The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Open Mike - Bengals' DC Lou Anarumo on upcoming clash vs Buffalo Bills, “Fumble in the Jungle” vs Ravens

Episode Date: January 21, 2023

Cincinnati Bengals’ defensive coordinator Lou Anarumo talks to Mike Silver about their AFC Wild Card victory against the Baltimore Ravens, and his upcoming AFC Divisional matchup against the Buffalo Bills. They also discuss the Bengals’ recent “surprise” success, Anarumo’s reputation as a master of halftime adjustments, and why he was staying in his childhood bedroom while he was coaching the New York Giants in 2018. #volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, my basketball and college football journey, or my career in sports media. Well, now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifers Show. This is a place for raw, unfills of conversations with athletes,

creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. So let's get to it. Listen to the Cliford show on the I-Hard Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast, And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas.

And I'm C.J. Toledano. It's our favorite time of the year on our podcast point game, the playoffs. We're digging into the biggest surprises of the season. And I'm looking back on some of my greatest playoff moments. If we didn't talk ever again, I was harmed. You just understood. That's how personal it got. Wow. Then after that game seven, Marquis come in. He's like, you know I love you, dog. You know, it's all love. This was just playoffs. This was just basketball. So listen to Point Game on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The volume. Well, I have to imagine that it is a great moment for a defensive coordinator when his team is in an elimination game and backed up against its own goal line, a tie game against a division rival.

And all of a sudden he sees one of his guys with the football running 98 yards the other way. I'm not surprised that it happened because my next guest, Lou Adirubo, probably drew that play up somehow, that a force fumble going right into Sam Hubbard's hands. And his reward is he gets to now try to stop Josh Allen, Stefan Diggs, and company. And he is very graciously joining us while taking a little break. Lou, how are you, man?

Doing great. Yeah, doing great. Glad to be with you, Mike. Like, it's, I wish I could say that we practiced that one, but, you know, the guys did a great job. And it was all, you know, there's so many names for that now, the fumble in the jungle, the immaculate rejection. And the one I like the best is Sam, you know, I told Sam that it's the longest fumble return in NFL playoff history, I believe. It's also the slowest. Yeah, I was a little worried when Mark Andrews was coming.

You know, that's cool because I actually, I think I christened the last nickname related to that stadium, which was the meltdown at Paul Brown. And I think you remember what I'm talking about. That included Joey Porter, one of the sly coaching moves of all time, going out of the field to check on an injured player and provoking. a Bengal into a personal foul. And yeah, we all know what happened. The rest is history, as they say, yeah.

The rest is history. And that was brutal because that came at the end of a long streak for Marvin Lewis where they had not won a playoff game and had been a bunch of years. And that was supposed to be the one. And obviously it didn't happen. So, yeah, we'll get into all of that. This is an incredible time to be a Bengal fan, I'm sure, for people. And, you know, I know you will say,

You don't practice that, of course. But I do want to ask you, like, there's this new thing where people are allowed to push from behind. And offenses are taking advantage of it. They're just kind of instructing their giant linemen to get behind quarterbacks or whoever has the ball and give them that extra push. So they're at the one yard line trying to get in. They run what looks like it's going to be a sneak. are you, are there coaching points related to that whole pushing thing? You know, it's hard, you know, it's just the way the league, you know,

some of the rules are where, you know, we're going to be in a situation where, let's just call it what it is, they got a little bit of an advantage there because they're pushing the guy forward. We just, we really talk about, you know, the guys up front on that particular play, DJ and BJ Hill and, you know, Zach Carter, Josh Tupil, they really got great penetration. And then Jermaine's, stood the guy up and then both him and Logan punched up through and there was the ball and

Sam was in the right spot. So nothing more than we just got to get great get off so that we can stop the initial push and then everybody's got to rally to the to the ball. I guarantee the punching part is a coaching point. That's got to be. Yeah, there's no doubt about that. We work on that all the time like a lot of teams do. And we just got some guys that are aware of the ball and aware of the situation. You know, there's some smart players out there for us. And the skill required to know that you're punching it right to Hubbard. We could catch it and then go in stride. But, yeah, that's really cool.

Well, it sets up this rematch that, you know, not really a rematch, but a resumption of this great match. Yeah, can we start seven three with the ball in our offense? Yeah, that would be one way. of doing it, but then we'd probably have to go back and redo all the playoff scenarios and then play again the next week. Yeah. Wow.

I mean, well, first of all, okay, so obviously a few weeks ago, you guys are playing that big nationally televised game and it's heavy playoff implications. And then all of a sudden, you know, like everyone, we're all just fearing for DeMar Hamlin's well-being. you know, just, I know you've probably talked about it a bunch, but take me through that from your experience. Yeah, I mean, just, yeah, all of our years, you know, coaching players, you know, you never want to ever see that again. And the good news about the whole thing is the way it was handled by both organizations, the doctors and trainers were unbelievable on the field, the paramedics that showed up, you know, and saved his life. And the great news about the whole thing is, you know, he's back in the facility now every day.

He's visiting with his teammates. And, you know, that's all that matters, that he's fine. And he's making the, making a great recovery and so happy for him and his family. You know, what was the interaction like on your sideline just between players and players, players and coaches? Yeah, I mean, just as it was going on, you know, everybody was just kind of in shock. and just trying to stay back and let the professionals work. And, you know, I know Jordan Phillips on their team pretty well. He was, we drafted him when I was at Miami.

So we were kind of talking in midfield as it was going on. And, you know, it was just a really sensitive and emotional time. And again, thank God. Everything worked out the way it has. And he's going to be fine. And I've said a couple times now in interviews about it, I said that should be a case study on what to do from a medical standpoint and how to, you know, again, hopefully it never happens again.

But man, that was, you know, you want to talk about a two-minute winning drive? There it is from a medical standpoint for sure. Unbelievable. And yeah, and I really thought, you know, now that it's been broken down and just watching it on TV, I really thought Zach Taylor, your head coach and Sean McDermott, you know, just really handled it as leaders the way that you'd want to. No question. You know, Zach and Sean did a great job and the players did a great job getting together and just the whole thing was handled great. That's awesome. Well, luckily, because it went so great, we can now talk about things that are

way less important, but not totally unimportant, like how the NFL tried to figure out what they were going to do because it wasn't like it was just the game. It was, you know, probably, you know, two of the very, very best teams in football and it affected all sorts of playoff scenarios. And I don't think there was a perfect solution. So, you know, I've ripped the NFL many times about many things, especially now, Lou, that I don't work for them anymore. I feel very unencumbered. But I understand they were dealing with a lot of different constituencies. And, concerns that it wasn't going to be perfect. But I am somewhat sympathetic to the Bengals perspective, which is, okay, they address the Ravens Bengals issue with the coin flip scenario, which was

irrelevant. It turned out or moot. They addressed the Bill's chief scenario with the neutral site, which you're hoping is also moot after this weekend. But they didn't really address the Bengals situation, which is if you guys had won that game and you were winning at the time, that's fair, you know, it probably, it probably wasn't addressed in terms of how to make it right for you guys. Did you spend a lot of time thinking about it and, you know, what's your thought on it? Yeah, I mean, it's tough. You know, Zach's just kind of addressed it and, you know, we've got so much to worry about and that one, I can bitch and complain about it all I want. but nobody's going to listen.

So you just try to spend our time on trying to stop these guys. For the record, I would listen if I were there and we were having beers. I appreciate it. I would definitely listen. But, you know, and I know you would say it all with the caveat of, hey, as long as the guy's okay, it's all good. Yeah, no doubt about it. We get it.

But these are big things. Okay, so, you know, you had to approach this team game plan-wise. once we saw a little taste of what was going on, but now you got to do it again. You know, Josh Allen is not your normal quarterback who, you know, if you hit him, he's going to go down necessarily and you could just contain him. You know, what are some of the challenges of dealing with him and them? Yeah, I mean, you know, this is obvious why he's always in the conversation for the MVP of the league.

He's such a talented guy can get out of all kinds of trouble and make every throw further and deeper than most. There's a play, they played the Jets in New York, the last play of the game where he's scrambling. I think he throws at 70 yards in the air and hits the receiver right in the chest

and the guy drops it. But that to me was like my wow moment, if you will. So, I mean, he's going to get out. He's going to make plays. Everybody talks about, you know, containing them. And we're certainly going to try to do that all the time. But we just got to minimize those plays when they happen. And, you know, he has had a tendency to turn the ball over lately.

And we've got to take advantage of that. And when he gives us opportunities, we've got to make the plays. What's the coverage for that when a guy's going back across his body, 72 yards? Yeah, correct. The prey coverage. Lots of pruers. All right. I've got to get into this quote from Peyton Manning,

because the night after your game, there's a Monday night playoff game, and it's the Rams and the, or excuse me, last year, the Bucks of the Cowboys. The Manning cast is going on, and, you know, Peyton, I just saw him last weekend. They do such a good job with that.

It's always good. But he happened. to talk about halftime adjustments. And in classic Peyton fashion, he went big, he went hard. And he said, quote, I don't think I made a half-time adjustment in my entire 18-year career. I think that's the biggest myth in football, the halftime adjustments. You go in, use the restroom, eat a couple of oranges, and the coach says, let's go. So funny.

Also, that's Peyton Manning, one of the great strategists in the history of it. any players, you know. And yet I wanted to get your reaction to that because you're kind of the halftime adjustment savant of this league, at least that's the word on the street, that you really maximize those 12 minutes amid the orange eating and the peeing. You know, what is halftime to you? Yeah, I mean, I don't think Peyton's totally wrong there. It's very, very short other than the Super Bowl.

where you got too much time on your hands there. But, you know, to me, I think what he's getting at is you're constantly talking on the sidelines during each, after each possession on, hey, what do you think about this? What should we change here? And I think for us, it's, I've said it all along, is it's a little bit about that is the one time where you get to sit, the guys are sitting right in front of you. And if there's one message that you want to drive home going into the second half, you can. instead of just going from group to group on the sideline,

they're all focused there. I think that's a big part of what the message would be, but also just maybe changes things up from a call standpoint as the game is progressing. That helps too for some of our success in the past. Well, Patrick Mahomes, you've played him three times, and his second half numbers against you are zero touchdowns, two interceptions,

54.5 passer rating, and you guys won those games against everyone else at the time that I saw this stat since 2020, 59 touchdowns, 20 interceptions, 106.4 passer rating. I know that's not all you, and you're going to be modest, but, you know, the last year's AFC championship game, they were up 213. It was 2110 at the half. You stopped them right at the end. And then, clearly in the second half something changed. And obviously that's a testament to your players too. But how do you, on the fly, how do you try to deal with someone like Mahomes who's so good and who nobody's really found the secret sauce for?

Yeah. And you mentioned it. You know, the guys are out there playing and they do a great job. But again, I just think it's just trying to keep those great MVP type quarterbacks off balance somehow. If it's something different that they haven't seen in the first half, that we're kind of keeping in our back pocket, that, you know, sometimes that's a part of it, executing a little bit better as the game's going on. But I just think you've got to keep changing it up on them. And if they get a beat on what you're doing, it's going to be a long day.

So really more just kind of trying to keep them off balance, not, you know, be more of an offensive-minded play caller on defense where, you know, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let him see this now as opposed to just reacting to what they do. Yeah, that's interesting because I guess, you know, you'd rather, you know, if he's going to get you, you'd rather go down swinging. That's right. Instead of just sitting there and letting them, you know, do it over and over again. For sure.

You know, I guess is there a, can you think of a half time in the last couple of years where you've done something just completely radical or maybe in the, course of the game where you've just said, you know what, we plan for this all week, but now we're just going to completely change. I don't think it's ever been that drastic, to be honest. There have been times where, you know, even this past Sunday where, you know, all of a sudden, Mike Hilton's out in the game in the second half and he creates two huge plays on two defenses where we, he runs all the time, but we never ran it against the Ravens before. and something like that where, you know, we were like, okay, I think this can be

productive and here's why, because they had given us some formations that looked more like we could use this particular defense. We did it and Mike, you know, was very productive there. So more things like that, you know, we're, okay, here's what the offense is doing. How can we adjust to it and make some things that may have not been in the plan, but the guys know it. I could call it at any time. And that's a big part of it.

You know, we've got guys in the system now for years. and we've got super smart players and that helps us and allows us to do it. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games.

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Yep, that's me, Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment,

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and IHart Podcasts presents soccer moms. So I'm Leanne. This is my best friend Janet. Hey. And we have been joined at the hips since high school. Absolutely. Now a redacted amount of years later. We're still joined at the hip.

Just a little bit bigger hips, wider. This is a podcast. We're recording it as we tailgate our youth soccer games in the back of my Honda Odyssey. with all the snacks and drink. Sidebar. Why did you get hard seltzer instead of beer? Oh, they had a bogo.

Well, then you got it. Do you want a white collar or something here? Just hit it. Oh, what are y'all doing? Microphones? Are you making a rap album? Come on. Can you move?

I would buy it. Cuts through the defense like a hot knife through sponge cake. That sounds delicious. Oh, you're lucky. I'm not a drug addict. You're lucky I'm not an alcoholic. You are. You are.

I'm not a killer. I love this team, and I'm really. trying to be a figure in their lives that they can rely on. Oh. Oh. Oh. Listen to soccer moms on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Well, I remember standing with you at FedEx Field in the preseason last year,

2020-21 season, and Joe Burrow was walking around with a big brace on. And, you know, I don't think he played in that preseason game, but you guys, guys were easing him back. But I just remember telling you telling me how special he was. And we'd obviously seen that before. But we really, really saw it, you know, late last season through the Super Bowl and beyond. I love the guy's, you know, aura. Like, and what he said, what he was asked about your window and his quote was, the window is my whole career. First of all, I agree. And secondly, bless him for saying it. I know he's so competitive. I know how you are. What's it like when you guys go at it and practice and trading camp? Do you have a lot of interaction? Oh, yeah. I love Joe and

not just because of the kind of player is. He's got, you know, he's like a linebacker playing quarterback. He's he's tough. He's gritty. You know, he wants to win everything he does, whether it's ping pong in the locker room or, you know, an NFL playoff game. You know, he's going at it that way. And we do, we do talk if there's a particular, not just in the preseason in OTAs, but now, like, if there's a blitz that I'm looking at or a disguise, while they're not going, I'll say, hey, guys, take a look at this. And, you know, oh, I didn't see that.

Oh, yeah, I saw that coming. And they, the quarterbacks, you know, Jake Browning and Brandon Allen, along with Joe, Those guys help me all the time. Well, if he gets you in practice, will he kind of look over and give you a little smirk? He'll give me a little something, something, yeah. And I'll do the same. I'll do the same way back.

Now, his father, Jimmy, didn't you have, didn't you cross paths as coaches or know him back in the day? Yeah, you know as coaches. But Jimmy was the defensive coordinator at Ohio, you. And I was coaching at Purdue. and we used to have a bunch of common opponents. And I met Jimmy through Monty Kiffin, you know, the Nebraska connection there. And Jimmy and I know each other probably since early 2000.

So we go way back. We text all the time. And he's a great football coach, you know, great dad, obviously. But Jimmy's a good friend. And so back then, like, was his kid ever walking around, Joe? You know, I never met Joe then. but Jimmy would say, hey, I got to bring my son Joe to this camp or that camp. And I would just be like, all right, you know, yeah, he's getting recruited.

But, and I, and I remember, I remember it vividly. Like, hey, my son's going to the Ohio State camp or this camp. And, you know, and initially, and then I heard some other friends say, hey, Jimmy's sound really good. I was like, okay, that's great. You know, I hope he does well. And well, it's Joe Burrow. So, you know.

Turns out he actually is really good. That's funny. I was thinking about that. I was in the 49er locker room yesterday and Christian McCaffrey's there. So you'll see behind me the Cal Helmut. I'm a proud golden bear. And yet when I was at Sports Illustrated in the 90s, I sucked it up and wrote a feature on Ed McCaffrey, who was that a really, really good wide receiver for the Broncos, and a proud Stanford grad, his wife Lisa went there. So I have this vivid recollection of being at their house. and Max and Christian, their two oldest boys, are running around. I think I put it in the story. Christian was maybe two. And ever, you know, for years now, I've gone back to that moment and thought,

couldn't you have just swept the leg or just, you know, you could have spared yourself as a Cal fan so much misery if you had just, you know, taken the kid out when he was two. That's amazing, right? Right. And there's actually a quote of the story. Lisa McCaffrey, her father was an Olympic, I think, medalist in the 100 meters. Oh, wow.

Great sprinter. And so there's a quote from Lases that says, ha, ha, ha, we're breeding fast white guys and made it in Sports Illustrated. And that actually did also pan out. So there you go. So do you get involved in the cigar stuff when Joe whips those out in the locker room? Yeah, mixing actually gave me one after the, after we won the AFC North. So I partaked for sure. I love it.

I enjoyed it very much so. All right. Well, you may have three more. You know, because the Bengals, you know, had that long run where they couldn't get over the hump and win a playoff game. And then they've had a lot of bad seasons. I think it caught a lot of people off guard last year. And you guys were coming off a rough year where Joe had gotten hurt. So you went to.

You didn't just go to the Super Bowl. You came very, very close to winning the Super Bowl. You came back this year. You addressed the offensive line. So on paper, I thought, wow, this team could get even better. But I think I was in the minority because it just seemed like there was a sense that, you know, they overachieve last year. They're going to come down.

And then you guys kind of started a little slow. Was that something you guys tried to guard against, you know, the letdown or, or, you know, how did that all play out? They're going to be honest. I just think we felt good in our locker room. We never lost momentum from the Super Bowl. You know, yeah, we lost the first two games. But, you know, they were both on the last play of the game.

That could have won either way. And here we are, you know, six months later and we've won nine in a row. And really, I haven't heard too much about that. So it's hard to do in the NFL. and, you know, this is a great group of guys who are very prideful on what they do. And, you know, we feel good about every game we line up against no matter who it is. I got a couple more for you because I know you got to go back and obsess over Gabe Davis and Dosset Knox and all of them.

You're a proud Staten Island native. And you went back and coached with the Giants in 2018. and you decided, I'm just going to live in my childhood home while I do this? What was that like? So here's how it went. So here's how it went. Okay, I get the giant job. My family, my youngest, I'm trying to get everybody straight here,

we were going to leave them back in Miami in Fort Lauderdale. And so he could finish his freshman year in high school. And, you know, so instead of paying rent up in New York, my mom and dad still live in the house I grew up in. My room was available. So why not? So I go back and here I am sleeping in the same bed when I was a huge giant fan growing up. And now I'm getting up every morning going to work and going to Giant Stadium. It was unbelievable, you know, really to begin with.

And then, you know, the best part, the other best part about it was my mom texting me every day, what time are you going to be home for dinner? I was like, mom, I'm not coming home for dinner. You're like 2 a.m. Yeah, you should have seen the food left out from me when I got home at 10, 11 o'clock at night. So it was awesome. It was awesome. Just give me a taste of like what that would have looked like.

Oh, my God. Like my mother's a great cook. let's just go with my favorite, like, chicken colors, you know, like stacked up high and then any kind of pasta you can imagine, you know, forget it. It's all good stuff. I don't know how you're said. It's incredible. It's unbelievable.

Yeah. So was the bad like a, like, you know, twin or like how small is that bad? Yeah, it was kind of tight, a little tight, new mattress, thank God. But it was a little bit tight. My legs were hanging off. And I feel like I'm just trying to visualize, like, a, Bavarro poster over the bad, baby. Yeah, it was Sims and L.T.

Sims and L.T. I love. I bus Sims is chops all the time. I feel weird talking to you, man. I used to have a poster in my room. Like, you know, come on. I remember, you know, growing up, grew up as a 49er fan, but in L.A., which was not a popular thing. And, you know, Joe Montana kind of turned around the whole trajectory of that franchise when I was 16.

And then, you know, about seven years later, I'm doing a tequila shot with Joe Montana at training camp while covering them. So, you know, it's crazy how this stuff happens. Well, and then, you know, I look, I'm just going to get on my soapbox for a second. There's a lot of really good coaches in this league and a lot of people are in this current cycle. I personally, if I were an odor, would be all over you just based on achievement. And I know these things are out of your control. But, you know, I know you're not a guy who has self-promoted and campaign. You just put your head down and do your thing.

You know, what's your philosophy on being a head coach of the NFL? Do you want to? Do you think you'd be good at it? Yeah. I mean, you know, I think it's all coaches, I think, aspire to be. that. It's certainly my ultimate goal. And, you know, I think it's all about relationships. I think it's all about connecting with all of the players on the team, not just a particular group of guys on the team. It's all of them. And that's one of the things that, you know,

as you mentioned, I'm not a guy that's going to go out there and toot my own horn, but I've always been able to get along with people. And that's what this business is. And that's what that job entails. It's leading men in the direction that sometimes they don't want to go. and you know to me that's what makes a good head coach among other things but yeah i'm hoping for that chance at some point well i hope you get it too and in the meantime you are going to buffalo and we will be watching with great interest hopefully for you three times before all is said and done but thank you so much for take take of the time no i appreciate mike always a pleasure and anytime. Thanks again.

Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and Friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel, help an a cappella

band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and Friends on the I-heart radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged.

It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hard radio app,

Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what I'm saying. Yep, that's me, Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, my basketball and college football journey, or my career in sports media.

Well, now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifers Show. This is a place for raw, unfills of conversations with athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. So let's get to it. Listen to the Clifford show on the IHeard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok podcast network on TikTok. What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas. And I'm CJ Toledano. It's our favorite time of the year on our podcast point game, the playoffs. We're digging into the biggest surprises of the season. And I'm looking back on some of my greatest playoff moments. If we didn't talk ever again, I was crying. You just understood. That's how personal it got.

Wow. Then after that game seven, Marquis keep coming to you. You know I love you, dog. You know, it's all love. This was just playoffs. This was just basketball. So listen to Point Game on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.