The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Nightcap - Ravens-49ers, Raiders shock Chiefs, Eagles beat Giants

Episode Date: December 26, 2023

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to the Baltimore Ravens taking on the San Francisco 49ers, the Raiders shocking upset of Patrick Mahomes and the Kansas City Chiefs, Jalen Hurts and the Philadelphia Eagles beating the New York Giants, and much more on this Christmas episode of Nightcap! 00:00 - Introduction01:00 - Ravens beat 49ers18:00 - Shannon on his previous Lamar criticism28:30 - Raiders beat Chiefs41:00 - The Belichick coaching tree stinks48:30 - Why we have ads1:19:00 - Training camp stories1:35:00 - Overcoming self doubt1:45:00 - Much more Nightcap #Herd #Club #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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And I want to take the time now because I know it's Christmas and you've been unwrapping packages and you've been surrounded by family, loved ones, and friends. And you took time out of your busy schedule to join me and Ocho tonight. So we greatly appreciate that. Make sure you subscribe and get the feed. I see a lot of you guys are still getting the feed through

club shay-she, but you can also get the feed through nightcap podcast. So we greatly appreciate that. We also pin Shea by LaPorteur link at the top of the chat. Christmas is here. It's about to pass us, but you have New Year's and you have President's Day. So there's always a chance to go get a bottle for someone that you love or yourself. Let's get right into the game tonight. There was a beat down in the bay and it wasn't and it wasn't rendered by the 49th. It was the Ravens that brought their show on the road. The first team with five picks in the game this season, their defense overwhelmed.

The front runner at the start of the game, MVP Brock Purdy picked him off what looked like a very promising drive to start the opening possession, Ocho. Kyle Hamilton made a great play on the ball. He intercepted it. And they really never looked back from that point. The offense scored seven points and scored points on seven straight possessions. The Ravens offense scored.

scored points on seven straight possessions and led by as many as 21 and I know the final score was 3319 but the score it wasn't indicative of how what a demolition job the Ravens dead on the 49ers the Baltimore Ravens had won five straight games

and can clinch the number one seed next week with a win against the Miami Dolphids Ocho when you look at this game what was one of your what was a couple of your big takeaways Listen, obviously, when I had picked, thinking about it, I had picked the Ravens to win the game. But then I thought about how could the Ravens win this game with a high-powered offense, the Juggerna offense that is a 49ers. And the first thing I thought about, and when it comes to NFL games, it's all about matchups.

It's all about matchups and schemes. And how well do the Ravens defense match up against the 49ers offense? It's all about personnel. It's all about personnel. And the players you have at each position and how does each position match up individually? and they match up really well, really well. But what scared me about this game is they had the turnovers early. They had the turnovers early.

They got one touchdown of the turnovers, but they had two field goals. They had two field goals. And I just kept thinking to myself, well, if you get getting field goals, that is still get you beat because the offense or the 49ers is very high-powered. Yes. And they had three interceptions, 49 went down and scored, and all of a sudden, it was a one-point game. Yeah. You hadn't capitalized at all. So that kind of scared me a little bit about it.

And I had tweeted, I had tweeted it out. I said, listen, you're raising them. If you're going to get these turnovers, you're going to have to score points. Not no goddamn field goals. Let's make it a bar and burner and, you know, run away with the game. So defensively, you can force the 49ers to make mistakes and get outside of the game plan on what they really like to do. And listen, they ended up winning Lamar. Now, Lamar is 21 and one versus NFC, NFC team.

teams in his career. Yep. Best in staff. I think it's best in stabler. Yeah. Yeah. He was 23 for 35 for 250, but 250, 2 TDs. Zay Flowers.

Man, Zayflow is nice, man. Yeah. But the thing was, you mentioned the 22 or 35, Ocho, 2502 is zero touchdown. Yeah. But it was a clean game. No interceptions. No interceptions. No interceptions.

No interceptions. No, no picks. Zay was 9 for 72 in the TD. The Ravens have won nine of the last 10 games. Mm-hmm. Nine of the last 10 games, plus they had four sacks on Purdy. Listen, the remaining schedule for the Ravens. Obviously, they had a gauntlet of games to play the last four.

They got the Dolphins and the Steelers coming up. Right. The Dolphins, that's another, that's another test. Another playoff atmosphere type game against the Dolphins, which has another high-powered offense just like the 40-9. Because the dolphins want that number one seed also. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They want everything to come through, to come through.

come through Miami. Yep. Yep. You're right. You're absolutely right. The Ravens take, get five, they get five turnovers, four sacks, two on Purdy, two on Sam Darnel. But I thought to think, oh, Cho, when you look at it, and for like the last five weeks, I think everybody had come to

the conclusion. The two best teams in the NFL were the Baltimore Raven than the San Francisco 49ers. Right. Okay. I say, and I said, we're going to find out who, what you got going on come Christmas. Right. Now, when you got two teams, and we're right here, what's the one thing

that can put the other team way up on top of you? Turnovers. Turnovers. You look at what the 49ers. The 49ers had been beating people. The Ravens did to them what they had been doing the other team. When you

turned the ball over that many times, Ocho, it's hard for you to win. I don't care how great your offense is and I don't care how great your defense is. The likelihood of you keeping them to kick field goals, that's great. But the likelihood when you got a guy that's won the MVP,

he's in the MVP discussion right now. And now he's probably in the lead. Considering the guy that, I mean, and, and, Purdy was a substantial, was an substantial lead in front of Lamar. But considering how bad he looked and how good Lamar looked, is hard for me to see a scenario that he's not the favorite. And I believe Christian McCaffrey, who was in third,

is now in second, considering that he looked good, and Purdy looked so bad. Yeah. But Lamar, deservingly so, deserved to be in the MVP discussion because he was good with it. Yeah. He didn't turn the ball over.

He made plays. You see the thing is, Ocho, when I watched the 49th and I watched him very closely. There are a team that like to jump off the ball and go get the quarterback. Oh, yeah. But if you see how they rush,

they rush right down the man. They didn't want to give him lane that he can take off running. Right. Well, you make the offensive line job very easy if you don't get on edges. So now all they do is anchor, let you walk him back, step by step, and now Lamar has time to survey the field.

Because the one thing it seemed like they didn't want to do is give him a lane and let him jump out to window and take off. Right. And this is what I liked about Lamar tonight, though. This is what I like about Lamar because coming out, they say, oh, he's a running back. He's a running back. But now his game has evolved to the point where now I'm a drop-back passer.

And I'm not running the ball unless I have to, unless I have no goddamn Helen choice hell high water, I got to take off and running. And then he out here acting like Houdini with it. Not only is he escaped in the pocket, so the 49ers had their game plan. Can I ask you a question? Yes.

What was Bosa the night? They rendered the offensive line because Bosa likes to bend the edge. Yeah. Everybody wants to bend the edge. Right. Ocho, if I run up field, what do you think Lamar going to do?

He's going to step up in one of the lane and he's gone. So now it's like, it's like, Ocho is going to be one of those games. Ocho, we're not going to, you know, that pass rush, so everything's going to be quick. Or we're going to try to run the ball. And then everybody looks up and say, man, look at Ocho numbers. Ocho ain't have no chance to get the ball because the office of line wasn't going to be able to hold up. See, that's the thing. At the end of the day, you got, and I understand what Steve Wilkes, the defensive coordinator was trying to do.

He's like, guys, we don't want to give him an edge. We don't want to give him lanes. We don't give it. We just want, you know. but at some point in time you said look guys we tried it this way and we can't get him on the group. At some point time we got to change it up, Ocho. Right, right, right, right.

I mean, they say, hey, hey, Ocho, you got to go to the coach. The dude's sitting outside, I can't run the out. You're playing outside leverage. Right, right, right, right. In-cuck, give me a dig. Give me something that I'm breaking away because he's playing outside leverage

because he don't want me to run by him and he don't want me to run this speed out. Well, at some point in time, you got to say, hey, go get the quarterback. And if he gets a lane, he gets a lane. Lane, yeah. And that's on me, if he does do. If he's on me, he does, yeah.

Because how many times did he by time finds a flower? By time, find baitment. By time, find likely. Likely. Yeah. So, so what are we doing at this point? And give him credit. I mean, you see the sidearm throws. He was making plays and he didn't put the ball in harm's weight. Right.

The 49ers put the ball in harm's weight. And the game got away from him like we've seen. The Eagles put the ball in harm's way. 49ers ran away from them. The Cowboys didn't have that many turnovers, but they read Seattle, look at the teams they beat. Right. Normally they win the turnover battle.

You can't turn the ball over five times against a good football team. And the Ravens are, I believe the Ravens are the best team in the NFC. I believe they were the best, their second best team in the NFL. Well, I don't think anybody's going to doubt now. They're the best team in the NFL, considering they've just beat what many thought was the best team in NFL.

Well, you know, And they went on the road to do it. Yep, that's fact. They went in Levi Stadium to do it. I think they are the best team in the NFL, but what I think it is is about hitting your stride at the right time. I also wouldn't, I wouldn't count out the goddamn Rams who are playing really good football at the right time. They're catching their stride at the right time.

The 49ers, the 49ers won't be playing a defense like that of the 49ers. I think they- Like the Ravens, you mean. I'm sorry, like the Ravens. I think other teams that they will match up with, they can dominate based on four. personnel based on what they do from a schematic standpoint, they can have an advantage. But the Ravens, for some reason, match up against them very, very well. Very well. And that's, I always say, it's one thing to look at the teams that are playing, but then you look at the personnel.

And if you understand the personnel and the players that they have, you know that they match it with that team, you know, very well. Oh, Joe. If you look at the first intercession, it's quarter's coverage. There's nothing to hold the front side safety. Nothing at all. Nothing at all. Why would, why would, I understand he, okay, Debo's crossed the, the backside safety's face, but what's holding the front side safety? Nothing.

Nothing. Nothing. They had nothing there. Nothing there. Yeah. And so I'm looking, I'm like, bro, what are you seeing? When you, when you, first of all, we get a game playing, Ocho. We come in a situation, okay, at this area of the field, this down in distance, this area of the field, this is the coverage they like to play.

Right. Okay. This is against this formation. against this formation, they like to play this coverage. So you have a general idea of kind of the coverage that they're going to play. Based on down the distance, yeah. Down in distance and area of the field. Bro, you drop back.

It's quarters. The safety basically go drop straight back. I get it. You try to hold the backside. You flare one side and you run, I think it's George Kittle. You run him like a square out. Now, the only way you can hold him is that if you have him push up higher. Yeah.

But if you notice, the corner sunk on the back side. Yeah. So there's really nothing. And now the safety doesn't have to do anything. He just see it. You see it. Yeah. And Kyle Hamilton, like, thank you.

And then the other two interceptions. Bro, Stevens come, they run double slot blitz. Mm-hmm. Stevens come from one side. Marlon Humphrey comes from the other. He gets his hands up. He fasts the ball up in the air. Purdy tries to locate it.

Well, by this time, Marlon and Humphrey doesn't jump. No, he didn't already got it. Yep. And then the other one. cow hampton's on the ground he gets up off the ground off of Cameram you see how hustle

you see what hustle does and being in the right place at the right time being in the right place at the right time but did you watch those 49ers receivers

did you see them going George Kittle catch that ball did you see IU yeah did you see did you see Debo do you see those guys those guys we're going to talk about this later

but did you see Zaki on Devante Smith run? Did you see how he hit him on the DB on the 10 and pancake him in the ins on the show? Yeah. Hey, but in this game, kudos to the Baltimore Ravens.

You're right now the best team in football regardless of conference. Lamar Jackson is the MVP frontrunner, I believe. That's what I was going to ask you. I mean, basically, basically you can actually give it to him. We got two games left in the season.

And obviously, you know, MVP is based on what you've done throughout the regular season. Regular season. They got the Dolphins and the Steelers next. I think the showing against the dolphins at home at M&T Bank Center, whatever it's called where they play. M&T Stadium, yeah. M&T, I think he's going to have a good game.

So if based on his showing, he's next two games, when you say Lamar Jackson would be the NFL's MVP, regardless of statistics? But you know what it is? Hold on. So are you telling me if he has a game like Brock Purdy, he's still the MVP? Well, I mean, he's not going to have it.

He's not, he's not. Did you think Brockford was? Listen, offensively, offensively, the Ravens aren't a volume passing team like the 49ers are. The 49ers aren't. The chances of having a game like that is slim to none. You know Brock Purdy throw the 26 most passes in the NFL, even though he was second and passing yards. They're not a volume team. And the past, think about the passes that they throw a hole, cho.

They're swing passes. Quick, quick, quick, quick, quick, okay, okay, okay. I see you going with it. I see you going with it. But you got two games to go. A lot of things can happen in two games. Right. But right now, as they're getting, they're showering and feeling good about themselves and rightfully so.

Yeah. Lamar Jackson is your MVP right now. Okay. Okay. He's your MVP like right now. I got Christian McCaffrey. It's second. It's second.

I'm going out on, I'm going to go out on a limb. I'm going to go out on a limb. And knowing would it only be in two games left, the momentum, the confidence, the morale that the team has right now, I have a good feeling that that momentum is going to continue into next week and obviously it's going to continue on to the Steelers. And he probably will be the MVP for the second time. It's just something about the hair of the thing. You know the Ravens and the Steelers don't like each other.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I know about that. I know about that. Yeah. Now, you, look, you know how division rival games go. Yes. But there's nothing. I mean, this is like Michigan, Ohio State.

This is North Carolina. This is North Carolina Duke. Right, right. They just, they just, this is the Hatfield of Coins. Yeah. They despise each other. Yeah, literally. Literally, they do.

And if you think the state, because the Steelers are going to probably need to win that game to make the playoffs. Right. So. Oh, shit. For real. That's right.

That's right. That's right. That's right. That's right. That's right. Because the Raven clenched the division. Mm-hmm. So now they need this to make the playoffs.

Mm-hmm. So it's going to. That makes the implications that game even that much more serious. Yes. Yes. Yes. And if I get a chance to it, let's see him, hmm, not only can I clinch the division,

I can make sure somebody else have home field instead of you. Right. Hey, I get two birds or one. Hey, I get two for the front of one. But it's going to be great. Congratulations to the Baltimore Ravens. Go on the road three time zones. That's a long way to travel, Ocho.

Yeah. Hey, listen, it's going to be a beautiful flight home. I know that. It's going to be a beautiful flight home. Because if you get lost, if you had lost, you got to take that five of a flight from the, from the west of the east, it ain't going to be pretty.

And then getting home, I mean, it's already midnight on the east. They haven't even left the stadium yet. Nah, not at all. Not at all. They ain't going to take off until maybe,

let me see, team, 53 players, staff, got to unload all the equipment. They probably ain't going to take off to about one o'clock. Yeah,

yeah, yeah, about one, one, one, one, one, one,

one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, East Coast time. It'll be 10, it'll be 10, 30 West Coast time.

But we took, because they travel at East. So that's a five, that's a, they ain't going to get home till about 6.30, 7 a.m. Easily. Because that's what happened. We got back. We played Miami on a Monday night. And we, and we had to come back to Denver. Oh, Joe, I was like, and Mike's like, okay, you know, you got off.

And I normally come in. Hell, I just started, I worked out. I got, ain't got my stuff. I changed out about my clothes. I got me a work. I said, I see y'all go wins. Right, right, right. Right. Hey, brother's already 530.

6 o'clock. I'm just going to get my workout. Get it, get it out the way. Get it and be done with it. Right. Congratulations, Ravens. Good check. Let the 49ers know. Hey, bro, there's some things we need to work on because at the end of the day,

no matter how good we are, if we turn down, we become very average. No team has ever been good enough to overcome five turnover, especially when you're dealing with a Baltimore Ravens on the other side. So congratulations, Ravens. they're the AFC North champs and currently still the number one seed

and Lamar Jackson NFL front runner for the MVP. Oh Cho, we've already got 40,000 in the chat. What? Yes, 40,000.

Hey, 40,000 people. I love y'all. I appreciate you. I love you. Make sure you subscribe. Hey, make sure you subscribe. 39,916

on my Baltimore Ravens fans. Jackie. Zach is as much love and respect, both Unc and Ocho. Lamar Jackson is the MVP of the league. The numbers don't tell the whole story. Several times tonight, he's shown himself to be the...

Zach, we said this. No quarterback is asked to carry a load like Lamar Jackson. Yeah. For the most part, we already know he's the quarterback, so we know he's their passing game. But he's also the engine of their running game. And even though, what do you have the night? He only had 45 yards.

They only had... I mean, you look at the Ocho, they only had 26 carries. Yeah. They had 26 carries for basically a hundred and two yards. And a lot of that was a scrabble. You remember he had that long 30-yard run. Uh-huh. Yeah.

Right before it ended up getting him in field go ran. And so, but yeah, we understand what's asked of Lamar on a, on a weekly basis. There if you, because no other quarterback, I mean, can run like the top quarterback, Obviously, Justin Field has legs like he has. Right, right, right, right. But Justin feels, you know, that situation is what it is. Right. Of the top quarterback, the Burroughs, the Mahomes, the Herbert, that, uh, uh, that, uh, Tua,

none of them is asked to shoulder a load like Lamar. Yeah, and the funny thing, what I really like what they've done for Lamar, and they can even, they can even improve it more. It's the supporting cast that they put around them to take the onus and the load off of his shoulders on not having to run, which is why I like the fact that he's, He's now becoming what I like to consider more of a complete pastor because you have receivers that can get open, actually get open in one-d-one situations. You ain't got to scheme everybody because you can't be able to scheme people open all the damn time. And we're going to talk about this a little later with the other team that we talked about.

And what I tell you, Ocho, the chiefs. Oh, listen, did you see your off sides today? I'm just asking you. Did you see your off-sized offensive today? Got one more question. Did you see a drop ball today? Yes. Oh, yeah. Okay. Okay. Yeah. But, hey, you know the NFL, you see what happened, Ocho. That all the teams started sending the offside plays in. Ocho, they've called most or more offsides on offensive wide receivers this year than I can recall. I don't remember that many calls in my 14 year playing career. Do you remember? No. Honestly, no. And the fact that it was brought to our attention when the Chiefs had Cadarius lining up off sides, not everybody, they opened the floodgates. Yes.

call every single time. And you know what I like to, and you know it's funny. You know what I like to do? And I can say it now because I'm not playing no more. I like to cheat the ball a little bit. Of course you do. I like to cheat the ball a little bit. Just a tad bit because I know the rest I'm not going to call it. It's not like egregious, completely off-sides. Right.

I like to get a little air. Just a little bit. Maybe my face mask is over the ball. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not going to block. I'm not going to block his view. You just can't block his view. His face mask, he still can look down on. line and see the ball. I can't see it. Yep. Yeah. Yes. And her hold of, red hood. You disappoint me thinking Brock Purdy is as good as Lamar Jackson and thinking he's elite and

pre- Lord have mercy. I don't like, you know, before you even answer that, before you even ask him, I hate the comparison of the quarterbacks. I hate the comparison of the quarterback for the simple fact everything is stat-based, for one, rightfully so, as you always tell me, because numbers don't lie. But the skill sets They don't tell the whole story, though. The whole story, but the skill sets between Brock Purdy and Lamar Jackson are completely different. Oh, Joe.

Completely different. Oh, Joe. Remember, when they was having this early on when he beat the Cowboys, I was one of the only analysts that said Brock Purdy is an elite. Right, right, right, right. They was on your head. They was on your head. Yes. Yes.

But here's the thing. They got on, see, see, they don't want to listen to what I have to say. They just want to take snippets of he said this over here. He said that over there. I've never said Brock Purdy was elite. As a matter of fact, I was one of the few that said he wasn't elite. Second of all, just because someone is playing good, that doesn't make them better. You can have a better year than a quarterback and not be a better player.

What is so hard to understand about that, Ocho? Right. There are a lot of people that won MVP during Michael Jordan tenure. Does that mean they were better players or they had a better year? That's okay. Same thing with LeBron. same thing with Kobe. Y'all got to stop this.

See, y'all trying to paint this picture. Now, none of y'all jumped up and said, Shannon, thanks for supporting Lamar, because when everybody else was telling him to switch positions and go play wide receiver, I was the one to say, I saw the man win the Housman trophy, throwing the ball and running it.

At the quarterback position, right. At the quarterback position, I believe he can do that in the NFL. When he was for the MVP, I remember his first, his first playoff game against the charges, They were still in San Diego then, and they lost, and he didn't play well. I said, the guy's a rookie, and that he's not right now able to throw the ball well enough in order to win.

And what did he do? He came back, and from start to finish, he was the MVP, 36 and 6, 36 touchdown, 6 interceptions. I roll with it, but they disregard all that. But see, what y'all want, Bartman, I'm going to go ahead and say it. See, y'all got a problem with me. Y'all don't want me to critique black players. As long as I'm critiquing the white players because when I was at Baker Mayfield

and Tony Romo and all those white guys neck, y'all didn't say H-H-I-T. But now, if Lamar Jackson plays good, I got no problem. If that plays good, I got no problem. But I cannot in good conscience, know the game like I know it, played it 14 years,

and now study it as if I'm a coach. Right. See something that's going on. I told y'all from day one, The Cowboys concerned because of red zone offense. And what happens when their defense don't get pick sixes? Oh, now all of a sudden, man, Aunt was right. But that's not what you said at the time.

You said I was a hater. Right. When I told you from day one about the Chief's offense, the skill position, and the offensive line, oh, shut up. And what did I say, Ocho, remember? Man, if Val Del Scantler had to hold that ball, I said, Ocho, you got to be careful. Yeah.

Because, see, if you base somebody's offense on one play, look at it at its totality. look how many times they dropped the ball. Look how many times Patrick Mahoney had to run for his life just to find somebody that was open or takeoff running. Man, y'all stop this. I ain't got no agenda against Lamar. Yes, I played for the Ravens.

This is how it works. I played for the Ravens. I played my ass off for the Ravens. I was fortunate enough, kept to win a Super Bowl. Now I'm an analyst. What is so hard to understand about that? Just like I critiqued the Broncos. Play 12 years from them.

I'm not going to stop, guys. I don't care what y'all say. How many times y'all said, I hate Lamar, I got an agenda. I do have an agenda to be the best at what I do. And none of y'all, nobody that's in this chat, no more football, and can break it down and analyze the game like I can. So y'all use your criteria to how y'all critique and grave players, and I'm going to use mine.

Take off, Joe. where it's hard to follow up behind a sermon like that it's hard to follow up behind a sermon like that but listen i i understand what people are coming from i see i'm i'm on both sides both sides of the coin obviously uh i think people think more emotion as if they think more with emotion feelings aren't facts though yeah feeling you know emotions and being a fan of obviously the team and the player so they want it to be one way they want your views to be aligned with theirs and when they don't align with theirs then there's a problem Oh, you don't like this person or you're hating on this person.

But again, you have a job to do the criteria in which you judge and critique people is much different than those who are actually fans of the player and fans of the team. People have to understand that. Yes, Marcus Hosey. Calm down on August's Raven fan. You've been fair with your critique. Appreciate that, Marcus. I like to think I'm always fair. But I just got to call it like I see. It is.

And I know it's hard to understand. I was the first one to say about the Eagles. Y'all didn't want to hear me. Y'all called me a hater. Eagle fans called me a hater. I say you don't run the ball. Jalen Hurst is turning the ball over too much and your defense don't get to the quarterback

and you don't take the wall away. So if you give it away and you don't take it away and you can't possess the ball to keep your defense off the field, you're going to be in trouble. And you're not going to look as powerful and as potent as you did last year. Last year, yeah.

We're the best team in the NFL, but never fully healthy. J.K. has been gone. Mark is gone, Staley, it's part-time left tackle, and we still find ways. You have, that's because of Harbaugh. That's because the Ravens don't make excuses. I mean, when I went there in 2000, you play like a Raven. It doesn't matter who's in the ball game.

You play hard. And that's what John Harbaugh, I can honestly say, those guys are going to play hard. Think about the great players that's come and gone. From Jonathan Ogden, Ray Lewis, Suggs, Ed Reed. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter who's in the lineup. It's what you have, the uniform that you have on. You have on that purple and black.

Or you have on that white and purple. Well, we know who we are. We know what we represent. The standard is the standard. You play to a level no matter who's in the game, no matter who you play. And that's why the Ravens have been able to find success, no matter who's in the ball game.

They don't always win. You're not going to win them all. But if you play hard and you play for the man next to you, you're not going to have a problem. Right. Dan Boying said, did people miss when Unk was lobbying for Lamar to get paid? Nah, no, no, no, no. Dan, stop.

You make too much sense. I've been saying, hey, this should have passed saying, hold on, how do you not go? How are you not going to pay the man? Y'all will let the ink drown his contract and then tell me why he's not there. Y'all know where I'm not there. Everybody else got contracts after their third year. Every other quarterback, Patrick Mahomes, Deshaun Watson, Joe Burrow, Justin Herbert, all of them guys.

Yeah. Hell, they even did, they did, uh-oh. Jalen Hurst is solid. This man got to play the contract completely out and play on the franchise. Hey. Yeah. Come on, man. Man, please.

Let's get into this other game. Which one? Which one? Which one? Going to the Chiefs. Yeah. Hey, Jack Jones. Jack Jones, I know you in the chat watching, Bwack.

I know you watch. I need a jersey, baby. Kansas City Chiefs opened a game with back-to-backer back three in our drive. And the chief did not get a first down without a penalty until their fourth possession. The chiefs finished the first quarter with minus 18 yards. The worst quarter by our team since the Bears had minus 20 week 15 of four, uh, week 15 2004. We saw Mahomes laying into his offensive line on the sideline. We saw Travis Kelsey get sore place slaying his helmet. And the, uh, the equipment guy tries to go get his helmet. And Andy said, nah, don't get him his helmet. And he,

He bumped him. He's like, come on, now. You are leader. We can't have you like that. I understand the frustration. And that's what's hard, Ocho. Yeah. Everybody's watching.

Everybody's watching. And they got more cameras when you and I play because everybody wants to catch everything. Yeah. That's why you got to cover your mouth on the side of it. Because they don't read your lips. Yeah. But what you see the,

you see the Chiefs had an opportunity to clinch the division for the eight straight time. Yeah. And the Raiders, I think Antonio Pierce deserves that job with the way he's coaching this. team and the way they're playing hard for him. God, they deserve that. I think he deserves that job.

But you watch the Chiefs and we've been talking about the Chiefs and you thought they were going to get this thing together. When you look at the Chiefs, and we're going to touch on the Raiders also because we need to get them to flyers also. When you look at the Chiefs, what do you see? I see a team struggling. I see a team struggling similar to how Lamar has to carry the lobe, well, actually not as much anymore because there's a supporting chaos that they put around Lamar with the Ravens. I see Patrick Bahomes having to do more, having to do more with teams now. Okay, listen, we play it. We play in the Chiefs.

What do we do? No, we're going to lock in on Kelsey. We're going to lock in on Kelsey. We're going to line up all alignments based on him when we break this huddle. And we're going to force everyone else to beat us. We're going to force everyone else to beat us because what do we have to do? What do they have to do offensively? They have the scheme ways to get their players open.

They have, do they, who do they have with the DNA or I call it the fortitude to be able to nobody one-b-one matchups? Consistently. Consistently come hell of high water. They don't have that. They don't have that. So it puts the onus and the pressure on Patrick Mahomes that have to create miracles first down, create a miracle second down, create a miracle third down, and it's just not possible.

And now you're seeing the frustration boil over because everything is on his shoulders. And Kelsey can't do it all It can't do it all It's only so many times What you put on film is going to work At some point The NFL catches up to you At some point the NFL catches up

To the offense that you're running And your tendencies And that is what we're seeing now Because there's nobody over there There's no Tyreek Hill There's no Tyree Hill There's no security blanket For him right now

Because the security blanket is Travis Kelsey Oh well we take Travis Kelsey out of the game Whatever else you got? What else you got? That's no disrespect to anybody else on that team offensively, but I'm just calling a spade a spade. There has to be another outlet that is a threat that poses some type of threat, and they just don't have that. No, they do not have that. And you and I both know this. There's only so many formations you can run. There's only so many times you can bunch it or stack it. There's only so many times you can motion. There's only so many times

you can get a three by one or two by two or three by two. There's only so many formations. And at some point in time, you got to have a guy that says, you know what, just go get open. Yeah. Just go get open. And they don't have that. You see, I'm watching D.Bs now.

D.Bs don't even get out of their back panel. They're not even moving. They're not even moving. You got a guy that you know can throw the ball over your head. Yeah. He said, but y'all are not going to go down. Y'all not fit to run no routes to go get it. So I'm sitting on everything.

That's why the guy you was talking about. how he picked it. Now, Mahomes did throw it off his back foot. That too. Oh, and you didn't see the receiver falling away from the ball? That's Godboard. Yes, he did. He falling away from the ball. You got to cut.

You got to attack the ball. Oh, Lord. See, see, you, you and I here. See, it's little stuff like that, Ojo, that allows the DB to undercut and to make a play on the ball. Yeah. And because Patrick Mahomes is, because now he feels, man, I got to make every play. And he's taking unnecessary risk.

Do you know the Raiders scored 17 points and never completed a pass within those 17 points? And, look, Patrick Mahomes, he's accomplished what he's accomplished. He's a two-time league MVP, a two-time Super Bowl winner

with a Super Bowl MVP's. But right now he's pressing and he's not playing well. And it's exacerbated because he doesn't have anybody that can bail him out. He doesn't have anybody that he can just dump the ball to or just hand the ball to. Make it happen.

Like a Christian McAfrey. Yeah. Brock, I mean, Brock Purdy was struggling. They could still, Christian McCaffrey still ended up with over 100 yards. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Mahomes doesn't have that.

No, they're going to have to address that. They're going to have address that in the offseason. They could have addressed it. They had an opportunity to get D.Hawp. B. I don't think the money was right. I don't think the money was right for D. I'm saying, I don't think the money was right.

And I think they feel like, you know what? No, it wasn't. I'm saying, but you got to make the money right. Make the money right. I see what you're saying. But they don't want to make the money right because they feel Patrick Mahom can get it done because he did it without Tyreek before. So if we didn't have a dynamic player in Tyreek and he left when we still won a Super Bowl, I think we can get it done with the group we have in here now. But now, as you see, this season, now you have to address it.

You have no choice but to get a dog in there. You have no choice. Nothing is more. burdensome, burdensome, but tedious than expectations. See, when Tyreek left, they didn't have no expectations. I don't think Mahomes can do it because, look, he got a Skymore and they had this guy and they had that guy. There wasn't the expectations to get to and win the Super Bowl like it is this year

because Scott Moore is in his second season. Cadarius Tony has a full season in this system. MBS has another year in this system. So the expectations this year were different than they were last year. Right. And so now you see, Sky Moore is bad. He's regressed. Cadarius Tony has a injury and he's not even dressing.

Justin Ross, I remember Ross. He was a freshman at Clemson and did a demolition job on Alabama. Yeah. And, you know, he had an injury that caused him a missile, I think, an entire season. and he has some issues off the field this year that caused him to miss five or six games. But like you said, they take Kelsey away and there's like,

and because even Kelsey has been bitten by the drop bug. He had a ball, he had a ball, he jumped. You're catching with one hand. All he need to do is this. Just reach up, yeah. That's all he had to do. But all of a sudden it's contagious.

And everybody's dropping the ball. Nobody's, but the offensive. line. I saw it in the first game of the season. Right. You sign a guy in free agency from Jacksonville, who was just a guy. You get Donovan Smith, who's aging, who was old and hurt last year in Tampa. Yeah. And you bring him in and guess what? He's old and he's hurt now. And so you bring the backup in, and he's getting blown by by Coot every plate.

Max Crosby is a different animal. Completely. I didn't see nobody with a motor like he is. Completely different animal. You know, you know who you remind me of? Who there? Remember Jared Allen? Yes, yes. Yeah. You might be a Jared Allen.

You know, Allen used to be in Kansas City. I think I might have called one year him. I'm not certain. But, you know, he ended up going to Minnesota. Minnesota. But I saw Max Crosby line up on the offensive right side. They run a quick screen to Kelsey on the left side. And he made the tackle.

Tackle. That's it. And I'm thinking. to myself, I'll say, I know Max Crosby just didn't make the tackle, because I knew where he lined up at. On the opposite side of the goddamn field. He made a tackle hit Kelsey dead in his face.

Yeah. I'm like, what the hell? Now, back to the Raiders. I still think they need a quarterback because they're wasting Devante. I was just going to say that. Josh Jacob. I mean, white, I think that's, hold on. Let me see.

Hold on. Let me see. Hold on. Let me get the staff here. you know, I like money. You know, I got new gas. You know, I feel like I'm a Tom Cruise and Minority Report. You know, I'll be hitting that screen. Yeah, yeah, that would I be doing. Z White, 22 rush of the buck 45, 43 long.

Remember, Ocho, Kansas City was trying to get the ball back. He's, I can get y'all this ball back. Oh, line, let's take this thing over. He ran the air out of the ball, ended up and taking a kneel down. So 22 for a buck, 45 for him, 29 carries 156. Aiden O'Connell was 9-21 for 62 yards. That just goes to show you turn the ball over. Yeah.

They fumble for a touchdown through a, what, a pig six for a touchdown, had another interception that led to a field goal. That's 14 points. Yeah. So you score 14. Again, it's getting very difficult for the-Cadler. With Ocho, man, you know, Kansas City, you already know you had to score 28 to 31 to beat them in there.

Yeah, to beat them. Oh, yeah. This is just last year, not. Yes. This is just last year. The funny thing about it is Mahomes has been that great. He's been that great where it's almost as if he's damn near immortal at the quarterback position. That's the way he's made it look so far in a short amount of time.

To be able to win two Super Bowls, he's in what, fifth year? Fifth year or six year? 2016 was his rookie season, right? But, Mohn, 2017 was his rookie season. He won the MVP in 18. Because Lamar was a rookie in 18, won the MVP in 19. And so, yeah. Okay.

You're right. Yeah. So Woody's been able to accomplish in such a short amount of time, how good he is. How good he is with all the throws. And, you know, we're enamored by some of the things that he can do on the field. Winning two Super Bowls in such a short amount of time, it's almost become a thought that, well, we can have lesser talent, around him because he is so great.

Yes. But now at some point, like I said earlier, teams, they study you, they watch film, they understand your tendencies, and we say, well, you know what? The only weapon they do have is 87. So all we got to do is lock in on him, and there's only so much creativity you can do. Listen, when they were rolling offensively, they were doing all type of ring around the roads and stuff outside the huddle. You can be creative when nobody knows what the hell you're getting ready to do.

Now everyone else is caught up. Everyone else is caught up, and now you have to have those boys in there where you can't scheme anybody together. You got to be able to line up and say, you got to win for me. They just don't have that. Right. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque.

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Listen to Help from Hypocrite as part of the Mike Cultura podcast network available on the IHart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Oh, you better have the same smoke for Mahomboil like you have for Lamar and he won the MVP without receivers. I mean, if you look at it, I mean, look, I think Mark Andrews was there when Lamar won the MVP last year Travis Kelsey was there with Mahomes when he won the MVP the other years

I think he had he obviously had Tyreek I think Sammy Watkins was there also the year he won the MVP Sammy But at some point in time that catches up with you Yeah it catches up with you

See you know what happened Ocho is that people were had convinced themselves That Edelman and Amandola and Wes Welker they were just guys. They're not. They were really good.

See, now we base receivers on, if you're not Tyreek or you not A.J. Brown or you not Chase or you not J.J. Justin Jefferson, you're not any good. No. For that system and for what they need, they weren't good. They were great.

Welker was great. I mean, you talk, I mean, go back and look at Welker numbers. When he got there, he was getting 122, 125. catch it. Yeah, a lot. Go back and look at Elderman. Go back and look at Amandola. Those guys were really, really good given what they were asked to do. They were not outside the number guys. They were everything they did was in the middle of the field.

Right. And you got to take, go ahead. That's basically, when you think about the makeup of the New England offense during those Tom Brady, that Tom Brady era, if you think about it, they wanted a few teams in NFL where everything was run from the inside out. Yes. Think about that. Everything was run from the inside out. So your number ones is your number one,

your read star from here as opposed to other teams where you got dominant wide receivers on the outside and you read star from one and your process from there on out. But when it came to them, you know, your Amandola's, your West Welkers, your Aaron Hernandez, you had your gronks, where everything went from the inside out as opposed to how other teams operated.

But go ahead and finish your point. Yeah. And so you're absolutely right. And what they would do is that then they catch a sneaking air like, oh, I'm going to jump this inside route. And now they throw the ball to the outside. Because think about when they had Randy, they didn't win the Super Bowl. Would they have Randy? Hey, they went undefeated until what?

That last game. Last game against the Giants in the Super Bowl. Yeah. And so that's the thing is that just because a guy isn't first team all pro and he's not a perennial pro bowl player, that doesn't mean that he's not good. Right. We've got to stop this notion where he ain't Tyree. Who is? Yeah, nobody.

And you have to understand. Remember, it was all fine and good when Randy was catching passes. The moment Randy started complaining, what happened, Ocho? You got to go. That's why I told me. You have to understand. What, you, man, JJ and Chase and all those guys, man, they're not been to go no three, four games and catch two, three passes. She.

at all. So Coach Belichick understands he's like, man, look, everybody ain't built for the cold locho. What I mean by that, everybody's not built to play just because you're a football player and you're a great one.

That doesn't mean you're built to play in New England. Everybody can't play in New England. And unless you've been there or talk to people like I have that have been there, then you can properly assess it understand that it's more than just talent. Right. To play in that system.

Yeah. But congratulations to the Raiders. The Raiders played. The Raiders did what they needed to do. I'm happy for the Raiders because I really want AP to get that job. I think he's deserving. What you mean? Think you want him to get it. I mean, it's a no-brainer. Oh, Joe.

It's a no-brainer. What does management going to do? Oh, Cho. We saw the same thing in Carolina with Steve Wilkes. when he took over for Matt Rule, had him playing extremely well. He won a bunch of ball games once Matt Rule left. And the team, the players wanted him.

What did he do? No, was it Matt Rule? No, who got fired if he came in for? Steve Wilkes. And they ended up hiring Matt Rule. Who got fired? Was it Matt Rule? Matt Roo got fired and Steve Wilkes filled in.

Okay. Yes. And the team played well, and the players wanted him. This is different. The players need to voice their opinion. I'm sure they can. I'm sure they can. Listen, look what Pierce's did since McDaniels has been fired.

They've been four and three. They four and three. It's the first time the Raiders winning KC since week five in 2020. So if you have your players responding to a certain coach and playing at a high level without a consistent quarterback, a franchise changing quarterback, why wouldn't you bring them back? You got a player's coach, a player that knows a game that. played the game, it only makes sense. Who are you going to

hire? Who are you going to go get that can do a better job than what Antonio Pearson doing with a team that doesn't have an elite quarterback at the helm? You remember when they win gave John Grooing the $100 million for 10 years? You remember when they just gave Josh McDaniel all that money?

Yeah. Okay. The Raiders are about splash. They always want to name. They probably had more Hizman trophy winners on their roster. That's what Al. Al love Hizman. trophy winners. He love big names. He love big name coaches. Right.

You don't give a 10-year deal, Ocho? We've never heard of that. No player has ever had a 10-year deal. No coach has ever had a 10-year deal. He gave a guy 10 years. He just gave Josh McDaniel like seven years. So, unless it's not, they're still going to arbitration trying to sort this thing out with John

Gruden. Right. But you might have to pay John Gruden $60 million. You've got at least $60 million tied up in Josh McDaniel. Right. Damn. He like names. He thinks that wins. Nah. Doesn't. But the Patriot Way,

ain't no Patriot Way. The Patriot Way was Tom Brady. The Patriot Way only works in New England. Look at all the coaches that's from Belichick Treat. And there's a lot of them. Yeah. Tell me the one that's one outside of New England. Charlie Wise, Romeo Cornell, Bill O'Brien, Josh McDaniels. Josh McDaniels had two jobs and got fired halfway through the second year in both of them.

One for cheating and one because he couldn't coach. In Denver? Yes. He tried to do what they was doing in New England. Yeah, that ain't going to work. No, Mr. Mosey, no, you're not going to tarnish my reputation. That ain't been to happen. Right.

So. That's crazy. Alex Shepard donated $50 and he wanted to ask, what's up, you know, 85? Speaking of defenses, did you see the Raiders pillage, need a quarterback, some work on the old line, but that defense has been a problem since they dropped the Patriot Way. Yeah, the Patriot Way doesn't work.

He doesn't have, he doesn't have, see, here's the thing also. Coach Belichick has been able to get by because, you know, Ojo, once you win, you kind of, it's kind of like, if I own a business that I'm, you know, the business is doing, you know, sometimes the executive talked to the workers a certain type of weight. Right. And then you take it like, well, we are getting nice paychecks and we are the top company.

Right. Josh McDaniels thought he could go to Denver, probably thought he could take that same thing to Oakland, talk to people, the mean player, talk down to his coaches, give people his butt to kids, and think, no, that ain't going to work, bro. Nobody ain't going to want to play for you.

Definitely not. Definitely. And it definitely ain't going to work if you don't have the quarterback in place. No. You better win. For the areas that are weak. You got a lot of stuff and you got a great quarterback.

Tom was different, man. Were we 43? We're at 43,000 in the chair, Ocho. 43, 43,000 people. I love you. Let's get a 50. Call somebody. Call a family member.

Call two family members and a friend. We try to get a pity. Tell them getting that thing real quick. Hey, people, I see some of y'all complaining about these. Bro, how you think we make money? Wait, what they complain about? Somebody, we put in ads in the chat. How you think we make money?

Let me ask your question. Watch the ad. Oh, Ocho, Ocho, how you think these networks make money? They don't have commercial. You don't have a non-stop football. You don't say nothing when they score a touchdown or when they get an interception

and they cut to a commercial. Them commercial pay the bills. Now you've got two-po hustlers. Ocho trying to make an honest hustle and y'all say, my, y'all put the ads up. How the hell we're supposed to make money? I'm just trying to catch up on child support, man. That's all.

Well, I've got off child support, but I need a little money. Guys, I'm sorry that we have to put ads in here. But that's the only way. You know, it takes, you know, Ocho got a staff. I got a staff, the volume, who I co-partner with. They got staff that have to cut this stuff up, just doing this stuff with YouTube. Come on, guys.

Yeah. Cut us with some flags. Stall us out. Work with us now. Yeah, work with us. See, you can always buy that YouTube premium They don't have no ads on YouTube premium Hey, you have much YouTube premium cost you think

Don't start middle line Hell, I only don't even know how much YouTube Call let alone the premium. I know premium gas is higher than regular gas That hot gas gas gas Yeah Before you finish You talk about gas I'm lost

What kind of car you drive? I got an EV from BMW M70. So premium is like 98? Yeah, well, premium is back in the south, we call it the hotest gas, that white gas. You know, I think it's 23 octane. It's 93 octane, right? 93 octane. So, you know, you might have gas. Let's just say you get gas there's 450, 479, 499 is that hard tank.

Now, out here in California, I think it's $6 a gallon. $6 a gallon for who? if you drive if you drive a premium car that requires premium land it your car that's why i got me an evy yo you wonder why i'm my money jump on it yeah and you wonder why i've been driving a small cost in 2006 this i go i go fill it right now $14.55 miles of a gallon park anywhere 55 miles a gallon i mean it's going to take you two days to get somewhere not what you mean my my um my my domitre speed i hit a about not get about a hundred and five.

Man, you're hitting a hundred and five of that. Yeah. That friend Flintstone car. Hey, no, don't talk about my car like that. Don't do that. That's disrespectful. I ain't said nobody to be able to. I ain't said nobody to be a number.

That EV though. That em said that thing nice. What EV stand for? Electric vehicle. By bad, I guess I should have said electric vehicle. But I thought, I thought everybody knew what it was. Okay. Man, you know I ain't in the cars, man.

I got my little smart car. What I got, Ocho, I got an EV. I don't know what EV is. I never heard of that. You should have said I have a BMW, but it's electric. Okay, I don't know what EV means.

Yeah, no, listen, I would be it be to have a BMW and it's an electric vehicle. I don't know. By bad, I thought you do. By bad, I'm sorry. I'm not in the cars. I apologize. I know what it is.

YouTube premium is $15.99 a month. Man, come on, chat. That's a lot. All y'all got to do. Can y'all watch like 10, 15 seconds of the ad? Come on. Hold on. We know what we should do?

Let's make a commercial where it's a commercial for a nightcap and we are the ad. Can they do that or no? I mean, I kind of did that. And the lead in leading up to it, I had a read for a draft king who's one of the big sponsors. Okay. And normally as we move forward, we're going to, I'm going to, We're going to have, I mean, if you want to do some read, you can. Me?

Yeah. I know how to read, too. I know how to read. You can read out the prompt? Yeah. Oh, yeah, real good. I'm real good. I'm real good.

Okay. I'm real good. But, yeah, but that's the chat calling you Fred Flintstone. But YouTube premium is $15.99 a month. I don't know how much regular YouTube is. I don't really know anything about that. But that is free. It's free.

But that's the price that you. I mean, I mean, guys, all the years that y'all been watching sporting events, name the time that the game goes 12 minutes, 12 minutes, and it goes nonstop. Don't take no time out, and they don't show you no, they just keep it on the game. And football. In the change of possession, for the most part, they cut the commercial. You got to. They got to pay them bills.

You got to pay them bills. I got to pay Ash. I got to pay George. I got to play Ocho. I got to pay. I mean, damn. them. Y'all want me to pay the money

out of my pocket on. Hey, but speaking, speaking of paying, you're gonna, I'm gonna act a fool on my birthday. When's your birthday? My birthday is January 9th, and I'm gonna, I'm gonna do some a little different that I never, never done before.

And I'm just thanking you ahead of time because what you make it, what you have been able to bestow upon me and allow my cup to runneth over. I'm gonna go ahead. I'm gonna go ahead and bless myself and act a fool on my birthday. You go buy yourself something or you're just going to have a party?

Yeah, no, I'm going to buy myself some. I'm for now. I'm going to ask up. What you go get on, what you go get, what you go get? I can't tell you. I can't tell you, but I'm going to cut up. Because, you know, you've been a blessing to me, and I thank you. So I'm going to get, I'm going to go outside my box for a little bit.

Ain't nothing wrong with that. Yeah. Hey, bro, this has been a blessing for both of us. I couldn't have done it without you. It worked. It works because of who you are. It works because of who I am. Yeah.

We're different in a lot of ways, but in a lot of ways that we're similar. So I appreciate you being a part of this. And I appreciate the fans for embracing us and giving us an opportunity to share some of the stories and some of our analysis on three nights a week. The Giants, the Eagles beat the Giants, 3325. Tommy DeVito was replaced by Ty Rod Taylor in the third quarter. Giants entered the hat. trailing 20 to 3 and Tyrod nearly brought them back, nearly brought the Giants all the way back. After tossing 133 yards of the touchdown, the Eagles intercepted his final pass, final pass attempt into the end zone.

And the Eagles were able to hang on to a victory. I like Tyrod. I mean, Tyrod was a starting quarterback. He took Buffalo to the playoffs. They lost the hardball game in the playoffs too. I think it was a 9-6 ball game or 10-6 ball game to Jacksonville. The year Jacksonville almost beat New England in New England. England.

Yeah. So he's always been a very good backup. He was a backup to Joe Flacco in Baltimore the year they won the Super Bowl in 2012, in 2012, if I'm not mistaken. So I've always had a lot of respect and admiration for Tyrod. And he's a, you know, he got bad luck because he was paid to be the starting quarterback for the charges. Yeah.

He had a rib injury. He gets an injection and it punctured his lungs. Lung. Lung. Doctor. He should. You can't sue for that, huh? No.

Yeah, you can. That's malpractice. Yeah, he probably did. There you can't sue. Did you say? You think he did? Yeah. Yes.

Damn. Cost him a starting job? That's crazy. And potentially cost him because he was a, he was a free agent. So it potentially cost him greater earnings. Right. Right. But we won't get it.

We won't get it that. Yeah. Okay, Onged, you kind of redeem yourself. I remember you did say all that about Lamar. Damn. I hate to it. admit it. Thank you, sir. Thank you. You're one of the ones that will admit it. All the other ones, they won't admit it even though they know I said it because they got a narrative going. And so

we want to keep the narrative that Shannon Hayes Lamar, when all y'all have seen me stand up, y'all remember when Colin Kaepernick? Hmm? Y'all remember when George Floyd? Hmm? Hmm. When everybody else would shine away from it, how skisiness. up in FS1, let me stand on that platform and talk about it. Y'all forgot about that. But now all of a sudden, after I spoke so outgoing about it, now all of a sudden, I'm against my own people. Really? Really? So that's

what y'all want to get going. Wow. Of all the things y'all can say, I mean, I'm sure there are some things out there that you can say. Oh, man, he talked out. He makes me sick. He thinks he knows everything. I told you, I don't know everything. I know a little bit about everything. That's different. I like that. Come home.

But you know what it is? I'm going to be okay, though. Damn, he asked another question. Dan, Dan, actually, unbelievable, we're at this point. People make things up. Uncle's always one who says, Purdy is an elite. I said that the DO. D.O. tried, oh, he's elite. Has a quarterback, and this is what he said,

has a quarterback ever won the MVP, not being elite? I said, uh, yeah, Rich Gannon won the MVP. Was he elite? No. There's another one. Matt Ryan was the MVP. Was he elite?

Brian Syke won the MVP for the Bengals, the cardiac kids. No. Ken Anderson, no. So just because you win the MVP, that doesn't make you elite. We need to see a body of work. It's a body of work that makes you elite. Right. So this notion we've seen a lot of guys, great receivers have one great year.

Or running back. or DB and then what? So no, one season doesn't make you elite. I'm a firm believer in that. I'm going to stand on that. So I'm not saying Brock Purdy isn't a good player. I didn't even say that he couldn't become elite. I'm saying as I'm giving you my analysis of it, he's not elite.

Yeah. I mean, the body of work is what comes in a play. When we talk about elite players, regardless of position, I'm going to go for the owners of talking about receivers. Receivers are elite. You can do it your first year? But can you do it when they know what's coming? Can you do a year two?

Can you do it the third year? Can you do it when they game planning to stop in you and you still get it going? Yeah. Like that's when you know you elite. Yes. Yes. When the deep coordinator get up there and they break it down

and they circle. Now we got to watch 85 now. Right, right. He's great in transition. He can get in and out of breaks. He's tremendous run out of the catch. Now, he ain't going to block that much back. So, you know, I'm trying to rough him up in the blocking game

and the running game and try to push him into the pile. But, you know, when you're explaining a receiver, you explain it. Okay, he'll go over the middle. He's tough. He's not the most physically gifted guy. But he will catch. He's tough in traffic. He's tremendous transitioning.

Getting in and out of break is what his specialty is. He has great hands and he's tremendous run out of the catch. Yeah, he got a little scoot in him now. He got a little scoom. So that's, I mean, that's how we look at it. Same thing, we look at a DB. Okay, he's very handy. We can get, I mean, you know, hey, he's, he's strong.

He's long arm. Yeah. He's going to try to ride you. So you're going to have to, you know, we're going to start, we're going to throw some balls at him. We're going to double move him because he will bite. He aggressive. Yeah. And if somebody's like, oh, he wants to sit on routes, okay, we're going to, hey, this is not about, we don't care if we catch it.

We just want to know we will throw this over your head. Yeah, yeah. We just want to plant that seed. Right in his mind. Make you think twice about sit next time. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. TJ de Stunner said, man,

I got, I got my uncle that La Portier from Christmas. He took one sip and now he's stepping in in the name of love all day. Yep. I ain't going to think, but okay. Hey, TJ, I really appreciate it, man. Thank you for the support. Mr. Sharp said, Ocho, my incredible wife got me 85 cigar gift card.

Should I get the boy Vita or the El Petron to go with my L-Portier cognac for New Year? Yeah, get that boy Vita. Get that boy Vita, man. It represents obviously the good life for a reason. When you smoke it, you're going to enjoy it. It's very smooth. If you're not an experienced cigar smoker, obviously, it's for the novice, smooth, not too spicy. You mean novice?

Novis. I'm sorry. Yeah. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. You got me on my pronunciation. You've been drinking tonight? You're on the Portier?

Yeah, I just my little red bull real quick. I'm trying to stay up. I got to fight it. I got a fight at 5 a.m. So I'm trying to make sure I stay up. Okay. It's not too spicy. It's not too peppery.

It's very smooth. If you're not a connoisseur of cigar. So you're going to enjoy it. Enjoy it. Ben said, will you give Baker any praise? 3,500 plus yards, 26 touchdown, 8 of reception, 96.2 QBR. Baker may feel it's played really well.

I think Baker needs to be the starting quarterback moving forward for the Tampa Bay Buckingneers. Long term. long-term deal. He has a great connection. Now, I don't know what's going to happen with Mike Evans. Mike Evans was very frustrated because he wanted a long-term deal at the beginning of the season. It didn't get worked out.

You know how they play games, now. Mike Evans is having the best, Mike Evans might be having the best career of his best season of his career. And he couldn't pick the better time to have it. But the thing, oh, Joe, you know how I get. You start to get to be 30. They think you can't play no more. They're going to play with you every time. They're going to play with you every time.

Listen, that's the nature of the business. not only are they going to play with you when you hit 30, you know what they also do? They also find a way to work you out the system. The opportunities for some reason, all of a sudden you hit 30, the opportunity starts to decrease. What the hell is going on?

I was the focal point of the offense. Now, if you look at across the league for years of all the great receivers that have never gotten hurt, just notice how the opportunities decrease and the first thing they come and say to you at the end of the season where you know your production is starting not to look the same. It seemed like you lost step. You ain't never lost a step. Yeah, I know them targets too.

I know them targets did come away like it was good. Exactly. And they do it every time. But this is what they do to you, Ocho. They said, you know, you're kind of getting a little older and you're not making the plays you once did. We were thinking about reducing your salary. I said, oh, but y'all want to reduce my salary,

but y'all want me to make the plays like I did when y'all are playing me a lot of money. Now, you didn't make it going to make sense, Ocho. So you won't cut my pay, but I need you to make them same plays. Oh, okay. Listen, hey, boy, the business is a dirty game there. It's a dirty game. And they love to play it.

And they play it very well and how you think, they listen, if you don't understand the game, they have you thinking it's something wrong with you. Yes. Yeah. I mean, I had a home boy. He told, hey, they wouldn't give, they wouldn't give him a contract extension.

He said, for what you're paying me, I'm going to get all. That's the kind of work I'm going to give you. Oh. They ended up trading it. And they traded them. Yeah, they got to. He said y'all pay me $500,000.

I make $500,000 worth of plays. I don't care you get y'all no million dollar with the place. Will y'all give me half a million? Shannon, the thing that makes Raven fans upset is the fact that when Lamar plays great, analyst, still. What does analysts say me? What makes you upset with me? I'm me.

I'm Shannon Sharp. There are probably a lot of other analysts that analyze. But when you say other analysts, talk to them. I ain't got no problem. If I said something, if I misspoke, I'll own up to that. Y'all know me by now.

When I'm wrong, I ain't got no problem. I've never been too big. I've never been too prideful. I've never been too great to say, I'm sorry, I was wrong. But y'all got to miss me with other analysts. What did I say? If it's something that I said that I misspoke or I was wrong about,

okay, I can live with that, especially when you said the Ravens aren't getting their money's worth. You thought they was getting the money. Listen, when we ask a question, you do realize it's on a game-to-game basis. So you think Purdy, based on tonight, you think Purdy should get a $40 million contract?

Because if you just looking at it like that, okay, fine, we take it game-to-game. Right. Lamar is playing, they won nine of the 10. Of their first six games, how many did they went out of their first six games? how many did they went out of the first six? I mean, that's the thing that you have to look at Ocho

is that when Lamar didn't play well against the Steelers, right, it was the first six. When he didn't play well against the Steelers, they lost the game. He had a fumble, he threw a pick in the end zone. I said, Lamar threw a pick in the end zone. He fumbled a ball. They had a lead. Oh, why you didn't say that about my homes?

Because my homes didn't do that. You see, it's always like, you critique it one player, well, what about that player? Okay? When that is my time to critique, because you do realize, like, Ocho and I, like, when we come on here, we could talk about whatever we want to. But when I go on ESPN, I'll talk about what we talk about.

That's not my show. Right. This is our show. This is Uncle Ocho's show. So we get to talk about it. But if I talk about it and I don't say what you want me to say or you don't like what I say, then I'm a hate. Well, I'm sure at some point in time

that people thought I hated on Peyton. They thought I hated on Rogers. They thought I hated on Brady. They don't thought I hated on everybody. Wait, did you say anything bad about me when I played? I'm sure I did. I can't remember. Ocho, you got real.

Hey, chat. Y'all looked at all, chat. Let me know if Unc said something, so we could address that. Yeah, I'll probably say something about the penalty you was getting for a celebration. Oh, that it was worth it. That was worth it.

Oh Joe, you got to realize, man. You've been retired. You've been retired a decade, bro. I ain't been retired. What did you talk about? No, I haven't. When you, where were your last game?

2014. Somebody tell them that's a decade. 14, 15, 16, 17, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 22, 23. I'm just playing. I'm just playing. Listen, I've been, I've been retired, what, maybe 12, 12, 13 years? The last time you played was 2012, which is 12 years.

It was? Yes. For real? Yeah. I just feel like I just played like two weeks ago. I don't know what it feels like. I'm just saying how I feel. It feels like I just played. It feels like I'm not too far removed from the game.

Yeah. You are. You are far removed. You don't feel like it, though. I can still play, though. Highlight Creation One said, does two have a chance to win for the MVP if he beats Lamar Jackson and the Baltimore Ravens?

on the road next week and get the number one seat. That's a good question. That's a great question, especially with the way Lamar looked against the 49ers, what happened if two and that offense comes in and does what the 49ers couldn't do offensively. Well, you said, that's a great question.

Well, you told me ain't no way Lamar Jackson going to look like Brock Purdy did tonight, so that's a moot point. Oh, yeah, you're right. I mean, that's why I didn't say, that's why I didn't say Lamar Jackson to have a game like that. That's why I say if the offense, if the, the, the, the, the, the offense offense can do what Brock Purdy didn't do against the,

well, first of all, they're not going to get that opportunity without those turnovers. Yeah, yeah, you're right. So you have, you have the fact that you have the fact that it also. But, uh, right. The Raiders get to win today, uh, on the road, uh, the Ravens get the win on the road. The Eagles were the only home team that won on Christmas Day. All the other, all the other home teams takes the defeat. Patrick Wooler,

Willie, Willie said, Uncinoch, Merry Christmas, a day one. Thank you, Patrick. Niders are 1 in 3 against the AFC North this year.

What's in the ward in that division since y'all both played there? And what's disrespectful with the title, game manager? Because people, let me take the first quick, let me take the last part first. Because when people say game manager,

it's almost like they're saying they're winning in spite of you. that you're not asked to do anything. You just manage. Or not do much. It's kind of like you're a game manager. It's almost like a manager. You ain't pitching.

You ain't hitting. You ain't catching the ball. So what are you actually doing? So they're saying the quarterback, you're limited in what you're asked to do. And so I'm sure the quarterbacks, the guys that get called game manager, they view it as disrespectful.

Absolutely. So when they call Alex Smith, the game manager, when he played with the Chiefs, do you think that was disrespectful for him? They called him, yes. Look, I called him check down Alex. Because think about, think about the Ocho. Think about the numbers that they were putting up. And they still moved heaven and earth.

They traded up 17 spots to get Patrick Mahomes. Right. Right. Because Andy believed this offense could go to another level if they had a guy with a stronger arm and that was willing to take risk. And we see, like I said, Travis Kelsey was getting a thousand yards of season Tyreek was Tyreek

now Tyreek laid a block blossom and became a true wide receiver and not a gadget guy because he could run the entire route tree so that's the difference

and it's like so they view it as as it's kind of like a wide receiver what do they call most white guys they call possession bro

that's a good one they call them a possession receiver Hey, whoa, whoa. Well, Steve Larger was a possession receiver, and he retired with the most catches in the most yard at the top in the NFL history.

Mm-hmm. So, but you said, I don't know, it's not, there's nothing in the water. It's nothing in the water. The AFC North is a physical team. Very. You look at the turnovers.

Brock Purdy had three. Didn't he have like two or three against Cleveland? He had a couple, if I'm not mistaken, they had a couple against Cincinnati. Turn the ball over. I don't care. I don't care how great you are because I've said it before.

When you turn the ball, if you're a better football team, if you're here and Team B is here, you turn the ball over whether you go down or you raise them up. You bring them on your level, Ocho. So now, and the more you turn it over, the more you go and look at the separation.

You see what that goes? And that's what happened. and now you look, see, when you play Cleveland, you know, you missed a field goal that would, I think, won the game or even tied the game. You turned the ball over against the Ravens, a team that's basically on your level, you look like you look tonight.

They run away with the game. That's the difference. Go ahead, what's your takeaway? What do you think happened to the AFC North, why they won three against the AFC North, and why do quarterbacks view game manager as disrespectful? Well, I think just like you said, when you are a game management at the quarterback position, I heard Cam actually say that too. It is they don't ask much of you.

They don't ask you to do much. They ask you to facilitate the ball. They take what you see. They ask you not to take the chances that most would take, where they allow you, depending on your skill set and your talent level and your in your arm, your arm talent. Then those are players that they ask to take those chances. You know, I think those that are game managers are not minimized, but their skill set is not up to par as opposed to those who have the armed talent to do more offensively. I don't really see it as a disrespectful thing because if you are a game manager,

you're just not losing the game or making the mistakes that other other quarterbacks make. And you always have you, you always give you, you always give your team. How is that a bad? I don't see why it's bad thing. Because they're saying, don't you F the game up. Because we're not going to put you in a situation where we allow you to take risk. So don't you take risk on your own. We're going to run the football.

We're going to make it real easy for you. Okay. We're going to call this coverage. We're going to call this play. We think it's going to be this coverage. Go there with the football. Oh, like, Patrick, you're like, okay, Pat, go do what you do. Oh, whatever you want.

Okay, Brady. Go do what you do. Okay, Payton, well, you know Peyton calling his own game anyway. His own plays. guys like that Joe Burrow, guys like that, that you're like, okay. But there are times that you need to manage the game. Even the greats have been game managers at one point in time or no. But it's knowing when to do it.

It's knowing when to do it. Oh, this is a type of game. Oh, I see what type of game. This is going to be. This is a game that could possibly be 14, 13, 13, 13, 10. I can't take the unnecessary risk. I can't put our defense in harm's weight. It's knowing.

So I agree with you. Faith donated $200, Haucho and Shannon Iran. Damn, by 200? She says by 20, by 2050, the net worth of African Americans is predicted to be, it's addicted to be zero.

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Man, by 20, 20, 253. I think, hold on. I think I saw somewhere, you can look this up as, that I saw the average black net worth

is 17,000, while the average white net worth is 171,000. Hmm. You think that's true? And when they do these, when they do these statistics, how many people do they,

how do they even do these statistics anyway? I always thought about that. What does the theory come from in just? Sometimes they're surveys. Sometimes they're questionnaires, their brochures. They get the census report. Think about this. When it comes to surveys and brochures and all this stuff,

when the last time somebody comes to you with a survey and you actually sat there and filled it out. Oh, Cho. But you know, Ocho. Exactly. That's why. You know the IRS, know how much you make, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, but you really think it comes from the IRS and would you?

Hey, look here. I don't trust nobody. All right. You're right. Average black household, 44,900. Average white, 285. Yeah. Huh?

Is that really the difference? Asian is 536. So you got black at 44.9, white 236, Asian 535. I wonder why that is. Because a lot of times those two other demographics, they come up, they come to have ideas and create things that make money. Black people spend money. somebody created that Louis Vuitton

that the black person buys but he ain't got no money to put in it he or she doesn't have money to put in it you see the difference come on that to each his own yeah that's a whole that's a whole other discussion that's a whole other discussion

Hispanic is 61 so we're the lowest 449, 61 for Hispanic 242 would you say 285 for whites, 535 for Asian. I mean, well, I'm not going to say that because obviously me being the financial rule that I am. We on social media.

I kind of knew that. Who on social media flashing the big old files of money? Who got the money held up to their here? The Rappas? Who pretending they're getting on? Who pretending they're getting on the Jets? I ain't tell you. That's your money.

I don't tell anybody how to spend their money. You earn it, you do with it as you choose. because have I flown private yet? Yes. You got that money. I ain't got no money, Ocho. I ain't got nobody. But I'm going to work my ass.

I'm going to get it. If it's out there, I saw, listen, once I saw the U.S. government print money during the pandemic, okay. So y'all got a surplus of it. Because if you don't have enough, guess what? You'll print some more.

Yeah, what's the list? It's out there. It's out there. Let me find a number right now. my niche. Let me find something that I can do that I can make money from legally. It's enough for everybody. Yes. Yes. It's enough for everybody. And I'm willing to work and put the effort in. That's what I'm willing to do. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal, but encouraged. It's the enhanced

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Listen to the 1021 podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Alkeno, Merry Christmas, love the show. I'm curious to know which training camp was the most challenging to adjust to college of the NFL. man, the NFL is that they just put so much on your plane. It's just like, and you got to get it. Because once we go install, ain't no, hey, you go install Monday, install Tuesday, install Wednesday, install Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday before you go back to Monday. So if you don't get Monday, we're on the Tuesday.

If you didn't get Tuesday, now you're behind on Monday and Tuesday, we're on the Wednesday. So it's more of a mental game. in college, the three-hour practices, you young, too. You young. You run all day. I don't know what the college. I mean, think about it,

oh, Joe. I went to college down there 40 years ago, but the playbook, the playbook wasn't as complex and complicated like it is now. I mean, I'm sure some of these college playbooks is off the chart. But, you know, we was out there

practice doing training camp. in college, we thought there probably about six hours a day. Thud. Well, there ain't no thud. We were tackling. We were tackling. And even in the NFL early on, I mean, we tackled. We put people on the ground.

It wasn't no, oh, just wrap him up. Uh-uh, put his ass on the dirt. Yeah. And so, I think that for me, Ocho, the NFL is more of a mental. Because, man, they own you. Mistakes. Mistakes cost people jobs. Because, I mean, you know,

especially during training camp. People get cut. They're cutting you. People get cut. They cutting you. It ain't okay. Look, if I'm on scholarship, they got to keep it for at least one year.

They ain't hard working in the field. They don't have to keep you. No. And I had a coach, our coach used to say that. This ain't college, son. We don't have to keep you. Ooh.

You don't? No. Mm-hmm. No, we don't. So you understand, you understand very early on that the NFL is an absolute business. And they're going to keep the players that they think can help them win or in the future. Like, you know what, with a little season, I think this kid can be good. He's going to be all right.

I believe, I believe that's why they kept me. Yeah, I play, I was well so I could play all the special teams. I was a very good blocker because I was big, a big wide receiver. But, you know, Dan, I mean, Dan Reeves, coach. he rested. So he told me, he said, son, you're too big, too fast, too strong, not to make a living in the NFL. So, help me around. Hey, I'm playing, Ocho, we play in some wide receiver. Hey, I'm Tim Brown. I'm, I'm, I'm, hey, I want to go with the ball going. Who, hey, were you scouting, scout team?

Oh, you know, hey, Ocho, you don't, they hold that thing up and say, hey. But they'll hold the sheet up. Yeah. Oh, Joe, you see that right there? That's you. Hey, let me get that jersey. Let me get that jersey. You don't know what to do. Let me get that jersey. Let me get that jersey.

Taking out, taking all the scout G reps. Tide in. Hey, I'm going to tie in. If they got a tight end like a J. Novichick, a starving. Marvin Cook used to play for the New England Patriots. But if they had a tie in, I'm cooking. Oh, so I'm cooking.

Yeah. And Wade, the defensive coordinator said, don't worry about it. They tied in can't move like that. He won't be open like that. I'm cooking, though. Right. I'm cooking. So wave, he blow the whistle.

He said, Dan, put his ass in the game and see if they can cover him because we can't. Right. Right. Next week, they move in the tight end. I'm in the game. Ain't look back. Ain't look back, Ocho. But I would cut it.

I would cook it out of the Ocho and talking to. Can't check me. Can't check me. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Oh, they take a cheap shot.

I said, oh, okay. I'm talking. I'm talking, Ocho. I'm going to go. Oh, I'm going. Yeah. Spiking the ball, putting the ball in the wood. Man, hey.

Man, man, I know Mike would, but then, you know, Dan didn't really care. He's like, okay, okay, that's, that's enough. I said, no, I'm a coached. Look, I ain't talking to me. Yeah. I remembered everyone because, oh, they would count, like, blocking because Ocho at that point in time, I'm probably like 2115.

I don't lost 12 pounds because I was like 22, So now I'm 215 playing tight in the NFL. Feeling good. Feeling good. But Ocho, man, they throwing me like a rag dog. I said, okay. Guess what happened come one-on-one? I said, now who won some of this smoke?

Who won't this now? Yeah. Right, right, right, right. Getting up out of there. Touchdown, hold the ball up. I got the ball back in their face. They reach it for it. Ocho, I was a stone cold food with it.

Oh, yeah. You had to get a back. Michael 9-216-7. harder task in your prime. Stopper, Renardo, Messi from scoring a penalty kick, stopping MJ from score to basket, tackling Barry Sanders, or getting a hit off Randy Johnson.

First of all. That's a good list of difficult, difficult feats to do. Name the person that you ever saw tackle Barry one-on-one. Nobody? That was going to be my answer anyway. That was going to be my answer anyway. Yeah, you're not stopping no. In the open field?

you got no chance. At all. You couldn't tackle the man on the phone booth. How to hell would the... In the middle of the field, you think... I ain't never seen nobody come to balance like that and get up and get up out of it out. Red, get a hit off Randy Johnson, 95-mile-dow slatter.

That's not happening either. You're not tackling Barry in the open field, stopping the MJ from scoring a bucket. Well, he might miss the bucket. He might miss... I mean, he might miss it. But Ocho, Randy Johnson, six foot, ten and a half. Now, he left it.

So that ball, you ain't hitting that. How many people, you got to think about it. Professional hitters ain't hitting it. Don't even hit that. And first of all, that ball, by the time you swing the back, the catcher throwing it back to the pitch. To the pitch of. Because all you hear, pop, you swing.

bro, it's in the globe. Honestly, I probably say, I probably... That's tough. I've talked to a lot of guys that play broke. I talk to prime. I talk to bowl. Brian Jordan, they say the hardest thing to do. Now, Brian Jordan played safety.

Hit a baseball. Oh, yeah, most definitely. Most definitely. Do you know the percentage, the percentage for sluggers or Hall of Famers that have made it into the, into the, Baseball Hall of Fame, how low the percentage is. Oh, Joe. You know how hard it is?

You know how hard he hit the baseball? Just imagine, if you caught three out of ten passes that they threw to you, they throw your ass up by the lead. If you made three of the ten shots, I ain't talking about three, threes. I'm talking about regular shots. They get your ass up out of the lead. If you hit a baseball three out of ten times, you go into the Hall of Fame. Hall of Fame.

There you go. I put it in context for you. Yeah, that's crazy. because any any other sport, three or ten, you're going to be at home on the couch. Luca had a 50 piece in the Mavs win. Man, Luca.

Hey, how come, I know I don't watch basketball much, but how come it looked like he'd be moving in slow motion and still be cooking people? Because he won't let you speed him up. He kind of like Labr. His moves are very, it's herky jerky, very methodical.

Yeah, yeah. It ain't quick, like, you know, Kyrie is like, it's quick. Handles and. within tent. I don't know. It's weird. And his moves be working.

Do they? He's the second fastest scored 10,000 points since Michael Jordan. I don't know. Something right. And the league just better hope. He does just what he's doing.

That if he ever took training, I'm talking about training serious and got in shape. Right. You don't think he's in shape? Not the way he should be. Okay, I see what you mean. I see what you mean.

But here's the thing, like you said, look at the success. The man just dropped a 50 piece. Mm-hmm. When you have that level of success, Ocho, right. How do you say, well, this working from it. It's like a man like drinking. He drinks before the game.

And he's like, man, if you didn't drink, he's like, but I just run for 200. Right. I just dropped 45. Why? I mean, why would I need to, why would I need to stop? That's, that's the hard thing. I was, I wasn't like that, Ocho. I was willing to try something.

I mean, like, it might help. I'm gonna try it. Right. If it can help me get better legally, I'm only definitely. Mr. 504 donated $100. He said, my guts tells me the Ravens will play for the AMC championship. However, my question is,

this. Who's the toughest person to block? Ocho, who's your toughest corner to compete against? Man, dude, think about it. I'm 228. I got to try to block. Reggie, Bruce Mill, Michael Strayhand. Come on, man. Well, you had your hands for it. Man, give me a corner. Give me a safety. Let me whip his ass. I get down to them flinging me out the way. I mean, and now they don't even really put the backers on the ball. Every once in a while, you'll see them line to Sam on the ball. Right now, mainly, I'm doing, giving a little football one-on-one, they play what we call an overfront. An overfront is four down linemen. And tackle, tackle, end. An underfront is what we call, they have four down linemen and a linebacker on the ball. That's what we call

an underfront. Over, four-down linemen, just as down-linemen, Sam, Will, Mike. off the ball, a 43 defense, under what we call it 25 front. Now you go to a 34 defense is what the Pittsburgh Steelers play. Two backers, salmon wheel on the ball, three down linemen, a nose, and two D-Eans. And now you got Mike and plug. So three, four, two linebackers, three down linemen, Mike plug, under front, four-down linemen, linebacker on the ball, over front. four down lineland.

And so it was a combination. 3-4 used to be really popular. The Steelers, I've never known the Steelers not to have a 3-4 defense. But there are a lot of underfronts. Kansas City played the underfront a lot. And then they moved exclusively to a 43 defense and had DT with his hand in the dirt. But good thing I have to block. See, I look at guys.

that were in my division. Because I didn't see Brucey a lot. I didn't see Stray a lot. I think I only played against Strait, played against him in the Super Bowl. And I think one other time, I think we played him in 98. But Strait was a hell-raiser, man.

What? Straight was a hell, man, man, they're strong, long ass on. Strong as strong as hell. And, man, look here. And he's set the edge now. And he ain't going to let you hook him. You ain't going to reach him now. Yeah, he's going to stay outside.

Yeah, man. He could turn you. Yeah, man. Hey, prop. Good thing, they didn't never think I was going to be blocking them when I was over there. They always thought it's a past.

He's sitting like, you know, they call that, he's sitting like, yeah, you're right. I'm out, I'm out like a scout on a new route. Yeah. Hey, handling tackles. The hardest to block. I'll say, I'll say, Reggie, rest of soul.

You know, the funny thing, this is funny. Sometimes, I mean, for me, those that are difficult to block, I didn't even have to block them. You know, all you got to do is just take, take, you know, what I'm just saying. All you got to do is and just run them off.

I ain't got to waste no energy. And I run them, and I run them clear, I'm talking about clear off. Now they could just turn back and I'm like, oh, they made the tackle. You know, I was in shape, shape.

You know, I run 10, 15 yards just for the hell of it. Just for, just for the hell of it, just because I'm in, in tip top, in tip top shape and not have to touch a soul. And if anybody going to make the tackle, is a safety coming from way, way deep that he's going to have to come down here and make it, but McCorn are not going to make it.

You know, I ain't want to waste no energy sitting there, you know, wrestling with you and trying to show who been in the waiting room, for what? You know what I used to like, Ocho? When I had that safety and I push up and I see that safety come down the alley. And you go crack him because he don't see you coming

because his eyes in the back field? But you can't do that now. You know you can't do that. No, no, no, no. No, you can't do that. do that. If anything, you just get in the way and put your arms up like this. That's what Armile St. Brown did. That's what he got it because he tried to crack. You know, he pushed up and then you come down on the safety that's looking to feel the alley.

He didn't even hit him all. He didn't even hit him. He just dumped him up a little bit. Just dumped him up a little bit. And they still found him for 47,000. A linebacker, the other thing against the Colts, he hit a, he hit a running back. The Colts played the Falcons. Yeah. He had a running back on the sideline and they threw an unnecessary roughness on him. So he's running, the guy, and he's going like this, and he came, and he hit it. Unnecessary roughness and say, with helmet to helmet.

Well, how the hell I'm going to get it? Yeah, hey, that's what the game has come to. That's what the game has come to, so you're going to have to find a way to adapt. And like I said before, with the way to adapt, people are going to start changing up the way they tackle, and they're going to mess around and hurt themselves. Or be out of the league because they're going to be missing a bunch of tackles. Renato Hernandez says, Uncle Ocho,

do you guys have any supernatural stories? And, uh, were you on American Dad? Much love, happy holidays. Uh, your last question first. Yes, I was on American Dad and I was able to play myself. I was a bounty hunter. Sharpen in my spaghetti. I mean, sharpening my machete.

I about to eat some spaghetti. Okay. No, I don't have any supernatural stories. You, Ocho? What's supernatural? When you say supernatural, give me better context, man. Supernatural, like ghost stories or chairs moving or ghosts or? Oh, nah, nah, no, no, no.

I know one thing. I wish my mom and my grandma, you know, prove me wrong that there is an afterlife because ain't nobody gave me a sign. They ain't came back and hollied at me. Don't tell me you love me all the years you're on earth. And then when you transition, I don't even hear from you. Show me something. Let me know that there is life after death.

So I'm hoping at some point, you know, you can ask me this a few years from now or a few months from now and you ask me about that supernatural story again. And I can say, you know what? My mama and my grandma, they came to visit me. I asked for a sign and this was a sign that this showed me. My routine has always been the same. A lot of people say, well, if you pay attention, you'll see it. Well, I've been waiting.

You've been waiting for it. I've been waiting. My grandma passed in 2018. I've been waiting. My mama passed in 2021. I'm still waiting on something. My routine and what I do day to day has not changed. They said they're busy working for the lawyer.

They said they're busy working for the Lord. Well, I'm working for them too. They're busy. I'm working for them too. Just give me something. Let me know everything good. Jared says Shannon Ocho, how do you deal with self-doubt? I'm in college and I feel like I'm not smart enough,

but I also don't want to be filled with regret later in life. I need words of wisdom. You want to take off for her, Joe? John, I'm going to let you have that one because self-doubt that comes from within. And I ain't really nothing. I ain't let nothing on the outside make me feel crazy on the inside that would have me self-doubt myself. That's what I just said earlier about the opportunities with the business of the NFL, they had you thinking something wrong with you?

Same thing. College will have you question yourself. Relationships and dealing with women sometimes and things don't work out, that also had you quit. There are so many different factors. in life that would have you question yourself, you can't do that. Self-doubt, you can't allow anything

outside to deter how you feel about yourself. You got to keep going. You got to keep pushing by all means necessary. Ocho, I never had self-doubt like, could I, could I not do something?

Right. But when you get relieved, you're like, but damn, I had the second most catches in the NFL for a tight-in, had the second-most yards. Right. Damn. Then you go and, you know, you think you're doing good and you think you're getting

better in your craft at CBS and they say, well, you know, we want to move in a different direction. And then the same thing happened at Fox and you're like, well, damn. Everybody telling me I'm, everybody telling me I'm good. Everybody on the outside that's telling me that I'm good and that I'm, that I'm, like, man, you're the best at this. Man, you, babe. I'm talking about, I ain't just talking about people just talking.

I'm talking about NFL players that I've critiqued. I'm talking about NBA players that I have to teach. I'm talking about NBA coaches, NFL coaches, telling me I'm good. I'm the best at what I do. I mean, if y'all see that, why do you, why, why, why the networks? But my sister. And I told you, my sister is very religious.

She said, Shannon, God moved you. They didn't. He did. Because he wanted you to be somewhere better. She said, now, just trust in him. Just trust in him. I did. When I got let go from CBS, I took money out of my own pocket,

did a Facebook. It's called Milded Off, where I would go take two or three games. I would break it down. And I did it every week. It cost me about $13,000 to shoot it to get it edited. Put it up out of my own pocket. I ain't got no money coming in, Ocho. But I'm just putting it out there, let people know, hey, man.

You know, they lead comments, good. I like this commentary, blah, blah, blah, so forth and so on. Then I get an opportunity to go on first take. Did that, took off. Then with what transpired over the summer, like, man, just need an opportunity. Stephen had already put the bug in my hair. He's just like, look, he said, I don't do the hiring over here,

but I've already told my bosses. that I want you, big boy. Yeah. So now I'm like, man, that ain't no way. Ain't no way they're going to break. Me? Dr. Dave Roberts,

just so happened, I'm going to be in Atlanta. He's getting married. He's going to be in Atlanta. At the St. Regis, we go have breakfast. We done our research. We've done our homework.

We know we're getting. What you want to do? I said, man, I want to work. That's what I do. I work. That's my purpose. I work. Like, okay. So by this time, I'm trying to find an agency. I'm interviewing all the agencies because I want someone to represent me. I want to take my career. I want to see it now. I really want to see how far I can go. I want to push the envelope. I want to see what I can do. Got that resolved. Call my sister. I said, uh, I think I'm on. She said, just give God the glory. She, every time, every time she called me.

I talk to her every day. She said, Shannon, you say your prayers? You're thanking for the waking you up this morning. You know it's going to be all right, right? I said, yeah, it's going to be okay. She said, nah. She said, you don't sound like you think it's going to be okay. He moved it now.

He said, watch it. Watch it. Watch it work. Oh, Joe. I'm not to just saying, I'm not just saying this because I'm on ESPN. My mind is so at ease. My mind is so. at ease, so it ease.

I wake up every day like, man. And when I just look, when I went on, when I was like, okay, I got to find a new job. I got the podcast. I'm going to do that. CJ has been by my side. He's been producing club Shay Shay.

C.J., what you're going to say? I go, but Ash. So I like, because I already told him, once she started working with me at Fox, I said, you know, if I ever get my own show, you know, I'm going to take you. She's like, okay, I'll go. I mean, don't have a tab. Like, hold on.

She's like, I'll go. I'm like, okay. I'm like, I'm for real. She's like, okay. So transpired this summer. I don't know what I'm going to do. I hit up. I said, what you doing?

He's like, nothing more. Blah, blah, blah. I say, what you want to do? You want to come with me? She's like, yeah, you know where you're going? I say, no. She's like, okay. Okay.

Now, she had no idea what I was going to do because at this point in time, ESPN hadn't even happened. So even if I don't do ESPN, I'm going to have to pay her out of my pocket. So she put in her, you know, she's going to leave. What's your account number? I wired the money to her account because I want her to know, look, I said this is what I'm going to do. And even if it doesn't happen, you know monthly you're going to get money.

Right. nightcap is she does a lot of the legwork. I mean, we got the easy part, Ocho, because talking is what we do, analyzing the game is what we do. But the format and all the questions and how we're going to, you know, how are we going to formulate this?

That's her. That's her. And so now I look back, I say, you know what? My sister was right. My sister was right. But I've never had doubt Like when I played football,

Joe, I was like, I'm him. Yeah. I know I'm him. I mean, there ain't nobody do what I do and have fun doing it. But when you, it's like when everybody else is telling you,

but everybody else is not the bosses at these networks. So although I appreciate the praise and the adulation that you're giving me and you're saying I'm doing a good job, I need some jokers that got these suits and ties on. that's doing the hiring and the firing to believe that I'm doing a good job or I can do a good job. And so,

and I think that's what meant to, because I don't know how much, and I'm sure they probably look, but I'm on when Stephen A's on. So it's not like he gets an opportunity to see what I'm doing. I'm sure somebody people have told him about what I'm doing or how I'll say, how I'll go about my business. But he doesn't get a chance to watch,

nor do I get a chance to watch him because he's on when I'm on. Right. But, bro, you got to believe. Because if you don't believe in you, who else will? You've got to. And, I mean, it all comes down to the key, the key component, not allowing things on outside to deter you on how you feel. You can't.

Oh, Cho. They say your grandma gave your sign. It's real. Real your sign. Well, who, who's who said that? They say rail. They say rail. I like that.

This is a rail in. That's a good one. Yeah, that's a nice little foundation. Yeah, nice little structure. It's funny when that, you know what? I ain't, I ain't on, I ain't. DeLat said, my girl and I broke up a month. Hold on.

My girlfriend and I broke up. I asked to get back together. I slept with someone else while broken up, and she says she doesn't know if she can get over it. Any advice to change your mind? No. Absolutely. Bro, y'all broke it up.

You don't get the whole my feelings hostage. And she probably slept with someone else and didn't tell you. Yep, show did. Yes, she did. That's what they did. I've been in that very situation. I've been in the situation, D-Lat. Bro, we broke it.

We have broken up. So I'm just supposed to sit around. While you go do your thing, you are all in there. You out. Hmm. That's crazy game. Crazy game. Ask yourself this.

Why do you guys break up? Was it was it infidelity to begin with? Was it a lack of respect to begin with? Was it a family issue to begin with? Was it boredom? Yeah. I mean, you have to ask yourself, do you want to be with her or is it the thought of her?

Those are two different things now. do you really want to be with her or is it the thought of her or do you not you can't don't want to see somebody else with her? Yeah. You really don't want to see nobody else with her.

And you are, we've all been there. We've all been there. Yeah. Like I don't really, I don't really want to be with you but I'm going to apply a little pressure because I don't want to see nobody else with you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I remember me.

Yeah, I had a day like I had a, I was ahead of time like that back of 1993. I'd never forget. Yeah, the old bon quisha. I wonder what she doing. It's a long as long as in the long time, man. You probably waiting on you. What shit?

That's all he is. Too late now? It's too late. Too late now. Yeah, boy, I'm good. You good? Ridge Bear says, I plan on proposing to my girlfriend in the coming weeks.

What are the chances I get Unc and O. to attend the wedding, shooting my shot with you guys like I am with her. Much love. Don't invite us. Just give me the address and let me crash it. Because me, we're going to come through and we're going to sing Catalina Wine Mixer like they did in Stepbrothers. I'm ready.

I'm performing. We're going to perform. Since they won't let us sing on YouTube, we can't sing here. We're going to sing at the wedding. Yeah, you remember you remember Step Brothers when they sing? Yes. I remember Stepbrothers. Boats and holes.

Catalina White. Yeah, man. Shit, well, we're going to be at that bitch. Turned up. Why are you like crashing people weddings, don't you? Because it don't feel the same when they invite you. It ain't the same when they invite you when you show up.

It feels so much better when you just like just walking that bitch out of nowhere. Like you're not supposed to be there. Yeah, it did. It hit different. Yeah. It hit different like that. I don't know. All I know is this.

I'm trying to make it through the NBA season to the, NBA finals and I'm going to need me about six to eight weeks. I'm going somewhere. I'm getting off the grid. Wait, where you, where NBA is the end? The NBA finals probably like that Sunday, which will be around Father's Day. I mean, what

month? June. Oh, so that's, um, June. Oh, boy, you got a long, well, you got a long way to go, boy. Hey. Oh, you got a long way to go. We ain't even hit the New Year yet. Hey, but one person is going to know where I'm at. And he ain't going to be able to tell nobody. That's the man of stairs. Hey, that's the only person going to know why I'm at.

Wait, wait, hold on. Who you going on? You going by yourself? I ain't no telling. Did I just tell you, ain't nobody going to know? Yeah, I know nobody going to know where you're going to be at,

but I just want to know if it's going to be a plus one. You know, big daddy go tear up, big daddy go dead up, and big daddy will tear it up. That's all I'm going to say, old show. That's all I got for that. I'm going somewhere.

I don't know. I might go to Bobby. Go live on a, get on one of them over. Huts living one of them huts on the water. But that's fine, that's okay. That's a long, that's a long flight, right? And they said they got them old, they got them curtain around

the, round, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, the seat. Yeah. Yeah. My high, here I come. And I ain't talking about Colorado. It's nice over there. He ain't about Colorado. Yeah.

You, O.C., you ain't like me, the old Chosey. You all nice and you know. O'Shea? Who nice? I ain't nice. You ain't adventurous. Who ain't adventurous? Who ain't adventurous?

Who, too? Boy, you forgot. I touched it from north. You, hold on, now. You forgot now. I touch it from north to south. I make you hit every corner of the world. Oh, man.

No, you hit every corner and crevice. You on your own. You got me there now. You got me. You got me. I'm just, I'm just, I'm just reminded. to you. Maybe you forgot who I was. Yeah, I did. Yeah.

Don't forget my history now. Yes. The chat says, they have an unc tracker like they do for Elon and Taylor Swift playing. They ain't going to know. They ain't going to know where I go on Cho. They don't either, though. I'm ready. I just want to see you happy, man.

I want to see your smile. I just want to, like, you know, when you have a puzzle, like all the pieces to your puzzle are perfect. It's almost together. But there's one piece of that puzzle that really hasn't completed. It's not complete. That one piece, and that's the misses. You need a missus in your life, man.

You need a missus to complete everything, just complete the journey. You know, and one that understands all you have going on and understand the sacrifices that you are making based on the vision and the journey that you want. That's the thing, Ocho. Yeah, yeah. And I'm telling you. that's what I'm trying to find you, but you won't listen. You're hardheaded.

You're stubborn. Sometimes. Yeah, I know, I know you heard that before. I ain't, this ain't the first time. A, B, said, but we're going to get that up. How do you identify your purpose? If I was your son, what would you tell me? I'm the first in my family to break many cycles.

I need some guidance. I didn't tell my son anything. I allowed him to be what he wanted to be because at the end of the day, that's his life. I've lived my life. You've heard me say it before. I didn't want any of my, and I just. told him I told him I was talking to my daughter today. Her and I had a very hard to heart moment today.

She was kind of in her feelings about some things. And I just had to explain some things to her. So it was great. Is that I never wanted my kids, Ocho. My kids are a lot older than yours to get to a point in their life and say, Dad, I only did this because of you. That was probably my greatest fear. Because you know, you know how you do some,

Joe and you're like, I only did. I only came because you invited me. Well, I only did this because, no, no. That's a. Yeah. So in other words, you would have wasted 20, 25, 30 years of your life doing something that you didn't want to do only to appease your dad. Nah, nah, nah. And so that's what I told my son. You know, people like, your son didn't play sport. That wasn't what he wanted to do. That's what I wanted to do. That's what his uncle wanted to do. He wanted to go to school. Get a degree. There are a lot of things.

He wanted to be a pharmacy. He wanted to do something with medicine. He did that. And, you know, he found his mate and he got married. Yeah. Got my grandson. And he's happy. I think he's happier right now than had he done something that I wanted him to do.

Right. So yeah, I'm kind of the same way with my kids. Obviously, my son, with both of my sons, I would never force the issue. I'm not one of those that try to live vicariously through my kids. I'm a supportive dad. And whatever it is that you want to do, you can do. Whatever you choose to do, you can do. Obviously, anything that puts you in harm's way, I'm not really support that.

Oh, hell no. But I'm, yeah, I'm blessed you. whatever feat, whatever journey you take, I'm going to be with you 100 steps away. You don't have to play football. You know, if you want to play football, cool, that's fine and dandy. If you don't want to play football, whatever it is you have to do, understand in life, you're going to have to earn a living. You're going to have to do something.

You just can't do nothing. Now, you got to do something. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. You got to be passionate about something in life and have that same drive and that same worth ethic that I did to be successful at whatever it is that you choose to do. But whatever it may be, I'm all for it. I would never force.

And I think growing up when you have kids, you never want to force them to do something because when they get to an age where they can kind of be rebellious and not fight back literally, but like say, you know what, this ain't what I want to do. I don't want to do this because you force me to do it.

They tend to resent that and they grow up hating whatever sport that is that you're forced. on them because maybe you were successful at it, or maybe because you want to force them to do it because you know, you didn't make it, so you want to make sure they do. Yeah, I'll live your life through your kids.

And no, Joy, it's just not sports, anything. A partner, I've never looked. I tell my kids all the time, if you like them, I love them. Hell, I ain't gotta spend one night with them. You do. Right. So if that's who makes you happy, my son, hey, don't you put your hand, hey, you got a kid now.

That's not your child. You don't discipline her. You talk to her. You treat her with respect. I tell her the same thing. That's my son. I love him. I want you to treat him with respect.

My daughters, I say, hey, I ain't got, hey, if you love him, by all means, I don't care what he does. There's a, hey, don't you want your daughter? I want my daughter to be happy. If she finds somebody that makes 10 million

that makes her happy, I'm cool. She finds somebody that makes $50,000, as long as that $50,000, can support them, I'm good. Yeah. Because at the end of the day, I want my daughter to be loved because I know they love. My son, I want him to find somebody that loved him because I know he loves. So all that other stuff at the end of the day, if they find somebody that loves them, that's all I ask.

Bring me some, break and give me some grandkids. You see my son, my grandson got this. Look at it. That what I got. That's a t-shirt he got. Papa. He got a football up on his arm and everything. Yeah.

Yeah. KJ got that for his Papa. That would he go call me. I told him to say, well, my son said, Daddy, what you want him to call? He said, Dad, what you want him to call? You'll say, he can call me Papa or he can call me Papa Shake. Yeah.

Either one. I say, and when y'all come back, we're going to be at Magic. Eating chicken tenders. Magic. I'm ready. I'm ready. I'm ready for that. I want to see what I want to see what that. Oh, that's. Oh, oh, oh, look. Woo. Oh, magic already got it.

Just let me just give me the way. Just let me get like, toward the end, you know, let's get out, let's get out of January. Let's get out of the, uh, let's get out of the, uh, the football thing. Right. Let's get past the Sue Bowles who like Miller, March, the Miller of February, March. Right. Uh-huh.

I mean, I'm in there like swimwear. You know how that way? You see them girls on the IG, how that swimwear be fitting? That's how I'm going up in there. I'm going. I'm going. I got to see. I got to see what the food hit like and I want to be,

I want to use my peripheral vision as well. Okay? I want to see what the food look like. Oh. But I want to use my peripheral vision as well. Yeah. All right now. Stay with me now.

Hey. Oh, Joe, you know what I'm. push the glass up like that right now. When he pushed the glass up like that? Yeah. Oh, he's all something. He's all something. I'll get him chicken tilled the fine can't fish strips.

Nuggets. Oh. That's what I'm going to get. Magic City. That's going to be nice. That's your real nice. I can see it now. Man.

I can see it now. Coming to the stage. Coco. Woo! Oh. I bet she's fine too. Hey, Coco. You know, they're gonna get a car day.

You know, they got the car name, the Ferrari. Yeah. Yeah. What's up, Lexus? I like it. I like it. I got to practice throwing them a ones. You throw your ones?

I ain't been there so long. I ain't been there so long, man. It's been a while. Okay, I got, I got, I got to practice. I got to practice. You know, I know, I know you got to, you got to, you got to, you got to lick your. Your finger. I mean, you know, Ocho, you know, I might have to, you know, might have to save up.

I might have to make a hail on them, throw some coins. You know, it'll be hailing in the club too, it's raining. Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, I can't compete. I can't compete. I can't compete with that. I probably get $100 in one. And I throw $5 out of time and make it look like it's a lot.

But ain't going to, you got to, you got to throw in. No, we got to, we got to spend at least. We got to spend at least five between us. Five who? Five bands. Band, oh, but I'm sorry, my bad. I almost, you know, God forgive me. I almost backslid.

Well, you said, I gotta spend five band. No, between us, 25 apiece. Oh, oh, okay. Okay, I could do that. I could do that. I could do that. I thought you were saying we gonna, we gotta spend five a piece.

No, you know, I'm all about that. I'm gonna keep on tip in Mississippi. Come on, come on now. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. I could do, I could do 25. I could do 25. I can do that. I could do that.

It ain't no pressure. Ain't no pressure. I can do, I could do 12. I could do 12, 5 and get 12. I could make real, give me 12. That's what's the call. What's the call? That's tied, you know.

Yeah. Yeah. I like that. I like that. Yeah. God damn. I know a thing will be nice, too. Coming to the stage.

Ocho, you recently tweeted saying, closed mouth, don't get fair. Shooting my shots again for, for photographing your wedding for free, I DM the missus on IG and Twitter. Yeah. Oh, I'm gonna hit and let her know. She might be in the chat, baby.

Baby, if you're in the chat, well, you know what? She ain't said now, so she probably ain't in here. But I'm going to let her know. You know what I want to ask you before I take any more questions? Ocho, what you get for? I don't control none of that.

What you get for Christmas? Before I answer, answer, what do you get? Boy, stop. Man, stop playing. Listen, and what did I tell you when you asked me, what can she get that I would really like? What's the first thing I said? I think you said perfume or cologne? Cologne?

No, no. I do it every day. I do it every day. No, that too, but what I smoke every day? Binh. Man, this woman bought me a brand new box of Daniel Marshall Cigars, man. 24-4-carried, yeah, 24-carat gold cigars. Wow.

A box of them things. What else? man got me some nice cologne got me some nice cologne got me some nice cologne my baby my baby my daughter got me a

McDonald's gift card with a thousand dollars on there man yeah yeah man oh listen I got the new McDonald's you seen the McDonald's ugs

uh-uh you didn't see the McDonald's I got to get you no I'm good I got, come on, I got to get you a pair McDonald's hugs. Like, ugh, like the ugly that the women be wearing in the mall?

I mean, not, uh, crocs, oh, I'm gonna say, you know, I'm old. You know, I'm old. You know, I'm old. You know, I'm old. I'd be mixing up the name of all type of stuff. I mean, name all type of stuff. But man, today, today was beautiful.

Today was beautiful. I really enjoyed it. Watching the faces, man, though, the faces of the kids when they light up. Obviously, they're older than that. You already know what you're getting. and just to see their faces light up like that, man. And French fry, watching French fry don't know what the hell going on.

She don't know what's going on, but she got her little present. She opened them up and she tearing off piece by piece. Like, girl, let me show you how you do this. You got to rip into that thing. What you're doing, man? So next year, I'm sure she'll probably get the hang of it. But I thought that's, I like Christmas time, man. My kids, they don't really ask for nothing throughout the year.

They don't really ask for nothing. And it just be small stuff. It would be small stuff. And I remember I tweeted out one of my daughter's lists and people were like, oh, my goodness, that's expensive. Man, listen, if you understood how well they're doing in school, how well they're doing in school. And when they're out of school, just the way they move and everything is, I don't want to take credit. I've done a good job. The moms have done a good job.

So when Christmas time come, I want to reward them with everything, you know, they ask for. That's a good show. Elijah Balthow, hey, Uncle, Ocho, we recently had to put our beloved pet chocolate lab down and it's really hurting my family, especially my father. Our dog was his little boy. How did you cope with the passing of your dog? Appreciate it. Okay, don't you, man, don't have me on here crying again like we did last time you were talking about dog.

It's tough. I ain't going to lie with you. It's tough. And you don't get over, you just deal with it better. With time, you know, you get to deal with it. But you spend so much time with him and you know, the thing is with me, Ocho, I've always said, and I've seen people keep dogs alive or animals alive for themselves and not for the animal. The animal's hurting.

He can't, he or she can't tell you it's hurting, but it's hurting, you know. Yeah. And so, you know. But man, it's tough, bro. It's going to take you, it's going to take you a while. It'll take you a while. You're going to cry because you're going to think about the time that, you know, how many times it met you at the door. and how excited it was to eat

and how excited it was you to pet it for you to pet it on its end. But as time passed, it gets a little easy for you to deal with. You don't get over it. I remember all my dogs. I remember all of them where I put them, where it was at, when I had them put down

and held them in my arm when I had the vet come over there and administer the solution. Yeah. Man, it's not easy. But I understand what you're going through, Elijah. Daniel Cayley, hey, Uncanotcha, what advice would you give to a man

finding the right woman to have kids with, the right traits in a woman or motherly personality traits. Merry Christmas. Bro, that's something only you know. Yep, that's it. You know, mine, I just look for athletic ability. Can you run, jump, how high? Let me see your ankles.

You know what I like to do? This is so funny. With real, when me and Real first met, obviously, you know, the first date had to be something where I had to see. she had any type of athleticism. And she has a background being in the army, you know, being a paratrooper,

obviously knowing how to, how to shoot a gun, and ready for war and all this training that she did. So since you like that, and you're supposed to be a shooter like that, let's go play paintball. Oh, you go. Yeah, we went to play paintball one-on-one. We went to play paintball one-on-one,

and we did the course. And we tried to see who could win. She got you. I need to see you operate under pressure because they're going to come times in our relationship where they're going to be put in certain circumstances that are going to be similar to that of paintball. That was fun.

That was fun. How do you operate under pressure? Pyro Wedd-Pen said, can you give Ash a former shout-out? What's her name? She deserved public recognition from us to fans. If she's cool with it. She's not.

She does not. Man, look here. Anytime I'm taking a picture, I'm like, oh, hey, Jordan, take this picture. I'm like, where Ash go? Man, Ash, Ash on the plane,

Ash in the car, Ash doesn't go on to the bathroom. Look here. If you, if you see, you're not going to know Ash with me. Ash be walking like 15 steps ahead or 25 steps behind. And you think she's just like,

a passenger in the airport going. So she does not want any. She's over here sitting in the chair laughing. She's sitting there over here in the chair laughing. Ash, man, Ash does not want, she is, hey, she don't want any attention. She ain't getting, oh, the, oh, look here. The first thing with Jordan take a picture, did you get me?

Did you get me, Jordan? Let me see. I was just like, nah, I didn't get you, let me see. she's going to get she's going to get chorty cut that bitch out she ain't get no bitch of ash man but uh she's she's amazing she's she's unbelievable hard worker she's extremely dedicated uh um she's here today so it's jordan you know they got a little time off they didn't have to come as early as they normally do uh you didn't have to come to the house ash oh my good you did ash you did but you sleep tip you I ain't never seen nobody sleep like Ash.

You swear she's a child. I'm talking about she's, no, she can literally sleep 14 hours a day. 14 hours of the day. I mean, I'll call Ash sometime in a day. She's like, hello. I'm like, Ash is 1.30. You be knocked down.

She's like, how did you know I was sleep Ash? Everybody can tell me somebody, I woke you up. I'm like, bro. Like, dude, what's going? She's over there. I'm like, Ain't that much sleep in the world.

But no, she's unbelievable. She's unbelievable. A lot of the success that I've been able to enjoy that we've been able to enjoy with night camp is directly tied to Ash. So where are we at now with subs, Ash? Please make sure you hit that like button. Make sure you hit that subscribe button. We started at 544,000 subs.

Yeah. We just hit 548. I love y'all. I appreciate y'all. I truly do. Ocho, outside chat. You know what I go. What I say I go to?

600,000. 600K, right? 600K by the end of the year. I told you, I told you, man, we're going to, man, listen, man, we're going to surpass that. I told you that. I told you that when you mentioned it was the first time. I appreciate y'all. Sunday will be the first, right?

A Monday. Chat. I love y'all. Monday is the first. Monday is the first. So we got to try to get 56,000 subs between now and Sunday at midnight. Oh. Oh, 56,000?

You know, I'm holl at my partner. I'm holl at my partners. Man, we're going to get there. We're going to get down. Please make sure you hit that like button. Make sure you hit that subscribe button. We're now officially at 548,000 subs. Please make sure you subscribe to the podcast, the feed.

You can get it at nightcap podcast feed. You can also get it through the club, Shee Shea Feed. Thank you for supporting us. What we also have done, we've penned Shee by La Portier at the top of the chat, Christmas is gone, but you know what? Go ahead and get your bottle for New Year's, Valentine's Day, or President's Day for a special bottle for you or someone that you love. And your favorite uncle would greatly appreciate that. The Ravens do a demolition job on the 49ers, 3313.

They pick Brock Purdy off five times and score on seven straight possessions. They win 33 to 19. Who else? Kansas City lose. unable to secure the AFC West, 20 to 14 to the Raiders, two back-to-back possessions of a scooping score and a pick six, doom the chief. And right now there needs another victory in order to secure the division.

And then the Giants, see, I like doing the, hello. You like that little contraption, I'm going to get me one. Baby, if you in the chat, baby, I need one of them contrapes. Attraptions aren't using, please. Come on up here. Oh, Wi-Fi real slow right now. What was it, 33-25? The Giants win 33-25, right?

Because they won by 8. They won 33-25. Yep, 33-25. Jalen Hurst is the first quarterback to go back-to-back season with at least 20 touchdown passes and 10-touchdown rushing. He's also set an NFL record

for the most rushing touchdowns in a season by a quarterback with 15. So congratulations to the Ravens, went 3319. Congratulations to the Eagles, 3325, and the Raiders went on the road 2014 over the Chiefs.

And so with that being said, I'll see you again, a nightcap with Gil and, Shay, what are these? And then, you know, I don't do the retro. I don't do the retro.

I don't do the retro Bumblebees Do you know what this is Ojo What's you model? Give me 11s No 11 is a minute

I don't Man if it ain't joined ones I don't know man What number is that? That's a four Four Four and them Okay

So again Thank you for joining us For another episode of Nightcap Please make sure you hit that like button. Make sure you hit that subscribe button. We had, we hit a record of 43,000 in the chat tonight. Thank you for all for tuning in for joining us on your Christmas. We greatly appreciate that. Oh, Cho will be back Thursday night. I'll be back Wednesday night with Gil. Thank you again. Hopefully you had a very Merry Christmas, a joyous Christmas celebrated with family, friends,

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