The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Packers-Chiefs, Browns, year of the Coach, and where Colin was right & wrong

Episode Date: October 28, 2019

Colin discusses the Packers-Chiefs game, the reasons the Browns are a mess and why their fans will soon be obnoxious again, why this NFL season is the year of the Coach, and where he was right and wrong over the weekend. Guests include Doug Gottlieb, Trent Dilfer, and Bucky Brooks. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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He's great. I'm not disputing that. And I do like what Green Bay is doing with running backs. The story last night is Matt Moore. Why couldn't Green Bay stop him? This was not supposed to be a shootout. This was going to be Mahalms, Aaron Rogers, game of the year. Matt Moore, who hadn't started.

started in two years, was playing high school football last year, after kind of a rocky start, he got in a groove. Manmore high school football coach a year ago. He had three practices with the Chief's first team offense. He was over 50% on third down. He threw for as many yards as Aaron Rogers, 6.6 yards a pass. This was not supposed to happen. I've seen San Francisco, New Orleans and New England against quarterbacks without experience.

I saw San Francisco this weekend against a young quarterback. It was a horror movie fitting on Halloween week. I've seen New England against young or quarterbacks who aren't very good. New Orleans. Kyler Murray couldn't move the chains. Matt Moore should not have been able to do that. New Orleans, New England, and San Francisco have defense. that constantly make quarterbacks uncomfortable.

Matt Moore was completely comfortable. Green Bay does not have a great defense. They have a couple of really, really good defensive playmakers. The Smith brothers at linebacker are playmakers. And deserve all the credit in the world, and I love the acquisitions. But we got a gap here between the Niners, the Patriots, the Saints. Then there's the Packers. Let's just know Matt Moore against San Francisco off three practices would have been, you know, suffocated.

Against New England, multiple picks. Against the Saints, couldn't move the chains. He moved the ball up and down the field. After a little bit of a rocky start, you'd think that having coach high school football last year, you'd have a little rocky start. So now I've seen with Green Bay, I've seen Philadelphia in Lambo run it down their throat, Oakland get 430 yards against them, Dallas and Dack, mostly second half, but over 500 yards. And I watched Matt Moore up and down the field.

So, yes, Aaron's great, but that's not moving the conversation. We know Aaron's great. We know he can make great throws. That doesn't win your Super Bowls. You know, the great throw in the NFL is like the hole and one in a golf tournament. If you don't enter putts, keep the ball in the fairway, you lose the tournament. But everybody shows the hole in one on Friday. Okay.

We know Aaron's ridiculous. We know Aaron's talented. And it does appear that Matt LaFleur, at least emotionally, schematically is right on point with Aaron. They finally use the running backs. Like, it's a real offensive. now. It's multiple. It's fast. It's clever. It's quick. You have to defend the perimeter. And they're doing it at Devante Adams. I'm in no way knocking Aaron Rogers for that. But when I watched Green Bay last night, that defense, Oakland up and down the field, Matt Moore up and down the field, Philadelphia

takes over. That's my takeaway on that thing. And by the way, the other teams, this is a defense that's become turnover dependent. They didn't get turnovers against Philadelphia in that second half. They couldn't get the ball back for Aaron Rogers. Detroit. They didn't get turnovers. They didn't get turnovers should have lost that football game. And the teams above you in the Annabelle Green Bay, San Francisco, great coach, great defense. New England, great coach, great quarterback, great defense. Saints, great coach, great defense, great quarterback.

So the three teams in the league that have separated to me really separated from everybody else, Green Bay I can't put in that group. You can't have Matt Moore out of high school doing that stuff. Can't have it. Over 50% on third down. And that's not a great Kansas City. line. That's not. That's not the Colt Young O line. That's not Dallas's O line. All right, let's shift to this. America, get ready. Get ready. It's going to be deja vu all over again. Cleveland is two and five and is about to get really obnoxious. So I want to remind everybody that we predicted they would struggle early and then as their schedule loosened up, because Cleveland's got talent, they would beat a bunch of terrible teams. It just so happens the team Cincinnati, Miami are more terrible than I thought, and the

Steelers who they play twice over the next two months have a backup quarterback. But I want to remind you, they lost badly to Kyle Shanahan, badly to Bill Ballicheck, butchered it against Pete Carroll and Sean McVeigh. And off a by, judge a coach off a buy, off a by, Freddie Kitchens, 13 penalties, first three snaps, three turnovers, three for 12 on third down, not even sure what they were doing on fourth and 11 when they took a penalty against the really well-coached teams. They embarrass themselves. Dumb penalties, dumb mistakes.

Don't ask me what Baker Mayfield's butt fumble play was. I can't figure it out. But starting next Sunday, it's a bunch of nonsense. It's a Denver team that lost again and is selling parts. Steelers twice, backup quarterback, Miami tanking, Cincinnati, borderline, tanking twice, Arizona. And by the way, I predicted. I predicted this. I said, Cleveland is going to lose early and look bad, reel off a bunch of doubles against crappy teams with average coaches and weak quarterbacks. Well, the quarterbacks now are backups.

And I said, they're going to get a little comeuppance, they're going to play Baltimore near the end of the year, and they're going to get crushed at home. And it's working out perfectly. But what's going to happen in Cleveland, this is what happened last year. They were terrible. The schedule weekend, Baker comes in, and Baker goes at the end of the year, against, you know, bad, bad defenses. Atlanta, Cam was hurt, Carolina, Cincinnati twice, seven touchdowns, no picks. Cleveland last year comes out, they're awful. Then the schedule lightens up.

Baker throws a bunch of touchdowns against bad teams. And all of a sudden, all we heard all offseason. Super Bowl. It's deja vu all over again. This is a poorly coached team that's not very smart. When they faced McVeigh, when they faced Vrable, who I think can coach, when they face Belichick yesterday, when you start looking at the team, when they face Kyle Shanahan, they were out-coached, out-played, out-smarted, out-everything.

But it's going to get really soft and really weak. And like last year, they're going to finish with some Ws. And they're going to be outraged at all of us, media and you, that we don't get it. No, we do get it. We got it last year we didn't buy into it. We got it in the last off season. We knew they would be overhyped. And we knew they were going to struggle this year.

I'll stand by my prediction. Cleveland will not make the playoffs, but they'll be in the eight and eight, nine and seven bubble. They will, I mean, they're going to basically have three games against tanking teams, Cincinnati and Miami. and the Steelers and a backup quarterback and then Kyler Murray and a Buffalo team that's well coached but can't throw. Get ready, America.

Baker Mayfield, to his credit, admitted we're an undisciplined mess. I like that part. It's non-discipline. Guys not being focused on doing their job. It starts first and foremost with me. It's a leader. Every single down, get our guys lined up,

make sure they're set. We're paying attention. We can't use Cadence. You know, we're hurting ourselves. I appreciate that. He made a good point on Cadence. Anytime they're using Cadence, guys are jumping off sides. They're not accountable.

They're sloppy. I judge coaches off a buy. Lou Holtz is one of the great coaches in college football. He was great off a buy. Urban Meyer off a buy. Barry Alvarez at Wisconsin off a buy. Andy Reid off a buy. Sean Payton off a buy.

Bill Belichick off a buy. I watch Cleveland off a buy. New England's short week. And don't tell me the talent was that much different. Cleveland was a mess. Cleveland was a mess. First three snaps, three turnovers. They were a mess.

And that's where we're at. All right. Coming up next, right wrong, top of next hour. Chicago's got to make a move at quarterback. Nick Foles, Teddy Bridgewater, I don't care who it is. They've got to make a move. And Bill Belichick picked up his 300th win. And I want to talk about that and the San Francisco 49ers coming up.

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at least 12 hours, Vic Synex nasal spray, use as directed. Well, of all the things this year in the NFL, it's been the year of the coach. And let me explain. Belichick loses his defensive coordinator to Miami, Brian Flores. Belichick takes over the defense, and it's statistically the greatest of all time. Sean Payton loses first ballot Hall of Famer Drew Brees. Teddy Bridgewater goes 5 and O. Mike McCarthy leaves.

Oh, Matt LaFleur, what do we know? He's been terrific with Aaron Rogers. John Harbaugh takes Lamar Jackson, fully supports him, the kid who I thought was a project over a prospect, and they're going to win this division going away. And now about Cliff Kingsbury. He got fired by his alma mater. He's done a terrific job in Arizona.

Every game they should have won, they've won. It has been the year of the coach in the NFL. NFL. But Kyle Shanahan is at the top of that list, not Belichick. They destroyed a completely legitimate Carolina team yesterday. They do everything well. And they're not doing it with great talent. Jimmy Garoppolo second round. Running back Matt Breda undrafted. George Kittle, fifth round. Tevin Coleman, third round. They're missing both tackles, the Pro Bowl left tackle and the exceptional right tackle. They've had multiple injuries to their wide receivers. They had to go get Emmanuel Sanders, even he worked yesterday. You know, I said this, and Joy was here. I said,

we've all fallen in love with Sean McVay. And I said this after last year. My prediction was, before the season started, that we would go, oh, that best coach in the NFL is in the NFC West. It just happens to be Kyle Shanahan. Whereas McVeigh, smart, talented, successful, like Sean McBay a lot. His offense clearly is very dependent on a workhorse running back as far as I can tell. San Francisco is not dependent on anybody. He moved the ball with Nate Mullins' tight end, receivers. They've lost their top running back the last two years.

They lead the NFL in running percentage almost 60% of the time, even more than Baltimore. They are unbelievable. clever, they're slick. When George Kittle is not only open, but when a player is that open as a pro bowler, that is schematics. I'm looking at these numbers yesterday against Carolina. This was the shock of the day for me. Third down efficiency, 50 percent, six and a half yards a pass, six and a half yards of play, four out of five in the red zone, total domination. This is a Carolina defense that's exceptional. This is an exceptional defensive coaching staff.

There are good receivers, dominant running back. I mean, everything. Caroline's got everything. They have a backup quarterback who looked fine the entire season. So we believe every week Belichick gives you a schematic advantage. We all believe that, right? I do. So is Kyle Shanahan.

Kyle, you're watching these games yesterday. I'm five minutes in. Everything's working. against Ron Rivera, a very good defensive coach. Everything is working. It is exceptional. And here's the scary thing about San Francisco. They are young.

So it reminds me that Seattle team right before they won the Super Bowl. They're not just good. They're young. And like a young fighter, they get better fast. Here's their coach. The more games you win, the more confidence guys get. Just like the more games you lose in a row, the less confidence you get. Both can be a little bit contagious to the team.

And I think our guys, you know, we've won a lot of different ways, been in a lot of different types of games. And I think our guys, the more you do that, the more you can reassure yourself that you can pull out certain types of wins, the more you can have a team that does that stuff is something you can always go back on. And no matter what the circumstances are, you can find a way to get a win in.

51.7 and 0, young teams, I always call it the Mike Tyson quality. it's that pit bull quality. A young basketball team will have these unbelievable nights, but young teams tend to be uneven. What I like about San Francisco, they have all the upside of a young team. They play with a ton of emotion.

When they get rolling and their confidence is going, you know, it's like, whoa, whoa, watch out. They don't even know what they don't know. But they've also won several different ways. Last week in Washington, they won with defense. They've trailed in games. They've had to come behind. Pittsburgh.

Yesterday, it was steamroll, come out of the gates, and then hold on to the lead and not get too conservative. So right now in the NFL, my eyes tell me, San Francisco, maybe I'm nuts, best team in the NFL. That's what my eyes tell me. Beating different ways, winning different ways, beating different teams, and what they did against Carolina's defense, as jaw dropping. That's like, okay, we got a new team that should be favored to get to Miami in the Super Bowl.

Here's Joy with the News. No, no, no, no. This is the herd line news. Well, Deshawn Watson continues to prove he's the real deal. He threw for 279 yards and three touchdowns, and the Texans went over the Raiders. But there is one play everyone is talking about. It's the go-ahead score after he got kicked in the eye

and adjusted his helmet as he scrambled to make the throw. After the game, Watson told Peter King that he wears number four for a reason, and he thought the touchdown was a very far-like play. I don't know if we have the picture of him. after the game, but if you saw him after the game, he has a, his eye, he looks like he got done with a boxing match. Some other news coming out of this game, though, JJ Watt confirmed that he is out for the season with a torn pictorial muscle. He will have surgery this week. He said this game can be beautiful, can also be brutal, absolutely gut it. They won't be able to finish the season with my guys

and give the fans what they deserve. I truly love this game and I can't stand letting you guys down. Thank you for all the thoughts and well wishes. I'll tell you this. MVP vote today. I'm over. Deshawn Watson, today's the BP. He has now won two games this year on just literally Houdini. The Charger game and this game. He is so far and away the best player on the field. And remember, Joy, he's done this the last two years. With either horrible offensive lines or injury riddled off. Tom Brady couldn't do it. Aaron Rogers, nobody else in the – Russell Wilson is the only one I can even think of that could come close to making the plays he does with that O line. Yesterday, that O line was all beat up again.

Right. And Aaron Rod has had an amazing. throw yesterday, although I kind of suspect that he might have been trying to throw it out. I know that's sacrilegious to say, but Deshaun Watson is just, he's in a category all his own. I mean, Debo's when he said it before the draft, that he was going to be, you're passing up on Michael Jordan, and I mean, he's not quite Michael yet, but he's fun. He is, he is incredible. We showed the picture of his eye really quickly there. It's impressive what he was able to do.

That said, there it is. The Bears had a chance to beat the Chargers with a game-winning field goal yesterday. Chicago ran the clock down. Trubisky took a knee and set up a 41-yard field goal, but Eddie Pinheiro missed it. After the game, Matt Nagy was asked if he thought about trying to get closer for a shorter field goal attempt, and he insisted that that was never even a thought. I'm not even going to get into that. I have zero thought of running the ball and taking the chance of fumbling the football.

or, you know, they know you're running the football, so you lose three, four yards. So that wasn't even in our process as coaches to think about that. Throw the football? Just to try to get a little closer. Throw the football right then and there. What happens if you take a sack or there's a fumble? It was a game. That's right.

Yeah, exactly. So, no, there was zero thought of that. I'll just be brutally clear. Zero thought of throwing a football. Zero thought of running the football. You understand me? that's exactly what it was. So it's as simple as that.

Well, that's also telling me what you think of Mr. Trubisky. Oh, really, you think of your whole team, not just Trubisky. I thought a lot about this and whether we're reacting too much to him missing the field goal. Had we, you know,

had he made that field goal, would we be as critical? And I personally could not believe that he let that much time go. I was like, it's almost an entire minute. It's really funny, Joy, because there was a game.

Indianapolis yesterday did something that I, didn't like. So Jacoby Brissette was amazing late in the game. A minute and a half left and Frank Reich decided, I'm not going to try to gain extra yards. I'm going to bring Adam Venetieri on for a 50 yarder. Adam Venetieri

had missed two kicks. So in this instance, I know it was the same thing. So you've got to be careful about crushing Matt Nagy. Frank Reich did the same thing with a kicker would miss two kicks and it went through. And that ball, by the way, six more yards, it goes through. So those yards do matter. They do

matter. Absolutely. And look, like, the kicker's to make the kick. Like, there's no, there's no excuses for that. It's not, the 41-yard field goal is a makeable field goal. It's not, that's not, he needed extra yards clearly and he was in the same position he had missed a field goal earlier in the game. I just don't like that much time. And I'm with you. Like, this is what I'm saying, like Frank Reich should be criticized too just because it went through. That was a huge risk. But to come out and say, like, just come out and say, look, that's a makeable field goal. We got to make the field goal. That I can understand. But to come out and say that the reason why you didn't do is because you were afraid you were going to

make a mistake and lose the game. Like, no, I wouldn't have criticized them if they made a mistake. I certainly wouldn't have criticized Matt Nagy. I would have criticized someone who made a mistake at the end of the game. They had a third and goal earlier in the game. Like, they're just, they're telling you what they think of their quarterback. They're telling you. We just don't trust our guy.

I don't know. I just didn't like that call. Finally, the Astros turned things around this weekend and won all three games in D.C. To take a three-two lead in the World Series in game five last night, a very rowdy game five last last night. Garrett Cole pitched a gem with only one earned run and nine. strikeouts in seven innings. Houston's bats also came alive in Washington after scoring only seven runs in games one and two. The Astros put up 19 runs on the nationals in the three in the

next three games. So game six returns to Houston tomorrow and coverage begins at 730 Eastern on Fox. Yeah, Houston couldn't hit in the first couple of games. And they'd kind of struggle to hit so far in the playoffs. Now they're hitting again. And Greg Tooey from Houston bailed on them after they fell behind. Bail would not. By the way, are you one of those super? prestigious people. Now that they're winning, you're not watching, are you coming back? No, because they're going to lose tomorrow night against Strasbourg, and then they'll go to game seven.

Well, actually, we should all hope for a game seven. Chewy literally hasn't seen a Houston win here the whole series. So you literally stopped watching, Tewy? Yeah. Joey, I left them for dead. I told you. And then they suck you back in. It's that reverse jinx.

Well, you should be careful, though, because if that's how it's happening, then you might end up jinxing them. Max Scherzer did not pitch in game five with neck and back spasms and game Six pitchers are Stephen Strasberg and Justin Verlander 730. Eastern on Fox tomorrow. That'll be great. Joy with the news. Well, that's the news.

And thanks for stopping by. The Hurd-Ly News. That's interesting. Dallas was off yesterday and I actually missed Baltimore. I've had so much fun watching Baltimore. They're just the opposite of the national football league and they were off yesterday. But Doug Gottlieb is on today and he's on with us now. The Dugger Fox Sports Radio after our show here on a Monday.

Trent Dill for next hour, Colin Wright, Colin Ron. So I don't mean to be negative. I know you have a close personal relationship with Aaron Rogers, so to State Farm. But I'm watching, and my takeaway on that yesterday is, okay, I mean, when it's announced Patrick won't play on like Friday. We're all like, okay, that's going to be a blowout. And I'm like, Matt Moore was totally comfortable

and he was coaching high school football. If you're Green Bay, this morning you wake up, you're like, that shouldn't have been what we saw, right? I don't know. Look, Andy Reid is one of the great coaches in the history of the league. league. And one of the things he does best is make a quarterback look better than he is, right? Yes. Go back to Philadelphia. You're right. And all, I mean, Kevin Cobb, how much money do he make because he played for Aene Reed? He resurrected Mike Vick's career. Donovan McNabb.

Donovan. Dan McNab was an above average to above average quarterback who wasn't terribly accurate. Got him to a Super Bowl. Got him to a Super Bowl and all those consecutive NFC championship games. And the strength of the Packer defense is their pass rush and they have the greatest screen game in the NFL. So this is, what they do. You have an exceptionally bright quarterback in Matt Moore who's played forever. Yes, he was a high school quarterback coach to start the year. Yeah. But the fact is

that I kind of think you're bearing the lead. Like, dude, all Aaron Rogers needs, he doesn't need the best defense. He doesn't need the 85 bears. He doesn't need last year's bears. He just needs a competent defense. They have that. And then his talent is so obscene. Like, he wasn't throwing that ball at the corner of the end zone.

He was maybe to Jimmy Graham, maybe out of bounds. I mean, but as much as you're a few, some we should be with our praise of Deshawn Watson, gets kicked in the eye and throws a touchdown pass and beats the Raiders. That same Raiders team played on the road last week in Green Bay, how to go for Aaron Rogers.

Five touchdown passes, and he ran one in as well. But if you're sitting on the bench and you're not watching the game because your defense can't get them off the field. No, no, look, I got it. I understand. But considering where their defense had been, where it is now, and

look, defense is more about, it's not silly about gross yardage anymore. It's about third down conversion percentage. It's about red zone defense. It's about takeaways. And this defense is right there in the top 10 in those fields. Okay, you disagree with me. We talked before the show.

I think Cleveland, and I think it was fairly predictable. I said they're going to be really choppy early, and then they're going to go to Denver. And my takeaway is, Denver's a go either way game. I think Cleveland will win it. I think Denver's kind of imploding. I think that loss for dominating the game the way they did in space against the Colts and losing.

Joe Flacco rips the team after. Yeah, pretty conservative. It's over. Like, so I think Cleveland's going to go on a streak here, I win in a bunch of games. You don't necessarily agree. Well, just what leads you to believe that other than the competition appears to stink, right? They come out of a byweek and look awful. They have 13 penalties. The Cleveland Browns are a fad diet.

And even if they lose, drop 25 pounds here, okay, the fundamentals of it won't work long term, right? That's really what a fad diet does. The South Beach diet, we just is that the one we have milk shakes? It does have some fundamentals to it where you're cutting out the carbs or whatever, right? Right. But like everyone knows what you're supposed to eat, what you're supposed to do, everything

in moderation. Right. Right. Now you're cutting out the complex carbs. You drink more water. You don't drink soda. Like this stuff, you have to exercise daily. You know, bring yourself to an aerobic threshold, but you do a fad diet and you like drop 20 immediately. But it's coming back on. That's what they are. They're a poorly constructed team.

You got all these personalities and names. You don't have a good offensive line. You have an inexperienced quarterback who doesn't appear to be as talented or maybe as accurate and isn't getting the coaching that he needs. You have an inexperienced head coach who can't command the respect. You have 13 penalties coming off a by week in a game in which you're playing against the best team and the best run organization in the National Football League. You're dying to be beaten.

And there's some plays just foolish. I don't know if you saw the report on CBS, but it was fourth and 11 and they wanted to go for it. So he had his player jump off sides. Just like all of this stuff, make it's like a high school team. And you have a guy who's, frankly, not competent as a head coach. Maybe he could be a head coach of the Cincinnati Bengals who are trying to be bad this year. But the Browns are trying to be good. And they are not accomplishing it.

So I don't care what they do. But I do think that they're not going to be as good down the stretch here against the staffer schedule as their talent deems they should because they're fundamentally flawed. I will say this, their defensive line, Brady was uncomfortable. yesterday multiple times. I find New England fascinating. Kicker, gone, receiver out, another gone. Gronk retires, left tackle center, fullback, and New England keeps winning. But let's shift it to this.

So we both like Sean McVay. We think he's smart. But I watch San Francisco, and they're not dependent on anybody. Now, all teams are dependent on the quarterback. But Todd Gurley, everybody's excuses are ridiculous, right? Like, Chargers. You know, our offensive line isn't. San Francisco George Kittle fifth round.

Matt Breda undrafted. Garoppolo sat in the bench for three years. I'm watching San Francisco yesterday, Doug. Shanahan looks like the best young coach by a long shot in the league. Well, it actually shouldn't surprise us, right? He was the one who made RG3 look good. They got them to the playoffs. Then Atlanta, though their play calling was suboptimal when they're up 28 to 3,

they're up 28 to 3 on the Patriots because of his play calling. And then it was the perfect timing, right? He came into San Francisco when they had a lot of talent, didn't yet have a quarterback. And good draft picks, too. Right. And then, honestly, the Garoppolo injury last year helped them. They get Nick Bosa, who might be the best defensive player in the league. They have a ridiculous defensive line with all first round draft picks.

So this is, is he a great play caller? Yes. Has he prepared his entire life to be a head coach? Absolutely. Does he have a tremendous staff and a quality GM? Yes. But let's also remember that they basically tanked. They were bad, loaded up on draft picks.

Nailed most of them, and then got the benefit of Garapolo on a fire sale, played Garoppolo, gave a big contract, then he got hurt, so they got Bosa as well. And the only reason they got Bossa was because Arizona decided to take Kyla Murray instead of taking the best player in the draft. So there is some luck, and luck is when, what, timing and opportunity coincide? Yes. There is some luck to it. But yes, he's a marvelous coach, and that really shouldn't surprise us. 30 minutes from now, Colin right, Colin wrong.

I want to do two because the NBA season started. Doug was a tremendously gifted college basketball player, seventh and assists in the history of the sport when he retired or left or whatever guys do in college. Graduated. There you got a degree. Congratulations. Way to go.

What did you major in, by the way? Marketing. Oh, that's good. You mark yourself. School of business. Oh, look at all this stuff. Would you major in, Joy? Broadcasting.

Oh, okay. Yeah. She actually prepared for this one. I got mine because I could barely put a ball through a hoop. Okay, so let me start with this. Kyrie wanted to be the man, and Kyrie is the man. And I have questions about a small guard that gets hurt a lot being the man. If you watch what's happened in Brooklyn, Doug, he's the man, and he leaves the league in shots.

And they're one and two, and he's had the shot at the end of both losses, and he's missed. Did he make a huge mistake? In what? In Boston, leaving LeBron, then Brad Stevens, what are you seeing with the man? Look, I mean, this is not what it's going to be when Kevin Durant comes back. And I do wonder what he ultimately does to their culture, right? The reason he went there, the reason that people around the NBA loved the Nets last year was their culture, that they played for each other. But they also had their own kind of selfish point guard in DiAngelo Russell, but sometimes they would substitute Spencer Dinwiddie in.

He's been an N1 mixtape. He's made some incredible shots. Like, let's not kid ourselves. He's done some things. but will he ultimately win you a championship? I don't know. I honestly don't know if that's the focus of his career. Like I'd love to say that he was simply about winning championships,

but I kind of think in his mind, I've already won one. And so I got that. And so now I want to show that I'm the best play. He thinks he's the best player in the NBA, and he's marvelously talented. My question is, how do those cultures intercede? Because what they had last year was a team that played for each other. And what they have right now is a team that,

simply gives the ball to Kyrie and watches. And that can be really, really frustrating, especially when the ball doesn't go in. But he has the sweat equity, having won a championship, hit the big shot in game seven, and he did score 50 in his first game. It's not like he's scoring poorly. But he's getting what he wanted.

No, like, this is what you wanted. You're kind of in New York, and you get to be the man, but you're with the Nets. And I do think the Nets thing is really, really hard. I mean, they're the sixth or seventh most popular professional sports franchise in the tri-state area. Yeah. And once you get below 500 and we get into January,

people stop paying attention even if you are, Kyrie Irving. Doug Gottlieb is joining us, by the way, New York Sports Now are a mess. The Giants, the Jets, the Mets, Brooklyn, Knicks, it's a mess. One more NBA story I want to touch on. Golden State Warriors. Clay Thompson, they announce he won't play. I ran into Steph Curry's agent regularly recently. They have the worst bench in the league.

Steve Kerr was King of the Mountain, politically, big progressive opinions and dominated the world and Steve Kerr was the toast of the league. He may have one of the bottom three teams in the league right now overnight. I don't know if he has bottom three team. They had 37 points at the half against Oklahoma City and people are dancing on their grave because, like, look, they still walk in as Golden State.

They walk in with a two-time MVP. They walk in having made the last, what, five NBA finals, right? So they carry that. So they're everybody's biggest game. This is a free fall. Well, I mean, I don't know what people expected. You lost Kevin Durant, the best player in the league is gone, who helped you at both ends of the floor. You lost Clay Thompson, who's a top 10 player in the league who helped you at both ends of the floor.

So their defense is a joke. You add in DeAngel Russell. DeAngel Russell is not a winning player. People only watch box scores. The nets were better at the end of games. A lot of times, if he wasn't making shots, right, Spencer Dinwiddie is probably a better, more consistent player at both ends of the floor. And then, like, this is why Draymond is not a superstar. He's a superstar role player.

Because if you tell Draymond, hey, dude, we need you to score 20s. I can't do that. He averaged seven last year in the regular season. That's not who he is. You also, their bench, you mentioned, I mean, you lost Andreigodala, and you lost Sean Livingston. And then, and if people think this is strength in numbers before they got Kevin Durant, you forget that that team, now he had Iguidala off the bench, they had Leandro Barbosa,

and they had all these other veterans. This is just a fall. It's amazing to watch. This is what you have to do. This is a gap year for them. Clay Thompson comes back next year. They'll probably send trade DeAngelo Russell away. They'll get something back in return for DeAngelo Russell.

They'll replenish that bench. They'll see which of those young players are for real and get rid of the rest. I think it's a gap year. I don't think they make the playoffs. And I think that the big question is, how much does Steph Curry try and carry this team? Does he try and go for 40 night and does he wear himself out for his future? By the way, Doug's got a podcast on my network. It's fantastic.

with Doug Gottlieb. He does college. He does pro. A lot of NBA stuff. It's fantastic. He does the show after me, the Doug Gottlieb show on Fox Sports Radio, which, by the way, is up like 800%. You're crushing it. Good seeing you, bud, on Monday. All right, coming up, Tom Brady had a funny thought about Bill Belichick winning his 300th game. He's third all time now. And some thoughts about what Belichick has done this year. Why I think you can make an argument, it's the best year of his career. And I'm seeing this all. I'm seeing it in politics. I'm in it in football, 65, 70 years old is not a death sentence. Guys are doing their best work.

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strong and resilient. All right, we got breaking news. We got to trade. Trading deadlines tomorrow, Joy. So one thing about the NFL, the NBA does this very well. The NFL moved their trade line back a couple years ago so that teams go two and six and they just start trading players. Right. So the bottom of the league gets really ugly and the top of the league gets better. So the Jets now, seasons over, lost of the Jags. They just gave up excellent defensive lineman Leonard Williams to the New York Giants. This is rare. The Jets and the Giants have never made a trade with the Jets, I was just told.

I don't know that to be statistically true, but one of the guys said, so the Jets and the Giants make a trade. So the Jets are basically saying Robbie Anderson wide receiver, Leonard Williams. Leonard's going to be very expensive, right? And so the Jets actually have some very good defensive interior lines. line depth. Quinn and Williams, their top draft pick's a very good player. So they feel like it's one of the things about the jets I like. Their interior defensive linemen, they get rid of Leonard Williams. The Giants really, really need defensive line help. And, you know, Olivier Vernon left, not much of a pass rush. They struggled to get offenses off the field. They

couldn't get Kyler Murray off the field. Matt Stafford couldn't get him at times off the field. So the Giants say, okay, we'll take your defensive linemen. We'll pay them. He's as good as anybody in the draft. He's a good kid. He's productive. We'll do it. Now, the Jets get a third round pick this year, which they need. Joe Douglas is the new GM.

They need picks. They're paying Levian Bell, a lot of money, get some picks. They're paying CJ Mosley a lot of money. You're going to pay Jamal Adams, a lot of money. So they get a third round pick and probably a fourth round pick if the Giants re-sign Leonard Williams before the start of next year. So the Jets get a third and a fourth. Joe Douglas, new GM.

That's what they want. They want new culture, new players, and maybe a new coach. Adam Gay's coaching for his job. So Jets make a deal. Depth at defensive line. Trading deadline tomorrow. We'll give up a guy who's expensive. Giants are like, that's what we really need among the things we need.

Giants have some offensive pieces I like. They're garbage on defense. So there you go. I thought this was interesting yesterday. So Bill Belichick won his 300th game. You know, in baseball, I grew up baseball. baseball was like the sport, right? It was the national pastime and the numbers are massive.

You think Bill Belichick all these years, I'm shocked that's not more than 300 games. It feels like he's been winning for 20 years every year, right? But he won after the game and Tom Brady came up and said something pretty funny. 300 wins is pretty spectacular. He's, you know, best coach of all time and it's a privilege to play for him. For as many years as I have, he's taught me so much, you know, on and off the field. It's just been a great mentor for me.

You know, amazing to think that he coached for another place and they didn't think he was good enough. You know, and then he comes here and does a great job. Certainly hard earned, well deserved, and only better than 300 is 301. So we'll be back at it this week. You know, it's really interesting. When I hear everybody's excuses why they're losing, Philadelphia, we need Deshaun Jackson. We don't have a speed-wide receiver. We got to get another cornerback.

here. That's your chargers. You know, our offensive lines beat up. Or, you know, Rams. Our offensive lines getting old. We don't have the depth at running back. I just go, stop it. Just think about New England. Just their offense.

Just think about their offense. They lose their left tackle. They lose their center. Now, those are the two most vital positions on the offensive line. Center calls audibles. Left tackle protects Tom. Lose them both. They lose a fullback. And New England's of two teams in the league, San Francisco the other,

a lot of their offense is engineered through the fullback. They lose him. I've been using a linebacker at fullback recently. They lose a pro bowl kicker. Sort of matters in a sport where every Super Bowl, you know, New England wins, is decided by a field goal. They have a superstar wide receiver coming. A, B. Lass an hour. Get rid of him.

Could have been massive conflict. They lose Josh Gordon. Another one gets hurt. They have a first round draft picket receiver. can't get on the field. Oh yeah, they lost Gronk, Hall of Famer. And they're 8-0, and their point differential is 60 points better than everybody. Belichick loses his defensive coordinator, has to get on the headset now and call the plays. Distraction, right? It's the best defense they've ever had. I mean, they've had a dozen injuries, a first-round pick that's not playing,

a center, a left tackle, a key fullback, a kicker, two wide receivers, and their point differential, it's not even close. Yesterday, you watch them. On a short week, a short week against the team and a buy and who looked disorganized. It wasn't the Brown's first three snaps of the game, but for three straight snaps, they had a turnover. On a rainy wet day, they never do. They never have the bid mistake. I think this is as good a job as he's ever done. I think he's the smartest coach of my life, and I include Jimmy Johnson in that, the Andy Reid's, you know, all the great coaches. There is, everybody in this league has an excuse why they're not winning.

New England's got one, two, three, four, five, six. Six excuses on offense. Six reasons they should be a train wreck. And they are efficient on a short week yesterday. The herd. One more herd? The herd streams 24 hours a day seven days a week within the IHeart radio app. Search herd to listen live or on demand whenever you'd love.

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This Halloween week is The Heard. Wherever you may be and however you may be listening, we're on IHeart Radio, Fox Sports Radio, and FS1, if you're driving around Los Angeles. And you listen to this show, turn FS1 on. Our staff, we could show a couple of shots of this, did a remarkable job, creating a Halloween sort of montage here. Look at this. All sorts of things. I love holidays around here. They take them seriously.

Yes. And they do an amazing job of decorating. I look forward to it. Like this week's decorated. Thanksgiving week is decorated. Christmas. It's fun. The town I live in in Los Angeles takes Halloween seriously.

And I mean it is a part-te. It actually, I will say about all the places that I've lived, Miami gets pretty serious to because it's nice weather, so everybody can be out. Yeah. But L.A. takes it to a whole not a level. I'm going this year as the same thing I've gone for the last 24 years. A respected newsman. Oh.

A respected veteran newsman who breaks stories. I was going to guess Mr. Rogers. That too. That movie's coming out November 22nd. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. I love Mr. Rogers. And you love.

I love Tom Hanks. Yeah. All right, we do it. That's Joy Taylor. We do this every Monday, and I do it all year. I used to do it for football season that people liked it, where, you know, I have big, strong opinions, but sometimes I whiff, and I have to be called out when I whiff. So Colin right, calling wrong on a Monday.

Here we go. Where Colin was right. I said Friday. I know, I know this ex-girlfriend ruined my credit. My friends hated her, and she poured bleach in my plants. But I'm giving my ex-girlfriend to Philadelphia Eagles one more chance. I know they've burned me a million times. I like this organization too much to bail.

And I said on Friday, they're going to go to Buffalo and they're going to win convincingly. Joy was here as proof. And Buffalo was on fire. And Philadelphia knocked them over. I doubted her. But you're right. Owner, GM, quarterback, coach, I give all of them an A. This team's not built to ask Carson Wentz to throw 40 times.

They're built up front. They're emotional. They're physical. When a team organization. organizationally gets an A in the four things I care about. Owner GM coach quarterback, I can't bail on them, and I wouldn't bail on them, and they delivered for me. Eagles, thank you for my Friday prediction. Where Colin was wrong.

My blazing five was trash. I was one and four, and I was lucky to be one and four. I got a backdoor cover with the Giants. I am now 59% for the year, which is about where I've been. I went with dogs, and they were all dogs with fleas. My dogs were dogs. And it was one of those Sundays where I knew 45 minutes in, I'm like, my team stink. Why do I take the jets?

That's on me. That's not on America. I'm at 59%, which is kind of where I generally land 58, 59% on Blazing 5. Where Colin was right? Michigan beat Notre Dame. I predicted that on Thursday. I said Harbaugh can coach. He got to a Super Bowl.

I'm tired of hearing how he can't coach. Jim Harbaugh in Michigan. Yes, they can't beat Ohio State. Who's beating Ohio State except Clemson? Who's beating Ohio State? Michigan football, even with Bo Schembeckler and Lloyd Carr, won nine to nine and a half games and were sub-500 in bowl games. That's what Michigan is.

They get one or two big wins a year like this one. They lose to your Ohio State. They'll lose another game, and they finished nine wins. And right now, guess what? Michigan after this has six wins. They also play Maryland, Michigan State, and Indiana. And they're going to win those three games and then lose to Ohio State and they'll finish with nine wins. And if they win a bowl game, which I think Michigan should every other year, they'll finish with 10.

Harbaugh took over a program with six wins a year. He's got him up to nine and they're going to win nine this year. Now, I don't think they've been as good at quarterback as they should be. He deserves heat for really, really not delivering at quarterback. But can we stop it? They're not Alabama. They're not Ohio State. They're not Oklahoma.

They're not LSU. They're not USC historically. They're a very good A-minus program, and if he wins the favorite games going out, and we predicted they would beat Notre Dame, he'll finish with nine wins. Where Colin was wrong. Remember that quarterback class in 2018

where I said, Baker, Darnold, and Rosen are ready to play now. They're 16 and 37. And I said, Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson are projects more than progress. Those two are 21 and 11. What does it prove? Coaching matters in the NFL.

Buffalo and Baltimore have very good coaches. But I was thinking about it this weekend. The higher you get drafted, the worst team you get drafted too. And the real winner in this is Lamar Jackson, who went to a good owner, a good GM, a good O line, a good coach. Now, Lamar's also very coachable. And Lamar's also, listen to his critics, develop more of a passing game. but I will say this. The guys I thought were projects are winning football games,

and the guys I thought were immediate players and prospects are all a mess. Where Colin was right? Mitch Trubisky. Let's move on. This year, six games, five TDs, three picks. I got 32 starts with Mitch Trubisky. 32 NFL starts. All you need to do is watch how the Chicago Bears' offensive staff treats him.

That third in goal earlier in the game, late in the game, not willing. They just kneeled at the end of the game. They wouldn't even let him throw a roll. He's a very good athlete. They wouldn't let him roll out, throw a six-yard-out pattern to increase the kick percentage-wise to about 85, 90%. They're petrified

for him to do anything in a crucial spot. And listen, they've got wide receiver talent. They've got running back talent. Don't tell me the bears don't have offensive talent. They've got players. In fact, at wide receiver, they got a little depth. And trading deadlines,

today. Make the move. From day one, tomorrow, by the way, I said day one, I didn't like him in college. I didn't like him as a draft pick. I thought they made a big mistake on drafting him, and it's a mess in Chicago. Where Colin was wrong. Speaking of a mess, Adam Gase had a winning record with Tannahill in Miami and beat Belichick twice. The jets are a disaster. Now, I think a lot of this is ownership and the previous GM, but I watched yesterday, penalties 10. Darnold is running for his life. Sacked eight times, should have been 12, but he's still making decisions and throws he should be coached out of.

They have no running game. I mean, Levy and Bell's averaging slightly over two yards of carry. They don't have a single unit on the team except the interior of the defensive line that I like. I like their safeties and the defensive interior. They're a mess. He's awful optically at the press conference. He instills no confidence.

They're not getting better. PAT's missed, tackles missed. I mean, they had a really good opening drive, and that was it. Now, again, the offensive line's injured, and we know when the offensive line goes south outside of New England, teams go south.

But they do not look well coached, and I thought Adam Gates was the perfect elixir for Sam Darnold's rookie mistakes and rookie year. Where Colin was right? Deshaun Watson, in terms of playmaker, He's a top three quarterback of my life. Russell Wilson's also in there. He's absolutely remarkable.

And here's what I love about Deshaun Watson. Is that he's doing this the last two years. Yesterday, the Texans offensive line once again was all beat up. He is doing this with either bad offensive lines or injury plague offensive line. Remember when Dabo Sweeney said he's Michael Jordan? I don't know what the critics don't see. He's completing 69% of his throws. Don't tell me he's just an athlete.

He's completing higher than like Tom. He's in the Tom Brady category. His pass for ratings 105. What is it that people don't see? Gruden finally echoed the sentiment of his college coach, Dabo Sweeney. You know, you see Michael Jordan. You see, you know, some of the great athletic plays in any sport. You've got to tip your hat to the guy.

I mean, we had him three times. Then he makes an unbelievable throw, and the kid makes a great catch. We're not the first team he's gotten. I mean, this guy's spectacular. He wills it out of his team, and he makes something out of nothing. And I didn't love him as a thrower out of college. He's gotten better at that. I mean, man, there are, you know Cleveland could have him right now?

Not a shot at Baker. They had the number one pick they took Miles Garrett, good player, then they took Baker. They take Deshaun Watson. Can the Bears have him to? Oh, yeah, the Bears did. There's a lot of coaches. Mahomes and Watson, there's a lot of GMs in this league. Here we go.

Where Colin was wrong. You know, I defended Mike McCarthy for years with Aaron Rogers. I said he's not a bad coach. Stop telling me that Mike McCarthy is a failure. But I have to be honest, Green Bay is fast, multiple, clever. Aaron Rogers is happiest I've ever seen him. They're really doing a nice job with using the running backs. Running backs yesterday, Aaron Jones had seven catches.

The running backs had four touchdown. downs. Listen, I said Mike McCarthy were blaming him for everything. Aaron can be condescending and difficult, and I still think Aaron can be difficult. But the bottom line, you got to make Aaron Rogers happy. And I can sit here on my pedestal and say it's on Aaron, but Aaron's a great talent, and you've got to find a coach who works with him. And I didn't know if Matt LaFleur had it. He'd been a coordinator for one year, and Tennessee's offense regressed with him. But this has worked. Aaron's happy. LaFleur's been very clever. And what I like about, Lafleur and Aaron has how they communicate

in the sidelines. Face to face, mono-a-mono. They come over, they talk, they work things out. They clearly are at least generationally kind of the same guy. Young, handsome, kind of glib, funny, smart guys. It works. And McCarthy does look when you watch this.

He looks old. Where Colin was right. When the Rams drafted Cooper Cup, I said, watch out. He is going to be one of these players. You look back years later and go, who's Cooper Cup? Well, I went to the same school, Eastern Washington.

He's second in the NFL in wide receiver yards, leads the NFL in third down catches and third down yards. When Todd Gurley got hurt last year, I said, okay, that's fine, but they're still running the ball with C.J. Anderson. I said, if you go back and look at Jared Goff when Cooper Cup got hurt, that's when Jared Goff was not the same quarterback. Now, I'm not saying Todd Gurley's not great, but C.J. Anderson came in and they ran the ball fine last year.

They got to a Super Bowl, you know, with Todd Gurley not playing. But golf has never been the same when he lost Cooper Cup. He came in yesterday and was just insane against Cincinnati. He is, to me, not only the most underrated wide receiver in the league, but is it crazy to say he's a top five wide receiver? When guys are open, significantly open, On third down, some of it's scheme, some of it for a wide receiver is you can't hide him and he's still open. Where Colin was wrong.

I said Golden State would be fine. They'd be a fifth seed. They'd win a playoff series. They're officially the worst defense in league history. Listen, once Clay Thompson announced, I'm out, it's like the air was let out of the balloon. They've got five G-leaguers in the back end of that bench. I mean, it's just they lost too much human cameras. They lost Kevin Nourant.

They lost Clay Thompson. They lost the leadership and smarts of Iggy. They lost Sean Livingston. Alfonso McKinney, they moved off. DeMarcus cousins. They're bad. It's a, you know, sometimes in countries you have a lost year with the economy. This is a lost year.

They're atrocious. They're not going to be a playoff team. It's not close. People can blame Steph all they want. This is a bad, bad roster outside of the top three players. Where Colin was right. Kyrie Irving, three games, lost two of them, the bad teams, Memphis and Minnesota. So I say about Kyrie, he went there to be the man.

This is what the man looks like. This is what? He leads the NBA in points, shots, field goal attempts, this is what you wanted. And I said, be very careful about bailing on a great coach in sports. Be very careful about bailing on great coaches. Be very careful about bailing on LeBron in his prime. He's had two game winning shots, one missed, one blocked, because now when you prepare for him, you can double him.

You put your best defender on him because there's nobody else on the floor. This is exactly what I said was going to happen. He's going to get his shots. He's going to be the man. They're going to clear it out. And the culture last year, which was about team, is now about the man. And by the way, he's small, injury prone. And I guarantee you, when you rely on him this many minutes, this many shots,

watch Kyrie Irving's health deteriorate over the next two months. being with LeBron, he's like your bodyguard. Being on the Celtics, they ran nine deep. It's not going to be what you think in Brooklyn. Colin right, Colin wrong. Packed today, Trent Dilfer's around the corner. Congrats to Tiger Woods. I didn't watch, but he won a golf tournament over the weekend.

I was watching World Series. I was watching college football. I was watching NFL. I was watching NBA. LeBron looks old, by the way. Tired. It's early. It's not getting up quite like he used to.

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Astros hitting again. Greg Tooie bailed on him, and they did nothing but post-Ws. Two-E, Two-E-Tooey. He played a decade and a half in the NFL. He won a Super Bowl with the Ravens. He made a Pro Bowl. One of the smartest guys I know knows quarterbacks and football. as well as anybody and now is coaching it in Nashville, rebuilding a program there,

the Lipscomb Academy head football coach and beautiful Nashville Tennessee via the Coward Global Satellite Network, my friend Trent, Bill, for the Monday. All right, I didn't say this lightly. I gave this thought, and I said, listen, 32 starts in the NFL, about double what Sam Donald has, I do think you can make judgments. And I think, you know, Mitch Trubisky didn't love him coming into the pros,

don't love him. And I think I look at the NFC in the next nine weeks, Trent, they will be at a quarterback deficit in eight of the nine weeks. I think Chicago's coach is good in their roster is excellent. I would make a move for Teddy Bridgewater. His work is done. He's leaving New Orleans at the end of the year. You can't pay him and Drew over $15, $18 million.

Am I nuts saying trading deadlines tomorrow, Chicago, go out and get Teddy Bridgewater and don't take no for an answer? I don't think you're nuts at all, Colin. And I like that move. I totally agree with the Teddy Bridgewater play. I would also put in the Eli Manning play. I think Eli Manning, if you look at the two Super Bowls that he won with the Giants, those teams were built very similar to the Bears.

I agree with you. This roster's too good. This team's too good. How they play football fits a Teddy Bridgewater and Eli Manning. Mitch Trevisky holds this team back. And it goes back to a conversation we had a couple of weeks ago. So it's the love button syndrome that that GM fell in love with Mitch Trubisky through the draft process and overvalued him. Now he's holding on too long because Mitch is his love button and he's forever connected to him.

This happens a lot in the NFL. It's happening to the Bears and it's holding the Bears back. Let's talk about their rival, the Green Bay Packers. I look at the top three teams in the league, Saints, Niners Patriots. I get great defenses, great coaches, and very good. good quarterback play. Green Bay's defense. I've watched Matt Moore last night be very comfortable. And I'm 500 yards to Dallas, 440 to Oakland, Philadelphia controlled the clock. There's a difference between a great defense to me, Trent, and some great defensive playmakers. I think Green Bay,

I came away from that game last night saying if I'm Green Bay, I'm a little worried about the defensive side of the football. Am I hyperbolic here? Not at all. I don't think. Green Bay is the best team in their division. I think Minnesota Vikings are because of defense. I think the Vikings defense is sound, solid, tested. I think the Packers defense is Feaster Famine. It's always been that way with Petton. You go back and look at Petton's DNA as a play caller.

He'll win 8 to 15 plays a game because of scheme, but he's going to give up 6 to 10. The difference is when he gives up 6 to 10, that turns into points. As a quarterback is a really good offense, you're looking for a Feaster Famine Defense. You know it's going to be a, there's going to be difficulties at time, but you know you're going to expose where they're unsound,

and this is unsound defense at times, and the really good players are going to take advantage of it. Very much like Greg Williams. I think if you're looking for a comparable, it's a Greg Williams comparable, how he coaches defense. Yeah, they're going to blitz you, and they're going to show bravado, and they're going to, you know, want to do all these really cool, manly things on defense,

and then they're going to give up. 28 because they're going to face a really good quarterback that says, okay, keep doing this stuff, keep being unsound, and eventually I'm going to catch you where you're unsound. And I think that's exactly what the Green Bay Packers are on defense. I think that's why they're the second best team in their division right now. Wow. I judge teams off a buy. When you give a good coach extra time, not all coaches take advantage of it. We know who does. Saban, Barry Alvarez had a great record, Urban Meyer, Belichick, Reed, but we know who they are. To come off a buy and Freddie

Kitchens and the Browns offensively you know Nick Chubbs a good kid fumbled but 13 penalties I just looked at Cleveland and I thought this does not look like a team off a buy right I'm not being too critical you're not I wish we could disagree more

this segment is so much better when we disagree but we're like minded on this it looked like spitball offense to me it looked like they spent all week saying oh that's a cool play that's a cool play oh, we can trick them here, oh, we can do that, and they just threw spitballs against the wall and said, okay, let's pull that one off and try it. What's the identity of the Cleveland Browns?

You know, we talked about it a couple weeks ago and they started right in the ship a little bit. They should be a run, run action team. Run the Rock with Nick Chubb, and then play action pass off of it, let Baker Mayfield split the field in half, get it out of his hand to talent playmakers quick. We know a couple things.

We know the longer Baker holds the ball, the worse he gets. When he's on time, when he's on rhythm, he can be deadly accurate. We know they have speed guys. We know they have Twitch guys at the skill position. Let them win early. They don't need to win late.

Let them win early. Puncture the inside of the defense. With the running back, you don't have a great pass protecting offensive lines. Let them come downhill. Let them play aggressively. I don't know why they're not doing this stuff. This is remedial type stuff in the NFL. And I think it goes back to a conversation we had a long time ago.

I think Freddy Kitchens is a good guy. He's a good coach. He's out over his skis. And it's obvious right now watching the Cleveland Browns offensively and just how much they struggle. All right. Now let's get to the disagree stuff. Philadelphia. I know she ruined my credit, but I love her and I gave her another chance.

Come on. They went to Philly, baby. They're for real, Trenddilfer. They're almost. They're almost. Like they're almost good. and almost the NFL is 500, and you're overreacting. Yeah, they played well.

It was a big win for Carson Wentz. They rallied. They also had the young quarterback fumble it three times. I mean, they were given the game in a sense as well. So I think you're going to grow increasingly more frustrated if you hold on to this one too long. They're going to make you feel really good. And then they're going to break your heart because I've been on almost teams where you, you're almost there, but you're not there.

And I think that's the Philadelphia Eagles. All right. Here's another, I don't know if I'll have a disagreement, but I tease this. And I think I know where you're going. You said there's a quarterback out there that is the next Tony Romo, which is we don't watch a ton of his college, you know, you don't talk about him on draft weekend. And you wake up and you're like, oh, Lord, he's a playmaker. So Gardner Minshue's your guy.

He is, man. And I spotted this last year early in the season while I was at Washington State. I wrote an article for Athletic where I talked about it, studying all these quarterbacks coming out last year and the ones coming out this year, the Herberts and the Tua's and the Fromms

last year the guys that came out. And of everybody I studied, the purest passer, the guy with the greatest instincts, the guy that could wiggle and shake and move just enough in the pocket to create time and space, the guy that threw guys open the most often,

the guy that had gun barrel toughness, all those things is true passing instincts, passing pedigree, Gardner Minshu. I mean, he is awesome. In fact, Drew Bledso and I know another buddy of yours were texting last week, and Drew said, we were not wrong. This kid is a franchise quarterback.

He's not just a starter. He's the guy you can build long-term around if you're the Jacksonville Jaguars. He's Tony Romo. Tony Romo was a, sneaky late round pick. Nobody was sure. Only Peyton and Parcells really believed in them. They knew it was going to take time. Gardner's come on even quicker than Tony Romo. Look at Tony Romo's career. A great, great franchise career for the Dallas Cowboys.

I think the Jacksonville Jaguars have the same thing in Gardner Minshu. By the way, Nick Foles, Chicago Bears, Nick Foles make a call. That's another one. Yeah. I mean, Chicago right now, looks like Gardner Minshue was the guy. He was better than Donald yesterday. No question. Okay. Now let's get back to something. we'll agree on. Take our audience back to Deshawn Watson. I mean, Trent, it's absurd. I mean, he's doing this. He's completing 70% of his throws, 105 passer rating with a bad O line or a beat O line. And you saw him, when did you see him when he was 16 or 17? 16 years old. And like we said on the show a couple weeks ago, you can't truly appreciate him until you spend a lot of time

around him. And that's why Davo said what he said about him being Michael Jordan when he left Clemson. And here's the scary thing, Colin, he's only going to get better because they're only going to get better at the offensive line. Bill O'Brien's only going to grow the offense out a little bit more. They're only going to evolve as a football team. And Deshaun's just beginning to tap into how good he can be. He's just now on the last call at 16 starts really getting comfortable with a full field throw catalog. You know, the second layer two balls, the throwing guys open on the boundary, the little flick of the wrist underneath stuff. I mean, he

never really developed that at Clemson and now he's starting to develop that entire throw catalog. I think you got to start making the Aaron Rogers comparison to Sean Watson. Aaron had three years to sit there and watch Brett. He came on early on. I remember you not being a buyer early on

with Aaron. He had to convince you in Bristol, give him a couple years, and then he becomes one of the elite players in the NFL. I think Deshawn's in that period right now where you can see it coming, but it's going to be a Patrick Mahomes, Deshawn Watson discussion for the premier player in the NFL for maybe the next, well, I don't know, five, seven, ten years. Good stuff. Trent Dillfer, love him,

Lipscomb Academy head football coach, a Super Bowl, a pro bowl 15 years, knows this stuff, straightens me out when I get wrong. How about that? We got another Tony Romo. He's down in North Florida and Jacksonville. How about that? Trent, great seeing you. Thanks, buddy. You bet it. He was fun yesterday. He's just, you know what I like about it? He reminds me his body a little bit.

There's a little Baker Mayfield, a little thinner, but he kind of run around guy. He kind of been making stuff happen, guy. The difference is, I think Minschus' judgment is a little better. It feels not like he's panicking. Baker feels like he's bailing on the play and trying to make something out of absolutely nothing where Mnchu feels more under control

and is giving himself space. Yeah. Joy with the news. No, no, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. Both Browns made a lot of mistakes in their loss of the Patriots yesterday to turn the ball over three times and committed 13 penalties throughout the day. After the game, Freddie Kitchens pointed out to those two things is why his team didn't put together a better fight against the undefeated Patriots. It's very evident that that's what's getting us beat is turnovers and penalties.

That's it. Turnovers and penalties. But I told our guys how they win is they don't beat themselves. And we came in and beat ourselves. Everybody in the locker room understands what needs to change. Everybody's got to make a commitment to changing and getting that done. He is right about that. The Patriots do not beat themselves.

They are not the ones that make the mistakes at the end of the games. They don't do, they don't, they just don't, they don't make mistakes. They're going to play their game and they're going to take advantage of the mistakes that you made. That's that their defense is incredible. You know, in the history of the NFL, Joy, there was always a stat that meant nothing. Fumbles. It was always considered random. Some years you lose them, some years you don't.

To show you how well New England is coach, Joy, they're the only team in my life that has obliterated that stat. They don't fumble. That yesterday was a messy game. It's always, even Vegas odds makers always say, you can't come out and say this team, they've recovered nine fumbles this year. It's kind of a happenstance. Like it's just. Well, they're not all created equal. That's right.

What you do with turnovers is really what matters. And that's what he's talking about. The Patriots make you pay for your mistakes, where another team that is less experienced or less disciplines may, you know, be excited to get a fumble recovery or an interception. But what you do with that, do points come out of it? Does it change the momentum of the game? That's what you feel like.

Every time you have a turnover and make a mistake against the patience, it's like you can't afford to do that. And also, Odell went through with his word and gave Brady the custom clear. This is the picture that is circling the Internet. Everywhere Baker can be seen in the background there, not looking too pleased with the interaction between Brady and O'Dowell. Look, I don't like to read too much into pictures. I thought that was a fake picture.

That's a real picture. I thought that was fake. I saw it on the Internet last night. I thought this was a fake. Yeah, he gave his custom goat cleats to Brady after the game. And he said that's what he was going to do. I didn't love the timing of it. Baker's there to look at it?

I mean, after a loss like that, is that really even the appropriate place to do that? No. And look, I don't want to pick everything apart with it because I get Odell and I get the whole thing, but it's just, I don't know. I'm kind of old school when it comes to that. Like, after a loss, you say hello, like, you shake hands, you know what I mean?

Like, say hello to your friends. And then you live in your loss. Like, I'm the not talking on the bus on the way home kind of person. I don't do losing very well. So I don't know, maybe that's just me. Drew Brees returned from his thumb injury against the Cardinal Sunday and was as dominant as ever in the 31 to 9 win. He threw for 373 yards and three touchdowns to lead the Saints to their sixth straight victory. His goal after having surgery was always to return this week.

And after the game, he said he was grateful to be back on the field. I definitely had some butterflies, maybe a little more than usual. I think a lot of it was excitement, you know. And then as game time approach, you know, that just turned. into gratitude, just grateful for the opportunity to get back out there again. I'm grateful for this team and grateful for just this moment in being how I have this moment. No matter how this Saints season turns out, this has been a fun season so far for the Saints. Despite this injury, like having Teddy Bridgewater step right in, go undefeated.

You feel great for Teddy Bridgewater being able to go out there and showcase what he can still do. So, you know, he's going to have a starting job next year. which is great. Drew Brees comes back a week earlier than I think most people, certainly myself, thought he should. And Arizona, let's not bang on Arizona. Arizona, last three weeks, had played terrific football, at least in spaces. They couldn't.

No, they weren't easy out. No, they're a tough out. They do a bunch of new stuff. Breeze looked great. And like you said earlier, they're at the top of the best teams in the NFL all around. So exciting win for them yesterday. Finally, two big losses shook up the college football rankings this weekend. was stunned by unranked Kansas State, 48 to 41, dropped from fifth to 10th in the 8 people.

Yeah. And as you predicted, Notre Dame was completely outmatched by Michigan, losing 45 to 14. They fell out of the top 10 to number 16. Boy, Michigan ran the ball, just pounded the run. Notre Dame never even looked like they were in it. Not even in that game, Joey. Yeah, backup quarterback Mac Jones kept Alabama undefeated into his absence. But LSU jumped to the top spot after a big win over Auburn.

You know, I've got to tell you something. I think Ohio State's the best team I've seen. Better than LSU? You know what? I just, okay, I'll give you my thing on LSU. So Auburn had 15 penalties, could not move the ball, and had a freshman quarterback. And you won by a field goal.

LSU was so much better than Auburn offensively and won by a field goal at home. Auburn was a mess offensively. I don't, I think Ohio... Auburn was a top 10 team. I mean, well, I mean, defensively. But offensively, they can't pass. pass, I think LSU, I think Alabama's going to beat him and beat them convincingly.

You think Alabama's going to beat LSU convincingly? With the backup quarterback. Yep. Well, they both have buys next week and then they play each other on November 9th. Now, it's two out for sure. Is it too out for sure? Well, we don't know right now. They have a buy, so we'll probably know more in about a week.

If two of plays, Bama rolls them. I watched the entire Auburn LSU game. They snuck by Auburn. I mean, it is in Tuscaloo. Yeah, two weeks to prepare, John, good point. I get two weeks or drawn prep for two weeks or saving prep for two weeks. You can't have 15 penalties on the road, can't complete a pass and lose only by three, and tell me LSU's the best team in college football.

Either way, it's going to be a must-watch game. Yep, I like Ohio State and Penn State, by the way. It's good. Joy with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Heard Line News. You've heard of the Ten Commandments. Today we're going to unveil the 10 abandonments.

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20% off GQ calls it perfection. All right, so we're halfway through the NFL season. We're halfway through. And I don't think it's just about record. I think there's teams that, you know, like Cleveland had a brutal schedule to start, but I think their schedule gets really easy. So I do not think the Cleveland Brown season is over. I think they're going to go win a bunch of games in the second half

and get in that 8 and 8, 9, and 7 wild card discussion. They do have to beat Denver this weekend, and they have to beat Buffalo in two weeks. Those are not easy games. At Denver and Buffalo at home, I think they're going to go 2 and O in those games, or at least one in one, and then they peel it off. So I don't think the Cleveland Brown season is over.

It'll be fools gold at the end, but it's not over. The Chargers are getting healthier. Look at the Chargers schedule. They won yesterday in Chicago. A lot of people thought that was an L. They turned that to a W. So I don't think the Chargers season is over, even though the Chargers are three and five.

I look at their upcoming games. They're getting healthier. But, you know, you've heard of the Ten Commandments. There's a third of the league. Let's just call them the Ten Abandments. We're abandoning these teams. We're done talking about them, including the Steelers that play tonight. In the AFC, Jets and Dolphins, one's tanking and now two are tanking.

The Jets traded Leonard Williams today. They're out of the competition business. Pittsburgh, backup quarterback, two and four. Cleveland's got more good players. Baltimore's a better team. Cincinnati, 0 and 8, Denver, it's over. NFC, Giants, Redskins, Falcons, Bucks, and the Chicago Bears. Now, you're looking at it and saying, whoa, wait, Chicago Bears are only three and four.

I'm not saying mathematically eliminated. one team of my 10 abandments, Chicago can get back in if they make a move in the next 24 hours at the trading deadline. Nick Foles is out there. Eli Manning is out there. I would do Teddy Bridgewater. Teddy Bridgewater is absolutely an NFL starting quarterback. And if you look at Minnesota and Green Bay's defenses and Detroit's Matt Patricia, you've got to have an efficient thrower of the football.

Teddy Bridgewater is that. Remember, Drew Breeze's injury was a fluke. Hand on the helmet. It was not a hamstring. It was not a back. It was not a neck. It's over. Drew's back. Look great. Playing the rest of the year. Teddy's contract runs out. Saints can't pay

Drew Breeze 25 and Teddy Bridgewater 16. You can't pay $40 million at quarterback. They're moving off Teddy Bridgewater. So Chicago, call New Orleans. Don't take for an answer. Secondly, you may call Jacksonville now with Gardner

Minchew winning and get Nick Foles. The Bears have wide receiver depth and defensive line depth. They don't have a lot of good picks this draft, but the following draft, they got a first round or second round. They got their picks, and they have depth on the wide receiver and defensive line front.

You can't pun on the season. I went this morning and I looked at the next nine game Chicago plays. Now think about this. Here's the next nine game Chicago plays. Eight of nine games, they're at a dramatic quarterback deficit. Carson Wentz, Matt Stafford, Jared Goff, Daniel Jones, I think Daniel and Trubisky are pretty even. Matt Stafford, Dak, Aaron Rogers, Mahalm, Kirk Cousins. And some of those team have

great defenses. So eight of nine weeks, Chicago, you are at a quarterback deficit before that game starts. Admit you whiffed. You whiffed on Trubisky. You whiffed. You whiffed. It's a It's okay. You whiffed. But you can't punt on this season. You got too many good players. You have a good GM, good front office, good head coach. And this is a division in which Minnesota can kind of get tight in primetime games.

You got a chance to play Minnesota again. And Green Bay's defense is good. It's not overwhelming like San Francisco, New Orleans, or New England. Or even Carolina's defense is better, I think, than Green Bay's top to bottom. them. So the Ten Commandments, these are the ten abandments. I think Chicago can pull themselves out with a trade. It should be noted that the teams are the Jets, Dolphins, Steelers, Broncos, Bengals, Giants, Atlanta, Tampa, Washington, Chicago. Season's over.

Chicago can move off that list. Even if Pittsburgh wins tonight, forget it. Baltimore is winning that division, and Cleveland's going to beat you at least once, probably twice the rest of the way. by the way, go further than ever. Discover it Miles card. They match the miles. You earn your first year. 35 can become 70,000 miles.

Discover.com slash travel. Discover match for new card members only. I will say this. Anybody watch Philadelphia? Philadelphia has been looking for an identity all year. And I said Friday. They're going to go to Buffalo and they're going to win and they're going to win convincingly and they did.

NFL teams. Tom Brady's been saying this about the Patriots. all year. We don't have an identity. We don't run it particularly well. We don't throw the ball down the field. What are we? Tom Brady's word about New England. We don't have an identity offensively, defensively we do. Philadelphia found their identity. Part of it is the weather forced them to run the football. But they're also a very emotional team. Orlando Scandrick, they cut him. He came on our show last week and he got everybody fired up in Philadelphia. He ripped the team Orlando Scandrick on our show Friday. Remember this? When you have a job to do and you don't do it and you know

that it's supposed to be done. What's the other reason that you could have not done it? I mean, you can just look at the Minnesota game. I mean, we're playing half coverage. You know, he's not over the top. We get beat for a 70-yard touchdown by Diggs, and it's just, oh, it's okay, Jinks. You know, it happened.

You know, it's okay. You're a good player. You've been a good player. You can do it. It's okay. It's okay, gets you eight and eight. Some cases, seven and nine. So Orlando Scandrick

ripped Malcon Jenkins for the game. the Eagles. Well, Jenkins' teammates supported him. Jenkins came out and ripped Scandrick, but what it proved is Philadelphia got pissed. And this, like the Steelers, is a very emotional football organization. They love

their NFL in Philadelphia. And yesterday, Philadelphia played emotional football, galvanized football, and found their identity. In the two games, Philly has been great. At Green Bay and at Buffalo, pound the football. Carson

Wentz throws on play action to big tight-end targets, that's what they are. They found their identity. Now, the weather may have forced them to run the football, but Tom Brady's like, we can't figure out our identity. It took Philadelphia a while to find it. They found it. Run the football, play with emotion,

play action to those big, tight-end targets. This is what Philadelphia can do. This, it took them a while, it took them half the year. Philadelphia, the team I like, the girlfriend that burned me and ruined my credit. I went back in for one more date, those droopy, beautiful brown eyes, reeled me in and paid off an hour three next. One more herd? The herd streams 24 hours a day, seven days a week within the IHeart radio app.

Search herd to listen live or on demand whenever you'd like. Guys, stop using your girlfriend shampoo. Get your own. Dub men plus care available at Walmart. Bucky Brooks played in the NFL. Second round picked by Buffalo, then was a scout. For Seattle and Carolina help build those rosters. Okay. So let's talk about this. You don't even need to mention the player, but even you had a high round whiff before. And we don't need to mention the kid's name, but you just told me during the break.

There was a guy in the first round you picked in one of your spots, and you knew early. It's not going to work. And I look at Mitch Trubisky. I'm 32 starts in, Bucky. Bucky Brooks joining us. just admit it. It happens. Belichick has whiffed a lot.

Remember Chad Jackson, the receiver from Florida, first rounder? Does Chicago have to go out and say, Teddy Bridgewater, Nick Foles, one of you guys. We're not taking no for an answer. They have to do something with the quarterback because what is going to happen if Mitchell Jibisky and you're trying to play around him, and they did a great job of playing around him last year, he even earned Pro Bowl honors because Matt Nagy was so good at playing around him with the trickery. When now we're in year two.

And then you can't trust the quarterback because they had situations where if you trust your franchise quarterback, you call plays to put the ball in his hands and you trust that he's going to make the play. Just look at what Deshaun Watson did with the Houston Texans. The Chicago Bears don't feel that way about Mitch and Chubisky. So what they have to do is they have to make a hard decision. They have to make the decision like he is not going to get much better. This is what he is.

If we want to get beyond where we got last year, we have to get a better quarterback. And that means getting a veteran quarterback. You talked about trading for Teddy Bridgewater, Nick Foles, or going back in the draft next year and drafting another one. But they have to be honest when it comes to the decision-making. Right now, Mr. Chubisky is one of the worst starting quarterbacks in the National Football League,

and they will not advance to the playoffs or beyond if he is their starting quarterback. Minnesota Green Bay has Minnesota's defensive roster is one of the top five in the league. So that's the thing also in this division. It's not a division like, you know, where it's a mass and you could sneak your way. Next nine weeks, they'll be at a quarterback deficit in eight of the nine. The only time they're not, Daniel Jones, who I think with Trubisky at this point, confidence, abilities, you know, I'm not going to say either one's decidedly better. But I think DAC is, was one of the weaker ones they face, and DAC is decidedly better than Mitch Trubisky. So I think you have to make a move or punt the season, and I don't think you should punt the season.

Okay, so let me ask you about this. So we all know Kyle Shanahan's good coach, all right? That goes without saying. But I said before the season started, I like McVeigh a lot. But I don't think anybody can dominate this division because of Pete Carroll, Russell Wilson, Sean McVeigh, Shanahan Garapolo. I look at the Rams now. And then I watch the Niners. The Niners are not dependent on any one thing offensively.

I feel like this girly thing is holding the Rams back. that telling me that McVeigh's system is running back dependent. He doesn't have it, and it's a very limited offense without it. No, I don't think it's necessarily Ty Gurley doesn't have it. He's limited because Gurley is not playing the way that he's played the previous two years. I will say this, having talked to defensive coaches that defended the Rams the first two years, McVeigh was there. He did a great job of pre-snap motions, shifting, and bringing the fly.

sweep action, the deception to create the running game. The thing that he got away from, he did the motion, but he's not giving the ball to everybody like he was giving it before. Cooper Cup, Brandon Cooks, Robert Woods, all with law carries. When those guys touch the ball, now on defense, you legitimately have to defend the entire your field because anybody and everybody can touch the ball. He has to get back to that. But what I will say is, I'm encouraged by the way they played the last couple weeks.

when they don't turn the ball over, they are still a very, very good team. A team that can be any team in the league. It is all about managing the game and not turning it open. But let's take a look at San Francisco's highlights from yesterday. That's different. I see dynamic players everywhere. And by the way, this team's 25 years old.

A lot of these guys aren't on the second contract. Young teams tend to not get hurt as much. I mean, what did you see? This was the shock of the day for me. Dominant performance. dominant performance on both sides of the ball. The 49ers have the recipe to be a championship team. They can run the ball at any point in the game and dominate it.

This is the third game where they've had 200 rushing yards. You typically don't see that in the National Football League. They can do it with any running back on their roster. Coleman, Brita, Mossert, all those guys can run. Defensively, you're seeing that investing in the defensive line, all those first-round picks. They have five first-round picks playing within their role. rotation and all of them show up.

Look, we saw Nick Bosa have his game yesterday. They can do it on defense and they have some championship pedigree with Richard Sherman and the like. The only question mark with the 49ers is the quarterback. Jimmy Garapolo is the question mark. For as good as they've been running the ball, he hasn't been as dominant as you thought he would be for a guy that is viewed as a franchise quarterback. We're seeing nine touchdowns, seven interceptions.

We're seeing the giveaways. He is the one guy that hasn't played up to the standard. And so if they're going to be a championship team, he is going to have to win a couple games on the strength of his right arm. And we haven't seen him consistently play at that level. How he finishes down the stretch will determine how far the 49 is going to playoffs. Okay, so let's shift to the Cleveland Browns. I judge teams off of biweeks coaches.

And I don't need to go into it again. We all know my audience knows. If you give a great CEO an extra week to prepare for a board meeting, they're sharper. An average CEO wastes his time. Freddie Kitchens off a buy. 13 penalties. Forget the turnovers for a second. 13 penalties.

Situationally, again, not good. You know, you just took over a high school coaching job. Listen, I like a lot about Freddie Kitchens. Is it possible? Listen, you went from a position coach to a head coach too quick. John Dorsey moved him about a job and a half ahead of where he's at as a coach, and he's kind of making it up as he goes. Well, look, it's tough.

And I'll tell you, from my own experience as a coach, there's a lot that you don't know when you inherit a team and you take over as the head coach. And a lot of it is trying to figure it out as it comes. I think for Freddie Kitchens, he has the added responsibility of also being the offensive play caller. And it's different being the offensive coordinator and the head coach. Because when you're an offensive coordinator, you're just worried about one side of the ball. When you're the head coach, you have to worry about the entire team and how

that goes. You got to manage the coaches. You have to manage the players. You got to make sure that the coaches are taking the vision that you've told them and passing it on to the players and then holding them accountable to that style of play that you want to see on the field. And I think Freddie Kitchens is, I want to say he's overwhelmed, but I think he's just kind of shocked at, I guess just how much is on his plate. But to his point, I think he'll get better. And I think the Browns have to be patient enough to let him grow into the job. So you wouldn't fire him.

Absolutely not. I wouldn't fire him. He has to grow into the job. The difference with Cleveland, Cleveland is under the scope because their quarterback attracts a lot of attention and because OBJ attracts a lot of attention. If this was a job where he was just kind of doing his deal in Cincinnati, like Zach Taylor, who is also overwhelmed, we wouldn't talk about it. Because it's a bigger stage because of the stars that are on this team,

that is why we're seeing all of his flaws kind of play out. But if I'm John Dorsey, I grow with him because I think he has the ingredients to eventually be a really good head coach. Listen, I watch San Francisco's defense. It overwhelms people. I watched New Orleans yesterday. Overwhelmed Kyler Murray. I watched New England's defense.

Overwhelmed players. Green Bay's defense is better. Doesn't physically jump off the television set, Bucky. No, it doesn't. It doesn't. Here's what I would say about the Green Bay Packers. The Green Bay Packers are a legitimate contender. Quarterback is playing well, and I'm saying this.

Matt LaFleur's offense works. What we're seeing from the Packers' offense is something that we really haven't seen. He's using the running backs in a passing game. Aaron Jones, Jamal Williams, catching passes. They're making you defend the entire field. Defensively, this team is opportunistic, but not dominant. Okay, that's key. Opportunity.

When they didn't get a turnover, second half against Philadelphia. They got pushed around. Right. They are a team that plays for the turnover. They need turnovers to win games. They're not a team that can go toe to toe in these heavyweight matches, Saints, 49ers, and win those games.

Because I don't know if they can physically stop the running game consistently. I don't think they can't. And I don't know if they can deal with the dynamic offense that the Saints present. So Mike Petten's, his task, his responsibility, the next four or five weeks, he has to get this team. to playing at a dominant level where they can play straight up without turnovers. Can they win games by stopping to run? On third down, stop. Stop people.

Without turnovers. That's what the dominant defenses are measured on. Hey, if we can't get turnovers, we still can get off to field. Can they do that? Yeah, Detroit, they couldn't do that. Philadelphia, they couldn't do that. And those are games. One, they're overwhelmed and one they should have lost.

Bucky Brooks joining us, former defensive back. Also a scout built teams. Carolina, Seattle is joining us. Is it fair to say? You know, one of the things I love about the new NFL is here's what doesn't work. An old unathletic quarterback, Eli Manning, Philip Rivers, and a bad O line. It no longer works. And I think offensive line play is atrocious in the league, as bad as I've ever seen it.

I never talked about offensive line. My first 20 years doing this job. So I think we have something going on, Bucky, where offensive line play has deteriorated more than any unit due to the CBC.B. BBA less practice time. Right. O lines need practice. It's a technique position. Yes.

And we don't have it. That's not going to change. It's bad O-lines. This is why I think you have to get quarterbacks who can move. Because I still don't think Baltimore's O-line is great. When I start looking at the way the game is changing, can we now just admit Lamar Jackson is the best quarterback of that class? Again, not the best thrower.

But if you look at the spacing, the rules, and the new collective bargaining, he is built for this football. He is. And I will say this about Lamar Jackson, the Baltimore Ravens. I absolutely believe he is playing the best of all of those quarterbacks that were taken in that class. I think it's evident in the way that he plays, the production, the wins, all those things go in his favor. But the other thing that you've seen from the Baltimore Ravens, they went all in on the Lamar Jackson experience. Yes. They made sure they drafted people that complimented him.

They elevated an offensive coordinator that knows how to coach that style of quarterback because he did it before with Colin Kaepernick and Tyrod Taylor. So everything that you see from the Baltimore Ravens offensively is done with number eight in mind. Yes. And because of that, he's been successful. They haven't asked him to be something that he's not. Lamar Jackson is a terrific athlete, a terrific playmaker with the ball in his hands. He is a guy that can hurt you throwing the ball, but he's not a polished pocket passer. So they'll live with some of the ground balls, some of the short hops,

because he's going to make many more plays than he gives up. The trick is how long does that last? And so if you're saying that Cam Newton is the example. Cam Newton played for 10 years. Okay, if you're a franchise and you know that you can get 10 years of quality play, are you okay with that? We are spoiled by the fact that Tom Brady's played 20 years. We're seeing Ann Rogers and Phillip Rivers play 15, 16, 17 years.

but really, quarterbacks weren't expected to play more than 10 years in the past. If you're going to have one of these athletic quarterbacks, you just have to know. We'll get them and draft them high. We may get a second contract, but beyond that,

we may have to look for another one because athletically, you just can't play for a decade plus in this league. Good stuff. Bucky Brooks played, scouted, NFL network, and now a high school football coach. That's at Granada High. Granada Hills High School.

John is always high school. And he texts you. now. He does. Every new idea. Only after wins. Good seeing him, man. Joy with the news. No, no, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. Oh, Deshawn Watson continuing to prove he's the real deal. He threw for 279 yards and three touchdowns and the Texans win over the Raiders. But the one play everyone is talking about is the go-ahead score after he got kicked in the eye and adjusted his helmet as he scrambled to make the throw. After the game, Watson told Peter King that he wears number four,

a reason and he thought that the touchdown was a Favre like play. Does it remind you Favre? It reminds me to Deshawn Watson. I'm not sure. God. I don't think Farrv when I see him. He's got, by the way, did the same thing against the Chargers. This is the second time I've seen that play.

He's just absurd. He's, he is absurd. And he's, he kind of remains in that sort of limbo space. And I think it's mostly due to his offensive line being so bad that, you know, he's, he's been banked up a lot and he's had to make these spectacular plays. I haven't been able to get over the hump in the playoffs. This is a team that should be really worried about, especially if they get their offensive line squared away.

He had the after the game. Well, really, you could see it right after the play, how bad his eye was. Yeah. But after the game, they had them all bandaged up. I think we have a picture of it. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, look how Reddit is.

He looks like he just walked out of a boxing ring. I would not show up to work if I looked like that. And he made the play of the game, play the season. Well, his job requires a little more physicality. So, listen, I'm very physical broadcaster. This is the money right here for you. Money maker right here. You want to avoid getting kicked in the face.

Yes. JJ Watt, though, also confirmed he's out for the season with a torn pictorial muscle. So that is bad news for the Texans. He tweeted this game can be beautiful, but it can also be brutal. Absolutely gutted that it won't be able to finish the season with my guys and give the fans what they deserve. I truly love this game and can't send letting you guys down. Thanks for all the thoughts and well wishes. Kind of holding out to wait and see if he was going to be out for the rest of the season.

It's super disappointing for JJ Watt. obviously he has a long injury history. So we'll see what happens there. So the Bears had a chance to beat the Chargers with a game-winning field goal yesterday. It kind of almost felt like, you know, I'm watching the end of the game. I'm like, yeah, I think the Chargers are going to lose this game, right? Like, they're the Chargers. Oh, I felt, I think people, I think the Chargers felt that was a rough.

You don't take L.A. teams in November to Chicago in that defense. I mean, I stayed off that in the Blazing Five. I'm like, this could be man overboard. Right. Bad offensive line for the Chargers. Well, it didn't go that way. Chicago ran down the clock, and Chubisky took a knee to set up a 41-yard field goal, makeable field goal, but Eddie Pinniero missed it.

And after the game, Matt Nagy was asked if he thought about trying to get closer for a shorter field goal attempt, and he insisted that was never even a thought. I'm not even going to get into that. I have zero thought of running the ball and have taken the chance of fumbling the football. Or, you know, they know you're running the football, so you lose three, four yards. So that wasn't even in our performance. process as coaches to think about that. Throw the football? Just to try to get a little closer.

Throw the football right then and there. What happens if you take a sack or there's a fumble? It was a game. That's right. Yeah, exactly. So, no, there was zero thought of that. I'll just be brutally clear. Zero thought of throwing a football. Zero thought of running the football.

You understand me? That's exactly what it was. So it's as simple as that. Six yards, though. Tribisky's a rollout guy. You roll out to six yards. I mean, how many times have we seen this? Tribisky does one thing well.

Rolls right. Roll it complete, six yards. That field goal, which, by the way, moves left, is in. They win the game. I just, I mean, 41 yards are still, I mean, it's a makeable field goal. You should be able to make that, but it's still pretty far. They had enough time. Goulet's like you can't call a pass.

You can't call a pass with Trubisky. You cannot. 50-50 throws a pay. You cannot roll out and throw a six-yard sideline route. You can't do that? I can't, but neither can tributtiski. But I mean, if you feel like he can't do that, then you got the wrong guy.

You have your answer. Like, they could have run another play. They had more than enough time to try and get just a few more yards to make that a more makeable field goal. I'm getting all this pushback. You can't trade for Bridgewater. How do you not? Are you punting on the season? I mean, if the Saints are planning on keeping Bridgewater for the rest of the season just as a security situation, that makes sense.

Call Jacksonville and get fools. You have to do something. I mean, if you can't trust him to throw the ball one more time with that much time on the clock. And look, like you said, Frank Gregg did the same thing. He made the field goal. We're not talking about it. But that's how it goes. If you miss it, then it looks like the wrong decision.

And I didn't really feel comfortable with them doing that anyway. He missed two of the five field goals attempts against the Chargers. Before that, he only missed one of ten field goals and missed no extra points entering the game. But give him a little extra yardage. Like, give him a better chance of making it, especially at the end of the game. Finally, the Astros turn things around this weekend. all three games in D.C. to take a 3-2 lead in the World Series. In game five last night, Garrett Cole pitched a gem with only one earned run and nine strikeouts through seven innings.

And Houston's bats finally came alive in Washington after scoring only seven runs in games one and two. The Astros put up 19 total runs in games three, four, and five, while the Nats only scored three. So game six returns to Houston tomorrow and coverage begins at 7.30 Eastern on Fox. Boy, this thing dried up really quick for the Nats. It's amazing. It took a turn. It took a dramatic turn for sure. Game six pitches are Steven Strasberg and Justin Berlander. We'll be a great game tomorrow in Houston, 730 Eastern on Fox.

All right, good stuff. Joy with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Hurd Line News. By the way, I've watched every college football team two or three times. There's three great teams in college football. Bama when they get the quarterback back, Ohio State and Clemson.

You can have everybody else. No, LSU? No, don't buy it. I've watched the LSU this weekend. You were so high on LSU like two weeks ago. Not anymore. That Auburn game, I sat there. Auburn had 15 penalties on the road, freshman quarterback,

and it comes down to a three-point game. LSU had a first and goal at a four, moved to a yard and a half. I'm done with LSU. There's no way. You give Nick Sabin two weeks and you give Ed Orgeron two weeks. Bama's going to beat LSU convincingly. Even with the backup quarterback. Yep.

Does that say anything about Tua? We'll see. Ohio State's legit. Clemson's fine. Bama's really good. And my guess is two is ready to play. And if two is ready to play, they'll blow on LSU. But I watched LSU the entire game this week. And I'm like, they don't take it. Joe Burrell's done a great job for them. That defense gives up big plays. They're not opportunistic enough on offense. Bama's going to blow them out. Coming up next, our three-word game. Every NFL game can be explained in three words. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific.

Here's fake news. Joe Flacco has a herniated disc. Yeah, right. He ripped the Denver coaching staff after they lost to Indianapolis. Flacco ripped him. He's out for the game at home against Cleveland. They'll start Brandon Allen against the Browns. So Cleveland's going to win the game. They're going to route Denver. Brandon Allen's never taken an NFL snap. So Joe Flacco ripped the coaching staff about their conservative nature. Vic Fangio is a very conservative head coach.

Flacco suddenly, a guy that doesn't get hurt much, I thought, has got a herniated disc. That quarterback situation in Denver is just... Come on. That's an endless void. Doesn't that seem fishy? It's interesting timing. I'll give it that. I don't know if I would go as far as fake news, but... It feels fishy to me. It's interesting timing, but they just, that situation is just...

Well, Browns are going to win by 30. I mean, Browns will crush them. I like the Browns defensive. front. All right, we call it a three-word game on Monday. Every NFL game dating back to Thursday night's game described in three words. Here we go. Redskins Vikings, not convinced yet. All right. Listen, last year, Minnesota with the same roster and players was one and six against playoff teams. The only team above 500 they played this year, Green Bay, they lost. They got to go to Kansas City. They got to go to Dallas. They got to go to Seattle.

They're not nearly as scary when you put them in primetime games. I don't buy them yet. Seahawks Falcons over at half. 24-0.0. 4-0.5. Boy, Atlanta is the slowest starting team in the NFL. They just can't get it together. Seattle, interestingly, is a better road team than a home team.

They're 4-0 this year away from the Emerald City. For the record, Seattle is 54-0. when they are ahead by four or more points at half since Russell Wilson showed up. Isn't that a remarkable stat? You talk about a team that doesn't blow halftime leads? Russell Wilson and Seattle, 54-0 when Russell leads by four or more at half.

Wow. Eagles bills. Told you so. On Friday, I said this team is too good structurally. I'm not bailing on the Eagles, and I liked Buffalo. Josh Allen had 17. T-Ds and seven picks.

This is a very limited offense. It took the Eagles after Orlando Scandrick ripped him on my show, and Greg Kosell ripped him on Thursday. They kind of galvanized. This is a highly emotional, Steeler-esque football team that plays better with high emotion. And they also play better when they pound the football and let Carson Wentz on play action,

throw their big tight ends. That's what they did, and they really controlled the Buffalo Bills. We told you so. Chargers Bears. Done with Trubisky. Come on. Dating back to last year, according to pro football focus, he's the 50th rated quarterback.

50th. That means he's below 20 backup quarterbacks. Five touchdown passes all year. That's fewest for any quarterback that started five games. And don't tell me they don't have running back help they do, receiver help they do, and a clever offensive coach, they do. Giants, lions, coming out cold. They've been outscored, has New York, by 40 points in the first quarter this year.

Come on, Pat Schumer, get it together, four straight losses. I actually, they traded today for Leonard Williams, so they made their first ever trade with the Jets to get Leonard Williams on the defensive front and gave up some draft picks, which I actually, the way they look at it is we have money to spend. We're not paying Daniel Jones and say Juan Barclay anything yet. We got money to spend, and they went and got a terrific defensive lineman Leonard Williams. Jets, Jags, Jags, Troll, Darnold. The mascot dressed up as a ghost.

Do you see that? Because Sam Darnold Sees ghosts. Sees ghosts. By the way, Jag fans trolled him later with a banner that said, Gardner Minchew ain't afraid of no ghosts. I didn't initially get this. That's how dim I am. And then I was like, what, oh, ghost, Sam Darnold ghosts.

Bingles Rams. Cup of tea? Game played in London. Cooper Cups, seven catches, 220 yards. Everybody thinks it's Todd Gurley's injury and decline, but when Cooper Cup got hurt last year, they still ran the ball with C.J. Anderson. Jared Gough was never the same. Cooper Cup is a top five NFL receiver. Third down catches first, third down yards first, target second, receiving yard second, deceiving speed, strong, great. hands terrific routes. He is a star from my alma mater, Eastern Washington University. Cardinal

Saints, what a breeze. Arizona's not terrible and drew through for almost 400 yards. I love watching Drew Breeze play. He and Brady, the way he moves in the pocket, I could sit here and watch Drew Breeze. He makes so many smart pre-snap reads. Michael Thomas, I think they should trade Teddy Bridgewater and get him one more offensive target. Bears have depth at wide receiver. Buck's Titans, James isn't the answer. James Winston, four more turnovers. Do you know he's six and 22 in his last 28 games as a starter? And for the record, Tampa's got really good offensive weapons. Mike Evans is as good as any receiver in the NFL. He's had 91 turnovers, has James Winston since he entered the league.

That's 15 more. A season's worth than any other quarterback. Broncos Colts. Brissette saves day. Two minutes to go, trailing by a point. Watch this play by Jacoby Brissette. If not for

Deshawn Watson and Aaron Rogers, the play of the day. Look at this rope. A 35-yard rope to Tyre Hilton. This could have been the end of the game. Vaughn Miller flings him around and Jacob Brissette, just a frozen line to T.Y. Hilton, they come in. Adam Vinuterry with a 51-yard field goal for the win. One of the plays of the day just overshadowed by Deshawn Watson. Panthers 49ers, what a statement.

Kyle Allen didn't have a pick. He had three of them yesterday. Kyle Allen was sacked seven times and San Francisco's offense, Coleman, Kittles, everybody, Breedah. George Kittles is so open all the time. That's schemes. And they have, as Bucky Brooks said,

multiple running backs. And this team's young, a bunch of kids. They're only going to get better. Raiders, Texans, one-eyed Watson, cleat to the face, adjusted his helmet, spun around,

and threw the winning touchdown against the Raiders. Deshawn Watson. All-time great. John Gruden said he's Michael Jordan. Brown's Patriots, three straight turnovers. New England up three-nothing. First quarter, Cleveland fell apart after that. Nick Chubb fumbled. Next play, Chubb ran 44 yards, fumbled again. Next play, Baker at his butt fumble. What a mess. Packers Chiefs. Aaron to Aaron. He threw for 305 yards.

Over half to Aaron Jones. Finally, Green Bay is using, finally is using their running backs. They had four touchdowns yesterday. We've talked about the defense. The other great part of this Green Bay team, running backs are now valued and elevated, and Green Bay's in first place. See you tomorrow. Last night, a blown call changed a game. This morning, the internet lost its mind, and nobody's telling you exactly what happened.

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