The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Nightcap - Unc & Ocho react to Browns win over Jets, Broncos Benching Russell Wilson

Episode Date: December 29, 2023

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to the New York Jets squaring off against the Cleveland Browns on NFL Thursday Night Football, Sean Payton making headlines by benching Denver Broncos QB Russell Wilson, Lamar Jackson insisting the Baltimore Ravens are written off as underdogs in the AFC, the Green Bay Packers suspending CB Jaire Alexander for crashing the coin toss in their game against the Carolina Panthers and much more!   06:15 - Browns Beat The Jets 14:30 - Aaron Rodgers Wouldn’t Overcome Jets O-line Issues 23:00 - Flacco Better Than Watson? 25:00 - Russell Wilson Benched 27:00 - Players Shouldn’t Take Pay Cuts 38:30 - Where Could Russ Land? 55:30 - Potential QB’s For Broncos? 01:03:00 - Jaire Alexander Suspended By Packers 01:12:00 - Couples Sleeping In Separate Beds 01:18:15 - Lamar Wants The Ravens To Be Underdogs 01:36:30 - Favorite Denzel Movies 01:49:30 - Top 5 Actors/Actresses 02:02:00 - Devin Hester vs Dante Hall For Best Returner (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #Club #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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So go ahead and get you a, yeah, yeah, yo, I like that. I like that. Nice and smooth. You know what I'm going to do? What you're going to do? I ain't never had no alcohol before. Never in my life. I never had no alcohol before.

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God forgive me. I'm a drink, though, for the first time. I got you. Yeah, man. That's all right, Ocho. That's all right. I want to give the people some good news. nightcap

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All the support that you've given us over the first four months of a nightcap is greatly, greatly appreciated. And we want to thank you because without you, there is no nightcap Uncun Ocho or no nightcap, Uncunc and Gil. So thank you again. Yeah. Ocho, let's jump right into the ball game. The Browns beat, the Jets, 30 to 20. Man, I thought, Ocho, I thought, uh, and Joku would go get my record. He had four catches for a buck 13 in the first quarter.

Yeah. And I thought, oh, oh, man. Oh, man, he got me. He got me. And he cooled down substantially. He ended the game with six receptions, 134 yards on eight targets. But he had an outstanding game going. And Joe Flacco had it going again.

What he finished with? 19 or 29, 309, three touchdown number one interception. Considering, I mean, he cooled off substantial in the second half. He had 296 at the half. So he only had 13 yards in the second half. But they didn't need a whole lot. they ran the football, but it was a turnover. I think Ford Fumble, I think another guy got it punched out.

So give the Jets credit. But what the Jets have going on, Ocho, if they think Aaron Rogers is going to solve all the eels with what's going on with that team, they're fooling themselves. And they're setting him up for failure. Yeah, absolutely not. Listen, I've always said that you and I, we've going back and forth about Zach Wilson being at the helm and really not being able to do anything. and a lot of the chirping and a lot of the noise on the outside feels that if Aaron Roger was to come back, all of a sudden he would be the savior. If you understand the night, if you look at Trevor Simeon behind center, he had 1.9

seconds to throw the ball. 1.9 seconds. That's not enough time to do anything. By the time you catch it and take a step back, Ocho. Somebody's already in your face. So there's really nothing you can do. There are many woes and many problems that need to be addressed in the all season before Aaron Rogers even thinks about stepping.

behind center. But again, on the other flip side of things, I want to talk about the Browns. The Browns, obviously in playoff contention, making the playoff for the first time since 2020. But I don't like the fact that, I don't know, please help me understand. And you know this too, as well as me, as long as we play the game. Why do games like this, Joe Flacco is having the game of his life. Obviously, another 300-yard game almost, but he had 309. He had 296 at the half. But he had, he had, yeah, 296, two-something, whatever was at the half. But then we get into the second half and all of a sudden, the fanskin and whoever else is calling the plays,

they step off the gas all the way, all the way off the ground. If Chief, I call them Chief, if Cheek and Joko had a first half like that, why not continue? Why not continue that momentum? Why not continue what they were doing in the first half in the second half and had that carry over into the next game and then into the playoffs? That is great momentum for you.

your team. That is great confidence for your team, especially from an offender standpoint where the quarterback that's only been there for five weeks. Why come off the gas? I don't understand why team do that. It makes no sense. It does no show, but you know the thing is that, look, they got a decent running game. It's not what it would be had they had Nick Chubb and Ford can run the football. But I think the thing is that it's easy to say we should have stepped on it. But it costs the foul in the Super Bowl. remember when they should have been running the ball they still full speed of head and guess what it happened

incomplete incomplete Patriots get the ball you have a turnover they get the ball again and the next thing you know had you just run the football you could have just run the football three or four series and there wouldn't have been enough time but because you kept stopping the clock and you turn the ball over on a short field now you give a team an opportunity to get back in the ball game

so I understand and even though selfishly I would have liked to see and Joe Koo see what type of game he could have had. Had they kept going? Yeah. I understand Stefansky and his rationale and thinking

because you know what we're going to say. You let that team come back after you didn't have them down like that and you getting reckless with the ball, throwing it all over the place. When you got forward, you have Kareem Hunt. People are going to look at you like, what did you,

you just cost your team a playoff spot. Yeah, but you have to think about this, you have to think about how they plan defensively. If you only got 1.9 seconds to even, throw the ball. They were running the ball decent, really not, not really effective enough to even come back in this game. Why not continue to pour it on and pour it on? Do what that does for your team confidence and that team offensively, mentally to go on and win a game like that, even if it is in

New York Jets, that carries on to the next game. And what happens when it carries on to the next game, it carries right on over into the playoffs. How does it just get the touchdown? Flacko through a pick, ran it back. How did it get the field goal? fumble. Well, that was unfortunate, though. The dude tipped the ball. He was trying to throw it in the ground. Okay, you're right.

He should have threw it in the ground. He should have to put it in the ground. Hey, think about this. Remember what happened Monday night? How many of those balls got tipped that Brock Purdy got picked? Three of them. Okay, you're right. All three of them.

He had four in the first one in the end zone was clean. All the rest of them got popped up in the air. And you see it. Right. Okay. It's snowballs on you. I get what the fanskin said. And like I said, selfishly,

you and I, we see a Joe Flacco has $2.96 at the half. And you say, we step on the game. I mean, we keep the pedal to the metal. What could it have been? But then on the flip side, but then on the flip side. About 58, 58 at the rate they was going. Like, it didn't even look, it didn't even look like the Brown, just in general. When I think about the Brown's offense and what I saw tonight in that first half,

I'm like, who in the hell are they? With Noah Marry Cooper. With no America. With no coup. And they didn't miss a beat. They didn't miss a beat. I mean, he had long, Joe Flacco and Joku had a longer 43. Elijah Moore had a longer 24.

Ford had a longer 50. Atkins had a longer 28. So, I mean, there were deep shots. And we know Joe Flacko has a big time arm. And the one that he threw the four for the 50 yarder, he's rolling to his left. And he sides arm, and he sides arm it, side arms it. And we know Joe Flacco isn't known for his mobility. So for him to get out of arm's weight,

change arm angle and get the ball to Ford and let Ford do the rest. It just shows that this offense is really, really good. The defense was hunting tonight. But, I mean, what am I supposed to say? Ocho, I think you and I could have got a sack or at least you hit on the quarterback against that offensive line.

That offensive line good and terrible. It's tough. Do you think, you think, I hate to say this and I'm not going to say it because I know what it's like being on a losing team. You think they're giving up? No, they're not. They're just bad.

I mean, the offensive linemen, as big as they are, I looked at McCaugh-Becton. Brough, he's their best player. Without saying much. He's giving up 11 sides, most in the NFL, second-most penalty yard. Second-most penalty is called against. I mean, the dude can't block the sun out of his eyes,

and he's six, seven, three hundred and fifty pounds. Man, come on, he can't block the sun out of his eyes. You should, ain't no way you should be that big and that bad. And I get, that's Miles Garrett. But at some point in time, Miles Garrett ain't just fend to keep beating on me. I'm going to win some of these ballots.

I ain't say you got to win them all because Miles Gary is one of the top players in the league and he's played a premium. But at some point in time, damn, son. Yeah. I mean, I know what you mean.

But again, that is Miles Garrett. I mean, there are certain players when it comes to it, if you be consistently throughout the game, it's because you're playing against a premium player like a Miles Garrett, a T.J. Watt, or who else, one of the, one of the most of the brothers. I don't care if it's Miles Garrett, Michael Parsons, T.J. Watt, and whoever else

pulled up in the one. You not been to beat me every single play. I mean, at some point in time, Ocho, pride got to kick in, regardless of who you're lined up against. But listen, even think about this. Think about as prideful as he may be. as private as he wants to be, there's a skill set gap. No matter what you do in that game, that person across for you will always be better than you. But you got to win one.

Brian might kick it. You got to win one. Ocho, my brother was three years older to me. We fought all the time. I got me a couple of licks here. I got me a couple of years. Listen, you got your couple of licks because you win. Here's the thing.

That's all I'm saying. You might not win, but you got to stop me on a few plays. Okay. You're right. You're right. You're right. You're right. I like the pride time.

I like the pride thing because you are playing. If you're not playing for the jets, you are playing for the name on the back of that goddamn jersey. And you got to step up. I had a college coach said that when you go, when you go out, and he told him Bill Davis, my college coach at Savannah State. He said, do not recruit offensive linemen. He said, I don't ever want y'all to go recruit any offensive linemen.

He says, I want all defensive linemen. He said that we get defensive linemen and they can't play defense. We can move them to offensive linemen. line and they can play offense. He said because if you get an offensive lineman and he can't play, you got a big ass equipment manager on your hands. Oh, that's a good way.

That's what you got, Ocho. Because where can you move? Tell me where you can move an offensive lineman. He can't play defense because he doesn't have the mentality. Yeah. But then obviously there's a certain mentality that you have, you have to have to play opposite lines. That's why you have a defense, you move him over there.

Especially the black, yeah, especially the blind side. That listen, that's the most important position on the opposite line. The blind side of the. quarterback unless you left-handed, that's your money. That's your money, man. That's your chest piece. The most important chess piece. So you got to be able to play, you know, if you got to be nimble, you got to be agile, you got to be able to, I mean, you got to be able to dance on air. Hey, your footwork, man, your footwork got to be special. You got to be able to kick. You got to be able to kick and anchor down, that. That's why you put them boy dogs on the open side. That's why you

have those guys over there. That's why you see the Miles Garrants over there. That's what the, the open side, where you saw the Derek Thomas. LT mainly lined up on that side, but it didn't matter where LT lined up. This is why you know LT is the greatest defensive player because Joe Gibbs put an offense in just for him. The age back position was created. The extra tight end was created for Lawrence Taylor.

Right. And everybody in the NFC, he made two positions famous, the left tackle and the edge linebacker. Because everybody went and got them. If you couldn't block LT, you couldn't beat the Giants. So Minnesota, they went got to Gary Zimmerman And the 49ers

Witton got Steve Wallace And you go look at the team That went and got somebody Especially to deal with 56. The block LT and it ain't nobody succeeded. No. No. I mean, the Washington, you know what they were called. They're the commanders now.

But they got Joe Jacoby. They went and got they traded for Jimba Shait. I mean talking about two. And Jacoby, if I'm not mistaken, I think he's on the Hall of Fame ballot this year or he went in last year, but I think he's on the ballot this year. But you look at the teams and the NFC that went and got drafted or traded for premium left tackle because, hey, I think Jimbo covert, the Bears. I mean, you had to. There was no way around it. You had to deal with him.

Right. Right. And he wasn't a guy. And the thing is, you know, he's going to be on the edge. The difference between he and Reggie, I mean, Regis is turning the. the handle, he turned the handle on your center, on your guard, on your tackle, and he just did one of these open. And then when he found out it was open, you can wear him out all day.

So, but yeah, oh, at some point in time, you have to have a situation where the pride kicks in and says, I understand he's a far superior athlete than me, but I can't let this man beat me. I mean, there's 80,000 fans watching and there's another 10 million at home watching. And this man beat me every single play. every play. Matter of fact, listen,

I don't play the left tackle position. I don't know much about the left tackle position or playing office line at all. But when I think about it, if I can't beat him physically, if I can't beat him at his own game, then I got to beat him up here. If I can't beat him physically,

you got to be up here. I don't know, I don't really know how to explain what you can do at that position, but try to be two steps ahead. Two steps ahead of him. Try to envision what he might do. Try to beat him to the punch.

If it's cheating a little bit, if it's getting out to, if it's getting out to kick, getting out to off the, off the ball a little faster, kick it to a certain point, stabbing him, grabbing him, holding him, any goddamn thing, just do something. Because having 1.9 second to throw the ball in an NFL game where you're supposed to be one of the best in the world, it's unacceptable. It's unacceptable. And guess who gets to blame, the goddamn quarterback?

Me personally, I think, I don't think he's, athletic enough, his feet are quick enough to play that position. He's probably better suited for a guard or a right tackle. He seems to me more of a run guy because on that open side, that's where your premium athlete. That's where your Trent Williams reside. That's where you're big dogs. That's where you're Jonathan Ogden's and your Orlando Paces and your Anthony Munozis.

That's where those guys resided. And so you see mammoth of men that was slide. J.O. was a shot putter. So you know he had feet to be able to rotate. and he was a glide thrower. So he didn't, he didn't spend like we see the big guys now, like Ryan Krauser and all those guys.

He was a glide thrower. But I just, they need to hold that. That offensive line isn't very good. And I don't believe Aaron Rogers, even as great as he is, I don't believe he can come in and instantaneous make them a contending football team.

That's just me personally. Somebody else might see it totally different, but I just don't see that. Yeah. I mean, I'm not, I mean, what's going to happen? I mean, Aaron Rogers come back next year and magically everybody's just going to be playing that much better.

All of a sudden, out the blue, that's really not the way, that's really not the way things work. Obviously, he played four plays at the beginning of season. He got hurt because why? He was running for his life. He was running for his life. But anyway, back to the Browns again. I just had the, yeah, they look real good. It paid me to say this.

This is Cleveland's second playoff appearance in the last 21 years. First team to make the playoff with a four-quarter. quarterback carousel, Watson, PJ Walker, Thompson, Robinson, and Flacco. So Kevin's the second playoff appearance in four seasons. Do you think he should be up for a candidate for coach of the year? Absolutely. I absolutely think he should be up for coach of the year. I think D'Amico Ryan should be in that running, considering he's doing this with a rookie quarterback.

Yes. I think Mike McDaniel, what he's doing, Atlanta, excuse me, Miami. I think he should be in consideration. But for me, if Houston makes the playoff with a rookie head coach and a rookie quarterback, you got to give it. You got to give it to Miko. Absolutely. Absolutely.

Stan Cloudy asked the question, Ocho says, we got to talk about why Flacco is moving the offense better than Watson. Well, wait, I have a question. Before you say anything, I want people to remember, let's remember when Watson played, the Browns were 5 and 1. The Browns were 5 and 1. They were winning games, but offensively, statistically, it doesn't look like it does with Flacco at the helm. And that's the question that he asks.

He says, we need to ask the question, why does the offense look like this with Flacco and not with Watson? You know, that's funny. You know what's crazy? Remember, what's the first thing I asked you on last week's show? Why does it look like this? I don't understand. Are they called, are the plays different? I mean, the players can't be that much different.

He had a Marry Cooper. He had Elijah Rogers and Chief Enjoko was there. So I can't answer it. I've been watching the games. I watched the games when Deshaun was playing. I'm not sure what happened. It can't be because Flacco is higher. Deshawn's a little bit more mobile.

The arm strength, I wouldn't say as a strong as flacko, but he has way above average arm, way above average. Yeah, way above average. Like you said, it's not black hole, but it's good enough. Yeah. Plainty good enough. Yeah, it's good enough. So I'm trying to understand what the difference is.

Are the plays a little bit different because Flacco was in? But most in the bulk of the, the bulk of the offense would be at Deshawn Watson's service. So why does the offense look different with Flacco with the helm? I asked you because I couldn't answer it. And if you look at the West Coast system and that's the system that I spent the bulk of my career. And I think it's probably the system that helped me the most make it into the pro football Hall of Fame. It's a heavy play action. So the ability to run the football,

and you look at the teams that that's West Coast, you look at Miami, you look at the 49ers, you look at the Chiefs. And even though we don't think the Chiefs as a running team, they run, they like to play, they like to play action. If you look at Flacco, when they play action,

he's looking to throw the ball down the field. He's looking to get the ball down the field. If you look at the throws that he hit in Joku on the night, the deep over route, you look at the play that he hit the rock, Rogers. He's throwing it down the field now. And sometimes maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe Deshaun is a bit more cautious. Don't want to turn the ball over. But that's not Joe Flacko's mentality. Joe Flacko's mentality is the ripping. He's going to throw the ball down the field. He's going to push the ball down the field. He's

going to push the envelope. You know what? That's a, you know, that's a good thing. Now that you said that, do you think Flacco is, is more inclined to just play freely because he didn't have the weight of the contract over his shoulder or DeShon? being a little bit more cautious because of the contract and knowing that I really can't play as free as I'd like to because as soon as I make mistakes, the first thing they bring up is the money they pay. They're not going to play.

Because I'm going to say, what's the worst thing y'all can do? Send me back to my couch. Hell, I just got here. Right. So, okay, so why I go back to daddy do this and pick it up and drop it up my kids, my five kids at school.

Deshaun, he, listen, he hears everything that we're saying there are murmurs in Cleveland. The fans, the in the stands and on the radio stations, they're saying this claim conversation that you're not having right now. Mary Kay Cabot and all those people in Cleveland

are having those same conversations. Why does the offense look so different with Joe Flacko? A guy that was calling teams asking for roster spots, can I come in, let me throw for you, let me do this, and everybody told him no. Right. So how does a guy get off his couch

in five weeks look better than a guy that's been there throughout the entirety? Yeah, you know what the funny thing is, I think, I think watch it can do it. And I think what I just said is might be the issue. Playing cautious, not playing free, wanting to play mistake-free football instead of penny of ears back and let that motherfucker fly.

And I think when he does have the opportunity to come back, because he will be back. And what we've seen from Amari, what we've seen from Elijah Moore, what we've seen from Jerome Ford, what we've seen from Kareem Hunt, they can get the job done. And that West Coast offense should pick up right where it left off, one to Sean is back healthy and ready to. He's going to have to, Ocho. because the guy we're about to talk about,

Denver Broncos is benching his $242 million contract. The franchise... That's bullshit. The franchise bet big for the blockbuster trade let me finish. Russ is expected to be cut by the Broncos in March for almost two months. He's been knowing the organization

was most likely going to move on for him after the season. Bullshit. A bunch of bullshit. Listen, a lot of people in the chat, those that are listening, those that are watching. I know there have been a lot of gripes about Russell Wilson.

I even talked about it's, I'm surprised to see that the maturation of the relationship between him and Sean Payton have been doing well. He scrutinized a lot. Everything is magnified, obviously because of the contract reasons. Wilson's number this year, 26 TD passes. He ranked six in the NFL only behind Dak, Prescott, and Brock Purdy.

Let me see. Obviously, Jared Gough, Josh Allen, blah, blah, blah. whatever, he's 33. This season, this season alone, I think he's ahead of him and Patrick Mahomes. Patrick Mahomes and Wilson's numbers are identical. They're identical. So I'm trying to understand the move by the Broncos is simply a money move. It's simply a money move.

It's a business move on trying not to pay. Is it 39 million? No, he's already guaranteed 39 million. He's guaranteed 39 next season. but another 30 to 37, if he got hurt and couldn't pass a fiscal by March, 2025 is guaranteed at 37 million. Guaranteed as well. Right, right, right, right.

Just, I mean, it's a money move. I think for him, if he was playing well, I think would there be any way they can come to him and try to restructure? There would be no way to restructure. No, I mean, he would have to. And that's what, Ocho, this is why I tell players, why are y'all taking pay cuts? Why are y'all giving team discounts? You see what they do to you?

Right. you see what they do to you. Yeah. But oh, take a. And see, the NFL owners have done a great job because they're the only group of people that can convince the common folk that millionaires. Yeah, the millionaires are more selfish than the billionaires. And what they frame it as if a millionaire doesn't give a billionaire pay cut, he's selfish. He doesn't want to win.

And the fans jump on it with both feet. they buy in with both feet. Oh, if I was doing, if I was doing this, if somebody paid me 30 million, when somebody would pay you 30 million, how much do you think they're making?

But fans, it's the same. That's why, and I get, look, I understand both sides because I was a player. And I understand.

Yeah. When they struck in 82, when they struck in 87, the replacement players came in 87. You know why? The, the, the players started coming.

back because what they found out that the stadiums will still feel they don't care about the players all they care about is the logo players come and go that logo stays the same so what the players found out is that we got to take what they give us and the fans and the owners know they that's why they do what they do that's why they don't have guaranteed contracts see what you see what baseball shut their entire season down no world series yeah no playoffs that's what they needed to do to the NFL. No playoffs, no Super Bowl. You got to get, you got to all the players have to be aligned together.

You know, that's hard. You say, look here, guys, we're going to do this, but I need you guys. Listen, no more splurgy. No more. I need you to save every dime for three years because this might take a year. This might take a year. It might take two years. Yeah.

But right before the playoffs, that's how you get them. Right before the playoffs, lock it down. Everybody got to be a line. In 2011, what did the owners do to the players, Ocho? They locked your ass out of the building. Out, out of the building, yeah. Y'all go out of the building, they put chains and locks on the door. That's what they did to y'all.

And what did the fans say? Not a damn thing. Now, billionaires locked out millionaires. But if you don't take a pay cut, the fans jump in the chat. The first thing they're going to say, you're selfish. He don't want to win. Well, the owners don't want to win because they ain't paying no money. Look, I can't even.

But then, and there's a funny thing about the fans, the fans will say, oh, a bunch of millionaires crying, oh, you got all this money, why you are arguing, where you're making this or you're making that. But I don't think people understand obviously what it takes to even get to this point. And then obviously getting what you feel your worth. I mean, they already going to cut you short. way based on what your value really is, but you got to fight tooth and nail to get what you deserve or what you feel you deserve, especially once you put the work in.

When you put the work in and your resume is shown on the green graph between the right lines, you have to fight tooth and nail to get what you deserve. I'm not even going to say no names, but some quarterbacks, depending on who it is, oh, it's no issues. Things get done based on who it is. Everybody going to have a face this day. Oh, I remember, I remember Why you think Tom Brady out of New England?

They wasn't going to get Tom Brady wanted that money. They said Bill Belichick said not on my watch. I remember when John Elway made Peyton Manning take a pay cut. So, yeah, yeah, sure did. May who? Sure did.

Sure did. Yeah. Where was it? Fans in the chant, you know. They may payton take a pay cut? Absolutely, 1,000 percent. And, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, And the thing is, Ocho, is that they, like I said, the only day frame it, and fans buy end.

I just want, I don't know if anybody know fans. Before the season, but after the season, every NFL team last year got a check for $300 million. Now, ain't no ticket sold, ain't no concession, ain't no merchandise, ain't no, Oh, TV deal. That's just the TV deal. Oh, yeah. That's not for tickets. That's not for concession.

Oh, yeah. That's not for merchandise. That's not for local broadcast rights. that's just TV national TV YouTube just spent $2.2 billion a year Amazon spent a billion Netflix won't some of this action

be a football or basketball and the owner split that huh each owner get $300 million and that's before a ticket is sold ain't no parking ain't no concession ain't no merchandise ain't no local broadcasting and now you got

now let's do local sponsors ship. Let's do local advertising. Right. Man, they better stop. You know what, Ocho? I'm sorry. I'm sorry I got on my soapbox. I'm sorry I got on my soapbox. But I just need, fans need to understand this.

They need to understand. I don't think they'll ever be under the understanding, though. I don't think they'll be, they'll never be able to understand because they're, they're looking at it from a different view as a fan and not the actual player. They're seeing it is, well, you're a millionaire, you're making millions of dollars. Think about the opportunity that you have or that you have to make this kind of money and you're complaining about not making enough. And I think it's really hard for them to understand and get a graph.

But what I tell the fans, let's just say you're making $100,000, you make $150,000 on your job. You know what I'm going to do, you're solid. I'm a bump your pay up to $200,000. And your boss come to you and say, I need you to take a $50,000, $70,000. $5,000 pay cut because we want to play somebody else and we want to make sure that we win at whatever we do. Y'all signing on for that? Why not?

See, I want you to look at it to a relative scale. Don't look at somebody making $30 million because you're not making $30 million. I need you to look at it in your terms. You're making $175 to $200,000 and your boss come to you and say take $250,000 dollar pay cut so we can hire Karen and HR. You good with that? Who good with that? ain't nobody.

Hey, you ain't taking no money for me, but y'all got no problem taking the money from a football player. Why? Because it ain't your money. But when I hit your pockets, now all of a sudden, man, huh, and see what hair is the same.

Think about the old joke. Remember I told you, when they ask you to take a pay cut, okay, you're making $13 million. They want to take you down to $8. Right. But they want you to make plays

just like you're making $13 million. You see how they did your old joke? Yeah. I like, I like, I like how you went there. Can you still give me 1,400? Can you still give me 10 touchdown? Can you still give me those 90 to 100 catch you? But I need you to take an $8,000 pay cut.

But make those same play. Mm-hmm. Oh. It's crazy how it work. It's crazy how it work. And the funny thing about it is you have to damn near play. When your price tag is similar to that of Russell Wilson, you got the damn near almost play mistake free football and damn there being contention.

You can't have in no slipups, no, no nothing. The team has to be damn there on the way to the goddamn Super Bowl to warrant the money you're getting. And then the owner, the new owners, the new coach, that's not who brought Russell Wilson in, right? Remember, I had this conversation. I say, Sean Payton ain't beholden to Russell Wilson. And I told you early on. I said, Ocho, we remember we there in Detroit and he was yelling.

I said, yeah, I get it. But not in public like that. You don't dress down a guy of Russell Wilson. Now, we've seen lesser tier quarterbacks, Coach Parcells and some of the other coaches, have dressed down less than tier quarterbacks. But not Russell, no matter how, no matter how poorly you think he's played in Denver. He's a Super Bowl winner. He's a multiple time playoff. And he has 300 touchdown passes.

he has 30, 40,000 pass a yard, maybe even 50. So he's earned a level, I believe, me personally, I believe he's earned a certain level of respect on the sideline. Now, if you want to say some things behind closed doors where the public can't hear or see, have at it. But I'm telling you, Ocho, you know, I think, remember I came on, there were some things going on with the last coach that Russell would get away with. Right.

And when Sean Payton found out about it, he was in. since. Now, I tried to tell people what was going on last year. And everybody was asking, Shannon, how you know? You ain't in the locker room. You heard what his teammate said, congratulations teammate. You're supposed to stand up for Russell Wilson, but I don't give a damn what they said. Everything that I said was going on was factual. And then now all of a sudden, Shannon, what you think about the situation? No, when I tried to tell you, you told me to shut my mouth because I didn't know what was going on. I promise you. Right. If I tell you grass will turn to cheese, start hustling crackers.

That's what I need you to do. Whatever you're doing, whatever your occupation is, if I tell you grass will turn to cheese tomorrow, quit your job, start hustling crackers. Now, I told you what was going on. And I told you if Russell Wilson didn't play at an MVP level, the Bronco was going to move on. You know, you ain't in the locker room. You just talk it loud mouth. Now everything I said has come to fruition.

Now what? Yeah. And you think they sabotage it on purpose? No. Not saying that it's not possible. They want to get out from that contract. It's really simple, Ocho. So do you, so you do think they might sabotage it.

Once they realize they say, look, he's not living up to the contract. We don't want to get him hurt, Ocho. How many times you see this all the time in the preseason? They don't let the guy play because they don't want to pay him. So they ain't going to let his ass get into the last preseason game, get hurt, and get that money. So he don't play. You've seen that.

You know what? You've seen that. Yeah, a lot. But you know what? It would be a good one. Jared Stidham. Jerus did him. I know you're going to see this.

Jared, if you see this and you're really a team player, Jared should get hurt. Like, the first play of the game. So Russell Wilson got to come in and finish the next two weeks. I'm trying. Hold on. Oh, Cho. Do you know how many other teams watching this tape?

Russell Wilson have made his money. Okay. I see you. I mean, I'm just a little jab back at the Denver Broncos. Just a little jab back at the Denver Broncos. Oh, since y'all want to play games, huh? Ocho, you know that ain't hard for you. Because here's a thing, here's a guy that's not made a ton of money. Somebody,

31 other teams going to get this film. Now, granted, they did the same thing to Derek Carr last year. Jared Stidham started in place of Derek Carr. Remember, Jerry Stidham was supposed to be the guy that praised Tom Brady. Now, I don't know how, if Jared Stidham, now, he's had three opportunities, two opportunities. New England and the Raiders. The Raiders.

Now, this is his third opportunity. So we're going to find out. But I know he's going to put his best foot forward because he's playing for a contract. Right. Russell Wilson is going to, listen, Russell got $39 million guarantee coming. So even, even he's going to be able to double dip. With the Raiders need the starting quarterback, there are other teams that, there are a lot of teams that need a starting quarterback.

I think I think the best play for him to go is the Steelers. I said the Steelers. The Steelers. The Washington football team need a quarterback. I tweet. I tweet that earlier today. The Patriots need a quarterback? Don't, don't, no, no, don't send it to the Patriots.

Don't send it to the Patriots. I think the Steelers, you have Tomlin, Super Bowl winning coach. You have Russell Wilson, a Super Bowl winning quarterback with the predigree and knowing what it's like to, again, get to the playoffs. The Steelers standard, the Steelers standard on always winning and being in playoff contention. That's the perfect quarterback for your situation. You got Pickings. You got Deonté Johnson.

Listen, being able to hand the ball off. The goddamn Najah Harris. I can't remember the other running back's name who've been playing really well. Jalen, what's Jalen last name? I know he's that number 30 for the Steelers. I know he exactly. I think it's a match made in heaven based on the resume of Tomlin, the resume of God damn Russell Wilson.

You don't have to do too much. You have great targets. You have a great running game. You got a great coach, great scheme. you have a great fucking defense, a good defense. It just makes too much sense to me. Some people who say,

I don't like it. The Falcons. Atlanta Falcons. Nah. Man, hold on. They got Cal Pitt. They got the receiver from USC. They got Bejohn Robinson.

Drake London. Drake London. Yeah, Drake London. It's good. But we talk about Jaylon Warren is the guy to run it back for the Steelers. Jalen Warren. You just put them on a team.

I'm thinking about long-term. and actually have been in contention to win the guy 13 years, Ocho. How much long term you think he's going to play? You think you'll be, see, everybody thought I'm going to play like Brady. I'm going to play like Brady.

Bro, there. No, he, if he's not going to play that long, at least put him on a team that is going to make the playoffs and be in contention for a trophy. It ain't going to be the goddamn Falcons and that's no disrespect to him. Ocho.

They got a long way to go. Ocho, what did I just tell you? Date the girl that won't you. Not the girl you won't. I mean, I don't think this. I don't think they're still live with turn their nose up at Russell Wilson. What you think he's going to?

Oh, he didn't want much. He just got 39. Now, he won't hit across the head, though. What I made it, my last job ain't got nothing to do. Even if they still owe me money, they ain't got nothing to do with you. Right. I mean, how many people, fans in the chat?

You are your job. Your job let you go, but they got to pay you, they got to pay you your salary. Let's just say it's $100,000, $200,000. You go to your new job. Well, you know, your old job still paying you, So we only go play the hell you say. I ain't working at the old job.

I'm working at a new job. So I want new money. You know, I don't even think he had the leverage like that anyway. Yeah. I don't think it has the leverage like that. And you don't want to come off in bad taste going to a new team demanding anything extreme. I want the go and rate. Okay.

What's the going rate for a starting quarterback? 40 mil. Right now. Fought it. The Cowboys going to renegotiate that contract. It's going to be somewhere between 50 and 60. Yeah, they need to pay them seven. I don't know what they need to pay it.

But Russell Wilson said, okay, the going rate for a starting quarterback is 40 million. That ain't got, that 39 that I got coming, that ain't got nothing to do with y'all. Y'all ain't paying none of that. Right, right. I'm on your clock now. Look, and look, I thought Russell,

I thought Russ played well. I know what they're looking at. They say when the game is like, when the game is relying on Russell being improvisational, that's when he's at his best. So I don't think Sean Payton really likes that. He likes things a little bit more structured. If you look at the success he had,

Drew Breed is more prototypical of what Sean Payton is looking for. Although I think that style of quarterback play is archaic. If you look at the quarterbacks that's having success, most of those guys are more athletic. They're more mobile. Now, look, Jared Gough is not the more mobile. He can take off. He has better legs than Brady and Manning, Ehran.

Eli Manning, Eberhan. But he's not, he's not like, you know, he's not Lamar. Nobody's asking him to be. But we see Patrick Mahomes, how mobile he is. Yeah. We see a Joe Burrell. We'll see these guys. These guys have become much more athletic.

Yes, they can drop back, throw the ball from the pocket. But when you got Miles Garrett and you got Michael and you got the T.J. Watts, those guys have become more athletic. So you need a quarterback that's more athletic to be able, even though they can't outrun them, just buy some time in order to push the ball down the field. Yes, this is all about money. I'm not surprised that they're taking this route

for the simple fact is they don't believe that Russell Wilson is playing up to that contract and he can fulfill the remaining years on that contract. So you know what? We're going to cut bait. We're going to eat $39 million. It's probably going to be somewhere. where between $6 and $7 million in dead money.

Now, do we do we dig it up over two years, or do we just take this blow to the stomach right now? That's the only question that the Broncos have, because the Broncos have already made their decision. They're moving on in 2024 without Russell Wilson. But then to who? To what? And the thing is, they'll probably go in the draft,

maybe in free agency. I don't know. But they're going on without Russ. because think about what they gave up to get him. Two first round of the second, a third, a fourth, and three players. A lot. Which is why the fact that they're getting rid of them so soon is beyond me. The thing that these teams, a lot of these teams, what they will do once they come to the,

because a lot of times what you do, you're in a relationship and people, y'all hear me talk about relationships a lot. a lot of time in a relationship, you know that shit ain't working. But out of a matter of convenience, you'll stay your ass there. Instead of just moving on, either party, I'm not saying he's wrong or her or this or that. I'm saying people sometimes stay in a relationship when you know it ain't going nowhere. The Broncos, no, they're not going anywhere with Russell Wilson. So instead of staying and trying to figure it out, let's just move on down the road. And guess what?

And he might be, oh, Joe, we've all been in a situation. That's crazy. It didn't work out with us, but she has better luck with someone else. Or you have better luck with someone else. It's okay. Yeah. Right. And you got to be able to process that, Ocho.

Yeah. When you use that analogy, it makes much more sense. It makes much more sense, especially when you put it like that. But to me, with the money that comes in the play and the fact that it's only been two years. Wait, this is year too, right? Yes, the second year. Yeah. It's only year two.

Normally, I would think with a new coach coming in, new regime, new owner, just, you know, you give it some time. But I guess their mind is made up. I think Sean Payton just maybe didn't like Russell Wilson. Maybe he just didn't like him. And the fact that Russell has known for a long time that they were wanting to bench him and get rid of him. And he's still professional. And was still out there professional. and winning games, throwing TDs,

but, and I think that's why Sean Payton barked at him a little bit. He wanted to get a reaction. I think he wanted to get a reaction. But that's not really Russell's personality. I'm not surprised. Russ just took it. And like I said, I was like,

I'm trying to figure out why he was yelling unless Russell checked to a play. It was supposed to be quarterback sneak or something. I don't understand. how he's yelling at Russ because the damn lineman lined up offside. How the hell is that Russ is falling? So I was probably probably did call something. Probably did call something.

He wants to call. And so that's what that's what that's why I was puzzled. Look, but also no matter what transpired before Sean Payton got there, everybody was supposed to have a fresh late. So whatever Russ did or didn't do, that wasn't under your watch. So you shouldn't have felt some type of way about him. I thought we were starting from scratch. Clearly, that wasn't the case.

So no matter what you had, look, I've been critical of Russ, but I don't think Russ deserved. I shouldn't say he deserved because I hate using that word deserved. I just think the thing is, the Broncos felt that Russ wasn't living up and couldn't fulfill the money that was remaining on the contract. instead of trying to make it make it work you know what

let's just move on let's just move on oh choe i mean it's really it's really that's tough let's just move on that's tough but then i think when when owners or they make those type of business decisions do they think about the other players in the locker

hell no do we think about do they think about the fans what do the fans think because now you're back at square one because as you got 32 teams in the field. And you need one. There's one important position that you need to compete week in and week out and even think about playoffs or goddamn Lombardi Trophy, and that's a quarterback. And you just let one that is a Super Bowl winner, one that's been the multiple playoffs,

and one that knows what it takes to win. And because he wasn't playing well, you know what? Because he's making so much money, we're going to let this one go and start over from scratch. You know why the owners don't care what the fans think? Because they're going to buy them tickets and show their ass up in the stands. And you know what? And the ones that can't afford their tickets, they're going watch on television. Look at the ratings. Look at the ratings, Ocho. That's what the NFL.

That's what moves the needle. You see, the reason why they wanted the players to stand, because it was affecting the sponsors, the advertisers. That's what moved them. They don't give it down by them fans. Now, when the fans, like, okay, we're not going to watch it. We're not going to boy.

They're like, whatever, we'll see. But when the sponsors started feeling some type of way, When the dog people, yeah. See, they figured this out. The fans are going to come regardless. When they talk about, oh, boycott, boycott, boycott, y'all ain't boycott. Because those same people that boycotted Michael Vick when they came back from the Eagles, guess what?

Soon as the game started to put those damn signs down and it went in the game. They wouldn't watch the game. That's what they did. And the owners realized that. Y'all ain't boycott nothing. And you're watching. That's why the ratings keep going up and up. And the TV money keep going up and up.

That's why it costs more for everybody trying to get in the live events. That's why. Right. You two. YouTube doing football games. Amazon go from delivering packages to doing football games. Ball games. Yeah.

Come on now. That's crazy. Come on with it. If it makes dollars, it makes sense. One with a C and one with an end. Either way, it makes sense. And you know what I'm talking about. Right.

that talking, we're going to boycott, we're going to do this? No, you're not. You're not going to do anything. You're going to show it to the game and pay, and you're going to watch on television. The owners have figured it out. That's crazy. I think the funny thing about it is, is the fans were probably never all join in unison and say, okay, we're boycotting. Even worse than that, to get the players all to align with the same moral compass and values of, you know, in order for things to work, in order for things to turn and switch

over in our favor, we all got to say, you know what? Fuck it. We ain't doing it. We ain't planned until we get guaranteed contracts or whatever it may be. Whatever cause it is that you want to fight for to get all 53 players on all 32 teams to get together and do it. All it takes is one time. To get the change that you want, all it takes is one time.

But it'd be a damn impossible. Because when them checks stop coming and in September 9th roll around and ain't no checks coming in. Man, boy, it does now. That's why I'm saying you gotta have a process though.

You got to, you can't say, okay, we're gonna, we're gonna do this. You say, you got to give the players three years and you got to let them know

this is what's happening. And hopefully you have enough in the war chest that you can withstand a year. But, Ocho, look. Hey, that's a tough one.

Because them, hey, them owners, or they can withstand. Because here's the thing. I'm worth a, billion. I go to the bank and say, look, I'm not going to be able to make this payment on this building this month, but I catch you next month. Okay, Mr. Jones. Okay, Mr. Craf. Okay, Mr. This one, whoever the only is of that particular team. Let a player say that. Okay, well, you got another 30 days. And after that, we're going to start the process. Yeah. Ocho, I'm just going to keep it a stack with you. So you see, Ocho, there's something going on bigger at play here. And I don't know if the people are realizing it. Because, see, you see what happened. If you go back and study our history, and I was a history major, so I'm pretty good, and I feel very comfortable in what I'm about to say.

You see, you remember in the 60s, the government started giving us a little civil rights. They gave us a little voting rights at. They gave us a little bit. And then they just a little bit, just a little bit. And you remember in the 70th row, B. Way, they gave us abortion. This is the first generation that's starting to take that ish back. And people don't even realize it. Look at it.

Look at what they're starting to do. They gave and gave and gave. And then they say, you know what? Piece by piece, we'll start taking it back just like we gave it to them. And they won't even notice it. You see, what people do, you don't steal. See, the thing is, you don't steal 300 million. You're still a million at a time over a period of time.

Right. And before they notice it. You see, they take a little bit by little bit. You see, voting rights, okay, we're going to make a little bit more deal. over here. You see your civil rights. Yeah. You see, and I'm not just talking about black people. I'm talking about anybody that won't rights.

You see how to take it? You see Roe v. Wade? They've been going pulling and pulling. They've been trying to get it. Since it was institute, I think it was 72. Roe v. Wade happened in 72, if I'm not mistaken. Don't quote me on that, but I feel pretty confident that it was. And boom, boom,

73, and 73. And so, slowly by slowly but surely, surely, surely, slowly and surely, slowly but slowly. And next thing you know, you look up. So this generation, you better get on your grind now. While you out there, while you out there floss it and doing all this crazy stuff, you better look up. You're going to look up.

It's like, damn, I ain't got. Yeah. Yeah. You know, the funny thing about it, I think a lot of people don't pay attention to it. A lot of people don't pay attention to it because it hasn't affected them yet, or it's not affecting them at all. No. No. No. See, it takes a special type of person. You see, it takes a special type of person to have empathy because empathy that requires you to divorce yourself and see yourself as that person. See, some things can only be seen through the eyes that have cried, Ocho. So if you can't see yourself as homeless, how can you feel home? How can you have? You see, that's why people will give to cancer because they need.

know someone that's been afflicted by that deadly disease. So it's easy to get on, okay, when someone that's been brutalized, well, I can't, you think Jared Jones can see somebody his family being brutalized? Look at when that flood in Texas, look at how much the NFL, how they raise that money. J.J. Watworth made $30 million. Bless his heart, he was unbelievable. One Walter Payton Man of the Year. Because you see, the flood can impact anybody.

Water doesn't know if you black or white. Yeah. But you know what, Ocho, let me stop Ocho. I'm sorry, Ocho. I got, I'm sorry, Chad, that I got. You good, you good. You're good. You're good.

I'm sorry that I got off topic. I got off topic. That's, I just, uh, T.J. Ellsworth asked, is there a quarterback in the upcoming draft that you're hoping your Broncos get or a free agent who you believe would fit the team better? Well, look, it doesn't matter what I think. I think Sean Payton thinks he can find someone that would fit the team better. That's what he thinks.

They gave a lot of money, Ocho. They gave a lot of money. They gave a lot of power. I know they want to win. I love Sean Payton. I don't see him as a quarterback whisperer, and I'm not sure what's out there that he think is going to change. Because if you think he was screaming at Russell Wilson two weeks ago or three weeks ago,

or three weeks ago, a half a long ago, it was, he going to be screaming some more. Of course, that's him. That's his nature. He's going to be screaming. He's going to be screaming some more. Bill Parcells yelled at everybody. He yelled at Phil Seels. the Drew Bledso, Tony Romo, he called Terry Glenn.

She was hurt. I mean, you couldn't do that now. He wouldn't refer to T.O. by his name. He said, the player. I remember that. I remember that. Man. Oh, man, I'm just saying.

So that's kind of, and you have to be careful when you learn because you, you, I mean, you exhibit a lot of those, that behavior. If you look at the guys that under Coach Belichick, all of them try to be like Coach Belichick, and only one coach. that's ever been a coordinator on the coach Belichick has had success at really any level. That's Nick Saban. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You're right. You're right. So, uh... What quarterback, though? What quarterback would you say?

And, I mean, the Broncos aren't picking high enough. The Broncos aren't picking high enough. Uncle Maine said, we the Falcon fans don't want Russ, nor do we need future Sierra Russ drama in our locker room. man, y'all wild I forgot all about that. I forgot all about that. I forgot all about that.

Ocho, I don't know when the Broncos are going to draft. Look, the last thing I think they need to do is give up any more draft capital because I think that's a, because here's the thing, Ocho, when you give up that kind of draft capital,

you give up two first round picks. Ocho, he got to make it. He got to make it. Yeah. Because that's the foundation piece is the quarterback. That's the position that fits everybody back. That's the position.

That's the position. They letting it go too early, though. Yeah, too. Oh, Joe. How long you're in a relationship before you realize it's time to break it off? Two days, two weeks, two months, two years. That's too long. Whatever the two is.

If I know it ain't working, it's too long, two minutes, two hours, two days, two weeks, two months, two months, two. years. It doesn't matter. If you, if you know that's the problem.

A lot of times people stay in situations when you know he or she ain't going to change. Are they pulling the trigger too soon? Based on him,

based on his numbers, are they pulling the trigger too soon? His numbers are identical to Patrick Mahomes. Are they pulling the trigger too soon? What do you think?

Whatever. Because here's the thing. A lot of people say, ain't Russ fault. They've always blamed the quarterback. And you just said it in the Jets. The Jets' offensive line isn't very good. Who they blame, Mocho?

Yeah. Name a situation in which they, I mean, hey, I remember the same thing. Now, with Lamar receivers weren't very good, they blamed Lamar, even though he was throwing the less than, less than all-star caliber receivers. Hey, we put a lot of that up, but the Mahomes ain't played. Look, if Mahomes were playing like he would normally play, maybe he'd be a, to overcome some of the inadequacies that's going on the receiver court. So guess what?

He got blamed again. That's just the way it is, Ocho. You make the most money. Yeah, you're right. You get the blame. You get most of the blame. Yeah. I'm not saying it's right.

You're right. I just understand how it works. It comes with a territory. It does. Because no matter what, Ocho, you can give a kid everything. If the kid doesn't turn out right, they're going to blame the parents. Yeah, maybe thing. I like that. I like that one.

They're going to say they gave him too much. If the kid turns out bad, they're going to say, well, the parents didn't love him enough. So you just got to, you just got to hope for the best. The kid turns out well, so you get the credit. That's just the way it is, Ocho. I didn't make the rules. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal, but encouraged. It's the enhanced games.

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Ocho, the Packers suspended Jahir Alexander. The Packers have placed a... Javier. conduct detrimental. Packers' GM said the decision to suspend a player is never easy and not one we take lightly. Unfortunately, Jahir's

action prior to the game in Carolina's Carolina led us to take this step. As an organization, we have an expectation that everyone puts team first. While we are disappointed, we had a good conversation with Jaya and this morning and fully expect him to learn from this.

Ocho, what's my favor saying, Ocho? you never accept anything in a win, you wouldn't have lost. Had they lost this game with what he did, been okay? Yes or no, Joe? No. So what that's what I've been telling you. You see, he's one of your better cornerbacks in the league.

And the Green Bay Packers said, what you did, your behavior is so egregious. We've got to sit you down. We've got to set a president. We've got to let out the rest of the other 51, excuse me, the other 45 and the practice squad. type of behavior is never acceptable. And then the cavalierness of it, Ocho, did you know, did you understand what he did? Do you understand

what he did, Ocho? Bring it to me one of the time. He was not a captain. He went on the field for the coin toss. They won the coin toss. He, the other team won the coin toss. He deferred. Right. So in other words, Carolina was going to get both possessions to start

the game and start the second half. And he thought it was cool. That's what the, the smugness and the cavalierness of it. I think I got that right. Am I correct? Is that what happened? Okay. Yes. Hey.

Hey, that's how it went. Absolutely. Yeah, you can't do that. You can't do that. You can't do that. But, you know, it makes me upset. You know why it makes me upset?

Because the goddamn package, the goddamn package are playing the Vikings. You know who plays for the Vikings? Justin Jefferson. Who the hell for the cover of Justin Jefferson? That's what I want to know because I want to see that matchup. I want to see the matchup because Justin Jefferson has been hurt. Jaya Alexander and Justin Jefferson is a matchup that we would all want to see.

But the fact that he suspended, it's unfortunate. What he did, totally unacceptable. Totally unacceptable. But why? Oh, Joe, come on. The spinning him for again. I don't even know why he's. He's from Charlotte.

But, bro, you play for the Packers. Yeah, but even if you from Charlotte, what is going out for the coin toss? So how does that, that doesn't really... He wanted to give... I guess he thought he was doing a solid for the Panthers. I don't know. I don't know. I know one thing.

That's that motherfucker boy, though, in man-to-man coverage. He's a great corner. A very, very good corner. Very good corner. Play-up... You know what? Packers are out of playoff contention, huh?

No. No. Absolutely not. Damn, playoff contention is sitting the best corner down? Yes. Yes. Yes. You're talking about...

That's the president. They said the president. Even if they don't win. This is a win. what we got to let this is what we got to let everybody know. You see, punishment is just not for the individual that committed said act. Right.

It is deterred others for committing said act. That's what punishment is supposed to do. Punishment should be swift. It should be harsh. When we deduce the fact when we get down to it, he or she did X,

let's not lie like that. Right. What he did. Yeah. I don't think unacceptable. I don't think the, I don't think then he'll be same after this. I don't think I don't think you're going to be the next year. Well, he's trying to get out clearly because didn't they suspend him last year? Didn't he have some kind of, because he had an issue with them last year, Ocho?

Yeah. I think this has kind of been going back and forth. I don't know if he wanted more money, but Jaya Alexander has been having some issues with the package organization. Right. For a while now, if I'm not mistaken. Chet y'all chime in. Let me know if I'm right or wrong.

Yeah. Any time we get to this point, obviously I understand they want to set a precedent any time they get to the point of spending one of their best if not there but the best corner you know on the team and it gets to the point well we're going to we're going to suspend them even with our team being in playoff contention especially with the game we have coming up playing against arguably the best receiver in the NFL who just come back from injury they they they're sending a message not just not just suspending them for this game

But it's a different kind of message if you look at it from the other side of the corner. I think whether he hurt or they said he was hurt or something, but Jahil Alexander, and they've had issues with him before. I know I didn't miss. I'm not with him. Maybe. Maybe it is. Maybe was Jahir hurt or something? And they wanted him to come back and he said he was hurt.

I know he was injured for a little bit this year. I know that. I know one thing. When he is healthy, that mother's going to know he can cover. boy. Boy, he's coming. I'm to,

I'm to buy, I'm talking about, man to man, well, you remember that Justin Jefferson in Minnesota, he went crazy.

Oh, yeah. And Jaya said, okay, he got to come see me. He got to come see me. And when he came to Lambo, it wasn't the same.

Uh-huh. Yeah, different ball game. Well, if I wrote, uh, we have a final thing. I love, I love matchups.

I love matchups like that. But I just, come on, Jair. Come on, come on to Cincinnati, I'm just trying to figure out. Why would you even, why would you even put yourself in this?

That, Ocho? I don't know. You know, it's funny. Him not want to be, he might have did it on purpose. What you mean? He might have. He did it on purpose. Just, just.

You know what? Let me, let me, let me piss him off one more time before this season in. See if this can help me get out of the dough. Maybe you never know. Because other ways he might have been trying behind closed doors ain't working. Yeah. Look, like I said, I mean, he's one of the highest paid. Did he, had he gotten a contract extension?

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I know he's, yeah, he's one of the highest pay. And Greenbank has some talent. You think about Zadaria, Zedariah, Dzeria Smith, who's in Cleveland right now, played really well. Remember Zee went to Minnesota, played well there.

So yeah. They still have Rishon Gary. They still have Preston Smith. Jaya Alexander. I mean, they had a very talent. Look. Yeah. They just let Rassoules.

Yeah, they traded him to Buffalo. But the thing was, Ocho, the opportunity. that they had when they had home field throughout and they had the championship game on their field and they had all those dogs and they didn't cash it in. And that opportunity don't knock but so often before it moves on to someone else's door to knock on. And when Green Bay had that opportunity,

they had Devonte and they had some of those guys and you look at what they had on the defensive side of the football and they couldn't close it out, even after they got, what they get three interceptions from Tom Brady and they still didn't win that game. They didn't capitalize. So I just hate that Jahir put himself in that situation.

I really hate that. Look, I just look, Ocho, I believe that even if I don't like my job, there's something about being a pro and being a professional. And although they're kind of spelled the same, they start up the same, but they're two different things. Right. A professional is the occupation. A pro is who you are.

They're two different things, Ocho. You see, Ocho, there's a saying that says, change is inevitable. Growth is optional. Choose wisely. Yeah. You're right. You're right.

But listen, with the way they treat some of those that even act professional and do things like a pro, that business side can make you turn a blind eye. that's another saying too. I got that from my grandma. Alexander missed week three and four with a back injury. Played through it in week five because he was facing its former t-bait, Devante Adams.

Then miss week game seven against the Broncos with the same injury. In week nine, Alexander suffered a shoulder injury, diving to break up a pass and missed six consecutive games because returning Sunday against the Panthers. However, he was never placed on injury reserve during that span. He didn't play any games during that stretch.

Not only that, Alexander didn't travel with the Packers to the week 14 game against the Giants after making trips to Pittsburgh and Detroit, the first two road destinations after the shoulder injury. You see? You see what's going on here, Ocho? There's something going on. Yeah, something going on.

Internity. That's why I say he did that on purpose. He did it on purpose. So I think, I think is that we can see where this thing is headed. It started like, Ocho, you know how a couple is, start sleeping in separate beds? That's not something that we, We talked about that you start sleeping in separate beds.

It's only a matter of time. It's only a matter of time. You can come on, come on to Cincinnati, now you know, now that ain't going to stop me from trying to go up there and shake the covers up there. Now,

I just got you in another room. But now it gets hard and harder for you, boy, you know, I get, we're going to shake the covers full dog. Listen, if you, if you,

if you're all sleeping in a separate bed, it's already over. Like you said, it, ex-reasing. Ain't a point. Ain't a, Ain't a point in shaking the covers no more

if you're sleeping in separate bands. But what? I'm like TLC. I ain't too proud to bed. You want to roll with you. You want to get out of my face. In the morning of the evening, I ain't too proud to bed.

Hey, that ain't, that ain't TLC song. I think it is. No, that's SWV. Oh. Ain't it? I ain't too proud to beg. Who says I ain't too proud of bed? That's invoked.

That's invo. I don't know who it is, but I know, hey. I don't like, my, my music catalog all messed up. Huh? I ain't too proud to be. Temptations. The temptation. No, that.

Hey, somebody in the chair, jump, who's saying that? That is TLC? Yeah. I'm talking about, I'm talking about SWV. I'm all. I'm all, man. We like them to, Ocho. We like them too.

Yeah. But it's just a real deal, now. Look. Remember Cameron Diaz says she wants to normalize sleeping in separate beds Now look If she's pregnant, I'm snoring

She can't get a good night's sleep She, you know what I'm saying? Okay, I get that. You understand. It makes sense. Yeah, it makes sense. But I think Normalized sleeping in separate beds I say maybe more so after argument. More so after argument, you know,

cooler heads prevail, go to separate rooms. You never go to bed angry. Never go to bed angry. Always finding where to talk about. I'm saying, I'm old makeup guy. Nippin it in the girl. I ain't talking about the time you put on your face. I'm a makeup type of guy. You ain't going to be bad. Oh, yeah. Clearly something on your mind. You're going to somewhere else. I got you. Oh, take this to bed with you.

But you know what, Ocho, I think that's an older generation thing because my grandmother and grandfather didn't sleep in the same day. because remember I told you I slept with my grandmother my brother slept with my grandpa that's right that's right that's right that's an older generation thing I know I know a lot of older people that their parents uh when I'm saying older I'm talking about my age and their parents didn't sleep together right so I think that's an older generation thing um I think now people automatically assume if you're sleeping in separate beds there's something going on my grandmother and grandfather they have no issues but they just slip in separate beds so to each you're sleeping in separate beds so to each of you Well, maybe maybe we need to adapt to some of the older ways today. Maybe it will eliminate some of the problems that we have in today's era in society that maybe being up under each other 24-7, maybe it's not a good thing. Well, it wasn't over to 24-7 because that man was working. And normally a lot of times my grandmother was right-side working too. Or he was, you know, he was off and my grandmother was doing her thing.

So it wasn't this 24-hour. And there weren't all these other options that were available also to either one of them. Now, that's not to say that, you know, people didn't get around because they did. But the options that's available to this generation wasn't available to even my generation when I was coming up. And that damn show wasn't available to my mom and my grandparents' generation. So things are a lot different now. Yeah, much different. Much more difficult.

I mean, obviously during this day and age and time that we're in now, one of the key things that you need for one, and discipline. Discipline. That's the key word. That's the key word in anything, especially in the day and age, because you have access, social media, uh, over, over exposure.

Over exposure to anything. And there will always be somebody finer. There was always be somebody with more money. There will always be someone with prettier feet. There will always be someone with a better car. Well, I'm just, I'm just throwing out all the different things that you'll be able to find.

Why you can't say eyes? Why you can't? Faye-Fa-Lips. Why you can't say leg? Why you K-Fey-K-Fa-K-K-Fa-K-K-K-A. Okay, there always be somebody with bigger lips. Whatever. Always be something with a bigger ass. I mean, I'm trying to hit on all the different, all the different characteristics depending on what people like.

And you just, you got to have discipline to understand that if you're locked in, you got to be locked in. And it's, it's difficult for a lot of people. You know, I teach, I have a, you know, I do therapy. You need to be in therapy with these feet. No, a lot of people come to me to help them with some of the problems that they're having due to the over exposure of having issues with them trying to be on point. And I've been guiding people in the right way. So that's something that I'm proud of.

You probably have rail soaking up feed and vinegar. Have old pickle, old rale, old pickle. Ray, got a little pickle feet. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no.

But I do send her to get the. The fish treatment pedicure, which is nice. The little fish is knowing the other on your feet. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What about that big fish when you get home to be knowing on them? You.

Oh, big old black striped bands. You. That's the fish. My bad. I'm about to wake up. Okay. Okay. Okay.

Okay. I'm going to say that. Lamar and since the ravens are underdog isn't taking the bait. The ravens can clinch the number one seed if they beat the dolphins on Sunday. The ravens are three and a half point favorite. when it was pointed out to Lamar that the Ravens are no longer the underdogs, he said, we're the underdogs, we're the underdogs. It was just the team that this team is the Ravens.

We don't know about the Ravens. Now it's, oh, they're the number one team. So we're playing, we're not paying any mind to that. I feel like it's bait. That's clickbait. Well, Lamar, for like the last six weeks, everybody said that you were the second best, you're the number one team in the UFC. you're the second best team in the NFL.

You just went to the best team's house, kicked up in their ass, and came home. So, you know, and I get it, you know. Embarrassed. Embarrassed them. I don't, I don't, let me, let me tell how we did it. I know that when I was in Denver, I know what we said publicly.

Oh, that team is good. Oh, their defense is like this here. Their office is so good. They got a lot of good players. privately we're going to kick the ish out of them. That's what we said. Oh, yeah. Well, definitely.

The same in the Super Bowl. Oh, Joe, we played the Packer. Oh, man, they got Brett Barb, MVP, three-time MVP, back to back to back. Oh, they just won the Super Bowl last year. They got Reggie White, all pro. They got Leroy Butler. Oh, they got Brett. They got Antonio Freeman.

They got Robert Brooks. They got Mark Chamura. Oh, we just hyping them up. We're going to kick those. Yeah. You know, I think how come, well, I think it's more frowned upon. I would like players. I wish players were.

They're not very many that are that are keen on doing so. Is giving team bullies the board material and telling people exactly how they feel instead of being politically correct. They need to bring that back. They need to bring that back. Say what you really feel. I wish players would do that now. Well, I think the player would is the coach's decision. You see how Debo and Brad and Bradbear were going at it a little bit?

Tell people how you really feel about somebody. If you don't think they're good, say it. It's okay. I enjoy the banter back and forth. I love it. I love it. I think we need more of that instead of every answer being. Politically correct.

Yeah, everybody. Yeah, man. Just let's have some fun, you know? Before we head on to that, the temptation did have a song, ain't too proud to beg in 1966, and TLC had a song. and TLC had a song Ain't Too Proud to Begg in 1991. Oh, so

TLC, the rendition was the original. The original is the Temptations? Okay, I like that. I like that. I just learned something. Yeah, I think the thing is, that's the only time Mike has ever said anything about

Sheldon, just make sure, hey, I know you want to say this. I know, but just do me this one solid. Don't say anything, just pump him up. I think Mike, we're going to kick that. He said, I know it. He said I know 84. I know it.

So, you know, I'm pumpled him up. Man, Leroy, he's the tough. He's the best strong safety in the game. If they put him on me, I'm going to be the Super MVP. Oh, that's what I'm thinking to myself. No, I ain't going to lie to you. I'm saying, if they, man, please, they say, well, what if they put Leroy on me, man to man.

And he covered me for the entire game, I empty my bank account. And I'll leave the country and never come back. See, that's the type of talk. They wouldn't dare put a safety on me. And my, that was, uh, Ocho, that was my absolute pride.

I'm talking about right, right, right, right. I'm talking about Zenith. I'm talking about day noir. I'm talking about the crescendo. I'm talking about I'm up here. Right.

Man, please. Bad out there. Hey, you said the crescendo. Look here, but what you're so bad, bad. Hey, I wanted to be playing with now.

Uh, former chiefs, all pro, returning, calls out Mahomes and Kelsey for spoiled behavior. When you're screaming and yelling at your player, that permeates negativity. When you have what you have,

when you have what you have the first five years, that poker face, we know we're going to win at the end. That permeates positivity. Get back to being positive. It's like my little kids running around for Christmas. We got you to Christmas, Christmas tree full of presents,

and you're acting like spoiled brats. What's your take on what Dante said? the human joystick. I mean, I like, I understand what Dante Hall is coming from. I understand what he's coming from. But Dante Hall, you're not in their shoes. You're not putting in the work. You're not understanding the frustration they're going through.

You should understand it. You should understand why they're screaming. You should understand why Travis Kelsey is upset. You should understand why Patrick Mahler is upset. Have you seen what he's been having to deal with? I mean, it's common sense. So why even come out saying something like that? Because you understand the emotions and how it feels to go through practice and practice and

practice and to go into games and not and have things not coming to fruition the way you work on it's tough it's frustrating it really is i know i know what that feels like and the dante hall should know what that feels like i'm not i understand what he's saying you know saying all the right things but come on man come on man you play the game you know why he's screaming you know why he's frustrated and at times it's passion it's okay to show it don't bottle that shit up don't bottle let that shit out it's okay yeah you know um dante hall was the first i know dads get credit for oh he was the first to throw up the ex yeah guess what team he did against y'all no y'all oh he did oh he did another one man he hit they hit they blocked up in the back man that was a bull job

you know it too nah man why you did you ain't play with out wilson hall i didn't play with al Boy, Al, that one hit my fucking hell, I got, Al came in 99, I left and then I came back 0-203. So I played three years with Al. Okay, okay, okay. Oh, yeah.

Oh, but oh. Now, you talk about some moves? Yeah. Man, he was back. Dante? Oh, yeah. It's a human joystick. Yeah, he was the real deal.

Man, it was like, okay, when you press two buttons at the same time, whatever you get. You don't know where that man going to go? That's what he do. That's him. You're right by that. He was a real deal.

Alabama Jalen Monroe, Millrow says former OC and current Patriots officer coordinator, Bill O'Brien, told him he should not be a quarterback. He asked the reporter, said, how would you feel if I told you you suck? Look where I am right now. So who gets the last laugh? Michael Eves teeted. Michael Eves had a great tweet. What Bill O'Brien was really trying to say that he was. didn't know how to coach such a talent as Jalen Mill Roe.

But instead of dressing his own shortcomings, Bill O'Brien tried to project them onto him onto the player sometimes, some things that's been happening for decades, especially when it comes to black quarterbacks. Yeah. Yeah, most definitely. That's nothing new. It's always been that way.

It's always, it's always, it's always, it's always, it's always, it's always, it's always continue to be that way. It will never change. Yes, sir. you didn't have people that when you was growing up say you weren't going to be nothing. So what's different about this? Exactly. My teacher.

My teachers are high school. Still to this day, I see him still to this day. Yes. I see him. Man, I love you. Man, what you told me back then, I really appreciate that. I really appreciate that because the litter fire under my ass. I really like that.

I don't see that as some see it as a negative. Some going to the dumps. Some, oh, I feel bad. or some, oh, look what he said about me. Me, me mentally, I'm a little different. You should have a thing. Nick Saban told Trayvon Diggs the exact same thing. Trayvon Diggs came to Alabama as a four-star wide receiver.

He said, son, I think he should move to D.B. Trayvon Diggs was an all-pro D.B. That he is. We got to stop like, oh, this. Oh, come on, yes. I get it. Right, right, right. But y'all make it seem like only athletes get told that I'm sure they're the there are musicians.

I'm sure they're actors. I'm sure they're entertainers. It all walks of life. I was told I'm not going to make it. I listened to the one person that told me that I was going to be something and I was going to make it. Yeah. Because what y'all had, y'all couldn't run for me, y'all couldn't catch for me, y'all couldn't live for me. y'all couldn't live for me y'all couldn't train for me so how you can tell me what i can be

when you not me yeah and those that do tell you well you can't do something that should be all the motivation you need that i mean honestly that shouldn't be a motivation you should already be motivated to want to do something anyway but hearing someone say you can do something to be that much more motivating to want to achieve and attain that goal whatever it may be and whatever respective craft that it is you do I like, I like it. Tell me what I can't do. I like it. And then when I do it, I like it.

I mean, all, think about Ocho, see, my job is not to prove. See, Jalen Monroe's job shouldn't be to prove him wrong. I'm going to prove me right. Right. Because all the people that told me along the way that, oh, Shannon, you great in high school, but wait do you get to college. Right. And when I got to college, wait until you get to the NFL.

All along the way, they got to watch me and say, damn, he said that. Damn. He said he was going to do that. He said he was going to be this. He said he was going to be that. So why I'm going to listen to you what you say? When you got no, there's the thing, Ocho, you got no control on what I can or can't do. Yeah. The best thing about it, I'm not computer generated. So you don't control anything. I control what I become. And I know what God told me. I know what I prayed for. And I didn't pray for you. you to have an opinion about me because your opinion don't matter about me. Mm-hmm. That's crazy.

And that's the thing. People get caught up with. He's, I don't care. Hell, I had women that told me I ain't going to be nothing. And. Damn. Okay. Yeah.

It's okay. Oh, Joe. Okay, watch. Watch. Hey, they don't. Hey, boy, listen. But women, women, women vicious, man. Everybody vicious.

They don't, they don't, they don't love, they don't like to see the process. but they love the finished product. Of course. They don't like the process, but they love the finished product. When you're hurt, what wouldn't you say? What wouldn't you do?

See, you have to look at it from that. Okay, we're about to break up. I'm going to go my way. I'm going to go hurry your way. See, when you tell me that, what made you say that of all the things that you could have seen?

Because you know I'm going so, where you tried to put doubt in my mind. Yeah. I don't doubt me. She's mad. She's mad. She's mad. Yes.

Yes. You can't contaminate my thoughts because what you say right now can't undo the 12, 15, 20 years that I thought that I knew I was going to become something. So one one you uttering, I ain't going to be nothing. I ain't this. I ain't that. You know, you ain't ish. Nah. Well, maybe I ain't what ish could have been do-doo.

But I ain't what you know. You know what I'm here? Don't Joe die with that. Right, right, right. Y'all can't break me. I'm unbreakable. You know what the bad part is? A lot of people are full

with those words. A lot of people are affected so much by words, especially in today's era, today's society. Oh, he said this or she said that. It bothered. What happened in sticks and stones may break my bones, but words don't. everybody's so sensitive

and so like, oh my God, you can't say that. Oh my God, what are you doing? Like, so what? It's just words. If it doesn't apply, let it motherfucking fly. Exactly. If it don't apply, let it fly. Because my thing is, if Jailer Morrow

believe what one man told him and he let it change, it let him make creeped out in his own mind, well, you were meant to do that anyway. Well, maybe it worked though, because look at him now. Maybe he used that as motivation or extra fuel because look at him now. The play that he made against Auburn?

Yeah. The play that he made against number one Georgia and to get his team in the college football playoffs. Yeah. Yeah. So young man, don't worry about what somebody tell you what you can't do. Believe what you told yourself you could do. And that's all that matters.

Yeah. That's it. The Daily Hustle said, this has been the most passionate Ocho I've ever been with the honest critique. He's finally gave in. Ocho, been on his thing today. He's been on his thing. What a, what a?

Yeah, you've been on your grind today. I just, I've been, I've been me, though. I've been me. That's what he's saying. I'm always. He's saying, this is the most passionate Ocho we've ever been. And with honest critiques. You can.

That's what I was trying to tell you. what you can you can be you i ain't been i ain't been honest before sometimes they feel you you no misrepresent the truth oh my bad my bad uh today is denzil's 609th birthday is today hey what that's that's a boy that's my boy name is i i got a story i know i got a story go ahead go ahead tell your story what you got ain't nobody ain't really no story nobody can say they got cursed out by denzel watson except me. What do you curse you out for?

Acting a fool. Acting a fool when I was tough when I was, you know how to, you know how to the NFL team. Acting disgruntled and we're trying to get out of Cincinnati. And the Redskins are off of Cincinnati two first round picks. And the Bengals and Mike Brown was like, uh-uh.

You ain't fin to set that precedent. Think all you got to do is act a fool and we're going to trade you up out of here. Man, bring your head back down. So he, he was getting on me. We were sitting the course side. had my son with me.

LaCeJ was, I don't know how LuceJ was about baby. Well, damn, mother, you looked like you 17? What year was this? Was the internet even available back then? That's what I'm saying, Don't do it be like that. Yeah, but, uh,

Oh Joe, what year was this? Cussed my ass out. I don't, I don't remember. I don't remember. I took, I got, matter of fact, I got tickets from Kobe. Kobe, Kobe got me course sassy. Because you know I wouldn't pay him

no course asses. Not back then. Shit. it. But that was, that was, that was, that was a great experience, man, and being able to sit next to and getting my ass cussed out. My son don't know what's going on. He looking at, he's looking the wrong way. Yeah. He, uh, I mean, I'm looking at it. That looked like it's about 2009. Yeah, okay. Yeah, around then, maybe 2008, 2009, because I remember I was, I was, I was in trouble. The bank, I, man, I was, I was, I was trying to get up out of it. We had just had a losing season.

And I was trying to do things behind closed doors. And I obviously, you know, they always leak shit. Somebody always leaks something. Well, you can't keep them behind closed door. Because you already be talking about you. You'd be on toes and elbows and all kind of holes. Yeah. Ain't nothing wrong.

Listen, we're going to get you on some toes, man. We're going to get you on some toes. I don't know who. Pig feet. I'll be on them. I'll be on some big feet. Listen, if you can eat pig feet, if you get raccoon, soup and all the other stuff.

And if you get road kill and whatever else you be eating, you can suck on some toes. But I'm just said, don't you want to muscle with it. see you off the muscle with that. Ocho, can we work up to that? There is no reason at our big age that we can meet somebody on the first date and go all in.

What are we waiting for? So you want me to show up all my I mean, excuse me, all my tongues to be the middle of the table. Yes. Yes. When you play, I don't even play poker. I ain't even know gambler. You know how you, when you're all in?

Or are you put all in? Same way. So normally when they go all in, I mean, sometimes they try to bluff you off a hand. But a lot of time when they go all in, Ocho, they got, they got, they got, they got it. They got the goods. Nah.

No. No. Listen, life is short. And you never know when it's time to go. So whenever you have an opportunity, you need to go all in. Well, I need to see, you know, I need to see the flop. You know, the flop is the first three cards. And I hell, I might need to see the turn, which is the next car.

Okay. And then the river's on the end. Okay. So you, you speak in terminology that I don't understand. I was with you for a minute, but I don't gamble, so I have no idea what you're talking about. I mean, I don't know what you. So, you know, I've known Denzel

because his son used to train with my trainer, John David, when he went to Morehouse. And so I met him a couple times. And then just this year when LeBron broke the record, he was at the game. And I got an opportunity to talk to him. Actually, I hadn't seen him personally since John David was a student at Morehouse.

And so it was great to catch up with him. And I got an opportunity to meet his wife, John Davis mom, Pauletta. It was great talking to her and meeting her. And Denzel has been great. You know, actually, they filmed the movie Glory in Savannah. Hey, glory. Man, listen.

That was his first, that was his first role. Best Supporting Actor with Matthew Broder was the lead. When we talk about movies, and I don't think a lot of people in the chat have seen Glory, if you would ask me the name my favorite Denzel movies Glory's always been number one.

It's always been number one because Denzel is one of the few actors a lot of people love to say he played the same character where he played the same character to you because you don't watch the rest of his movies glory he had range.

John Q is completely different character from who he was in glory and then when he's in fences fences is a completely different character from the person in John Q and glory. That is the range in the Denzel that I've grown to love. And if you ask people, what's your favorite Denzel movie? They say the same stuff.

They say Training Day. Malcolm X. They say Malcolm X. They say Man on Fire. He's a great method hacker. He's one of the method actors. So him playing the role of somebody else is easy because it's art. That's what he does.

He gets into character extremely well. When you watch Training Day, that's Denzel. If you sit down and talk with him, that's him. He's not even acting. He's just being himself. And you would never understand it until you actually meet him and sit down and have a conversation with him. There are a few people on earth. And one of your good friends and one of my good friends is one of them as well that can command the ear when they talk.

Denzel is one of them. Ray Lewis is another one. Dionne Santa is another one that can command the air when they talk. I'm talking about it's captivating when they speak. In the way they word things and the dialogue, it's just, it's unbelievable in a sense. I don't even know, I don't know how to explain it. It's something about Ray, when Ray get to preaching or Ray get to talking to you or Dion get to talking to you. And we talk about it in a serious manner.

Not the Dion, everybody on the chat got to see. I'm talking about something that got to do business or something they have to do with life or relationships or something like that. thought it's unbelievable seeing them get in that mode of serious your top five uh movies was inside man i love that movie with clive owens and uh oh yeah that's a jody foster uh quatel edger four and uh christopher plumber yeah um oh no these are mine so i got training day my top five was training day malcolm x fences crimson tide cry freedom i I don't know if you remember cry freedom. You should did your top ten.

Okay, we're here. You should get top ten. I got an inside man, devil and blue dress. Okay. Harlem night, man on fire. Look, I love American gangster. I love a deja vu. I love, you know, I mean, look, it's so hard.

Hurricane, it is just so hard. Oh, Rupert Carter. Rubikata, that's good one. Because he plays the role so well. Well, yeah. A flight. I mean. A soldier story.

Yeah. Soldier story. That's old school. Pelican brief. Hey, listen, Pelican brief. All right. My top ten, obviously, number one is glory. Two and John Q.

Three is fences. Four, for me, is priest's wife. Then I'm going Malcolm X, man on fire. Remember the goddamn tie. I get down with that. Inside man, then I got flight, then I have training day. Hey, we didn't even mention American gangster. Think about if it bad can get.

But that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's Denzel. That's him. He don't really, he didn't have to do much, you know, he's in character. He's pulled these, he's portraying Frank Lucas, but it's still. Moe Bell. I don't know how to explain it. Mo Better. Mo Better Blues is good, boy.

People, people don't remember him. That was, really, that's the only movie I can remember. He played devil and blue dress, which was a comedy. With the, what's the guy's name? Mouse. What's the black guy name? He from Denver. Denver East High School.

Ooh. What's the actor in Devil and Blue Dress? That's my guy. Don Chito. Don Chito. Oh, John. That's my, that's my. That's my bad.

I couldn't think of his day. He's from Denver. I used to see him all the time. Went to Denver East High School, man. But then, I mean, it just goes to show you Denzel how long he's been great. Yeah. That's, I mean, it shows you how long he's been great. Not good.

Great. Great. Great. And so, you know, I love, I'm like I said, I mean, I've seen just about everything. you know, everything that, uh, Philadelphia. I don't know if you remember the Philadelphia with, uh, Tom Hanks. Philadelphia was good. Tom Hanks was another one.

They got range. Woo. Yeah. I mean, big and flat. And we, you know, oh, man, Philadelphia with him and, and road to perdition. Uh, uh, forest gump. I mean, look, I don't know. Yeah.

Oh, man, listen. Those are some of my, my favorite actors when we talk about rains. Tom Hanks. Obviously, Denzel. Uh, remember, you know, Ever, Edward. Yeah, North. Yeah.

Primal fear. It was known from Prime. From Prime Fear. Prime Fear. What was that movie he was in where he was a gay that had all them tattoos? Oh, my history. Yeah. Man, that was a good one.

That was a good one. What about, God, Lee, it's slipping my mind. McAvoy. James McAvoy. Do you saw split? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Absolutely, yeah. Man, they're crazy, crazy range.

I mean, guys, they got, you know, another guy that doesn't get the credit for the range and he's past, Robin Williams. Who? Robin Williams had crazy range. Rob was a real deal. Great. He was a real deal. Look, I love him. I love Samuel Jackson.

Missed outfire, the pier pan. From Samuel Jackson when he was, what's the one? Remember Sammy Jackson was holding up McDowell's? He was sweeping the floor. From the time he was Gator. He was in all-star wars. He was in the Bondi. he's, you know.

What's the one where he was the teacher? Coach Carter? A professor. No, no, no, no, no. Oh, you're talking about Samuel Jackson. I was talking about Rob Williams. What was the movie? You're talking about, he was Mr.

Not Doubtfire. I know exactly what you're talking about. It was more of a serious movie. I know he was a professor. I can't remember the name of it. What was that by? I can't, oh, I can't think of it. I know exactly what you're talking about.

But, man, Ocho, you have 20 minutes to survive, just 20 minutes for $100 million to survive one. You got to survive a bear, a tiger, a crock, or a hippo. Which one you take it? We all dead. You crazy. We are. Come on, man. For one, hippo.

You're not, you're not. First of all, the hippo is the most dangerous. because they kill more people in Africa than any of them. In Africa than any other animals. That's why that's why you said you saw. That's the first thing I named and I said you're not survived. That's what Robin Wee was in. Deadport Society.

Somebody just put it up in a check. Deadport society. That's it. That's it. All right. Number two. What was it? What was it?

What was it? A bear? A tiger? A crock or hippo. Oh, well, Croc would be your best bet. I got it. I got it.

I got it. I got it, I got it. I had to hear it. I just got to get him on his back. All I got to do. See, all of his pressure is doing this. Yeah, and the jaws. Must I keep his got his mouth closed, I got it.

Flip him on his back. Wait, hold on. Do you know how strong? Do you know how strong? For a hundred mill? Man, you're going to get yourself hurt, man. You're going to have a missing arm. You're going to have a missing leg.

I'm going to have a guy. And I'm going to have, I'm going to have Gator tail for lunch. I'm going to have a hundred million. You're going to have a hundred meal with one arm. Oh, so I got this. I got this. Uh-huh. No, you don't undo.

Please don't under- underestimate the strength of a animal. I'm going to have a gator tail and I'm going to have me some fresh boots. Uh, we talk about animals. I'm an animal. We're talking about animals. You do realize the most dangerous animal ever created as a man. They cause more destruction than any animal ever.

Yes. Yes. Yes. When we, when we, when we are equipped to destroy. Only rats in mosquitoes have caused more destruction. I'm taking my chance. I'm taking my chance with the crop. Give me the crop.

Give me the crop. You're not going to make it, don't you. There's so many different variables that come into play. The size of the crock, are you in water or you're on land? I want them on land. I got them, I got a mocho. You know how long 20 minutes? Do you know how long 20 minutes is?

Oh, no, once I get them on the back, I'm going to stay. Hey, I'm going to put it. get him on his back. How are you going to get him on his back? Watch. Don't worry about it. I can't tell you. Because they might put you to it.

Did you get my hundred million? I ain't telling you. But you'll see. You'll see. I got it, Mocha. Hey, you sound like the dudes on Twitter. Talk about, oh, if it was me and a gorilla, you better help the gorilla because I can whip a gorilla,

not understanding the strength and power that these animals possess. Well, first of all, a chimpanzee is two to three times. The chimpanzee is three times. is two to three times as strong as the average man. A silverback is eight times. Time, yeah. I don't think people understand that. They just look at videos and thinking like...

That's your whole muscle. Do you see? All muscle. Man, no, I don't want no part of the silverback. I don't want no part of the silverback. I don't want no part of no grizzly bear. I don't want no part of no tiger because you have to understand what they can take down. I mean, even the crocodile.

Crocodile is less dangerous. I mean, now we're talking about in the habitat. So I feel comfortable more comfortable on the ground than I do. The hippo is just as dangerous anywhere. Man, sh. And land or water. I don't want no part of that. A bear a bear a tiger, they're just as dangerous on either.

Land or water. All poor can kill you on the land. But I like my chances better against the crocodile on the land as opposed to any of these other animals on land. You got no chance with the hippo, the bear. And plus, how, like you said, how big is the, space because you got no chance, you got no chance against a tiger or

I don't care of a dig up and give a damn how big the space is because once it sees you it's a rap. Think about this. You, you, you, you ever had cats before? Have you ever seen a cat's reflexes? Just a regular domestic cat.

Yes, yes. Yes. Yes. You see the reflexes? Now, imagine the reflexes of a lion or tiger. Oh, Joe. You could take a cat. It's even worse. You can take a cat and hold his by his legs and you got him. He's this far and you drop it. That you're gonna land on him feet.

Lailing his feet. Crazy. Unbelievable. Oh, that's why they say, oh, he got cat-like reflexes. They don't say any of, they don't say dog. They don't say any other animal. They say cat light. Yeah, that's what they say about being on that line.

On that line of his image. Jose Cardoza said, Uncinocho, love the show. What's your guy's top five actors or actresses? Top five. I got to go. For me, I'm going with the actors and actresses that I've seen. So I can't go Bogart and I can't go, you know, Brando. Because the only thing I've ever seen of Marlon Brown.

I'm talking about, you've seen the, you know, what you call him? Godfather movies. But the last movie that I actually saw him, that Madden was the island of Dr. Muro. And it wasn't very good. So anybody that saw Brando and his last movie. movie role, the island of Dr. Monroe, it wasn't very good. He had gotten, letting himself get out of shape.

But, and so, but I'm going to go with, like, I've seen in my time, I like Denzel, I like Tom Hanks, I like Robin Williams, I like Daniel Day Lewis. Hey, and I like, I go Sam Jackson for me. Women, I'm going to go Viola Davis. I'm a good one. What's the Val deavis one for me? What's that lady name?

She's been, Michelle, not Michelle. What's the other one name? Merrill Street. Go on Merrill. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Go on Merle. I'm going, oh.

Jody Foster. What you got? Good one. Good one. Hmm. many women is not nearly as easy yeah for women it's harder

all right I forgot I forgot one of the guys that I really like Anthony Hopkins oh yeah Anthony's good really good really good oh man I can't oh Lord have mercy Ocho

women women women come on now it's difficult you know what you know who I like Ocho Octavia Spencer who that Octavia is good Octavia's good And you know what

I like Octavia is really good I was gonna be snide But I ain't gonna say nothing about that man why I take Angela Bassett Very nice It's Tina Turner She plays some good roles Especially in um

Waiting eggs here When she burned that Yeah She plays some good roles Well my five My five favorite actors For me, obviously number one for me is Daniel Day Lewis. I've said that many of times.

Those in the chat, you know Christoph Waltz. Please tell me who Christoph Waltz is. If you don't, please Google him. Denzel Washington, of course. Daniel Day Lewis. Now, like Edward Norton. Oh, you can't have Daniel Day Lewis twice. I said them already.

Okay, okay. My bad, my bad. Edward, Edward Norton and James McAvoy. I know everybody in the chat. I know you know who James Jackal boy is. He's the real MFF deal. The real deal. As far as

women go, you know, Merrill Street is my first. My second would be Claire Danes. I'm sure some of you that have seen the movie Temple Grandin. Claire Danes is the real deal. I forgot the sitcom. She was on it as well. Number three for me.

You like Christopher Watson and glorious bastards and Django, huh? Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. He's amazing. He's great. Yeah, very good, very good actor. And the hateful eight. I don't know if you saw The Hateful Eighth.

First off, Walses is at Hateful Eight too with Samuel Jackson. Very good movie. God, Lee, women is hard. I got to go with Angela Bassett as well. Scarlett Johansson. Julia Roberts. Julia is unbelievable. But I don't think people don't realize.

I think for me, Jody Foster doesn't get to. credit that she deserves because she was nominated for a award, I think, at like 14, and then in silence of the lambs. Yeah. Anthony Hopkins. Man, that Clarice Stalin? Clarice. Oh, what about, it's so many, you know, I got to go with Ms. Viola Davis in jail. Oh, no, oh, snap.

What about, um, Namdi, Namdi's wife. Okay, in Washington. Gary Washington. She's good. She's good. She's good. I think the roles that they get aren't as prominent as, you know, the Claire Danes and the Merrill Street. But I think what has happened now that when we see Merrill Street, we already think, okay, that rolls go.

That's Oscar. So we don't really, we don't, like I said, a lot of these, you know, every role is not, but it's just like, it's just something about Merrill because she's been nominated so many times. It's kind of like, they gave such an outstanding performance. we just, even though the road might not have been meant for an Oscar, they give you Oscar worthy performance. Oxford worthy, yeah, most definitely.

You know, even though my boo thing or Regina, you know, Regina Hall. Yeah. Oh, that's your boo thing now. Let me know if you want me to put a word in for you. Regina King is another one. Yeah, Regina King. Yeah. That's a good one.

That's a good one. People are Pam Greer. Patrick Willery asked, Would you entertain the idea of going on bare grills? And Ocho, would you go on hot ones? And Ocho, that's a lot of money for the swear jar tonight. Yeah, you know, you don't have some money. You don't have a lot of money for that.

Wait, money for what? Curse words? I ain't even cursed tonight. What you're talking about? They didn't keep it count. I ain't been keeping count. They even keeping count. I guarantee you, I ain't cursed more than twice.

Well, well, don't worry about it. Put it in the jar. That's only $10. Sidney Portier, people got Sidney Portier. You know what? Who we left off? Sidney 48 was the real deal. You know who we left off, Ocho?

Hillary Swank. Man, what did you know by Hillary Swank, man? But our first Oscar came for, Boys Don't Cry, About Brandon Tina. I ain't see that one. I remember a million dollar. You got to see it, Ocho. You got to see.

Wait, what's the first one called? Boys Don't Cry. What's the name of? You got to see this movie. You got to see this movie. You got to see this movie. see this. Boys don't cry. Wait.

Hillary Swank? Baby. You seen the movie Boys Don't Cry before? Okay. She ain't seen there. You gave her something to watch. Man. He is amazing. It's based on a true story. Wait, do I need tissue? You're going to need tissue at the end. Oh, shit. You're going to need tissue at the end. You know, you know, I get emotional now.

You see you that? You can't have me. Yeah. Yeah. You're going to cry. You're going to see it. You're going to cry then. And like I said, it's a true story. Right. Yo, what about Sandra Bullitt? I like Sandra Bullitt.

I like Sandra Bullitt. Yeah. Yeah. Sandra Bullitt. I'm trying to think who else. Yo, what about Monique? Oh, Monique in the category. But she wasn't in enough roles.

But when she played that role, right. Which one? Precious. Oh, man. that was that was a performance yeah that was a performance that's that's acting uh people jane jane fonder but jane i mean she had some roles nine to five with lillie tomlin and all those but she was a little bit before my time um like i said i'm kind of going staring you know to like my my my era that i remember going to see and watching them um although i'm a little bit older to you

Yeah Angelina Man speaking Michelle Piper Angelina Jolie Oh you know what we got Sharon Stone No

Sharon Stone Charleston In Marston When she played Ali Warrenos Yeah Big Ali Big Ali they play the drum

Big Aline ain't played Hey She put that 22 on them She put that thing on them A lion ass That was classic A lie that ass That was the right name because she was a monster.

Yeah. Yeah, man. Oh, damn. What about, What about Holly? Meg Ryan. Taraji Piansson. Nice.

Meg Ryan. Well, shit, we might, if we, Meg Ryan, we should have went goddamn, um, Charlie's Angels. Um, uh,

Cameron Diaz. Hell, hell, Lucy Lou. No, I'm Lucy. She ain't better than enough, O'Jof.

Sally Field, yeah I mean Sally Field cool Oh yeah I can go throwback We forgot O'Far's welcome I go I go

I go I go The last King of Scotland Eardby That was a good one That was a good one I can go throwback too You know who we forgot

Who Al Mofo Pacino Yo Yeah If we're going Al Pacino We might be go Robert De Niro too We didn't put Leo in there, Leonardo DiCaprio.

Oh, shit. See, I see. Now you don't got my, you got a, you got my memory. But see, here's the thing, no, Ocho, when you limited to five. Now, you're talking about, and I'm just, we just limited to five of people that, that we watched. Man, we ain't put Humphrey Bogart. We ain't put none of those. Yeah, we ain't put none of those.

James Cagney, Jimmy Stewart. We ain't put none of them. Man, listen. go back. I can go, I can go back further. I can go back to the Etherwater Waters, the Lino Morne, Cab Calloway, Fats Domino, man, don't, man, don't maybe open it. You ever saw green, you saw a green past year? I did not. Stormy weather? Nope. Cabin in the sky. I know about a ribbon in the sky.

Tell, tell, tell, tell one of them, these are old school movies. This is what my, my grandma had me watching. Stormy weather. with Lena Horn. Cabin in the Sky, I think Ethel Waters and Ocho. Is it Gabe? Neither one of them mentioned Tom Cruise. Oh, shit. I forgot all about Tom. Jamie Fawkes.

Oh, hey, Jamie, Jamie's a Ranger boy. Jamie Rangy boy. Jamie is. Yeah, yeah. Ereis Abba, Morgan Freeman. I've got to go. Shawshade, Shade, Redemption. wait listen we'll be here all day oh yeah oh yeah uh matthew young i'm you la vodka man but i just ordered a bottle of laparthe by shea just to support you

matthew i appreciate that thank you very much and now when you get your bottle and you taste it i need you to jump back in the chat and let me know what you honestly think upper king eight background looking better ohcho success nothing less nightcap crew worldwide but it took about my background oh my camera i finally i finally i finally got my camera fix. I like to apologize for those that have been watching me sometimes and sometimes my camera ain't right. It's a little cloudy. Listen, I tried to get the cheapest camera possible. As you can see tonight,

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Yeah, that's my line. That's my line. We appreciate the support. Now, he doesn't want to ask a question. Devin Hester, the King of Return Specialist, Dionne Sanders, prime time of the human joystick, Dante Hall. As NFL players, who you pick it?

well look David Hester the greatest return ever now yeah as far as just like shake you up ain't nobody touching Dante Hall Dante Hall

what Barry Sanders was to a running back at the kick return game he was that as a kick return the puff return right and normally you don't teach

a returner to do all that herky jerky just like hit the hole but man that joke of their man he put a lot of people on the dirt Dante Hall he made he made moves with a purpose.

He wasn't making moves just to make a move. He's making moves to go north and to go north. He might got to go east and west, but he's making the moves east and west to get north. Harry donated $100. I'm putting $100 on the Browns, Lions, Super Bowl. What's up, Uncan, Ocho? Wait, wait, Super Bowl.

What are you playing, Matt? That man said, hey, he must be, he tried to retire from work because $100 on $1 on, One of them get to the soup bowl and one of them winning it. Oh, that's going to pay him some big bucks and no whamies. A lot of money. A lot of money. Yeah.

Forgot about Eric McCabe with a great return of Mel Gray. Who else we got? Pimp and Sneaks. Please answer my question. How do you guys feel about fans coming up to players out in public when you're with your family? I'm a huge fan of you guys on and off the field. I love it. If anybody is in the chat, I'm sure it is that have met me before.

I apologize for invading your space. People walk up to me. I told you before. We talked about it before. Man, I act like I've known people 30 years. I act like I just got a jail. Man, I'm hugging. Man, trying to.

Don't shake my hand, man. Bring your ass in here, man. But it's weird. And it throws people off sometime because I always greet everybody with a, I love you and a hug. And we sit there and hold a conversation. Like, I have known they asked all my eyes all. my life. Before I answer that, my part of the question, please make sure you hit that like button. Make sure you hit that subscribe button. You can subscribe to Nightcast Feed in the Nightcast

podcast. You can also get it through the club Shay Shea Feed. Just do us a favor. Make sure you subscribe to a nightcap. We've also penned Shea by La Portier at the top of the chat. The holidays right around the corner. New Year's, Valentine's Day, St. Patrick's Day, President's Day, whatever you want to celebrate, Leportier is the drink that you can celebrate with. Back to to the question. Let me, let me find that. Okay,

he's asking, coming up, look, the only thing that I hate is that when people come up, say, hey, you're going to take a picture

with me or sign this autograph. Damn, like that. You see, you see the, thank you. Thank you.

No, bro, can you ask? Hey. That was, that was aggressive. And that's how people come up.

Like, hey, take a picture with me, or sign an autograph. Oh, you're going to sign an autograph for me. Oh, really? You think so? And please, hey, I want to call. Let me call my husband.

Let me call it. I don't want to be on you. I don't want to be on FaceTime. How about we just take a picture together? Right, right, right. And listen, I accept. I may I'm there. Maybe I'm a little different because I'm not in public much.

But when I am, man, I'm all in. I'm FaceTime and people acting like, man, where you at? We are here having fun. You're sitting that fucking home and shit. I just, dude, because it's very seldom that I'm out.

So when I am, I'd be ready for whatever. Hello. Okay. Hey, Hey, Jack said, Hey, Okinotio, love the show here since day one. Can you please wish my,

uh, wish my girl a happy birthday, Whitney. I wish Ocho can sing. Whitney, Hey, Jack. I don't know what is a real name is. but that's his hook.

We can't say. No, we can't say. And Whitney, he wanted to wish you a happy birthday. We want to wish you a happy birthday. Happy birthday. Enjoy the, hopefully you enjoyed this day or if it's tomorrow, enjoy the day and many more to come. So happy birthday, Whitney.

Happy birthday, Witt. Turn up. Marvin Bracey Williams, Jr. donated. And he's asking, appreciate y'all giving track. I thought that was you, Marvin. And tell Marvin, tell Marvin, tell Marvin stop being scared to race me, man.

smoke you. I appreciate y'all giving track and feel some love on the podcast. Nah, bro, we know, hey, look, that's my favorite sport to watch. So I know,

you know, 400 meters, you know, look, I'm, I'm a meter. I like the 400, anything,

400, 200, 200, 100, I like that. I like that too. But I just love track and feel. I love the competition.

Yeah. I love track. Obviously, you know, my daughter's at university. You ain't run no track, though. Ocho,

Cinco. You ain't no hour you can't turn your head all the way around. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. I beat Marvin racing than the hundred, though. Ask him, ask him in the chat. Ask him what happened when we raced at Anson Park in Miami. Blue right by him. He didn't know I was that fast.

Hold on. Ask Fred Curley what I did to him. Oh, Joe. You see, the difference between them. See, like, 4-3 is fast for us. I ran 4-1. I ran 4-1. I ran no 4-1. I ain't run no 4-3. I ran 4-1. I mean,

them guys, if they run 4-3-flat, they're going to be disappointed. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. They're running, they're running 4-2. Listen, the 40-yard-dats for the boys,

the drive phase. After 40. Yeah. It might, they might run 3-9, 4-flats south. Easy. Yeah.

With a good start. Easy. Marvin, I love you, baby. Hope everything is good. Presented, man. again, hopefully you have a great year. How you don't have Dan Campbell coach in the year when the lines have been bad

since I've been the last 30 years without a division. One pride. You're right. Dan Campbell has been unbelievable. When he came in there, he was going to bite off kneecaps. We go, hey, we kick it ass and take a name. And here they are, top of the NFC North. Congratulations. Yeah, hey, I mean, yeah, they've been bad a long time.

They've had some good players. Good players. You know, I'm old enough to remember when they drafted Billy. Sims, who won the Housman at Nebraska. Excuse me, Oklahoma, I'm sorry. Barry also wore that number. A good friend of mine, Jay Ball was a nose tackle. Robert Porchay with the South Carolina State.

They've had some, you know, obviously Megatron and Matthew Stafford. I know a good friend of mine who's in the Hall of Fame, Liam Barney, he wore 20. It's just something about that 20. Unfortunately, nobody was going to be able to get it now because Liam wore it. Billy Seams War and Barry Ward. So they've taken it out of circulation now. But, yeah, obviously Dan Campbell deserves some coach of the year. And he might win it.

I mean, it's going to be hard. I mean, you look at this, they still have an outside chance of getting home field throughout the playoffs. I think that would go a long way. A, Marvin said, Ocho, you lie. He said, you don't want no smoke. Beat the brakes on Herman Moore. Yeah, Herman, you're younger than me.

Herm. Hey, remember Johnny. Yeah. They had a, Brian, uh, no, what's the guy named? Oh, man.

Perriman, Brett Perriman. Oh, Brett Paramarman. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Marvin said, oh, Joe,

you don't want no smoke. You don't want no smoke. Man, man, listen, man, Marvin don't want to do that with me, man. Listen, I give, I give Marvin five,

10 meter head start. In what a mile? Like, I'm like that. No, in the 60. In the 60, in the 60, in the 60 out of 100. Them guys get out too good, don't you? You ain't spot nothing.

I told, I told you none of them get out the way I get out. Check this out. I told you none of them get out. I do block work with these boys. Listen to me, I do block work with them. They come to me, they ask me, boy, how you transition like that out of blocks. And I'll tell them. Check this out.

What's that? The top guys won't give any of the other guys a five meter head start. and nothing. Right. Or five y'all here starting nothing. So what that takes about me? That's how close it is.

Because a tenth of a second. Yeah. That's what I'm trying to get you to realize. Oh, Joe. Before I'm willing to give my five meters. Oh, my boy, low brown. Low Brown with a left tackle for the, for the,

Lovis. Yeah, low. Yeah. I know longness. Man Wilson, I just ordered my third bottle of shade. Absolutely love it. Can I get a discount code?

You know what? We're going to put one in there. We're going to get you a discount code. Third box. Third box. It's good. I ain't going to lie to you, Cho. All right.

Well, when we hit that million subs, I'm going to take me a drink. Matter of fact, I'm going to drink the whole bottle, too. Straight to the head. Baby. Baby. Baby.

She says she's sleep. She always sleep. Uh, baby. Chris from Vegas. Uncle Nocho, I'm about to turn 40 for the first time of my life. Well, I hope so. Hell, I don't know anybody else to turn 40 twice, but okay, I get what you go. I'll start.

I'll start to stare at my mortality in the face. And if I, bro, you 40. Yeah. Wait, if you, are you in Vegas, if you in Vegas hit the Bunny Ranch. Bro, you 40. You know something we don't know? Boy, hey, if you live in Vegas, they go, um,

like do stuff you've never done before like, like I did. Like I went to Vegas and I tried out for the Chippendales. Hey. Hey, you know, I'm thinking by doing somebody that was done, but it don't involve no toes. That's for show.

I don't know. I might do something, you know, might do something for two something. I got plenty of time. I like that. Yeah, but, uh, Chris, you only be talking like that, bro. You, you're 40 years old.

I mean, and you're talking about staring mortality. Mortality. Listen, and you hit 40, man, that big 40, you got to do stuff you've never done before. You're in Vegas too.

But he ain't being 40. I was doing that in 25, 30. Hell, I ain't waked up 40. Right. But maybe he's living different. Maybe he's living different. Yeah. You're taking life slow.

I already told you, old show, good times. My grandmother should say all the time. Good time. They go, that boy, nothing. She's right. Tell me, you only live once. Do it right.

That's all you should want. Well, you know what? You need to start doing it right. I can't do it wrong. I don't know how to do it wrong. Yeah, well, sure, if you ain't, if you ain't stuck in no toes, I'm doing it. See, there you go.

You do it too much. I'm, I'm just saying. She better put some off theail gravy on it. You won't be. And you won't be. Nah, you don't need all that. All you need is some whipped cream for behind and some toes along as you find. I'm good.

I'm pet. Yeah, you heard me right. All you need is some whipped cream for behind and some toes. she's fine. That's it. You don't need nothing else. I need something else. I might need to drink that whole bottle. Or what? They're behind me.

Eric Hall says, I'm upset with you. You only call out certain day, certain day ones. I've been rocking with you since CBS. I'm a truck driver. Eric, I appreciate that, bro. You know what? If I'm not mistaken, I think I used to follow me. I think I've responded to you a couple of time on Twitter. I'm almost certain. Because this name sounds very familiar and the way it's felt.

I'm almost certain I've responded to you here. So I appreciate the support. And that goes back because I started at CBS in 2004. So if you've been rocking with Unkway back then, man, I greatly greatly appreciate that. What else we got, Ash? What you got, Ocho? Anything else?

Hold on. Before you go, hold before you go. Please make sure you hit that like button. Make sure you hit that subscribe button. We're now, let's see where we are, 568, right? Let's sing a song anyway. No, no, no, no. You do realize that's copyright infringement.

No, no, we're not doing that. Well, let's sing my song. How many? Okay. We're 30 away from 569,000 subs. I was hoping we could get the 570 before we got off here. So we're going to stay on just a little while long, hopefully, hey, tell your friends, tell your wife, your mom, any friends, any cousins, any

co-workers, go hit that subscribe button. and jump on here with an unko nocho, nightcap, uncanocho. Please make sure you hit that like button. Make sure you hit that subscribe button. Thank you. You can subscribe to the feed through the nightcap feed or the club Shea Sheafe feed. Either one is fine, but the nightcap, we do have our own podcast feed. We've also pinned the link by La Porte at the top of the chat, holiday, New Year's, Valentine's Day, President's Day, St. Patrick's Day, right around the corner.

You can go get your bottle for you or something. one that you love. Okay, we're 569 now. For recap, the Browns beat the Jets, 3720. Really wasn't that close for game. We discussed Russell Wilson getting benched. Seems like the Broncos are ready to move on, and they benched Russell to make sure he doesn't get hurt,

and they're not on the hook for any more money. The Packers suspend Jahir Alexander for doing something what they deem conduct detrimental to the team. What else we got, Ocho? Lamar says he's not taking the bait, that the Braves are underdog, and they're going to approach it like that for the rest of the season.

Hey, that's going to be a very good game. Oh, it's going to be a great game. We didn't touch on that enough. That's going to be a very good game. And as good as the Dolphins' offense is, as the same thing we thought about Mike Florio, was he said, oh, the 49 is going to kick the 40, I mean, the 49ers are going to kick the Ravens.

You know what? Well, you saw what happened, right? You saw what happened? You're talking about no, dude, no, you got to play the game. Yeah, you, hey, they, Tua, Tours is going to have to play outstanding football. The last time, they played two or through for 447. They came from behind by 14. I think Tyreek Alamonts today, Jail Lamares.

They played a lot of man coverage. Yeah. What's them? Them the bunny rabbits. Am I right? Maybe. I don't know. I don't wear them.

I don't wear Jordan. For a nominal fee, I'll sell them to you, Ocho. I don't wear them. Let me show you, let me say what kind of shoes you need to wear.

Hold on. Oh. Oh, they got the thing in the tongue. They made 2,059 pair. This is number four. This is my first time saying this. This is a 457. Man, that's those those stand-by-the-grill, three-thous.

That's those... That's those... That's those grill at three-thousand. And these my little toga slas. He's my little toggis. You got to get you some of these. Man. You won't wait?

What you got? I mean, hold on. They don't have a... They got a buckle. And they slide. Right. Yeah, these are my little slid, my little toga slide. Like when I want to be fashionable.

You don't like that? No. I sure hope you got some baseline for those heels. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, my, listen, I get a pedicure and manicure every Friday. Don't do that. Yeah, that's so, ooh. Every Friday, you know, I don't, listen.

I can't be the way I am about a women's upkeep and maintenance when it comes to her hands and feet and don't have mine together. Yeah. You know, I'd be on point. that's those grilling, that's those grilling, those fours. So thank. I get you. Huh? No, I'm good.

I'm a hold off. I'm a hold off. You're a 13, right? I'm a 13, right? I'm a hold off on those. I'm a hold off on those for the time being on, Joe, but I really appreciate that. That's fashion, man.

That's fair. You can wear them on first thing. Oh, no. So again, make sure you hit that like button. Make sure you hit the subscribe button. We're now officially at $568,000. make sure you subscribe to the nightcap podcast feed.

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I got a banger coming. I'm coming out to game. Listen, I promise you. And I don't like to make promises because promises like pie crust and thin and easily broken. The first month, I'm committed to give a y'all. Oh, nothing but heat. Now, listen to me. Now, listen.

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We went about two and a half hours. I wrapped it. I had another. I wrapped it. He didn't even let, he started. He started. He went 30 minutes before I could even ask him a question. He coming.

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