The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Nightcap - Unc & Ocho react to Dak & Cowboys dominating Commanders, 49ers class of NFC, Teyana-Iman drama

Episode Date: November 24, 2023

On a Thanksgiving episode of Nightcap, Shannon Sharpe & Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to Brock Purdy & the San Francisco 49ers taking on Geno Smith and the Seattle Seahawks (6:15), Dak Prescott's monster game in the Dallas Cowboys win over the Washington Commanders (14:15), Jordan Love leading the Green Bay Packers over Jared Goff and the Detroit Lions (43:15), Jim Irsay's controversial comments (55:30), Teyana Taylor fling for divorce from Iman Shumpert (01:16:00) and much much more! (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Club #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Happy Thanksgiving. Hopefully you were surrounded by. loved ones and family and friends. And it was a very enjoyable day. Got an opportunity to eat a lot of food, see some good football. Well, okay football. But the teams that won played really good football. They quarterbacks,

every quarterback on a winning team played really, really well today. Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. Make sure you click that subscribe button. Thank you for helping us get to $330,000 at the start of tonight. So Ocho, look like we're going to be getting away that money on Monday, bro, because

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They made some throws that were very, very impressive. Green Bay was very, very impressive. We're going to get to them a little later. But let's talk about the Seahawks and the 49ers. They went out there. The 49ers did. Got the ball goes right down the field, scored touchdown, and they didn't look back. So what was some of your takeaways from this ball game?

All right. My first takeaway, forgets stats, forgets what the 49ers did today as a whole as far as the game is concerned. The 49ers team collectively is almost unfair when everybody is healthy. Yeah. Debo, I.U. Trent Williams. Then on defense, that's secondary. Travius Ward.

Yeah. Everything else they got going on. They had everybody in goddamn clamps. And it's to me, in comparison for me, I'm not even a basketball fan, but I remember hearing all the grice about people, let's say comparison to the Golden State Warriors when they had Kevin Durant, where it was almost fair from, obviously now, from an offensive standpoint, but also the defense and just as good. So when you think about the 49ers, for me, specifically, when I think about the 49ers,

Every team in NFL has an identity. Either your offense is great or your defense is great. It's never both. But when it comes to the goddamn 49ers on both sides of the ball, they are equally as yoked and it's almost unfair. If they don't win the Super Bowl this year, then something is wrong. They look really good. They really, man, Purdy, obviously you said he was 21 for 30 for 29 yards.

He had a TD unfortunate interception. Debo Samuio Samu was an animal, man. Yeah. He was the animal today and picked up where he left off. Obviously, he's been back a few games due to injury that he had. I don't like the fact they didn't use Brandon Ayuk enough today. And he was kind of left out. He had a touchdown.

I like to consider that I call that garbage time. I consider that garbage time. Other than that, man, that's crazy. I don't even know what to say about the 49ers is because I see no weakness in that team unless people are injured. When people are injured, then it doesn't look too good. It doesn't fare off as well as it does when everybody is healthy. Well, you know, the great equalizer come playoff time is injuries or turnovers. And as long as they take care of them.

And the game probably got a little closer than what it should have been, considering that they had that pick six right at the midway through the third quarter. And, you know, see how to miss the field goal right before the half. Yeah. That really hurt them. But when you look at the 49ers, the way they can run the football now with Christian McCaffrey, you mentioned Debo, George Kittle,

Brandon IUC, C-MAC in the passing game, Debo, offensive line is solid. Yeah, and when Purdy plays like this, because the thing is with him, and if you watch him,

you've got to make him uncomfortable. You've got to make him make every throw, every possession matter. If you let him get out and he can relax because, man, that throw to Iyuk, with that half roll and throwback that deep bang, man, Ocho.

That would nice. You can't walk a ball better to a player than what he did from 25 yards away. That was a, that semi-roll, that was an unbelievable throw, great catch, get the ball into the end zone. But you're right. I thought, I thought Kyle Shanhan did a great job of calling the game, run, sprinkle in, Christian McCaffrey on the arrow route out of the back field, run some more. Hey, we're going to talk to the Debo. The 49ers went in there.

and that's what you do on a short week against a division opponent. You go in, you get them down early, you take care of business, and now we got 10, now we got, we don't play for 10 days. So guess what? You're off. I understand you probably was away from your families on Thanksgiving. But guess what? You got Friday, Saturday, and Sunday off, Ocho.

Oh, yeah. So you're probably going to have Thanksgiving. Most of these players will probably have Thanksgiving tomorrow. When they get home tomorrow, yeah. But guess what? Now, hey, baby, I got two days off. I see y'all money. Kyle probably have to do it like Mike.

You'll probably come in Monday by noon, get your run in, get your lift in, watch the tape. Hey, we're getting ready, getting ready for next week. Listen, they're ready. They're ready. And they deserve it. They deserve to have those days off. Yeah, the defense, the defense had four. They had six sacks a night.

Yeah. Bosa, again, two sacks. I mean, what they're doing. Hard grave. I just, yeah, hard gray, hard grave as well. What they're doing on both sides of the ball is commendable. It's commendable. And most of the time, I've seen Shanahan continually,

continuously have great success in the off season. Great success, I mean off season, great success in season, but come playoff time, can they still keep this momentum going where both sides of ball, they're playing except to well. And you mentioned about making Brock Purdy uncomfortable, but when I watch him in the pocket, he looks so relaxed. He looks so poised. He looks like someone that belongs there, and he's been doing it for a very long time.

So the rush doesn't phase him, the blessing doesn't phase him. and he always has those outlets for him to make sure they stay efficient offensively. Yeah, they look good. They look good. And that's what you want to see. I think right now, I think it's the Eagles. When you really look at it, we'll talk about this after we get through. But the Eagles and the 49ers and followed by the Cowboys seem to be the cream of the crop in the NFC.

Ah, give that. It seems to be the cream of the crop right now. The Eagles, they haven't been as. as dominating as they were last year. But all I know, Ocho, is they find a way to win the ball games. And at the end of the day, when you can not, when you don't play your best football and you still find ways to win, as long as you're not making the mistakes. Because that's what, that's what, hey, look, we're not running the football as well.

We're not, but as long as you're not turning it over, you could, hey, a block here, miss block, hey, we get this block. We got a, instead of a five-yard run, we got a 25-yard run. Instead of a 14-yard run, we got a 20-yard touchdown. those are things that you can overcome. But I like the way they're playing. But the 49ers, the 49ers look really impressive today. The Cowboys dominate the commanders, 4510.

Hey. Dak Prescott, 22 or 32, 331, 4 touchdown. Clean game, no turnovers. Touchdown, the CD Lamb, Brandon Cooks, Rico Dadell, Kvon Turpin. Kvante Turpin, excuse me. Cowboys are now 8 and 3, 1 5 of the last 6. Yeah. What?

Let me take. that that started the game when he hit when he hit Ferguson against that Tampa too yeah you can't throw a ball better than that over the middle to start the game I mean that's what happened he's thinking stop see Ocho C man come on that's what that's why that's why he lead come on now come on you know good what come on let's have let's have a let's have a look

I understand you want to troll a little bit but let's have a real conversation so you're saying Dak is elite you know goddamn well he's elite didn't you just talk about that throw he just made. So not very many. I've seen Tim Tebow make throws. Hold on, stop it. Stop it.

Don't do that. Don't do that. You said a throw. Don't you do that. You said throw. Don't you do that. Don't you do that. You just mentioned a throw that Dack made that only the elite quarterback can do consistently.

Let's, let's stay. Let's stay on. Have you seen him make that throw consistently? Have you seen him go deep into the playoffs consistently? Have you not seen him lead to league in interception consistently? Consistently. We're talking about the day. That's the past, right?

We talk about the past. That's not what you're saying. We're talking about the game today. We talk about the game today, right? Hold on. All we talk about the game to do, Jack had a phenomenal game. Yes, but you didn't let me finish.

What you wanted to do, you wanted to try to troll, so I got to take it now. Because I want to make sure you give Dak's flowers. I'm going to make sure you give it to them today. Bro, are you listening? Ocho, instead of trying to get the fan, I understand. You want to get the people on your side, but I said that can play well. They're on my side. regardless.

They're on my side of regardless. I know, and I know you like that. I like that too. I like when they cheer for you. That means they're going to come to nightcap because we're going to give them, we're going to give them something to laugh and talk about. That 22 or 32, 331, 4 touchdown. Clean game.

Clean game. No time of us. No, clean. You can't play much better than what he played. I saw one, one throw, got away from him. He did immediately. My bad, be cooks. My bad.

I legend that one. I could have put that one on you. Clean game. Cowboys 8 and 3. look, they played the Giants twice. We know what the Giants here. We know what the commanders are. We know what the Patriots.

But the thing that I like the best about what the Cowboys are doing, when they're playing these teams that they're better than, and they should beat the dominating them. It's not a close ball game. See, you beat Washington 17, 20. You beat Washington 2320 when you're so much better talent-wise. Now I'm like, hold on, what's going on? But when you beat a team 45-10, you beat a team 40,

to nothing. You beat a team like they're beating them. It says that you know what, guys, they're peaking. They're rounding in the shape. And I know it's against inferior competition. But what I want to do is to see you guys get going. Now is go time. Inferior. Yeah. What do we need inferior? Inferior. The giant. The giant.

Oh, Cho, stop. Oh, Cho, stop this. Ocho, you know damn well all teams aren't created equal. Stop saying that this the NFL. All right. I could have swore the other 50s on the other side of the team regardless of their plan for we're getting paid millions of dollars to play a goddamn game. That's not. So another word.

So by your estimation, every quarterback in the NFL is Patrick Mahomes because all the quarterbacks get paid. All the quarterbacks are all the defensive linemen are Joey Bosa and Michael Parsons. So what are you saying? But I'm saying it's the NFL. It's the best of the best is the goddamn one percent in the game. So to call that team inferior just because they're losing or they're below 500 the Cowboys.

So all teams. players are equal, top to bottom. Now, you just told me the 49ers. You know that you just told me the 49ers with the, I don't see how they lose. When you name all those defensive players, when you name all those offensive players. The makeup of the players on the team is what makes them that goddamn great.

So the makeup of the giants. Are the makeup of the giants like that? Are the makeup like the Patriots like that? Are the makeup like the commanders like that? Mm-mm. Why not? You just said it. So what is it?

I need you to make up your mind. You've got to pick aside now because you keep jumping over the fence. I'm not jumping over the fence. I'm just telling you. It's the elite of the elite. It's the best of the best. And I just don't like the inferior comment because they are still professional players playing at the highest level.

They are the 1% in the world in the world. Are they not levels? So all professionals are equal. So everybody in the NBA is LeBron James because they're in the NBA. They know. That's an individual. Individual. the world. So every, so every, so every, so every, so every team in the NBA at the time was the

Golden State Warriors. Every team in the NBA was the Chicago Bulls or the Los Angeles Lakers because they're in the NBA. No, I see where you're going with it, but you understand what I'm saying. No, I don't. I just, I don't like the word using the word inferior when it comes to an opponent. So what, what would you like for me? That is also a team that is not well constructed to compete against the better teams. I like that better. I don't like the word inferior. A team that is not constructed to the magnitude of the cowboys having to lose because the cowboys have the better players. I like that better.

I don't like the word of year. It makes it sound like they don't even belong in the NFL. How did you do that? I don't, I'm just telling you, I don't like your wordplay. I didn't like your wordplay on discussing the fact that a team that are below 500, the Cowboys have been able to beat. That's all. That's all.

You can continue. That's all. I just don't like the word inferior. So what would it turn? It makes them feel less than none to me. Oh, Cho. Ocho, all teams aren't created equals. Although you're in the NFL,

there's a restarters, their backups, their special teams players. A lot of times the guys on the special teams, and I started out on special teams, I wasn't to the level that I needed to be to become a starter. Once I became a starter, that meant my play went up and I was able to be a starter. Everybody, everybody isn't on that level.

Even though you're a starter, that doesn't mean I was a starter. I was a starting tight end, but there are tight ends on other teams that wasn't the equivalent or there's quarterbacks that wasn't the equivalent of a start over Patrick Mahone

or even a Dak Prescott. But what I'm saying is that just because a team is constructed of 53 and now I think they have 20 practice squad guys. It's not the same, that's all I'm saying.

Okay, I got you. I get what you're saying. You're saying, well, you're saying that because you use the term inferior, you, I'm making it seem like guys don't belong. No, they belong. You belong because you know the NFL ain't no charity case.

Can you help us win? Can you help us win now? Or do we believe you can help us win down the road? Right. That's how you get on a roster. They've got to see something like, you know what? He might be a year away. But I think if I keep him in the system, I think this kid can be good.

Yeah. So when I use the term, no, it's not a knock to say, oh, this guy doesn't belong in the league. You're in the league, you belong. Now, there have been some guys that's kind of stolen over here years, and they've stated, but that's not here nor there. But I'm just looking at the teams that they beat and how they've beaten them.

That's what I'm looking. Now, look, like I said, it's not so much, Ocho that you win the game, but how did you look and win in the game? Yeah. Go ahead. I have one question too. I know you want to give this big bouquet of flowers to the Cowboys, take off with it.

I said the DAC. I said the DAC. Because the defense is going to do what the defense has been doing. Obviously, there have been some trip-ups. There haven't been some games where they have fallen. And that was my next question to you. I wanted to ask you a question. What do you think about the teams, right? We talk about the domination of the Cowboys. And most of the team that they dominated and played extremely well against have been teams below 500 or maybe right at 500. And the team that have winning records, they haven't been able to beat. So I want to know what is the next step for the the Cowboys and what do they need to do to beat the team that above 500 that they should win, which is similar to playoff games, which they're going to have to face in about three, three, four more weeks. Two of the teams that they beat, what do they have? Outstanding offensive lines. You look at the 49ers. You look at the Eagles.

They lost to the Cardinals, have a couple of bad plays. The Cardinals played well above what we've seen them play with Joshua Dobbs. Joshua Dobbs. And we've seen Joshua Dobbs go to Minnesota and win a couple of games, get hot and win some games. The thing is that what they were able, what Philly was able to do, the 49ers was able to do, was to lock up that offensive line

and not let continuous pressure, not let sacks get the purdy, not let get the Jalen Hertz. And on the flip side, what were they able to do? Get the Dak Prescott, Eagles, and the 49ers. So you've got to be able to block their front.

You've got to, if you can't block that front, you can't beat them. And you've got to get Dak off that spot. Now, Dak has done a great job. Dak has used his legs. Mike McCarthy's done. a great job calling the game. He's moving

him out of the pocket a lot more. He's asking him, hey, bro, if it's not their takeoff, we've got to put more pressure on the defense because the last year and a half, people don't think you run anymore. They don't think you as a way. And I thought he looked lumbresome some of the time that when he's taken off. But

over the last couple of weeks, Dak has looked good running the football. He looked like he did pre-injury before he broke that ankle. But that's what you got to do against the Cowboys. You've got to find a way to neutralize their pressure, but you've got to be able to get pressure. What the 49ers could run the football, Eagles ran to football somewhat, but it's hard to

really say, Ocho, when you're dealing with a division opponent. And that's why I give Cowboys credit also, because of the division opponent, no matter how bad they are, they usually give you a little fight, and they gave them a little fight for a little while, but you see the talent level just rise to the top, and you see they take off against the Giants. You see them take off against the commanders, and that's what you're supposed to do. But the Cowboys, look, the Eagles to do what they did to go in there and basically be down the entire game and error head and find a way to win that game. You saw the 49ers go on the road against a division opponent in a short week and dominate that game.

You see the Cowboys, although they come home, have a trail the entire season. They've been tied, but they have a trail the entire season. Man, that, hey, those are the three best teams. And I think right now, after watching Detroit to play, and we're going to get into that. that game a little bit, Ocho, they're head and shoulders. It's like Eagles, I would have Eagles of 49ers Cowboys. Right. And then down, you go Detroit, you know, go other teams like that.

But right now, the Eagles, Cowboys, and the 49ers are up here and no one else in the NFC is close to those teams. What you think? I like it. I mean, you're right. You're right. You're just curious. I was just trying to think of what would be the next step for the Cowboys. They play so they play exceptionally well in season.

And they obviously in the first round, they obviously, they falter. You know, things go wrong. They don't go the way they should as opposed to how they do like right now. And all I think about is all the time people continuously harping and harping and harping and always saying, you know what, this is our year. This is our year. This is our year. And this is one of the years now that I'm doing stuff like this and show like this with

you. Now I'm paying attention to everything. I'm paying attention to all teams, not just the damn dolphins in the bank. obviously where I played and obviously where I grew up. Now I'm locked in on everybody and I'm like, oh shit. Right. This is good. Now I'm actually focusing on deck.

I'm actually watching it. Well, I always watch all the receiver, but now I'm watching the totality of all games, offensively and devenously. And so I'm like, you know what? The way they look right now, how in the hell? They should win a goddamn Super Bowl. I'm just the way I'm looking at the landscape of everything to this point. If you keep this up, obviously the season, it's not a sprint.

It's a marathon. And you got a peek at the right time. And the way they got them playing right now, I'm thinking after looking statistically, the team that they beat and demolished have been below 500. So I would just curious what your answer would be on what do they need to do to beat those teams that are good like the Eagles, the team that they will face in the NFC. They get the Eagles again in their building. I think they got Buffalo in their building.

So we'll find out a little bit more about the Cowboys. At this point, Ocho, look, we've seen Dak Prescott win a real. of the year. We've seen him have great regular season. Now he's only going to be measured by the success or non-success that he has in the postseason. I don't care if that throws for 5,000 yards. Now he's got to get to that he's got to go far in the playoffs because that's what he's up against because what he's measured against is the other great quarterbacks that won in Dallas. The other great quarterbacks that are playing currently. So if you think about it, there's only a hand, what?

I think it's Mahomes and Rogers are the only quarterbacks to have MVP's. I think it's my homes and Rogers are the only ones to have Super Bowls. Am I correct? Oh, no, Jared Gauth then win. Matthew Stafford won. So there's only like two or three quarterbacks that have MVP's and Super Bowls that are active. That are active. So just imagine now it's going to change because they're not, listen.

At the end of the day, you can say that defense, and they're only going to go as far as Michael, that defense. That's going to have to play well in order for them to win a Super Bowl or to win playoff games in order to get to the Super Bowl. And I'm not saying he has to go 22 or 32 for 3.31 and 4 touchdown. But he's going to have to play well. Because in a lot of games in the postseason, he hasn't played well. The last two years against the 49ers, he didn't play well.

That year they came out here to the Coliseum and played the Rams, he didn't play well. He went to his rookie year. And okay, you chalked that up. but we saw him go to Lambo do a demolition job. And when they came home, had the division of ground there. And we saw what happened. So he's only going to be measured by it.

He's past the point of regular season. He's at the point now. Okay, now, Dak, okay, show me what you got. Show me what you got in the postseason. That's how he's going to be measured. And rightfully so. Check this out. De Ron Blan, I haven't seen anything like this.

Hey, boy. NFL single season record for interception returns for a touch. he got his fifth pick six touchdown. Ocho, we've seen guys. We've seen guys that, man, if he'd have held on to that, that'd have been a pick six. Oh, he'd went to the house. He ain't missing.

He ain't dropping nothing. And the funny thing about it is this, I want people to understand how elite and how great this is what Duran Blan is doing. The game of football offensively is all about timing. Yes. Router time. You have to be able to either gamble

or either guess right or be, extremely great at your technique, reading your keys, using your eyes, knowing when to break, having a film study, studying enough film to know what's coming in front of you to be able to be able to be two steps ahead of the offense and knowing what's coming based on down the distance and based on alignment, stuff like that. Dude, I went back and watched all the picks. This is lined up literal coverage and making a break on the ball and going the other way with it. Yeah, this ain't no tip. I mean, there ain't no tip balls and, oh, is a ball in the air?

No, he is literally locking up, reading his keys, making a break on the ball and going to the house. And the ball is unbelievable. Ocho, the ball is on the out. A lot of them have been outrout. And the ball is a tad behind. That's all you need. And you know all the outrun, Ocho,

that's going to the house if you're behind now. You better throw that ball. So either he catch it or it's incomplete out of bounds. Incomplete out of bounds. Because if you miss, he's on his. help now. Oh yeah. The question is can he hold on to it?

And he hadn't missed. Because last week he got one against Carolina, the dude intercepted the ball did a somersault, got up off the ground and ran it back for a touchdown. But do you understand how good you got to be? Because here's the thing, I can only get a pick if they throw the ball on my way. Yeah.

If they go. They keep testing him. They keep testing. Yes. I mean, the dude has more pick sixes than a lot of your top receiver has touchdown catching. Yeah.

Ocho, I mean, he's when I think of top D.Bs, I'm not banking to him, but he has to be in the defensive player to your conversation with that. With those, how do you, how do you overlook him, Ocho? You can't because he's done something.

There have been many players, some of the greats that have played in this game that have a total of, even Hall of Famers, have a total of six or five pick sixes throughout their career. career. He's done it in a season alone. He's at five right now, right?

Yes, he's five. Oh, you can't, if you play the video game, you play Madden. If you played Madden for 17 weeks and you had a complete season, you can get five interceptments on the goddamn video game, let alone thinking about doing it in real life. That's how good. That's how amazing what he's done. The feat that he's reached and accomplished, this season is crazy.

But, you know, it's a lack of respect for him because, I mean, time would go games. They wouldn't even throw the ball his way. Revis would go game. They wouldn't throw his way. Champ Bailey, Rod Wilson. Some of the greats,

but they're underestimating this guy. He's only in the second year. And so they're like, oh, we're going to test him. We ain't going to mess with Stefan Gilmore, who was a former defensive player of the year. We ain't going to mess with him. Okay.

Pretty soon. Now what you do. And the funny thing about it, this is a great thing for them going into the postseason. Yeah. Oh, yeah. This is the great thing going into the postseason. Because now what you're scared,

you ain't throwing Gilmore's way. But God, damn, If you know if we throw on Blandside, you know what? It's a chance it might get picked. But I know what teams are probably going to do because you're not going to face receivers that are got that goddamn shifting that can actually, I call it getting open on the muscle where you don't need the officer coordinator's help.

Yeah. You don't need them to scheme me. I need to go beat you. Yeah, you don't have to scheme. You don't think they're going to condense the splits, condense the splits and force him to back up in fine ways. You got to use motion, do all type of tricks, be able to be able to throw the ball in the Cowboys.

You got to be able to do some. Because right now what he's done to this point is crazy. Yeah. It's so, listen, I'm so amazing what he's done so far. I had to send him a tweet. I sent Daron Blan a tweet. I say, man, this is a man, young fella. When the offseason come, we got to line that shit up.

Because I don't want to see what that shit. I want to see what that shit like. That's how good it is. But if you think about it, from the looks of it, he don't look like he's not a press corner. He's off. Yeah, yeah. But you missed.

To me, you can take, you can attempt. of this being a receiver, it's much easier when you got to do it off. To me, all you got to do is run, step on his toes and beat him out of transition and make a play on the ball. And he's still picking it off. He guessing. He doesn't know what I'm got. I know what I got.

Because I can run the speed out. I can run the end. I can run the dig. I can run the goal. I can run the bang. Hey, now I understand he's trying to guess formation wise. Okay. Okay, this formation, this down in distance, this area of the field.

They like to do this. but I'm studying tape looking at his, looking at where he's positioned. Oh, okay. He's positioned like this. You try to take that bang away. Oh, okay. I think I can run the eye.

Hey, this is how he played. He played me heavy inside. So it's going to be hard for me to get inside. Hey, yeah. Oh, we're going to do some things now. We're going to, you're not just been to sit and just drive on the out route now. That ain't been to happen. Yeah, I've watched some of his tape.

And he reminds me of his transition is so quick. His feet is so quick. His hips are really, really good. It reminds me of Asante Samuel. Yeah. Sante Samuel in that T-step. I mean, Asante, I'm looking at Duran. I'm looking at Asante, the way they play the game.

Those first three steps of the receiver, he didn't even look at the receiver. He didn't look at the receiver. Yeah. Boom. And he gets eyes back on the receiver. And he then took his three steps. And he's settling. Yeah.

He's settling because every ride out of the receiver. where he doesn't pick the ball, the receiver is giving away indicators, oh, I'm getting ready to break. Or they're raising to get up out route. Even though the ball is behind, he reading his keys, the goddamn receiver is giving everything away. Right. Everything away.

I don't mean to get into, you know, the technical stuff aspect of it. But the thing is, Ocho, they take the ball and the shotgun snap and the quarterback going three steps. Well, which is like a five or seven step drop, but he's already begun. So he's not doing conventional up under the center, taking it. that deep seven step drop. So he's in the gun. He's only taking a couple of bounces back.

So he's like, okay, the ball fin to come out. Yeah, got to. If you're a quarterback and you stop, that means you're getting ready to throw the football. Throw the ball. So why am I going to keep backpedaling and you've already stopped your drop? Yeah.

It's just, it's just common sense. I see the way you angle. I see the way you angle. Okay. You're getting ready to break on something. I got a step on your toes. And then I got to step. I got to stack you because

I can't let you I just can't let you run me and push me to the side because that's where a lot of receivers make the mistake Coacho they run the goal route and instead of stacking him, putting him in a trail position you let him run beside you and all he's going to do is just put forward to you and they say you know your quarterback got to throw it.

Listen, perfect. You got to throw a perfect ball because the sideline is that the sideline is the defense. That's another defender. It is. You got to get into them. Everybody, everybody trying to use speed. They're trying to just widen and release

and get out, all they're doing is just ride them, stand right on the hip. And most of those that can play the ball, they look back and those that can't, they just play the hands. Nope. I'm trying to put you, I'm trying to stack you and put you in a trail position.

So now the quarterback, you don't have to, you know, this little spot right here. No, he got all this, all this, all this, because you're in the trail position. You're behind me. Yeah. But, you know, like you said,

it's kind of like, like, when you're in television, Ocho, and they teach you how to read the prompter, they always tell you you got more time to your thing. Yeah. And that's one of the things I would tell the wide receivers. You got more time to your think. Time to you. Don't rush it.

Because you rush it, quarterback, and think about it. Plus, Ocho, you got to let the quarterback, he and the gun, you got to get the ball. Yeah. So you, oh, I'm open that clock. He already got the ball yet. Yeah. He got the ball yet. And every, and the funny thing about it, and this is, no, no, no, no, you know,

just my receivers that know y'all are going to see everybody doing the same release. they hezy hezy skip skip skip off the line and just go hezy hezy skip skip and then go and the dbs ain't falling for it all they do is hit a shoulder pad and turn and run and ride you and turn and run everybody doing the same the same thing nobody yeah everybody try to do that devonte that's the devonte adam that's the diva basically hezzy hezzy skip skip and go and the thing see now They don't let you get that physical because back when I first got into the lead,

if you hands it, you'll run through your chest. Man, man, they'd choke you to death, man. Listen. And they come right up through here. You ever had, you ever played again Dale Carter? Yeah, DC, yeah. Oh, he was in Kansas City. He actually became a teammate of mine of 99.

But in Kansas City, back, you know, Ocho, guys were what they call quick jam or freeze technique. Yeah. So they'd be up there. They'd be up there, let a press position. And then all of a sudden, you see him open up like, he for the back. Come right back to you. Man, I remember Dale caught a man.

I didn't see Dale. I had to see Dale one time, man, when he was with the Ravens. And Dale jumped jammed me, man, one time. It was a blocking play and caught me in my neck and I couldn't even move. I couldn't even move on. I was stuck in one spot. And he opened up like the snap was coming. I'm thinking, oh, it's a run play.

He's good. He fin the bailout. Man, that ball snap, man. He was in my chest so goddamn fast. Because I was relaxed because I knew it was a run play. Never again. Oh, yeah. Never again.

Oh, he was nice. Guys don't, don't quick jam or freeze technique nearly as much as they used to back in the day. I don't even think the coroner is even allow them to play that technique so they're not out of position. Because, you know, if you miss, you're your ass out. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Because all he'll do is he'll throw that head up. On Dak, I think it was the second to the last touchdown, maybe the last touchdown.

Back had hit a turkey leg in a Salvation. Army Captain. Army thing, right, right. When they scored a touchdown, Dak went got the plastic bag, had the turkey leg in there, took a bite of it. Yeah. Now, he's going to get fined extensively.

That's fine. I like to sell it. I like to sell it. I love it. So what did you think of Dak's celebration? And what was your favorite celebration? You know what? The Salvation Army with the turkey leg in there was perfect.

Obviously, with the day being Thanksgiving. The NFL office, this is what the fans want. This is what the fans want to see. I don't think you should find for stuff like this, but he's probably going to get a significant fine. But it's okay. Remember they say, Ocho, they don't want you to use problems. Yep, yep, yep, no props on the field.

I wonder who started that. But needless to say, that was a great celebration. I enjoyed it. And it goes with the theme of the day. It goes to the theme of the day. And the NFL should realize to this point, you have to be a little bit more lenient, allowing the players to have a little fun

because this is great engagement and fun and entertainment for the fans. is the entertainment business and stuff like that is exactly what the fans pay those high priced tickets for you remember joe horn brought that cell phone Joe horn Joe horn started y'all with that foolishness oh yeah oh yeah dude actually had to flip up under the goal for the touchdown that was that was classic yeah i think that was uh paul tagley boo was in when that actually happened yeah because i was i think i was still that i might have been the league so yeah uh Daniel just donated. Does Dach have to win a Super Bowl

to be considered a Hall of Fame quarterback? No, there have been quarterbacks that's, they're not many that's in the Hall of Fame. Warren didn't win a Hall of Fame. Warren didn't win a Super Bowl. He didn't win a Super Bowl. But for the most part, Dan Marino didn't win a Super Bowl.

But Danny is thought of as an elite quarterback. Danny is one of the 100 greatest players. he's on the 100th anniversary team. I think they picked seven quarterbacks. I think they picked seven. Because if I'm not mistaken, I know Montana, Manning, Brady, Elway, and Marino. I know it's five.

It might have been, no, Starback is one. So six. So I think they picked six or seven quarterbacks. All of them with the exception, I think Danny won at least one Super Bowl. Right. They picked seven. You picked ten quarterbacks.

They picked ten quarterbacks. What about Troy? Eggman got to be in there somewhere, huh? No, Eggman, he wasn't one of the hundred greatest. Okay. Otto Graham was one,

wasn't he? Otto Graham. Otto Graham. For the Cleveland Browns, yeah. But back then, they didn't have Super Bowl. They had championship.

Slinging Sammy Bob. Johnny, you. But Johnny won a Super Bowl, remember. He also, the biggest upset when the Jets upset the Colts.

but back then he also won the championship. So yeah, I don't, I don't think he has, I don't think he has to, but he's going to have to play. And a lot of these guys, if they didn't win the Super Bowl, and I think, I don't think, Warren Warren didn't win an MVP. But Daniel was an MVP in 1984, first guy to throw, he threw 48 touchdowns, which was unheard of in that day, threw for 5,000 yards, which would be the equivalent of maybe even 6,000 yards, considering the rules back then, how. you could attack the quarterback, how you could punish the receiver. Oh, he would, in today's game, he would throw probably for 6,000 yards. The Packers beat the Lions, 22, 29, 22. Joy and Love, 22 or 32, 268, three touchdown.

Christian Woods, Christian Woods. Christian Watson, five catches, 94 yards on a touchdown. The Packers had a first quarter defensive touchdown on a sack fumble caused by Rishon Gary on Jerry Gough, Jonathan Owens, who happens to be, Simone Biles' husband. Scoopin scored 27-yard. Gary picked up three sacks in the win. Jerry golf was 29 of 44, 3-332.

Two touchdowns, but he lost three fumbles. And remember, he got away with it. He had four turnovers last week. They had four turnovers. And they came back and win. You see, you got to be careful. You got to be careful because you step up in competition, you turn the ball over.

It's going to bite you in the butt. And it really bit them in the butt. And I thought it was a little bit early for Dan Campbell to go for it on fourth down, especially in your own area of the field. Because now you are, if they stop you, they didn't feel go range. They stop you in the field go range, Ocho. Yeah. And so, but what do you take away from what, what do you like about Jordan Love?

Because he made some throws today, Ocho. Yeah. He made some throws today. I'm like, hold on. Did you see him? I saw him last year. And I'm not saying he's going to be Aaron Rogers, because I'm, I think Aaron Rogers, you can make a case, Aaron Rogers,

one of the five greatest quarterbacks there. As far as arm talent, there aren't many. He, I mean, you're talking about he, Marino, Mahomes, as far as just arm talent, just throwing the football. He's there. But Jordan Love made some throws last year. I said, hold on. He reminds you a lot of a young Aaron Rogers,

the way he can drop down the arm angles in which he can release the ball. He made some throws today. I think the Matt LaFleur, I think Brian Gutikis, the general manager, And I think the CEO, Mark Murphy, they're like, okay, okay, okay, okay. I think, I think the fact of the matter is with them, which made letting Aaron Rogers go and understanding what they had waiting in the helm to take over this organization in Jordan Love.

Obviously, he can throw from multiple angles. He can throw every throw from either hash. He's one of those quarterbacks in NFL where the ball can be on the left hash. He can throw a 20, 18-yard comeback all the way to the opposite side of the field. That's the type of arm strength and arm talent that he does have. And obviously it showed today with some of the things that he was able to do. Christian Watson, the receivers have been really up and down, up and down for the Packers, you know, throughout the season.

But when they get it together, when they continue to match, especially with, especially in the offseason, they get together. And they come back next year. They have a nice squad. They have a nice squad offensively. They're young, the Ocho, the receivers. You got it like, they're young. You look at Christian Watson, Romeo Dobbs and he.

Romeo Dobbs. Man, man, the real deal. They all are real deal. I just, I would like a little. bit more out of the running game. So it doesn't put the onus of everything having to be done at the quarterback position and having to put the game in his hands. A little bit

more efficient, a little bit more efficiency in the run game. I think they're going to be fine. Obviously, on the on the flip side of things, this is a game where the damn lions couldn't overcome the turn over. No! You can't turn three times. One time, yes. One time,

you know you can overcome. But three and you lose all three of them, that's not going to work. That's not going be that you can't play winning football like that. And the bigger problem is that they got points off your turnovers because they got a scoop and score. Their offense wasn't on the field. At least you can say, well, our defense came on the field and we could have stopped them and we got to return it right back over.

But no, they got seven points out of your possession. And you can't, it's hard enough. It's hard enough for a team to win games when your offense isn't scoring. But when your offense turns the ball over and you let the opposing team defense score on those possessions, it becomes even more difficult. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal, but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque.

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Just take it. Oh, what are y'all doing? Microphones? Are you making a rap album? Oh, I would. Come on. Could you believe? I would buy it.

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I got five on it. Hey, what they win? Each winner wins $1,000. Ooh, y'all for the winner, $1,000. Hey, when y'all want your money, man. send me something. Hey, well, y'all went to see your boy 500. You know what I'm saying?

I don't even need, I just need $20. Throw something on the flow for me, baby. I'm going to pick it up now. Uh, our first winner at Canobi Centari. At Canobi. K-N-O-B-I-C-E-C-E-N-T-A-U-R at Canobie-S-T-R. Uh, our next one is, who, B-O-N-N-N-N-A.

A-H underscore what? Triple A from Ghana. Triple A. From Ghana. Oh, but he from Ghana? Yeah. Somebody way from Ghana. Ghana.

Yeah. Hey. Our other one is, My Hero Anthony Zero. Anthony Al-a- how you said that? Al-A-Cro? Al-A-A-Cron. Anthony Alachron.

My hero, Anthony, Anthony, Anthony, A-Zero. Anthony, A-Cro. You are a winner. Patricia Cadillic, C-A-T-T-L-I-D-G-E, Catilich, Patrice C-R-L-R-L-D-E, and at Tamrick B, Tamrick, Brazil. You are our five winners. We also have an honorable mention. His name is Hambino Godbody. Hambino. Hambino at Hambino 7 And this is what he sent, Ocho

He says, I don't have five He says, I'll lie before you, I'll lie to you. I just subscribe on all 18 of my email accounts. Serious? Yeah. So he gets something, we got something Hambino coming your way also.

So Canobie Centari You from Ghana. Bohana underscore AAA from Ghana. You, my hero, Anthony Double Zero, Anthony Elicron, Patrice Cattleidge and Tamrick, Brazil. You

are five winners. Hambino Godbody. You are an honorable mention winner. Congratulations to all of you that won. Man, you all got it. Listen, everybody that won. Everybody that won. All I need. I ain't going to, I'm going to see him.

I'm going to text you my cash app. Just send me $5. Throw someone to flow for me. I'm going to pick it up. That's all I need. That's all. Congratulations to y'all. Man, I love you. The holidays are coming up. I think all five will you owe me something. And y'all know what they say. Money out of sight, call to fight. Pay up. Pay up. Pay up. I need it. I need it. Ocho saying he won five, I want ten. So that's a, so you got nine to five coming. Everybody got nine and five. We good with that? I ain't, I ain't, I ain't asked for much.

I ain't, yeah. I ain't ask for much. Because I know if I get five from each one of you, man, that's $25. You know what I could do. $25 in today, today's economy, I can make that stress about two weeks. Well, see, here's the thing, Ocho, you're getting five, that's 25, but I'm getting 10, that fit and all, fitter all that good 50. I do so with 50.

I can flip that. What you're going to do? I flip that. What are you going to do with it? What are you going to do with it? We turn that 50 into what, 100? Man, I come back. Hey, I'll come back with Atolley,

I'll come back with O'Honda. A Honda Civic. Well, yeah, about 96. Because you know what 96 Honda Civic last year about 30 years. 88. The doors in the hood might not be matching, but it'll be all right.

It'll get to a point in a point B. You got to get some gold BBSs on that thing. Some gold BBSs. Have it lowered. Yeah, lower that thing, man. Put the little exhausts on there. Congratulations. God.

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We're giving away $20,000, man. baby Pluto just donated this for Ocho what you want to ask Ocho what you want to ask Ocho what's up baby Pluto Hold on he just he just donated $100 for Ocho

he donated 100 man I pray man that's what I'm talking about boy you are real one boy I appreciate that homie I salute you I salute you man you know you know I can do that $100 I'm behind on child support that's going that's going to that's going to my back pay

I appreciate that, boy. Man, look, I got a daughter. I got a daughter in med school, man. I got a daughter in bed school. You know what I could do. Hey, boy, I salute you, boy. Brother Pluto. Boy, you don't make me start.

Oh, baby Pluto, boy, don't make me start crying here in front of company, man. Well, hey, I need Mama Jupiter to send me something. Baby Pluto just said, oh, show, a hundred dollar. Mama Jupiter. Send your boy and stuff. Break me off. But I appreciate that. Boy, you're a real one, boy.

Shit, shoot me, shoot me a two. tweet shoot me a den, but I'm for the fall of you, but I ain't never had nobody to give me a hundred dollars, especially right now. Times is rough, right? Oh, Joe, I don't know if you saw this. You're a real one. In the HBO sport interview, the air Tuesday, the Erse was asked if the arrest of 2014 driving under the influence of prescription jugs and some subsequent guilty plea, which

resulted in a six-game suspension from the NFL were a low point to which he responded, no, not really, because the arrest was wrong. Erse went on to accuse the Indianapolis suburban police of Carlin, and, and police department of profiling him. I'm prejudiced against because I'm a rich white billionaire. If I was just an average guy down the block, they would not be pulling me over. They would not be pulling me in. Of course not. Ursula said he had recently had hip surgery at the time, which made it difficult to walk and required him to take prescribed medication. Why the hell are you driving in? He also said he played guilty to the misdemeanor because he just wanted to get it over with.

Orsie asked if he knew how this statement would sound to the public, which he replied, I don't care what it sounds like. It's the truth. You know, Andrea, talking about Andrea Mitchell, I could give a damn what people think or how anything sounds or how it sounds like. The truth is the truth, and I know the truth. Then he went on the tweet at first take to first take all night if you don't give a damn.

And so I'm asking, if you didn't care, why you tweet, first take. So here's some of the facts of his arrest. He was pulled over at 1140 p.m. by a police officer who observed a vehicle traveling 10 miles an hour and a 35 miles an hour zone. The choir frequently made stops. It would come to a complete stop on an open road, no stop sign, no traffic light. He was found to having the multiple prescription drugs in his car, Xanax, Darbyset, Valium, Ambien, Atavane. according to the relest, according to the arrest. He also had 29,000 and a Toyota Hollander.

He was driving most of the cash found in the briefcase, laundry bag, which contained prescription drugs. Hold on, I'm not done. Let me take it. So a little fact. He also was one time he had 400 tablets of Auntie Cotton during one 24-day period. He had 120 prescriptions filled.

in a single year. In 1995, Indianapolis police found his name among records of a doctor suspected of running a pill mill. So let this see people at home. I just want you to hear what I'm saying. He once got 400 oxycontin pills in a 24-day span. And I think the pills were, what, 30 or 40 milligrams? They were 40 milligrams.

Oxycontin. I'm lost a little bit. You got, I'm lost a little bit. So you got to kiss me up. Okay. I'm not one that really takes pills or really gets stuff over the counter. So I need to have a better understanding on what oxycotton is and what it does and why he had so many.

It's very addictive. And it's a pain, it's a painkiller. It's highly in pain. I'm assuming this is from his hip surgery then. Okay. Here's the thing. he had the hip surgery in June of one year. Yes, sir.

He was pulled over in April of the following year. Ocho, see, I can speak to a little something about this here. Your boy had had both of his hips repaired. Okay, so you know about it. The one thing they told me, they said, they said, we would like for you to take seven to ten days before you drive. Yes, sir. Okay, my head hard.

I ain't listened. But here's the thing, Ocho. I had the first surgery, I had an allergic reaction. And they weren't certain that the allergic reaction didn't come from the pain medication that they gave me. So the next hip surgery, guess what, Ocho? They gave the medication. I didn't take any, they didn't give me any pain medication. They put me under.

When I wrote, I took no pain medication. So if you know you had hips, first of all, it's a whole, it's a whole thing about it. It's June. So it's almost a year. Ocho, my second one, I was walking unassisted in seven days. The first one took me 12 days.

So if you have hip surgery in June of one year, how the hell you still stumbling and falling and you're in pain the following you and 10 months later? Well, I think is it maybe because of his age? I'm not sure. Jim Ursay. Jim Ursay at the time of the surgery,

was 52. Yeah. Oh, oh, he, oh, he was young. Oh, he was young. Jim Rsey is 64 years old. Yes. 64, Ocho. He don't look it, but he's 64.

Right. I'm 55. The surgery, hold up. He had the surgery, so 2013, so he was 54. He was a year younger than what I am right now. I had my surgeries at 53 and 54. It's kind of crazy some of the statements you read about him not caring, obviously not caring and being that he's being profiled because he's a rich billionaire.

I mean, listen, there are a set of rules that we all have to live by. All those rules are the same for everybody in regards to who you are. Ocho. Do you know what would have happened if you or I try to get 400 oxycontin pills in 24 days? Do you know what would happen to you and I? if we got a hundred and twenty seven prescriptions fill. Right. In a year.

Do you know what's going to happen? And do you know what's going to happen to the doctor? He's going to lose his life. Can you tell me what would happen if you pay for him? I mean, he has a money to pay for him. Ain't no doctor going to write them. First of all,

that's over the top. Do you understand how many 120 years, that's 10 scripts a month. Okay. Right. You get 10 prescriptions per month. That's 120. Right.

Okay. Of oxycon. Of volume. of all, what was the drugs he had? Put it up on my screen, Ash. Put the drugs that he got scripts for. I'm learning something new. Shit.

And he didn't. I know about it. All I know about is Talon all in Advil. Nah, no, no, no. He was taking stuff stronger than Tylenol of Advil. But the problem that I have is that he tried to say, well, I come from nothing. Bro, Bob Ursay was his dad. He owned the Indianapolis.

First of all, they were the Baltimore Coats. One, he went to SMU. SMU wasn't cheap. Then when he went to school, it's not cheap now. Cheap now. He got named general manager of the Baltimore, of the Baltimore coast one month after they left in the middle of the night. They left Baltimore.

They packed up and went to Indy. He got, he got named general manager. And for him to say, he pulled himself up by his bootstrapped. Bro, do you understand that you were wearing, Christian Lubiton bootstrap boots yeah do you understand see he's the type of guy that he's on third base but he didn't hit a triple right oh that's a good one that's a good analogy right

that that's a good that's a good analogy right there and I'm not saying and he talked about you know I just hate bro do you understand the perks that comes along with being wealthy white and a billionaire. Oh, Joe, we get some perks and we're wealthy and black, but we don't get those kind of perks. No, it's different. Listen, and obviously,

when you're rich in general, when you're rich in general, at some point when you get enough money, at times we lose a sense of reality. We lose a sense of reality, and we somewhat become or feel invincible to the fact that we get to abide by our own set of rules

and we are different than everybody else. And many times when we come or we have a running with the law, they will humble you and bring you back down the earth to help you realize that you were no different than anybody else regardless to income or regards to how many zeros you have in your bank account. Yeah. And most of the time, if after enough red flags and you still not listen, the man upstairs will humble you himself. Yeah.

Look, if he did just, oh, Cho, if he did just go ahead and take his punishment, said, look, I learned my lesson. I've been dealing with addiction. And addiction is, it's a disease. and it's something that I fight daily. I'm okay. I'm okay with that. But bro, you were not signaled out.

Here's some of the scripts. He had Loras, laurcette, Vicaprofen, Xanax, and Kalanippin. What? Yes.

Yes. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I don't know what that shit is. A lot of the people I don't understand what it is. You ain't just getting those, Ocho.

So is this is the help with the pain? The pain he's going through. He's been to rehab. He's trying to, make it seem like he was dealing with. And I'm not saying that it wasn't. Each person is different. But if you know you had hip surgery, why are you taking drugs and driving?

Ignorance of the law is not an excuse. You can't park in front of a fire hydrant and say, well, judge, I didn't see the fire hydrant. He's going to tell you ignorance of the law is not an excuse. You know you were told what when you take, I don't know anybody out there, you know, when they tell you about taking painkillers, what do they say? Do not drive or operate hair? machinery. That's on the bottom.

It makes you drowsy. Thank you. Make you drowsy? Thank you. Thank you. Yes. Okay. Yes.

Normally when you take painkillers, you sit your ass on the couch and you go lay down. Right. Who thought that, you know what? Man, I got, I mean, so much pain. Let me pop some of this.

Let me pop some of it's oxycon. Let me talk to him as Darverset. And I'm going to go for a drive. So let this sink in now. What your hip hurting got to do what you driving 10 miles an hour? and stopping on an open highway. And they came out, can you give me the report? What did the karma police,

karma police said? And normally you would have thought, would it be in Indianapolis and would it be in the police and then with him being Jim Ursay, most of the time, you let somebody go of that magnitude, especially a name like that.

That is a representation of not just the Colts, but Indianapolis. Yeah. Ocho. It must have been bad. He must have been like really messed up, like drowsy or, or something.

Well, he soon got a car, hopefully when you, we're going to show the video. Well, like when we, when people see this, see this,

we're going to see the video. That ain't no pain. Because like I said, I drove three days after my second surgery. But I, I wouldn't take it, but I didn't take any pain medication. That's crazy.

But I also understood that they had already told me that Mr. Sharp, you're not going to give you anything because I had a very bad, allergic reaction. I had to go to UCLA medical emergency for the first time. Right. Okay. Tim

Green, the now retired Carmel, Indiana police chief told USA Today Sports on Wednesday. Hello. Hold on. Okay. I would just hope that he would reevaluate what he said there because he knows that's not the case in this manner. Let's just say some of the comments

that he made without any type of evidence or proof. bro them people ain't pulling man come on bro with those kind of

prescripts in it because normally you got to have who for Ocho do you know how many 400 oxy cotton pills are if you got there you're going to jail

you're going to jail with 400 pills in 24 days for having for having pills that are just for pain that's pain medicine you ain't

no doctor writing you 400 of them. Do you know, see, you don't understand. But when you get off here, I want you to Google Oxycontin and see how addictive it is. The pill is the new thing now. That's what people got people walk around here like zombies. The pills is the new thing. People sell it, get prescriptions and they're selling them. All right. I'm lost a little bit. So they sell in the pill. So the people that are, that are person in the pills, they're in some sort of pain or they're just addicted to having it because it gives you a certain feeling. People will buy them. a pain or what are you going through.

Okay, let's just say, I get a prescription. I got a prescription feel for Oxycontin, Darviset, hydrocodone. Hey, man, man, I heard you got some pills. What you need, Ocho? Hey, let me get, what you got? I got some oxycontin. I got some hydrocodone.

I got Darvacet, got glomping. Got what you need, what you need. Okay, let me get that. I sell them to you. Now, you walk around. out here like a zombie because they're not for you. And you take them in abundance. People taking them, they're crushing them, they snort them,

they're doing all kinds of stuff. That's the thing. So here's the thing. So at what point is it going to become illegal then? It's not illegal. Pill meals are illegal. He was getting scripts. You can't get script.

You can't get 15. That's a pill mill. That's illegal. Normally doctors lose their jobs if they do that. They'll get this bar. They'll get this. Oh, so. So when you get them in bulk, it's illegal,

but as long as you get them and it's prescribed for you to actually take, then it's not illegal. Ocho. Based in small amounts. Ocho. A, cho. Do you understand how many 400 pills are? I don't think you grasp in the magnitude of 400 pills in 24 days.

I know you got to give it to me in a different terminology on something that I understand and know about. Okay. Okay. Okay. You know about Vicodinan. You saw players your teammates take Vicodinan a percocet. So imagine your teammate getting 400 Vicodin, which is oxycontin is probably.

two to three times stronger than those getting 400 those in 24 days. Okay. I think I got it. Yeah. Yeah. You saw you got teammates. You know your teammates took.

They took, they took those per cassette and those things of that nature. Because that's what they gave the football player. Okay. He had 424 days. Money talks. I mean, obviously people, people are that type of work. That's my point.

They live a different lifestyle and they have access. and resources to any and everything. Thank you. In bulk. But he was trying to say that being a wealthy white billionaire was some kind of drawback. Oh, he profile.

He clearly understands the privileges that comes with. It's just this. Profile of the wealthy. Right. Bro, I promise you, if I get on Wilshire Boulevard and they go get some calls

and the police come behind me, that's a busy intersection. I'm going 10 miles an hour and then all of a sudden, I just stop. And then I take off again. And I ain't at no traffic light. I'm not at a stop sign, the four-way intersection, a two-way intersection.

I'm just stopping in the middle of the middle of, for no reason, no joke. What you think they're going to do? Who you over? Okay. Every time. Okay. So I just wish you to just left well enough alone. Just own the mistake that you made.

You have some issues. You've been dealing with this for a long period of time. And I understand that addiction is real. I just had a conversation with Rick Flair who lost his son Reed. And you could see here the pain and the hurt of losing a child. And so I empathize for anybody that's going through. And please get the help that you need. But in this situation, I just wish Jim Ursay would have left this alone

because he's not going to get any sympathy because he's trying to like pretend like he had no, he did nothing. And they just profiled him and just pulled him over. Right. So, so, so is he in trouble now? No, no, no. No, no. He was suspended for six games.

Okay. So we already did his time. He already did his time. Okay, okay, okay. And so my thing was, I don't even know why he wanted to rehash that, don't you? You served your time? You served your penalty? Why go back down that avenue?

Okay. I saw, I saw the tweet. I saw the first take tweet. I didn't really understand where it was coming from. I didn't know. He tweeted some other stuff about his. his siblings died in the car crash and some of that's true some of that's not true um i think one of his siblings has special needs to end up dying in 1999 and it wasn't in a car crash so he misspoke

on a lot of stuff i'm not saying he's lying i'm just saying he mispoke the truth on some things um right but i don't understand why he would want to go down that path anyway um that's probably a very traumatic experience and try to redrudge that up to elicit sympathy. But he can just, he can just miss me on that one. I don't know him that well. I've met him on several occasions, but he gets no sympathy for me on this one. Greg Popovich tells the Spurs crowd to stop booing Kauai. Kauai was booed often doing Wednesday game, particularly when he's at the free throw,

lines. The booze were so loud and intense that Pop got on the microphone at the scores table and implored the crowd to stop booing. Excuse me for a second. Can we stop all the bulls? booing, let the guys play. Have a little class. It's not who we are. Knock up the booing. It didn't work. The booze

grew louder. They didn't listen to pop. Nope. See, man, listen. He opposed the player, Ocho. Yeah, but fans are fickle. He was a spur. Yeah. He was a spur. He gave his all in all.

Do you remember how he left? Do you remember how he left? See, see what happened when I don't pay attention to basketball? Was it something wrong with his knee, right? It was something wrong with me? Yes. Yes. I see, I remember. And he set out for a lot of games, right? He said he had he had a quad tendinosis.

Yeah, see. I remember that. So he was something that was going on in his quad and the Spurs doctor said it was okay. Kauai and his doctor says, no, it wasn't. And the banged up and see, this is what good coaches do. Coach could always iron fist, Timmy D. He could always iron fist Tony Parker.

Ammanu and he thought the same approach would work for Kauai. But if you look at Kauai's demeanor, Ocho, you can't do him like that. You can look at his demeanor. That ain't going to work with him. No. And he's not a confrontational guy. And I told him at the time, I remember when all this was going on, I said, Kauai, never played for them again.

Oh, y'all, they'll work it out. I said, no, he won't. How did you know they wouldn't play? Because the doctors, the doctor didn't side with him? Nope. Because something that Tony Parker said. When Tony Parker said my leg was, Tony Parker tore his quad the previous year and came back to play before Kauai.

And he said in front of the media that my injury was a thousand times worse than Kauai. Why would he do that? There it is. Why do you? Why would you even compare injuries two completely different body types and people heal completely different. And as your teammates, you don't want to throw your teammate under the bus like that. And I think they have a team meeting

or something and ask them, when are you going to play? They have a team meeting and they put him under the lights. And once that came out, Ocho, I've been, you know, I've been pretty good in locker rooms. I have a pretty good gauge of how to deal with people. Some people, you pat them on the back. Some people you kick him in the butt. Some people you'd be facetious with. I mean, I used to tell guys,

hell, my grandma could have caught that one, bro. How bad shot? You crazy. Yeah, you know who to play with like that, though. But you know, I'm getting my point across. I'm like, right. But some guys, you ride. Some guys you pat on the back. Some guys you're like, bro, damn, we all getting paid here.

Right, right, right, right. You can't talk to everybody the same. And the mark of the leader is to know who to talk to, how to talk to when to talk to them. Right. And so I just knew, I just knew that wasn't going to. It said it didn't work the booze grew louder. He said he didn't. He said he wasn't bothered by the booze.

And he said if I don't have that Spurge jersey on, they're probably going to boo me for the rest of my career. You're right. You're right. He probably don't. He probably don't care, though. Do you remember when LeBron went back to Cleveland? Do you remember when he went back to Cleveland from Miami?

Oh, yeah. Yeah. That first game, I remember that. Yes. I watched that. They didn't give it. They didn't give two, you know what. They didn't care.

They didn't have it. But they built for that, though. Sure. like LeBron, people like, like Kauai. I ain't, I ain't even heard Kauai talk yet. I heard him laugh before. I ain't even heard him talk yet. So I know he don't even care. Yeah, I know he don't care about none of that. It don't affect him anyway.

But if I'm an opposing player, I've been, I'm very fortunate. I left Denver and I went back. They cheered me. They didn't boo me. Even when I caught a pass, I don't remember them booed me when I called a pass. I left, left Baltimore, go back to Denver. They cheered me. I don't remember them booed me, even when I called a pass. but that's different.

I mean, you know, the thing was is that I didn't want to leave either place, but circumstances is beyond my control and the fans took that in consideration. Hey, and. Yeah, that's business. It is. Tiana Taylor filed for divorce from Imman Schumfer

alleged infidelity and mental abuse. According to legal documents filed in Georgia, Tiana felt pressure to intentionally dim her light for a husband to try to have a harmonious and peaceful marriage. She accuses him of being extremely emotional and mentally abusive towards her, exhibiting crude treatment and selfishness, crashing her Rose Royce, only to flee the scene, evading a second DUI. She also claims Imman was jealous whenever she'd get the spotlight, asking her not to work,

then griping that she wasn't earning enough money for their family. Damn. While she downplayed the talk of infidelity in her public comments earlier this fall, writing to be a thousand percent clear infidelity ain't one of the reasons for our departure TMZ reports cheating was very much a part of the divorce filing what's your take on that Ocho because you're kind of in a situation where you're your a real earns a nice living yeah and and and and go ahead I want to hear your time I'm a follow I'm going to go out for you I want to hear what you got to say I'm the first thing that the first thing I was getting ready to say is

the divorce rate. The divorce rate is super high. I'm not even to speak on Tiana Taylor and what Eamon went through. How do we fix the issue? How do we come down to the issue? Because the same things keep coming up over and over and over and over.

Infidelity is always a problem. Money has always been a problem. What else? Everybody has a different factor. So many people are divorced. And every time people divorce, there's always a different reason. And most of the time, the same common things always come up. So the thing I want to know in the chat in the chat that you got you guys, listen, I think

this is a great topic. And I'm glad we're touching on this. How do we fix the problem? How do we get to the root of the problem? What really is the problem in general is marriage, is the traditional marriage, what, something that we all can do? Or do you do the type of marriage that works for you? it's it's um it's it's it's really a loaded question when you think about it when you think about it

everybody portrays they're so happy when you look at pictures of imman and tiana everybody looks so happy when you look at other people that have been that divorce they look at pictures everybody's so happy but we never know what's going on behind closed doors how do we make marriage work that's what I want to know how do we how do we make it work forget the part of we're only we're seeing the finished product people ending people being over but what they show and what what they perceived to be is they always show that they're happy and things are going perfect. How do we fix the root of the fucking problem so it doesn't end

the goddamn divorce? That's what I want to know. Well, that's what you do on social media. Everybody wants to do stuff on social media. Post this, post that, or you did this, you do that for me. You know, the thing is, oh, your marriage, divorce used to be frowned upon. Man, it had to get really, really, really bad. Really, really, really bad.

for a man to leave the marriage or a woman to leave the marriage. It's too easy now. I mean, hey, you get mad, you come home. I don't like this. And boom, I'm gone. Right. My thing is that if what she's saying is true, and I don't know that to be true.

Yeah. I don't. I would be honored if my partner, my wife, my significant other, had income because you have to understand. At one point in time, I was the dominating figure in the relationship. And I know it's hard. I mean, you know, and I look at, I look at Tabitha.

Hey, Tabitha, Chance. I know you watch because Chance commented on my thing. I look at Chance and Tabitha. He's cool with being a stay-at-home dad. He runs everything from the background. He's cool with that. She loves that man immensely. There's nothing that man could ask Tab for that she wouldn't get or give him.

but he's okay with that. Amon, you got to realize Amon was an NBA player, first round draft pick of the Knicks, he won an NBA championship. He was at the height. Tiana had to take the, now, I think it was something about taking pictures. Now, you don't normally see that with a married couple. I couldn't imagine someone, LeBron and Savannah walking the red carpet. And it says, okay, Savannah, can you step to the side? We just want to take a picture of LeBron. Now, your girl, friend, that's one thing. But that's that man, that's his wife. Right. And I, you know what? That I get it. It's kind of like Stedman Oprah.

Stapin is fine in the background. In the background. Corey and Chris Jenner. Right. He's cool with the background. Right. I think it's harder for a man. If you've been at this level,

Ocho, you've been in the spotlight, you've been the center of attention. All of a sudden, they're like, hey, we want to take a picture of your wife and not you. We want to speak to your wife. I want to speak to your wife and not you. Right, right. I don't, I have a bit.

I'm cool. I'm cool. I mean, my thing is like, I think for me, like when I go into, if I go into a relationship, okay,

are you going to work? You want to work. You're working. Do you, I mean, okay, you're going to continue to work. Okay, cool.

This is what I do. Hey, save yours. I mean, every relationship, shop I've been been in. My girlfriend ain't enough pay for anything. Ain't, ain't helping no rent. I take over

her bills. You got a card note, I got that. You got an apartment. I got that. Come on that. The only thing you pay for, your cell phone bill, you pay that. That's all you got. Right. Okay. Hey, you know, my mom want to come, my family's coming. Okay, I got

I'll fly me in. I have a car service pick them up. Yeah. Well, you're the one, boy. Well, you that boy, huh? You hear me? I'm just old-fashioned. I do a lot.

I ain't opening no doors. So don't ask me, I ain't going to go around and open your door to get in the car or something like that. Over you on that door. But for most of the stuff, everything else, I'm going to take care of it. That's just the way I am.

I'm not saying if another guy doesn't do that, I'm not saying he's wrong. I know some guys like, hey, oh, shot, man. She got to pay for something. I'm good. I'm good. So that's just the way I handle it.

I've never been in a situation where I've dated someone. I guess that was the equivalent of as far as facial recognition, name recognition as I am. But let's just say for the sake of argument, I dated someone that was the equivalent of me and all of a sudden I wasn't doing what I was doing. Could I be okay with that? Yeah, hell yeah, I want to stay home.

Babe, you go and go on a red carpet by yourself. I'll be here waiting on. Right, right, right. Because I don't do stuff to try to get attention. I don't do it. I mean, I used to post my dogs all the time. I mean, I took a picture today, Jordan, took a picture of my dog today, and I looked at the comment, man, you got the dog at the table?

Yes. Because I promise you, everybody that I would want to come to my house, going to come to my house. You can't find five people that's ever been to my house and had a meal. that wasn't family Bucket Burns are probably the only two guys that's ever been to my house

while food has been prepared sit down and eat and if you're not I may explain to when I date when I say look the dogs they're going to get on the bed they're going to get on the couch

they're going to sleep in the bed the two little ones they're going to sleep in the bed I'm going to feed them table food if you've got a problem with the dogs let me know now we can't do it anything. I don't care how fine you are. I don't care how much money you make.

Dogs ain't going to where you, they live here. You visit it. And you probably won't come back. Damn, you like that? So them dogs come before any woman that tries any of your kingdom. Any. Any. Well, you tough, boy. I ain't tough. But I'm just saying that, that's, that's a good, that's a good rule. But again, when it, it's, this is great. This is a great conversation, especially for the people watching, and people that are couples, people that are already married that are wives, and people that are maybe even in relationships, I think it all come down to the one thing that a lot of us as men throughout,

throughout time that we've all struggled with and being able to keep a woman happy long term. You know, what does that entail? Is it possible to do? Many have failed. Many have tried and many have failed. As for me, I think about my relationship in general and some of the ones I've had in the past, and what I've done now, I've come to the point to where I take bits in how others operate in relationships and in marriages and some of the things they do. I'm damn near somewhat of a copycat if that makes sense.

People that are married, Ryan Clark, I copy some of the things that Ryan does. He probably don't even know I even watch him and watch how he moves. Watch how he conducts himself. Brother Shannon Crowder. A very, very good friend of mine, very good friend of mine who I try to steal as much as I can from and I absorb everything he does, the way he moves, the way he operates, the way he speaks, the way he conducts himself with his wife, with his woman. Duke, Duke, you know Duke, remember Duke, Duke played a league for a little bit. Duke, Ian, Inacho. Did I say that right? Yeah. Yeah, yeah,

that man, Duke, man, if there was, as a man, you're not supposed to want to be like anybody. but there was one person I wish I had that discipline earlier in life if I had his discipline in the way he moves and the way he operates when it comes to dealing with his woman

and not playing no games in any other area if it's not predicated to what he has going on and her boy listen but I trade anything in the world I trade anything in the world

to operate and move like that young fellow that man that's somebody I look up to and they inspire me as far as that I try to keep myself surrounded by people that are in in situations like myself. Mm-hmm.

You know, I don't, so temptation, it's crazy out here. So I think surrounding myself by people who are in the same situation as me that, that want to move and that are going in the right direction as me, as far as being in a relationship, trying to build and all the other good stuff, you know, hanging out with single people. You know what you end up doing? You end up doing single people things. Yes. I think the thing is marriage is so individual. You have to do what works for you, Ocho. maybe it's going on vacation.

Maybe it's doing, you know, hey, y'all work out together, y'all go to church together. Because it's kind of like parenting because each child is different. Each relationship is different. So what works for you in rail might not work for me and my partner or it might not work for someone else than their partner. So to try to say, okay, I'm going to do this, this and this because the old adage is, okay, the girl like, well, I won't such as such, you know, he takes his kids to school.

okay. Maybe he's in a position where he can go to go. But let me ask you a question. And the process of taking him kids to school, if he taking you on vacation, is he paying for everything? So you have to factor things like that in, Ocho.

So because you can't get everything. There is no perfect husband. There is no perfect wife. There is no perfect girlfriend or significant other. There is no such thing. We can strive to get it. But by the way, I'm asking, what is perfection? Yeah, it ain't no such thing.

So we're striving for something that no one is ever because, oh, 300. Who said 300 had to be the perfect score in bowling? Who had to say 27 strikeouts had to be? So why couldn't it be 40? Right. So, but for me, I look at a situation, Ocho, I was like, look, this worked for me if it doesn't. I'm going up front. This is what has to happen.

The dogs are not leaving. The dogs are not going anywhere. And that's Ocho. I don't get upset if a, female civil, Shannon, these are my non-negotiables. I got no problem with that. I have to seriously ask myself, okay, Shannon, you're saying you can do it. I know you can do it for a week, but can you do it for a month?

Can you do it for six months? Can you do it for a year? Can you do it forever? Those are questions that you have to ask yourself. And I know in the beginning, a lot of times, like I said, when females would tell me when I was dating, I said, look, football is the most important thing. or I can be number two until they found out

man this mother he too serious man he all he want to eat is chicken breast and brown rice we don't go out to eat no time we don't do anything because all he does Shannon you just left work

you just watch film you tell me you watch film for two hour and a half hours why you got to watch film another two hours when you get home because that's how you become great this is how you make sure Mary Porter never has to eat what she ate.

The house doesn't leak anymore. That my family never have to go back to that. This is how. And so that's how I am. And so I just tell them up front, hey, the dog, these are, this is some of the things I have. I'll do whatever I can for you. As far as monetary, I can only love you.

And that's the thing. That's the hardest thing, Ocho, is trying to communicate in someone's love language. Because as my therapist told me, she said, Shannon, she's speaking Spanish and you're loving her in Mandarin Chinese. She doesn't know what you're doing and she doesn't know what she's doing. So unless you learn her language or she learns your language, there is no communication and it's never going to work.

Do you think, do you think at times we as men can get lost? We can lose a sense of ourselves trying to please a woman too much. Yeah. Because everything is predicated towards making her happy. Yeah. most of the time it's never really ever, ever about us. Because if you ask her what makes her happy and you just say, you just say you ask her to name five things that make her happy.

And those five things she names will always be predicated to her and have nothing to do with you. Yes. She won't the bag. I want a man to take me here and I want him to do that. I want him. Yeah. Yeah.

You got to be the provider. So the old in question still remains unanswered. until today. Is it possible? Is it possible to keep a woman happy long term? Whether it's a relationship, whether it's even a friendship, whether it's marriage, is it possible, especially in today's climate and era that we're in where women like, wait, you know what? He got one time to mess with me. Happiness doesn't come from any external thing, though, Joe. Happiness comes from self. Happenness is not something you find is something you create. You, you know, as I said, happiness is something you create. It's not something you find. Self is not something that you found.

when people say, I found myself. No, you created self. So me give you, I can give you whatever, but at the end of the day, you've got to be happy with you. You have to be happy with the person that you are. And I can, I can be an accessory to your happiness. Right. But I can never make you totally happy if you're unhappy with yourself. And that's what I've had to learn. Because I was looking for people to make me happy, but I wasn't happy with my happiness. There were some things that I needed to figure out. And then once I figured out that, I said, okay. And I know, and I, look, I'll be the first admit.

I'm not an easy person to get along with because, no, because the thing is I had one of my exes told because all her friends like, he must be so great to hang around. He's so funny. He's, she said the person that you say on television, He's nothing like that at home. That of him, yeah. And I'm not. I'm very, very quiet at home.

I don't watch a whole lot of TV. Most of the things that I watch is on mute. And if it's not making me money, I don't really watch it anymore. I mean, I'll go home. I'll, Ocho, I'll go home. And when I'm home and I wouldn't do anything, when I was going vacation, I was not a muted, I wouldn't even cut the TV on. Really?

Wouldn't even cut the TV on. I go get a massage, come home, stay in my room. I go get my nails done. Come home, stay in my room. I go get my hair cut, go home, stay in my room. My homeboy was telling you, Bucket, he's like, when I was playing Ocho, my homeboy would come up. He would say, hey, man, I'm going to come on up

because I know you about to get training. When I got into that mode, nobody came up. Nobody came to visit. That's how I am. And so I'm not easy, person to get along with. And I think the thing is that's probably the most reason. And people say, I got I don't, I don't ask a whole lot. I mean, I think people like, well, Shannon, you got too many rules. Well, if I'm, I was going to say, I was going to say that too. If all I ask is that you not

pass gas in front of me or burp in front of me, if that's too much. Okay, babe, I'm not for you. Or use a bathroom with a dough. No, that that's not. Okay. If that's a, is that a non-negotiable for you? Maybe we're not for each other. That's okay. Right. Maybe I have some, maybe I have some quirks. You know,

I had to, you know, get out of the habit of, you know, mama want to do a little something in the morning. I had to get them brush my teeth.

Right. I can't be doing it. I can't be kissing you my mouth smelling like get back. Oh no. Whoa, whoa, wait a minute. Wait a minute.

Wait a minute. Like when it's time to get to the nitty gritty or in the morning, you ain't got time. You don't have, you don't have to be brushing your teeth. By that time,

the mood is already gone. Oh, man. I can't be in that kissing nobody breast metal like get back. Hey man, in the morning, ain't nothing about, ain't about, ain't about no kissing. No, you, man, we're going,

we're going to work with you. We don't, we don't get to, oh, cho. You know, a lot of times, I just, you know, I had to get out of that habit of thinking, I'm like, everything had to be perfect. Yeah. And I think everybody's striving for that though, But I just like, okay, this.

I mean, Ocho, you come, I mean, you look at, you go to my refrigerator, all the labels are facing forward. You go in my cupboards, everything is facing a certain way. You go, everything is color coordinated hung up in my closet. Everything is, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Everything is like, like Gallagher. Everything is so boom, boom, boom. And then when it gets out of that, okay, what's the problem? Why is it like this?

And so that was the hardest thing. But to get back on Tiana Taylor Ocho, I hope, I mean, I don't know I, I don't even, I like, damn, you don't know Tiana. I mean, I know who she is. I know who he is. I just, I just, I just hope that wasn't the case that, because I ain't trying to dim nobody. Like, I want you to be your best. I want you to be you. And if I can accentuate that.

Right. I got, I'll help. What, what you need. Yeah. What you need. Hey, chick saying, hey, Shan, I want to go to. I want to go to. you know what, I want to go with real estate school.

You know what I did, don't you? I said, here, tell your mama to go too. Here's enough for both of y'all. That's how I am. That's I am. I don't expect nothing back. I don't do anything and expect it back. I've given my home boys money.

Hey, bro, when I get you money? Man, shot, come on, man. I don't want you. Bro, you good. You good. That's just, that's how I am, especially with, I've broken up I've broken up with females Ocho and it's like I see him like I say why you know blah blah blah blah I've been very fortunate Ocho to not after breaking up with somebody not seeing them out with someone else because we live totally different lives I'm on one side of town they're on other side of town I live in one state they live in another state so I don't really right but if they ever need me I had this one one one no one chick she called me we would cool. Right. She's like Shannon and I really need. That's what you need. Down payment on the house.

Okay, you're good. Whoa, whoa, whoa, wow. Down payment? How much is that down payment? What? 25. $2,500? Ocho, let me tell you what I do. Because I like to, I like that if you, Ocho, if you cool with me, you ain't got nothing to worry about. Let me tell you what I did. When I was young, I'm glad we're friends then. Ocho, when we were young, when I was young, I would test women. Because I wanted to see if you really like me and what you. So I went to see this later. I ain't going to tell you I went to see that, but I stayed in the hotel.

And the last day, he was coming back before I was getting ready to leave. So I gave a $5,040. And I know people at home and say, why do you give a $5,040? I was valet with $27. And I wanted to see if she was going to take the $40, give the valet,

and let them keep the change. What you think she did? I know she ain't hit you and asked you an ad for the money for valet. Don't do that. She charged it to the room. So I'm out. But you lying.

I'm out. I'm done. Take it. You purposely gave her $40 that would have took care of valet. She got a pocketed a little five and she kept that little $40. Yep.

That's a good test on. That's a good one right there, Brian. Let me tell you. Let me tell you what I did. I did what I did one time. Once I told a check, I said, I'm going to give you X amount of dollars.

Mm-hmm. I gave her, I gave a less than that. Now, I'll tell you what I told I would give. I said, I'm going to give you 10 bands. Mm-hmm. For a birthday. I gave a 10 bands for a birthday. I said, I'm going to give you 10 bands for your birthday.

Yes, huh. I gave her eight. Okay. She didn't want it because I promised her 10. Wait, well, she turned down 8,000 because you, you didn't give a 10 just because you said. She said, I lied to her. You know, women, women, Women big on principle now.

You know how it is. Women big on that. Listen, if you say you're going to do something, they big on that. I didn't see women, women say, listen, if you say you're going to do something,

do it. If you ain't going to stand on what you said, you're going to do, why you know a lot of time. But I like, see, here's the thing. And this is how I am,

Ocho. The way my grandmother raised me is that be appreciative. Even if you don't get what you thought. And that's what you know, look, and I think that that came from growing up how I grew up,

I know I wasn't going to ever get what I really asked for because we couldn't get it. My mama got what she could. I mean, I was the first, one of the first in Glenville to have Air Jordans. I was the first to have a Walkman. I mean, we had a lot of stuff, whatever my mama could get, we got it. Yeah.

And so, get it all of them. Right. And my grandmother, whatever she could get, we got it. And so it taught me to be appreciative of whatever she gave me. and it rubs me the one thing I hate it. Any woman that's ever dealt with me, if you ask them, hopefully don't tell you, but I hate ungratefulness.

I hate ungratefulness. Yeah. Appreciate what I give you and I give you more. And most of the time you don't have to ask me, Ocho, I just give it to you. I just go give it to you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

That's how I am. You know, that's very hard in today, in today's era, in today's climate, because you got, you got fellas now, that obviously that lead with money and do so much right off the bat to when you when you read somebody like you someone like you who is a little bit more conscious of the way they give then it's a little different because they expect it to be a certain way based on the individuals they dealt with before you came along it's a little different yeah you got you got fellas

that's throwing that money because they got that fast money coming in and they move in different so they can spend like that so those that have to work hard for their money they don't really appreciate you like that now. Yeah. So it's different types. It's different types. But I just, hopefully, you know, I got daughters that are, that are grown and of dating age. And I just like, look. And I just try to, I just try to explain to them, look, they've been around me their whole life. And they've grown accustomed to a certain thing, a certain type of a lifestyle. I say, babe, but what happens if you don't meet somebody

the equivalent of your dad? You got to be okay with that. You got to meet somebody that. You got to be somebody that's going to love you, even if they can't provide what I, what I provided you growing up. And you got to be okay with that. Right. You got to be okay with that. But yeah. And you got to be supportive of your husband and hopefully he's supportive of you. You, yeah. That's that that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's the thing. Like I said, Ocho, for the most part, I, like I said, I haven't met anybody equivalent to me or you work. Look, if I'm in a relationship, Ocho, if you, if you're working, you want to continue to work work. Maybe. Right. But you don't

put anything towards the house. Save your money. Save yours. The only thing you got to pay, the only thing you'll ever have to pay for is your own phone bill. Your phone bill. That's it. I got the car. I got the insurance. I got everything. Well, that's why. I see why you're so picky now because whoever you picked, ladies, I know you're listening now. Doctor, Doctor.

Oh, Alex Trinidad. Alex Trinidad donated $100 for your boys. Say this for you. Alex. AT, I appreciate that. I appreciate that good looking out. Real friends, the doctor, just donated another $500.

Happy Thanksgiving. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on, oh, Cho. Yeah. He said, happy Thanksgiving. I like to extend a self-care gift card to you for a facial and skin treatment at an L.A. based skin care expert,

Tracy Hudson. She's expecting to hear from you. Enjoy. Oh, boy. Hey. I'm about to get these two couples under you. Oh, my eye. Hey, listen.

Now, that's the third time now. Now, that's $1,500 now. That's $1,500 now. That's $1,500 now. I ain't going to strike out. I ain't played baseball. I ain't played baseball, but I used to be good a softball player. Listen.

I ain't struck out. I ain't never struck out, Ocho. My grandma said three times is a charm. Now you keep on playing around. You're going to end up on a farm. Ocho. Don't play, don't play no games now. I'll miss your blessing.

You know what opportunity knocks or grumbler complains about the noise. You know, I ain't one to complain, Ocho. All right, now. Okay. Let me ask you, let me ask you a question. Stay with me now. Stay with me. Knock, knock.

Yeah. Who there? Knock, knock. Who there, Ocho? The doctor. She there? She got that bad. She got a thethoscope because, you know.

I ain't been breathing good lately. You might need, you might need to. You might need to open up my airway dock. Man, stop playing. Hey, listen, now listen, the man upstairs ain't going to give you too many more signs, man. He ain't going to give you too many more. Hey, but back on that top of man with Tiana and Tiana and Imam, man, it's unfortunate. I mean, many of our what I consider, and I call celebs, you know, I know both of them.

It's very unfortunate. And so many of them continue to break up. So many of them. It's easy, old. People don't want to fight no more. Ocho, you know how it is. I mean, back in the day, who like,

fight for something? Yeah, my, look, it's not like my grandmother and grandfather didn't argue a lot in front of us, but they would work it out.

People don't want to work it out now. The easy thing is to just believe. You got too many options. Social media has made us think there are so many options. Oh, no, it ain't anything out there.

That's what happened. Let me bring that, let me bring that back to you real quick. Uh-huh. Ain't nothing out there? Ain't nothing out there? Not there. Nah, not like that.

Not like that. Because if it was that good, it'd be taken on. If it's, if it's, if it's, if it's, if it's, if it's what, if you thought it was, if you, what you'd be, it'd be taken. And it'd be taken. And it'd be taken. With all, with, with all due respect to what's out there, you know, some people are still looking for their person and whatever that person may be. Whatever you envision your happiness to be, it's out there and you're going to continue looking for it because you're looking for perfection. You're looking for perfection.

and you're looking for, you know, you want the best of the best, and that's just not the way it works, because that might not be in your cards. I'm not sure what deck you plan with or you might want to shuffle, but it ain't. Well, you know, Ocho, man, you know, you say sometimes you got to deal the card, you know, you got to play the hand that you dealt,

but I ain't got no space. I ain't got a number of face cards. I'm going to throw my hand in. You might as well throw it in, but the way she blessing is, uh, his page. You might well throw it in. Yeah, that's, you know what, Ocho. You got to know in the fold them.

That social media has been a blessing and a curse because this allowed us to have our own platform like a nightcap, like a club Shay Shay, and it's allowed me opportunity to become more recognizable. Whatever you want to envision yourself as being, you can portray it on now until somebody see you in person. Yeah, yeah. Until somebody see you in person. But I think the thing is that when I was playing, when I first got into the league to meet

somebody from Miami, you damn, they had to, you had to be in. Miami. Yeah. If I wanted to meet somebody from Cali or Dallas or Houston or wherever, New York, I had to be in those places. Now I just open up and I could just like, damn. Ooh. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah, social media has made the world very, very, very small. It has made everybody accessible. It has. And the thing is like, look, everybody has somebody. my grandma just always say boy everybody got somebody it's just to what extent married fiancee significant other boyfriend girlfriend ain't nobody just like I ain't got nobody

no no so it's always something there's always some type of title there's always some type of something and one of the one of the scariest things with that you can deal with what is when you find somebody new and you're having to compete against their past because I remember my grandma always told me, where you're going to meet women and women going to come into your life and they're always have somebody from their past

that will always have access to them. One person. Just one. You're right. Not a whole bunch of dudes, not a whole bunch. No, I'm talking about. There's that one special person.

I don't care. I don't care what you. I don't care what she tell you. There will always be one person that will always have access to her no matter what she says to you. Damn. And another thing she said was every time you date somebody,

you always have to remember you are really not the one she want to be with the one she really want probably just wouldn't get his act together damn and them they ate them two things it stuck with me forever and ever and ever now it's just always been in the back of my mind matter of fact rare i know you're watching real i better be the one you wanted too because i know you can see this but yeah man it's just just just small things like that man if i don't let it bother me it doesn't deter anything i have going on right now but again Keeping a woman happy. I'm God damn Tiana.

I wish them both the best luck. But for me, like I told you, Unk, and those that are watching, I kind of hang around people that are in the same situation as I am to make sure I stay on point.

And again, if y'all don't know Duke, you can follow Duke on Instagram. That's somebody I look up to and want to be like. And Unk, I'm waiting on you. That's why I'm trying to get you a plus one

because we are together so much. I need you. in that same lane I'm in so I can steal from you and move accordingly the way you do but I don't hang around nobody I don't hang around nobody.

You got to start hanging around me because I'm walking down the right path and I need you to walk with I need a bad influence. No ain't unless you talk about eating that's about it. Loran Lewis donated $10 and said at this point give me your

instill love your answer our message real friend. Nah. Hell now. James Coleman donated $5.00. Hey guys, what's your top 380s action movies? Top three 80s.

80s action movies. Oh, that's a good one. Wait, let me think. Mad Max. What you know about Mad Max? He was Bill Gibson. Hey, what about Golden Child? Golden Child ain't the 80s, huh?

There's a golden child. That ain't no action movie. Man, Golden Child was. action. What did you talk about, man? Yes, with a little boy. It was action. Oh, Lord of that mercy. No, I was, I mean, action, you think about what you want me to say, Rambo? Yeah, Ramby. I like, yeah. Predator. Predator ain't the 80s though. Yeah, predator. Predator. The predator. The first is, okay, okay. Yeah. I think it's 88. Okay. Okay. That's a good one. That's a good one. That's a good one. Rambo. What about, oh, I got one for you. What about Daug. I'm going to take you back.

It's that hard an action movie or either the Christmas movie. That's a good. Damn, that's a good question. It's an action movie. Yeah. It just happened to be filmed around Christmas time. It was the setting was it during Christmas time. What about, um, why is it slip in my mind?

The movie with Arnold Schwarzenegger. Which one? Oh, Terminator. No, it's not even, not even Terminator. He was, um. Conan? God, Conan the Barbarian. God, you took it right.

You took it right out. my goddamn mouth. Conan a barbarian. You remember that? Yes, I do. Yes. That was classic.

That was a little good, good little action movie. Turnup King 31 donated $20. Uncle Nocho, what would you, y'all prefer a Dodge Challenger? I mean, a Dodge Challenger Hellcat

or a Trackhawk and why? I'm partial because when they reintroduced the Hellcat in 2008, I got it. They were numbered then. They only came out with 6,400. I had number 40.

And when they came out with the Hellcat, I think it was 2014. I got that one. And so the last edition of the model they came out with, they came out with a model called the Black Ghost. They came out with a demon also. And so I got that one. So for me, I'm kind of biased towards the Challenger Hellcat because I think of all the remakes,

it looks the most like the original Challenger. Right. All right. For me, if you know me, you know, I drive. a smart car. I'm really not into speed. I'm not going fast. Um, if I had to take a choice. Um, good friend of mine, Chief Keeve has a track hawk. So I'd probably go with the track hawk because it looks cool. Um, I don't, I don't really drive fast. I'm not into hell cats and, and dog cats and, what was, what's the other one call? A demon, demon, demon, demon, demon time. Yeah, I'm going to get

old school. I'm going to get a old school. If you're going to get a Chevy, get a don't. No, I don't know, I'm thinking about, I'm thinking about like a 70th Chabelle. I'm gonna get a Chavelle. I like Chappelle. I like Cudas. Get you a don't, man. Come on. I like a,

the RAM air, a GTO. I'm gonna probably get something like that. Nah, you gotta get you gotta get you a dog. I don't know, don't know, don't get you a 73 man,

convertible, man, peanut butter guts, man. Now I don't like peanut butter guts. Come on. I like either. I'm gonna get it. You drop, drop the top back.

Get your convertible. Drop the tap back, man. 20, 26 inch all gold day and music blasts and think about you coming you drive you in LA ride down crinshaw man I used to have a convertible I mean in college my brother bought me a 300 ZX I had T-tops and then he gave me his uh T-Tot I remember yeah he gave me um his SL he had an SL he gave me that convertible I had a Bentley convertible look out I don't I don't want to know convertible I don't want to be seen you had you you had a Bentley convertible

yeah bro you got money I don't have Bentley had Rose had now just give me a little BNW, my little range. I'm gonna keep it moving. Yeah, you good. Yeah. You good? And my black ghost that when I go home in Atlanta, I can drive that. I'm good.

Oh, you got all types. No, no, no. I had a 61 link and I don't have some. Well, you better than me. I've been driving my small cars in 2006. It got me a little suburban right now for the kids, you know, when we need to maneuver. Yeah. You know, and make moves.

But then that, that's it. As it, if I need something nice, you know, I got all my luxury stuff. You know, I got a rental car place down here, exotic motors, you know, all my luxury stuff. You go out there and you rent, you know, you come out. You come to a man, you'd be stunned and you think you're stunned, but you're really driving my shit. But anyway, that's it.

Make a little change. X Emerald donated $10 and asked, what was the best athlete, best athlete you guys went against? Greetings from Puerto Rico. Best athlete. Love the show on Canocho. Puerto Rico got some things over there too, don't it. Who got the best one?

Puerto Rico or Dominican. Best what? Food? Women? Oh, I don't know. I'm, I'm, I'm saying. I don't know, but. Okay, damn. Hey, y'all jump in the chat. Who, who the best? Puerto Rico or Dominican? It closed, though. Yeah, I don't know. I ain't ever been to Puerto Rico or Dominican.

But I heard I ain't never been either, Ocho. But everybody talking about, hey, hey, a, a sharp man. Hey, you need to get on, but I'm telling you, bro. Yeah, I ain't never been over there. They be feisty. All of them, both of them feisty. I mean, they be talking. Real?

Yeah, they're feisty. They might be a little bit too, too fister for me. I'm, you know, I'm a slow boogie. I'm slow motion over here. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know about that, boy. You're on your own there, but. I'm on what rail, what rail is?

I don't get here. Thank you. Don't play with me, Ocho. I'm too big of a cat to be playing with like a kid. You know that. I know, but I know, but that's one, that's one topic. I don't want no part of, okay, okay. I appreciate it.

I know she watching. Oh, I'm sorry. Really? Baby, you're watching? She, she's watching. Matter of fact, the funny thing about it is she downstairs, right? She downstairs? No, I'm not.

I kid you not. She downstairs. But I got the key. I got both sets of keys so she can't get up. So she's watching from the car. Yeah, so I ain't, I ain't in for the play because I got to deal. I got to deal with that when she's walking the door. I don't know.

I know. I appreciate that. No problem. But I tell you what. Hey, guys is watching. Dominican Puerto Rico. ever, I. Yeah, you

like, you have that. Emery wants to know who's the best athlete. I would probably say, obviously, time, but you know what?

Ocho, I was in the lead when Bo Jackson was in the league. Actually, he was on the Raiders when I was at the Broncos. And if you look at one of the plays,

one of his long runs were against the Broncos. And it might have been like a week or two weeks before he fractured his hip against the Bengals. Mm-hmm. So, man, man, bow a time.

It's got to be bow at a time. Yeah, for me, it would have to, you have to be maybe prime time or champ Bailey. What's about pure athlete? Yeah. Crime of champ Bailey. Yeah. Yeah, two, both of them play two, two position players. We haven't seen anything like that today.

See, for me, unless you play the. against time or you actually was on the sidelines when he played, you don't get an appreciation of it. You really don't. To see how he moved and how effortlessly he glided, it's kind of like I would want to talk about this earlier, but I played on Thanksgiving my rookie year. And guess who we played, the Lions?

Guess who the Lions had? Barry Sanders, yeah. So what do you think he did? Put on a show. when crazy when people say oh that was no no no no no they'll never ever be another barrier

you're never going to see a guy start with two feet and take off and do what it's unbelievable to see it in person I'm like it almost it almost defies it defies gravity it defies logic it defies

physics that his joints God only made one person that joints was like ball Barrens and that he could, the way he could bend and hug and maneuver. It's almost like you see cats, like when, when the animal turns and he turn it around like a cheetah and he's turning right there with him. That's how buried ankle bones and his knees and his hips. That's how they maneuvered. Like, man, if I stop like, hey, if I try to start with both feet, knee going there, Patela going over here, hips going to, hey, I'm going to shout of something like,

ice hitting the floor. It's really that simple, Ojo. That's a good one. That's a good one. Barry, he was special. Oh, man.

He was really bad. I'm fortunate, like I got an opportunity to play, you know, like the old guard, you know, Montana and Marino and Elway and Barry

and Emmett and Jerry. Some of the great defenders, DT, LT, Bruce Reggie, uh, time, you know, Ray,

in the modern year, Ray had and Erlacker. And then, you know, I played Manning and Brady. Like, whoa, I kind of got, kind of got, I kind of got it pretty good. Pretty good over here. My brother, you know, Chris. Very good.

Yeah. And then now you see these guys coming like, okay. But I think the era from when I played, you look at the quarterbacks. I mean, Montana was on the old, you know, Century team and Manning and Marino and Elway and Brady. So I got five with. team playing the era Reggie Bruce Ray

Jerry Rice I think Randy Moss was on that team I played against Tony a lot of the offensive lineman I like

I mean you look I think well you got Brady and Manning within that era you played against Ray yeah I'm trying to think Ed Reed I got it played

against Ed Molo. Who else? I'm talking about great. Rod Wilson. Rod Wilson. I played against him. He's a teammate about it. I put Rod at the tail in.

Who else? Shoot. Damn, T.O. Trying to think, who else? I'm talking about these are the elite of the elite. What you? So, Ocho, I forgot to ask you this.

I should have you this earlier. So what was, what did you have for Thanksgiving today? what the plate looked like. Well, you ain't see my Thanksgiving plate? Nah, what it looked like? Man, tell somebody, pull that up for you, man, real quick, man. What you had, or something? Not who?

Pull up, you pull up on your plate. Somebody sit at that plate, man, real quick, man. Look at that plate, man. Look, you see the devil eggs? Man. Dirty rice. The dirty rice, the hambs, the mac and cheese. Oh, Joe.

Dirty rice, the turkey. Dirty rice. Dirty rice Thanksgiving now? Yeah, man. Devil eggs? We y'all. Is that, is that? Is that a Puerto Rican?

Chahed chocolate cake? Is that a Puerto Rican thing? Devil eggs? Nah, I just like devil eggs. Devil eggs is a, is a, a delicacy. I know, but I'm saying, it goes in any setting. No, I'm thinking, like, traditional things given, like, turkey, dressing, yam, I just said that.

I don't like dressing. I got mashed potatoes on here. Yeah, tell him, look at that, look at that plate, man. fix your glasses so you can see good okay yeah you see it I made I made I made I made that I made the macaroni and the yams I see that that ham up there

I don't know I don't know yeah I made that who made the collard greens what you got the collard greens you got turkette ham hop back big tails little ham hop okay red red red red red red made the collard greens I did everything else you ain't do nothing you can cook I did it I did everything else

water. Now you know I could cook. Now, I went to La Cordon Blue. Right here and for a lot of there. Don't do that. I spent two years there before I flunked out. That means you can't cook. You know, you flunk out or something. That means you can do it. I flunked out. I left. When you flunk out, that don't mean you left.

All right. I didn't mean the word you used we used the word flunk. I felt like all that I can. I felt I felt I did all I can and took as much information as I could to motherfucker's survive and I left. So I didn't mean to say flunk. Okay. I just left. I just left. Oh, yeah.

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We hit that 350 tomorrow. I don't know. We're going to hit 350 tomorrow. That's asking an awful lot, Ocho. No, it ain't. I'm going to push. I'm going to go on Instagrams. I'm going to go on Instagrams and I'm going to tell everybody.

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and about a lot of other things. So thank you. Appreciate you joining us tonight. I'm your favorite sports uncle Shannon Sharp. He's your favorite number 85. that plate didn't look too spiffy. But lies. It's all good.

Lies. The beer. Huh? You know what? Next year, you know what? Next year, I might,

I might, nah, I can't cut it. You can't cook. We're going to have it prepared. We're going to have to have a world, somebody world renown to whip us up. Turkey,

dress, dressing, mac and cheese, sweet potatoes. Why would you? you have somebody world renowned when I can do all that myself. You're not world renown. I just showed an example of that.

I am. I mean, hey, I can pull my own teeth. Why would I need to go to dinner when I can pull my own teeth? Because that's what he went. That's what he went to school to do. No.

I mean, YouTube, you can do everything. You don't need to go to no goddamn Dennis. If you got, if you need a root canal, you can do it yourself right at home. You,

hey, you know, they say when you're in, in the law, they say if you could defend yourself in court, but they say, you know, the person that defends himself in court, he has a fool for a client. You pull your own teeth,

you give your own self a root canal. You got a fool for a patient. Listen, I've done it before, but all right. Yeah, I put my own T too, but I happen to be six. Nah, I wasn't six. I was 23. Yeah, okay. I was 23.

I was in training camp. D.T. I gave him. But anyway, I'm out, we'll see you guys tomorrow. Thank you for joining us for Nightcap. I'm Shannon Sharp, and he's Chad Ocho Siko Johnson. I love y'all. We're out.

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