would go, you know, sometimes he would go home and, you know, come back and pick us up.

So I would hear all these old men talking and tell all these stories and things like that. And so I was just like a sponge just absorbing it up. And I was like, man, I was just always thinking, I mean, when I get old, you think I'm going to be, I'm going to tell stories like this. I probably, I'm probably going to be with him. And here I am, I'm just like the old man that was sitting on the porch telling all these damn stories. But this is who we are. and we really appreciate you accepting us for who we are. We're not always grammatically correct.

We don't always use the correct, yeah, correct punsy pronunciation and all that stuff. Especially me. I talk so damn fast sometimes. I got to slow down. But what you see is what you get. And I think the thing is it comes, you know we're authentic.

And so we appreciate you accepting us for who we are, how we are, us, you know, like I said, we're the number one basketball podcast on Apple. We're the number two sports podcast on Apple and Spotify. But if y'all think we're satisfied, now we're thankful. Because he heard the thing. People say, you know, you can be grateful and still not be

satisfied. We're very grateful. But, you know, we're coming for that number one spot. Yeah, I need that. I need that. We're coming for that. We're coming for it. I'm not, I'm not sure who's in it. You know, I mean no disrespect to them. But we, oh, okay. I love, I love Travin, Trave and Jason, but I need that.

I love you. You got two brothers coming for it. I need that. We're not biological brothers, but we two brothers. Do we coming? We come in. You know what? Family.

Yeah, we coming from that spot. Hold on. I feel good. Jordan. I'm feeling good. Oh. Hold on. Did I miss something?

Okay. Hey, well, we got damn cheese, brother. It's so good. Logan Black Roberts, as hi, Ocho. Okay, you shout out my husband, Michael Roberts, and my son, Jackson Black. You'll make the, you'll make me the best wife and mom.

Okay, Michael Roberts and Jackson Roberts. Your wife and your mom wants to wish you a happy birthday, and Ocho and I are going to take the time to also wish you a happy birthday. No, we're just going to shout you out. not your birthday. She didn't mention anything about birthday, so it's not your birthday. So Michael Jackson, wife and mom says hello, hello from Unc and Ocho. So thank you. Thank you for listening. We really appreciate that. Cody Newkirk, that La Porte had me feeling like, oh, Ocho. I mean, you, Oto, Oto Cinco, that what they call you. Ocho, Oto Cinco.

Oh, about the toe. Yeah, yeah. Wanted to me from the roota to the to dodo. Yeah, yeah. It's one of the most important things that a man needs to pay attention to that you have ignored all your life. But we're going to get you together. No, but you know what I'm saying? Ocho, I don't want to see. I got to see the top.

I mean, you know, look, do I like women with open-toe shoes? Of course. Of course. And when they got one of the most sun dresses on. You know what those sun dresses, Ocho? Yeah. You know what I'm talking about? Yeah.

Yeah. And one of the most slip dresses. Yes. Boy. I know. You better never let me, if I see what, you better never let me catch on payday. Hold check on. Hold check.

I'm talking about ESPN check, volume check, advertising check, all of them. If she ever let me catch you with one of them dresses on. What about on sun dress and slip dress? Hold on. All your money? You don't spend, you don't name every, the volume. Volume.

Volume. Club Shet, Shay, Shay, H.S.P. Yes. get it all oh we can't have we can't have you we can't listen bad they can't have you

getting all your money away like that let me see those slip no those sun dress who slip man oh cho and when you know when they work and when they work out and the glue's kind of like I mean some of like if the way they're just up and down

like they shaking hand like the like the like a like a like a second yeah Lord have mercy I'm with you when you're right. I got to be careful what I say because you can hear me. Yeah, don't, don't worry about it.

Real, this all be real. Stay with me. Stay with me, baby. It's something about a woman and a sundress. Now, look, when they got them, when they got them shorts on in the gym and they're working out in the little spandex shorts,

I know what you're talking about. But when they got on that old slip dress or that sun dress, man. Listen, I can't get into the conversation like I want to because. But if I, if I was magic, the sun will be out. It would be like Alaska all the time, 23 hours of sunlight.

Ooh. Yeah, man. Yeah. What? I don't think she can hear me, but I know what you're talking about. Yeah, man. One of those sun dresses on, Ocho? Yeah. I caught one about about seven eight years ago told her you cook, I marry you.

Did you shake the covers? What? For dark. Man, she could. Man, she cooking. She's cooking an a Oxtel frying up bacon, sausage

grits What? Hey, you can flat out Hey, that helper could cook. She can cook And I know she's watching. I know she's watching too. And this, see, then this- I know you watching. I'm talking about you.

Yeah. And they see, that is what you need to go back and rekindle with. That is a type of flame. You need to try to light again. Mm-hmm. Because there's something special about that. I'm looking at the passion in which you're explaining the situation and wherever this individual may be. But that's, that's...

Nah, the one is that, uh, she's a... Look. Come on, now. Don't hold back, man. Nah, Ocho, I think the thing is like, look, I think we'll bet on... Let me get comfortable now. We'll be open up. We'll bet off his friends.

And, uh, you know, there was a lot of... There was some animosity in the beginning of the breakup. Okay. But I think over time, for me, I have never had a problem admitting I was wrong. Right. So you was wrong. I was wrong. You take it.

You're good with accountability. Yep. Oh. I commend you. I demand it. I commend. Okay. I demand it.

I demand it. And because I ask others to be accountable. Therefore, I must be accountable. Wait, wait, wait. you asked a woman to take accountability? I do. She. Just because she doesn't

doesn't mean I shouldn't. Okay, okay. I was fin of say it. But now you know, one thing they don't do, they ain't take no accountability and they ain't going to apologize. I can't remember. I can't take the last time.

Damn, man. But I'm sorry. You know what? I messed up. I'm taking all accountability for all actions. Yeah, I was wrong. I was dead wrong. Oh, okay.

So you, okay, I understand. Oh, that's the thing. I mean, so yeah, Ocho, but that was the good old day, man. You know. Hey, sometimes you got, sometimes you got to relive the good old days, though, man. Like your family reunion or your class reunion, you know, sometimes you ain't seen people in 10 years. And once you get back together, you spark something that you never knew,

that you never knew y'all had. I went to the class reunion. I went to my class reunion. I've only been able to go to one. And that was our 10-year reunion. And so in 21, we had our 35th anniversary. And I was, I had, that's why I didn't go to 15, 20, 25, 30, didn't go to 35. But, but, but you know what?

I need to, I need to find me somebody that got a class reunion going up. I'm going to see if people would recognize me. I want to go back and go to theirs. I mean, you know people going to recognize. And they're probably going to say, well, how the hell did you land here? Because, you know, I'm the one to, hey, I'm Moby Dick. I'm the one that they tell you, but you know, the fish, man, I had one bigger than this one. Yeah.

I'm the Moby Dick that got a way to keep getting away. Okay. So when I show up to a class reunion or a family reunion. Yeah. Him, he? Yeah. Yeah. You see what she got on?

She got that sun dress old. That wobble here. Yeah. That's that boy. That's their boy. I got to be careful because I got ears and eyes watching. So you're talking about a toe. So you got them legs.

I mean, you know, it's something about to work our body. It's something about it. Man, you ain't got to, you ain't got to tell me. Boy, you ain't got to tell me, you here? Something about to work our body. Hey, listen.

I'm with you. I'm with you. I'm with you. I know exactly when you're going with it. Man. Yeah. Yeah. What's true.

Hey. I'm looking, I'm trying to spark my memory. Like, yeah. Uh-huh. He didn't say nothing. See? Oh, hey, keep it cute now. Man.

I don't even like my couch. Hey. There was a good old day, though. It was a good old day, though, Joe. Unculture, Jay asked, you guys went to my, yo, went to my sister, gender reveal party today. If I was your son and I didn't want kids or marriage at all, how would you feel?

Some folks asked me about that when I answered them. they looked at me funny. Look, as a matter of fact, happy birthday to KJ. It's my grandson, my first grandson, it's his birthday. Hey, he's a Capricorn.

He's also, it's LeBron's birthday. Happy birthday, Go James. It's Tiger Woods' birthday today. Happy birthday, Tiger. At the end of the day, I'm fortunate I have a grand.

And my oldest daughter, I know she wants kids. my youngest daughter take her to leave it but at the end of the day I'm not fit to force my beliefs off on them now had I had it to do over

I probably had the kids that I got been from one woman but you know like you said Ocho I was being fast I was out there being managed and and things

didn't quite work out like I wanted but at the end of the day at the end of the day, I want my kids to do what's going to make them happy. And if kids make them happy, I mean, it's a great, but like he's saying on Coach, Jay said, he don't know if kids are for him. You got to do what's for you now. Hey, see, people want you to have them kids. They ain't going to take care of them, Keith.

Take care of them. Nah, I ain't going to do that. Ain't going to do that. And you got time. I mean, you know, I mean, my kids are a little older now, So they get to, I remember like, I don't want no kids, you know, but, but I think for the most part, I think my oldest and my son, I think they always wanted kids. My youngest, like, my youngest is like, she, like, really career oriented. And I'm like, okay, babe, you know, you're going to look up and then, you know, at worst case scenario, freeze your eggs.

You can always, you know, if you don't find the right guy, you can always go to a donor. Yeah. But at the end of the day, whatever, whatever I'm going to make them happy. So I'm not here to like, oh, you need to do this or do that. That's not what I'm here for. I'm just here to be a parent. And you ask my advice.

I'm going to give you my advice. But on Coach, Jay, you got to do what's best for you, bro. Because kids ain't cheap. They ain't cheap. And that ain't, and that ain't no 18 year investment. You know, it ain't, you know, my grandfather was like, okay, you got 1830. But your 18th birthday, you got 30 days to get the hill up out of my house.

It ain't like that. No, Bocho. Hey, you, that's a lifetime commitment. That's a lifetime. Because you, you, hey, you dad forever. Mm-hmm. And so with things, they go right, they call it. Hey, money jump, money jump funding.

They call it. Yeah. So, Trevor, hellsper says, Duncan Ocho, love the show and roll time. My wife, Sarah, and I expect my first child to be born in a few days. A boy, Katie. What's the most challenging, rewarding part of being a new parent?

Happy New Year. The most challenging part of being a new parent, obviously I have a one-year-old. So I started fresh, even though I have 84 other kids. I started fresh because I wanted to get that full-time experience as a father. But the one thing that you have to rely on and work on is getting the baby in routine with your schedule. Yes. When you up, keep them up. When you sleep, put them asleep.

And just once the baby gets into that routine, even at early stage, you'll have so much peace. You'll have so much peace. I'm very, very, very, very, very experienced in this area. If you need any, any help, if you need any instructions, I have YouTube tutorials on how to deal with infants, one-year-old, two-year-olds, and three-year-olds. You can check out my YouTube channel on how to deal with kids. And a lot of cocoa melon in Grace's Corner. To see that you would have on creating a life. And to see that that little person is just so dependent on you.

And to know that you want to try to shield it from all the mistakes that you made, realizing that's impossible, but that doesn't stop you from trying. and even when like me and the mom would have a disagreement is like damn I just I just wanted to like be the best that I could I realize I wasn't going to be perfect because at that time football and getting my grandmother out of that situation and having a life for them for the rest of their life. that was really important to me. But, I mean, sometimes I would go and I would see them sleeping and be tempted to wake them up just to hold them. But nah, y'all had been up so much. Hell, now I'm going to let y'all sleep.

Hopefully y'all sleep for about 15 hours. Right. But that's a great feeling. And then the best feeling is, Ocho, is that when they're able to walk and to really understand and can tell you. And their steps. Man.

First steps, a classic. That's a classic moment. And matter of fact, what's the individual name who asked a question? Who's having this first? What's the name? Trevor Hillsborough. Oh, Trevor. Trevor, this is another thing.

I don't mean to be in your personal business. But in the Bible, I'm not going to preach right now, but I'm just going to tell you something real quick that you and your wife need to take heed to in the Bible. So it says that odd numbers are not good and it's bad luck. So as soon as she gives birth, Trevor, you need to get back in there. You need to get back in there and one more child. One more child. Let's have two.

Let's have two and get it out the way now. I'm not sure if you guys even want two kids. It doesn't matter what you won't because the Bible says odd numbers are bad luck. So I need you to get back in there. Have another. Now, I also have an audio book if you have more than one child. So you have my YouTube tutorials

on how to deal with young kids and you also have my audio book. So you know, Google that stuff and I'm here for you if you need help. Again, the key to it, having kids at the young age is getting them on your routine. When you're up, you force them to stay up.

When it's time to sleep, you put them to sleep. But you know, Ocho, it's a job. you don't get paid for. You don't get no holidays. You don't get no vacation. No. It just all work.

Oh, yeah. It's a very thing. Because for the most part, if you're doing your job right, kids going to hate you from the jump. Because, see, my thing was I was never trying to be my kids' friend. You know, oh, that's my friend. My mom's my bed. No, no, no, no, no, no.

Now, once we get to a certain age, yeah. But I established early on, the dynamic ain't going to change. I'm dad, you're the child. And so, but I, it's like once they get to a certain age and they can understand and they can comprehend, that's also a time they be talking crazy. Boy, girl, ooh, woo. Yeah. But had had I tried to raise my kids, like my granted and my mom, that will work with you.

I've been in jail. Yeah. I was definitely. And listen. My grandma was quick. She slapped the taste at your bow.

Mm-hmm. You say some sleep. My grandma got close to you. Mm-hmm. Wow. But it's, Trevor,

good luck. I'm sure you guys prepared. You're back in there. Love previous R&S. Ocho, where can I send my

application just to go out on a date and can you pay for Jenna? Can I pay for dinner? Oh, she's going to pay for it. Yeah. Yeah, listen, listen. There you, you got you one right there now. Yeah. Well, first date needs, I'm going to the seafood tower. I won't lobster. You know what come? I ain't say that. Ah, I ain't. See, you got to worry about me on the, I'm allergic to shellfish.

So, you know, you know what come a lobster. Ben, go ahead. That was classic. That night was classic. That was classic. Jordan Hackley, what's up, Shannon, Chad, big fan of the show. I have a question for you, Ocho. How did you end up in Monica's Everything to Me music video?

Oh, you know, I was a video vixing back in the day. How did that happened? I did a little bit of everything. Yeah, you know, I did a little bit of acting. You know, I did a little amateur, you know what? I mean, that's the whole other story when I was in college. And then it transitioned into being a video vixen. So I'm really well-rounded and very cultured.

So I've really been around the block and done everything, you know, and I consider that a job. It paid me. It paid me a little something in the offseason. And, you know what I'm going to. I enjoyed it. What's happening? Not to cut you off.

Yeah. Man. I should have told that. Man, you know how many people? Oh, Joe, I ain't a lie. Do you know people come up and ask, I mean, I've had women. Yeah. To ask me.

About me? No. Talk about that. You wouldn't let me order no loft on the first date. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a good. That was a great topic. That was the running, the running conversation on Twitter for about being in there two weeks now, two, three weeks.

Man. That was funny, man. even a pilot. I was on a flight. Right. Pilot would be asking me question. I mean,

I'm talking about, I'm talking about, that's one of the, that's probably the question that, I mean, probably the most question that women ask, can I call, can I address you as on?

Can I call you on? They asked me about, about the, about the lobster. And they ask, you really get upset. I mean, you really make your,

your partner to go to another, room to pass gang. Yeah. Absolutely. Boy, them was, then was classic topics. Classic. Zay buried,

Zay buried his brother from Mississippi. Oh, you and Ocho, y'all need to come to Hattiesburg and eat some real Southern cooking. Zane, what y'all putting down? Maybe, you know what, Ocho, maybe we do that. What? Maybe we have a contest.

And, uh, okay, they cook, prepare. They let us see it. and then we picked like four or five winners and we go go sit down and eat with them. I like that. I like that. Well, you say had them cook?

Yeah, they got to cook something. They got to, hey, I didn't see it. I thought you said you don't be eating everybody cooking, though. I don't. I really don't because then I like to see. And you got to see you the whole while. But I don't want to show up to nobody house

and your house dusted like rats riding around and dune buggies. I ain't coming in. You know, I can come in here. I like that. I rather just, I don't know. I don't really, really be eating people cooking like that. I rather just go out. I'd rather just meet up and go out somebody to eat. Yeah, go to a restaurant. And preferably for me, if someone I could smoke my cigar. You eat off a lot of people's plate and you know what I'm talking about. Who? I keep telling you, you cannot sit on the end of a branch and you cannot turn your head all the way around.

You're not an owl. You, you eat off people's plate. No, I don't. you do? Name somebody play. I only ate off, I only be, I'd be eating off one plate for the past four years. Yeah, I ain't talking about that. You ain't four years old, though. So what about the other 30 years that you be eating off people's plate? Actually,

the other 30 years don't even count because the other 30 years got me prepared for the moment I'm in now. No, I see, you be you mean. Oh, I know you're a pro. Maybe I got him, baby. Yeah, I know you a pro at it. Yeah, I'm talking my shit, baby. Yeah. She's in there cheer for me. I mean, I mean, that's this joke with here.

I'm trying, listen, I'm trying to get out the doghouse now. Stay with me, baby. Why are you at the dog house? Oh, for the little comments we were making earlier. I said, you ain't said that. Stalling by, stalled him out. Oh, that's Dibo in there, boy. That's Dibo.

That is Dibo. Yeah, you need to. But I'm just saying, man, I mean, I'm just saying, Ocho, you just need to. call it, man. You just need to stop. I mean, I can't believe that, man. I mean, that's what stopped me. I can't, I'll stop drinking. I mean, because when we grew up, Ocho, we grew

up at a time that, you know, we played on a team. Hey, hey, man, let me get a swig of that. You drank behind somebody. Right. And I just found out, I found out, and there's somebody was talking, I was like, huh? Man, sharp, let me tell you.

Yeah. I say, okay, I'm listening. So now you got my attention. undivided attention. Yeah. I said, you did all that, huh? Yeah. First night? Yeah, man, I just, oh, yeah, okay.

Okay. Okay. Hey, I had my own cook from that point on. Oh, you can't think like that, man. I think like that. But I'm just saying you can think like that. I can. I will.

Okay, you're not living, my aunt. You're alive, but you're alive, but you ain't living. That's your mouth. I don't want to taste nothing that you. You had it. You alive, but you ain't living. I'm living. No, you ain't.

Ocho, not the first, oh, cho. I get it. The first night. What are you waiting for? What are you waiting for? When you want to, when you, that BMW got, that BMW EV, you saw you wanted it, right? Yeah, that they died.

When there was time it to wait a V. Yeah, you like, yeah. Did you test drive it? Did you test drive it first? No. No. You just bought it? I ain't never test drive.

I ain't, I ain't never touched drive a car. I see it. Hold on. So you see it you want it, right? Yeah. But when it comes to a woman, oh, you got a, you got a, you got a wait. Oh, the first night. Oh, it's a big deal.

That's different. Oh, how's it different? That's different. Because it's something you want. That was, I remember with Ray, we're red with a Debo beat up, beat up red. Yeah. And he asked him why they didn't help him when he was behind the house rolling dice. That was different.

That's different. Okay. I got you. I got you. I mean, I'm just saying, O. I'm just saying, Ocho, can we work to war or something? What will we working to? What will we working towards?

Ocho. Unk. We in our 50s, man. We ain't got time to be going through the goddamn rigmarole, you know, the smoking mirrors. Like, what's you trying to do? We grown. Like, listen, Unk, when we... He might not be no good cook.

Teenagers, I understand. Teenagers, you know, your 20s, you know, early 30s. You got time to waste and play that game. But, see, y'all don't ruin it. Faye, y'all don't ruin it. Y'all, y'all, the young boy ruined it. That's the expectation now. I remember women, the women were like,

they were waiting like three or four months for that. Three or four months? What? Yes. Three four months for months. That would need to wait. Nah, you must be, what kind of music you listen to? I'm talking about, look, in my era, that's what I, when I were coming up.

Nah, but they, but there's somebody lying to you. Ain't lying to me. Ain't nobody waiting no goddamn three, four months? Three four months for who? They do, they ain't waiting three, they ain't waiting three, four hours. Because they get into the, they get into it. Today we have a better understanding that all that waiting, it makes no sense. There's no point in doing all that.

If are you, do you want to be with me? Do you want to be here? What's one of the most important things in a union, in any union? But one is financial security and financial stability. And two, will I be able to lay with your ass every goddamn night? If that area is not good, I can't do this. I can't do it. So why I wait for time?

Why I can't wait? Why we can't wait like two weeks a month? Two weeks, a month. Yeah. What's the difference? What's the difference than doing it on the first and doing it on the 30th? I didn't say that we couldn't do it. I'm just saying, do that.

what's the difference why wait a big difference no it ain't first date when you go to the car wash you get your car detail don't you huh

hey I don't get the full certain sometimes I just yeah sometimes I just drive it through you go through the drive through

I stay in the car no no cookies no cookies no cookies I do that I do that what I do no

nah that's how you end up in the group chat no quickies that's how you end up in the group chat they're talking about you no

you can't do that Oh, Cho. Let me ask you a question. And that's, women, y'all need to stop that, too. Oh, it wasn't that good. He ain't working with nothing. Did it go down? Whether he had eight inches or he had a quarter minute.

It happened. They don't matter. Long as long as it happened, huh? So, y'all need to stop that. Y'all get mad and y'all say all kind of hateful, mean things. Uh-huh. Don't do that.

Every time. Just move it alone. Every time. Just move along so, you know, it didn't work out. You know, I thought it was, I thought, you know, he was a nice guy, but it wasn't happened. Y'all go, y'all. See, because men have attached, you know, sexual proudness, and so women try to break that. Can't break my spirits.

Mm. You're right. They didn't break my spirit. They hurt me. We know what happened. Do we know what happened? We are finalizing our Super Bowl plan that needs to know how many nightcap fans

will be in Vegas and would be interested in purchasing tickets to our live show. Hey, going to be in Vegas and we're going to do a live show. So we need to kind of like put this thing together to get the size of the venue

to make sure because we won't. What are we going to do with that? That's why we want to get a gauge of how many people that's going to be in Vegas and would like to come purchasing tickets to the live show. I'm wearing a suit. I don't know about you.

I ain't wearing no suit. I'm wearing a suit. Go ahead. I'm going to have my shirt open. I'm having my shirt open. Have my little chest hair showing. I'm wearing a suit with my good shoes. They expect me to be in a t-shirt and I ain't going to disappoint them.

You're like my t-suit. I'm going to be in a suit. How are you going to be in a t-shirt? That's you dressed. It's 2024. You said I need to grow up. I need you to be in a suit and be presentable for these people in Vegas. It ain't going to happen.

I'm in Vegas. I wear the T-shirt. Wait, do you see the T-shirt I got? But tomorrow, it's a special one. All right. I'm going to wear a T-shirt tomorrow, too. How you jump from, how you jump from Vegas wearing a suit to wear the T-shirt tomorrow? Because we're not even in 2024 yet.

So I really shouldn't be talking about 2024. Yeah, I need to be focused on the work we have to do before 20-23 in. I'm excited. Tanya Redding. Funny thing is, men talk more than women. Some of them do. I ain't a lot to,

Tonya, you're right. You're absolutely right. Some of them talk more, and that's another problem that I got. Y'all quick, oh yeah, man, I used to,

I don't care. So you think because you did that, that's going to prevent me, and I ain't. I ain't got nothing to do with me. All I was. Whatever happened before,

I came in the picture and got nothing to do with me. Let me tell you all something, guys. If you think by telling me the old man, I used to, I used to mess with her, that's going to stop me. All you do it is picking me up and putting me right in front of them. So if you think that's deterred me, that's putting obstacles, speed breakers, walls, barriers, a prison, blah, blah. It ain't. Yeah. If not.

So I don't even want to hit. I don't even know why you're first of all, you're grown and you're talking like you in high school. Yeah. Who do you to know that? I mean, I mean, a lot of guys do that, obviously during these times to deter women from dealing with certain individuals. Yeah. To deter the guy from entertaining a certain woman, you know, by saying or I call it, I think the key is called it throwing salt on someone's name. It's unfortunate.

Obviously, I haven't been in those situations being that I've, um, I, um, I, um, I've been kind of off the market like Boston for a while now. Well, that was bars. You heard that bar? You heard that bar? Yeah. I'm getting ready to get in the battle rap. So I'll be having all type of schemes.

You just have to catch them as we talk. But yeah, yeah, it's a dirty game. It always has been. Yeah, but I don't know. But, oh, Joe, no matter what I do, this is what through my experience. I don't care what another man. says about a man or a woman. If that woman won't that guy, she's going to get him.

I don't care if you say he slept with a thousand women in the last 24 hours. She said, well, I'm about to be a thousand and one. Yep, because he want to know. If he was able to sleep with a thousand, I don't want to know why he was able to. Right. And if you say something about another dude or if you say something about that woman, all he do like, oh, it's just best to keep it to yourself. Mm-hmm.

Keep it to yourself. Curiosity kills the cat. But they, man, they, they deep, they y'all don't get the way. It used to be, it used to be whatever you did, you did. Now, they got to, man, y'all talk too much. All of y'all, men and women, all y'all talk too effing much. Not me. Keep your mouth closed.

Why are you telling? Yeah. Why are you snitching? dry snitching because most of the time ain't nobody even ask you. Dry snitching, unprompted answers. Ain't nobody asked you. Did you know me? Ain't nobody asked you. Did you? Oh, yeah, you know back in the day.

Shut up. Yeah. They made me bad, Ocho. I ain't really lie with you. D.B. said, Shea Ocho, love y'all. I struggle finding a woman through social media. Hasn't work.

Should I just focus on myself? and let one come to me. Whoa, whoa, whoa, how are you struggling finding the woman on social media? Yeah, what I want to know. One, you can go outside. You can find them there. You can find them on social media.

You can find women in church. You can find women at the library. You can find women at the gas station. There's so many places you can find women. I don't find one in the library because I ain't going. That shouldn't. Huh? You can go to library?

No, no. Okay. But I'm talking about buddy. Buddy, buddy, buddy. Women's everywhere. But one you got, it's so easy to find, but it's all about staying within your lane. stay within your salary cap

stay within your financial lane and you'll be fine. All these women on social media, those are what I like to call salary cap casualties. You don't want the problems. You want to stay within and under the cap. Sometimes below the cap. Right now the bangles

are $84 million below the cap. Sometimes you got to go that route to have an efficient team. You know, you Joe Burrow. Get you what it just got released. Yeah. Right down. Get you one that's vulnerable. Yeah, get you one that that's vulnerable.

Dude just left crying. And listen, you ain't got to go for no 10. You don't need a 10. You don't need a 10. You don't need a 10. You know what you need? We need a 6 that when she get dressed up, she's a 7.5 or 8.

That's all you need. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's all you need. Get your 6 when she just, you know, chilling. But when she put her clothes on, she's about a 7, 8 and a half. Boom. You set.

You set. You ain't got to worry about everybody. trying to hollow. I mean, everybody trying to highlight no six. You're comfortable. That's a lot. It all depends. It all depends, Ocho. I can go get a, I guarantee I can go get a woman right now, 500 pounds. And the

mere fact, Shannon Sharp, where's somebody else going to want them? There ain't nobody thinking about them. That's how it's great. You think about this. And I tell the story all the time. My first college girlfriend, I watched the walk across the yard. I told my college roommate at the time, I said, that's going to be my

girlfriend. I'm just going to see how I play out. she walked across from the hall all the way back to locket she walked that was a simple. Ain't nobody said a word. Right. I saw, I was, I was standing,

I was standing in the hall and bathroom. I saw I ran out there. Say, what's your name? You say such and such. I ain't going to call the name, but anybody, say the name,

say the name, huh? Anybody that went to Savannah State didn't know exactly who I'm talking about. Tasha? Okay, go ahead. I said, what's your name? She said,

my name is such and such, but everybody called me this. I said, okay. I said, what you want me to call you? She said, you can call me my nickname. I said, okay. I said, you dating anybody? She said, no.

She said, I'm just, you know, I'm here to, you know, get my, get my, you know, I want to go to school. I want to graduate. You know, we started talking. She said, I got a son. I said, okay. They ain't got no problem. I say, you know, hey, if I, F with you, I got a son too.

You know, I'm like that. Yeah, I'm about it. And you know, hey, you in the dough. You in the dog. Oh, she ain't. She's fine. So I'm saying, hey, ain't nobody. Nobody said nothing.

I walked by in the hall, ain't nobody said a word to her. So the next day, I see in the hall. I see in the hall. So, you know, we start talking. I walk in the class. Oh, wait, did you carry your books?

I ain't carry a book. Oh, Cho, I walk of the class. I see a, I see a walking to the cafeteria. Guys hanging on like a, like a lion's on the wheel to be. God damn. Ain't nobody.

until they saw O'Shea, till they saw a shark with him. Yeah. I say, even some of my teammates. What? The boy tried to double, they tried to back dog you?

Everybody wanted with O'Shea. They tried to back though you, boy? Ocho, you have what you have to understand. I'm big dog. Yeah. I'm the, I'm the 8th in on the campus. Yeah.

I got a 300 Z. I got a brother in the NFL. I'm wearing polo. I'm wearing eyes out. I'm wearing Lee jeans. Yeah. You're that boy. Yeah.

So everybody's trying to beat my time. But, you know, I was using both. I laid a blistering time down. They couldn't touch it. Yeah. Yes, sir. And then, you know, I say, come on, man. So this is what I found out.

The moment they found out, they didn't, ain't nobody talk to her. I watched her. Yeah. I hustler. From the day I saw, I started I hustling. I said, God dang, man. Well, maybe everybody was scared to say something,

but when they saw you say some, so all of a sudden, now they got courage, now they got confidence. Right. No, but that's okay. I said, okay. Hey, so you know what I did, Ocho? I said, hey, won't you come to the game?

She said, I was going to. Wait, did you give you your jersey, though? No. No, no. We didn't have, no, we have. No, no. I said, come to the game. Hey, I put on a mope.

show. Yeah. I put on the show. I put on the show. Yeah, let's go. So Homecoming rolled around. Yeah. I said, my mom coming. My sister, because by that time, we had started dating. So I had to... Hold on. Hold on.

What, she got to meet mama? She got to meet my mom. Now, my mom. At this point in time, my mom had never seen me play. Right. So I go tell coach, I say, hey, coach, my mom coming in the time, blah, blah, blah. Now, I had on drove in the middle of the night, to let my sister see.

Let my sister meet her. You know, my sister, now, you know, my sister's a good judge. So I'm going to let whatever bucks say, that's kind of my measure of state. Because she got a good feel. Right. So she's sitting there. So everybody, so when my mom came, you know, she's sitting next to my mom and my sister, I show my, ah, let's go, boy.

I said, come on with it. I said, come on with it. Yeah. And the thing was, oh, Joe, now, proud of the thing. that nobody, I ain't let nobody drive my car. I ain't never let nobody drive my car. Right, right. So we at practice.

You let her get the whip. Oh, Cho. So check this out. Oh, yeah. She said, uh, she said, uh, let's go. So check this out. Uh, so we had practice. So she got, I said, uh, can you do me a favor? Yeah.

Uh, I said, uh, I got some laundry and I, I, I need it. I need it washed. I need it. Can you do it? She's like, yeah. Well, she went to the laundromat for you? Took everything. Oh, that's the one. Oh, Cho. Check this out.

That's the one. You know how you go to the laundry. And when you come back, all that stuff all folded and... Yeah. She had everything folded, like colors, like whites, whites, lights and darks. If I didn't know better, I thought she worked in retail. Man, she had everything folded. Hey, that's the one, boy.

That is the one boy. You got to go back and get that on. Man, I'm 55. That's the one boy. She had your clothes folded whites, lights, and darks in college. In college. You know what that mean?

But she has structure. That's what you've been missing. That means O'Shea gave a mean one the first time. That would it mean. O'Shea gave a mean one. Yeah, okay. Okay. Hey, listen, I see where you're going. I see where you're going, but I ain't trying, I ain't trying to get in no trouble.

I'm more than a doghouse. But I know what you're talking about. I know. Hey, you part, you part that blue diamond? No, there were no diamonds back then. But I was like a truck on Red Bull all night. Hey. Oh, shit with hell.

I changed him for a hell with the way on now. Bad who, bear me. Oh, shit. I like that. I like that. I like that.

That was the day. That's a good. That's a good story. You got to go find her, man. Ocho, I ain't going to be my, Ocho. To be able to be

between the ages of 19 and 20, 19 and 21, I get $2 million dollars cash money right now. If I could get, if I could just be the age, 19 or 21, the 19 to 21. What would you know now to be able to go back?

Boy. But you know what, a man, because I'm going to have to have a freshman because I ain't got tired to put no legs back together. But I have to have. Oh, Cho.

Ocho! No what I don't now. It's 19 to 21. Yeah. And doc. Oh, my God. Bay. Ocho, boy, back of the day.

Listen, I know what you mean. I know what you mean. Oh, man, that was a good. That's a good story. Rail just donated $400. I'm going to have all the women showing up in Vegas with sundressing. Baby, I love you. Hey, baby, baby sent us, she sent us 400 for a real.

She sent us 400 for a hundred. Damn. Baby. I got, I'm going to have a team. I'm going to have a team with me in Vegas. I'm ready. I got, I got, I got my team.

I got the whole team. She said you're going to need security out there in Vegas. Probably. Oh, yeah. You don't say, listen, boy, during the time, too, and you know how you talk about, you ain't got to worry about nothing. What?

They're giving that money. You're giving that money away? They're going to be there. Oh, definitely they're coming to watch. They're coming to see her live now. Oh, they're coming. Yeah. They ain't going to be no problem.

They ain't going to be no problem. You know, at night they get cold in Vegas. You know, he gets cold. It's going to probably be in like the 60s at night. That's why I'm going to be in the suit. Huh? Which is that? I might have on a fur like one of the Detroit players.

No, I ain't going to have no fur on. But we're going to be inside. We're doing the day. Yeah. Oh, yeah, man, you know, hey, come man, you know when them put them pool part of it. They're going to be having them pool part of their Vegas. But we're going to be busy.

We got to be working. I got to be working. Man, I can't wait, boy. I can't wait either Ojoe we got to go back We got to go back We got to go back You know

Have us a you know Boyd trip Yeah Yeah Wait what we're going We're going to Vegas Okay okay I thought you meant

But they got to be They got to be in the summer Yeah See what I'm talking about What she's like You're trying to get my ass hemmed up man Well you could come

But you got to stay in the room While me and Ocho out Hey We're going to see Rail little shopping spree Where are you go shopping I'm talking about she going to slip some melatonin in my drink I ain't going

Listen I'm going out But wherever we go I'm a euro stepping that thing You hear me Yeah man Hey Were you Euro stepping I don't shoot like step curve from distance

Hey Let's go Let's go Oh man Hey Hey please make sure Oh Where are we at now as you

Subs I think we picked up a couple of thousand. Oh, man, I love this. It's going to be live. We're now, Ocho, at 585,000 subs, which means subscribers.

Make sure you hit that like button. Make sure you hit that subscribe button. Thank you. 585. I think we're, I think we've gained 200,000. Actually, 203,000. We started this on December 1st.

We had 382,000. Right now, we're 580,85,000. So we've gained 203,000 subscribers in one month, actually in 29 days. It's crazy when you think about it. December 31st. So December 1st, remember you, you showed me to December 1st, we're at 382. I appreciate it.

And 12-0. 1 a.m. Okay, so we still got some time. So make sure you hit that like button. Make sure you hit that subscribe button. You can make sure you subscribe to the. the nightcast podcast feed. You can also get the nightcast podcast feed through Club Shayshay.

So as a matter of fact, just go ahead and do both of them. Also, we've pinned Shea by La Portiae at the top of the chat. Please make sure you go ahead and get yourself a bottle or someone that you love. You got New Year's, you got Valentine's Day, President's Day, and St. Patrick's Day. So do yourself a favor and go get yourself or someone you love a special bottle.

Thank you again for joining us. What's the day Sunday? We on tomorrow. You said today's Saturday. Oh, yeah, yeah, we're on. We on, we on tomorrow. Oh, this thing will be on. We on.

We're going to be on when the ball drop on. I don't know about all that, Ocho. Ooh, look at this right here. Ocho, I bet you ain't ever seen these. Uh-huh. If you play for North Carolina Tar Heels, yeah, I would understand that. But I don't understand you actually wearing that. It on powder blue.

You got these right here. Oh. I don't like powder blue like that. I like powder blue. If I'm going to be, I'm going to be. I'm going to start, I'm going to start showing my shoe. Man, don't you show, don't you show them, um, them cookout three thousand you had on the other day.

Hold on. Show my shoes. Man, them basic basics. I mean, I'm a, I'm a basic dude. I live a basic life. So I wear a basic shoe. Man, what them, what them, uh, uh, um, them cook out three.

thousands. These y'all got a buckle and a strap on them. It's just a little fashion. You know, sometimes I like to, I like to, you know, spice it up a little bit, you know. Yeah. So again, thank you for joining us tonight. We really appreciate it. Make sure you hit that like button.

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