The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Nightcap - Lions Dominate Broncos, Bengals Comeback Win Over Vikings, Colts Blowout Steelers

Episode Date: December 17, 2023

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to the Detroit Lions dominant win over the Denver Broncos, Jake Browning leading the Cincinnati Bengals in an overtime comeback win over the Minnesota Vikings, the Indianapolis Colts blowing out the Pittsburgh Steelers & much more! 06:30 - Lions vs Broncos 16:20 - Bengals vs Vikings 26:30 - Colts vs Steelers 37:20 - Kadarius Toney Didn’t Learn His Lesson 47:00 - Marriage/Relationships 58:15 - Loyalty To Teams You Played For 01:13:30 - Unwritten Locker Room Rules 01:18:30 - The Type Of Women Athletes Look For 01:31:00 - Where Does Justin Herbert Rank Amongst Top QBs? 02:07:20 - Eating Racoon And Booty 02:25:30 - Best Xmas Gifts They’ve Received 02:35:00 - 15 Questions To Ask On A First Date (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #Club #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Man, I am who I am because of that community, man, where I come from. I left Liberty City without really leaving, without really leaving. And so it was, it was awesome, man, to be able to smell them flowers, man. For all the work I put in the philanthropy and all that I've given back to that community, man, that was really dope. That was really dope with him. You might have left physically, but you never left. Oh, no. Mentally, emotionally.

So congratulations on the war. Very much deserved. I want to shout out, Ocho, I want to shout out a couple of people that's been here for day one. The moment we launched this site, there are a couple of people that's been here. And what they do, Ocho, when we send out the link that we're about to go live and say, you know, 10 minutes, 15 minutes for 30 minutes, they'll get in the chat and they'll start talking amongst themselves. So some of the day one, Marshaun Hunter, Mariah Leonard, and Tonya Redding. Thank you. Thank you so much.

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Make sure you hit that subscribe button because that's the only way that we're going to grow. So thank you very much. Let's start with the game that just ended. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, you forgot, baby. You see the shirt I got on? Okay, okay. Yeah, you want to talk about your rat.

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Don't do that. You know what it is. You know what it is. The greatest band in the land. The greatest band ever assembled. Shout out to Shelby Chipman and Dr. White. Okay. The game that just ended moments ago, the Lions dominated the Broncos 4217.

Jared Goff threw five touchdown passes. He was 24, 34, 278, five touchdowns. The Lions are now 10 and 4 and can clinch a playoff spot with the Seattle loss on Monday. They can clinch the division title for the first time with a win over the Vikings on Christmas Eve. So watching this game, what was one of your big takeaways from the game? I mean, my big takeaway from the game is the lions look like the lions that we used to seeing throughout the entirety of the season. Obviously, they had a few, they had a few games where we were like, what happened? What is going with Jared Gough?

He was turning the ball over a lot. And those turnovers cost them, cost the team, you know, some of those games and some of those points. They weren't able to overcome that. But today, Jerry Gough looked like himself. Obviously, you said, 24 for 24 for 278, 5 TDs, Amman St. Brown. Boy, that boy, nice, man. Yeah.

That boy is the real deal, man. He was 7 for 112 with a TD today. Jamir Gibbs. Man, listen, I'm not saying he's Chris Johnson, but there are only so many backs in the NFL that can hit their head off the goalpost from anywhere on the field. And he's one of them. And I can't wait to see him break one just so I can see him get out there and scat one time. Just one time.

He played well today. God damn Sam Leporta. He was very efficient as well. He legit. He might be. He and Kittle might be the Pro Bowl are representative for tight ends in the NFC. He's really, really good. Okay, okay, I think so you're right.

Because he's having, he has great numbers and they're winning. Yeah, yeah. But they just look good, man. They look good all the way around, especially defensive. But I wanted to focus more on the offense because the offense has sputtered a little bit, especially with golf and the turnovers. But that offense look good today, very, very efficient. They look very, very good.

Everybody got involved. You mentioned, you mentioned Leport to the tight. in. You mentioned Amman St. Brown, wide receiver. Jameson Williams had a big game. Josh Reynolds making plays. You mentioned David Montgomery. He starts the game, but Jemir Gibbs comes in, spells him. And he's one of the few backs. And I get what you're saying, Ocho, he looks like he's running fast. A lot of guys don't look like they're moving. No, he looks like he's fast. He looked like he's trying to get someplace in a hurry. But they were really, they were really good. Once they got their rhythm, because if you remember, Ocho, the first, if I'm not mistaken, the first three drives, they

punted the football. Yeah. But then all of a sudden they get their rhythm and they go touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, punt, touchdown again. And so it just shows you the explosiveness that they have. I thought the Broncos were moving the ball fairly well and then one turnover changed the whole complexion of a ball game. The whole complex.

Trying to throw the screen, right? It was a screen, right? Well, it was sometimes, Ocho, you know what? And I get it, you know, trying to get the ball away. But sometimes you just eat it. Sometimes you just eat and say, you know what? that's a 10-yard loss. Let me come back and try to get it on second down.

Let me try to recoup some of that on third down. But the thing that you don't want to do is turn the football over. Right. And even though the Broncos' defense didn't give up points is the fact that it took a lot out of your sale offensive. Right. And they really could never get back on track. And then we saw, I saw, they scored a touchdown and they call off sides. And I still didn't see who the offside was on.

Yeah. But I guess it is saying one of the offensive linemen, helmet was over the ball. But I couldn't see it. But maybe you saw. something that I didn't see. Maybe somebody in the chat saw something that I didn't see. The calls are getting a little bit ridiculous, a little bit ridiculous now. And now obviously because of what happened,

what happened, obviously because of what happened with Kedaras Tony, now they're just going to be called and they're going to be nitpicking and calling every little thing. So now everything has to be perfect when it comes to the linemen. Because you know what happened, Ocho. You know what happened. Andy Rees sent all, what they do, what they do is that they get all the footage from every game. And it's like, this guy's outside.

Look at that defensive line. He's outside. They send it into the league office. They fit it into the league. And then the league, the league office tell all the referees. Now you got, now it ruin it for every goddamn body. That's it. That's it.

You know, hey, you know how somebody do something that they tell? Man, why are you told you ruining it for everybody? Bro, you got caught. You just go ahead and bite that bullet. Don't you worry about everybody else. Not everybody got to be on the beach. Everybody got us something. But they were, Quinn Menerans, they said he was offside.

Said his helmet was over where the center had. Maybe he got. Maybe he got a big head. What if his head big and he really, he really can't help or control him being off-sides? But here's my thing to Ocho. I don't know what, because I saw,

you saw that play and then you see Sean Payton light into Russell Wilson. I don't know how he expect Rosa to see that to tell him, hey man, you need to back up. You think that's what it was for, though? I don't. I don't know. Honestly, I don't know.

You know it's funny. You know what's funny is I like that. I like. the coach getting into his quarterback when something isn't going right. I think it's a cardinal sin or rule number one. You never chastity as your quarterback. You never chast to add as your quarterback. In front of everybody,

you always do it behind closed doors. You whisper it or you're putting aside. And you definitely don't do it on television. Yeah, you definitely don't do it on that. But the fact I think that the relationship, in order for them, even though they lost today, for that relationship and that match racing process that Sean Payton and Russell has, I think for it to get where they wanted to go,

things like that, you need to be able to be able to take that. Because he expects greatness out of you in order for the Broncos and that team to get what they need to get to. Whatever mistakes or whatever he was chastised and Russell wasn't for, you can't make those mistakes. You can't, whatever it might be. But I don't know if he made a mistake because if you remember, Ocho, it was the touchdown and they called it off sides. Right. So I'm just trying to figure out how Russ was at fault. Russ was great on that drive.

Yeah, it must have been something we didn't see. It had to be something to see. Because he hit the running back on a Texas route. He almost got in. He did the pitch to Giovante Williams. He almost got in. And then they ended up running the little belly play to the fullback. He did get in, but they threw the flags in.

He's outside. So I don't know. So maybe it was something that transpired Ocho during the drive that we didn't see. Right. But that's very strange to see the head coach light up the quarterback. A Russell Wilson type. Now, we've seen him jump all over. or Mullins, the guy that

filled in for that the backup in Minnesota. We've seen them get on second, you know, second, a level of third, you know, third string quarterback.

Right. But never, never the start up, especially of that ill. Right. And so for, for that to happen, something had to seriously go wrong.

But like I said, maybe we missed it. It couldn't have been on the three plays that I looked at in which the, they run a little Texas route, the running back gets stopped at the one, Javante Williams. I thought he got in.

He gets stopped at the one, and then they run the belly to the fullback. He ended up getting in, and then they called offside. So I really don't, I really don't know what Sean Payton got so upset about. Yeah, but you know what else?

You know what I think about it? The fact that, do you remember, when's the last time the Lions went to the playoffs? You remember where year was? Probably, no, I know the last time they won the division was 93.

Okay. Okay, last time they won the division. I think they went to the playoffs. in 2011? It might be 2011. 2011? Well,

it must have been a wild card, huh? Yeah, they weren't a division now. Yeah, well,

listen, they don't, they're going, I'm correct. Oh, I was, I mean, I just say,

Ash, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, you know, I just, yeah, they did. Yeah,

I think, I think they're going going to win the division this year too. Listen, the Lions's remaining schedule.

They have the Vikings. Christmas Eve. Christmas Eve. Then they got the Cowboys. if I'm not mistaken, right? Yes. The lions, the lines of four and O.

This season, the lines of four and O in prime time games, they haven't lost. Right. They haven't lost in prime time. Obviously, that's the best, that's the best in the NFL. And I think they're going to win their first division title since 93. Since 93. Actually, they went again, they went to the playoffs also in 2016, right? Yeah, I see it.

Yeah, 2016. They lost in the wild card to the Seahawks, to the Seahawks. Seattle Seahawks, yeah. But I thought I thought the Lions defense, A.G. Aaron Glenn has a play. That's my boy. That's my boy. They get after your quarterback. They pursue to the football.

Nobody gives up. If somebody runs down the field, you see defensive lineman chasing. That's what you like to see. The DBs are not giving up on plays. They can see no catches. They're fighting to the very end trying to pull the ball out. So you like to see that. The Broncos defense did not have one of their better playing games.

But, you know, sometimes sometimes when you're on the road and the home team gets it rolling, it's hard to stop that. Yeah, it is. It's hard to stop it. Yep, yep. And one person can't stop it at all.

No, no. Somebody to make a play. A big play. Yeah, you get a pick, a scooping score, something like that. To hit the quarterback, the ball comes out. But they could. You know what I really like, man?

Who did? From the lion's. that guy then Brian Branch. Oh, yeah, from Alabama. Oh, man, man. Boy, that young fella all over the place, man. I like him. I like him a lot.

Oh, they got those linebackers' hustle. What's the one from Iowa? What's the one from Iowa that won the award? Yeah, yeah. He won the Buckets Award a couple years ago, yeah. But both of those insidebackers chase the football. They down here guys. Downhill guy and sideline to sideline.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. The Bengals, your bingles, winning over time to keep their playoff. Who they? Who they? 2724. But I believe Minnesota head coach should be fired for throwing the ball. But first of all, Ocho.

Yes, sir. The only team that can run the tush push is who? Oh, the Eagles. And it's all based on the offensive line. I'm sure the head coach knew that. You knew that one for the work. What are you doing? And you run it twice.

And you got a running back that's already had run for 132 yards. And you don't give him the ball. ball once. And then you have your smallest offensive line, the smallest offensive player doing the pushing. Yeah. You ain't got a, you ain't got a 300 pound offensive lineman. You ain't got none of that. You got a 108, 170 pound little wire receiver, pushing them in the back. Yeah. And you know, this is the funny thing. This is the funny thing about it. It's all about matchups, skill, leverage, um, uh, what's the other word I'm looking for when it comes to that

tier alignment, the meat and potatoes of it. That offers the line with the Eagles and the offensive line for the goddamn Vikings is night and day. Yes. Night and day. The Devens of the line with the Bengals matches up extremely well and much better than the offensive line of that of the Minnesota Vikings. That is why the push didn't work.

A inch, a yard? You know how much a yard is? Yeah. That's this. You couldn't get that. You couldn't get that twice. What does that tell you? Right.

You got, well, you got no push from your offensive line. You weren't fin of getting that. Cup, come, God, without. Yeah. Right. Well, Rita had gotten hurt, so he wasn't in the end. He got her early in the ball game. I forgot the other guy thing.

But they didn't get any push, Ojo. And so, but here's my thing. Okay, you ran that play on third down. Why not give it to your running back who'd been running all day? Chela had been running all up and down the field now. He'd been running up and down the field now, but you got to think about it. Now, we're on the goal line. Do you really want to run out on the goal line?

And then you know they're bringing the house with the ball in his hand on the goal line or you want your backup quarterback with the ball on the goal line. Which one you won't? I know one thing. You know what happened? You know what it happened. Obviously, I think if they were to hand the ball off, you were the blitzed, and you won't, you won't going to get that.

How about you do? They were dead. Guess what the Bengals did. Guess what the Bengals did? The Bengals tried to push, and on four-thout, who did they get the ball to? Joe Mixing. What did Joe Mixing? What did Joe Mixing do?

He got blasted, he spun off the guy and got the ball in the end zone. That's what you do. you give the ball to guys that are used to carrying the ball and go-to-go situation. Quarterbacks are not used to carrying the ball and go-to-go situation. And on the fourth down, Mullins, because the center got stymied,

he ended up fumbling the ball. And so now he lose control of the ball. He gets no momentum. He got pushed back further than what the original line of scrimmage was. Right, right, right, right. Sometimes coaches, Ocho, they overthink it. They overthink it. Listen, there's a reason.

why you got Chandler back there. You was willing to move on from Dalvin Cook for a reason. Yeah. You was willing to move on from Dalvin Cook. Yeah. So obviously, plus also the other guy, forget the other guy that was running. Chandler might be a rookie, but there's the, what's the other guy name?

The running back. He had a fumbling problem, though. So he might be, he had a fumbling problem early this year. Right. Hey, them got, man, my goddamn bangles, man. Listen, the They found a way to win. They found a way to win. And the funny thing about it is towards the end of the game, I was tweeting out what was going to happen in succession.

And I was right. I was damn there right. Madison number two, right? Yeah, Madison. He was the running back. Yeah. Yeah. So I was tweeting out what was going to happen.

For some reason, by the Florida game, I could just tell. I said, listen, he threw a pass to T. Higgins. I think it was in the fourth quarter. I said, man, you got to keep that ball in bounds. And just give T. a chance because the DB was too short. T6-5, 6-4. They came back, what's up?

What happened? You and I talked about this all the time. Yes, sir. What don't you let a quarterback do? You don't let him roll out the pocket to his throwing hand. To a throw-in-hand, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He rolled out the pocket and he hit T. Higgins. So what did he do in overtime?

What did they let him do again? Escape to the right side, and he hit void on the run. So you deserve exactly what you got. You got. Because you know you don't let a quarterback. you keep him away from his throwing hand. If it's the right-handed quarterback, you force him left. If it's a left-handed quarterback, you force it right.

That's on the D-N, no. That's the D-N. No. Yes. You got, yes. Boy, he can't get collapsed like that and allow him to get outside. Yes, yes. That's what I'm saying. See, sometimes you get so caught up and trying to make a play.

But if I can't make a play doing my responsibility, because now when they cut the tape on, they're going to say what? You're going to be looking at all your defense's a player. Like, bro, you got contained. You can't let him outside. You got to keep him inside. So now you let the guy escape to his dominant hand twice. Once he makes an outstanding play.

T. Higgins makes an outstanding catch. Crazy. He points the ball. Crazy. And then in the process of going down, he throws his hand back and he gets the ball over the power. That's great. Listen, I do the rating for Madden. I'm going to change T. Higgins' awareness to 99.

Because his awareness after making that catch, he can't even see the goal line. No. This is the way to just to put the bar just to reach out knowing exactly where he is. Man, that was dope. Man, you know, I'm excited for my bangles. I went out on the limb and said that you know it. Damn, we out. We out.

You say, no, we're not out the playoffs. Okay, our quarterback heard. Joe Burroughs hurt. Jake Browning is the first quarterback, first Bangham quarterback, the one of his first three or his first, hold of me. Three or four. When three of his first since boomersized in 1984, for we going to the playoffs.

And I said, I said it on inside NFL, we're going to over, we're going to leap over the goddamn, the goddamn, yeah, the goddamn Browns and Steelers. And we got them down the Browns and Stills. And I'm telling you, we're going to surprise somebody in that first round of playoffs. We got the Steelers left. We got the Chiefs and we got the Browns.

Two of those we're going to win. I mean, I'm just, let me just be fair. I'm just say, I'm going to be fair. The Division games, I think we're going to win. Chiefs, I'm not sure what's going to happen, but either way, If we went those two of those three, we're going to, we're getting the wild card. Yeah. Continue to seven to get you.

Oh, yes. That'll get you in now. That'll get you in there. Tray hit. Brown. Salute Tray Henderson, baby. Yeah. He made, he, he's playing well.

They're three and one since Joe Burroughs suffered a season injury or wrist injury. Browning had mentioned that he was motivated because the Vikings cut him in 2021. Yeah. And it said it bothered him and how they cut him because he said, They said they were, they said they're going to put him on the practice squad and go to the hotel. And he waited and he waited and waited. And his agent called him and said, they're not putting, they're releasing you. They're not putting you on no practice squad.

He said they did it that way they handled it. Right. If you don't, okay, if you're going to put them in a practice squad. Okay, I'm cool with that. Right, right. But don't lie. Don't have me just sitting there waiting in the hotel and y'all do some old dirty connive and stuff like your idea. That's a nasty business.

And you're funny, you ain't see the clip. You ain't see the clip with Browning screaming. you shouldn't have cut me. You ain't see that? No, I just, I didn't see it. Yeah, you got to read his lip. You shouldn't have cut me. Yeah, I'm glad.

And he said the B word. Jake Brad. You got his look back. Get your leg back, boy, that's what I'm talking about. And then he was hit with a drug test after the game. Right after the game. I think that's something new, Ocho, because I remember when. It never happened to you?

No, not after the game. I got drug tested Monday morning. I got drug tested on Tuesday morning or Friday. They keep saying it's random, but nobody got drug tested more in Denver than Shannon Sharp. I said, well, how is it random? And I'm getting drug tested every year more than everybody else. Everybody else, right. Yeah, that's funny.

I think I got once after a game, and I think it might have been the Chargers game. We played the Chargers. I forgot what year was. All I know it was, Cromarty's rookie year when he was with the Chargers. I had 260 for 3TD to 260 for two drug tests right after the game. drunk there's somebody right about i think i'm like hi that there's no way that's random i mean what what drug they think you take you i mean you need a high dose if you take it if you take it if you take a steroid no no i would no i would take a gdm back then gdm yeah gd i'm i'm not you don't you laugh and i was

taking gdm back then oh lord and you don't know what gdm is no what is he old joe got damn mcdonalds well they should they should have taken your cholesterol because that will was through the roof. What's your cholesterol. Yeah, but it was funny. And certain people, there's no reason. Listen,

I'm every bit of one. Why are you testing a kicker or a punter? Yeah. I'm a bit of 180. And some of them, and have you seen some of their bodies? Yeah. If they take the wrong kind of steroids or they backfired or something.

Yeah. Yeah. That's crazy. Yeah. Congratulations to the Bengals. Jake Browning played an unbelievable ball game. He, the Minnesota had an opportunity,

Ocho. to put some separation early. Remember, Mothers threw two interceptions. Yeah, yeah. One on the one on like the two-yard line and the other, he threw another one. He was going down and the D-Lyman laying on his back.

Back. That, he would never get an easier interception than his life. That ain't none but the football guys right there. That way, you're exactly right. The Colts hammer the Steelers. Gardner Minchu keeps their playoff holds alive,

threw for 215 yards, three scores, three different receivers. Andy Trail, 13-0-0 midway through the second quarter but then can score 30 unanswered points. The Colts are now 8 and 6 have won 5 or 6 to move into the

bottom of the AFC South into playoff contention. They currently hold the number 7 position in the AFC. Oh no, they said, they say they say they want that playoff. They want that last, that wild card.

The Colts. Venture Magic. Garner Minchew. Bad child. I play list. I like Minchu. I like men's I mean, he's nice. He's cool. He has a nice supporting cast. They did well today.

But again, they did play the Steelers. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. They did play the Steelers. They did tell me all the time. It don't matter who out there. I mean, I know it don't matter who I'm out there. But look at the product. The Steelers are lost last two, not last three. You know, they ain't no threat, which is why I said.

I said it three. I said it two, three weeks ago. The Bengals are going to come back. They're going to be a threat to y'all. A threat to who? They're going to be a threat to the baseball. And the coast don't want to see us. The coast don't have nothing. No, I'm saying the Steelers going to be a threat to you guys.

No, they're not. No, they're not. No, they're not. No, they're not. They're not playing with us. Steelers need the overhaul, Ocho. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, slow down. Slow down.

The Steelers are having one bad season. I don't know about no overhaul or ready. Their coach, got damn Tomlin past 17 years. He's been above 500 every single year. Every single year. I don't know about the overhaul. Oh, sure, that's not the standard. That's not the standard for the Steelers.

The Steelers are about championships. We got to start rewarding, oh, he above 500. That's not why they pay you $8, $9 million to be above $500. They pay you for championships. And to get the team in the playoffs, make deep playoff run. When was the last time the Steelers made a deep playoff run? Well, I mean, that's a minute. Well, wait a minute.

This is a new team. This is the new regime. You got new players. It doesn't just happen like that. It don't just happen like that. You have to build. You have to build your team. We got a whole.

we hope what we do here on this podcast is we hold people accountable. Even the people that we like, we got to hold them accountable. Okay. So you think it's time for overhaul for real? No, I'm saying. I mean, you said the word overhaul. So I mean, you mean, players. Players.

But Mike got to do a better job. We got to stop where he's, oh, he's never had a losing season. Uh-huh, uh-huh. Well, it's been a long time that we thought the Steelers were going to be a threat to win something, too, other than the division. Right, right, right, right. Now, I get it. A lot of their, you know, Ben got old.

They held on the band. Ben held on a lot longer than what he should have. And when you got guys like that, and that's what the Steelers, the Steelers are known for loyalty. Especially they're really, really, really good players. If you go back and look at those 70 Steelers, they didn't get cut. They just got old and they got rid of them. And that's why they struggled, you know, late 80th until the 90s.

They had that one year in the 90s because Lambert and Ham and, and Joe Meanjo and L.C., and Greenwood and Mel Blunt, and all those guys got old at once. Right, right, right. Well, if you got to the Hall of Fame if they get old at once, Ocho, you're going to be a bad shape

trying to replace all that because the likelihood of you finding replacement players for those guys aren't very good. Right. But the Steelers, man, Ocho, they need quarterback. Okay, let's stop right there.

Go ahead. Let's stop right there. I say they don't need an overhaul. You know, I'm a Kenny Pickett fan. I am a huge fan of Kenny Pickett. Oh, Joe, he ain't there, though, Joe. Okay. Let me finish.

Let me finish. Let me finish. Kenny Pickett is a good quarterback. I don't think he hasn't mature to the point where Kenny Pickett is the answer to being a franchise quarterback and a quarterback that can get the Steelers back to prominent winning consistently, meaning every time we have a season, we're going to be in contention year and year out. When you had Big Ben, you knew year and or you're out, you're going to be in goddamn contention to be playing in the playoffs and the chance of the Lombardi trophy. I don't think Kenny Pickett is that guy just yet. Obviously, it's only year two. Year two or year three for Kenny?

Two. It's only year two. So, you know, I say give him another year and see where he is. And every team that all teams already that don't have a franchise quarterback are a quarterback away, are a quarterback away from change. changing their franchise. That's all it comes down to. That's all it come down to when you finally find that franchise quarterback. All you have to do is bill around him.

Because they have the weapons. He had to support and cast. You got the runoffbacks. You got the receivers, Deonté Johnson and got them. The attitude is terrible. The attitude is fierce poor, Ocho. I mean,

let's think about why they're upset. Understand why you just mentioned it. You just said it out yourself. You just said it yourself. Ocho, we've all had, Ocho, we've all been in a situation where the quarterback was left in ideal. Right, right, right.

But that's frustrating. That's frustrating. I'm sure you got upset, too, when your quarterback was less than, well, you got lucky. Well, shit, you had goddamn John anyway. I did. I had, I had, uh,

you was fortunate. Everybody wasn't as fortunate as you was when they played. I played 14 years. I had John for nine of those years. And also, John missed half a season one year. But Ocho, here's the thing. For me, I always tried to put on a positive, because I didn't want the younger guys

to think that behavior was acceptable. Right, right, right. I always, I came to work. I was professional at all times. I came to work on time. I went to meeting on time. I practiced hard. I did what I was supposed to because I wanted to show

the younger guys. This is what it takes to be successful. You want to have a long career. You want to win. This is what you need to do. Yeah, I got frustrated. Ocho, yes, I want the ball. Yes, I believe I could help this team out of this funk

if I were to get the ball. But, I mean, I just want to know what was pouting and throwing helmets and throwing water coolers. What the hell was that going to help? That one going to give me the ball. It won't get to the ball. But being able to, it's hard for receivers when you get frustrated.

Yeah. Sometimes your emotions get the best of you. You know, I'm trying to think, have I ever, gotten like that on the sideline. I think maybe once. Yeah, maybe once. Maybe once. I was one that didn't want to show up any of my teammates.

I didn't want to show up my coach. Exactly. So I was able to control it because I knew the camera was always on me. So I kind of kept it mellow even though I was frustrated on the inside. And you could tell about my body language when things weren't going well. Or they were allowing another team to dictate whether I can get the ball or not. And that shit really pissed me off. That shit really pissed me up.

That grinded my goddamn testicles when they allowed another team to dictate whether I can get off or not. That bothered me. We did not game plan and have meetings for hours and hours and hours of practice and watch hours and hours of film to come out here on a Sunday and tell them, well, if you play this defense, we can't get the ball to 85. That don't sit right with me. That just don't sit right with me. Because if that's the case, then I ain't need the goddamn practice. You're going to let them do me like that. That's just my mindset in the way I thought, you know? But, I mean, that's neither here nor there. But I just like and and the thing is like I'm a big believe in that showing up the quarterback also.

Yeah. And that was the thing. Never that. Never that. Never that. See, that was the relationship that I had with John. I was never going to show him up. All I asked, look, give me an opportunity to protect myself because I'm going to do my best to come down with it.

Right. Or it's going to be incomplete. Yeah. And I'm never, I'm never, I'm never going to give up on a plate. And so he did he didn't like if he missed you, you like. Oh, man. As a fact, yo, I did that once the Carson. We were playing the Steelers.

He overshot a ball. He overshot it. It was out of reach and I was wide open. And I took him a chestrap and I snapped that bitch as soon as the ball. You know, it was out of reach. Man, I walked back to the huddle. That nigger Carson said, man,

if you ever motherfucker do some shit like that again, I won't throw your ass the ball the rest of the game. That's what, hey. Hey, that was the A. You like it. You like catching football? I like, yeah. He said you won't get no more.

Listen, I ain't never seen Naya snap on me like that. One time, I never forget, we was playing the Steelers. And the fact that when we're playing the Steelers, the balls and opportunities I'm going to get are already slim to none. Because they, when I come out the huddle, they are making the defense to play call based on where I line up. So I already know the two or three balls or four balls that might. I got to make the most dude.

Yeah, you got to make the most of him. And when he missed that one, man, I snapped my motherfucker and chinstruck, walking back to the huddle. And man, he came into my face mask and said, man, if you ever motherfucking showed me up like that again, you'll never catch a motherfucker fucking ball again.

I ain't even say nothing. Because, God damn, it was a primetime game. It was a primetime game. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I hope when we edit, I hope somebody could find that clip. Somebody got to find that clip.

Oh, yeah. You gotta be a good reference. Yeah, John didn't play that. And so I always made sure I'm like, hey, bro, don't do that. Don't do that. That is what we do. Right. So.

I lost myself, though, that one time. I lost myself that one time. But see, that's the thing, though, Ocho, is that I didn't show him up. And when I dropped the pass or I did something. Right. Hey, we talked about that on the sideline. Or we talked about that in the middle. room. He's like, hey, I need you a little deeper on this one right here. Right, right. I need

you, you know, so forth and so on. We had a conversation because I know he didn't like me to show him up, but he knows that you, hey, all that yelling and cursing. Who are you talking to like? Yeah, what about you talking to like that? I know, that way, you ain't talking to me like, man, please. So we had a, we had a great relationship. We had a great understanding of the things that how we talked, how we communicated with each other, get each other's point across. So check this out. Ocho, Cadarius Tony need to let it go, bro.

Now, Andy Reed was fined $100,000 for criticizing the official. Patrick Mahomes was fined $50,000. Now, you do know, you know, I know, they got those penalties because they are, was really, they was yelling at the officials really talking to Cadarius Tony. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They got docked $150,000 coming from him. This is what he told reporters. Whether it was an inch, two inches or whatever in front of the ball,

the referee got a job to let me know. He doesn't. He didn't make no effort. You watch the video. He didn't make no effort to say anything, no alignment. So apparently he wanted to do that regardless. Ocho, football 101. It's the two A's alignment and assignment.

You can't do a damn thing on the field if you don't know your alignment or your assignment. Yeah, yeah. That's your responsibility. Yeah. Instead of saying, you know what, again, what did I tell you, okay? I say, see, he ain't got no personal accountability. I told that. See, I've been telling you that for the longest time.

He just told you. Instead of saying, you know what, I was wrong. I lined up offside. I've got to do a better job of making sure my alignment is correct because that falls on Cadarius, Tony. That falls on me. Right. But I was wrong and I let my team down. You see what he did?

He put the blame on the official. Accountability is everything, Ocho. So it tells me he still having to learn this lesson. Yeah, I think he learned his lesson. I think he learned his lesson. Forget what he said, but I'm guarantee you when he comes back for the next following game. Wait, who they got? Who they got next?

The Chiefs got next? Oh, they got the Patriots. The Chief got the Patriots. The Chief got the Patriots. I guarantee you don't line up off side of this game. I guarantee he don't line up all sides the game after that. I guarantee you when they get to the goddamn playoffs, I bet it don't line up off sides.

So in other words, are they going to make any more bone-headed plays? No. I bet he don't. Let's put, let's put some, I bet, I bet, I bet $100. Okay, bet it.

I bet $100 because Darius Tony don't make no more mistakes. Bet a hundred. Bet it. I bet, and I bet, I bet, not a hundred. He don't drop no balls. I'm like Chris Brown. Run it. Right.

See if he can run it, run it, run it. Say less. But, oh, Cho. I know what you mean, though. It was about to die down. That happened a week ago. So instead of, look here, my girlfriend would say, boy, the reporters asked him.

He just not savvy enough with the reporters to say they ignored. He just answered probably with no ill intent, just answering the question in general. Intent only matters to him. Right. You know the difference between. murder and manslaughter is intent. One you intentionally

meant to kill him, the other you accidentally. But the victim is just as dead. So intent only matters to the defendant, not the victim because he's just as dead. So whatever his intense were, it did not matter because that's what he said. Hey, you used to watch Matt Locke? I was a criminal justice major.

Okay, I was for the second. You sound like a goddamn lawyer, man. You know, I was good. I like that. If that football thing that work out, That was gone. Okay. Okay.

Yeah. I like that. I like that. But that's the thing to Ocho, you know what? He's like that at some point in time, remember you and I talked about it, how some people will blame everybody else for what's going on in their life. Oh, it's the this with that. It was the police and it was the government and it was my girlfriend.

It was my boyfriend. It was my mom. They're not helping me. Right, right, right. So where's your culpability in any of this? Right. Right. You ain't, so you ain't do nothing.

You know what the funny thing about it is? Is I think that's not just a Kedare's Tony problem. That's a problem with society and- Of course, absolutely. At time, never wanted to take accountability. Most of the time, it's leading to the female, the female species. You know, I think they have an issue with taking accountability. The finger is always pointing the opposite way and not actually seeing it at times.

You know what? Maybe I am the problem. And the same thing with us, what is fellas. But it's something that I think a lot of people, A lot of people struggle with and blaming others and not seeing them being the issue at any time. Yeah. And for me, Ocho, I've never been, I've never been one that was too proud to say I was wrong, to say I was too proud to say I was sorry. Right.

Even as I've ascended through the economic pyramid. Right, right. Even as I become more known. I'm not too big to say I'm sorry. I'm not too big to say I'm wrong because if I was wrong, I was wrong. I was wrong. I'm wrong. I have a question.

Yes. As long as you've been alive, as long as you've been dating, just in general in life. Yeah. How many times have you ever heard a woman for one take accountability for her actions or said sorry? Be honest with me. Now, if you have to think about it a little bit, be honest me. How many times you had a woman say, I'm sorry when she's messed up or actually take accountability for actions for her actions?

Well, it. that would be really hard to say because I would probably have to do. Thank you. I would have to. No, Ocho. You just use your proof of point, baby. That's all.

But here's the thing. The fact that you can't even, the fact that you can't even tell me right off the top of your head, that gives it that, what does that tell you? Ocho, I am 55. Right.

I've dated some, I've dated some women in my time. Right. And here's the thing, Ocho, sometimes I didn't give a damn what they told me. I was out. They could have said I was wrong.

I'm sorry. My bad. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. You don't get people, you don't believe in second chance? Yes, I absolutely do. I absolutely do. Okay, okay. But, Ocho, but when you no longer want to be in a situation, right? It doesn't matter what they say. Okay. And just, and it's been, I've been in that very situation where I've told someone I'm sorry and I apologize. But they say, Shannon, it's too late. Okay. Yeah, it happens, Ocho. Wait a minute. That's why. That's so hard. I know I'm going to let you finish. But when I look at you as someone I look up to, not only football player, accolades and all that stuff, but obviously a father, a business man, an entrepreneur, what you're doing with TV. Just, I'm trying to sit here and even fathom a woman sitting here telling you, oh, Shannon, I don't want to be what you know. That don't even sound right to me, honestly. No, that don't even sound right. Well, maybe they didn't see the motherfucking light. I don't mean to, I apologize.

Maybe they didn't see the light and where you were going in the fucking vision to say, oh, I'm up and leaving. a unk, who the fuck leaving unk? Not the one popping them goddamn diamonds. When it was a cover that, Ochoo. He'll be able to call it that. Oh, no way. Oh, no way, no house. But you know what, Ocho? You can't stand

in the bed always. You got to come up out to bed. Hey, you might be in the bed. You know your boy might be in the bed. 25, 35 minutes. But you know what I'm saying? Right, right, right. You got breakfast. You got lunch. You're in the couch and you're talking to watch. But I think the thing is everybody, no matter how

how good looking a woman is, somebody has said, I don't want to be with you anymore. No matter how popular man is, no matter how much money he's made, somebody has said, you know, I want to move on. And so when people say, oh, she only with him because he got this or he always looked. Right. It's just as easy to love a rich man is a poor man. So what you think is supposed to do? Well, I don't want that rich man.

I want the poor man to show you that I really love him. Do y'all sound foolish? people do you understand how foolish you sound come on that woman should go be with a someone if somebody wants to be with her that's making 10 million, 50 million, 100 million a year to prove that she loves this man no I'm gonna go be with the person that makes

100,000. What? Come on preacher. Who? What scenario? Stop sounding dumb. Right. You sound dumb when you say that. It's just as easy to fall in love with a rich man as it is a poor man. Yes, so. I have a question. Everything you just said, is it safe to say

regardless of who it is you date, whether rich or poor, that everyone, relationship or whatever they have going on, situation, marriage, do you think everything comes

with an expiration date? Possibly. It all depends because Ocho, it's work every day. Yeah. It's like, yeah.

Today, podcast is not the same as Thursday podcast. And tonight's podcast won't be the same as tomorrow. And tomorrow won't be the same as Monday. And Monday won't be the same as Wednesday, the Thursday, and so forth and so on. So a lot of times when people think when they get married, people think the job is over. What I'm married now? No. No. You got to, this is what I tell guys when he wants to get to the NFL. I say, now your journey is not ended. Your journey is just starting. You dreamed of being here. Now the journey starts. So when you get married, I've never been married, but I also, I've been in relationships and I know a lot of mistakes that I've made is that I got into the relationship and I stopped working.

I didn't work nearly as hard in the relationship as I did to get the individual. Come on, Pratchel me. And I'm not foolish enough or I'm not naive enough to know that. I know that. Hold on. Let me write that down. Let me make sure. I don't, wait a minute.

Let me get my motherfucking pen and paper because I'm not going to stop working. You got me fucked up. I think I'm for me. Yeah, you got to work. You got to work. because the rail that you met is different than the rail right now. And she's going to be different tomorrow. And so are you.

Right. So there's a continuation that when you're in a relationship, that you've got to continue to work in order for it to grow. I mean, let me ask you a question, Ocho. When you buy plans, or you buy something, do you just ward it one time or do you have to continuously ward it? Or do you have to continuously tend to it? We've got to tend to it all the time.

I mean, obviously I see relationship is similar to the upkeep. You know, if you have a rose garden, if you have plants, you know, I hate using that analogy, but you see where I'm going with it. Yeah, but you were talking about upkeep and the maintenance and the thing in order for it to grow. And in the same thing, her and I have these talks all the time. And I always, and I like to have the tough conversations. How are we going to last? How are we going to defeat the odds? You know, relationships and marriage.

You see what the statistics are, right? Yeah. How are we going to? How are we going to outdo that? What's going to make us any different? How are we going to beat the odds? Oh, so how are we going to evolve or are we going to grow apart? I'm going to grow together.

Now, we have the craziest conversations. You have to be. Before we take that motherfucker walk, not out. Because once we take that walk down now, oh, baby, ain't no coming back. Yeah. You don't coming back. I need to be. I need to dip.

All that bullshit out the motherfucking way now ahead of time. What's it going to be like to live with you? What's it going to be like when you're mad? I need to see you in all your seasons. I need to see you in all your seasons before I even walk down and down. Yeah. Well, the greatest trick to survival is adaptability. Oh, yeah.

And the greatest trick to sustain anything is to being able to adapt. Because if your person, you can't be so rigid in your thought process is that it's this way. And when she's going through her things, you like suck it up. I mean, there are times that you got to give tough love and to make sure that, but you also got to be that supportive. And I haven't always been that. A lot of times I was. more concerned about me. Come on, now. Hey, I need you to support me to support me. Keep me

propped up when she needed me at her, when she needed me at my best. When she needed me the most, I wasn't there. And also, I'm, I'm, I didn't know that at the time. It took me being out of that situation. And a lot of time because I spent a lot of time alone is that now I sit back and I have the luxury of hindsight, the magnificent sign of knowing today, what, I didn't know yesterday. So now I'm like, and you try not to, but when you've done something as long as I have, it's hard to break that. And so I've tried to be a better listener, a better communicator.

Because like I say, Ochill, now tell this story all the time. My therapist told me, she said, Mr. Sharp, you're speaking Mandarin. She's speaking Spanish. And one of you guys got to learn the other's language or it's not going to work because you're communicating and you don't know what. You don't know what the other is saying. Right, right. Her form of communication is affirmation.

Tell her she looks good. Tell her she's fine. I say, but I tell her that, but she wants me, she wants me to be like a pep rally. Like she wasn't, right, right, right. I mean, from the time she gets up, like boom, shock, oh, you look good. Oh, yes, unbelievable. Wow, bam. You know what's funny?

Now did you say that? Women that say words of affirmation are their love language for that. But the fact that I think when women here you look good, you this, you that from the same person over and over and over and over and over. It doesn't hit the same as hear from someone. It doesn't hit the same. No matter what you say, it's crazy.

But back on the topic on the basis that we were talking about, I think listening and compromising and communicating are probably three of the most important things. Compromising, most definitely, especially compromising. But let me ask you a question. Yeah. Are you listening to respond or are you listening to understand? I'm listening to understand.

When it comes to a woman, are you listening to understand? Yeah. Because we think differently. Oh, yeah, absolutely. You know? Yeah. So I try to put myself in her shoes when she's talking to get a better understanding on where she's coming from.

A lot of times women base their facts on feelings. I feel this way, so it's got to be true. Facts are, I mean, feelings aren't facts. Right. Facts aren't feelings. Right. Yeah. And what I've had to learn and I've had to, do you want this to work or do you want to be right?

What is it that you want, Ocho? Do you want it to work or do you want to be right? Because for the longest time, I wanted to be right. I've always been this debater. I've always been this guy that, okay, well, let me take it. This is what it is. Okay, but in the process of me being right is not helping us. Yeah. Yeah. Now, because you got to look at it. It's a us, not an eye, not a me. It's a us. It's a we. And so now, but in that moment, I'm thinking about me. You're wrong. You're on your own. You on the island. You on, you wrong. And let me tell you, boom, boom, boom. I just laid it out so elaborately. I'm feeling good inside. I told her ass. Not look at your feeling. She didn't be. Right. Right. But in the process, what I've done is I chipped the way at the foundation of a us.

And she's like, now I see, it ain't no us. It's a you versus me. Me. Yeah. And so I've had, and slowly but surely I've tried to get out of that mindset of a, it's a we and not a me. Not the chip at the foundation, the fabric that could hold us together. So it's a trial and error. I'm not perfect.

I'm never going to be perfect. I've never professed to be perfect. I made some mistake. Go make some more. Yeah. See, that's the point. That's the thing about it. I don't want to make them on mistakes.

I've done the trial in there already. I've done the trial in there for God damn 20, 20, 25 years. So I've been through it enough. I've touched the stove enough to know the motherfucking stove is hot. The stove is hot. It's going to burn you when you do certain things. So I should be out of that stage by now. Yeah.

My grandma had a sand. My granddaddy had a saying he should tell my grandma all the time. God damn it, Bessie Flowers. Do you want to be motherfuckering happy or you want to be right? pick one because you can't get both of them. Right. Pick one because you can't get both of them. You want to be happy.

You want to be right. I tell real all the time. Every time, every blue moon, we might get into it. Listen, I'm not going to say it, act like we don't have no fucking problem.

Right. But we argue. We auger. I say, baby, listen, man, you want to be happy, you want to be right.

Let me know. What you want to be? Because you can't be both. And if you think you'd be both, you're living in a fairy tale. Baddett is Chad calling me Unk Winfrey. man y'all y'all be bad

y'all be killing me man but you're right but but but it's right yeah I mean and that's the thing you want to be right or you you want to be right or you want somebody be happy and some and sometimes

it's better you know what oh joe sometimes it's better to be wrong and keep the peace sometimes I lose sometimes I lose on purpose oh because you know I don't you know how you play it.

I know you don't have pets. But sometimes I'm being playing Tugger War with my dog and I'll let it win and he'll get it. He'll go pressing off. He's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You could take it from me. Yeah. Sometimes I let him win.

Oh, yeah, I got him on this one. No, you don't let you man. But I'm okay. You don't need to know that. You know what's funny, though? You know what's funny? That's a little bit antagonizing too because sometimes Rhea want to argue

and I, and she'll say something, she'll say something. And be ready for me to bounce back. And you let it have a rebuttal. I'd be like, you know what? Baby, you're right. Right. Yeah, real.

You can't get old. You can't get Ocho. Hey. Boy, that make it even matter. It'd make it even more matter. But you know, that's all you're going to say. But you ain't got nothing to say back.

But see, when you young, Ocho, as you start to get older, see, when I was young and I ain't take my 20 milligrams or don't fuck with me. Yeah. I woke up with him. I woke up with hell on my mind. Oh, you ready?

Yeah, I woke up with hell on my mind. Yeah, looking, looking for an argument. Listen, when you're young, you like to argue. When you're young, you love to argue. But you look at Twitter every day, any topic it is, anything going on with any celebs, or they break up or something happening or anything going in the world? Well, God damn, oh, everybody ready. They be going, fighting back and forth.

Y'all don't even know these people. Yeah, yeah. You don't even know these people. You don't even know these people. I don't know you. What I say? If I can't bring, if I can't bring my dog,

I'm not going to. It ain't buppy. It ain't Bobby, Ocho. Yeah. Hey, you saw, I retweeted earlier. You saw that big-ass great day in the kitchen. I see it. Boy, the lady in that cooking,

the dog, the dog looked bigger than the goddamn kitchen. like a goddamn horse. Yeah. They get big. They get seven, seven to half feet, stand on the high legs.

Great Dane, Irish Wolfhound, get like that. Irish will found. Yeah. Irish Wolfhound is the bigger. It's bigger than the Great Dane. As far as high wise.

Highwise. But as far as weight, you're talking about the English master that can get up at 300 pounds. But they ain't healthy, huh? No, no,

no, no, no. No, no. No. But like, like my dog, I mean, my dog weighs like 170, but he's athletic. He, I mean, he's athletic athletic.

Oh, he moved with it. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And he good. I mean, he heard the doorbell ring. He'll get on his place. He gets on his place. He ready. And he just sit there, he just sitting there watch.

Now, he look, now, he ain't going to stay on that spot long. When the cleaning people come, Blanca and Vicky, he loves Vicky. Yeah. He loves Vicky. That's the only time that I have to like really correct him because it's like that's his best friend. He'd be all in the room. She's all on the floor with him, rubbing him. Right, right, right, right.

Both feet up in the air. Yeah, man. He's just like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hold on daddy. I'll listen to you in a minute. Let her get five more minutes with me. Yeah. Let's get back on topic.

Richard Sherman fires back at criticism for supporting both 49th of the Seahawks. Sherman said, I will support the teams I play for. You need to remember, we brought the city that championship, not vice versa. So I will support both 49th and Seahawks, acting like you gave me something like I owe you something. You need to appreciate the team that brought you and stay in your lane. I get that old show because, you know, look, I played with the Broncos for 12 years, 10, went to Baltimore for two, won a championship, went back to Denver for two. So on my 14 years, I played for two teams, 12, one team, two with the other, one championship.

So if I cheer for the Ravens, man, what about your Lord into the Broncos? I cheer for the Broncos. Well, you did know you play for the Ravens. And now, you know, Travis, my nephew, Travis Kelsey, man, how do you do that? Right. Damn. I can't like nobody else but Bronco and Ravens players. Right, right, right, right.

Listen, my allegiance will always be, obviously, we know my allegiance to the Bengals. Yeah. I had a short stint with the Patriots. in 2011, whatever year that was. But, I mean, that's... You don't know the year that was. Yeah, I don't even know what year it was, man. You know, I don't care about the football once I stopped playing.

But my allegiance is going to the Bengals. And obviously, after the Bengals, it's the Dolphins. Obviously, I'm born from Miami, born and raised Liberty City, Day County, for all y'all in the chat. And it will always be that way. Oh, it always has been. Before I was drafted in the Bengals, I was a Dolphins fan. I was a little kid, a little shorty going to the game at the goddamn Orange Bowl, watching Mark Cooper and Mark, Mark, Mark, Mark, Mark, Mark, Mark,

Clayton. Shoot, got their damn, Marino. Yeah, the Marx brothers, man, man, back in the days.

And shit, when I got drafted, obviously, you know, that's, that's when my bangle, my bangled them comes from. Yeah.

And that's how it would be, no matter what anybody says. You know, I never had any, nobody's, every, uh, gave me any gripes about it, because obviously common sense,

they understood I was from Miami and I played with me. Yeah. But, but it's different because I, I spent 12 years, I spent 12 years with one and only two with the other. And, and I have,

like I said, I still talk to Ozzy. I still talk to a couple of people at the Ravens. Kevin Byrne, who's no longer, Chad still took Kevin Burns place. But I still talk to Kev. I talked to Chad. Chad wasn't even with the team when I was there. I talked to a few people.

But I just know, I mean, when you spend 12 years and you know, you know, Chip still there. And I don't know any of the athletic, the trainers now. But the, you know, the equipment guy, I still know this. them, the videographers, you know, I still know them, but all the coaches turned over, Ocho is under new ownership. And it's a little, it's a little different. Honestly, it is a little different now because a lot of the people that was there with

Mr. Boland and some of the guys that were, you know, when Mike staff got left and then Koo came in and there was some turning, you know, going back. But it's different now. It is. It is. I'm not going to say they treat me different when I go back. They still get, they still treat me great. The fans are still great.

to me, I haven't been back to a Ravens game, but for the most part, the Ravens fans, they haven't back to a Ravens game? I haven't because I've been working. Okay, okay, okay. I work and see, and people like, well, why you don't go to the games? I said because it's hard for me to watch all the other games when I'm at a game. Okay, I see what you mean. Because now I've got to, I've got to talk about the Cowboys. I've got to talk about the Eagles. I've got to talk about Kansas City. I've got to talk about this one. and it gets extremely hard when you're just watching that game.

Right. So a lot of times I find myself, I would be up in the suites, and I'm not enjoying the game at the field. I'm watching, they got the Cowboys on this one, and they got other team on that one. And I'm doing my job because I know come Monday, I'm going to have to talk about it.

And so that's why. You know, I got a question. With your extreme knowledge for the game, what do you think about doing play-by-play, like Tony Rombo? No? That never, because here's the thing. Mocho. You can't be as honest as you need to be. Why? Because if you are, they won't do a production meeting with you.

Seriously? No. I see you going with it. I see where you're going with it. Okay, okay. I got you. I got you. And so you got to play the game a little bit, huh? Yeah, you do. You got to play the game. And I don't, I don't want to study tape that much anymore like I once did. And kudos to all the guys. I think Greg Olson does a phenomenal job. I haven't heard one word. I haven't heard Tony Romo. I haven't heard any of the guys. Now, I couldn't tell you what they say or how they say it.

Because for me, Ocho, I need to be able to speak from a place. This is my genuine thought. I'm not corrupted by what I heard somebody else say. Somebody else might have said it. Maybe great minds think alike. But this is my interpretation of what I saw. This is my interpretation for what transpired. And it might be, you know,

might not agree with it, you might agree with it. But now, I really never wanted to be play by play, but I've always wanted to talk about more than football. Right. I want to talk about basketball. I want to talk about track and field. I want to be able to talk about a George Floyd. I want to be able to talk about a Colin Kaepernick and knee kneeling.

I want to be talking about some of these societal issues. And when you play by play, you're kind of boxed in. Right. And for me, with my knowledge, it doesn't need to be hardest in that capacity. Okay, I see what you mean. I like it. Aaron Rogers likely to be medically cleared to play this upcoming week. No.

Rogers may be medically cleared next week to return playing in games, according to multiple reports. The Jets travel to the Dolphins this week and then host commanders on Christmas C, which would be Rogers' targeted return date. The New York Jets are currently 5 and 8 sit third place in the AFC East. It has a less than 1% chance of making the postseason. what do you think about that what's the point what are we proven you were able to come back from injury and heal extremely extremely fast um the comeback being five and eight even though you sit in third

in the afc we say they sit in third right third in the afc each yeah i know i mean don't why why why even chance it though like why there's what do you have to prove we know what you can do heal up rest up get ready for next year let zach wilson condition continue to run the show. His whole thing is about I want to show medical professions that I know more. I know better than them. Why take a chance? We talk about Marvin Harrison, you got damn junior, stand another year. Why take the chance in risk injury? Why set yourself back further and re-injury your Achilles? There are three places on the body you don't play with. You don't play with your knee. you don't play with your groin,

you don't play with your Achilles, and let me, I might add the hamstring in there too. Well, those areas, if you're a quarterback, if you're a quarterback, your elbow and your shoulder

if you're a quarterback. Oh, yeah, that too. That too. But, man, listen, those are injuries you don't want to play with, man. Allow it to heal.

I don't care what technology said. I don't care what science said that they talk about. I don't care how good you feel walking and going up and down. When the bullets are flying in the middle of a game, it's a it's a different ball game it's a different beast don't come back that don't come

back there's a difference between there's a difference between game and practice because practices are what scripted yeah the game isn't scripted oh no so you can you can call plays you can script practice where they don't get pressure around and you don't have to do anything suddenly now all of a sudden you get into the game and no scripts now you got to move faster you got to You got to react. And, listen, is that area ready for that type of, that type of tension and, um, the suddenness in which you're going to have to react. Bingo, the suddenness.

I thought you took the, you're looking for the goddamn word. You brought it right up. Man, don't, don't do that. Don't do that to your body, man. Rest, wait for next year, training camp, have the whole nine yards. Boom, you'll be fine. You get out there. You're going to hurt yourself.

The rattlers are the national. National champions. Family being Howard 30 to 26 to claim the program's first celebration bowl and its first and black college football national championship. The Rattler scored three fourth quarter touchdowns to overtake the Bison and win 30 to 26. Yeah. Florida, A&M, the greatest HBU's greatest HBCU of all time. I want to send a congratulations to everybody, all family Rattlers, current students. football players, alumni, President Larry Robinson.

I salute you. A.D. Tiffany Sykes, I salute you. Head coach Willie Simmons. I love you. Even the marching 100. Brother Shelby Chapman, I appreciate you. That's Will Packard, Will Packer, Alamamaada. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. The greatest, not just any alma mater,

the greatest album model. The highest of the Seven Hills. Were you in the school at again? Savannah State. Y'all, and Savannah State don't want to see, don't want to see FAMU. Y'all want no smoke with us. On the field, on the basketball court, tennis court, the band,

I ain't even going to mention the band. Y'all don't want none of that. You saw, hey, you saw when I went back to Savannah State for first take, you see how we got that thing crud. Hey, boy, that was nice, boy. We had that thing cropped up in there. Hey, well, you came out, boy, that thing was live. I ain't allowed to you.

That's how we do. I'm going to lie to you. Hey, but there's only one. Oh, they do it. Listen, but there's only one, though. There's only one. Well, Savannah State, that's it. The greatest.

The greatest. The college by the seat, bro. The highest of the seven hills. Because we're going to strike. We're going to strike. And we're going to strike again. Oh, Cho, there's, I read a survey that said, the four most important pillars in a relationship. Religion.

Money. in-laws, parenting, and money. If you had to rank them, how would you rank them? Religion, in-laws, parenting, and money. I'm going money first. I agree. I'm going money first.

I don't care what nobody's saying. Don't get on here preaching that, that old righteous bullshit. Money come first. Money's first. I think in order for people to be compatible, I'm not sure two religions can be together. Maybe you can, depending on how much you love each other.

I think you're really you gotta go to church. You're up in the church, never in my life. Okay. Okay. Yeah. I mean, some people are very serious when it comes to their religious beliefs. And they want their partner to think and feel and have that same vision as they do when it come to their religious beliefs. True.

So I think I would put religion second. Third, I would be parenting. What was number four? What number four? In-laws. Yeah. Third, third would be parenting. in-laws, who cares about what the fuck they think?

Yeah, keep them up. Oh, my bad. Keep them mofos out your business. Yeah, okay, okay, okay. They always in somebody's business. No disrespect. No disrespect. No disrespect. Nah, I hate people that allow their in-laws of family to dictate whether they should be with somebody.

If that individual makes you happy, I don't care what a man family member think about me. Man, fuck y'all. Y'all. They got to deal with them. That's me. I got to deal with that. But parenting parenting is very important. Very, very important. Hell shit.

As a parent myself, I'm still a goddamn, a work in progress. Yeah. As a father. For me, Ocho, I would probably say money, parenting. It all depends on the type of religion because some religions are more strenuous than others. And you see a lot of people not want to mix those. So I guess it all depends on how. devout you are in your fate.

Right. Because I think the more devout you are in your fate, the less malatable or bending or flexible you're going to be when it comes to religion. Ooh. So for me, I mean, long you ain't, you know, you ain't out there cutting up no goats and no being no satanic stuff. Right, right, right. I think we're pretty cool.

If you want to go to church, have had it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know. Yeah, I like church, too. I like church. Obviously, I went to New Birth. I went to New Birth, Baptist Church, Victor Bishop, Victor T. Curry. New Births in Atlanta?

No, not from Miami, man. I'm talking about the original. I thought you about New Birth. Listen, I'll talk about the only new birth. The new birth in Miami, Florida. Victor, Pastor Victor T. Curry. The real New Birth, no disrespect. No disrespect.

No disrespect to the church. No disrespect. But, you know, I hit Miami, man. And I don't, I don't go to church as often as I used to. I don't go as often as I used to. I think I've gone enough, obviously growing up. You know, grandma had me in church. Grandma went to church in Overtown.

Reverend Clark was her pastor. That was our first pastor. Reverend J.E. Clark. For real? Mount Zionary Baptist Church. Listen, Mont Olive and Baptist Church, Reverend Clark, and over there in Overtown. And I kind of not graduated, but I kind of veered

off over to New Birth Baptist Church that was at Miami Northwestern at the time. They were having service at Miami North Western. I would walk all the way from my house on 44th Street all the way down Seventh Avenue just to go to go to church there and always been there for years. But I don't go as often as I need to. And the fact that you just brought it up about religion again. But see, see, what has happened is that, see, the church is taking on a different meaning. The church is here.

Right. See, what people have gotten confused is that the building. Right, right, right. That's not what the church is. Right. There are people that go to church and will say or do anything. There are people that go to church. See, people have hidden behind religion for thousands and thousands of years, and they'll use that book.

Uh-huh. There are places in the Bible that you can find that will support anything that you do. Mm. Come on, that. It ain't even Sunday, but go ahead and preach. And people will use that. Now, in the Bible, in Leviticus, it says you're not supposed to sleep with a woman on a cycle. How many women are giving up on their cycle and how many men will take it?

Y'all better. I ain't going there. I ain't going to go, Ocho, I ain't going to do that. Come on, I don't want people to know what I know. But don't you, don't you stop now? Don't you stop now? We've been to get the faint question. We've got to get the same question.

Come on. Come on, Britsch. Come on. Come on, Hey. Ocho. Ocho, Ocho,

my brother would tell you this. When I was about, probably about 11 or 12. Yes, sir. The pastor told my grandmother, he told her that I was going to be a minister. Yes, sir. I don't know what happened to me, Ocho.

Well, I still, look, I don't want people to think that, but I do. I have a Bible. read the daily bread. I pray often. I have a understanding. I don't hit people over the head with what I know when it comes to biblical. You live your life. I can't get you in the heaven. The only person I can get in the heaven is Shannon. I can't save but one soul. That's mine. So how can I save you and lose my own? So let me save mine. I can.

assist or tell you what I think you should do, but at the end of the day, that's your call. But anyway, I ain't going to know, Ocho, no, I ain't going to do it. Uncuncho, Unculture, J. Uncuncuncho, what are some unspoken rules amongst players that don't get talked about? Unspoken rules. I mean, shit, there ain't an unspoken rule. You don't mess with nobody's money. You don't be talking about nobody's wife.

You don't mess up by the kids. Is it? I mean, I don't know if it's spoken or unsposed. But see, Ocho, when we were in the, when we were in the locker rooms, we didn't talk about religion. No. We didn't talk about that shit in the locker room. We didn't talk about politics.

Absolutely not. We didn't talk about orientation or something. We didn't say, we didn't talk about that stuff. Hell, no. All I want to know, can you, can you catch the ball? Can you fact the quarterback? Can you run the ball? That's all I care about.

I don't care. What you do? You can sleep with a hundred million for all I can. I'm trying to win. Hey, hell, a matter of fact, can your boyfriend? Can he catch? Can he run? Yeah.

Right, right. out here. Right. I don't have to do with me. Right. Yeah. Unwritten, but there are no unwritten rules.

There are no unwritten rules. You just, but obviously the three, the three that nobody needs to say is obviously you don't talk about nobody wife. You don't try to hollet nobody wife. No, no,

and you don't talk about nobody goddamn kids. No, no. And shit. And that's pretty much it. Yeah, just the common, common,

you know, but they were, well, you know, I, hold on. I was, I think it was old Gillson podcast. They were talking about, um, about how the situation like, okay, your wife is off limit

and then you get the, you know, you get, you know, you get your girl. I saw that. No, you don't. No, you put, you get one. One. Your wife is on the shelf. Everybody else. Everybody else is a bad game.

Everybody is touchable. Everybody can be checked now. Hey, that was a good episode. You lied to me. Hey, you remember somebody to say it. If you got a wife and you got a bad side chick. And you think you're going to be able to save both of them? No, you not.

You're not going to save that girl. Your wife, I ain't trying to, I ain't even looking at her. Right. But, oh, you best believe, I'm throwing a, I'm throwing a net out there trying to reel her in. Hey, it was so funny the conversation he was having, right? They, they, uh, somebody said, oh, I see so-and-so in the stands tonight. Okay, which one of y'all got so-and-so here at this game? Hey, man, that was funny.

Listen, but in basketball players, they got me. They moved different, boy. They do, but they move different. They do. Well, they moved different. boy. Like, hey. If you tell me, you talk to him, if you tell me, you used to, if they told me, they

talked to, oh, you know, I used to talk to somebody. I took my tail and run. I ain't got that kind of way. I can't fight him. I can't fight. I can't fight what he can do for you. Now, I could, you know, back of the day, and you know, your boy used to be ready to toss her and the drop.

But I don't got old now, Ocho. That ain't, that ain't in me no more. Listen. But, oh, they's like, oh, yeah, you get, you get you, you get your wife. No. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no you don't. Oh, no, hell no. You get to put one on the shelf.

Yeah. And she can't be touched. Now, if it could be your wife, it can be your girl. Yeah. But you don't get to. Oh, hell. Oh, no. No, sir.

I don't know what they do that in. Listen, for them boys, vicious, boy. They can be vicious all they want to, but I know if I'm out. Them boy, boy, play a different ball game. They do. They do. They do. That's why I can't be.

Put them zero. They got that kind of money. If you want to keep up with them, you don't need tracks shoes, you need a checkbook. And I ain't got that kind of checkbook. Oh, yeah. So, no, no. But I will talk to Gil about that when he comes back on the weird.

I'm like, I heard y'all talking. Y'all, you can't say, no, you get to save one. Now, you got a, oh, Joe, you got a choice. Yeah. Two people drowning. You could only save one. You can't save both of them. Nah, you can't.

You can't swim back to shore with two drowning people. Now, which one you want to put up there to make sure? to make sure she's safe. Right. Because the other one, we coming. Yeah. We coming.

I'm a riptide. Hey, I don't know you, but that's a real current. You know, that real current? Yeah, but that's a powerful.

Yeah. Come in the strongest women. Oh, yeah. You see what you can. You got, hey, you got to let this go with it. Don't swim against it

because all we're going to do is tie you out and drown you. Go with it. It's all out a little bit and then come back in. You know what the funny thing is, you know, it makes it makes it even worse. Is there are so many,

so many fine. I'm talking about the finest of the finest women, right? How many athletes is it that really got it? Think about it. It's only a select few. It's only a small, it's only a handful of them. But there's so many women and all the women want the select few athletes. So guess what they get to do.

And the select few athletes want the women. And they want the women. They pick who, man, listen. Color. It don't matter. It's a certain type of a woman that an athlete feeling have to have. Yeah. And it's normally white skin, they got that hair, whether it's the

haliberry crop, whether it's long and wavy, they buy, they, they mix, you know, I don't know what it is. My grandma should say, my grandma went out a little boy. She said, boy, you color struck. Yeah. What she meant by that, but the red ball, the hot. Yeah. See, do you know what, that's, I had, I had a, I had a different different mentality when it came to that, when it came to the woman. My whole thing was your DNA. Are you athletic? Yeah, Ocho, I need to be in the

listen. I need to see, let me, what you do in high school? Did you cheer? Did you play volleyball? Did you play basketball? Did you play softball? Are you athletic? First dates, I'm going on dates where I need to be able to see if you can move. Do you got two left feet? Can your ass make a motherfucker layup? Because I'm going to need your DNA at one point. At one, at some point I'm going to do your DNA. Because if you ask, what's the most important foundation when it comes to playing sports? Your footwork. Yeah. And everything you do, your footwork.

So if I'm on a date with you where you just oh so happened to get pregnant, now I got to deal with you and my child. So you mean also having to get pregnant? What the hell you made no also happen? Yeah, I'm just saying. That's why I only dated people that were athletic. I don't care. I don't care.

I don't get. I don't get. I don't get. I don't look good enough for two. I don't care how you look. All you're athletic. Period. That's it.

That's a good. Hey, you got, you got, you got these dudes going to get these pretty women. They so fine. And then you have a kid and you wonder why your kid getting picked last in PE because you got there pick somebody. She can't even make a motherfucking layup. But God, dang. She got no athleticism.

She got two left feet. The kid getting picked last to P.E. But she's getting for getting picked first and for the date. It ought to be. Let me out. I'll take her. That's all. You can have that.

It's too late now. My kid. It's too late. Man, I saw that. I saw that life skin and that long waving hair. Yeah. You like, you like that, huh? You like that?

See, let, look, this, man, I'm just, I wouldn't, I ain't trying to, I want, I want, I want to try. I want, I want, I want to try. I want, I want to try. You know how the women be in church? When the Holy Ghosts go. Yeah. Put the head up. Yeah.

That was your thing now, huh? Yeah. Back of the day, back of the day. Oh, Joe. I was young. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. You know, you boy.

you boy was man, Ocho. Yeah, my 20th, early, 20th, mid-20th. Wow, what you were doing? I could pee on a swinging boot from 25 feet away. I just ain't what I used to be Ocho. I ain't what I used to be Ocho. Hey, hold on, hold on, no, no, you ain't for to get away with that one.

Hold on you say you could pee in a swinging boot from 25 feet away. Yeah, you swing the boot up there. You said a, you said a swinging boot. So the boat moving and you still. Move? 25 feet. Yeah. I walk good, Ocho.

I don't know what happened to you, boy, Ocho. You know, now you got to bring the boot a little closer. Now you got to bring it a little closer, Ocho. But I know it can't move. You're still swinging or still? Yeah, yeah, I can still reach it. But I didn't need to boot a little closer. Okay.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's nothing wrong with the plumbing now. Ain't nothing wrong with the plumbing. You know, the pipe still worked. You know what I said? A couple years ago, I had to get some drain-o to get the pipes unclogged.

Right, right, right, right. You good? Yeah. I like that. I like that. I like that. Boy, that's a good one, that boy. What I rolled reliable faith.

I old you and Shannon, can you remember a time when coach or coached staff gave you bad instruction and you did what believed it was right? How did you move forward after that? Were you able to maintain a worker relationship and respect? Yeah. Yeah. Yes. But I remember a player like my rookie season. I didn't know the route. And the player gave me the wrong route. I ran the route. It was wrong. Coach Reeves trues my ass out. But yes, I've had a coach. But I should have known. It's on me. See, I can't, what I'm supposed to go. So now I'm supposed to go tell the O.C. I'm supposed to hear the head coach. This is what he told me. I bite the bullet. I don't tell her nobody. I always. I don't tell him. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I

that one. That's me. I should have known. I should have known. And if he told me something that I didn't, that I, that I knew, I'm going to do it my way. I'm always going to take the responsibility. I remember one time we were in Minnesota and I was supposed

to be on the line of scrimmage and the Duane Carswell was supposed to be off the line of scrimmage. But I switched with it. He said, nah, he said, shop. He said, shop. Nah, man, I said, don't worry about it. I say, I'll bite the bullet. So they got to they got to, so we got to the sideline. Coole him to ask, what the, what the, what's going on out there?

Who the fuck? I said, I did it. I did it. Right. I switched. Now, I mean, what? Y'all going to bitch me? I'm going to bite the bullet.

I'm wrong. I'm wrong. I'm mad enough to say that. But yes, I've been told in situations I've told the wrong thing, but that's on me because I should have known my playbook better. Right. Right. But you think like, oh, man.

But it's all good. It's all good. I kept a great relationship because at the end of the day, we all human. We all human. Yeah, but when I think about it, I've never had any situations like that where coaches are telling me to do one thing. And I did another. I think one of the things that happened with me is the way it's written on paper or the way we went over it in meetings. Yeah.

And it's exited nose. And when my coaches fail to realize, I say more so my offensive coordinator, times Bob Brickowski, I never forget. Bob, we would disagree on things on ways certain things should be run because obviously on paper there's nobody moving. There's nobody moving and it's an X and it's

oh and you want me to get from point A to point B in a certain amount of time within the time frame of the offense so I don't mess up the timing of the offense. But Bob, I can't run it that way. I have to run it this way because the guy in front of me, he's not going to be sitting still like it is on that goddamn paper. Right.

He's going to be moving hands on me. He's going to be trying to put hands on me. So listen, I'm not going to argue the fact with you, but when I get in the game, game time situation, just know I'm going to be open. I'm going to improvise just a little bit, but I'm going to stay within the timing of the offense and make sure I'm where I'm supposed to be

when it's time for that ball to be thrown. That's one of the few things I can remember and recall because he would always harp on doing it the way it's written and the way he's taught it. But at certain time, depending on the person across the me, me understand who I'm playing against, there's some things I need to do and improvise a little bit, but stay within the time and that the offense.

Well, I've been very, very fortunate because my position coach, Cube, BP, whoever, and Mike, Mike's like, look, we draw them like this, but I just get open. However you get open, as long as when seven back foot hit, I like that. And you're coming open and he's ready to throw. Because all that, look, all that stuff and you draw. up on tape and on the backboard and you got scribbling here to do that.

Okay, that sounds good. Yeah. But come Sunday, them mofo's coming. Yeah. Get open. And he tried to, he grabbing and he took it. No, I'm going to be open. Right.

And John and I've already talked about it. Hey, 12 to 14. He said running 12 or 14 in practice. I know you're going to cut it down to 10 to 12 in the game because everything's happening quicker. Just, hey, let's just time it up. Let's see how I go. and we might, hey, by the end of the week, he said running 10 to 12.

And come game time, it's 8 to 10. Yeah. Because at the end of the day, what the coaches say don't matter. They might tell me something, we'll run it like this. John say run it like that. Who got the ball? I'll listen to the mofo that got the ball. What y'all talking about with a headset?

That don't do nothing for me. At all. I ignore. I block out all things that doesn't have seven. If you ain't got no jersey on. Right. I ain't listening to you come game day. I'm not. I'm not. That's just the way it is. Key asked, with the NFL changing their policy on jersey numbers, would y'all wear a single-digit number or stick to 84 and 85? I'm wearing number two. For real? Yeah. I'm wearing number two in college.

Okay, okay, okay. College thing. I'm number two. I'm sticking 85. But in college, I had 80. I won an 80 when I got when I got to the Bengals, but Peter Warwick, the great Peter Warwick, the greatest collegiate receiver of all time had 80. So I would stick with 85. That 85 is symbolic, man. You know, the single-digit numbers are cool. It's something about a single-digit number. Now, you got to be that boy dog to wear that single-digit number. You got to be that boy.

It held more weight to me in college, in high school, literally, yes. I was single-dit-in-high school. I was number three in high school. Yeah. But in the NFL, it just doesn't hit the same to me. It don't hit the same. The single-digit numbers, though, it don't- Because you're not used to seeing it.

You're not used to see it. You don't used to see a skill players, linebackers, DBAs, and anything like that with a single-digit number. But I think over time, guess what, Hachell, 10 years, 15 years from now, when you see more of it, you're going like, damn, how long they have single-digit number? Because I remember when Kenny Burrow from the, were double zero. Right. Back in the 80s. For real? Yeah.

How could nobody, they need to bring that zero back, actually a zero, maybe not double zero. I think you could have zero. See, what would happen if they, whatever you got drafted as, like Amar Rashad, he wore 28 as a receiver, but he was drafted as a running back. Brad Van Pelt, he was a linebacker, he wore number 10, but he came in the league as a quarterback.

So he got to keep the number. Right. So, so there were some oddities, but, I mean, you know, back then you see running backs with 70, 7, you know, the old, you go back, the real old footage, Jojo. They got 77. They got 50. Right.

Running back with 77. 77? Yeah. Oh, yeah. I think Marilyn, Marion Motley was 77. That got to be way... That got to be way back in the day. Like in the 50s and 60s. I think Molly was in the 60s. Yeah. Marion Motley was in the 60s, right?

Hmm. A 50s. That's crazy. 77 at running back? Huh? He was 77 in high school, too, so he just kept that number. Is that holiday time of year again?

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Hell, look at the team winning. You make it seem like they had an unblemish record when they had Justin Herbert. Yeah, shit, they was bad. They was bad with Justin Herbert. I mean, to the fact, even when Justin Herbert was there, they were still talking about firing goddamn Mr. Staley. Brandon Staley.

Brandon, yeah, but still. talk about fire and mr steady but shit but jester herbert is he's a good quarterback he yeah very good that's you know what i'm so glad to do that said where would you rank jesson herbert do you put him in your top tier based on big quarterback big arm but what were you i think my i think like my homes borough um lamar josh allen josh allen with the play he played this year that yeah uh Who else? Jay Hurts. I bet you.

I'm drawing the blank. Yeah. Herbert, Purdy. I like, oh, you know what? C.J.

Stroud. Oh, yeah. The funny thing is C. Jay Stroud is a rookie, and he's in company already like that. I like Trevor Lawrence. Oh, yeah.

I forgot about T. T.L. Yeah. Yeah, that's crazy. That's crazy. Trevor Lawrence has changed that guy in a franchise. Marion Motley wore 36. I mean, excuse me, he wore 76, not 77, 76.

Millennium Art asked, Uncanote you a big fan of both of you guys for years, love the show. Have a question. What's the biggest thing you and your kid's mother have disagreed on when it comes to parody? Woo! But that's a good one.

Listen. That's a good. Oh, money? Yeah. How much? Okay. Okay. I was I was a little fortunate. I was a little fortunate. I was a little fortunate. Where, um, where those that, those that I have kids from, I have kids from those that come from where I'm from. Does that make sense? You understand where I'm coming from? I didn't leave, I didn't leave my front portion, get money and go and try to impregnate those that wouldn't deal with me if I didn't have money. Right. You know what I'm going? So when it came to the situation of being able to take care of my kids and what they needed, it was it was just for just that, not a means of image and living a certain lifestyle.

Right. You get what I going. So I was fortunate in that situation. Right. And one of the reasons why when I do talk, you always hear me mention them and the job that they've done because life could be hell. Especially with the way I did things where I didn't do it the traditional way. Oh, they could have took me to the goddamn cleaners if they wanted. But I had people with a right state of mind and had obviously that the goal at the end of the day is for the child.

But yeah, I think schooling. I mean, I mean, what kid need be in a $10, $15,000 year kindergarten? What? Ain't no such thing. Yeah. The hell you said, ain't no such thing. So we argued about. 10,000.

Yeah. So we argued about stuff like that. that because I thought I didn't think a kid that was in that kind of was getting that much better of an education hell they ain't doing up a thing of painting and going to recess and drinking drinking milk and eating cookies anyway. Wait, you speaking from experience? Yeah. 15,000 for kindergarten.

The judge. It is what, look, the thing it is, Ocho, like I said, I think the kids got a better appreciation for what I did now. I know. See, the thing is also, like when kids, they just look, they want what they want. They don't really know, especially if the parents aren't together and maybe if they even if they are together, what one parent or the other parent is doing to make sure they maintain that standard of living. I think my kids now, they see how expensive stuff feels, even though it's more expensive now. When you do that three times, they're like, okay, they have a greater appreciation of it. Right. And so, but that, but that was it. And then I had, you know, we, we sit down and we talked about it, you know, and it's like, okay. And some of them's like, well, I think for me, I think the best thing for them is to take them out of private school. Because society ain't private. Yeah. It ain't no situation just because you got a this, this and this. You're over there. They're going to be more in a situation. So I need to get them acclimated to the real deal. So.

Yeah. When I went. When I think about that, that is a great question. That's a great question because I have a lot of, I have a lot of athletes coming to me, even this day, and they've been doing it throughout the years. And they always ask, man, listen, Ocho, how do you do it? How are you able to handle the issues with those you have kids from? I only have one.

I'm having problems. I mean, she's making my life a living hell. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Man, whatever it may be. And I'm always giving advice. I said, listen, those individuals you have kids from, that person you have a kid from, can make your life a living hell.

Obviously. For sure. For one, you got to understand who you had a child from. Understand the makeup and the DNA of the person you were dealing with and what they were doing before you came along. You already know it one about you. It's what you can do. So now you got to deal with it.

Now you got to suffer the consequences. Do everything you can to make that individual happy. You don't have a choice at this point. You don't have a choice. Now you stuck. Yeah, Ocho, but you know, when you young, Ocho, I don't see it that way. I'm trying to be right. Yeah.

I ain't trying to keep no peace. Right. Shit. I would, I'm thinking, I'm thinking long term, man. I'm thinking, I'm thinking long term.

Mm-mm. I'm thinking long term. I'm going to be right. I worry about, I worry about tomorrow, tomorrow, but today I'm right. Yeah.

I got you. Today I'm right. She, but as you, as you start to get older, you're like, okay, whatever.

Yeah. Yeah. But you, you don't want, you don't want to get taken advantage of either, man. That, that's, that's my thing.

You don't want to take advantage of, man. I got to, tell me what the child need. Say it again. In reason, tell me what the child needs. At any point, at any time, you know, and those, they know. They know.

I just had a, I had a conversation with, what of mine, moms, coming to an agreement. Like, this is what I have to do for so-and-so. Oh, no, baby. You ain't got to worry about that. You don't have to do nothing.

Anything you should need. Man, just hit my line. You know, we good. You don't have nothing. You don't have nothing to worry about ever. So that even shouldn't be a topic of conversation, you know? So as something is great as I think I have been as a father. I have so much more work to do.

Oh, yeah, for sure. I have so much more work to do, you know. And as soon as you think, soon as you think you've made it or you've reached a certain point where, damn I'm doing a good goddamn job you know what man life comes at you fast I don't I don't know what you think you are oh Joe I don't live in the past I already told my kids I can't get back what I lost I see time is the one thing that we can't recapture all I can do is try to be the best I can moving forward and every day you know we have a conversation if you need something I'm gonna give you I'm gonna I'm gonna be honest with you now I'll be honest with all my kids

I'm honest. My oldest is coming out here for Christmas. My youngest just left. She was out here like 13, 14 days for Thanksgiving. My son is married now. He's not as mobile as he once was. He's married. Got my grandson.

But I'm, you know, hey, we'll work in progress. We'll work in progress. We call, we talk. But there are some things that I know I need to get better at. But they understand, you know, every time like, damn, daddy, you work a lot. They, dad, I thought you would slow down. I was like, and do what?

I said, let's just say for the sake of argument. Because I'm good enough. I can retire now and live comfortably, never have to work. Never have to say another word, not do anything. Right. I said, but what am I going to do? I ain't got no hobbies. I don't travel.

I don't fish. I don't play golf. I don't build Legos. I mean, so what, what, what would I do? if I did nothing. And when I wouldn't do that before noon. So what would I do? I don't look at what I do now is work.

Right. Oh, this is fun. This ain't no work. Yeah. Hey, this ain't, this ain't work. This is fun. I enjoy this.

I enjoy going on inside the NFL. Anytime I could still be integrated and submerged in the game of football and still have some piece of it attached to me, that is not work. That is considered fun. But see, that's the thing because they ask, they're like, Daddy, they've always seen everything that I did. I thoroughly enjoyed it. I thoroughly immersed myself in it. And it's like, you think we ever go have a job?

I said, I don't know. I say, but I want you to, you should probably find something because there's nothing worse than waking up every day and hating to go somewhere or to be somewhere or to do something. Right. or I guess I guess the same thing if you, you with a partner, you wake up every day like, damn, you still here. I'm still here. What the fuck?

You know, I was hoping you be like the Indianapolis coast in 84. Just move your stuff out in the middle of the night. Damn, you're still here. That's bad. But, no, but in all honest, you know, the thing is that the work ethic, that it's hard.

And people ask, the conversation that you have with your kids, given how you grew up, Ocho. My kids couldn't survive one hour. One hour in my life. The first 20 years, not one. Right.

Not one. Because they've never had a job in which they haven't worked in AC. And I didn't have a job that I worked in AC until I got to CBS. So I was in my 30s. Every job I had, I was in the damn sun. Or I was in the elements. So, or I was in a chicken house Or I was in a field

And so And I remember I didn't like those jobs But I just remember getting up like damn Going to work like man Hey, there's $5 Where I was going to get money for You didn't go to work you didn't get paid

Man, $5 dollars go a long way Back then, yeah Ocho But you got to understand Ocho I was five or six years old In the field working 10, 12 hours Oh And shit.

This is what I knew from that point on. I've never, ever slacked on a job. My cousin, my cousin, Lannie, they called him Sunday. The boss is Joe Tatum. And Tiny, they were brothers. So we worked for them. They called me peewee because I was so small. I was small as a kid.

Right. They called me peewee. They called him Sundown because he's like, Mr. Joe, it's time to knock off. The sun going down. So they nickname him Sundown. Right. So, man, we were working one day. And he's like, man, he's like, because we need to, man, they need to give us a raise.

I said, well, how much? He said, man, ask Mr. Joe for a dollar. Knowing me, they, I'm the youngest. So he pushed me up. They put you up to it. He put me a day he because my older cousin, they were already making. I think they was making like $14 a day. We's making five walking behind the back of him.

And so I said, Mr. Joe, man, we've been working hard. hard. We, my man, I said, me and Lanny, man, we'd be working hard. And, man, we need a raise. Right. He said, well, Pee, how much you think you made? How much you think, uh, you should get a raise to? I was like, I don't know.

Give us a dollar. We need to make $6 a day. He's like, okay, Pee, we, six dollars that is. So we get the raise, Mr. Joe, tell us like on a Monday or Tuesday, do we go get to raise. Man, me and my cousin, we get out there, we start bulljabing the next day. My sister's day say nothing. because it's me, my brother,

my two, Arnell, Eugene, rest of soul, Lanny, I think Dr. Pearl was there, me, my brother. So it was, it was the crew of us.

So we got there, bull, jogging around. We played a horse around. We got us a dollar raid. Hey, ain't serious no more. We get home that night, live and say,

granted, them boys got a raise, and all they did, just all they did today was playing the fields. My granite said, Mm-hmm. That's all she said,

Ocho, that's all she said. She didn't say, I'm going to tell y'all ass up. She didn't say none of that. All she said, mm-hmm. Next morning, Mr. Joe pull up,

blow the horn. Granny come out there. Joe, hey, Mary, how you doing? She said, I'm good. Libby told me,

y'all, you gave them boys a raise. He said, yeah, Mary, they've been working hard. I gave him a dollar. She said, take it back.

What? Take it back. And he took it back. From that point on, I ain't never went on nobody job and bulljad. I don't care if he paid me $5. I don't care if they paid me $15. I don't care if they paid me $70,000. I give everybody an honest day's work.

And that's what my grandma said, boy, when somebody gave you an honest day's salary, you give them an honest day's damn work. And from that point on, I probably was no more than about six or seven. Yeah. Probably, hold on. I might have been, I might have been, I might have been, I might have been nine. Might have been nine.

I might have been eight going to nine because that was like 77. It's like in 77. So I'm probably nine years old. But you better than me because that dollar would have been spun. No, but here's the thing, Ocho, we got to see back then, we got paid at the end of the week. Right. So we got paid. And we worked the half a day on noon.

So, but we had the cornerstone, Sam's corner, the cornerstone. And so we could get stuff on credit. So we go in there So honey buns Was a quarter Yeah 12 ounce can soda Was a quarter

Chips The bag you got now It costs a dollar Whatever it costs Was a quarter Quarter back then Yep So we could go get

Whatever we want During the week And then we'll settle up With Miss Christine At the end of the week So we go in there And my bill Oh Joe

Let's see Five I got Hold up Five six So five day that's 30 half a day. That was 250. So I made like 30 to 32 50.

Yeah. Ocho, my bill at the corner stove be by $7.50, $10. Number junk, another nickname. Right. Another nickname. But from that point on, when my grandma told that man, even though I was nine years old and we work in 10, 12 hours a day and we bulljab one day on the job. And she told that man to take that dollar back.

Never again. Yeah. Never again. I have never, I have never ever gone on anybody's job. And played around, huh? No, sir. No, sir.

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young people work a lot of job because working a lot of jobs as a kid or let you know what you don't want to do when you get to be an adult because if because think about how flexible and how easy it is for you to move about when you're a child now you think out you think I want to work 12 hours in a field and then go work another four hours and catch chickens you think I wanted to clip pick up pecans clip onions bail hey you think I want to do that for the rest of my life you know the funny thing about it is though, but times are different now. Times are different now. People want a lot of money for a little bit of work. Sometimes people, and sometimes people don't even want to put no work in. No. They find loopholes around it. You know, I'm going to go ahead and clock in.

I'm going to sit over here and act like I'm working or doing something. People don't want to work. I don't want to put the work in for the money that they won't. You know, it's different now. There's nobody out there. There are very few people that really want, you know what? The way you put on that goddamn hard hat, you go to work and you ain't fin to play no games about what you do?

Everybody ain't like that, huh? No. Everybody like that. It's different now. Everybody won't X, Y, Z, but nobody wants RST. Ain't nobody want to do that. No. Everybody, man, I want to make all that money.

Man, man, you're working too hard. I don't want to do all that. What day is? You want somebody to take care of your egg, big rust ass? Yeah. You got to get it. The funny thing about it is, another thing, especially when it comes

the women, fellas that are grinding, that are working, you know, women never are around for the grand. They never around for the grand. But when the product is finished, everybody is your front door. They ain't never there for the grind.

You know, when it's hot, you know, you're shooting in the gym or you're out there on the field, working your routes and doing all that. But, boy, let draft they hit. Let that name go across the bottom of the ticker, everybody loves the finished product. Nobody wants to help you

help you build or help you get there. Man, I, but my grandma always, my grandma, well, something about my grandma needs motherfucking sands. My grandma always had, my grandma always had a goddamn saying, boy, don't you ever try to build an empire with a woman

seeking attention from the village. Okay. Boy, shit. You can't. You can't. Because I think the I heard, Ocho, but let me tell you, let me see. And I, I've dated, I've dated some, I've dated a few people. Don't need call no name.

But you have to understand, no, no, no. We need names for reference and context on the, on the, on what you're talking about. Ocho. Yeah. The difference is between most athletes, myself and I'll just speak, I'll let you speak to you. I'll speak to me. Yeah. People have been knowing who I was since I was 16.

Mm-hmm. because I was that guy. Yeah, you that boy. When I went to Savannah State. Yes, you was. I was that guy. Yeah. After my third, after my third,

started my third year from their own, I was that guy. So I've always gotten attention. Right. You see, if you've never gotten attention, you want it later in life. I'm cool. See, for me,

they say fame and fortune. Give me the fortune. F to fame. I don't, I don't need the red carpets. I don't need none of that. I'm good. but she couldn't understand.

Shannon, why you don't, I say, because baby, I've been this. I just didn't become this. I've been this. And I'm okay. And I'm okay now. And people are like, that must make you feel good when people want your autograph. I was like, I mean, when you young,

when you first started, because I remember my brother, My brother used to get so annoyed. He's like, man, he said, you're going to see. You're going to see. Because, Ocho, without broke. Signed and everything. It's okay. He's okay.

And the thing is, the problem that I got now, Ocho, people are wait until they get finished with their meal and then come ask you to take a picture of your time. I'm like, Osa, I noticed you, you waited until you was finished with your meal. You didn't want to interrupt your meal, but you ain't got no problem. him interrupt your mind. Right. But you hit him with that for real? Yes. Ocho, I'm watching

because Ocho, I get, you know, I'm watching. I pan. Yeah. I try not to make a whole lot of eye contact with people when I'm walking. I'm, I'm from point A to point B. Yeah. I hear, but I don't see. Yeah. And so I got my headphones on and I'm, you know, especially when I'm traveling, if I'm going to New York, normally

Azure or joins with me, we go in somewhere, they're normally with me. And they know, hey, You better have on some track shoes. Hey, it's damn, hey, my luggage is in the air. That's how fast I walk. It ain't rolling. It's in the air because I'm moving.

Right. So. That's funny. But that's the thing, the Ocho. I'm like, it's, I mean, it's nice. I'm not going to tell anybody that it's not nice. But I don't, I don't, I don't crave it. Yeah.

I don't, I don't crave it. Yeah. I'm, I'm at once upon a time, I was like, man, I want people to know me like my brother. I want people to know me like they know John L. I know. Be careful what you ask for. Mm-hmm. God just might give it to you.

Yeah. Let me see, it just came but a territory for me. It came but the territory. I had played and I built myself up to a certain status and certain figure where I became a household name, very, very early and it's still that way. But my approach is always different. You come bother me. You come bother me while I'm eating.

You come and bother me while I'm eating at a restaurant. I'm going to make you ass pull up a chair and we're going to finish the meal together. Like I'm like that. Like I'm different. I mean, I always treat people when I see them. I'm not saying, I mean, I'm just a little different. I'm a social butterfly. I talk a lot.

If you walk up to me, I hold a conversation with you at 20 goddamn 30 minutes. I ain't got nowhere to go. And I've done it. I've done this to people before that that bother me out at restaurants or places that might be at the time. And I will force you. I will force you to sit down with me and finish a meal. And have a conversation. Yeah.

If you interrupt? Oh, yeah. You interrupt? Nah, man. My oldest daughter, when I was, when I was, when I would get the kids for the summer, because I would get them for, I would get them for the summer. Right. And we go out to eat.

If somebody come up to talk about autograph, she wasn't having it. She said, nah, this is my time with my daddy. Yeah, but my kids, my kids don't be tripping. No, but she did, she did, because she, I didn't get a whole lot of time with them. I didn't get a whole lot of opportunity to sit down and eat. Right. And, you know, and how was, how was camp today? You know, what we're going to do, you know, we go, hey, we go to six flags, blah, blah, blah,

and things like that. And so she's like, just that little bit of time to sign an autograph for the carrying a conversation, that was going to take away from her. she's always she's always been the vocal one right other ones now my daughter when i went to see her graduate when she graduated and you know people like because i was like i told a mom i said look i'm gonna come in there hey you go in and sit down let me know where you're sitting i'm gonna come in there once to kind of the ceremony start ease in there and so once the ceremony's like people started right like that's just blah blah blah and so by that

time she had started to come. She's like, nah, this is my day. Yeah. Ain't no picture. I'm the only one taking pictures with dad. Right, right, right, right, right. So I was like, hey, she's spoken. Hey, listen, my kids be funny, man. You know, when we, when we travel,

or well, we're in a pack. This ain't no one, two, or three. Mind you guys, it's a bunch of us now. When somebody come back to ask me for a picture, shit, everybody's jumping in the picture. Yeah, shit. Man, hey, listen, I know straight. They got a family photo.

Yeah, That family photo. You get every last one of us. It'd be so goddamn funny, man. Ocho, Neil West asked, Ocho, when did you first get in the cigars? Oh, man, listen, I'd never forget. 1991.

You know when you're young and you want to be cool, you want to hang with the crowd. But one thing I wasn't going to be able to do is to walk in my grandma house smelling like no goddamn weed. So what did I do? Because I wanted to fit in. I just wanted to be a part of them.

I started smoking cigars because I saw it on the show, I think with Jake and the Fat Man. Remember the show Jake and the Fat Man? Yeah, yeah. We had the little bulldog. Yeah. Man, he had a goddamn cigar. I followed him. I went to high school at Beach High.

I went on the beach. There was a cigar place right on Washington Avenue. I'd never forget. And I grabbed the cigar and started smoking cigars when I was with the fellas. And that's how the cigar thing started. Now, as I became to learn more about cigars as time went on, obviously now I have my own brand, and I've been doing, I've been smoking cigars in 1991. That's crazy for a long time.

Very long time. David Bryson said, Ocho, I witnessed greatness seeing your daughter Chanel run track at the Junior Olympics a while back. She's the real deal. How is she? She's doing good, man. Moka's out there. Moka is out there at University of Kentucky.

She just won her first collegiate race last week. she's now she's home and everybody's home in Miami for for Christmas break and Kentucky got a nice little program oh yeah oh yeah oh you know Sidney McLaughlin Abby Steiner with there Abby Steiner yeah Kenny Harrison Yeah so she's up there getting that good work in She won our first collegiate race last weekend so I'm excited I'm excited Yeah I'm I want I want to see the trials I think the trials Is up in Oregon I'm gonna take some time off if it ain't I got some time off

but I'm going to go see. I'm going to see the Olympic trial. I hadn't seen the trial since 96 Olympic trials. Damn. Yeah. They were in Atlanta. You've been busy. Yeah.

But I love tracking field. It's my favorite sport to watch. For real? Yeah. Yeah. My favorite sport is, well, obviously. My favorite sport. Soccer.

Rodney Dinkett. That's my boy from the Crea. Rod. Will you be doing nightcap with the Olympics? Absolutely. we're going to come on during the Olympics. I've already reached out to a couple of participants that I think is going to be in there.

And we're just waiting. But my boy, Ryne, Rob Benjamin, Fred Curley. Man, Fred said, we're going to try to get. Boy, you're about to make me, you about to say that ninja, that ninja blow the nose off you. You crazy's hair. Fred don't want to know something. Fred ain't got that kind of horsepower to hang with somebody like me, man.

Man, look here. Talk about a man. You talk about a man that got, he, he wanted the top. You talk about a guy that got 100 meter speed, 200 meters speed, 400 meters speed, 400 meter speed. You know what I got? Let me tell you what, you know what I got? I got 400 meter speed, 200 meter speed, 200 meter speed, and 100 meter speed to talk about it.

No, no, no. Now you smoke with a cigar, your lungs. She and me. I work out every day. Oh, man, look who calling me, man. Real. Now you know, now you know I'm on the show. right now, now.

Yeah, we still live. Real. Come on, man, you're doing that. You play you playing my money, man. Don't play my money like that. Yeah, man, come on, man. I got to go. Yeah. So, Rock, to answer your question, yes. We're going to try to hopefully we're going to be able to line up some correspondence.

Reach out to some people. I'm very, I'm very, very excited about the Olympics. Wish those guys the best of luck. Aphazel Rebman Love from UK guys Oh thoughts on dating Neil Long

She's single and classy You guys would You guys would love great Would look I guess they said look great together Ocho set this up No we good You good? Yeah

I mean I know her Check us out One of my ex-teammates Harry Swain His wife And Neil were best friends Yeah So I've met

I met her back in night at the first Super Bowl in San Diego. So that was in January of 98. And then there was an event out here back in 2017, 2018, that I actually took a picture with her. And she asked me that I remember. And I'm like, yeah, I remember you. And so we had a conversation. So that's the only, but no, no, no, no, no.

I'm good. I'm good. Man. And then plus, you were talking about you. I may, look here, I may might not have gotten over her. you know he'll call LeBron out of his name, so he might, you know. Okay.

Okay. I don't want no smoke. You know, I'm going to get you right, man. I'm going to get you right. I'm going to get you right. I'm going to get you right. No Regina Hall,

no knee along. I ain't said about no, Regina Hall. I don't know. No, no. They say my celebrity crush. I see my celebrity crush. I know, but we could, we, listen, we could make that.

crush happening. It ain't got to be no crush. It could come into fruition. It could be a real thing. Ocho, why you don't just let me live my life? I'm letting you live your life, but you're living it right. I'm living it right. Ocho, man, you.

Man, chat is out of Cho. Hold on. Man, the real superstar gamer, Unc and Ocho, big fan of you both. I did something unbelievable, unbelievable. I sucked my girlfriend,

toes with butter, ketchup, vinegar, honey. She told me, where did you get? She said, where did you get the idea from? Yeah. I said, Unkin, Ocho. Her response was, oh, my God, I love you. Dave. See what I'm talking about?

Let me tell you something. Hey, young fella. Now, listen, we got to take it to the next level now. Don't wait, the next level. Take it to the next level. Now, you don't went through the toe. Now, get you some whipped cream, right? Turn it on her stomach.

You hear me? Get you some whipped cream. Turn on the stomach. Stay with me. Now get you a strawberry. You better have my plate sitting on the back. Get you, get you, get you, get you a strawberry. Get you a strawberry.

Take that whipped cream. You know what to put it? Oh, no. Hold on. Ocho. Yeah. Ocho, you don't want to look here. You don't got everything from toes to elbows and in between.

Yeah. Oh, we in between right now. we're in between you right now listen man I hear the mind you know where normally exit but you never in her that's where you put the whipped cream

you hear me put the whipped cream you put your mouth boy your whole face boy what you're talking about man Ocho Ocho I got to okay okay with she on the back I get the front part

right but come on Ocho you back I guess I guess you right around the corner Slipper of the tongue ain't nobody fault, Ocho. You rack around the car. But, listen, the goddamn taint ain't up this big, boy, you never lick no ass?

Oh, my God. I mean, Ocho. I mean, oh. Ocho. See, y'all, you see, y'all have ruined it. Y'all don't ruin it. What?

Because I heard that the young boys, I'm talking about on the first date be doing all that. It ain't got to do a young. You got to, listen, you got to be like Christopher Columbus, baby. You got to explore, nah. You got to explore. No, man. Man, you be getting best around to be done got shit wrecked.

Fooling with y'all. Fooling with y'all. Ocho, that you, Ocho, okay, you got a girl. Y'all been together for some year or two. Okay, fine. But Ocho, y'all doing that off the rip now. Yeah, you're supposed to do it? Oh, man.

Come on, Ocho. Now, y'all. Can I ask you a question? You like, do you like, have you been fishing before? Yeah, I like the fish. You ever threw your fish in the goddamn water without the motherfucking bait on there? No. Can you catch a fish without the bait?

But when I go fishing, I'm fishing for a particular type of fish. I don't just go eat it. I just don't go fish for everything. Listen, when you go fishing, whatever you catch, you eat, don't it? No, hell no. I throw it back about it. what I'm fishing for. What the hell wrong with you?

Hell, nah. Man, you're at your damn bad. Like, just because you get on my line, that don't mean I'm a reel your ass here to keep you. Hey, come on, man. You got to stop, that you got me like that.

That was a good one. That was a good one. Now I see why your boy had been out of gas lately. Who that? He's old young, but you young boys, these young boys doing it up out here, I see.

Nah, but listen. me you just listen this ain't nothing new you just behind the eight ball you know listen you got you still got the motorola razor you got the motor old razor and we got the goddamn iphone 15 that's the problem you just say you're not evolving unc you're not evolving we need you to evolve you got devolve at the time man you like you you'd be doing that caveman shit no ohcho but i'm gonna lie i did i walked there one time my home boy i thought my home boy was looking at curtains The way he and the boot like this here, I thought he was looking at the curtain. Yeah.

He got the booty cheeks open like that. Yeah. Yeah. I said, oh, by good. I said, that what y'all doing now? That technique is bad. You can't open this way. You got to get you, you got to get your little oil.

Got to get you a little oil, you know, because you don't want to split the crack, man. Because, you know, if she's dry, you can split the crack. You hear me? You hear me. I can't get a glass. I need to take this to the heat. Ocho, y'all doing too much, Ocho. I swear, Ocho.

Y'all, y'all are doing too much. I'm just trying to get you where you're trying to go, baby. I'm just trying to get to where you're trying to go. Sean. Sean Rackard asked, why you grossed out about eating booty? Yeah, you eat possement raccoon.

But I had to build up with that. That's an acquired taste. I guess booty's acquired taste too. And you think ass ain't acquired taste? What? What? They can they fry? Man,

they do it? They can't do it Jamaica style? That's a delicacy. That's a delicacy. What about Indian? It's a delicacy. It's a delicacy. Yeah, man, I'm telling you.

Man. It's a delicacy. It is? Huh? Yeah. Listen. You take the talk. You know what?

That's, that's, no, I ain't, I ain't going to go to know. I got to say, I got to say, I got to say some good shit for tomorrow. Oh, Ocho. So, so another word. So, this is like, this is like a first date kind of thing. A first date. Boy, first impressions of everything. What?

When you fill out a goddamn resume You go in that goddamn job interview Do you go in that motherfucking half-staping Or you're trying to get the motherfucking job? You're trying to get the job, ain't you? What shit? Huh? Lift them up.

Turn them, flip them, spread them, toes. In the hell like this? Ice. So I need to put the muscle to you, love. Put it to use. Man, listen. But I can't do no 180 like that, no 220, 210.

I need a fun size. I need somebody about 510. No, no, no, I get you. Like you said, like you said, 2-10, I'm all in. Oh, no. Also, I can't hold no, 2-10 like that. Nah, listen, she upside down.

You standing up. Listen, she, she's standing up. Listen, stay with me, now. I'm with you. She's upside down, right? Yeah. But she faces that way. What?

Yeah, that way. And because you, because you strong, boom. And right here, all you got to do is just put your head down. It's right there in front of you. Remember, she's facing that way. So a head down there. the bottom, but she's facing the opposite way. So boom, it's right there in front of you.

A little whipped cream, right here. A little whipped cream. Spray it, put a little cherry there. Boom, get the cherry. Get the, you know, boom, like that. I don't want no chase. Well, if I'm going to do all that, I don't need no chaser. So you putting chase on that thing.

I don't need no chaser. Wait, hold on. What's the chaser? The chaser is the cherry? The whipped cream. Oh, you don't want no whipped cream? Mm-mm. Oh, that's just to dilute the taste in case it.

In case you got a little turtle heads. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. going to the shower. I'm watching that thing myself. I ain't taking her word for it. No, that thing will be when she comes up out of that thing will be hog chitling clean. There you go. There you go. There you go. Yeah, yeah, I'll have to do that one. But you know, I mean, I mean, this is, this is, this is for the rookies. This is for the rookies. Just in case. This is for the rookies. Just in case. But hold on. Sean, you have to understand. I ate possum and raccoon when I didn't really have a choice. Wasn't nobody bringing no baby back

ribs. There wasn't nobody bringing no New York strip and no pride. So, that's what we had to eat. Yeah, right, but listen, I guess that's why my phone don't be ringing. Yeah, I mean, that, that too, but you got the, we got to get you to evolve, maybe. And you got to,

man, I got drunk, you don't drunk our booty juice. I don't drink. You do it all that, you booty juice drunk. No, no, no, I don't drink. I don't drink. I don't drink. I said, I'm in a right state of mocho. And listen, the funny thing about it, Those that are in the chat.

I promise you, Ocho, don't you offer me nothing. Look here, if we get stranded on the desert island, if we ain't got but one jug of water, if you drank out, if you drank out that water, I'm done. I'm out. Hey, hey, just go ahead, go on by just. Hey, Ocho, go ahead on, man. Tell them, hey, tell my kids, I love him.

Tell my brother and sister, I love them. Everything's been taking care of. But I ain't drank it after you, Ocho. I can't do that. You're going to be all right, man. I'm going to be all right. I can't do it, Ocho. I'm just trying to get you right, huh.

I'm just trying to get, I need. Hey, and you don't, hey, and you, and you, and you got, you don't put that much tongue that girl, Bunky? Oh, no. How much? Mm-hmm. That, man. Nah, I look further than that.

About the end to the half? Nah, about, about, about four. Four each of the top. Oh. She. Man, I'll let y'all have that one. Listen. Matter of fact, listen.

I mean, the chat, I mean, I have a YouTube tutorial on stuff like this. So if anybody wants a little bit more extensive, we don't. Extensive tutorial on some of the things you can do. You can go to my YouTube and check out my tutorial. Yo, you can take it out of your tutorial? Yeah, yeah. I have a tutorial.

It called the Ultra Camasutra. The Ocho Camasutra tutorial. Oh, Kamasutra. Yeah. You know, I did have a tutorial. I did have one of those posters. I did have one of them. But man, they can't do all.

Man, look here, man. They just be, they just be putting stuff up there, man. Yeah, sometimes they do it. Yeah. People can't be doing all them position. Yeah. I mean, you can. You can, you know, but.

Well, I mean, to do some of those positions, you need one more plunder in Pitos. I ain't got one of them. Man, you know what I'm saying. My thing got GPA. They go right to where it's supposed to go. I ain't got one of the thing to be looping all around and going up on the corner.

I'm sorry, Ocho I ain't got a Hey Hey Boy, you shot Hey boy you shot at Ocho they say

Uncle is a minute that he has an Ocho is a minute that you released on the world Now you're responsible for this Yeah, unfortunately I am Guys unfortunately I am Bad this joker here

Ocho they say They're going to tell official license game Every time Ocho Tell, an obvious lie, to take a drink. What if, what have I lied about? Anything I've said on this show or multiple occasions is from, is through life experience. Life experience. I don't believe you.

Just like, when I said, I beat, I beat God damn Gilbert Arena's at one-on-one. He was like, hell, no, you didn't. And then he had to come on to tell you the same thing with LeBron. I'm waiting on LeBron. I'm waiting on Westbrook. Who else I beat 101? D-way, Carmelo. Who else I beat 101?

Demar de Rosen. I mean, all these dudes, I mean, I beat one-on-one, and they were struggling against me because I'm so goddamn quick and fast. It had nothing to do with height, and he had nothing to do with none of that. Off the dribble, boy, you're done. Marcus says, my queen and I love the show.

It would mean a lot if y'all could help me wish Tierra Corey a happy birthday. Tierra, Corey, happy birthday. Happy birthday, and make you grab that whipped cream tonight, why? Yeah, that's a special occasion. Yeah, that's special. That's that, see, that kind of stuff.

That's special. I talk about special, special, special, special. Like, fifth anniversary, 25th anniversary, stuff like that. Oh, yeah. Or, okay, Valentine's, her birthday. That ain't, that ain't no, oh, baby, oh, I'm feeling frisky, let's do this.

That ain't that kind of thing. Right. Right, right. I mean, you with me. I mean, this ain't something that you do on a normal. Okay. I mean, it's got to be special, Ocho. Ain't shit me.

Ain't got to be special. Why, you shit, boy, wide open. Why? I'm from, I'm from, I'm from, I'm from. I got to take my glass off of this one now. I'm from Liberty City, man. Wide open. Down 95.

Doing a hundred. What's you waiting on? This is hard, folks. AJ Diaz, D. Uncle, Ocho, love to shore. Two questions. Do you have a favorite undisputed episode? you're your or a segment you're extra proud of and oh it's what story you've always wanted to tell her but never got a chance

man look bro i'm gonna be honest with you a j every episode that i did uh i had six years nine months of great there were a few times that i thought it went over the line but bro i poured my heart and soul into it. I can't even lie. I was as prepared as I could possibly be. And like I said, I'm not going to let two, three bad episodes ruin the six years and nine months of great times. So for me, it was great when Skip gave me the goat and I had the goat and he had the 23 jersey on. I've had, I had some great, I had great moments. I've had a thousand more great. moments. The great moments overshadow any bad moments.

And I think the thing, what happened is that people have replayed the bad moments, so much more so than the good moments. But man, I had an unbelievable. That was, I wouldn't have been here without undisputed. No matter what

transpired at the end, there is no nightcap with Uncanocho, I don't believe, without undisputed. I don't believe that there's Shannon on first take without undisputed. I don't believe I'm the number one sports celebrity voted for by complex

sports personality voted owned by complex without undisputed. So I appreciate everything undisputed did for Shannon Sharp. What you got? Ojo, what you got? What story you've always wanted to tell? Who you want to tell? What you want to tell?

But never got a chance to. A story that I want to tell? Yeah. I ain't really got none. You're going to, you know, I've been to open books since day one, so I don't really, really had nothing. I share every goddamn thing. You know, and the fact when you live your life public like that,

where you don't have nothing, you share every goddamn thing going on. I tweet every goddamn thing I'm doing, where I'm going, what I got going on. So it's like, there's no surprises. So I ain't really got nothing to share. Because I tell the my fucking world,

my every fucking move. Love the show, fellas. Question for both of you. Top five hip-hop artists from at Atlanta and Ocho Top 5 hip hop artists from Miami. God dang. Shit, from Miami, Ross, Pitbull, Uncle Luke, uh, trick daddy.

Shit, Trina, I'm too about, I mean, it's, I don't want to say the wrong. Man, it ain't even fair. I mean, I can't. It's too many people from Atlanta. Oh, man. And that's, there's something I'm missing, but I'm just off the top of my head. I'm just thinking of the people from, from Miami off the top of my head. Yeah.

Well, you can't have no lists from Atlanta that there involved hip hop without Usher. So. Usher, not hip hop. That's art. So. Yeah, I think he's talking rap, though, huh? If you want rap, okay, rap. Bro, we got Outcast, we got Future, we got chains, we got Tia, I mean, not we, Jeezy, Luda, TIL.

Y'all got a lot. Y'all got a lot. Big boy. Andre 3000. Y'all got a lot. Yes. Y'all got a lot. We, man, we loaded down there.

Mm-hmm. But if I had to say, and I know, I know most of these. I forgot, Trina. Shoot, Jackie O. Man, no, I can keep going. And do you know, we got baby. Y'all, we got baby. We got face.

Yeah. We got TLC. We got Monica. Woo. Y'all got a lot. What? We got, you know, we got a skate. Mm-hmm.

We love that. And we got them things down there, too. You know, we got magic, allure, you know, diamond. Huh? Oh, we're talking about the shit. Yeah. Okay, okay, okay. Dudeo, brown.

I want to rock. I want to rock. I want to rock. I want to rock. How should the NFL handle a situation like Matt, Araza going forward. The punt guard. He was the guy that, if I'm not mistaken, San Diego State, right?

San Diego State. He led the nation. He was the Luke Grozel Award. He led the nation in punting. He got selected by the Buffalo Bills. I think, what, second, third round? But he was a high draft pick for a punter. And at an party,

young lady says she was sexually assaulted and accused him as being a participant. Yeah. Hey. Don't be Don't be coming in this goddamn house this time. And it's late. Fuck. Got going on.

It's damned if you do, it's damned if you don't. Because if they did have done nothing, everybody's going to say, man, they ain't do nothing to him. He got accused of this. And if you do something

and then they say, they overreacted. I just don't know in a situation like this. I honestly, honestly, Lou, I don't know how to NFL because they've never been faced with situations because when the NFL was instituted, they

have no manual for this. Right. So this is trial, this is figure it out as you go alone. I'm just glad he was exonerated. He was found it's tough because, you know, you get that scar, you get that letter hung on you.

You know, it's tough. Yeah. It's tough. I hope some other team, hell. Broncos give him a chance. Raven, somebody gave him a chance. He deserves an opportunity.

He's too good. He's too good because the question that I have, Ocho, had this situation not arose, would he be in the NFL? Now that the situation has been, he's been cleared, he's been exonerated. What's the hold up? So hopefully everything works out in his favor and he gets an opportunity to get to play in the NFL. Yeah, he probably will next year. I'm sure, I'm sure somebody will pick him up.

If anything, maybe the bill is bringing it back next year. What you think? I hope so. I hope he gets an opportunity. He deserves that. Amber Lewis said, hey, Uncan Ocho, been a fan since day one. Watch it live from the island of Guam. Love you.

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What we got? ever, okay. Spoke luau. Self-spoken luau. My name is Laurent, and I love what you guys are doing? What advice would you give someone who thinks they're not enough?

Are you talking about you don't think you're enough or she doesn't think she's enough? That's a good one. Wait, what would you? Say that again. Say it again, so I get a better understanding of what he was asking. He says,

what advice would you give to someone who thinks they're not enough? Damn, if you don't think you're not enough, are you speaking for self. I ain't never thought like that. Listen, confident confidence is key. I'm more, oh yeah, oh yeah. Confidence is key.

Me ain't got confidence, but shit. You're losing the battle already. You don't lost half the battle already. Yeah. You always got to have that confidence. Always. Women like a man with confidence. Yeah.

You got to. You got to walk like it. Before you even open your mouth. Yeah. Your aura, your presence. You just. It's just how you carry yourself. Yeah, when they see, when they see, when they see, when they see, when they see, that's a man.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The way, the way I carry myself, the way I conduct myself, I'm firm, I'm sturdy. But they're like, okay, he's subtle. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Smooth.

You got a big heart. Yeah, yeah. Sense of humor. Mm-hmm. I got a great sense of humor. sometimes if you guys had noticed it and yes

they like you know I often wonder like comedians when they meet someone do the do the person do they want them to you know tell them jokes or tell them stories

and I often wonder that but you know Ocho over the last seven eight years people want to hear stories. Yeah. Yeah. Your experiences, some of the things you've been with.

And the stories that I've been telling, these are the ones that I can tell on there. Some things would probably need to go on a book or go in the grave with me. That's the bad part because the stories that I've told, I probably got a thousand more than I can't tell. Right, right, right.

Lainey Ray said Senator Ocho, you always talk about what you're giving others for Christmas. What's the best Christmas gift you've ever gotten and what do you want for Christmas?

Oh, yo, that's a good question. The best Christmas gift best Christmas gift I've ever gotten. And I don't even like gifts. I like,

I like to be doing the given, obviously, to the kids. I do. I'm definitely, I'm a giver. Yeah, I'm a giver as well.

So, The best gift I've ever got. Oh, my goodness. And I'm simple, too, with the gifts I like. I like stuff like soccer jerseys, you know, retro stuff. My mom got me a pair of Air Jordans, the twos. I got a pair of those. I got a, what did I get?

You remember those handheld football game that came out like in the 70s, the late of these. They used to have a football game, like a little football game. Yeah, I got to see it. Damn, I'm trying to think, best favorite,

best questions. I'm trying to, I'm trying to thank the best gift that. And I think, I think, Lain and Ray, I think that's her name. I think when she's asking,

like, I think she's talking about a gift that someone, like a female, that is given. Yeah. Oh shit I think probably I know what the best giver

I gave him a mean one I mean one I mean one Yeah Man sat okay Cato calls came down The tribbling He heard that

And went right back up this I What was Well I gave a mean one You gave a mean one You gave who a mean one Man She told about

Somebody she needed Somebody she wanted Ten inches To make it hurt Yeah I hit her three times They hit her with an elbow Yeah

And I was out to do. Woo. Oh, boy. Don't even play with him. Don't even play with him. Damn, best Christmas. I'm trying to, oh, man, Ocho. I'm like you, Ocho.

I'm really simple. Probably. Not a fact. I can't even, I can't even think of that. I can think of one of the nicest gifts I got in general, but not Christmas time. Oh, my goodness. I think, you know, probably, no, the best, the best gift, it wasn't just Christmas. It was for my birthday.

I had an ex get me a picture of my grandmother. It was the picture that I have in my truck. And it's my brother at the Hall of Fame. And then my grandmother is in the background. Ooh, that's nice. That's the, that's nice. Because it was, I mean, everybody knows what my grandmother me. And then I just like, for the longest time, Ocho, every gift that I had gotten,

I had given the individual the money to get the gift. So when I got, when I started getting things and the woman was buying it with her own money, that I'm like, okay. But I'm simple. I don't really, really. I don't know. I know one of the nicest gifts. Just give me a card.

Just give me a card. And if I deal with you like that, you know. Hey, you know. You know what it is. Yeah. I think the nicest gift I ever got was obviously, you know, you know, I love smart cars. You know, people have made fun of me and my smart cars since 2006. But, Miss, Ms.

thing, you know, every time I hit 10,000 miles on a smart car, I get a new one, you know. And I put the, put the matte wrapper or the black mat wrapper on it. And I got to the 10,000 yard mark on one of them. And this one here surprised me with a new smart car. Did you? Yeah, man. That was, that was, that was. Yeah, I just, you know, just tell you know what, I'm really simple, Ocho.

Because like I said, you know, my kids always say, Daddy, what, what do we get you? What do we get you? Daddy, what can we buy you that you don't already have? And you know, I wish my kids would ask me that because I'm going to say I want me a yacht. I want the same kind of yacht goddamn Mark Cuban guy. So y'all get your motherfucking money together. I wore the same yacht just like that. Well, they better they better start developing something.

Developing something to get that yacht that he got. But for me, I, oh, Joe, I just think, look, like I said, I'm simple, man. I just, hey, miss you, thinking about you, love you. Hey, kiss. I'm good. Yeah. I mean, I,

because Christmas has lost the meaning. Yeah. Because that's not what Christmas was about. I mean, it's not what it's about. But you know, it's hard to tell kids that Christmas is not about giving it. No, I ain't talking about kids.

I'm talking about this. The kids, you know, going to get toys. I see you go get toys and stuff. You know, so I'm just, yeah,

I'm, that's a good one. Let me try the thing. What would be, if somebody, if you could say, you know what, if you say,

if you could get, one thing for Christmas right now. Right now. Me? Right now. Yeah. Oh, give me cigars. I know I have my own brand of cigars, but for me it would be a box of chat.

Listen to me. If y'all want to send me something for Christmas, send me a box of Daniel Marshall, 24-carat gold leaf cigars. Get me a box of, I'm going to say it again. As you know my address. Daniel Marshall, 24-carat. gold lease cigar. Yeah, that's what I want. Now, you get, if I wake up

Christmas morning on the motherfucking 25th and I got a box, the motherfucking Daniel Marshalls, somebody in this house going to be pregnant. And they're going to be due next year around September. I tell you no lie. Yeah. I just, hey, I just, hey,

you see, I had to throw that that little hint out because I know she could probably hit me. You ain't, you ain't going to beat me to the punch. God, I tell you what, he, when I over, You said 2020, 2020 folks We're having kids. Yeah, man. I want to come down there

because I'm going to post a picture my Christmas tree. Yeah. Don't post a picture in my criminal tree. I want to come down there what about it? Yeah. Okay.

And look over that tree that thing, but ball. Yeah. That what I want. That what I want for Krilma. Oh yeah. Oh, Cho, you owe me some underwear laughing at you guys.

Tonight is one of the best, is one for the books. Cool Whip. Ocho, oh, you're also wondering what, too. Nah, she ain't thought, I think she's talking about maybe from laughing. Oh, okay, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You must have done to wear it. Black and gold for life, Ocho, will you let her put whip cream on you from the back?

Oh, oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, just like a, I'm, listen. I just explain. I do all I do. I'm just as a giver. I'm the giver. I'm the pleaser. I don't don't, nah,

no, no, no, sir. No, sir. I like we, I like we was going with it, too.

It's a good question, though. Black, oh, you're saying, you let up with a whipped cream. I don't need a whip cream back. No,

I'm good. I don't play that. No, sir. No, sir. And listen, you got to ask you got to ask these days, too.

What are you going, baby? Yeah, You got to ask these days. That's a good question. And you know me, I don't care. You know, I'm going to tell you. I'm going to tell you.

I talk about everything. I'm my open book. Always have been. But now I don't play that. KGL Nero, what questions do you guys ask on the first day? Also, would you guys consider doing the amazing race together? Much love with you. Hey, the best of you guys.

Bad old train going nowhere with you. Ocho, that means we got to drink out the same jug. That ain't going to happen. That's the first thing you think about the amazing race. We're going to win. We're going to win the amazing. because they are competitive nature. Do I get my own jug?

Yeah, you got your own job. Okay, well, we can possibly do it. Godlie. Well, we can't go through the desert. You're trying to sabotage. Man, you ought to be thinking about that you're going to have a cool whip. Cherry, ice. Yeah, he doesn't have somebody booty cheeks pulled apart like he looked at the

curtains. You know what I bet. Hey, we're going to get you there, man. No, we're going to get me nowhere. I'll leave me alone. We don't get you there. Trust me. Now, leave me alone.

Ocho, you're going to be nasty your whole life? Hey. Clean your life of, Ocho. You want to be the Pope? You want to be the Pope or you want to give a woman hope? Which one? You want to be the Pope or you want to give a woman hope? I want to go on that rope.

Do you guys, hold on that Ocho, do you guys, hold on a Ocho, he says, what do you guys like to ask on a first day? date. How much? Because we're supposed to ask that question, remember? How much date? Huh? Yeah. How much? Hey, no, what do you, what do you know, what do you like to do? Where are you from? You got the brothers and sisters.

You know, what do you do for work? You know, are you, are you from? Are you from here? I ain't, I ain't asking all that bullshit, man. That's that old. I ain't got time. That's all that gray area. Shit, man. Man, what's up? What you're trying to do? Hell, no. We're going to eat, man.

What are we going to do? You're trying to. So what you're trying to do? You're trying to box or throw rocks. Are we barbecue in a meal doing? All these questions and all this shit. I'm sitting, we at dinner. We at first date.

I'm sitting here pretending like I care, you know, talking about all this bullshit. I really don't give a fuck about. Like, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Man, you're trying to fuck or what? What's up? Oh, Joe. I mean, you know,

Ojo, whatever, you're young. You got that for all that, I can't, Ocho, I'm 55, you know what? I said, y'all, what's we going to do? You know, because you know, I mean, kick me pocket, Ocho, you know. Come on. Baby.

Man, Uncle here talking about first day questions, man. He's going, asking all these questions, man. Like, you know, where you like to go, what you like to do and not, man, you're trying to hear all that shit. What you're trying to try to? I'm trying to flip your ass upside down. No, no.

I'm trying. I'm going to make you touch to every goddamn, every wall in this goddamn hotel. I ain't what you're doing. And where you, I can't got time for that shit. I mean, I'm 55, man. I'm 55. What, what we do? I got, Ocho, I got that.

Ocho, come on, man. You know, when you get 55, man, you know, you just can't just roll up and say to stay like a 20-year-old, 30-year-old. Yes, you can. Yes, you can. Just, hey, listen, you pop that dime and you ask the question. You say you put it under the tongue, right? That liquid, that's a liquid you put up on your tongue.

Yeah, yeah. Put it under your tongue. You ask the question. You got time for all that shit. All these questions. What did they say no? Huh? Then your stomach hurting.

Why would your stomach be hurting? Because when one say no, you got another that's going to say yes. Nah, no. Next? Next? I'm going to take it home. I don't struck out for the night. That was one.

In baseball, there's three strikes. No. I got one conversation. I got one day tonight in me. Yeah, well, you bet it into me, boy. I'm just saying back in my day, boy, I used to have about three four dates, one night. Yeah.

Oh, hell no. Yeah. Yeah, that's the old. That's the old. That's the old me. Uh, I can't believe you asking that to me. What it, what did, what it looking like tonight?

Yeah. Well, yeah. Come on. Man, we. I mean, you ask you like, That's the problem. We start, we start like everything. It's so fake, though.

Like you go on a date, you ask all these questions, you ask all this stuff, you really don't care about. And you go through the motion just to just get the, just get. Oh, Joe. Skip the bullshit. I'm speaking as older. Think about all, even the women, the women that in the chat, think about all the times you went through what I call the emotions, doing everything the right way. the dates, the wine and dine, the blah, blah, and he reaches the ingot, and then boom, he's gone. Oh, Joe.

It's gone. You can't ask a woman on the first. He's gone. You can ask whatever you want, depending on who you are. Some people don't have a choice. Sometimes you have to go through that. It ain't in, but I can't ask if you barbecue and a meal doing on the first night. Well, that's not you.

I ask, and you see where we at now four years later. The chat calling you Mr. O'Nasty. Not Mr. Nasty. Not Mr. O'Nasty. Man, listen, man, I carry myself in a very, a very, uh, classy way. Because it wasn't until, until this, this show has opened me up to, to, to, to let this all out. Yeah. Oh, man.

Cuano asked, what's up, Uncinocho? Do you guys have any advice for high school seniors looking at? to play at the next level, but not having much luck getting offers. I mean, fuck that offer, baby. Go where they want you. Yeah. Go where they want you. If you're getting some offers, what's wrong with the offers that you're getting?

I mean, look, the reality of Ocho, when I, when you're growing, when, I mean, look, I might want to date old girl over here. Right, right, right. But she ain't interested. So what am I supposed to do? Go checks after somebody that's not interested. Nope. Go with you on it.

Take the woman that likes you, not the woman that you liked. So go to the school that wants you, not the one you want to. Right. Works every time. Every time. What else work every time, won't you? I can't believe you don't owe you. Boy, the onecho, you don't send me for it.

For what? You. But listen, I'll tell you every time, and I'm going to keep on tell you, man you ain't living you're living you alive but you ain't living there's a difference you alive you're alive you are live you're doing great things in life i can't take that from you you're alive unc but you ain't living there's a difference there's a difference and i'm gonna get you to cross that bridge soon man i ain't i ain't got you there yet oh cho but you try to put whipped cream and honey on the fur off off the muscle man off the muscle but we ain't um he's from the real listen to

Tomorrow ain't promise. What's you waiting for? Tomorrow is not promised. What are you looking for? I mean, if I eat booty on the first night, there's something happened to me, God, they're going to let me in the kingdom.

They're going to be in the kingdom. They're going to be in there for me. Don't worry about it. Because, God, damn, you know what they were doing back then? You know what they were doing all this, they don't do it. I don't know who started this.

Well, listen, there's only one person that can see without anything happening, and that was motherfucking Mary. now everybody else the birds and the bees they didn't take they don't took this thing to a whole new level

it ain't no level it ain't no level listen what I'm talking about what I'm talking about not really what I'm talking about it's just like technology technology has evolved year in and year out

and gotten better with time you got to do the same thing you're still stuck in the goddamn 50s you you you like you you fresh safford in the bed anybody know what these are what the hell is that them joins them joins i want the uh the people in the chat you know i got i'm gonna start where i'm gonna do it looks like somebody drew on them um i used to wear shoes i mean i got a nice collection but

what happened is i don't really go anywhere so i guess now each night i'm gonna have to bring out a pair of my shoes and see if the chat know what these are. Hey, you got, you got joins, but can't who, that of, that's, that's counterproductive. All I know is that I average 30 as a high school senior. What do you average? At a high school senior? Yeah.

You average 30 as a high school senior. I'm beating NBA players in one-on-one. There's a difference. There's levels to this. Oh, there's, there's, it's a difference. Oh, Joe, I don't, I, I, I stopped playing basketball. I ain't played back. Oh, Joe, honestly, I have not played basketball.

played the game of basketball seriously since 1991. This is what you failed to realize. I don't even play basketball. I don't even watch the game of basketball. I can't even talk it. But I can beat the best at it because I can play the game. Oh, Joe. I'm not good.

You know what? I ain't listened to the who? That ain't no accident. That ain't no accident. That is an accident. Look like a mosquito stung. you. A big old bump.

You know what? That might be, hey, Dr. Pill Papa pop that thing for you. Oh, shit.

Look, oh, Lord. Ocho, we, look, we had 241, Ocho.

We can't be going this long, Ocho. Wait, we've been on here, what? We've been on here two hours and 40 minutes?

Yes. How to hell? It feels like we just started. We ain't know what just started. Wait, I'm curious. You know what? I don't even know. Listen, I'm on the show and I don't even know the goddamn show format.

How long are we supposed to do? Originally, we were supposed to do 60 to 75 minutes. Okay, 60 minutes. So we're supposed to do an hour? No, actually, actually, just inform me, the original version was supposed to be 25 minutes. For 20, oh, I talked, I could hold a conversation for 25 minutes. We can't do it. That ain't going to work.

I talk too damn much for 25 minutes. Clearly, we can't do 25 minutes. Clearly. Nah. That's apparent. It doesn't look like we could do an hour either. I ain't enough time. It's too much stuff.

It's too much stuff to talk about. There's something wrong with you, don't owe you. Hey, we might as well go to three. I need to chat to pray for you. For what? All that. Everything I talked about the chat probably already doing. And the ones in that, and the one, the people going to act like they're not,

they, man. And you know, I thought I would do it. I thought I would do it something. with the wheelbarrow. You don't have got to, you don't do, you know, if I'm saying,

Ocho, you don't know with that wheelbarrow? Yeah, man, you boy. You know, people,

okay, man. Those people, I've got the hip right. Who! Oh, hell,

dog. But I don't know, Ocho, you're going to a whole new level, Ocho. I see it. I see it how you,

you got them going crazy. Huh? The chat, the chat, the chat praying for you, Ocho. He said, you try to be a bad

influence on Unk. He is. He tried to uh, Leon Leonard Edwards beat Kobe Covington. Yes. We should take up a collection. I'm going to send Leon Edwards. We're going to find Leon Edwards information. I'm going to send him five grand. I'm going to send him five grand personally. Who Leon Edwards?

Yep. But what round, what round um, I think it, I think he, I don't think he knocked him out. And when the decision... Yep. But just the fact that he whipped his ass because all Kobe Covington,

he tries to get around. Oh, LeBron James is this. Bro, LeBron James is an NBA player. You should worry about whipping MMA fighter's ass. Beat Kubaro Usman. Beat Leon Edwards. Those are the guys you should beat. What I look like to about, oh, yeah, messy.

I beat your ass. Rolf of the dog What? I was I'm gonna send Leon Edwards 5 grand personally for my count for whipping your ass Kobe Covington

I love this Beating Beat him Beat him Now take that What else you got, Ocho? You got any more

Any more suggestions for me? To get you some whipped cream You got whipped cream in the house? No Baby I'm diabetic We got whipped cream left Huh?

Hey, Ocho, they say you should start your own brand of whipped cream. Nah, I ain't, nah. I ain't, nah. That why I see. Bad this you're going to do on the first night. I see why you can't shake them. You doing all this on the first night? Well, you got to understand the first night.

This is, I'm telling you what happened, all this is the result of what's happening here, this foundation that I bought. Ocho, I, look here, I ain't got no problem. Look here. Okay, I get it. No, you don't. No, you don't.

I get, Ocho. What I'm just saying, Ocho, I mean, that's like on the first date, you know, so you take it a female out and you got a $1,000 meal. Can we build up to it? What you, if you want to bill, you can get some Legos. I didn't say it, Ocho. If you want to bill, you can get you some Legos. Oh, my, I do it. Listen, when you know, you know.

See, a. that one now when you know you know when I know I know yeah you know you know if you don't know I'm gonna make sure I'm gonna find one for you and you gonna know well we've been on this we've been on this thing three hours

I don't know to tell you Joe I just I just wish you I'm praying for you me in the chat we're praying for you yeah yeah yeah shoot like listen I'm I'm praying I'm praying I'm praying I mean I guess you know I'm praying for the chat what the more what the more people would say, I guess we all standing in the need of prayer.

We all standing in the need of prayer. All of us need prayer, man. Yeah. That would never go without. We all need prayer. Always. Without the shadow of a doubt. You pray after you have sex?

Who? You. Damn. You know what? No. I do. Who you praying to, huh? I don't know, baby. love forgiveness. I know I would roll. I know I would roll. Wait, hold on. Hold on.

You're praying after sex, but you don't do nothing too crazy. So you ain't did nothing wrong. We're going to need you to evolve and backslide a little bit. Then you got to ask for forgiveness. Oh, Cho. Oh, Cho. No, it's a builder. Ocho. Okay. What guy, you, baby, you're 55. How long are you going to keep building? Let me ask you a question.

Were you a first team all pro your rookie year? You had to learn the road, had to learn how to run the routes, had to learn how to get open, had to learn how to drop your hips, get into and out of brakes. You build that up on Cho? Come on now. We, we, I mean, come on now. Come on now. But the clock is ticking now. Man, I'm 55.

You make a seat like I'm 7580. I ain't, I ain't, shit. 75, 80, you shouldn't be. This should, you should be done. You should be done. I ain't gonna quit till it quit. I got you. You right.

You write by that. Yeah, bad. I'm healthy. I eat my bruise and vegetables. What? Did you, I didn't want to make so. Do you had that plus one yet? Oh, Joe.

I would be straight. I'll be straight. Yeah, there's no. Bahamas. When is this? I told you what it is. Are we going to do a nightcap from the location? Oh, we could do nightcap from the wedding.

Baby, we can do nightcap from the wedding? She said, yeah, nightcare from the wedding. So it gives the people that aren't able to come to the wedding an opportunity to see our. Yeah. We have like $100,000 in the chat. Oh, easy. Easy. I'm gonna be in my suit

and she's gonna change like three or four times. I style her dress. I'm styling her dress. You did it? I mean, I am. One of her looks. What's your color? She got the color.

I don't know the color combination off the top of my head, but I'm doing one of her dress and one of her looks. You know, I ain't even know it was that women are supposed to change two or three times. You don't have to, but they do do that. I didn't know that.

Yeah, you got your actual bridal ground. You got the reception. Right, right. And then they change again. So I'm doing the third. I'm doing her third look. I'm doing a third look. So I'm excited.

I'm excited for you. Yeah. I mean, that may be the opportunity over there. You know, I let my hair down. You know what I'm saying? There you go. There you go. You know what I'm saying?

Do they got, they got whipped cream in the Bahamas? I've been saving it. I've been saving it. I've been saving it. I've been saving it. Let's go. Come on, you don't have been saved with Ojo? Hold on, hold on.

I'm plugging my computer back in. You've got to that. Hey, listen, man. Boy, boy, if this ain't the greatest goddamn show, if this ain't the greatest goddamn show, boy, my stomach is hurting from laughing.

Listen, we could have fun, but then we could be serious too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We, you know, you know, because there's something wrong with you, Ocho. There's something wrong with you. Oh, ain't nothing wrong with me, baby. Ain't nothing wrong with me. Listen, I've adapted.

You said that earlier on a topic we were talking about earlier, about adapting, adapting to the times. You're not adapting and evolving with the times. You're still using the big ass cell. Remember the big, big Motorola, Motorola 1800 cell phone? That's what you're still using, you know? So what does y'all be using? Huh? what should I be using?

Maybe the new Android or some shit or the new iPhone, but everything all your life has to evolve and adapt with the times, but you stuck way back and goddamn shit, well, you stuck when the goddamn Manhattan's first came out. No, Ojo, you know, you boy,

you know, I'm slow and steady. Yeah, we're going to get you right, though. Now, you're slow and steady, but you worse than slow and steady because at 55, And you, you, and you frowned upon just a little, a little, a little, I mean, you got to be, come on, Cho, damn. All right. We, we, we're going to stay off that. We're going to stay out of that.

I mean, you get, I'm in the right, okay, I ain't, I ain't in the far right lane, but I'm next to the, I'm next to the right lane, which is the slow lane. You're trying to get me to go into HOV. You should have been in the HOV years ago. You ain't even in the HOV. You parked over, you part on the, on the meridian. You parked in the meridian, which a goddamn flow. flashes on trying to get over, but the traffic just passing by you. You're scared to come out.

I ain't scared to come out. You're scared to come out. It's okay. We're going to get you there. And yes, they do sell whipped cream in the Bahamas, so you're going to be ready. We're going to get you right. Babe-based, Jim. 20-5?

No, fool. 2025. No, 225. Yeah, it's already already said. February? February. wait February February 22nd

So what's going on this 24th Huh What's going on the 24th? Nah We're getting February 22nd 2025 Oh shit Yeah

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