The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Nightcap - Mahomes & Lamar Dealing + Date Etiquette

Episode Date: October 23, 2023

Shannon Sharpe and Chad Ochocinco Johnson discuss the Eagles beating the Dolphins, Patrick Mahomes dealing, Lamar Jackson MVP level, date etiquette, and more.  #Club #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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So I know I said on Thursday that we're going to have a special giveaway. We need a little extra time because we wanted to be special. We don't want it to be rushed. We don't want to just give you some grab bag ass, you know what. So we're going to take a little bit more time. We're going to be a little bit more thorough. And we're going to make sure that when we do the giveaways, you really, really appreciate what we're giving you.

So without any further ado, Ocho, the Eagles beat the dolphins tonight, 317. Jalen Hertz was 23 of 31, 279, 2-7 touchdown, a Russian touchdown, did have that pick six. A.J. Brown, 10 catches on 15 targets, above 37 in a touchdown. Let's take the Eagles first. what did you like, what didn't you like? You know what? At first, I could tell you, in the first half, I thought it was going to be, before the game even started,

I thought it would be a high-scoring game. I'm thinking 40, 35 some points, obviously, with both offenses, high-octane. Obviously, the Dolphins run game was stifled in the first half. The Eagles then seemed to be intimidated, you know, with the challenges in facing Tyreek. Obviously, he did get away a few, a few times. obviously scoring on,

scoring once the Philly defense controlled the line of scrimmage, which is really good throughout the second quarter. And they really came on once the dolphins fell behind in the second half where the dolphins had to throw the ball to try to get back in the game and try to make it, try to make it a game.

But obviously they couldn't do that. So the Eagles played decent football, obviously the turnover from Hertz. You can't do that. You don't want that, especially in the game of this magnitude. Yeah. And if it wasn't for that,

defensive line and how good they were and the Eagles being ahead, it could have been a lot different. And the outcome of the game could have been different due to that intercession, but they played so well defensively, they were able to overcome it. Yeah, I like what I saw.

They started getting A.J. Brown involved in the ball game, late in the ball game. And I think that's where frustration comes. He's like, guys, if y'all can get me the ball in the third and fourth quarter, you damn shouldn't get it to them in the first half. And you see in the first half, they were middle and round. It seems like they couldn't get it, couldn't get on rhythm. And the moment Jaila Hurts said, you know what, man, let me feed this man just rock.

Yes, sir. The offense started going because the Eagles didn't run the ball as well as that we know the Eagles can run the football. So I thought Miami did a great job of that of taking the way of the run because the Eagles want to run the football and then set play action up off of that. But I thought the Dolphins did a great job of controlling the line of scrimmage as far as running the football. And they got after him also. Chubb had a sack, I think, 15, I forget his name. On the other side, he had a couple of sacks. Yeah, Phillips did a great job of pressure.

As a matter of fact, he got a sack off of Lane Johnson for the first time somebody's gotten a sack off of him since 2020. So that lets you know what type of pass rush that he is. But I did notice something early on. I saw Jalen Hurts limping. He scrambled, tried to get out, got out of the pocket. He got a first down, but he kind of pulled up Gympie. He came out in the second half with a knee brace.

I don't know if anybody saw it, but I saw it. Because, you know, quarterbacks, if they're not customary used to wearing a knee brace, they're not putting anything on. They like to feel free. They like to be able to put it. Right, right. Not just quarterback, everybody.

I mean, wire receivers doesn't like wearing knee braces or if you don't spat your ankles. You don't like having taped ankles or anything like that. It makes you be respected. Right. You don't want to feel restricted. But I thought once he settled in, I thought Jaila Hertz, once he settled in, he played really well. But again, we see that turnover margin, that intercession,

is steadily increasing, Ocho. Because last year, in 17 games, he only had six picks. He got eight right now. We're not even at the midway point. So I'm sure that's something that they're talking about. They're constantly on him about guys. As we get, the Cowboys are coming up here shortly. And the one thing, what did their defense do?

They pride themselves on taking the ball away, putting their offense on a very short field. I think one of the things you also have to notice is, obviously that pick, it wasn't like someone was being covered and it was just actually picked off, but it was a tip ball. Yeah. He was trying to get to somebody and Jerome Baker was able to get his hands on the tip ball. It was unfortunate.

If anything, I think you could just do that one away through it, that, just threw it in the grass or whatnot. But on the Dolphins end, on the Dolphins end is this is more of a win for them still, even though they did lose the game. To be able to keep a game that close, playing a team like that. and you didn't have Xavier Howard, didn't have Jalen Ramsey, who will be back maybe next week or maybe the week after. The week after, it's a good thing.

It's a good thing because the backup played extremely, extremely, extremely well for the Dolphins. And when you get those two back in your arsenal, who's knowing what that's going to do for your defense? Right. With two turnovers tonight, Jalen Hertz, has 10 turnovers on the season. That's second most in the NFL,

trailing only Desmond Ritter who has 11. last year Jalen Hurts had eight interceptions all season long and he has 10 already. So turnover, yeah, 10 turnovers total. He had two more turnovers tonight. Tua was 23 of 32, 216, one touchdown, one interception. And I don't, Miami's going to need to show me something against different competition.

Now, we see what they did to the Denver. We saw what they did to the Panthers. We see what they did to the Giants and the Patriots. But when they step up in competition, the Eagles, The bills. We see them get handled. So in order for if they want you to, if they want us to take them serious,

they're going to have to be team because I'm not so sure how many teams that we think that they've beaten, we think the Broncos are going to make the playoffs? What about the Giants? What about the Panthers? Maybe the Chargers? Maybe the Chargers?

Patriots. I don't think the Patriots are going to make it. The Chargers, maybe. The Chargers are two and four right now. So it ain't looking too hot for them. It ain't looking promising for them either. So what we've seen is that when they step up in competition, remember they hang 70 on Denver one week,

and then they get almost a 50 spot hung on them the following week. Right, right. And then tonight, Miami, Philly steps on the gas, and all they see is tail lights. So Miami's going to have to pick it up when they step up in competition. Right. I think the only problem with Miami is I think they need to start faster. They need to start faster.

Actually, when you plan better teams that are, that are really good defensively like the Eagles. The first half, they were nowhere to be seen. They were nobody seen. They were stifled in the first half. They couldn't really run the ball that we want to. They didn't get in the flow offensively as being able to throw it and facilitate the ball the way they like.

There were no little dinks and donks, little passes here and there. But Tyreek didn't get going the way he could. Jayne Wadle didn't get going the way he could as well until more so in the second half. I think if they start faster, then there won't be as much pressure. have to play from behind like they were in this game. Oh, yeah. But Tyreek did drop a touchdown. He did drop a first down.

And listen, I don't even call, I'm not even calling that touchdown, that drop for the touchdown. He was moving so goddamn, hey, oh, listen to me. Tyree was moving so goddamn fast. He was bringing the ball in and his knee hit the ball out. But see, and I went back when he said a couple of years ago, he said a couple of years ago, I said this, I said that. Steve Smith, Sr. and I, well, you know, Smitty, we were on.

And I said, I don't think Tyreek is a natural, a natural catcher of the football, meaning his hands, like a Devante, like some of the great receivers that we've seen. That doesn't mean he's not great. You know what I'm saying? Everybody does, I mean, some wide receiver might not have great speed. Jared didn't have great speed, but that didn't diminish his greatness. Yeah, great. Jerry Rice had what I like to call football.

Yes. Football speed, right. A Lafis Gerald. There have been Chris Carter. There have been some great receivers that didn't have. I reached speed. He took it and said, well, I'm trying to diminish him. No, bro, you don't have to possess all the physical tools in order to be great. And I'm like, bro, I was thinking about it. Like, bro, you was on my podcast. If you felt some type of way, you had me right there. You could

have talked to me either on the podcast. And bro, I'm going to rub something about you right quick. Or you could have talked to me after because, you know, you came with your family. We talked, you know, chew the fat before we went before we got on the pod. So like I said, God, if you got a problem with something I said, listen to the context in which I said it. I didn't say you weren't great. I said, I don't believe you are a natural catcher of the football meaning hands.

And that's okay. He's okay. I saw him before the game today. I was field side. Obviously, I was doing my little EA a little mad and stuff, but I saw him before the game. Actually saw all the playing before the game. He didn't mention anything. He didn't mention anything about it. So everything was cool on

that end. But listen, when it comes to catching the ball, obviously is situational. There's some, some, some people are more comfortable catching with, catching with the body. And that's okay. Yeah. It's okay. Because there's one, there's one goal in common for all receivers.

You got to be able to catch the ball. Right. You know, how you, how you do it is on you and it's based on the situation at the time. Yes. Yes. Yes. Because there are some quarterbacks that, that's not a natural throw of the football. Right.

You take Aaron Rogers, he's just a natural throw of the football. That he's born. We born with that. Yeah. Aaron Rogers can be 60 years old. And he might not be able to throw him a 30 yards, but it'll be nice and tight. Oh, yeah.

Because he's just that gifted at throwing the football. The Chiefs beat the charges, 3117. Patrick Mahomes, 32 or 42, 424, 4 touchdown, 1 interception. Mahon boy is back on top of the AFC. Ocho, I tweeted something today. If we keep labeling these quarterbacks elite, we're going to have to call Mahom something else. Because his level of greatness is, I mean,

when you watch him play and he's dealing, it's not even close between him and anybody else. Listen, he was dealing like he was in a casino in God damn Vegas, this game. He played for getting the ball, facilitating the ball around to everybody. So defensively, it makes it that much more difficult. Who can you key on?

Because if you key on Kelsey, somebody else has hurt me. I'm going to let somebody else hurt me. I'm going to let somebody else hurt me. I ain't going to let Kelsey kill me on National Tideast. and he happened to be a tight end. This is the funny thing about it. Patrick Mahomes is so great. Patrick Mahomes is so good that if you do key on Kelsey,

then you got to pick your point because the person at the helm holding the football is going to kill your regards to what you choose to do defensively. And it's amazing. It's amazing, Ocho, how he's been able to trant, how to have you been able to, to change his game. Because when he had Tyreek,

Tyreek could blow the top off the coverage. He could throw the ball 60 yards over your head. head. Now he really doesn't have a guy that can consistently get down the field like that. So now it's more 10 yards here, jail break screen, shovel pass, flat route. Okay, let me scramble outside. Make ad live. He's, his big deep threat target has been taken away. And he still last year goes to win the MVP, goes and win the Super Bowl MVP. That just goes to show you the level of greatness that he doesn't miss a beat when you take one of the greatest weapons in football NFL history away from him.

Right. And he's still able to do what he does. I thought he was going to go for five bills today. Because he had like 320 something, 325, 3.30 at the half. At the half. So I'm like, oh, yeah, he's about to come out. He might to come out. And to read them, I think they came off the pedal a little bit.

I think they came off the gas a little bit. I think when it comes to coaches, I think they have a pack where they don't just plainly disrespect the opponent to an extent. I just have a feel. I have a feeling because they could have easily, Patrick could easily thorned for five. Listen, I wouldn't, I wouldn't,

I wouldn't go beyond, say he could have through for six if he wanted to. If they were to step on the gas and keep running the offense the same way they were in the first half, they could have done that. But here's the thing to Ocho is that that's what kind of got Atlanta in trouble in the Super Bowl. You're up 283 and you keep running, you keep your foot on the gas, and all of a sudden you get a script sack, you get a pig sick, you start taking unnecessary risk.

So Andy says, okay, let's take, let's take a, check down. Let's take a flat route. Let's not do anything crazy because our defense is playing so well and give kudos to Kansas City and Steve Spagnola with that defense. They've done a great job this year. And Patrick Mahomes, for the most part, has done a great job of not putting them in a harm's way. Now, he did throw one early in the ball game and Asante Samuels came down with it, but it was kind of like a punt. It wasn't in negative territory. But the chiefs are playing really well right now. I think if you had to take a vote, I think most people would vote them number one in the AFC.

And no surprise, Mahomes is always going to be hovering around that MVP. Tua, I think before today's game, Tua was the MVP favorite, followed by Mahomes. Lamar's definitely creep back in. We're going to talk about him a little later. But I thought Travis was going to break my record on National Tide Ends Day. He had a hundred. And he wouldn't do you like that.

He wouldn't do you like it. But what's the record? You 12, 219, right? 214, 12 for 214. But you was cooking. Against Kansas City. You got to tell the people that, you got to tell the people that story. The people that don't know, you know, about your record, man.

But here's the thing, the Ocho, the funny thing is, I had 31 yards at the half. That's it? That's it. That's it. That's it. You got all out on the back end. Got it got in the back end. We came out to half and Coole said we're going to call counterpass.

And we called counterpass. We knew Greg was going to start the game out with cover two. I get down the hole. I split it. Because Greg Robinson, rest of soul, he used to be our defensive coordinator. When we won the Super Bowl, he was out D.C. And I remember telling him, I was like, Greg, if I ever face this defense, I would kill you guys. He's like, oh, no, Shannon.

I say, Greg, I say some of the things that you do is just unsound. I said, if you, if somebody had a tight end that was as gifted, that could run and was fluid, I'm telling you, lo and behold, I get, I get Greg. He's the defensive coordinator at Kansas City. Yeah. Man. And you know, Ocho, once you get going. Yeah.

The ball, the football, I mean, I could see Paul Taggibu spinning on the ball. That's how laser focused I was in on the ball. Really. It looks like a beach. Lock in. Yeah, yeah. It didn't matter what grease you throw. Grease could throw it off the top of my shoe.

I was just everything. It was just one of those days. And then I was like, he got 143 at the half. I was like, wow. And then the charge is like, no, we got to take you away because you single-handedly. 143 is a lot for tight-in and a half. Now, you know, I've had, I think I had a game.

We played Carolina one year in 97. I think I had 154 at the half. but that's a lot of catching for a tight end and they started doing the same thing. They started doubling me and the game got out of the hand. But if you notice, four games Taylor Swift has attended.

Travis Kelsey is averaging 108 yards receiving per game. In the game that she hasn't attended, he's averaging less than 47. Now, I don't know if they're in a relationship or not, but I got some money for her. She comes every time she comes here, the hundred thousand.

Hey, listen. A hundred thousand. I like, I like that, you know, we're on a football topic right now, but I want you to look. Just stay with me real quick, baby. I want you to understand what the presence of Taylor Swift has done for Travis Kelsey, not only on the field. Yeah. Off the field.

Things for him have just been in his favor. And God always has favor, but God said, when he can findeth a woman, he didn't even get to the white part yet, but the blessings and his company is continued to run it over. I just want you to see where I'm going with this, but I'm going to talk. I'm going to get back on that later, but just understand. Oh, Joe. You didn't know.

You're my Taylor Swift. Since you came into my life with a nightcap, you my Taylor Swift. I don't need you. I don't need the Taylor. You're Taylor. Yeah, listen, I appreciate you. I love you again for the opportunity,

and I'm glad we're doing well, but I'm talking about for us to get for you, for you personally. Because I'm here for you. God put me in this position and God put me in your life to get you in a position that you've never even envisioned before. In order for you to get there, it's going to take a woman's touch, you know? It's like your pencil. You can write with your pencil, right?

Yeah. Because you got it right just fine. But something about when you get a woman on your side and she's sharp in that motherfucker. And, man, let's stick the football right now. We can't get off. We can't get off track. What happened to the woman every time I write something, she erase it? What I do with that one?

No, you ain't going to have that problem. You ain't going to have a problem because the woman that you're going to deal with now at this point in life, they're going to understand. You know, they are there here to sacrifice and understand the journey in which you are about to embark on and they are willing to enjoy and take that ride with you. But if I know, yeah, I hear you. If I'm Travis Kelsey, she's coming to the games. I don't care what y'all say. She's coming to the games.

I'm superstitious like that. She can't come to the game or she is? She's coming. Let me ask you a question. Let's just say for the sake of- This is our game right here. You got an extra seat in there? Yeah.

So let me ask you this. Let's just say for the sake of argument before you met Ray, you play it. And you have a girl show up to the game and you go for 10 for 190 and two touchdown. And she comes to the next. She comes to another game and you go for $8 for $1.50 at a tub. is she coming to the next game or you say,

nah, babe, you chill on this one. No, she comes. You're down right. You're coming. Yeah, you know, I'm not really superstitious. So I remember I put together a string of games like that. We played San Diego. I had 260.

Then we played in the warrants the following week. And I had 190. And I think it was maybe five, 500, almost 600 yards in a two-game span with like five touchdowns, right? But then when I think about it, there was nobody coming to them games. about the game plan that they had in place for me. But I thought that was more so on why that I had the games that I did.

But that's a good one. That's a good one. And, like, Travis got to, she got to come to home games. You got to go to away games. Oh, she's coming. Oh, oh, I'm, baby, don't you worry about it. I'm gassing the jet up. Don't you worry, don't you, hey, you are you?

Don't you spend your mind? I'm gasing this jet up here. As a matter of fact, a Clark Hunt is paying for the gas. It is the chief's owner. He got the, this was on him, babe. Just come on and come. Oh, let me ask your question.

What's your highest ranking on Maddie? What's the highest you've been ranked? The highest I've been ranked? Yeah. I think if I'm not mistaken, a 98 overall. What? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I would, listen, I was that boy back in the day, nah. I was, I was nice. I think, you know, for me, and I'm gonna be, I'm gonna be honest with you. I don't think people understand really how good I was unless you are really a football person. Right.

Because the antics and the fun and entertainment that I had, it takes away from all the hard work I actually put in to be able to pull some of the shit I did off. And I'm just being honest. And that goes for people, even the, even the most highest analysts or those that have been watching the game for years,

they allow the antics and entertainment to get away from actually how good I was. Well, that's, I mean, that happens. But I like it like it like that. I enjoy that. I enjoyed it. And that's what I wanted to remember for. So it is what it is. Well, that's what happens.

I mean, they say, he just talks, he's loud, he's braggadocious and all that. But, and so now when the NFL has started this National Tidans Day, and the NFL started posting clips and people like, hold on, okay, now I see why Uncle was like that for real. You was that boy now, yeah. But here's the thing, Ocho, so you were the 98. I was one of the few guys that's ever been a hundo.

Yeah, but a higher than 99. Yeah, for show. I can hear him. A hundred. Run tell that. For real? A hundred. What year was this?

99. A hundred. I need me some shoes that said a hundred because they ain't been a head. The gold shoes? No. A hundred got to be platinum. Goal is for 99. I need platinum shoes.

Basically, I got, I got to check the archive. I got to check the vote. I got to check the vote. I ain't never heard of no hundred. Because normally, because normally during the game, I wore red shoes because I clown foods. That's what I did.

For real, for real, the old show. How's it good one? I said, look here. Let me tell you what I'm going to do. I'm going to give it to you the first half. Because you're going to be jealous that I didn't give you any,

so I'm going to give it to you the second half. But all y'all are going to get it. All y'all are about to get all this here. So don't worry about it. Don't worry about to tell him to shut up and stop talking to me because I'm about to start talking to you. I'm about to hit you up, too. Oh, yeah.

Shout out. You a hundred. I got it. I got to do my home, right. A hundred. I ain't, I ain't never, out. I know you didn't. And after that, nobody else could ever get a hundred.

They never, after 99, they cut it out. After 99, they cut it out. No, no more hundies. You were the last hundred then. Last one. Okay. After me, there will be no more. Okay, I like that.

I like that. It's only, it's up there right now. They're looking at it. When they got the 99 tight-died, like, Grant was 99 for a couple of years. Kelsey's been 99 for a couple of years. But the first guy up there, you better stop playing with me.

I'm too big of a cat to be played like a kitten. Somebody got to send that to my phone, man. Somebody got to send that to my phone. Hold on. Hold on. That's like, hold on. That's like being in the grocery store and starving. How the hell you go on the grocery store and starve?

You work at EA. How do you talk about 99? And you talk about 99. I was still in high school in 99. So I got to go back. I got to go back and check. That's how long I've been kicking for. When you were the junior, I was cooking them.

I keep telling you, people used to see me on the field with a pain, with a pot. They say, man, what you got that part? I said, I've got that part. I said, I've got this pot out here on the field. I'm cooking crabs today. Yes, it's a low country bowl. I got crab, I got a sausage, I got corn on the carb, potatoes, all you bummed getting it. They sound like gumbo to me.

Yeah, I'm giving it to them. So pull up a table, because I'm about to make a mess all of you. Oh, man. Yeah. Oh, hey, take this out. Did you see Taylor Swift in a Britney Mahomes handshake? Yeah, I saw the little... It was cool.

They need a little choreography. I don't like that. Yeah, I don't see. I think that's something you need probably be... Now, now, Taylor, you're an entertainer. Great at what you do. You rehearse the move. You just don't come.

out, you didn't come to SoFi and have them four shoulder out, four, sold out shows, five sold out show, and just got up there wing it. You got it. You're like, hey, Brett, check this out. I'm coming over. This is what we're going to do. If Patrick throws a touchdown, this is what we're going to do. If Travis catches a touchdown, this is what we're going to do. This is how we're going to hit them up. You can't get there and get there like,

okay, what, but you know, Britain is not the entertainer that Taylor is, so she probably like, damn. What does she say? Do we slap hands first and then chest bump, or do we slap? grab hands, you know, spin around, click our heels, and then she forgot it's in the old, F it, let's go. They got to work on something. They got to work on something.

Because you know you got the eyes on you already. Yes. Yeah. If Travis Kelsey scores, if Patrick Mahom does something, the cameras are going to be on you, so you got to be on point. You got to be on point. You got to steal the show.

You got to be almost like. Every moment counts. Yeah. You almost got to be like LeBron, because LeBron got a different handshake for every teammate. Everybody. Everybody.

Him and AD got one, this one got one, the coach got one, the trainers got one, the photo got one. You know the funny thing about it? When I see LeBron do the handshake

to everybody, every fucking handshake is different and they never mess up. Yes. They never messed up. Yeah. But see,

LeBron is so, he's so disciplined and he's so like, I got to get it right. Oh, they practice that every single day. Yeah. Oh, they don't,

they get to, oh, do. You know, when you see all the guys they're doing this and when Dame doing it, hey, you're rehearsing that. Because in college, me and the other receiver, I wore number two, he wore number three. And we had, you know, we had our

thing that every time we scored, which was a bunch, I scored a lot. Right, right. You know, back then, you know, there it is. You know, I'm saying, don't know, there's it. Again, another one, like DJ Callie before Callie and another one. Yeah, yeah, he kept

coming. Yeah, for sure. But you had a handshake celebration with a teammate? I don't know. I ain't had no handshake celebration. You know, I did all kind of using props and all kinds of stuff. I ain't have no business doing. So I pissed the NFL off and I'm okay with that. If I could do it again, I do the same stuff all over.

I think, you know, I was like, man, I'm going to get the fan. I think I threw a ball up in the stands. And I got, they called me $2,500. I say, $2,500 for $100 football. I said, hell no, I pass out $25 with these thing. I ain't throwing no one for the stands. Yeah, listen. You got to think, if you throw a football in stands and let's say it hits a fan.

Yeah. You actually come back in suit. You know that, right? Yeah. Yeah. And that's what they're concerned about liability, people fighting for the ball and somebody get hurt. So I get it. I get the principle of the matter that, look, I understand.

We want you to get the fans and the fans love that keeps a, because this is an actual ball that Shannon Sharp or Ocho Sinko or somebody actually scored, scored a touchdown, or they got a pick, recover the fumble, they did something special. And I have this. This is something that I'm going to have for the rest of my life. So I get what the NFL is trying to do. Ocho, did you know this? We got 21,000 people watching us live as we

speak. 21,000. Right now? Right now. Boy, you bullshit. Man. I ain't never had 21,000 people watching me at one point ever in life. What about the games? What about the games do with that? I mean, Cincinnati, y'all

had like 15,000 fans. I sold out stadium. I made sure I stayed them were sold out every time. Don't do me like that. Even we were losing, I made sure our stadium was sold out because if you were paying a ticket to come see entertainment, that's exactly what you are on. But 21,000 people, like this is camera. Hey, if y'all can see me, I love y'all. Can you all see you? Can they see you? Are they can see me? Yeah. I love y'all. They see all 40. All 40 T you got showing.

What would they do, twin? I love y'all. I thank y'all if you can see me. Hey, call me if you need me. My number's still the same. 786, 628, 8, 8520. That's how much I love y'all. If y'all ever need anything, man, holl at me.

I'm here for you. I might say no. Y'all best right to call that number and wake somebody up there sleeping and they're going to cuss your ass out. That was real second phone number. Real, you got that? While we all love watching our favorite teams on television,

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So listen to Point Game on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you. you get your podcasts. Ocho, let me ask you this, Ocho. We're a little late on this, but there's a woman that recorded herself refusing to get out of a car because her date took it to the cheesecake factory. Oh, what's wrong with cheesecake? She said, it's a chain. So is Mastroes.

So is Delphreisco's. So is, what's the, what's that other one? Catch. Catch L.A. That's a chain. Wally's is a chain Ruth Chris is a chain Joe's Crab Shat

is a chain So let me ask you a question Have you ever had a situation What would you do? This Ocho, you drive up, you pull up And she's like, okay, hey baby, we're here Or you meet Because until I got to L.A.

Ocho, I had never I had never not gone. I don't know if I could use double negative But I have always gone to the ladies Home to pick her up Or to her apartment or picked her up from my parents' house. I've never, like,

and when I got the L.A., it's like, okay, I'll just meet you. I was like, and now, you know, it's Donald him, okay, you know, hey,

they don't know me like that, so it's cool. But before I got to L.A., I would always go pick the young lady up. So now, you get to the state, whether you pick her up or you meet her there,

and she's, and she gets there, and she's like, well, I ain't getting out because this here, this is beneath me. Yeah,

for one, that is a woman that is really not interested in you in general. Yeah, for sure. That's just a woman not interested in you in general. And most of the time obviously it's the era that we're in

right now. Men are being, I don't want to say use for food, but if you have to go to these high-end restaurants first dates to prove that you... Everybody ain't got it like... Ocho, everybody ain't making seven pictures. Everybody ain't got it like that to go drop $300 on a meal.

Damn. It makes no sense. If you got to leave with money, if you have to leave if you have to lead with money, if you have to leave with money, you already know what time. You already know what the place. You already know what the place. It's ridiculous at this point.

If I got, first of all, I'm a firm believer in this, Ocho, if I got to borrow my brother's car, if I got a bar in a homeboy car, if I got a barred money to take somebody on the date,

they're not for me. They're not for me because all I can do is this is a one, this is a singular act. Because I'm not going to borrow money every time to take you somewhere. I'm not going to borrow my brothers or my homeboy's car

to take you somewhere. Man, Ocho, man, look it. Ocho, I don't even want to tell you this story, Ocho. I don't even want to tell you the story, what happened to me, Ocho. You got to give it to me. This was the 1990. I met this young lady.

And she's, so, and she's like, we're going to go out. I was like, okay. Now, Ocho, imagine, I'm only making $63. I got a $3.35, $4-door blazer payment. I think my rent at Mill Pond in Denver, I think it was about $5.50.

plus, you know, I got to, you know, take, you know, take care of my sending money home for my grandmother, my sister. I'm helping my girlfriend who's going to school. I'm helping her. I'm paying for her to go to school. So I ain't got a whole lot of money, but you know what? I say, you know what I'm going to do? I'm going to deny myself something to get her nice, nice little meal, you know, get a nice little meal. So we get there.

And so, you know, I'm going to order something, but I'm not going to get what I would normally get. But I'm going to get something a little down just in case she goes up. So we get there And so, you know, we get a little appetizer. I think back then I was in the Caesar salad. I had never had a really had Caesar salad. So I got me a little Caesar salad. You know, I got to order the Caesar.

She got something. And so the server comes back, said, you know, okay, you ready to order? I'm like, yeah. So I got, I think, I think I got something probably comes like $30, 40. And so, Ocho, she got the menu and she just looking. I'm like, well, damn, what's she going to order?

I say, you're going to go. go ahead, you're order something? She'd say, I'm trying to figure out what go with lobster. I say, condoms. I say, because if you order that, we're going to have sex tonight. Needless to say,

needless to say, she didn't order that, and I never saw her again. I put that on everything, Ocho. See, Ocho, you bad, you get me on here, Ocho. I get on here with you,

And you have me be telling a story, man. I was supposed to take this to my grave, man. He's talking about she tried to figure out what go with lobster. Condoms. Hey, we'll go with lobster again. Condoms. Because we haven't said if you order that loft. I ain't got bread like that, Ocho.

I can see if I was making, if I came in, I'm a first round or second round draft pick. Because back then the first round draft pick got like a million dollars signing bonus. Ocho, I came in. They gave me like $22,500. Okay, you got to make that stretch, man. Yeah. And so when they take the taxes out of it, that ain't a whole lot of money.

Right, right. So check this out, Ocho. When I got my signing bonus, I sent it to my brother. I ain't open a checking account. I ain't open. I sent it to my brother. He said, hey, when you get your money, I say, hey, send it to him. And so at this point in time, I got to go.

I got to get a car. And they said, Ocho. and they said, man, you need a SUV. See, back then, I ain't know where SUV was. You got a car or you had a truck. That's what it was. There wasn't no SUV.

You got a car or you got a truck. So I'm like, I'm playing it off like I know what they're talking about. I said, so I called him. I said, Spank. That's what I called me. That's my brother. That's a nickname Spanky. I say, man, they said, I need an SUV.

What's the SUV? He said, that's a sports utility vehicle. I said, what's that? He'd say, man, it's like a blazer. It's like a Bronco. I said, oh, oh, okay, okay. So I go to, I go to the Chevy dealer. Dealership, he said, go tomorrow because what happened was a teammate of mine had made me late.

Right. I had never been late. You can't rely on that. You can't rely on him. Because he was trying to do something. And so, man, I called my brother. I was kind of like, I was like, man, I'm a seventh-round draft pick. So, you know, I ain't got no margin for ever, Ocho.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I called my brother. I said, man, I said, bro, I think I was. I think I messed up. He said, what happened? I said, man, you know, I've been catching a ride to him from training camp. And the guy, you know, we were late. And Coach Reeves, Coach Reeves, ring me.

Coach Reeves said, I told you. He says, don't cut yourself. Let me do that. Being late, not knowing your assignments is how you cut yourself. So he said, when you get back to Denver, because this was like, like the last, like the last couple of days before training camp, you know, training camp breaks,

he says as soon as you get back, the moment you get free time, you take your butt and you go get you, you go. And so I go, I try to get it. Credit bad. Ah, credit, oh, Cho. Hey, what was your credit score?

Man said he needed a crane out back to pull my credit score up. That's how low it was, Ocho. How low was your credit score back then? Who, who you think. Just in the fives? Probably about, four and a quarter.

God damn. Man, let me tell you what happened, man. Man, you know how Ocho, you know you in college and they see them little credit card application. I had my four gas cards. I had belt, J.C. Penny, Sears and Robo. Man, about self-creda-cars. Listen, listen.

My mama, man, bless her hard, man, rest and peace. Man, I had a wash and dry in my name and I didn't even know it. I ain't found out when I was a little baby I had a wash of his ride and I had all my name so you know what I go to the lead I give all the credit cards to my sister right

she doesn't charge the credit cards don't tell me and then cut them up I say cut them up they're going to do that and the people still want their money yeah man that thing I'm going by my credit so low so now I'm in the NFL and I got to get a co-signor

Hmm. Yeah, you got to, you got to fix that credit, man. That take long, too. D. Listen, that's a game. It's a game in itself. Yeah. A game of discipline.

Yes. That's all it is. Yeah. But I work my way up out of that thing. I work my way out of that. But y'all, ladies, I did look, I understand that you want to be treated nice, but everybody ain't making bread like no professional athlete. Everybody ain't got no six or no seven-figure jobs.

Some of these dudes making $75,000. sending $5,000 to a dude, and after taxes, he can't be breaking bread on no $500 meal. And this is the funny thing. This is the funny thing. It's a tough situation because there will always be men willing. Women will always be able to get who and what they want, but it might be from the guy they want

because they will always be a man willing to spend the money based on what it is that women want because they will always be a guy willing to do it. Yeah. But he's trying to impress him to Ocho. Always, always try to impress him. The more money you have, the easier it is to get to your end goal. That's just life. This is where it is.

But I tell dudes all the time. Dude, stay within your salary cap and act your wage. Yeah. Stay within your salary cap and act your wage. What's for you will be there. And as your money continues to grow and it gets higher and higher, the caliber of women you want to choose, it gets higher as well. But the yellow rule of thumb is Ocho.

At the end of the day, it's all pink on the inside. It's all pink on inside. I hope you're talking about a steak. But anyway. Yeah, I would talk about a steak. We talk about high-em-off. I'm right there with you. So the thing is, Ocho,

choose the woman that likes you, not the woman you like. If you choose the woman that likes you, you'll be straight. That's a good one. That's a good one. If you got to leave with money, she don't like you.

Yeah. She doesn't like you. If you got to leave with money. And if she says, if you got to apply pressure, she don't like you. Don't fall. Don't fall for that bullshit.

And any time, if you tell me, I don't need your money, I make my own money, I'm going another way. I don't heard that lie too many times to be true. Too many, too many.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Don't do me like that. But this is a good thing, this is a good thing for women, though. Women will never go without because they will always be a man willing. Always. Yeah.

Always. Yeah. Always. But I could, like I said, I don't mind, but at the end of the day, like I said, I didn't have,

and you know what, if I was making money like I was my fourth or fifth year, and she wanted to get the life to hell, baby, get two, take one home. Yeah. But I didn't have no bread like that. At that point in time, my focus was, okay, pay my bills, help my grandmother, you know, my mom working, but I still got to break up. So when I get back, and the cell phone, see, that before, Ocho,

the cell phone was probably about $4 a minute. And if you left the city, it started roaming. Yeah, yeah. Man, Ocho. That Roman charge. Man, man, I had a cell phone bill, $1,200 one time. Back then?

Back then. Ah, damn. My brother called me and said, turn it off. Turn it off. Because back then, Ocho, if you waited after, I think it was after 7 o'clock,

the minutes were free. Right. And then on weekend, minutes were free. But, man, who the hell going to wait until after 7 o'clock to talk to somebody? Or wait today?

Friday night, Saturday night, Sunday. I want to talk when I wanted to talk. But I had to get up off that thing. Let's get back into the football. Lamar Jackson had a tremendous day. 21 of 27, 357, three passing touchdowns, one rushing touchdown.

Lamar and his Raven fans had a lot to have a lot to say to me today talking about I don't give him the praise. Ocho, can you tell the people that's watching all 21,000, that the NFL is a week to week? Is that?

Listen, I, I say, I say it all the time. Lamar has been okay. And remember, I just said it not long ago, Lamar was due for a big day. Yes. I just said that. Lamar is due for a big day.

He had game for, you know, 220, 219, 2.30, but he was due for a day like the day, and oh, my goodness, did he have a day? And it is week to week. It's just the funny thing about the NFL.

It's just not to get off topic, but look today. Damn Patriots upsetting the bills. Who would have thought of that? Right. Who would have thought of that? Or, I mean, I'm just stay. I'm stay in context what we're talking about in Lamar.

You get games like this and you want to see and repeat the performance from today next week. And it might not be the same. It just to the business. And I just can't explain why it goes like this. It's up and down. But when you can find that happy medium, where you can be consistent offensively, whether it's running the ball, whether it's RPO, whether it's play action, consistently each weekend and week out, that is when you know you're in the conversation.

for NBP. But after today's performance, he has to be in it. He has to be in the... But Ocho, what I noticed about the Ravens, last week when Lamar Jackson went one for six in the red zone, it was a team game. They go five or six today. It's Lamar. I criticize

his inability to get the ball into the end zone in the red zone. I said, what about the turnovers? Today, he was the better in both. I said, you guys want me to praise Lamar or any other player that you guys like, even when they don't play well. That's out how it works.

It doesn't work. If you don't play well, I cannot in good conscience, trot my ass up there, sit in front of that camera and say, oh, man, he played well when he didn't. I said, but when I criticize

Peyton Manning and Brady and Rogers and Big Ben and Drew Breeze and Romo in Rivers and Ryan, I say, ain't none of y'all rustled at rescue. I say, y'all sit y'all cry freedom ass down

because I know where y'all trying to go with this. Y'all trying to say, oh, he's from the community. No, no, no, no. And I appreciate what Lamar does in his community. But at the end of the day, my job is to evaluate week-to-week play. If a guy plays well, Ocho, I'm going to say he plays well. And if I said, I didn't think you was going to play well and he plays well, I said, I was wrong.

Oh, boy, bawled out. Give him his flowers. But, guys, I'm the wrong guy to listen to or to what. watch if you think I'm going to let bad play go unchecked. That's not going to happen. And you know what? There was no bad play today. No.

Deserves his flowers. And what I really love about Lamar and his match racing at the quarterback position is the fact that I'm going back to where before he was drafted, oh, you should try out for running back. Oh, you should try out and play receiver. And what I was... The man won the Heisman trophy as a quarterback. Exactly.

So, somebody's throwing the ball. Yeah. What I saw from tomorrow today and being a pure pocket passer dropping back, scanning through progressions, if it's not there, checking it down, if it is there, nine different Ravens receivers caught a ball today against the Lions. Not just any, this ain't the same old Lions team. The 5-1, Dan Campbell-led Lions that's playing hell of a good football on both sides of the ball. And they made them look like, you know what, I can't say it.

They do it. I can't hurt. man, Lamar has been light side against NFC teams. He's 16 and 1 against NFC team. So if you're an NFC team and the Ravens on your schedule and Lamar Jackson's player,

oh, y'all probably go, there's a 90% chance y'all going to catch the hell. I have a question. Yeah. And so it's safe to say the AFC North is the tough division in football. Can I, can I say that? Is it okay for me to say that or no?

Yeah. Mm-hmm. Thank you. Yeah. It didn't start out that way because everybody was kind of like, you know, the Bingas was, was treading,

but you look at what Cleveland did, go on the road and get a win. You look at the Steelers, and I was watching that game and so far it looked like a Steelers home game. They come out here to SoFi and beat the Rams. The Ravens do a demolition job on Detroit. One of the best teams, one of the better teams. They're a top five team in the league.

I had them in my power rankings, and then your Bingels were on a buy week. But yeah, I think it's very safe to say. And just think, had the Ravens taking care of business, against the Steelers, how big of a lead? Because they had already beaten Cleveland. They had already beaten Cincinnati. Now you beat, so now you're three in a division.

Now somebody got, so when you beat a team in your division, that's like two games. Yeah. Oh, yeah. So Lamar, Raymond's, congratulations. You guys played really well today. Now, if y'all can bottle that up and package that up, the way the defense got after Jared golf and the way Lamar played and you ran the football with Edwards and Hill. And Lamar, look, Lamar is going to.

of sprinkling little runs here and there. But in order to take that next step, in order for the Ravens to get to where they want to get to, Lamar's going to have to have, and I'm not saying, you know, 21 or 27, 3, this, and that. But he's going to have to become more efficient at throwing the football and taking care of the football. At the end of the day, the further you go along, Ocho,

you start paying double for turnovers. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I mean, but if there's a measuring stick for Lamar in a measuring stick or a gauge on. where you want to be in the realm of when it comes the passing, today was a perfect. That's a perfect metric to measure 21 for 27 to, what, 357?

Yes. You're not going to throw it for 357 every week. No. But only six incompletions? And that's almost unheard of. Oh, Joe, you know what happens. Once you win the MVP, that's the standard in which you're critiqued by.

You are no longer a regular quarterback. Don't be talking about, oh, Dak. Don't be talking about Calamur. Don't be talking about Justin Herbert. No, no, no, no. You're an MVP. How many other quarterbacks are currently playing that are MVP? I can only think of one.

My homeboy. Yeah. All the rest of what Rogers is on our arm. But he's the only one. Yeah. Tom Brady is retired. So basically it's Rogers, it's my home boy and Lamar Jackson that can say that they've been MVP's.

Yeah. So that's the standard in which Lamar has to be judged by. You can't say I'm a college. I got these advanced degrees, and you want me to judge you like you a high school, a senior in high school. It doesn't work like that, Ocho. Cho. You're right.

You're right. Bill Belichick joins Coach Don Shuler, coach George Hallis, and the 300 win club. Coach Belichick became just the third coach at NFL history to earn 300 regular season wins, joining Papa Bear, Coach George Hallis, and the all-time win leader, Coach Don Shuler. Before the season started,

Coach Belichick signed a secret contract extension. What are your thoughts, Coachell? I mean, listen, I mean, he's worthy of a contract extension. But normally when we think about contracts, especially when it comes to players, is it based on what you've done in the past or is it based on what you're going to do in the future? That's what they tell us, the future.

Yeah, TEL us to future. Well, obviously, you know, I think with Bill Belichick, It's kind of he gets a little, a little bit of, what's the word I'm looking for? Grace. Yeah, it gets a little bit of grace. Obviously, what he's been able to do for that organization for that city, for the Patriots in general? Where was Tom Brady's grace?

Tom Brady got 20 years worth of grace, no? How many years did the coach Belichick get? He got 20 years worth of grace as well. But obviously the years that Belichick has put into this game, what you put into it is what you get out of it. So I think he's well deserving of a contract extension. So Tom Brady, what, Tom Brady wasn't deserving of a contract extension?

Yeah, he got a bunch of them. No, he didn't. Your tenure. No, no, no, no. He took less. Think about that. Think about that. So, hold on.

Guys, anybody that's listening to Ocho and I, you see, Tom Brady took less money. And at the end of the day, what do they do? Still showed him the door. Wait, wait, wait, wait, let's understand. Tom took less money because he understood in order for them to reach the common goal that they all had at the beginning was to be able to put the pieces around him defensively and offensively

to get those six rings that he had. Coach Velacek took less money. That's why he took less money. But you notice it's always the billionaires. So let me ask you a question. How many discounts you think the NFL gave ESPN, Fox, CBS, and NBC and Amazon to broadcast these games? Did they give them a discount?

So you know what? CBS, you've been our loyal partner for over 60 years. Fox, you came on in 1994. NBC, you've been our loyal, loyal partner. You too. Thank you for coming aboard,

playing two million years. So when do, if you notice, they never passed. So is the tickets discounted? Is the cold? Is the beer cheaper? No, it's different, though.

It's different. What we talk about. I mean, you talk about that. Those are two different, totally dynamics all together. We talk about a team game, and we talk about entities where the bottom line is strictly about the dollar. I'm team Shannon. You team Ocho. You know, I got my team, I got milder for you. I got a little bird of their home. Right. And I need to drop something in there. Right, right, right, right. Me to give you a pay cut, I ain't going to be able to give them. You know what they're saying. Tom Brady's always been in a position with what he has going on outside of the game. He's with whatever he doesn't, let's say he does take a pay cut.

guess who is on his hip that makes up for whatever he's not making. Because, I mean, Tom is one of the few people in the world that was dealing with a woman that makes 10 times more than him. So, okay, I'm taking a pickup, but that's okay because I have this individual at home who make 10 times more than I do, which is a very fortunate situation. Let me ask you a question. Guess what happens to be in a situation like that right now as well?

In NFL history, in 100-year NFL history, how many men have dated a woman that made more than them? In the history of the NFL, I'm going back 100. So since 1919, they started playing football in the 1990, the Acme Packers and the Canton Bulldogs. This is different, though. This ain't just making more. This is making 10 times more than that. Okay.

Again, let me rephrase in the history and the 105 year history. It never happened. So you want everybody to take a pay cut like Tom? No, I didn't say that. I said he was able to and was comfortable taking one because of the situation, the fortune situation that he was in. Yes. Ocho, we got 24,000 people watching us live right now.

Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. People coming from. They're coming. They come for the football and they stay for the stories. Yeah. Not when they come for, they come for the football and they stay for the story. The stories where it's at. Yeah.

We're giving people life lessons. We let them know like, okay. of the things like we share with you is that so some of you guys out there won't make the same mistakes that we made. I've made my, and that's kind of a lot of times when I'm talking to these guys,

I said, I'm not telling you something somebody told me. I'm talking from experience. A wise man learns from others' mistakes. A fool will learn from its own. Yeah. That you can learn. You can say, okay, that's a lesson learned. Right. But what if I can save you

from having to learn that lesson? And you just go ahead, go smooth through. Yeah, and the easy part is it, for those that are watching when it comes to learning lessons, learning lessons, and hearing it from others that have already been through and experience it, it's all about applying it. Yes, it's all about applying it.

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We was in Vegas. We went to the Usher concert on Friday night. Wait, I went Thursday night. I went with real. Yeah. That thing lit. Yeah, he lit. The 45 minutes before the concert is actually a concert.

Right, right, right. Oh, man, the DJ had that thing so lit. So we went to Usher on Friday. And then Saturday night we went to Adele. Adele got a residency too? Yeah, she at the, she at Caesars at the Coliseum. Baby. Ocho.

Why ain't take me to see Adele? Ocho. Man, how was Adele? Look here. She came out there with that black dress. Yeah. She introduced the piano player. Yeah.

Hello. Hey. It's me. What? What I love about her, she's unapologetically her. She ain't got no heels on. She come out there with that black dress.

She come out there with no shoes, stock it, and give you a two hours of work. Hey, listen, Adele can sing, man. Adele, Adele, Adele can sing. I'm a fan of hers. You know, you know what? Baby, guess when I go back to Vegas? Oh, I would definitely see her again.

I got to go back to Vegas Wednesday. I got to be there for four days, right? I got to do some work out there. I'm going to see, baby. Can you get tickets to see Adele? Can you hear me? Okay, okay. Appreciate that.

Ocho. I'll go here. This is my second time seeing her. I saw her first concert. She hadn't performed in a while. You seen her twice? Yeah, she was at the, when she first came back, this was like during the pandemic, like right after like 21.

and she was at the observatory. She did a, and so a lot of the big, a lot of the big people there, I ain't going to name drop who was there. And I heard her. And just to hear, I can just imagine, because I'm old enough to remember Prime Whitney.

I'm old enough to remember Prime Mariah. I'm old enough, you know, I, and man, that woman's voice is, man, God bless, look. You just, you just said Whitney. You ever seen Whitney live?

I've never seen Whitney live. I've never seen Whitney live. I've never heard a voice. I've never heard a voice. Let me tell you, since we're on the topic of singing, let me tell you my top five when it comes to singing. Tell me if I know what I'm talking about now. I got Whitney number one.

Okay. About pure, range, opt-ups, and take you here and take you there. Yeah, yeah. Take you west. Yes. We can go north and we can go south. That's Whitney.

Mm-hmm. Got Mariah. Okay. Stay with me at home now. Christina Aguilera. I'm talking about range now. You got range now. You got range now.

Kiki Wyatt. Okay. I'm taking you to church. Stay with me. I'm taking you to church. Jennifer Hudson. Okay. Fantasia.

Yeah. Okay. I tell you what. You're going to rearrange your list once you hear I hear Dale. And I'm going to tell you. She's in there somewhere. I've never seen a lot. So everybody I just named.

I've seen live and know what they can do. Because they come into the party. I haven't seen her live. Right. But Tina Marie, she's five. What do you know about Tina Marie, man? Stop playing. I won't see.

You got to realize when Tina Marie was at an apex, I was a kid. Oh, man. But you got to hear Adele. Yeah. Me telling you, sometimes me telling a story doesn't do it justice. No. You got to hear this woman sing. And man, when she won't.

And look here. When she walked to the edge of that stage, and she set her ass on those steps, and she picked that mic up. She hit a note last night. She said, uh-uh, uh-uh. She stopped it. She's like, I was, hey, she's like, I'm damn, I'm out of breath.

And she called, and she called for it back. Right. Crazy, huh? See. Listen, I'm, I'm going to take you to church real quick. Because, you know, I'm, are you in the gospel? Like, I'm talking about, in the gospel. Yeah.

You ever heard Leandria Johnson? Leandri Johnson or Lashon Pace sing? Oh, man. See, I grew up, when the church, when you say church, I grew up with Shirley Seasor. Oh, I'm Shirley Sears. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Come on that door to Norwood.

Listen, well, we can go to church in here. Don't do me like that. But singers that I've heard and I haven't seen them. Right. Whitney, Mariah, Aretha, Adele, Pina Marie. Man, they, you know, and it, they, it's different.

Oh, oh. They different. Patty Meals. Oh, no, Stephanie Meals. Stephanie. Stephanie, Stephanie. Stephanie. Stephanie, go.

That's a good one. That's a good one. That's a good one. And you know what? I can't, but you know what? I can't leave his patty out. Yeah, oh, you know who I can't leave out?

You know who I can't leave out? And she gets labeled more of an entertainer than a singer. Yeah. Beyonce got chords. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Listen, Beyonce is what I call one of the few.

She's a unicorn. The whole package and is a unicorn. That is the closest to me. No decision to any other entertainers that we're going to get to Michael Jackson. Am I wrong? Am I wrong? Am I wrong?

Hey, did you see that? Did you see that? Who you saw Thursday night? Orcia. Usher got skills. Oh, yeah. Usher got skills, man. Usher, Chris Brown, Beyonce,

wait a minute, I got one more for you. Who that? You ever seen Bruno Mars? Yes. Man, Bruno, by Bruno. Bruno liked that. You talk about stage presence? Yeah.

I think it's half the battle. Forget knowing how to sing. Forget knowing how to sing. Stage present. Being able to engage with the fans and, and become one with them, that's a gift. Yeah.

That's a gift. And that's something Bruno Marys. has. I need that. So I was a, uh, uh, I was very fortunate, uh, John Tau Austin, who's, uh, whose Usher's right hand man took care of my daughter, you know, he took care of me and my daughter. So they had a friends and family lounge. So afterwards, you know, uh, Jessica Alba, Riza, Nas, everybody, a lot of the dancers, uh, the performance that's on stage with Uster had started to come in. So I got an opportunity to talk with them, but man, yeah, I might have to go us again. Yeah. Hey, listen.

Because it's been a while. The performance was phenomenal. The music, some of the stuff I hadn't heard in so many years. Oh, yeah. Oh, the band, the pianist, the dancers. Oh, yeah. The stripper. Everything is like,

my eyes are all over the place. Then the skating, the skating segment. Oh, the skate, that's unbelievable. Oh, but they're going to do it. Hey, the one with the long legs with the short red crop hair? Yeah. I met her, me and A little man, her. She came in a loud.

Wait a minute. What about the one? I don't want to get in trouble. Don't worry about it. I know that's what you're talking about. I'll let that go. I'm letting go. But listen, Usher, phenomenal.

If people, for those that are watching, if you haven't had a chance to see Usher, you got to go see that. Listen, I'm looking forward to going to see. Wait, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. How much the Medell tickets cost? I don't even know. Oh.

I don't even know. It ain't, for me, like I said, but see, here's the thing. Am I in the chat? Somebody in the chat. Please tell me how much the deal ticket It all depends on where you want to sit I want to, I got to put my have my baby in the front

Okay then you're gonna look you're gonna pay some you gonna pay a Hey, you gotta pay what? Some bands You gonna have to pay some fam you, the marching bands Nah, nah, nah, we ain't gonna do that If anybody ain't have, I got, you know, I'm gonna call Rich Paul Don't worry about it I'm gonna call Rich, don't worry about it

You know what, Ocho, I used to do that But you know, that man, that man look here That woman is in business It's like, that would be like, that would be like you, you got a clothing line. And everybody hits you up, hey, can I get this for free, my homeboy? It ain't, it's not really everybody. It's not, it's not really, you know what, okay, baby. Hello.

Ocho. Ain't that much tied in the world, man. Ocho, even with, even with LeBron, right. I don't, I pay for it. If I get shoes, I pay for them. If I get a jersey, I pay for it. Now, he did gift me a jersey and he autographed it for me. but most of the stuff, all the stuff that I get, I pay for it.

So you just, I mean, I pay for stuff too. I pay taxes. No. Because the way I look at, the way I look at it, if I'm going to take my ass and buy LV and Dior and all that other stuff. I don't do that. See, that's the difference. I'm going to do it. I'm always looking for the deal.

I'm always looking for the loophole. I'm trying to save, you know, so if I can find a loophole or a way I can actually get in there to, To have my baby see Adele. Actually, I want to see Adele anyway because I love, I love music. I love singers. Actually, she signed a card for my daughter. Wish my daughter happy birthday. Yep, gave her some swag.

She signed a book for me. You can tell me, man. Just tell me how much thing is are, man. Come on, man. I don't know because my assistant handled it. Okay. Well, you know you ain't let her charge your car without telling you? Yes, I do.

Yeah. Yeah, see, you got that, you got that fucking money. So anytime you just go ahead and talk, they ain't got it running by you, that's, see, that's a different. But here's the thing, but, Ocho, the thing is with me is that my team, they know I don't really spend money like that. So when they say, I don't, I don't, I don't spend money on anything. I spend money and taking care of everybody else.

I don't really do anything for me. Oh. I do stuff for everybody else. So I was like, I saw you flying private eating Popeyes. What's that? Yeah. No, I ain't handled Papa. I can't remember last time I had Popeyes.

I can't even tell you what Popeyes is around here. There ain't no Popeye's around here. Whatever you was eating, I saw you on a private chair. Yeah, that's what I do. For what it calls, they should have stopped by Mastroles. For what it costs. But no, I think the thing is for me at this juncture of my life, that I'm going to spend like Adele or an Usher or somebody that I want to see.

Right. And that's my thing. I've always liked together. I mean, when I was in Atlanta, there's this place called Chastain. And it's what you can, you know, you can eat. And it's like, you know, they're performing. And you can eat, you know, drink.

You could get a table. And I would, you know, me and my friends, we would go. And, man, you know, you see earthwind and fire. You see a seal or you see, you know, Indiaree, or you see Jill Scott. And you're like, okay, this is what I like. This is what I like to do. You know what?

When I want to think about it, too, I'm into musicals. I'm into Broadway. I'm into dance. I'm into the theater. I'm into the arts. A lot of people wouldn't know that about me. And one of my favorite things to do where I will spend money, regardless of price,

and regardless of where they're playing, is please tell me, please tell me you know about Alvin Ali, Alvin Ali dance theater. Yeah, the dance studio. Yeah, black, yeah, renowned, yeah. Judah Jameson and my guy, Robert Battle, I'm sure this will probably get back to them.

I can't wait until you guys get back on tour. So I can some, you got to see Revelations. You got to see Revelations. And a dream of mine. A dream of mine is to dance revelations and to have one of the solos and maybe in wade in the water or rock of my soul.

I just, I want to dance. I love, you know, I did ballet. I did ballet when I was doing, during football, in the offseason during football season to help me with balance. And something about ballet, I'll go see. I mean, your feet already are in a PLA, so you're straight.

Yeah, yeah. Let me see. Dance. You know what else I pay for? that me in the midst we never miss until the pandemic hit. Andrea Bacheli. Yeah.

Oh, okay. Every time. Every time Mother's Day weekend. But you like opera, huh? Man, listen. Never miss it. Never miss it. And people always see me at places like that.

I'd be like, man, what the hell are you doing here? I mean, this is what I really like. People just don't know that side of me. Yeah, I'm a, I'm a concert guy. I like concerts. I've never been a concert guy. Kanye, I mean, I've been to Kanye West, one of his concerts.

because I like, you don't know what to expect as far from our arts perspective. And, and, um... And that's the thing with Audelaos, the visual. The visual. Yeah, Kanye visuals. What's the one with the spaceship? Yeah, the concert with the spaceship. It looked like a crazy space.

I remember exactly what you're talking about. Yeah. Oh, that was crazy. Benad, the light just, just, dude, that's, that's one of the best. And outside of that, that usher concert, that was my first time being at another one. Yeah. And the thing was, I really enjoyed it. I really enjoyed it.

The first concert my daughter ever went to was Usher. So here we are almost two decades later. Right. She goes to Usher again. And so that was like, okay. And to go, that was my first time taking it to a concert, her and I. And you know what I noticed? I mean, you know, I get frustrated sometime.

But the community, they love us, oh, Joe. Yeah. The way, the applause that I got and people want to, take pictures and the people want to shake my hand. Man, the love that I got at the Usher concert, the love that I get in the airports, the love that I get when I'm around

my people, right, right. It's never, if I had won 50 Super Bowls, I wouldn't get the kind of love that I get right now. I mean, it is unbelievable. So you know what? And I remember my daughter, my daughter was like, Daddy, is

she's like, your life is never going to be the same, is like, nah, baby, our life has changed. She's like, she's like, Daddy, these people really love you. I say,

they do, baby. I said they do. I said, and I said, from that point on, I'd say, you know what, that little criticism

when guys take their pot shots and they say all this stuff, I say, y'all two or three can't take away from the masses that showed me love when they see me

in person, and the love and the respect and the admiration that they show me. So what y'all talk about that bull job y'all on? I'm done with it. I ain't arguing, I ain't arguing with none of you.

I feel you, but I want to protect you on. You know, you're getting older. You know, you got, you know, your knees, you know, your hips bad. I don't want one of these young boys to see you in person, they jump on you, and I'm not there to save you. So I tell you what, I tell you what? I tell you what I did. I tell you one of the young boy jump on you now.

I can't, I can't. Let me tell you like this here. I can't stop somebody from jumping on me. Yes, sir. But if I can't get him up off me, leave him there. I bet I get him up off me. I bet I make him turn. Hey, I had, hey, Ocho, I had a dude.

I ain't going to tell you, Ocho. Dude told my man, I'm looking at you. Man, you ain't that big ought to grab you. I said, I bet I'll make you turn me loose. I bet you that. The grabbing the easy part. It's the holding that's a hard. Hey, hey, oh, don't let this young fella get a hold of you now.

I'm trying to say, I'm just making it show. I'm just, I don't want to make sure you good. Man, look here. The love and the respect that I saw about Usher concert. And man, look here, man. Like I said, I don't really get out like that, Ocho. I don't really get out.

I don't get out like that. I don't get out like that. The love you always been there. It's always been there. Well, I think over the last, over the last year, seeing me in this space. Right. And hearing me talk about certain issues.

And to hear, and in our community, unc is a term of endearment. It's someone that has knowledge of someone that's constantly trying to elevate his people, his family, his friends. And so for me, I take that term very serious. Right. Because people think that I live, I'm mature enough to pass along knowledge and information that will be useful to not only someone my age, but the younger generation.

So I appreciate that. Because when I grew up, the community police, if they saw you doing something wrong, it's like, hey, now, I ain't gonna tell you, I ain't gonna tell Ms. Mary, but you know you're not supposed to do that, right? I'm not gonna tell Mr. Barney. It was like, and if you, it was like, yes, ma'am, no, ma'am.

It was always, anybody, if you was doing wrong, and it was, it was like, it was a sign of respect. Yes, ma'am. Hey, hey, boy, you, you, are you, are you born and Mary grandson? Yes, ma'am.

Uh-huh. Okay. You know, now you know they wouldn't like that. Yes, ma'am. I ain't going to say that. But now, don't tell my kid this or don't talk to my kid like that. That's your problem. Yeah. Nobody gets to.

My grandma always say, boy, hey, if you don't want to listen, they got places that will make you listen. They'll tell you what time to get up, when to get up, what to eat, where to eat, and when to do what, everything else. Now, you can listen to me on the outside or you can listen to them on the inside. But you're going to listen. I'm trying to my grandma. You don't listen.

But people I know you guys that are. watching this, man, I really appreciate the love that you guys show me all the respect. Oh, let me tell you what happened, Ocho. I got to tell this story that we got to get to bed. I got to go to work in the morning. Man, Ocho, so we're in that little friends and family room. And so, you know, I kind of got, I'm like to the side. My daughter's standing in front of me, like, right there.

And I'm kind of like to the side. I'm kind of like talking to, I'm talking to Nas. And so, you know, he's talking like, hey, man, I appreciate what you do. Man, you're real yada, yada, yada. And this guy, see, this guy out of the peripheral, come up to talk to my daughter. You know, hey, it used to be a thing. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, what? Hey, my daughter, she's grown.

She's grown. She can have a little cell. And she said, it is not what she said, is how she said it. Yeah. She said, that's my daddy. It was like she said it away, leave me alone. I told you I wasn't interested.

Yeah, yeah. So now, you know me, I will, I wheel around. Yeah, what? I said, what's up, my man? Oh, yeah. how you do, you know, yada, yada, yada. But he could tell from my look. Right.

This ain't that. No. Yeah. No. Look. Yeah. Like, if probably, I don't, look, I said, my kids, my girls are very, they're not going, they're not going to talk to no guy in front of me.

Okay. Okay. She already said that, that's a side. I was like, hey, you're grown. She said, nah. She viewed that as disrespectful for a guy to try to talk to her in front of her dad. Right, right, right. Right, right.

Right. So I didn't, you know, hey, I don't, because you best believe, I'm gonna try to talk this. Hey, you look at right, you better believe. I'm gonna try to do your dad, your mom. Yeah.

You know, I'm gonna be respectful with it. Right. But, but, but, uh, but we had a great time. I thought you were going to put hands on you on. Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, no. Because, uh, nah, hell no. Like I said, you know, it was just like she wanted,

she didn't, because of where we were. She didn't know who he was. and so she wanted to be respectful also knowing because everybody that met her said, you look just, the first thing they say, they don't say, well, how are you doing? They say, you look just like your daddy. And so she wanted to be respectful with it

knowing that, okay, that's Shannon Sharp's daughter. So, but, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. The kids, I don't, I don't, I don't play like that. I play with, I play about a lot of things, but not them. Kids, I don't blame me, I don't blame me. I, I, I, I, that, that, that, That topic, man, that topic, that topic we talked about earlier, that young lady that didn't want to go to that chain restaurant.

I don't know what that's, so that's still sitting heavy on my heart. Yeah. Yeah. But what does she think? She thought, I guess she thought video in an Ocho, she was going to get people on those side to my, yeah, sister, make that man take you to this higher restaurant. That's all that. If that's all I got, so in other words, you're telling me, if I'm not, if I'm not worthy

of you like this. because one day one day I told everybody when I was growing up I said one day I said I'm gonna come back in a white Mercedes

and I'm gonna say see y'all didn't want old Shady yeah y'all didn't want the guy that had the part in his hair y'all didn't want the guy that didn't hang out y'all didn't want the guy

that didn't smoke weed that all he cared about was playing sports y'all didn't want him then oh but they're going to come a time you're gonna wish you had I won't sir

listen there there there are men out here that have set a precedent when it comes to courting, when it comes to taking women on nice, fancy dates. And once they set their precedent, then everyone else follows

as far as women and wanting that same Ocho. Everybody can't move like that. And you know what happens? All the men that are in position to do the fancy dates and the five-star stuff and putting you in the nice stuff

and they all dating the same women because all that it's only so many, it's only so many of those type of guys to choose from. They get in the pick of the litter because everybody chasing the same goddamn thing. Because most of the time, if you look at most of the athletes, they like the same type of woman.

And it's the same type of woman that's attracted to an athlete. So it is what it is. Everybody, everybody dating everybody. Everybody dating everybody. But I don't expect, I don't expect because one woman did this,

I automatically expect everybody to do that. No, you, you, you, you and your individual self. Be your best you. I'm not asking you to replace what I had. I'm asking you to be you. Because I hope you don't ask me to be what you, what you once had. Oh, my guy used to do this. So why you not still with him?

If he did so much, he took you all these exotic places, y'all was in ballet, y'all was in, and mecanos, and y'all was in all of the, was in Turks and Caicos and you were on jet skis and you were boat riding. So why are you with me right now on this day? Okay. Okay. Listen. Boy, it's thin out there right now, too, but, um, it's been out there, but.

It ain't, it ain't with you. Sometimes, some, some, some women, they, you know, they leaving good men thinking, thinking they're going to be. It's better. It is. It did that to us, Ocho. Social media did that does. It did it to us.

It did it to us. And we look at that like, oh, I bet I got, man, you know what I got? Man, I got this BMW. And you go out there trying to get a Bugatti. And little do you know that Bugatti, you got to put like $5,000 out with the gas. Every time you fill it up, the tires cost $22,000. The maintenance order every time you pop the hood is another $10,000. You know what?

It's rough. I think when you see what you got to compete with, it's rough. I can't compete with them. Everybody aiming for the same thing. Ocho. But here's the thing about LA. You might be competing with a rapper, an NBA player, an MLB player, a producer.

You don't know what you're up. At least when I was growing up, I knew what I was competing against. Another athlete. Right. You know, a regular guy wouldn't be able to beat my time because I had laid down a blistering time. You know, what the old people used to say.

Old black girl used to say all the time, yeah, somebody came in and beat his time. I said, great, can't nobody beat your baby time because your baby laid down a blistery time. Now you are here, you don't know what you up against. Yeah. Because everybody, look here, they drive range rovers out here like fords. So Doreen, you talk about old bad, I got the baddest whip.

Brough, I guarantee you, you're going to see four of them before you park your car. Yeah. Whatever car you got, you're about to see 10 of them. So you don't know what you're up again. And it's that guy that you think, man, who is that? He got major paper or he pretending, and she doesn't. don't know he's pretending, but it looked good. All you got to do is look to part.

That's half the battle. Oh, yeah, yeah. Look like you got it. That's it. That's it. That's half the battle, man. But listen, I love my, I love, I love my people. I just, we got, we got to, we got to stay within our financial lane. That's all you got to do. That's all I can do.

Stay in your financial lane. Understand where you at and act your wage. Ac your wage. W-A-G-E. You'll be fine. Hey, I'm still, I still, I still, I still spend like I'm on that 335 hour. When I was growing up with minimum wage with 335 with 337 an hour. Hey, what's minimum wage now?

Did it go up yet? I think 725. Man, shit. And we got, we got to, man, listen, that's why I need to be in office. They need somebody like me in office. They need somebody like me in an office because minimum wage wouldn't be like this. No. Oh, Ocho, I got another, I know, Ocho, check this out.

This lady got an Uber, and the lady wouldn't give her her stuff because she wouldn't give her a tip. You see what you started? No, whoa, whoa, whoa. The lady went and got $400 worth of groceries. If somebody bring me 400 worth of any goddamn thing, they're getting the goddamn tip. You, too, you know that. Now you know that. Oh, Ocho, Ocho, Ocho, Ocho, Ocho, Ocho, Ocho, oh, Ocho, you Uber.

Yeah. Okay. You Uber, right? Right. Right. Okay. Now, I'm not obligated, seek, because here's the thing. You can't remember now. You got to look through it through your, look through it through the person lens, not your lens. Now, me, when I leave the hotel, the people that's coming to clean my room, I leave money on the table. I said, hey, whoever cleans the room, that money on the dresser, that money on the table, that's yours.

I said, even that money's yours. Okay, I need you to do this for me. I need you to leave me some extra towers. I leave money for them. I leave in the morning. I leave money for them. That's me. That's the kindness of my heart. If, when you, hey, excuse me, ma'am, can you give me some ice? Sure. They go get the ice. I give them, you know, give them 30, 40 bucks.

It's like, thank you, thank you. Now, I know my room when I get back, my room will be spotless. I'm going to have extra towel. The bed going to be nice and neat. I'm going to have them two chocolates, even though I don't eat them. They're going to be at the side of the bed. They're going to need me some water. Okay.

I don't like feeling obligated. Right. Doing anything, Ocho. I'm going to do it out of the kindness of my heart. I don't like feeling obligated. That's not feeling obligated. If you know you have someone bringing you $400 worth of groceries, come on now.

It's about being decent. So how much is Uber? How much is Uber? They pay for Uber ride, right? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. But still, come on now.

I got a tip for you. Don't need egg salad and ride the bus. That's the tip I got for you. You got to do right by people, man. I do right. Oh, Joe. You just. I'm saying,

everybody can't tip like that old show? You, I just give something, not giving nothing at all. Come on, nah. You don't know what that lady had to go through.

You don't know what I had to go through to get these groceries. I about I had, I about to have that colored money. You know what that colored money is, right? Yeah. Okay, dear. But so you got somebody

to bring you $400 worth of grocery and you ain't tipping none? I'm talking about you. Oh, no, let me tell you what I did. There was an eyestorm back at 96. and I couldn't get out of the driveway, so I called a guy, and I said, you know, wait for me.

He's like, nah, I said, I tell you what? I said, you got to take my word for it. See if you will take my word for it. I said, wait here, and I get back. Let me go in this store, and I get, and when I come back, it'll be worth your weight. He was waiting right there. He was right down the street.

Probably took, we've probably gone 10 minutes. I gave $500. That's what I'm talking about. I had a situation when I was working at CBS. Yeah. I left my backpack with all my watches, all my money, all my cufflinks, and in the cab. So my assistant, my sister's calling, blah, blah, blah.

And the last person I had called was my homeboy bucket. So the guy went in my bag and saw the phone and he called Bucket. But I said, man, who this? Why are you calling me from my homeboy phone? and he was trying to explain to him and his broken English that I had left the phone in there but he ended up, man, I gave that man like $3,500.

I gave all the cash that I had. There are good people that there are good people. Yeah, for sure. And that is why, you know, that's why a lot of people ask me over the past 10, 15 years, everywhere I go, you already know how I tip. Like, I've been doing that for years. Everywhere I go, obviously,

because you know how the service industry is and just any industry for that matter that doesn't make a livable wage. I take pride in that. And I just got a call. I'm a quick little story. It is not much. But there's a restaurant that I frequent.

I only go to five places over and over in Miami. Five same restaurants. But Brimstone. You know about Brimstone, right? You heard of Brimstone? I have a. No. So Brimstone, a nice little restaurant in Pimba Gardens,

right in pines that I always frequent. I like, you know, I like to go to dinner there. And I love going there because they allowed me to smoke my cigar. They allowed me to smoke my cigar. and I get my little cafe going to let you and I get my same meal every single time and they took away smoking cigars. They took away smoking cigars for about maybe,

but maybe three, four months and I hadn't been back since. I hadn't been back since and then one of the waitresses, one of the waiters there, text me through DM and said, man, listen, you won't believe. Start next week,

you can finally come back and you can smoke your cigar and dude, I damn that cry. I damn that cry. It's not the fact that I could smoke my cigar it's the fact that I haven't been able to go to that place for four to three goddamn months and I know goddamn well

nobody that's been coming to their restaurant is leaving those blessings the way I was and that felt bad for me because I just couldn't go there without having my cigar so the fact that now I can go back to brimstone and enjoy a cigar I can get back to tipping those people the way they should be tip.

Well I like I probably better go to the same thing and when I get the waiter and it's like and I say the usual. I said okay Mr. Sharp. Yeah. I don't even got to say none. That's what I's what I loved and enjoy. enjoyed about going there. When they took that, that smoking away, man, on the patio, and

that, that hurt me. That hurt me bad. They hurt me bad. Guys, again, thank you for watching. We got to know over 24,000. Thanks for tuning in. It's 24,000 a year? Yeah, we have 24,000 in here. Make sure you click that subscribe button, tell your family and friends. Make sure you click it also.

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But... Basketball? Put your hand down. But anyway, I'm on, he's Ocho. This is nightcap. Thanks for tuning in. We really appreciate you guys.

Wait, where are you leaving? I got to go to work in the morning. But you got 24,000 people. Why would you leave them hanging? Because I got to go to work and they got to go to work too. They got to go to work. Listen, if you got 24,000 people watching this right now and they are willing to stay up

and they got to go to work, why would you leave them? Well, you can go. I'm going to stay home. Okay, you do that. Well, ladies and gentlemen, I'm signing off. This has been Nightcap. I'm your favorite uncle, Shannon Sharp. He's your favorite number 85.

And y'all stay with me. Y'all stay with me. We're going to talk. We're going to talk. I'm getting about another 30 minutes. He's Chad, Ocho, Siko, Johnson. Thank you for watching. Your uncle's out.

And y'all, the people still there Are they gone? Hello? Hey, what y'all want to talk about? It's just me. Solo show. What y'all want to talk about? Huh?

I can't read the chat. Because I'm not sleeping. I ain't got to go to work tomorrow. I ain't got no job. First topic, first topic we see. We're talking about it. Let me know. I ain't got nowhere to be.

I ain't got nowhere to go because he was supposed to get me on first take, and so I ain't got no job. Baby, baby, baby, baby, baby, baby, come here. Yeah. Would I rank myself as the best receiver of all time? I mean, honestly, I mean, if I'm being serious, like, all jokes aside, I'm probably, I'm probably like, probably like number 13. Number 13.

All time? All time? Yeah. All time? Yeah, probably 13. I got to be somewhere in the conversation. Somewhere around 13. Anything below 15, somebody lying.

Somebody. My top five? Oh, all time? Can we do me a favor? Can I, for my top five all time? Do me a favor. I'm taking Jerry Rice. I'm taking Jerry Rice and Cheetah,

and I'm putting them in a category of their own. And I'm going for my top five. So 1A and 1B? Randy Moss, T.O. T.O. Randy Moss. T.O. Randy Moss. How do you want to do it? It doesn't matter. Either way. It's interchangable, right? Then, after that, we have Calvin Johnson, Marvin Harrison, Jimmy Smith. Golly. It's like, it can go so many ways. And I don't want to leave out any name because I don't have everybody's name in front of me. I'm just going off the top of the head and what's here and whatever. have right now, but there's so many great ones where there are so many great ones that are deserving of being in the top five. It's just the fact that it's so hard. And it is also based on preference. And I'm not one that bases everything off of numbers because sometimes numbers

don't tell the whole story based on circumstance and the situation that players were, players were in. But, um, all right, so many good ones. But okay, next. Oh, we got a wrap. Okay, I'm out of here. Now I'm done. I'm done. I'm good. Okay, we got a wrap. Another podcast from some SNL late-night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and Friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman

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