The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Open Mike - Brandon Graham on Eagles' expectations, Walter Payton Man of the Year nomination

Episode Date: January 14, 2023

Philadelphia Eagles' defensive end Brandon Graham talks to Mike Silver about his team capturing the #1 seed in the NFC, his personal transformation from draft "bust" to Super Bowl champion, being nominated for the Walter Payton Man of the Year award, and how Nick Sirianni's rough first few press conferences brought him closer to the players on the Eagles. #volume #herdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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The volume. All right, we're here on Open Mic. I'm going to do kind of a long intro here. So bear with me. My guest is going to have to take this. But I want to go back to 2020. Pro Bowl votes come out or the selections come out. I'm kind of looking at the list.

And I see the name Brandon Graham. And I think I might have jumped out of my seat. I was so excited because this dude has been a great player for a long time. One of the best dudes there is. And finally, he was going to the Pro Bowl. The next year, week two, he tears his Achilles. I think it's year 12 at that point. I'm like, oh, man, that's tough.

Edge rusher, is he going to make it back? The dude just put down 11 sacks for one of the greatest sacking defeckel. defensive teams ever and is trying to get back to the Super Bowl. Brandon Graham, nobody could hold you down. Thank you for joining us. Oh, yeah. Thank you, man. You know, it's been a great journey coming back from that Achilles.

I tried to enjoy every day even when I was down, you know, just trying to make sure that for this moment, waiting on this moment to come where, you know, the comeback season. I show seeing the light, even because I knew that I still had. a year with Philadelphia based off my guarantees. So I knew I had one year to do it. And so, man, I'm just thankful, you know, definitely said my prayers and my prayers have been answered for sure. I have a lot I want to get into about the Eagles.

But before I even go there, since I mentioned the Pro Bowl, so they changed the Pro Bowl format. It's not a game anymore. There's like Dodge Ball, a long drive competition, water balloon throwing. How do you feel about the new Pro Bowl? You know what? I like it, man. I like it. I really do. But you're not going to get as many people backing out as much as you was because it don't matter if you heard or not. You know, you can still do some of that stuff. And I know for me, I mean, I just, I'm glad that I haven't been able to go only because of, well, I would have been able to go to the 2020 year, but COVID. But then, you know, we don't want to go because we want to be in that Super Bowl. That's a great jumping off point. So I got to ask you, you're coming back off the injury and, you know, they made some moves in the offseason. They went and got A.J. Brown, among others. There was a little bit of hype about the Eagles, but did you see this coming? A 13-1 start, the number one seed, a real Super Bowl possibility heading into the playoffs. Did you see this happening back in the summer?

You know what? Training camp I did. I started to feel it a little more. I knew that we had some good stuff. but I had to know in pads because you look good at OTAs. Everybody do. Everybody look fast, fresh. Everybody happy to come back and show off their bodies, show that they've been doing work. But then when you get them pads, it is a little different. You know, and then it's the grind of every day. How do we practice?

Am I going to have to get guys going? Do they know how to practice? I mean, you've got to learn from what you see the vets do some of the younger guys coming in. I felt like, you know, we just had a bunch of guys that just, that just gelled well together this year. And, man, that's something that's always a great start for your team. And I knew that going back that we had that part. But training camp was when I really was like, oh, man, we got something special.

If we stay healthy, we're going to be all right because the year before we didn't stay healthy and we still made it to the playoffs. But, man, I'm telling you, if we stay healthy, we're going to be all right. And 13 and 1 start, boy, that was, man, still is. still is a fun time. Time is flying because of how much fun we have in right now. Well, you've been through quite a bit in your NFL career. You know, didn't start out well early.

I think you called yourself a bust at one point. They asked you to play in the three-four as a linebacker. There was, you know, there were trade rumors, possibilities of you being released. Then it started rolling. then you made the biggest play in the history of the franchise. And we talked about the Pro Bowl. We talked about the Achilles.

How did you react this year when they told you, hey, we got a different role in mind for you. And by different, we mean fewer plays. How did you process that? You know what at first, I mean, like I always do, I just adjust and was like, oh, okay, yeah. I mean, I'm down for whatever for the team. but when you actually had to live it

in the beginning, it was tough because it's like moments where you know you can help the team and it's like you're not out there and you got to sit back and, you know, take a step back because of the other guys that's in there that's really good

with sweating highs and, you know, whenever, you know, they need me, they put me out there. But it was tough in the beginning, though. I had to keep talking to myself, keep telling myself not, don't worry, everything going to happen, the right way to when you get in, just look at yourself as the knockout.

You know, them guys jabbing, jabbing, getting them ready, and then you come in with the knockout punch. And once I start thinking like that, it started really happening like that. And so for me, man, that's when I stopped tripping. And I wasn't really, like, you know how I go. You have them feelings on the inside,

and you try to be the bigger person through them feelings. But it was tough. It was tough at first. But as the season kept going, I started getting used to it. Then I started making more plays. And I was just like, man, chill out. Like, you know, we got a really good team, enjoy this.

And then we started seeing that the sack started going up. We could all get double digits. And we just started helping each other get there. And it turned it to some more because I have my attitude right, man. So I think it's just a credit to just me trying to, you know, talking about it with other guys and letting them know how I really felt. And then on top of that, making sure that I channeled that and used it for my benefit it on the field. And so whenever I was feeling like that, I just took it out on the person

that I had to go against the next time. Well, in the city that brought us Joe Frazier, Bernard Hopkins, so many great boxers, the knockouts are coming fast and furious. You guys have 70 sacks, the most of the NFL, the first team in history to have four guys at double digits sack-wise. What's that intra-defense, you know, defensive line copy? Like, do you guys have friendly, you know, competitions? How does that all work? Oh, yeah. We started off like that in the beginning, having a little.

Who was going to get the first sack? And me and Fletch got the first one, but Fletch wasn't in on the festivities. So I end up winning that one because we got to have a sack. When we first started, the Lions game, we were saying, whoever get the first sack, you get this. And so I ended up getting that, and it was cool, you know. And we haven't made nothing crazy. but when we started seeing that we was really good

and was like, you know, we could really do some things. It was just all about helping each other running games together. Like you've seen it really at work, the Chicago game where Josh Sweat and Hargrave was running different games and got each other both two sacks apiece. And we knew that what's the name, needed 10 to break his, what's the name, double digits, you know, sack. And they end up doing that for you.

each other. So that was cool, man. That's what that just let you know how together everybody is. Just trying to see each other win on top of, you know, yourself winning too by being selfless. So you don't get like a car or something. It's just it's a smaller. Oh yeah. It's just a small little fun, fun wager. You know how I go. There's nothing that's going to make a break anybody. I'm always curious with you because, you know, one of my favorite seasons I've ever covered was that 2017 season where you guys magically, you know, survive the injury to Carson Wedd. I was at that game in L.A. And then, you know, I was at pretty much all your games in the playoffs when you guys just took it up a notch with Nick Fools. So now we're at the Super Bowl and,

you know, it looks like Tom Brady might be able to do it one more time. I see you coming free off the edge. My eyes kind of got big in the press box. Like, could this happen? And then Bab, Strip Sack, confetti, victory party, all that. And so I remember saying probably for the first of many times that night, you know, Brandon Graham will never buy a meal in Philadelphia again. But have you bought a meal in Philadelphia again? You know what? I have, but I still get people, even at the jobs that I mean,

even at the places I go eat, oh, you good, man. And I always, you know, got to pay for something. I always tip. So whatever that money I was going to pay, I tip that person or whatever. But, you know, it's just, it's been a great, it's been fun, man. That's a reason why I'm living here now because of the love, you know, the fans have showed me over the years, even though it didn't start off like this.

But I tell the young guys, it's not how you start, it's how you finish, and, you know, you stay the course. You stay, you stay focused on what you know, what you believe. And I believe I was going to be one of these, a good, I believe that I was a great pick for the Eagles. On top of, you know, all the stuff that I was going through, I still believe that I still had something that I had to prove to make sure that, no, I let them know that they ain't waste a pick on me.

And so, man, it was just the perseverance of just talking it out when I was going through, growing through things because it wasn't easy in the beginning. And then just making sure I practice her, even today, you know, still carrying that chip on my shoulder, letting them know that it don't matter, like, you know, what it is, like, you know, or how I'm feeling. I'm just trying to do everything I can for this team. And I know y'all going to need me. So I got to make sure I practice good just as much as I'm going to need jobs

and make sure that we motivate each other. Because, man, it's like everybody's at home right now, except the ones that can persevere through the hardship of the season. And now we're here in this moment. And there's no time to turn down now. It's time to turn it up. That sounds like Win Win, by the way. You're in a restaurant.

Some grateful Eagles fan is, like, hey, man, we got you. And then you give the money that you were going to pay to the waiter or waitress. Yeah. Yeah, that's beautiful. That's what you got to do, man. You got to pay it forward. So sometimes even when I'm in like a line, you know, I get some stuff started.

I pay for the person in the back and tell them to pass it on, passing forward. No, just a little fun stuff, man, because it's always, I'm always trying to serve. And, you know, always trying to put a smile on somebody face. And so little stuff like that definitely goes. long way and I'm just doing it just to kind of see somebody you know smile because you never know what people going through imagine an olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged it's the enhanced games some call it grotesque others say it's unleashing human potential either way the podcast superhuman documented it all embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year

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We're recording it as we tailgate our youth soccer games. in the back of my Honda Odyssey with all the snacks and drink. Sidebar. Why did you get hard seltzer instead of beer? Oh, they had a bogo. Well, then you got it. Do you want a white collar or something here? Just a hit it.

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Oh. Listen to soccer moms on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Well, you did get an honor earlier this year that is incredible. You were the nominee by the Eagles for the Walter Payton NFL Man of the Year Award, and you have done so much in the community for so long in Detroit and Philadelphia. and, you know, I think what you just said underscores what everyone knows about you that you are trying to serve. The Eagles kind of had a unique way of let you know you were the nominee. How did that all play out?

What was that experience like? Man, it was just like a regular day. We was on our way to walk through before we go to practice. And they kept on, you know, come on, come on. You got to come, you know, out here before you go to what's name? It was just like a regular little day. and I'm over here giving them a hard time like, man, let's wait to afterwards. Let me do this.

Let me, I got all this other stuff I'm trying to do real quick. And sure enough, I go out and boy, they pull up on me with the signs saying nominee, man of the year. I say, what? I couldn't believe it. It wasn't even on my radar, you know, because I thought, I didn't know how it went as far as who get nominated. I just will see guys get nominated. And then I'd be like, man, congratulations, all that stuff. And I thought that I ain't do enough to even get nominated.

like, boy, when you start reading some of these people and what they're doing in the office seats, I say, man, I need to step my game up. But, I mean, I always go to a bunch of events. And I do a lot of stuff in the community already. But for the team to nominate me, man, if anything, they have made, you know, another, they made me check off another box that I wasn't even, didn't even have on my list of things that are the accomplice in this league. And that's for that to be the most prestigious war in this league.

I'm just thankful to be a nominee, even if I don't win it. But I'm going to give my best shot to try to win it. Well, there's a really cool video on the Eagles website, I think, or it's out there where they had a mock press conference. And in the press conference that you walked in thinking it's a press conference, and there's all these people that you've helped and they shared their stories. I mean, that was just such a, must have been such a cool moment for you. It is.

Like it just had me just like keep it together, beat, keep it together. I mean, if anything, man, it just made me, like I say, want to serve some more because, man, you just never know who you in moments, you know, when you pass by people. Sometimes, you know, you're not feeling like, oh, man, I just want to go home. I want to do this. And it's like, man, I'm always thinking of that when I'm in that mode of like, no, this is the time when you really need to get your time because right now is something that's pushing you, pulling you back in. And maybe this is the reason why I'm here to serve this. person. So I always try to catch myself when I'm in that mode. And I remember being in that mode for one of them. And then I was just like, you know what, forgetting. And it turned out to be

even like me helping him during a hard, hard time. And so that just, you know, just motivated me more, man, just to keep being me and keep making those decisions when I do feel like those moments. You know how you feel in the moments where you got to make a decision. And I'm going to try to choose the right way most of the time. Well, you talked about, you know, your start in the NFL. And if I recall at Michigan, didn't you kind of have a slow start at Michigan, too? Where you were over 300 pounds at 9? Yeah.

I came in, man. Like, what happened was I played in the U.S. Army All-American game. And then in college in Michigan, you can't go out of state to play. They had a rule where you couldn't go out of state to play all-star games or anything. because they wanted you to play the one that was in Michigan. And so I planned on playing in Michigan, too, but I end up going anyway to the, because I was like, man, who get to go down to the All-American Bowl?

Man, I'm going. So they suspended me from all spring sports after that, so I couldn't run track, couldn't do a lot of stuff. Then on top of that, I looked at it like I had senior writers at the time too. So I would just enjoy my senior year, took care of business in school. That was always one thing that my mom always stayed on me about. So when I was able to get a break, I took a break, but it cost me. It cost me. It was a 50-pound game break. Best decision I ever did, though, because I would have never moved a defensive end

and probably would have never strips at Tom Brady. You know what I'm saying? So, but I definitely know at that time, man, like I had to adjust when I got to college. And once I got into that program of doing everything and my attitude of working hard every day, started paying off by the second year, man. I ain't looked back since. A lot of people don't know this, but Brandon was recruited as a slot receiver. No, I'm just kidding. I hear you. So you move to defensive ed. You crush it in the Big Ten. And now it's draft day. And the Eagles go up and get you at 13 overall. And then you suffer through, you know, injuries the first couple of years that really, you know, hurt you. And then you came out and said after year two.

I am a bust. Obviously, that's not a fun thing to say. What was going through your mind at that point? Just tired of hearing people calling me that. And so I just was like, you know, well, let me kill that noise by just calling myself that. And then, you know, what else can they, when else can they do? How low, how much lower can it get? And so I just admitted to it.

Like, right now, I am a bus. I ain't done nothing. But I know from there, I was like, yeah, they're going to eat them words. You know what I'm saying? And I'm going to make sure I'm. flip it. And I just kept going. I had guys like Trent Cole, had JP, you know, just always used to stay on me saying like, man, you better make sure that you come in, coming with it every day in practice. Because every day that you get to fight back, that's going to be in practice. And so

that's how I still carry that stuff to this day, man, like today. I knew that, you know, it was a little pressure from, man, we got to make sure we write, make sure we fix a lot of the issues that we had these last couple games, get back to the basics. And, and, you know, And today I had that chip on my shoulder to let coach know I'm with them. Let them know that, you know, like I say, we got to turn up even more of what we do than to turn down because a lot of people wish that they could go back and do it over again because I'm sure they had a bunch of regret as a team. And I don't want that for us.

I want us to make sure that we just come with it every day. It's only one day. Don't worry about tomorrow. Worry about today. Take care of the day. Go hard because I feel good about what I put in. So when I look at the film tomorrow, I'm proud of it, and then I'm going to put some more good film out of what I do in the practice tomorrow.

So, yeah, man, I'm just trying to get them to just have that attitude of just, it don't matter what other people talking about or what they're doing. It's about what we're doing and making sure that you straight, when I need you in the moment and you, stuff that we've been over, it's like just second nature to you now because we've done it so much and you enjoy doing it because you know it's only going to help you when that moment come when you got to do it in the game. So that's what I've been just trying to echo all week for the guys.

You're a Detroit guy. I feel like you saying I'm a bus. It's kind of like the seat at eight mile, whatever that goes or wraps and says all the things about himself. Yeah, he choked. Yeah, you know, that's the hardest thing to do, man, is to accept some stuff that's real at that time. And I think when I did that, everything took off from me after that, man.

It was like, what else could have? what else can happen. So just go be you. And that's how I kind of took it. And that's what happened. Nick Seriani, your current coach, came in after 2020, Doug Peterson, a very popular coach who'd won a Super Bowl, was let go. Early on Siriani, like some of us on the outside were worried because he had so rough

press conferences where we were like, oh, man, I don't know. Were you guys worried at all on the inside when he was doing like the rock, the paper, scissors stuff? No, I thought he just brought a unique young way of trying to connect with the team. People took it how they took it. But I'm glad he killed that narrative by just winning, because winning solved it all. And they didn't care if he talked about them flowers or what they had, the little flower mask and all that stuff. People were killing them. Even he was killing itself, you know, talking about it with the team.

You know, we all was laughing because he was just like, man, I couldn't breathe the first press conference. and I just was talking and I just didn't know where I was going, certain stuff. And, man, I'm just happy that, you know, he's more comfortable in this role. I'm happy to how everything played out for him in his second year, similar to Doug season. Like when Doug first came, it was like, you know, I don't think we made the playoffs the first year Doug came, but he ended up making the playoffs. We made a run. And I think that kind of eased everybody to say, okay, we can build off that.

Jalen is the guy and not coming into this year how we did some great things by picking up some great picks on top of us having that feeling of knowing we lost in the first round last year. But, you know, we made that run and when we put our mind to it, we could definitely get back, if not better. And I think that the guys took that to heart what happened last year, even myself, being on the sideline, seeing that being down in Tampa and we lost that game when we could have easily won that game. Not even easily, but just, you know what I mean. Like we gave, we could have gave ourselves an even better shot to win that game. But we learned from it. And now, man, I'm just happy to be in that position again,

other than we know we got the first round vibe of being in the postseason to try to go win another championship. When a coach says that, like when a coach gets clowned in the media that comes out and says to you guys, yeah, man, I just couldn't breathe. That's got to make you love them more, right? Heck yeah, because I know that feeling, man. When I first got on radio, I didn't really. realize like how fast paced and how live everything was because I'm so used to pre-recorded so I can kind of start over again all and on all right cut that y'all let's start over let's do this

over again but when you on that radio well I got to talking and I couldn't breathe and it was just like who because I was so nervous and man I know exactly if I was being a head coach it would be the same thing of a team it's like what the heck did I just do where am I going with this like because I know for hell, man. It was a great accomplishment to finally be a head coach coming from being a position coach and for somebody to trust you to run their team based off their interviews. I mean, you know, I know it was a great feeling for them. So to have that feeling, you know, a nervousness, it definitely connected us even more

because I still have that nervousness when we first go out and you're trying to see how they come in a day. And it's like, okay, soon as that, soon as you get your first. first hit, okay, Ben, I'm ready. I'm ready to go. And that was his first hit. First press the conference, who, finally got out of the way, and it's got better after that. I love it. Well, you have come so far because you just did an incredible podcast right now. No do-overs, perfect answers. And it's always great to talk to you, man. I'm really excited to watch you on this journey. And I think maybe I'll see you in the NFC Championship game again. Let's go. We just got one game at a time, man. Enjoy this week off. No pressure. Just make it about us.

And, you know, just bring your best when it comes to whoever we play. Just make sure we carry out the game plan. And that's it. That's all you can really ask for. All right. Well, I've been covering that Brock Purdy story. I know you're trying to end that, but it'll be fun to watch. They're a really good team. You know, we are too. You know, so it's just about like when it comes down, how small the margin is of error. You got to make sure that we come out on the positive side of that, you know, and take the ball away and make sure that we don't give it away. Awesome. Well, I think I'll be seeing you in a couple weeks.

I appreciate you. And thanks for spending the time. Oh, yeah. Thank y'all. Another podcast from some SNL late-night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smigel and Friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer.

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A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care which I'm saying. Yep, that's me, Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, my basketball and college football journey, or my career in sports media. Well, now I'm bringing all up that.

excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfilled of conversations with athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. So let's get to it. Listen to The Clifford Show on the IHeard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok podcast network on TikTok. I'm Joey Dardano.

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