The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Nightcap - Jerry Jeudy vs. Steve Smith + Will & Jada's Split

Episode Date: October 13, 2023

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Hello, ladies and gentlemen, thank you for joining us again. This is Nightcap. I'm your favorite thunk, Shannon the Sharp. He's your favorite receiver number 85, Chad, Ocho, Cinco Johnson. Ocho. Yo. She'll feed the Broncos 19 to 8, but seemingly the biggest drama took place before the game. Yeah.

Steve Smith tried to talk to Jerry and Judy about some of the comments that he said before. And he got an opportunity and they asked him, and Smitty, who you know Steve very well, you played you guys with the junior college together. Yes, sir. He said that Judy told him, Ninja, and we know in our community what Ninja mean, I don't know with you. And then during a segment in which Steve Smith, Sr. was talking, Jerry, Judy started dancing and singing behind Smitty.

What's your takeaway from what transpired? before the game. We're going to get into the game. But obviously before the game were transpired, one of the things that I always told you about and one of the things that I have to get better at is being able to navigate and delivering and being critical of players without it becoming personal for them.

And that is something very, very difficult that players in today's game are not really good with, they're not good at taking criticism and being able to use that constructive criticism at time and being able to channel that and allow it to fuel them to go out and perform to the magnitude and to the standard in which we hold them to.

Obviously, some of the things that Steve said didn't sit well with Jerry. So as a player, as a player myself, I kind of understand what Jerry's coming from. And then as being on the other end of the spectrum and knowing what Steve Smith was trying to do and hoping that the words that he used actually fueled Jerry in a positive manner. But obviously, it didn't go that way. And it probably wouldn't go that way for many players when they hear former player talk about them in that way. And knowing Steve and how Steve. is he's a straight he's a straight shooter he's going to tell you like it is based on how he feels

and based on the production that you've done you know to this point with that being said i love jerry i love steve i would like for him to to be able to go out and be maybe the only shining light on that bronco's offense so he doesn't have to deal with the scrutiny but nobody is playing well right now with bronco so why we're sending jerry julie out when everything right now, it seemed like it's singing like the goddamn... That's not what you said earlier. You said Russ was playing well. That's not what

you said just a week. You said Russell Wilson. You tried to argue me that Russell Wilson had played better than to this. Hold on. Just a second. Everybody. I'm talking totality. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no. No, no. No, no, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no, no. No, no. That's the other day, you

that Russell Wilson had performed better than Patrick Mahomes. And then I corrected you. And you said, Russell Wilson had played well. It's the defense that's bad. Now you're saying that Jerry, now nobody is playing well.

So which is, is Russell Wilson playing well or is he doesn't play well? Wait a minute. The team is one and four, right? Yes. The team one and four? Yes. Okay, the team is one and four.

So as a whole, they're not playing well altogether. They're one and five now. Why are we, oh, yeah, they've won and five now. Why are we singling out of them? And then the defense, the defense played well tonight. The defense played well tonight.

It was a two, listen to me now. it was the two-possession game all the way up to the goddamn fourth quarter nine. Yes. They had ample time and ample opportunity to make it a game. And the ref the rest tried to make it a game, obviously towards the end on that non-ruffing the passer. They did that on purpose. Let's make it a game for them. So let me ask you this.

If at one in four, nobody was playing well, why would you trumpeting Russell Wilson's calls? What was that what? Trumpeting Russell's calls. You said Russell Wilson was playing. well. Now to help build your case why Jerry Judy isn't playing well, you said no one is playing well. And so why are we piling on Jerry Judy? I'm talking about we're piling on Jerry Judy when offensively the team in itself is not playing well. We're not, you're not seeing the Russell Wilson we're used to seeing that we saw when he's with the Seahawks. We all know that. But his numbers,

his numbers aren't what they were with the Seahawks, but they're not as bad as we were trying to make it seen if you pull up the goddamn numbers. Russell Wilson was 13 to 22 for 95 yards. He got 37 of those yards on that on that touchdown drive. With one touchdown and two interceptions. So again, now you sure...

Now you talk about tonight game. Now before that, I'm saying before that, they were playing decent football. He was playing decent football. That's not what you said. You just said nobody was playing well. Now you're coming back refraving it, saying they were playing decent. Now, which is it? Well, it's both of them, if you look at it from both

sections, both sides of it. Well, how are you playing? If you're one and four, how are you playing decent? Well, ain't nobody playing as good as we want them to. That's why they're one and four. But that's not what you just said, Ocho. You just said they were playing decent. Decent ain't going to when you know games. You know that, right? Oh, really? Decent ain't going to know games. You know that, right?

Stay same with me. You know that. Decent ain't when you know games. So you think, hold on. Jared Judy was the 15. overall pick. Yeah. Jerry Judy, there are five receivers in that same draft class that have more receiving yards than Jerry Judy's 2,500-203 and nine touchdown.

Justin Jefferson, who was selected after Jerry Judy. T. Higgins, who was selected after Jerry Judy. C.D. Lamb, who was selected after Jerry, Jerry Judy. Brandon Ayuk, who was selected after Jerry Judy. Michael Pittman, Jr., who was selected. after Jerry Judy. All of those guys have more receiving yards, more touchdowns. How about I do you this one?

There were two receivers that were selected in the draft after him. That's been more predicted than Jerry Judy. Jamar Chase, Jalen Waddle, and Armand St. Brown and Devonte Smith are within a hundred yards who were selected in the draft after him of Jerry Judy. And so you're saying, hold on just a second. Okay. Hold on just a second. So you're saying the criticism that Steve Smith said,

the constructive criticism of a guy that has over a thousand catches, a guy that's been to multiple pro woes, one of five guys, if I'm not mistaken, to possess the Triple Crown, lead to league in yards, catches and touchdown in the same calendar season. So you're saying his critique of Jerry Judy is unfair. I said the delivery of the critique was unfair. We missed that part.

We missed that part. We missed that part. Because if it was fair, then Jerry wouldn't, it would be no reason for him to be mad. He's mad for a reason. You just said that the players take the criticism, they don't handle it well. So should he had to deliver for the Amazon Prime?

UPS, FedEx, Standard Mail? How should he have delivered it? And I don't like what you did. Because you just ran out all the people that were drafted before and after him. And look at the team that's your name and that are using the players to their advantages. Look about what you said.

You're naming, your name in Jamar Chase. Well, you name in Justin Jefferson. Well, you name in Jay Lenoado. Well, look at what the team they're doing with them. You do, hold on. You do realize that when teams select the player before these other players are selected, you do realize the expectation is what?

For that player to perform at a level at that or above what said players that were drafted after? You do know how the draft works, right? Right. I do know how it works, right? And you know how production works, right? You know how production works? Yes.

And then targets and being able to produce, you have to be able to put in the position to do that, right? Yes. You have to be able to be put in a position to do that. It don't just happen. It don't just happen by yourself. Yes. Hey, you know what?

Even Claypool, Chase Claypool, who's on this 13. Yeah. In the same draft that Jerry Judy. Yes, sir. Has four more touchdown. Oh, so we try to nickpick. We thought we, we, we talk about trying to nitpick. You just said players don't handle constructive criticism because you said the delivery.

I have a question. Shandy, you know good and well they don't take a well because you are very critical of players and you deliver your message in the way you're going to deliver it and you're not motherfucking change in the way you deliver that message when they're not playing the way they should based on the standard that you hold them by. And you know why don't take a well? Can I ask you a question? Yes, sir.

Why don't get upset? when I give them credit. Why don't know to say, man, oh, give me too much credit. I don't need all that credit, man.

Listen, that's, that's the layer of landscape. That's the nature of the beast. That's just the way it is. So guess what? That's the layer of land. When you're on this side of the camera,

that's the layer of land. You play well, I say you play well. You play bad. I say you play bad. Right. Right. But I just,

but I thought it was a little bit unprofessional. You see them doing an interview and then you come on the sideline and you start dancing and bucking behind. Oh, oh, oh, so now's a problem. Oh, it's a, oh, it's a problem?

So is that, hold on, let me ask your question. Oh, so, oh, that's the problem. So you can shoot how you want to on the camera and the mic, but then when the person's seeing in person, that's the problem on how they want to dance or why they want to get ready for the game? You do realize that Steve Smith approached him like a man and wanted to have a conversation to say, bro, if I, if you took anything that I said, I want to apologize.

Right. Oh, he said he did say, sorry. Well, br, bro, he said, he did say, sorry. He wasn't feeling it. He wasn't feeling it. But you know what? Jared Yudy can make the audience go away if he played better. Yeah, yeah.

I mean, three catches tonight for 14 yards. So what's that supposed to do? So what's that supposed to do? Can that ask your question? He had 3 for 14 tonight, right? Yeah. So you are blaming the production and the targets that he was afforded on him. On why he had 314.

Was he open? Well, shit. don't do that, it might stink. I have a question. Can I say something real quick? It's half of your show. Of course you can. Listen, you got Pookin the Kua over with the Rams, right?

Yes. Had 39 for 501 yards up until, I think maybe last week, until Kuba Cup being back. So you mean to tell me that the Rams have figured out a way to get a rookie to lead the league and catches and receptions. But over here in Denver, we have a lot of. a talent like that of Jerry Judy, which I've seen since he was Alabama. I saw him in high school at Deerfield Beach Senior High and all of a sudden he gets to the Broncos. He's drafted at a certain place 15th, if I'm not mistaken, in the first round, right? 15th. Yep. And they don't not

use him to his strengths. But he'd been doing it at every motherfucker level. Oh, shit. My bad. My bad. He'd be doing at every level, but all of a sudden he gets to the Broncos. Now it's something wrong with him. Now he can't get off. Now he can't get off. Now he can get off and all of a sudden. So one of the best, one of the best rock runners in the game today. Now we can't get open all of a sudden. Under your premise, if you had a great high school career, if you had a great college career, therefore that should translate into a great pro career. So hold on, let me finish.

Let me finish. So how many guys, every guy in the NFL had a great high school or college career? So therefore, under your theory, if you had those two great high school, great college, therefore you should have a great pro career. Listen, what you're not going to see him do is saying talk about Jerry Jude. be like he's some below average receiver. That's what we're not going to do because the production is not what it should be. And it ain't on it ain't fucking on him.

But see, it ain't on him. We're not, we're not going to do that. Don't, don't do that. All I know is, hold on.

If, now all I know is that Sean Payton has had other receivers, you look at the guys that he coached in New Orleans, they got it done. You told me Russell Wilson was playing well. But see, and a lot of other people have told me Russell. But when you don't watch the game and all you look at the box scores,

Yeah. And then you will look at it and you say Russell did play well. But if you watch the game, you can see Russell has not played well. Right. But when you are stat watcher and not a game watcher, you won't be able to differentiate between the two. But I can't. Right. So with that being said to you, so, in other words, you think Jerry, and I believe, listen, I was wrong because I thought he was the most talented receiver coming out in the draft.

I thought he should have been the first receiver off the board. You know what he can do. You know what he can do. All you have to do, you're not for it. If they can do it with Pooka and the Kuhu and with the RAM, they can do it with Jerry Judy because of the difference in skill. He got the DNA to make up to be a difference maker, but they're not using them the right goddamn way.

It's really simple. It's really simple. It's not that hard. I think the thing is that you, have because he's from Florida and he played at Deerfield. Oh, Cho, the man has underachieved. It's as simple as that. Now, here it is.

Now, I mean, this is third offensive coordinator. This is third offensive coordinator. Oh, it's third officer coordinator. Yeah. Okay. Oh, okay. Third. Third.

Yeah. Yeah. So when they make the excuse for quarterbacks having a third officer coordinator as the reason why the production isn't what it should be, Is it different when it comes when it's a receiver? No, no, no, no. I don't make excuses. I call it like it is.

Because, guess what? At some point in time, we see what we got to stop always, what's the coaching. It's the coaching. Maybe the guy just isn't going to be what we expected him. And that's okay. Ocho, you do realize everybody that goes in the first round is not meant to have the level of success that we thought they would have because of where they were selected in the draft.

You do understand that, right? Yeah, I do understand. I do understand that. Are you sure you understand that? Yeah, I understand it clear as day. But I also, I have the eye test. And I also am not dumb. Well, you cross-out.

Yeah, I listen. I'm calling it right now. If you're using the right way, if you're using the right way and understanding his strengths and what he does well and what he doesn't do too well, it's easy to put him in position to succeed.

It's not hard. Oh, Cho, if we did that for every player, if we just cater to the offense to what Jerry Judy, so what if he, so what about Colton and Sutton? Wait, he been drafted in the, wait, drafted first round, right, 15th pick? Yeah, that's what you, that's what you do?

That's what you do. So what about Cortland Sutton, who's a pro bowler? So what do we run, so we got to run, so we got to run, so we got to run, are you trying to win games or not? Because you, you're doing it,

the Broncos win, you're one and goddamn five. Are you trying to win games or not? So, hold on. How many games have they won since Jerry Judy been there? How many games has he contributed to the winning? Don't do that. Don't do that. That's what I'm saying.

The whole point of trying to win is putting your pieces in position to help you win. If you're not doing that, then what? So in other words, does Jerry Judy Blair bear any culpability in him not having a level of success that we expected him to have at this point? Yeah, of course. Of course. of course. So what's that responsibility?

Jerry Judy go in to practice every day, right? Yeah. He studied film every day, right? Yes. He goes to work Wednesday, practice Thursday, practice Friday,

he's at walk through on Saturdays, and he goes out there on Sundays wanting the results of the work that he's put in throughout the week to show up on Sunday, doesn't he? Yes. But it's not going the way he'd like it to go. What do you do from that point on?

What do you do from that point on? Look, I think we've all had stretches where we've had stretches and things didn't quite go our way. Yeah. I just put my hard hat on and I just came to work every day. Bingo. I mean, there was a stretch. I mean, you have to understand.

I was one of the, I was the highest rated receiver below 1A. I was like number three on the draft. And my draft coming out. I was third rated receiver. And then I really didn't get a whole lot of reps. I was mainly a special team. Yes, sir. But I just say, you know what?

I'm just going to keep getting better. I'm going to keep, hey, special teams is where I'm going to make. it. So I bust my tail on bat. And then when it clicked, and then when I didn't have, you know, it's easy. It's easy to point the finger said to quarterback or the officer coordinator. Well, I'm going to make it so difficult. You ain't got no choice but the call plays for me. Right now, Jerry Judy is making it very easy, Ocho, for the coordinator and the head coach not to put him in position. See, you made it difficult for them not to call your number, for them not to call your name, regardless of down. and distant, regardless of area on the field, regardless of the score, I've got, I'm going to make

it so difficult, hey, 84, what you want, 85, what you want, coach, give me that square out, coach, give me that, give me that nine, coach, give me that bang, give me that bang eight. Right. At this point, that's what Jerry, he has to have the mindset, so you know what, damn it, hey, enough of argument with, right, forget all that, because you can't, you can't win, you only get an opportunity to speak when they come to you. I mean, all these other guys, I mean, uh, uh, uh, and me now, I don't even, I used to go back and forth with them too, Ocho. I ain't gonna lie. For real.

But I'm gonna, I, I'm sorry, I used to go back and forth with them on Twitter. Right, right, right, right. I say what I say on my, on a particular platform, I'm done with it. Oh, is it? That's how, that's how you got to get. You say what you say, and be done with it. I'm not going to go back and forth with you. because I know what I see.

Right. You ain't, look, a lot of, it used to be before we started getting jobs like this, Ocho, it was just journalists. And the argument they would use, you never played the game. You never ran a route. So when you critique him, what is he going to say to Ocho?

One of the greatest route runners in NFL history. One of the guys that, okay, the greatest route run in the NFL history. So what's he go? What's his argument with you? What's his debate with me? my resume speaks for itself. I'm not going to even tell you my resume.

But you can Google it. So what's the argument now? See, that's the problem. You're running out of journalists to say they didn't play. Now you've got two guys debating what you're doing, what you're not doing, that played and played at a high level. At some point in time,

even when we talk about, and it's only us, oh, you're trying to bring a black man down. But when a white analyst criticize a white player. They don't never say, oh, you're trying to bring me down. Brom, bring you down how? I'm not saying, oh, what about that gun you had in your car? What about that marijuana? Or what about this and that? I don't say that. I'm talking about your play on the field. That's all I care about. All that other stuff, I let TMZ. I let the Shade rule.

I let ball alert and Hollywood unlock. I let them be over that. I'm specifically talking about play on the beat. I think all Jerry has to do, all he has to do to answer to the critics and anybody that has anything to say is when the opportunities present themselves, you have to make the most of them. If it's three, if it's four, if it's two, if it's one, you got to, you got to had it. And he already got that mentality anyway. He already had that mentality anyway. You just got to forget. Ignore the noise. Go and do what you do best because you've been doing it for years. You've been doing it for years. And he's always been a winner. It's a funny thing about it. He's always been winning. He's always been winning all this life. All of a sudden, now you're in a situation where it's not the same, where it's not the same. You have to be that much.

more special at the position you're doing that much more clinical, technique, sound, and polished because of the way things are now. And just the landscape of how things are going. You've got to be that much more perfect at the position plan. But the thing is, is that that's what you have to realize. You said something, and that's how I got the name Big Play Shea, is because I would take one play and I'm going to hit my head on the goalpost. I knew I wasn't going to get those kind of opportunities because that's not the type of team

that we had. Right. I wasn't going to get 15 targets. Right. I might get three. Now, one, if you make a mistake, I'm going to hit my head on the goalpost. You're gone. You gone.

Yeah. Yeah, you're gone. And that's a mentality he has to have. That's all. The game tonight. What was your big takeaway? What did you like? What didn't you like?

For the Broncos, even though they lost, the defense, thank you. The defense, thank you for coming to play. Obviously, playing against the juckin' out. That is the Chiefs, they came to play ball tonight. They came to play ball. if they got any, any, any ounce of production from the offense outside of what they scored toward the end of the game, as far as getting, getting them in position to score, it would have been much better. Even with the ref trying to say, even though the ref trying to make it a game at the end of the game with the fake rough and the passer, it was brilliant.

The defense played really well. They came to play outside what we saw from them when they played the dolphins. It wasn't that. It wasn't that. I was really surprised by it. Obviously, the chiefs are doing what the chiefs always do, keeping it. at a close game against a division opponent. And anytime you got Patrick Mahomes at the helm.

If you're the Broncos, Ocho, you got to win that game. Do you realize that's a way to win it? Find a way to win it. That's only the fifth time in 51 home games, regular season and playoffs, that Mahomes has been held below 20 points. You held Patrick Mahomes for the fifth time in 51 home games, regular season and playoffs, you got to find a way to win. Because you know he normally get to the high

20s, 30s at home. You know that. And you kept him. You may, think about it, you picked him in the end zone, you made him kick two feet, you made him, you turn them over on downs in the red zone, and you made him kick field goals. Yeah. You've got to somehow

find a way to win that game and change the mindset. It's not good enough. What we played them, we right there, we played them close. You've got to find a way to get that game in their building to change the entire mindset of the organization. Yeah. I think the interceptions, the interceptions hurt, the fumble hurt.

Well, no, they got the fumble back, but the interception hurt where Russell tried to hit, right, tried to hit Judy. One of those, I called it dad. They caromed up and then, yeah, both of them. Well, I don't know if he was trying to go to Judy. It looked like he was trying to go through to the tight end. Yeah. But I don't, I don't understand.

Just go ahead and check the back because he's not looking for that. He don't even see, he don't even see, he don't even see the middle linebacker because there's nothing to hold him. He's just tracking Russ's eyes. So he sees Russ's eyes goes to his left. He goes to his right. So it's... Yeah, it's unfortunate, man.

Right now, everything is magnified for their Broncos team, offensively and especially on the offense. And, you know, they're killing Russ. They're killing Russ. And I'm sure mentally, I think that can take a toll on you. I... You think so?

Yeah. I think... I think they're going to try... They're going to move Judy. They're probably going to move Sutton. They're just like, you know what? Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, they can't move every goddamn body.

Yeah. They're going to get in the, they're about to get in the Caleb Williams week. Right now, if the draft was today, they'd be third. They'd be sitting third. Right. Because the way I look,

but the way I look at the Ocho, where they go in? Where are you going? You can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, um, as, as a team and as a coach, you can't fold, you can't fold this early.

Because you'll lose your team. You can't lose your team. You got to, you got to keep fighting. And even if you are in the sweepstakes for Caleb Williams, you have to still call the plays and game plans to a survey. Yeah, game to a game to a certain way you want to win. But you see letting Randy Gregory, you know, trading Randy Gregory. They're going to move. They're going to start and start. Let's go ahead and start. Let's get some of these young guys some playing time. Let's try to get some draft capital. Because think about what they gave up to get

Russ. Yeah. Brough. You. the coffers. And you gave up quality players to get him. A Shelby Harris, a no offense, three first round picks. Right. So you gave up a lot to get him. So now you got to try to get some of that capital back.

Judy could possibly fetch you a second round pick. Cortland Sutton might fetch you a third or a fourth round pick. You've got to try to look. And it's rough when you're a veteran player. Because, hey, by the time the Broncos, If I'm a veteran player, by the time the Broncos get good, hell, I'm going to be gone. Right, right, right.

I'm going to be retired or they're going to be shipped me on with the youth movement. And it's hard because I've been in that situation where you know, like, okay, what do we do? But fortunate for me, I've always, you know, when you thought about it, I was like, man, I got John. So there ain't, ain't no rebuild going on as long as you got seven. But I empathize for people that I'm from a distance I've watched. And I'm like, bro, until.

he gets good, I'm supposed to just take the Ails until he gets good or until y'all rebuild or get all the guys that you guys want. It's tough. But the Broncos, these are the games that the Broncos have lost because they've been right there for whatever reason.

They play Kansas City tough as hell. Every time. And have yet to find a way to get one of these victories. Listen, it's something about the own divisional games. I don't know what it is. Something about the divisional games. They always they are always close.

Every so often, you know, you'll get a blow out. But when you say fire sale, I just want a little bit more clarification. Does that fire sale also come with Russ having to move as well? If somebody would take them off their hand, you'd be there. Yeah, yeah, they would ship Russ, absolutely. Absolutely. Because guess what?

I ain't got, look, you do realize Russ signed like a quarter of a billion dollar deal with like 160 to 170, of it guaranteed. So I get that off my books. So imagine the cap space I'm going to have. Right. Okay, now I get draft capital if I move one,

because you got, you got a young receiver. You got mems, you took mems, I think, in the third or fourth round from Oklahoma. So you got some young guys at Johnson. You got some young guys that's shown potential. And another thing that's kind of hurt Judy is that Jude has kind of been Nick. You know, he's ham.

You remember he started to see he had the hamstring. And I think he hurt his shoulder or he's heard his knee something last year. So he's missed time and it's forced him not to be able to stay in a rhythm. Because it's hard. It's hard getting Nick during the season and coming back and finding a rhythm. And that's the funny thing about it is when you get in rhythm and you get that confidence going or you touch that ball and you start feeling it and you and the you and the quarterback build a rapport, it's a beautiful thing.

It's almost like art. It's almost like, all right, him and Russ just haven't been able to get on that page due to the injuries and stuff like that. And it's unfortunate. And it's unfortunate. Marvin Mims was drafted in the second round. Taylor Swift was in attendance, but I did like how Amazon chose not to just put her up there every time Kansas City did something, just flash her up on the screen. Look, I'm happy for the NFL. Anybody that's going to bring eyes and positivity to the National Football League, I'm all for it.

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I know you heard this. This was a trending topic. Jada Pickett Smith speaks on her married will. She said her and will have been separated since 2016. What? She also said that Tupac were her soulmate, but they had no chemistry. I don't know how that happened.

I don't know if you can be soulmates with no chemistry because I think that's what makes you soulmate. But we can let this, let me finish. Yeah. And so people like, well, she's telling her why you come in. She brought it to it. She brought it to it. Did you know that her and will have been separated?

I ain't know that until you just told me. Nobody knew until she's on a book to her. So we got to understand. Right. And see now, so guess what? This man, basically your husband, basically threw away a large part of his career. Right.

Why? Because everybody, all that, that man, why? They not even, they separated. Wait, are you sure? She said that? That was she, if it's a lie, she told it. Wait a minute. Hold on.

Wait, wait a minute. Will Smith, wait, hold on. That's so much to unpack right now. And I ain't got no suitcase. She said they have been separated since 2016. He did with. what he did in 2022.

So at that point in time, they had been separated for six years. Boy, you've got to be shud me. Wait a minute. So he went up there and had that altercation with Chris Rock, and they weren't even together? Wasn't together. She's talking about, ain't no way.

We're going to get a divorce. I'm sorry, Jada. Y'all divorced. You just hadn't signed the paperwork. Listen, that is a very, very weird dynamic. Obviously, people in Hollywood already have a different way of doing things. They don't do things. the traditional way.

They operate and mars to the people they are on the drum. But wait a minute. And I heard the whole Tupac was their soulmate, but they just had no chemistry. Boy, did you ever see a different world? Did you see a different world

that episode with Jada Pinkin and Tupac was on there? Well, they chemistry was good. That chemistry was good. This is what I hate. This is what I hate, Ocho. And this is why a lot of times I don't, you know,

I've been approached several times over the last year about writing a book. If I were to write a book, there are a lot of people that's gone, that's had a home going, and they're not here to refute anything that I say. Right. I don't like that.

Also, he's not here to refute that he proposed to you. That's what you're saying. Oh, she said that when he was in Rikers, well, actually, Rikers or Clinton correctional. I know at one point in time, he probably started out at Rikers

and then went to Clinton correctional. He proposed to her. Well, you know what happened when you're in jail now. What, you know, you do anything when you're jail. A lot of the people, a lot of the people, yeah, yeah, yeah, hey, babe, I want to ban. You do anything, yeah, man, you say anything. I can't wait. And as soon as they get home.

Different story. He's a different story. So you know what? There's some of it today. You might be right. He might just say anything to get up out of her. I have a question. Yes.

I'm not into it, but from what I've learned and for what I've seen. there have been many times that Jada has expressed her interest in her love for Tupac through letters, if I'm not mistaken, just it jogging, because I'm not really into gossip like that. But it's almost in the sense, it's almost embarrassing for Will. And yeah, to her husband in the sense. She's embarrassed him by every turn. And that's right. And she's basically shown she's, you know,

for lack of a better word, taking a dump on him at every time. Right. Right. And in Publicly. Yes. Look, I think, oh, Joe, all of us, all of us of dating age, let's just say somewhere between the ages of 18 and 75. Right. Unless you married your childhood sweetheart. I think we've all had someone that we was very, very fond of. Right.

But at every point in turn, you don't throw it up in the person's face at every turn. Right. That was my soulmate. I missed this man. I'm talking publicly. I'm not going to let you do that. I don't care. You're not going to continuously embarrass me by talking about another man while you're in a

relationship with me. Right. With me. Well, that's the thing. You see what you just said? The key words you just said, while you're in a relationship with me. But if they've been separated since 2016, maybe that's why she's doing the purposely. Maybe she's doing the purposely to force him to divorce her.

Oh, Cho. She's been talking about this man from the jump. Think about it. She will smell. Will Smith felt some type of way about Tupac. He even said it that he felt some type of way because he knew how his wife felt about Tupac. Now, how to hell you feel some type of way about somebody

but you don't got no chemistry? Now tell me that. And I ain't talk about the class that we took in high school. I'm talking about how can you say y'all had no chemistry but every time your husband feels some type of way because you're always bringing them up. Thank you. Now you got me questioning my,

you got me questions. got going on her. Excuse me. You got some, you got, you, you got a secret. You got a secret. You got, you got a secret like, is there anybody that's like, you're too puck? Oh, you just, it's just me. Huh? Okay. Oh, she said, I'm her two pop. She said, I'm her two pop. Yeah. She said, I'm a two pop. But listen, listen, their dynamic is, it's very weird. It's not, they operate at a completely different level, you know, people, people, people get that kind of money, you get that kind of wealth, and you get bored. And you do things differently than everybody else. So it's, It's hard for everyone else to grasp and understand the dynamic that they have.

And Hollywood is weird. I don't know how long you've been out in LA, but Hollywood is different. Yeah, I didn't know. You know that. Yeah, it is. Ocho, what did I tell you? Yes, I said, Ocho, I do all I do in private. You go on vacation in private.

You date in private. You have your finances. You do that in private because you know what I found out, Ocho? Right. People will ruin beautiful things. If I tell you, I said, Ocho, I just saw the biggest lion in Africa. If I tell somebody, somebody's going to go

and try to kill him to have his head. If I say, I saw the biggest, I saw the biggest elephant in Tanzania or Kenya, or, excuse me, Zimbabwe, they're going to try to do something. If I tell you something, somebody's going to go, people ruin beautiful things.

And that's why, well, you don't talk about this, you don't talk about that, because y'all are ruining it. because y'all don't like to see people happy because if you're not happy, you're like, hell, I don't want to be the only one that's miserable. Misery loves company. So you'll try to mess up something

that you don't know anything. You don't even know that person. But you don't want them to be happy because you mad or you sad or you miserable. I like that. I like that. That's good. I like the points you made there,

but I think that might be a problem where comes in a play where it's, I'm trying to find you a woman, right? I'm trying to find you a significant other. Do you think women love to be loved out loud. Do you think women would agree, especially in this day and age or someone that you would meet a quality that can turn your house into a home? Do you think they would enjoy being everything private? It's more like you hide her. Think about it. Before social

media, wasn't nobody say take no pictures. Wasn't nobody trying to take no picture. We were together. We know we're together. Are we together for us? Are we together for everybody else to see? Go ahead and talk. What are you doing? What are you doing? What are you doing? What? What are you doing? What what are you doing this for? Are you trying to say, yeah, nah, y'all didn't think I could get nobody.

Y'all didn't think I could get nobody on Shannon Sharp's level or you didn't think Shannon Sharp could have anybody because he did this X, Y, and Z. Why do you want it to be public? Who are you trying to impress? Ocho know we together.

Shirel know y'all together. Nobody else matters. Right. That's a good point. That's a good point. And I think maybe for the young, I think maybe for the younger generation, the display of affection, the show of love, the PDA,

and in loving me out loud and doing those things and being able to display those affections over social media is at times warranted. I think that's something that some people enjoy and like, I guess. I don't know. I don't know. To each of all, whatever, I mean, whatever makes, but like I said, you can't say something out loud. You can't show us because people are going to comment.

Right. man, that's the thing. She made it public. Right. I didn't know they weren't. I didn't know they were, they were, they were separated since 2016. She said that. She keeps speaking about Tupac. So if she don't care about Will Smith, at some point in time, I had to, and I still, hey, I still, uh, his movies. I, I, I bought so many of his, his records. One of the greatest ever. That's her disrespecting him. That's not, I don't have anything to do with me because I commented on it. Right.

She is doing this. Do you think, again, again, do you think your angle is to purposely drive him away and get him to divorce her? I'm just asking. Well, at this point in time, he knows about the entanglement that she had with her son's friend. She knows an entanglement. In other words, she was having an affair with her son's priority. No. Yeah.

Oh, what did you talk about? You know, that's the term they use entanglement. Entanglement. Okay. Yeah, that's what they called it. That is what we call it. We call it something else.

Oh, no. Well, maybe there was an agreement because now we talk about Hollywood. Now, you know, Hollywood would a little different now. So you might have been an agreement. Hey, to each's own. I ain't got no problem with it. Whatever, whatever in your bowels,

whatever within your bows rock with it that ain't got nothing to do with me but all I'm saying is that she's still okay we know about the entanglement because she mentioned it we know about the infatuation or the love with Tupac

she mentions it right right well if she's if she's mentioning this out loud how many times has she said it in private to him well maybe they have an understanding maybe they have an understanding

to keep the train rolling and whatever it is that he's trying to do yeah to each of like maybe yeah Ocho. Uh-huh. Norm. Norm is what the large

majority of the population does. Right, right, right. What's normal to you might not be normal to me. Yeah. And what's normal to me might be not normal to my producer. So what is normal? How do we define it? Because I'm sure a lot of, you know,

a lot of things that I do eating the same things over and over, going to bed at the same time, getting up at the same time, is not normal to people. Right. So I don't know, maybe that is normal. See, maybe what they do, like you said, maybe sharing or the entanglement or the infatuation with other people,

maybe that's their normal. Right. Because what I do, because what's normal to you might not be normal to me. Yeah. The funny thing about it, you could line up 100 people. You could line up 100 people and ask 100 people the same question

on what they consider normal. And every answer will be different because everybody views on tradition and the social construct on the way we're supposed to abide by or just life in general or partners or whatever it may be. Everybody's differs.

Everybody differs. Especially behind closed doors. Yeah. Because in public, we all might act normal. But when we get home behind those closed doors, it's a different ballgame. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. See, you know, you might walk around your house buttball.

That's normal to you. Oh, no, I'm shy. I'm shy. I can't be doing that. I'm not walking. I'm not walking. I bring my clothes in the shower. I ain't walking nowhere but ball.

I don't walk around my house barefoot. A lot of people go outside that barefoot and they walk your house. I ain't walking nowhere with my bare feet. Right. I walk to the bathroom and back to my bed. But as far as like go downstairs and come to the kitchen to get stuff, I ain't walking without. shoes on my feet. I ain't walking nowhere. Listen, you know what the hard part is about this? What? The hard part is about it is, is you having your core values on what you believe in and finding

somebody that you like that aligns with everything that you rocking with. That's the hard part. Yeah, it's hard because I'm old school. See, like going to the bathroom with, with, with, with, with, with, with, with, with, with, with, with, with, with, with, with, with, with, with, with, with, with, with, with, I'm not. I'm not. I don't know. I, no. No, no. That's the number one. Listen, listen, let me tell you. my grandma told me now, baby, the minute she can use the bathroom and leave the dough open, that's the one. She can't do that. Yeah, that's the one.

That's the one. This is right here? I knew she was the one. When she fought in the front of me, oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, Joe, I broke up with a girl for doing that.

Man, stop playing. You left a girl for that? I swear for God and two white men I did. Oh, boy, you're a tough cry, boy. You're a tough cry, boy. Oh, Joe, you're a tough guy. The bathroom right there. Five steps out.

You mean to tell me you, you got, no, no, I don't do that, oh, Joe. I can't do that. No, you can't do that. She got to get up and go out of the room just to pass a gas. That's disrespectful, man. Stop playing. Oh, you tripping.

You tripping. You tripping. You tripping. Beggy let that shit out. And listen, I graded it. I graded too. When she let one out, okay, that was about a foe right. Yeah.

That was about a foe. That was a good one. Wait, so she got to, when she used the bathroom, she got to close the door, too? she she goes to a different area of the house don't nobody go to the bathroom if we're both home nobody goes to the bathroom

and the master bathroom nobody oh man come on you tripping man you gotta oh cho you run the prison oh cho well you run in the prison now come on man I was I would literally I would drive back to Fox or I would go to the guest house or I was sending it to the start

like you know what I need something from Whole Foods. I need something target. Yeah. She's like, okay, I'll go get it. And that was my opportunity. So use the bathroom? Yeah. We got to get you therapy, baby. We got to get you therapy. You can't, you can't do that. You can't, you can't live like that, baby. I love you.

I love you to death, man. We got to sit down and we got to talk about that. A woman got to go to a separate part of the house just to use the bathroom. Number two? Yeah, you were not, yeah. Nah, man, you trip. Listen, do you understand? Do you understand? Let me take some. I can't close the door. If you go and pee, close the door.

I don't want to hear. Let me tell you some. Me and my baby, we have our own personal red table talks. I'm not going to, I'm not talking about the ones like Jada, the best talks we have, the best conversation. I ain't even trying to be funny. And I can, I'm comfortable with mine. You feel me?

If you got to use the bathroom, man, lead the dough open because that's the perfect time. Oh, no, no, no. You can be open. I'm not going to be in there with you, but that's the perfect time to create a conversation to have a little dialogue on important stuff, man. You tripping, man. I don't, listen, I don't do no talking. I don't do no talking.

Well, I'm in there, I ain't in there to talk. Oh, man. Man, you know, hey, you know. Hey, look, you know at the team facility, they got the stalls next to each other and I got, bro, I ain't talking. Don't talk to me. You can't live like that, man.

You can't live like that. No, you can't, no. That's barbaric, man. You can't do that, man. We got to work on that later. We're going to work on that. Oh, show. YouTube was asking the question.

It's like, where do you get your news from? They say, you get your news from AOLA. Say it, dialogue. Mm-hmm. And, uh-huh, uh-oh, e-on-on-e-on-oh. Oh, Joe. Oh, Joe. And I almost put up my water, man.

Hey, come on. But I, hey, but I commend you and Shirea having that type of relationship, but that's not the type of relationship. That's what you need. That's love, man. That's that, that's that real, that's that, that's that, That's that real genuine. I'm not hiding.

Like, ooh. Hide. And that's, man. Yeah. Yeah. You can't live like that, man. Like, no, listen, like, I'm almost by the craft for you. Man, you can't do that, man.

Oh, Joe. That's too much. You can't live like that, man. I go, no, no, no. I don't go to the bad. I go even, I'm talking about at 2 o'clock, 3 o'clock in the morning. Yeah. For some reason, my stomach, I'm going to go downstairs.

Oh, that ain't healthy, baby. Like, I'm telling you, like, as, as, as, as, as a friend of many years, as a friend of yours, that ain't healthy. And I don't walk like that, you know what? I don't walk around naked in front of women. What?

Uh-uh. Ocho, you have to understand. Is that trauma? Is that trauma from your childhood? That's something happened. Yeah, well, I grew up in a house full of women. And so it was me and my brother, my grandmother, my sister, and my aunts.

And so once we got a certain age, my grandma said, boy, you know, we couldn't walk around bare, chest that we couldn't walk around with just just shorts anything on. Okay. So that's just, and from that point on. Okay, okay.

And I'm, I've been shocked with you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Stuff. Okay, I got you. I got you. Now I understand. Now, I got it. I got it.

And so now I just, I just can't. I can't. I'm, my, it just feel like, like your, her, her eyes are piercing me. Hmm. And so I, and I just, I'm not, I, I just can't. So I got one more, one more thing. One more thing. So if you have a woman, right?

Yeah. And y'all together, y'all together. So like me and the missus, we like to go to the nude beach. You feel me? And just, you know, walk through the new beach. You won't do that? I don't walk you. I don't walk around naked in front of nobody in my own home.

You think I'm going to go walk in front of 500 people? Man, you got to try that one time. We got to break you out of that. Like when things that bother you, you have to go out there and do it with intent to get over it. You got to get over that. No. Get you.

Not only am I going to find your woman. I'm a fine woman. I'm going to see y'all on a date to a nudist colony. I got to get you together, man. You will enjoy that. You'll enjoy that. Trust me. No, I'm good, Ocho.

You know what? Tyreek Hill says Chase Playpool is like a bending machine out there. What did that even mean? Oh, he looks like a vending machine. Oh, and I, listen, what Tyreeky of them have as a receiver squad is a bunch of short dudes that are small and basically a four-by-one team that can compete with anybody in the world

outside of Canada, USA and Jamaica. And that's what they got, small. You know what's in bending machines, right? You got choices. So, you know, you got chips, you got candy, you got soda, you got different things. Right. I mean, Chase,

Now I'm thinking he talked about the size. Chase Claypool, like 6'4-2-30, just, you know, I think that's what he meant. But what, but you hear what Chase Claypool said? He said, when I lost my starting job, it played with me mentally. I told you. I told you, Ocho, see, you don't want to admit the fact. I told you that enough. I say he was, when they pulled him to the side.

Right. And DJ Morrissey, Chase know we need better effort. What did I try to tell you, oh, Cho? A, two things going to happen when you have people tell you stuff like that. When you get criticism, whether it's in the locker room or whether it's at home. You get criticism from your girlfriend or from your wife. Where you get it from your teachers or from your counselor or from your therapist. You either going to fold or you're going to show up to the party.

You got two type of people in this world. Either you're going to fold or you're going to show up to the party. And maybe for Chase, maybe getting out of Chicago is the great thing because now he had the chance at a first start. getting out of Pittsburgh with the right thing to? Come on, why are we doing that? Let's stay in the present.

Let's stay in the present. Since you love vending machine, have we ever gone to a vending machine, put your money in, and you don't get what the hell you pay for? If he'd be that type of vending machine, because they pay him a lot of money, and he ain't been giving them what he owed him.

Sometimes when you order something for the vending machine and they get stuck, you know what you got to do to it? You got to shake it a little bit. You got to shake it out of. You got to shake it out of. And that's what coming to the Dolphins is. The coming to the Dolphins, that's the shake.

I hope they're shaking. I mean, he's going to give you what you want. But he's in the right place. I don't know if you notice, but they got a disclaimer on vending machine. Do not tilt over. Could hazardous, could cause danger, could cause death. Have you seen any vending machines? Go look at the vending machine.

About rocking them. Right. He's going to be all right. Think about it. I may have, I may or may not have rocked a few in my time. And they dropped some chips. Yeah. One of the best things that happen with women is when they dating somebody and it's a toxic relationship in the best times of their life and when they find somebody new, some of the best times in life. No, no, no, no, hell, you don't want to get into a toxic relationship because if she hurts, she's going to hurt, you know, she's bleeding. She's going to bleed and she going to bleed on you. Oh, he didn't healed up. He didn't healed up. He didn't healed up. Yeah, you know, when you get to Miami, when you get to Miami, when you land at Miami International Airport or you, or you're, you're going to heal up.

you heal up quick with that weather. You heal up real quick. All you got to do, get you some dinner at tussies. Oh, you're going to be all right? I just need to chase that money. I mean, because Pittsburgh put money in there, Chicago put money in there, and they ain't getting nothing dropped.

Listen, the chips were stuck in the vending machine. But listen, over there in Miami, you know what we do in Miami? Oh, we're going to shake. Y'all going to shake it out of them? Yeah, we're going to shake it and get just what we need up out of you, baby. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal, but encouraged.

It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hard Radio app,

Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what you'll say. Yep, that's me, Cliver Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined.

And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment, and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast, it's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So if you've ever supported me or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need to be.

Listen to the Clifford show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. Hey, I'm Jared Adano. You might know me as that loud guy who yells out, help on the internet. Help! Somebody! Please! But there's so much more to me than me. I'm an actor. I'm a comedian.

And recently, I've become quite the helper myself. And on my new podcast, Hope from a Hypocrite, I'll be changing lives, helping people in need with my sage advice and thoughtful solutions. Sike! I'm a comedian. I'm not qualified to give good advice. Join me and my comedian friends as we riff rant recommend some of the most legally dubious advice known to man. If I'm calling you, even if you're on your phone,

let it ring twice. One ring is too scary. Oh, cream a chicken suit. Hey, cream. Cream a chicken suit. This is Help from a Hypocrite, the worst advice from the dumbest people you know. Listen to Help from Hypocrat as part of the Mike Cultura podcast network

available on the IHart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, wherever you get your podcasts. D.K. McCall predicts rookie Devon Witherspoon going to get the better of your boy, Jamar Chase. That was spoons. They call him Spoon. They say he's scooping forward. They say he's scooping receivers up.

They say he's a tablespoon too. Listen. Oh, you know that big spoon? Your grandma had that was on the back of the couch. That old big one spoon. Yeah, that's what they call it. Yeah, they call it one spoon. Not the day.

Listen, Jamar Chase has the moniker. of 7-Eleven for a reason. He had a game where they didn't get in the ball enough and they lost that game. And he came back. He came back and showed him and said, listen, I'm open. I'm always fucking open. 15 for 181. 15 for 181 and 3 TDs.

We do know. Nick ain't nobody stopping that. Not even, man, listen, ain't no Witherspoon, tablespoon, teaspoon, teaspoon. We do know, Jemarthe. We do know, Jamarchae saw it because he retweeted D.K.'s tweet.

Yeah. did did do you think that provided Bulletin Board material? Listen, that is Bulletin Board material. Why would you, why would you want to why would you want to entice? Why would you do it? Why would you do it? What would you sit in DB?

Like, depending on the endorsements of the sponsors at the time, I would send them to the DBS as, that was more sportsmanship and a challenge to you. You already know what time it is. Okay, that was Spoon said. That's a challenge to me.

I'm not sure. No, Spoon didn't say it. D.K. D. D. D.K. said it. Now Spoon got to deal with the ramifications of the bullshit. So, in other words, D.K. So now he got to deal with Chase.

That spoon got a cash. Yeah, exactly. And the funny thing, that bit, that bitch fin the bounce. Oh, that check don't bounce. And this isn't the thing. Devin Whittlespoon is really good. Very good. Oh, he liked that for real.

Yeah, he's very good. And what we're not talking about is Tariq Wulin on the other side is very good as well. And you know what both can run. But you know what you know what the Seattle's going to do? They ain't, they're not doubling. Or they're going to play man. No, no, they play straight man. Oh, yeah, they've been right in your face.

K, cover one lurk, cover three lurk. That's what he is. He's a cover one. Yeah. And that's the scary thing. That's the scary thing. Because 711, he's always open. If you're coming off, if you're coming off of 15,

but 181 and 3 touchdown performance, boy, the juices is already flowing. So you know, he had 190 something, didn't he? 181. 15, 181 and two Tories. Or is it 191? I think he had 190 something. Okay, okay.

Either way, It's going to be gumbo, sir. It's going to be gumbo. It's going to be straight gumbo, Louisiana-style gumbo. That man, say, he's going out there, he's getting one of the more chili, with them old chili cheese, dog.

That's what he's coming out of Cincinnati to get. They say they do them fan. They're big in Cincinnati. That's what I heard. I don't know. I never had one. Yeah. Yeah.

He's a food. He's already to order a couple of them. He did? Yeah, say, he ordered a couple of them. Seahawk. See-Hawk. You know what Seahawk taste like? Do you know what Seahawk taste like?

Seahawk taste like chicken. You ain't never had no Seahawk before? No, oh yeah, you remember we was in the same division in Seattle before they realized. So we played them twice a year. Yeah, they're going to get realigned though, right? They're going to get realigned at Peacall Stadium. They're going to get realigned at Peacall Stadium on Sunday.

We played when they were in the Old Kingdom. That plays you to get loudly and you start rocking. Who was the receivers there for the Seahawks when you played? Brian Blades. Yo! Ryan Blades. Hurricanes, Blades. Yeah.

Yeah, they had Joy Galloway. Oh, my goodness. That's who I, up the top of my head. Y'all stop Galloway? Y'all stopped him. Or Galloway could run. Oh, yeah. You could run.

Oh, yeah. Man, that pigeon toad rascal? I mean, when I first saw him, I ain't know where to shake his hand or throw birds see. You saw pigeon toadle. I say, good Lord of Burk, but he could flat out. Name him that.

Let me ask you there. Other than my guy, C.C., I'm sorry, bro. Chris Carr is the only receiver that couldn't run 4-3 at Ohio State. Name another receiver that came from Ohio State that couldn't run 4-3. All of them. What about, um...

All of them guys to run. Olavee. Wait, Michael Thomas was 4-3? Oh, no, Michael Thomas was walking. Yeah. Michael Thomas is C-C. But you know what, uh, the Ohio State receivers? Man, they can go, boy.

They can run. They can run. Every last one up. Every last one on. If they got teens, eight or run 4-3 and they got a 4-5, I think C-C might have ran 4-5. But C-C had the best hands out of all of them, though.

That's for damn sure. Wait a minute. Wait a minute, now. Michael Thomas don't drop nothing either, now. Don't do that. C-C., but you have to understand. C-C., the glove, the technology. Right, right, right, right, right. Can you imagine if C-Cid.

It's different. It's different. C-C. I tell you another guy to have hands with no technology. Brandon Lloyd. Brandon Lloyd. Man, Brandon would crave. When he was with Denver, when he was with the 49ers? The number 49ers?

Man, some of the craziest highlights I ever seen. Craziest highlights I ever seen. Brandon was nice, man. Yeah. Yeah, Brandon was nice. Celebrity, Jeffrey, is airing tonight. What game do you think you could get the bag on? Get the bag.

Oh, price is right. What game show? Price is right. I know the price of everything. Listen, you know how I am. I'm financially the cost. and very conscious when it comes to shopping. Price is right.

I know the price of everything. You know I knew how much them goddamn batteries was for that smoke detector when I stole that battery from the hotel. But here's the thing. What's working against you? They're basing on the prices in California. You don't know the prices in California. So you got to do 15, 20% markup on everything.

15, 20%? Hell, yeah. You know what? Why are you even out there? Why are you even living out there? My job. My job by here. Me, I'm Jeopardy.

Because I've already, I've already been on Celebrity Jeopardy and won. So I already know what I could do. Yeah, I won. They gave you the answers, though. They ain't given no answers. They gave you the answer. You had the script. There ain't no script.

You had the script. I like Jeopardy, but price is right. Oh, that's right up my alley. Price is right up my alley. Listen, I use coupons. I use apps. So I really know the price is everything. And the fact that it is in L.A.

And having the mark something up 15 to 20 percent, it wouldn't be, it'd be easy for Right. People are freaking out about Chris Jenner getting Tristan Thompson on the job of ESPN. Why are they surprised? Do they realize what Chris Jenner was able to do? Her daughter had something that would have doomed everybody else's career. And she turned into a billionaire. And she took her youngest daughter and turned her into a billionaire.

And she took her other daughters and made them more and more famous and more wealthy than they could have ever dreamed of. Do they not know? I don't think people know. I don't think people understand. I don't think people understand the chess move or the mastermind of the empire that Chris Jenner has built with her daughters, with her family. Yes.

I'm not sure if anything of that magnitude has ever, ever, ever been done before. But Chris Jenner could have opened up what's the word I'm looking for, where she can represent people, you know, and in some... Oh, you're talking about an agency. Oh, she could open up an agency, man, and represented people and found ways to navigate and get them to a

plateau they've never even thought of before because she thinks different. She thinks long term. She doesn't think short term. And the way she was able to navigate through everything and understand and be strategic, everything is

strategic that they do. Everything. Everything. Everything is a chest move. And there's a purpose and plan behind everything. I love what she was able to do. You know what? You're right. She could have. But she says, I'm going to devote all my attention to my family. Right. To the, yeah. This is how you know that's a special woman.

Given Tristan has two children from her daughter, Chloe. And we know about some of the indiscretions that he's done while he was with Chloe. And for that woman to say, I know that the pain and the hurt that you cause my daughter, but I care so much about my daughter, the father of my daughter's kids, I put all that ish to the side.

Let's go get this paper. Everybody couldn't do that. I have a question. Is she really the sole reason why he got a job at ESPN or is the fact that he's a former basketball player with knowledge so he can be a part of ESP? and contribute to what they do when it comes to basketball. There's a lot of basketball players with knowledge that can contribute.

Yeah, but is that something that they want to do? Actually, everybody doesn't want to be an analyst or a commentator at ESPN. Look, let's not de minimizer. She's a power broker here now. No, no, no. She's a moving shaker. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I know.

She's extremely powerful. I was just saying, I'm, I know. He made the call to ABC and Disney. She picked up the phone. She's one of these people like, I don't know how well you know the agencies, but a WME. who reps me, a CAA, a UTA, when they pick up the phone and call,

because here's the thing, they're not calling the agency back. They're calling who the agency represents back. So if the agency represents a Tom Cruise, you don't think somebody going to pick up that phone and answer or Denzel Washington or a Rock, but I think Rock is under Rock has a little bit of its own thing and so much. But, hey, Chris Jenner is a power broker out here.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. When she calls you answer. You answer because she make money. What did you say? It's dollars and cents. If it makes dollars, it makes sense. Yeah.

Yeah. And she knows how to do that. Can you imagine? Maybe we should talk to her by representing us. What do you think? No, I'm good with my people. Okay, okay. I'm good.

Hey, hey, what's a part of time? I'll be, hey. Yeah. Once a part of time, I mean, you can do them. Well, I'm good, too. I'm good, too. If you're good, I'm good. Yeah, I'm good.

Look, man, bro, loyalty is big to me. Yeah. Yeah. I, you know, Marvin and my team that I have now. Yeah. I got, you know. I'm happy with my team. Doug, Ryan, I love y'all.

I appreciate you. Yeah. I would just, you know, just. My producer, my creative team, the guys that around me. Yeah. Hey, everybody that's in place now. Right. You got locked in.

Ain't nobody. I need, I need, I'm trying to create me a big. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm on, I'm one, I'm one, I'm one, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to, I need, I need, I'm trying to create me a big team. I don't have a big team. Ain't, ain't no, ain't no unnecessary expense. I'm not one of these, go, oh, I got 12 employees just to say I got 12 employees. Hell now. I like what you just said.

That's how, I like what you just said. No unnecessary expenses. That, that's, everything, everything is a purpose. Ash has a responsibility. Right. CJ has a responsibility. Jordan has a responsibility. Shelly, who's my executive assistant,

she has a responsibility. Marvin does what he does. WM.E does what they do. Jamie does what he does. Jamie, who always, hey, everybody has a role to play. Everybody has a lane. I like that.

Hey, baby. Baby. Yeah, she didn't fell asleep on me, so she fired. She fired. I was going to make her my executive, my executive assistant. Yeah, but she sleep.

Babe, baby. Baby. shit she no but i mean look that's too much i mean if she got a full-time job that's too much right shelly full-time job is me that's a full-time job is me

well technically it kind of makes sense because if we're already together so technically you already the job i'm full-time anyway so it just makes sense where you could be my sister when she's showing a house where she's doing something she can't stop and take a call oh she that's the boss woman though that's the boss woman so she she don't she don't have to show the housing you know you have people

that work for you that do that do that you know she run the show so she's running the show yeah yeah yeah yeah she run the show see i don't have email so every call go is filtered through shelley okay so all the emails if you will send something you send it to shelley shelly deciphered shelly says okay shanna this is what came in today shenna here's your schedule you got this at noon you got this at three remember you got this okay you got a conference call with ash and the volume at this time jordan is coming over to shoot content today everything runs on the system. See, I like that. And that's exactly what it is right now.

I like that. I just never gave her a title, but now you just threw out the big words and I like the way the word sounds. So I want to, baby. Hello? Man, she's fired. She got one thing up in there saying,

leave me alone. I ain't going to tell you the finger that she got up in there, but I could. Oh, the one from church? The one from church. Oh, that quiet like you're coming in a late, like they can't see you.

When you're coming in a lady, you got to walk out a minute. Yeah. But yeah, I got the best, I got the best assistant in the world. Right. Right. Okay. I mean, I'm going to wake up. I said the alarm. She's going to call. Just making sure you're up. Right. The driver's, the driver picking me up. Right. Just making sure you're in the car. Hey, I'm making sure you arrive. I've talked to Ash. I've sent Ash knows that blah, blah, blah. Okay, I've talked to Jordan. I've talked to the people at La Portier. I've talked, I've handled all of this. So, when I don't work, I don't stress about anything because she's going to,

to handle it. Okay. Ash. When they call about, hey, Ash speaks on my behalf because she knows me so well. Now, she's going to call and say, what do you think about that? She said, that's exactly what I said. Right. That's exactly what I said.

Okay. Okay. So she won't be able to make any answers on your behalf. She makes, she can answer stuff on your behalf. Oh, yeah. Yeah. But she's still going to run it by me. Oh, okay.

She's still going to run it by me. Right. Oh, everything, everything can run by me now. Ain't nothing moving. Yeah, okay, okay, okay. There are a lot of moving. I'm stationary, and there's a lot of moving parts around me. Right.

I like that. I like that. Baby. Hey, so what, you see the, the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the should doer. You know, where everybody, should doer started it by putting up his wrist. And then you saw, uh, uh, Rick Rawls do it. You see DJ Callie do it. Breeze Hall did it.

Gary Wilson, the, the, Monta Adams, Chet Holgren, bro. He said, hey, he said he can't keep doing it for free. So he waited on him to get to the biggest day. Right, right, right, right. I like it. I like it, too. I like it.

Every time something different always comes around and it catches on. At one point it was a gritty. At one point it was a gritty. You know, everybody was doing the greedy. Right. I like what he's doing the fact that not only is he doing it, but he's playing well behind it. So it's okay.

It's validating what he's doing. Obviously some people are going to be upset about it. Some people are always going to find something wrong with everything no matter what. But as long as he continues to play the way he's playing, I like it. I love it. If you don't want him to do it, when people, when T.O. was doing all his dances and his stuff in the end zone. I say, if you don't want Tio to dance, he keep my dance on. Stop him.

Simple. Simple. You don't want somebody to do something. Hey, man, you're doing all this talking. That's it. Stop me from talking. If you beat me, I won't talk. Talk.

You win. Hey, you got me. But when I see you next time, I got something for you. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. They will always have a problem with everything. Anything that is not traditional or doesn't conform to the way they think.

He bragging about money. Wait, money? Bragging about money? You mean the same institutions that raking billions every year? year? Not us. We supposed to see, we got to be humble. We got, we're not supposed to.

Remember, Jack Johnson got in trouble because he flashed his opulence. He had the big fancy car, the could be convertible. He wore the big fur coats in the big hats. He had the nice jewelry. Had one of the things of the opposite race upon his arm. That really, that really pissed the ball. That pissed the ball. I mean, they didn't like the convertible.

They didn't like the meat coat. Right. But when he got, you know, something they want. they're like, whoa, hold, hold on, brother. Hold on, brother. Yeah. You speed. Listen, I, I,

everybody wants you to be humble. They want to be humble. They want you to be quiet. Don't dim your light. Man, Jesus was walking around with 12 disciples. That's what I try to, see, that's what I try to tear you. Don't, don't be humble.

Enjoy it. That's what I try to tear you. Scream it from the mountaintop. When he give you them blessings and you work hard for what you do, enjoy the fruits of your labor. What did God bless you? you with the ability to run and the cat and hand our coordination.

And you made million and you want to drive a smart car because you don't want, you don't want people to think you thumbing your nose of your success in their face. Did you hear what I just said? God bless me with a talent, a talent that I worked on and sharpened to get to a point where I did my entertainment and flamboyancy on the field. I don't need to do it off. I don't need to do it off. Stay with me now.

I don't need to do it off. So when you, let me ask you a question. When you get that private jet and you load up your kids and you load up mama. Or, okay, let's just say, you buy, you buy, yeah, and you go spend $50,000 a night. What's that? Wait a minute. Time out. Time out.

Let's come back a little bit. $50,000 night, that was, that was for a birthday. That was for a birthday. That was for a memory. The reasons are unimportant. The reasons are unimportant. So do you think $50,000 know what it was used for? So if I use $50,000 to buy a house or,

I use $50,000 by a watt. $50,000 is gone. What I used it for is unimportant. It was used. So you buy it so, oh, I did that for a birthday, a very special occasion. It's still $50,000 a night that was out the window, right? Yeah. The window opened right back up, though.

Oh, but you just said the other day, you can't think about that. You don't work like that. Then I'm going to get the bag back. That what you told me, Ojo. I'm going to get the bag back. Hey, I'm, I'm, that PJ coming too. Oh, yeah, for sure. Yeah, Ross, Ross said anytime I need it, man, just hit him.

That's what that. The importance of having rich friends is, it's just, I'm thankful and I'm grateful for people like that. For people like that, that at the height of their success and are willing to help the small folk like me, man. Ross, I know you're going to see this. Ross, I love you. I appreciate you. We've been rocking about 20 years, man. You got to stop being so cheap.

Who? You? They say you squeeze a dollar so tight that Eagle be screaming on it. Every time. Every time. That's the reason I had money 30 years. And I'm going to stay like that. It's going to stay like that.

It's all about balance. I can't wait to see that old Brinks truck and that U-Haul parked at the cemetery. At the who? Oh, that's right. They don't take them there. No, they don't. Oh, okay. My kid's going to have it, though.

They're going to be all right. Oh, I don't know if you know about it. but guess what? What happened? Steve and they got the flu and they asked me could I fill in for it? Whoa, whoa.

Yeah, yeah. You remember life with Ray and Clayton's and Ray-ass claws and why are you going on dressed up? He said, Mr. Wilkin driver got the flu and they asked me to fill in for it.

Well, let me, let me ask you something. You're filling them for him. Did you ask about, he asked about your boy? You see what you need, don't you? See, that's how,

I just got it. I'm on the job. one day. I'm on the job. I'm on the job. Man, you didn't have been on the job two months. This is my first time being lead dog, Ocho. But if you lead dog, then you had me right behind you.

Ocho, Ocho. Let me get in the house a little while, and they don't go realize that I've been taking scraps. You know, I've been giving you out of the back. Listen, don't know. Man, listen. I got to get it good. Listen, I'm telling you, let me tell you.

The people over there, people over there knew what they were doing at first take. Now, I'm talking about me and you, one, two punch, that's special. That's something special. The people need that. The people need that. What's the one thing that guys are all first take, what they do? Debate. They harsh critique players.

I could critique, too. That's not what you said. I can debate with the best of them. Everything is not meant to be a debate. Sometimes it's about a discussion and having an open and honest. conversation about how somebody played. I can do that. Are you willing to do that?

I'm willing to do that. Whatever you want me to do, boss. Okay. After, after I see a couple of times that you do it on here, then I'm going to go talk to the producers again. I do it every day. No, I do it. I do it every day. I do it every day. I do. I do, to an extent. Just check it, check

your boy tomorrow. Yeah. ESP. It first time. What time are you on? I'm on 10 a.m. 10 a.m. Hey, hey, well, since I can't be on a senior boy Shout out, man. See your boy, shout out.

I was going to say, shout out to Glibville. We at the house. Savannah State. What up? Nah, talk about FAMU. I ain't going to know FAMU. I'm with the Savannah State.

Which I would might mention something. Fam U ain't. I'm proud of all the HBCU, but ain't nobody getting no love in front of SSU. What's wrong with you? That's fine. Just bring me on there. Bring on there.

I wear my FAMU suit. No, you ain't. You can't. No. Yeah, boy. Man, listen. Well, if I get on ESPN just one time, well, I know my mom and my grandma

going to be proud. Look at my baby. You know, your boy. I don't made it. You're on TV. Grady, your boy made it. Hey, you're my own TV, granny. Ah, your baby on TV.

Yeah, that's why I need. I need you to help me, man. No, I don't need much. Just give me, give me, I do two blocks. A block and a B block. I don't need much. I don't need much I'm just telling you

I don't need much See what you're saying You say you're going to give me crumbs Give me come Give me crumb Give me the A and the B block That's all I need See what you say

See I'm trying to help you Now I try to say Hey look at Ocho I'm gonna get you a pair I'm gonna get you a pair of these Air Force One No give me to join one

Damn Ocho I'm getting you a pair of free shoes Now you're telling me You won't A and the B block You said how you did that See we ain't never satisfied I'm being nice. I'm being nice by not trying to do the whole show.

Just give me a little parent. Just give me a little, a little feet. You see how you operate? I get you a job. You don't want to start mid-level. You want to be the CEO. I said mid-level. A and B block, that's like, that's 10 minutes.

You do realize A and the B start the show. Those are the most important blocks. That's why we put the most important time with that. That's why I need to be at. See what I'm saying? You make it my point. You make it my point. You ain't happy with Air Force.

one. You want the George. You want the Freddie Kruger's. No, I don't like that. You want the Lops. You want the Lops. I like the Air Force One. Ain't nothing wrong with Air Force One,

but if we're going to do something, let's do it right. Let's get the people what they want. Get the people what they want, man. So now you want me to get to take the most expensive shoe that the man going to miss. The man going to miss like, hey, where do you,

are we had a size of 11 George? Where is that shoe? Listen, understand what you get when you get me that Jordan 1. Understand what you get, once I'm in front of that TV and that camera with that goddamn three-piece suit on with the look with the handkerchief hanging out of. Understand what you get with the glasses on.

Me off the air. That's what I get. Me off the air. So now we got two brothers. We got two brothers that's not going to be on first take no more. Me and you. Well, listen. Well, hey, listen.

One thing about it is I ain't going to sink the ship. I ain't going to sink the ship. We ain't going to be Jack and Rose. It's going to be enough room for me and you. you on that dough. So come on. Just do, do what you need to do. Get your boy on there, now. Help your boy out. Sometimes in life, you know what we got to do? We got to pull each other up. We got to, we got to pull each other to get to get to reach the pinnacle of my success off the field. You got to put me in a position to win and succeed. That's why I need you,

brother. That's your purpose. That's your purpose. You do realize, like, when you're trying to save someone and they're in the ocean and they're drowning, you know you're supposed to come up from behind, because the person is drowning, so he's going to push yourself, they're going to push themselves up. I don't like that analogy. I can swim. No, you can't.

No, you can't. But anyway, let me get my foot in the door. Let me get a couple of these hostages segments. You know, they say, hey, well, is there anybody you like to have on? I was like, yeah, you know what? Now that y'all mention it, it is there. You see how I did that, don't you?

Yeah, I like that. But listen, listen, you sound like Ray right now when he was out there bootlegging. You sound like Ray right now. You've been telling me when you get your foot in the dough, your foot that's been in the dough for two months. What else you ain't on? Ojo.

Get your rest of your body in the dough, man. Help your boy out, man. Oh, my, let me, let me. Oh, Cho, I got to get in, get settled, like, I got to know what all the stuff at. I got to know what all the stuff at. You know what the stuff at. You know what to do.

When that camera's on, when that camera's on, you know what to do. When the camera's rolling, I know what to do. All I need is you to get me in the building. Get me in the building, and I take care of rest. Oh, Joe. See, that's the seat. There you go, see.

I got you in the building and see what I supposed that I'd have been doing is going straight there. Me, I don't got you in the building and I got both of us caught. I got both. I got both of us caught. I got you. Listen, this is what I used to tell Carson Palmer before every game. This is what I used to tell my offense are coordinated before every game.

Come hell of high water, no matter what happens. If you put me in position to succeed, I'm going to make you look good. I'm going to make you look good. Trust me. Baby, chat. Ocho Cinco Johnson, I'm Shannon Sharp, and this is Nightcap. Make sure you check your boy out tomorrow on first take 10 a.m. Eastern, and we'll be back with you on Sunday night.

Nightcap, the show. Holl at me. We out of the air. If you need me, call me. My number's still the same. 786, 23, 5, 54, 12. I'll let your boy. Therapist, counselor, matchmaker. No.

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