The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Patrick Mahomes, LeBron James, playoffs, Baker Mayfield, Sam Darnold

Episode Date: June 11, 2020

Colin discusses athletes like Patrick Mahomes and LeBron James doing what politicians can't, players not delivering in the playoffs, Baker Mayfield being the main problem for the Browns, and why people don't give Sam Darnold the credit he deserves. Guests include Antonio Daniels, Bryan Cox, Rob Parker, and Dwight Freeney. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Oh, here we go on a uniquely packed Thursday live in Los Angeles. This is the herd. Wherever you may be and however you may be listening, we're on IHeart Radio, we're on Fox Sports Radio, and we're on FS1. It is great to have you in today. Brian Cox, Rob Parker next hour, Antonio Daniels this hour. Joy Taylor's joining me. Joy, how are you?

I made my own dinner last night, and I had another cigar last night. Wow. Yeah, it's the new me. Well, you know, it's about balance. It looked like you had some healthy chicken going on there. Yeah, I made my own dinner last night. Did you season it? Oh, absolutely.

I'm a garlic guy. Garlic oil, garlic powder. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm a guy. I'm no fun that you don't want to be around me after I have dinner with all the garlic, but I... I cook probably 98% of the things that I make with garlic. Love it. You just have to deal with it. Outside of oatmeal, I use it on everything.

Anything salty, essentially, that I'm making is going to have some kind of garlic in it. Well, it's great to have you in today. You know, in my lifetime, I don't remember a star quarterback in his prime, really taking on politics. Patrick Mahomes is now. Patrick Mahomes said, you know what? I got a platform. If I can make life better, why shouldn't I use it? And it should be, I really like this.

And I'll tell you why. Everybody wants a voice. you want your, if you're a guy, you want your wife to hear you, you want your kids to hear you, you want your boss to hear you, you go to Twitter, you want to be heard. So why can't LeBron and Patrick Mahomes? Go to Twitter for five minutes. People who have never accomplished anything. They want to be heard.

In our lives, we all want to be heard. So I'm going to rely on politicians to run my country, really? There's a reason that when you ask people in a world, America, who should be our next president? A lot of people say Mark Cuban. Six months ago, a lot said Oprah, because they're smart and they work well with people and they're not politicians. What does it tell you that Donald Trump won the presidency on this?

I'm not a politician. And we were like, thank God. That tells you the state of American politics. maybe if politicians did a better job and were less divisive and less infuriating and got voter suppression solved, I wouldn't need an NBA star and an NFL quarterback to step in and use their popularity. Well, what do they know? You know what? LeBron never has to say, hey, Senator, can you play for the Lakers?

We're not productive. Patrick Mohomes never asked to say, hey, Congressman, could you come suit up for the chiefs because we're not productive? but our politicians are not productive enough. It's about winning, protecting their turf, protecting their careers, fundraising for the next election. There's a reason people are talking about Mark Cuban because he's smart and gets stuff done and it doesn't need to whiz on people and win every argument. He's looking for solutions and answers. So Patrick Mahomes is the reason Roger Goodell, many people, many of the ones, many,

speculate, watch that Black Lives Matter tape with NFL players, and the story is, Goodell saw Patrick Mahomes on it and went, I'm on the player's side. That's influence. If I need LeBron's influence to solve a systemic issue in America, voter suppression, I had this conversation with my wife about four days ago. We're sitting out in the deck, drinking a cheap beer. And I said to her, we can figure out how to use phones to vote for American Idol. We can't figure out how to vote in this country.

It's a constant maze for lots of young people who have never voted, want to. Let's make it simpler. But the reason athletes who are now so popular, we know athletes don't get into political issues to make money, they're already rich. They don't do it to be popular. They're already popular. They do it to solve problems our politicians can't.

Our current president ran on the platform. I'm not a politician. That got him in. Regardless of what you think of him now, that's why people talk about Oprah and Mark Cuban. They're not about arguing and poking and prodding. I just want to help people. Here's Patrick Mahomes on in Kansas City,

stepping up on not only Black Lives Matter, but stepping up on voter registrations. I'm definitely aware. I'm aware of everything, aware of my surroundings. I'm aware of coming off a Super Bowl championship and being the quarterback of a Super Bowl winning team. But I've always believed in people, and I've always believed in when people do things together and do things for the right reasons and have a good heart when they do it, that things get done and changes, change happens. I'm blessed to have this platform, why not use it? And I feel like I've gotten older and I know I'm still young, I've learned a lot. And I think that's, that was one of the things I, is I know I have this platform. I know not everyone will agree with it, but I'm going to do my best to make the world a better place. And this is the right moment to do it. It's not doing it for money. He's going to make $400 million. He's not doing it to be popular. He's already popular. Not doing it to be cool. He's not doing it to walk into a room and everybody turn their head. Check, check, check,

check, check, check. Got all those. He's doing it because he wants to help people. He's doing it because he wants to help people. If we're going to simply rely on politicians in this country to get stuff done, not enough stuff gets done. For the record, during COVID, it was the business community. Everybody, globally, the business community. In Seattle, it was Bill Gates, Microsoft, creating masks, you know, your Elon Musk's or, you know, every state had somebody else.

We relied on business people to step in because our politicians were not. prepared to handle it. I'm sorry, but I look to business people to solve big issues. I don't look to my mayor. He's got an election to win again. He's got an agenda and turf to protect. Mahalms doesn't. LeBron doesn't.

They want to help people. They want to make the voting process more fair. I am all for it. I wouldn't have to be all for it. If politics wasn't so partisan and divisive, And there wasn't such, it's so discouraging and disheartening. I mean, it's hard to go online for five minutes when you wake up in the morning, not read about our current state of political affairs and not be depressed.

That's why Patrick Mahomes, LeBron James, that's why they get involved. That's why somebody's got to get something done. Somebody's got to figure stuff out. We can't trust the people who currently have the control. So I saw this. This is very interesting. Now we'll get back to sports. I know.

Stick to sports. So Bleacher report is very, very popular. Bleacher report, you know that, right? Yes, Bleacher report is very popular. Very popular. So they ranked every NFL quarterback supporting cast. And not a surprise. Kansas City is number one.

But number two is Cleveland. And this isn't just Bleacher Report. Pro Football Focused named Nick Chubb, the number one most elusive running back in the league. Pro football focused ranked Miles Garrett and Olivier Vernon, the number two pass rushing team in the league. They've also upgraded at tight end both tackles. Yet the over-under for the Cleveland Browns, in a weapons league, in an offensive league, they're second to the Kansas City Chiefs. I could argue they have more depth offensively than the Kansas City Chiefs. They may not have the top end stuff, but they got more depth.

They got two receivers. They got two tied ends. They got two running backs. Definitely better than Kansas City at running back. And now probably potentially as good at tackle. Eight and a halfs they're over under. What? Why is that?

Baker Mayfield's maturity. Nobody knows if he's mature enough. You put Patrick Mahomes with that talent? Oh, wait, they're over under's 12. Drew Breeze is 41, non-athletic, doesn't throw a deep ball. Cleveland's got better talent, and their over-unders, 10, 10-5. Tom Brady's over-under is 9-5, new coach, old, unathletic, new system. No running game.

This is what we talk about maturity matters. Fox bet, Vegas, they don't care about anything other than wins, and they think they're a 500 team with those weapons. The first year, we blame the coach. Hugh Jackson. Last year, we blamed the coach, Freddie Kitchens. The owners in Cleveland are not blaming the coach again. I've said this before. If Sam Darnold struggles, Adam Gase will be fired because Darnold hasn't had any maturity issues. If Cleveland doesn't make the playoffs, Baker Mayfield's getting fired. Ask yourself, how are they an eight and a half win team

with Brady's got a new system? Brady's got a new coach. Brady's He's got a new city. Brady's got a new offensive line. Brady's got new receivers. He's unathletic. He's old. They're over. And I would argue the division top to bottom is better.

This is why maturity matters. Not my opinion, Vegas. They see him as a 500 football team. So I don't. I think Cleveland wins nine. I think they make the playoffs. But what does it tell? you when Bleacher Report, pro football focus, all these grades, all these lists have Cleveland

like only Kansas City in an offensive league where all the rules are geared for offense has more talent. And they're a 500 team. Because Breeze and Russell Wilson and Brady, they synthesize it. They bring it all together. They're their Vegas trusts that the quarterback will get it all together. Well, I mean, Kevin Stefansky. What about him?

Do you think Bruce Ariens is a Hall of Famer? He likes cocktails early and he closes practice quickly. Bruce Ariens retired went into broadcasting. We didn't even know in Tampa if he was all in. We thought he was. We're not sure. He likes coaching, but you're not going to be here long. So this is why when I bang on the maturity thing, Vegas, Fox Bet, they're telling you,

this is an all-star cast in Cleveland over-unders eight and a half. I have the over, by the way. Coming up next, you know, there's all this talk about, you know, pressure, pressure, the pressure for LeBron to win and all this stuff. No, no, no. The pressure's on Janus, okay? Because I'm over it and I'm tired of the hype and the promises. And LeBron, he's Amazon. I call, he delivers.

Well, LeBron delivers. He's Amazon and sneakers. All the pressure of the NBA, which is coming back in just. July is, to me, all on Janus. That's coming up. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1 and the IHeart Radio app. Last night, a blown call changed a game. This morning, the internet lost its mind. Highlights are trending, opinions are flying, and nobody's telling you exactly what happened. That's where Sports Slice comes in. I'm Timbo. Every episode,

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And I'm like, because he delivers. It's the same reason to talk about Tom Brady. Neither one does anything but show up, work hard, and delivers. The NBA has got a lot of talented players, but 90% of the stars, it's talk, it's hype, it's just weight, it's promises, it's guarantees, and I get nothing. Some of the best players in the league, like Hardin and Westbrook and maybe Paul George, their brands are talented, but they never really make it happen in the postseason. The most pressure in these playoffs, it's not on LeBron James. as I said last break, he's Amazon. All he does is deliver.

Anthony Davis has been in this league eight years. He has one playoff series win. Stop with the promises in the just wait. Stop with a hype. Yonis has been in the league seven years. He's got two playoff series wins in the East both last year. You keep telling me and promising me and guaranteeing me, Janice, go win games.

LeBron was in the East. He left. Kauai was in the East. East. He left. KD. is in the East. He's hurt. Who's the second best player in the East? Yannis has a great coach, good bench scoring, an all-star and Chris Middleton, several shooters around him. A terrific home court advantage. Milwaukee fans are some of the loudest in the league. It's the East. Katie hurt, LeBron and Kauai left. Win it. If Janice doesn't get to the finals, he's just another talented guy who has limitations and holes and is not built to win in the postseason.

But I see these, every year I see all these anonymous general manager study. I want to build around Carl Anthony Town and I want to build around Anthony Davis. I'm going to build around Janice. And I'm always like, hell, I'm building around LeBron and Kauai. Because those are the only two guys that don't promise anything. Well, I mean, LeBron had a little promise in Miami. me, but Kauai doesn't promise anything. He just delivers.

He just wins. He gets to the finals. He's the best player in the finals. So you're talking about pressure. If you're in this league seven years in the East, and I can't name the second best player after you, pressure's on you. Pressure's not on

LeBron. LeBron's delivered more than enough. It's not on Kauai Leonard. The pressure's on this guy. Yonis. Keep telling me, he's the future of the league. Win. Coach. Check. Bench scoring, check. Shooters, check.

All-Star next year, check. Home court advantage, good GM, check, check. Let's go. All the big dogs are gone. All the big dogs are gone. LeBron, boom. Kauai, boom. Katie, boom.

Let's go. It's yours. Dance floor is yours. That's what the pressure is at. Joy with the news. No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news.

Phil Rivers is getting a new start with the Colts in his 17th NFL season. A long time. And he admitted that recent talk about him being washed up was very frustrating to hear. Oh, it was. At times, I think what may have aggravated me a little bit last year was, you know, then I just couldn't play anymore. You know, when you heard that, it bothered me because I wanted to go, dude, let's turn on the tape and watch all the good things.

Yes, there were some bad plays last year. So, and I own up to all those. But I just think, there was so much good. And I still, shoot, I had some throws last year that were probably as good as I've had in my whole career. So I knew. So I didn't feel like I had to, you know, sell that to anyone. Well, he's going to have protection. So I know this.

The teams, the roster's not as good. And the receivers and tight ends are not as good in Indianapolis. But he's going to have a lot of time to throw. And we'll see what happens. I got a really, I've got this eight and eight thing in my mind with the Colts. The Colts were tied for 11th and past. blocking, the Chargers were ranked 31st. Right.

So he'll have time to throw. Where the throws go, we're not sure. Well, right. So that's like, that's the question. So you do have protection now. Obviously, like you said, the skill players are not the same level that the Chargers have. No. Chargers have way better receiver tidying groupings.

But now it's on you. So let's go. I mean, look, I like Philip Rivers a lot. I think he's had an incredible career. He's one of the most. Likeable, feisty. Ficey, yes, I like that he talks trash. You don't usually see that with quarterbacks.

And he's actually good. So he's not talking trash and looking crazy. But we saw what we saw last year. Like, yes, the offensive line pass blocking was bad. But we also, we did watch. Like you threw 20 interceptions. No, I mean, what you don't need analytics to see obvious stuff. Like Eli Manning, both of us said two years ago, it looks like he shot.

Right. Philip Rivers. You don't have to be a great athlete. But you can't be the league's most unathletic quarterback. You can't move the pocket with him. So, you know, listen, I think it's stopgap. Indianapolis feels like, and I love their organization, they feel like they're right smack dab in the middle of this league

with an above-average roster and not the weapons of the quarterback quite to get him to the next step. So I think, I think they feel very eight and eight, nine and seven to me. That's fair. I don't think Philip Rivers makes them that much better. Fair. I agree. I agree. So New England is widely expected.

to have a down year as they adjust to playing without Tom Brady, but former Patriot Christian Fourier actually thinks that Brady's departure will be a blessing in disguise. What, huh? I think that this offense is better off without him. Can I tell you why? And it has nothing to do with Brady's skill say. It's not because he's not good or he can't throw it or he's lost some speed on his fastball. It's because where he was in his career, his age, what he wanted to achieve,

and what the Patriots were trying to achieve were completely different. This offense is not going to be able to move forward with Brady as the quarterback, not because he sucks. Those throwaways were important. It's because he wasn't willing to adapt. There's the difference. I totally disagree. Do I even have to get into that?

They're better off with Tom gone. Okay, sure. I mean, what was Brady trying to achieve? Survival with that group of weapons? I mean, come on. I'm not even, I'm not even. The Patriots are an organization that is expected to be in the Super Bowl every single year. Tom Brady expects to win a Super Bowl every single year.

I'm pretty sure that's what he was trying to accomplish last year. Was there something? Like what were the Patriots trying to do? They were trying to develop their young players. That's not what the Patriots do. The minute he said, they'll be better off about Tom. The wax in my ears stopped. Like, stopped.

I couldn't hear anything after that. I mean, look, if the goal for the Patriots was to move. move into the future because they have the next guy or they feel like all of their pieces are ready to take the next step, then sure, but that's not how the Patriots are built. Bill Belichick wanted Tom Brady back. Like, they're absolutely not better without Tom Brady. That's not a... You know what?

I feel like that's not a question. And again, I keep saying this because Bill Belichick just has a way of doing stuff that nobody else understands until it's too late. So maybe I'm wrong. and Jared Sidham actually is the next on Brady. No. What's going to happen is they're going to get off to a two and four start. He's going to trade Stefan Gilmore for picks,

and they're going to finish five and 11, and he's going to get Trevor Lawrence or Justin Fields. Well, he also thinks that Nikiel Harry's development would have been delayed with Brady on the team. Well, maybe that's an argument, but that doesn't make, yeah, you're probably right. But how does that make the Patriots better? It makes Nikiel Harry better, maybe. Dante Scarnacki, a retired offensive line coach.

They're officially worse. The second he walked out the door and gave his pass back to get into Foxboro, they were a worst franchise offensively. So there's still a lot of uncertainties about how the NFL will deal with the pandemic when play starts in the fall. And Bruce Ariens is considering all options when it comes to keeping at least one of his quarterbacks healthy. He said there's so much to learn and still explore with this thing. But I've thought about keeping the third quarterback on the roster out of the room. We have two guys that have been in our system really sharp. So I might have to quarantine a quarterback just in case of a corner.

quarantine. Blaine Gabbard and Ryan Griffin are the two backup quarterbacks and both were on the bucks with Ariens last season. So basically he's saying if, you know, there's an unfortunate situation where Tom Brady test positive and then Blaine Gabbard's in the room with him. So he asked to also be quarantined. What do you do? So coaches are starting to like think of these possible scenarios moving into the season.

We don't know how this is going to work or what the, you know, virus is going to look like in a couple months. but that is something to think about. Like, do you keep a position like a quarterback? Like, do you keep someone separate out of the building for meetings during the week? It's interesting because I was talking about this with the staff meeting this morning. The NFL, one of the things they're the advantages of having time on this is they're going to cut their preseason down to like two games. To me, this is what the NBA should have done.

22 teams is just more bodies. To me, it was always 16 teams, get to the playoffs. Just survive the pandemic. Get through it. Don't worry about making everybody happy in the development of Atlanta Hawk players. Let's just get it in, shorten the series, three gamers, five gamers, crown a champ, get out.

The NFL, like Bruce Ariens, to me, if I'm the NFL today, I'm figuring out fewer practices, less hitting, fewer games, no exhibition, more meetings outside, fewer meetings. Everybody's going to be a little sloppier. I tell the officials, less holding calls. Let's understand the world we have.

I think what Bruce Ariens is hitting on is we're still in the middle of a virus, right? A pandemic. Let's shorten everything as much as we can, less contact and just let's just manage this thing and try to escape it into 2021. They don't ignore that it's happening and try and limit the risk as much as possible. Right. No, a joy with the news. Well, that's the news.

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Global Satellite. Brought to you by Mercedes-Benz the best or nothing. You know, usually we disagree on stuff, and that's why I like having you on the show. You're always calling me out. Let me start for this. I said, I think you're asking the NBA players a lot. They're going to watch football

players playing in their home stadiums with fans. They're going to watch baseball players playing in stadium with their own fans. And then these guys were in a bubble in Orlando, not seeing their families. I think it's a tough ask. I'm not surprised that some of the non-stars, the fringe teams, are pushing back today and saying, do we have to be in a bubble for seven weeks? What was your reaction to that story?

It was a matter of time before this became an issue. You know, when you go back a month or so ago and the conversation was more about just getting the NBA back on the floor. And you heard about the phone call, the conference call with some of the stars of the league and everybody was ready to get back and get back on the floor and ready to play. But now when you start to get to this time in mid-June, it just got real. And when you realize what that looks like, at the time, it's like, okay, well, we can make do. Think about this, Colin.

America in general had a difficult time staying quarantined in their own homes. in their own homes for four weeks or six weeks. And what you're asking players to do is step out of their comfort zone, going to a bubble in Orlando, and stay there for two to three months. That is not an easy thing to do. Yeah. You know, I said I thought we were better off doing 16 teams, not 22. Let's just manage this thing and just get through it.

I think more teams is more bodies, more trainers, more coaches, more. more older people, and I think it's problematic. But I do think Zion is the reason they extended from 16. That's my conspiracy theory. Do you buy it? Well, I mean, you know, when you look at all the professional sports, from Major League Baseball to hockey to football, there's no other professional sport that's as star-driven as the NBA is.

You know, and the fact that the matter is, I feel like the NBA got this right. Now, I'm not speaking bias, Colin, because if the Pelicans were an eighth, I would be saying the same exact thing. What you wanted to do was put players in a situation where they feel comfortable, they feel safe, where their families feel comfortable and safe also. And also, teams that weren't mathematically eliminated give them incentive to come back and play. And that's exactly what they've done. There were 22 teams that were not eliminated that still had an opportunity. opportunity to make the playoffs. Rather a strong chance or a slight chance, they still had an

opportunity. And the fact of the matter is, when you look at LeBron and you look at Janus, and you look at James Hardin and some of these other stars of the NBA, that man that you are looking at right there, Zion Williamson, is a big of a draw as any of them. You know, I theorize that the hiatus will help veteran teams because Anthony Davis is healthy, LeBron, Rondo, Danny Green. That the hiatus could help. the Lakers because old teams want to save their legs, but I'm told you don't agree. Who do you think the hiatus helps? I don't think the hiatus helps the Lakers.

I don't think the hiatus helps Milwaukee. The reason I feel like it somewhat hurts them is because the way they were playing when the season was postponed. That's tough. You know, if you look at LeBron and the Lakers and Janus and Milwaukee, both of those teams were playing at an incredibly high level in the second week of March. And now what you're asking teams and guys. to do is pick up right where you left off. This is not a one to two week hiatus. We are talking about

three to four months. So to ask a team to pick up that chemistry, that camaraderie, that rhythm that you had March 10th or March 11th, that's going to be tough to do. Where I feel like it helps the Lakers and where I feel like it helps the clippers and where it hurts the younger teams is in the realm of home court advantage. Because young teams, will thrive off the energy of their teams. I mean, off the energy of their crowd. Yeah. You need that crowd when you're a young team.

But think about LeBron. LeBron's been in every possible circumstance, basketball speaking. Game six on the row, gave seven on the row in the NBA finals. So home court doesn't mean much to these guys. Kauai Leonard, you know, these guys. But when you're talking about young teams like Memphis, like New Orleans, like Portland, some of these other teams, they are going to need that home crowd behind them. them because young teams tend to feed

off the energy of that crowd. Janice and LeBron and Kauai, they may not need that crowd as much as some of these other teams do because of their experience. Do you believe if LeBron won a title, it would be an asterisk season for LeBron? I am on the total opposite of that as far as the asterisk is concerned. Because an

asterisk to me means that someone has a clear-cut advantage that someone else doesn't have. It's not the that COVID-19 didn't affect 22 teams. It affected all teams. All teams have been off for three to four months. I am on the opposite end of that. I feel like if LeBron wins a championship or whoever wins a championship this upcoming

season should get more credit because of all that they had to overcome, all that they've had to endure. They've had to deal with things that no other NBA champion has had to deal with. Being quarantined for three to four months, no home court advantage, all of these different things and circumstances that COVID-19 has brought, for me, give that team more credit as opposed to removing credit and putting the asterisk next to their name. Yeah. You know, one final question for Antonio Daniels, who I love having on the show, he did Zion's games

this year. So I said when I first saw Zion at Duke, I said, I can't explain it. But that's what a star looks like in American sports. The smile. He's just kind of a joyful kid, the power. you covered him this year as their analyst. I don't get to watch every minute, every game. Brandon Ingram, by the way, had a very good year, the former Laker.

What did Zion bring? What's Zion like at practice? Was there a moment this year that you were surprised by what he did? Actually, I can't say that I was surprised because the moment that of day one of training camp, and I was at every practice of every training camp, every practice this year. The young man is special. There is a Zion factor. There's a wow factor that he possesses that other guys don't have.

And you're right. I can't explain it. I cannot. He's a great kid. It's just something that comes along with stardom that certain guys have. And Zion has whatever it is. I can't explain what it may be. But Zion has it.

I say all the time he's one-on-one in NBA history. It's a lot of different guys that you can look at that were fantastic, throughout the course of this history of this league. But for a guy this size, with his agility, his ability, his second jump, his touch around the rim, his power, his explosion, you can take different attributes from different players

and say he has a little bit of this guy or he has a little bit of that guy or he has a little bit of this guy. But in watching and covering this young man from his smile to his personality to his overall game, the NBA has yet to see someone like Zion, on and just think we've had such a small sample size of what he is.

This young man is just scratching the surface. You know, Darry, the GM of the Rocket said this week, he said, you know, the media is not fair with James Harden. And I said my comp for James Hardin is a player I grew up loving George Gervyn. George and Hardin have a unique shot that nobody else duplicates. They're unbelievable scoring threats to drop 45 on any night. but I don't always think they're the easiest to play with or their style is often the best for the postseason.

For instance, Hardin sort of needs a whistle and in the postseason, refs swallow it. I do think Hardin, 20 years from now, will simply be known as a George Gervin level score, a top, a phenomenal, got his shoe, own personality, very quirky, not much in the defensive end. I don't think it's a knock on him. think he'll be in my George Gervin class, and I think George is a top 50 player ever. Is that unfair

to James Harden? I think it's unfair right now because James Hardin's story isn't finished. What we're assuming and what it sounds like you're assuming is the fact that he won't win an NBA title. Yeah. I think when you start to look at the history of James Harden, I don't think we can say that yet. Just think if two years ago, if Chris Paul's hamstring is healthy, We're having a completely different conversation about James Hardin. Because who knows, at that time, maybe they defeat the Golden State Warriors. And I know everyone can say, what if, what if. Maybe they defeat the Golden State Warriors in that time.

But I am not ready to write James Hardin off as just a flat-out score. And the fact that that scoring doesn't translate to winning. No, it hasn't yet. And I agree with everything you just said, Kotlin. And I think the biggest reason is because of the way that the game is fissiated come play all time. During the season, you see him getting to the line 14, 15, 16 times a game. And then when the postseason comes, you see referees allow a little bit more contact. The game slows down a little bit more.

So as opposed to 14, 15, 16 free throws a game, now you're talking about eight to nine free throw attempts a game. So that's something that within the own realm of him, that he's going to have to adjust to himself. But I honestly feel like the story on James Hardin is just starting. good stuff Antonio Daniels are you doing this from your from your SUV out in your driveway or something where are you no I met I'm at a sports club this is the time I get together with a couple guys we work out together every single day so but I couldn't cut turn down the opportunity to come on with you brother I love joining you I love having you buddy Antonio Daniels thanks man appreciate you brother oh he's good love having him on coming up next I think there's an NFL quarterback that most of you rip simply because I like him.

And I feel terrible about that. And I'll explain that. We need to be nicer because you don't like him just because of me. You know, some people host radio shows and the audience loves them. Half my audience hates me. So I'm going to, I think I may have to stop talking about him so you will finally give him love. I'll talk about that coming up. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific.

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And on my podcast, The Cliverts Show, I'm bringing you conversations about all kinds of stuff, like being an internet famous referee. We're in the middle of a game. This linebacker walks up to me, he goes, Hey, ref, my mom wants you to wave at her. What? Time out.

Quarterback on office blue with 42. Hey, ref, my mama want you to wave at her. What? Where's he at? Hey, Miss Parker. Listen to the Clifford Show on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. I don't think any of us would ever deny that your parents have a huge, huge part in deciding how your life goes. Do you grow up in a stable environment?

Do you grow up in an unstable environment? Are you loved? Are you supported? no reasonable person would deny that, you know, zero to 15 years old, having some stability, some loved, being loved, being helped, being assisted, being elevated is a huge advantage. That is not to say you can't overcome it. And we see this in pro sports all the time. Nobody would deny that Pete Carroll's been aided by Russell, Russell Wilson, excuse me,

has been aided by he had a good owner, he had a good coach, they gave him a great defense. So for the first two years of Russell Wilson's development, he had the running back, this and that. Now, it's been his franchise since then. And nobody would argue that Andrew Locke simply had too much to overcome, and that's why he's no longer playing and has retired. It matters. Not only does it matter when you're a child, but as you age, I've worked for six different companies, five different companies, four have been great. The one place I didn't feel I really succeeded. it was bad management.

There's nothing against them. It was just a circus from the day I got there. At one point, we had a dog on the set. I'm not joking every night. And at one point we did news from a leather couch. I'm not joking about that either. So in that Bleacher report, they ranked the quarterbacks who had the most help. Mahomes had the best skill people.

Baker was second. Sam Darnold was 30th. Every other quarterback, every other young quarterback in this league got something. Josh Allen got the coach. Lamar got the organization. Baker got the wide receiver talent. Deshawn Watson got wide receiver weapons. Patrick Mahomes got everything.

Sam Darnold got nothing. I'm reading Bleacher reports discussion on Darnold. They say, the Jets have failed to surround Sam Donald with a quality cast. It'll be slightly better this year. They've drafted a potential number one receiver, and they have a promising rookie left

tackle. Oh, good hell. Where you land, where you're raised, what you're born into is so vital. Every other young quarterback got something to grab onto, some support group. His first head coach in New York

was fired. His first coordinator in New York had not been a coordinator in the NFL for eight years. His first GM was incompetent. Weapons, brutal. O-line, tragic. Ownership below average. They begged a center

to come out of retirement last year to protect him. He got hurt. His best receiver, Robbie Anderson, his favorite target, Jets wouldn't keep him, let him go for pennies.

Yet he went seven and six last year. He had mono. In the three games, he didn't play for the Jets. They were not only 0 and 3, they scored 23 points total. And in two of the three games, they had 70 passing yards or less.

He then got out of a hospital, walked up against Dallas, threw for 360 yards, a couple of touchdowns, and they crushed the Cowboys and Dak Prescott. He is the only young quarterback in this league. Nothing. what does he grab onto? Where's his support system?

30th, according to Bleacher Report. The draft in 2015, you think, well, maybe he walked into some good players with the Jets. The draft in 2015, not a single player is still there. And in the second half last year of his starts, in his last eight starts, he was six and two, 13 touchdowns, four picks, but he gets a lot of heat. And I found this out, I think because half my audience hates me that you kept pushing back on Andrew Locke

until everybody acknowledged the Lord, he didn't have any help. You keep pushing back on Russell Wilson until finally you're like, he makes everything work. Donald, I have to quit praising him. And I just want you to watch him. And I think their schedule this year is brutal.

I think their weapons are still bottom. I like Levian Bell. I'm not sure if he's got to. a ton left. Herndon's a great tight end. He's just never available to play. But I think I'm hurting Sam Darnold. I think my fascination and my pleas to acknowledge his greatness is now hurting his brand. I think you're onto something, actually. Seriously. You might be right. I think people are just pushing back because they don't like me. So from now on, it's just that guy with the Jets. Coming up, I like maps a lot. And I'm going to unveil an NFL and

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To be clear, 84 was big to me, not just because of crack. I'm down to talk about crack on day, but just so you know. I mean, at this point, Mark, this is the second episode where we've discussed crack. So I'm starting to see that there's a through line. We also have AIDS on the table right now. Thank you for finishing that sentence. Yes. I don't think there's a more important year for black people.

Really? Yeah. For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history. back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to my new podcast, Learn the Hardway with me, your host, and your favorite therapist, Keer Games. And in recognition of Mental Health Awareness Month, I'm bringing over a decade of my own experience in the mental health field and conversations with so many incredible guests.

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Open your free iHeartRadio app, search Learn the Hardway, and listen now. What's up, guys? This is Clivert Taylor the Fourth. And on my podcast, The Cliverts Show, I'm bringing you conversations about all kinds of stuff, like being an internet famous referee. We're in the middle of a game. This linebacker, this linebacker walks up to me, he goes, hey, ref, my mom wants you to wave at her. What? Quarterback on office blue with 42. Hey, Rhett, Mom, I want you to wave at her. What?

Hey, Miss Parker. Listen to the Clippers show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Ah, here we go at our two, five minutes from now, the outspoken Brian Cox. former dolphin and patriot, former great. They'll be joining us. This is The Hurd, wherever you may be, and however you may be listening. We are on IHeart Radio.

We are on Fox Sports Radio. And we are right here on FS1. Made my own dinner last night very proud of it. Joy, what did you make for dinner last night, Joy Taylor? I had salad with tuna. That's not enough to eat. It was a big salad with tuna? Look, summer's approaching, Colin.

It's here. And that means what? Yeah, I can't just be out here eating pasta every night, like the beginning of quarantine. I'm going to cut back on the carbs a little bit. I'm still on a meal plan. So, you know, during the week, I don't eat anything exciting. All right. If I fed my cat tuna and salad, he'd be like, that's it?

That's all I get? I make it, though. All right. It's really good. A lemon pepper, a little celery. All right. So if you love something, you root for it to grow. obviously with my kids, you know.

I always thought professionally I was kind of selfish. You know, I was worried about my career. I don't think that's a stretch to say that. And all of a sudden, you get kids, and it was the first time of my life, I rooted for somebody more than me. And I don't think that I'm unique. I think it's just the funny thing about being a parent. I used to get on airplanes and I'd hear kids scream,

and I'd be like, oh, so obnoxious. Oh, kids are the worst. Then you have kids, you get in a plane, they scream. You're like, you feel so sorry for any parent whose kids screaming an airplane. plane. You have such sympathy. But you root for things you love. You want to see them succeed. And I love college football. But I think it's gotten lopsided and completely regional. And I like drawing maps. So I was thinking about this this morning. I've always thought sports are better when everybody's involved. Everybody feels hopeful. If I told you in the NFL,

and this is so rare, who are the 10 best, most interesting teams in the league? They're all potentially good enough to get to the divisional rounder conference championships. They have star players or a star quarterback. I drew a map. Here's the teams I would pick in the NFL. The Northwest is represented, sorry radio audience in Seattle. The Bay Area represented Jimmy G. And the Rams.

The Midwest represented Green Bay in Kansas City. The plain states, Dallas. The South has Tampa Bay and New Orleans. has Baltimore and Philadelphia. They're big brands. They've got star players. The Rams have a star style. There's complete geographic symmetry.

Ten teams in the league, it's either a star system, a star quarterback, a star player. They're very good. They're very compelling. All over the country, everybody can play. In college football,

if I said, what 10 teams have a chance to vie for the national championship? Because obviously, you don't have as many star players. because they're amateur athletes. But the 10 teams that are going to be interesting and really good, and you wouldn't be surprised if any of them got to the playoff, what does the map look like?

There you go. Penn State, Ohio State, Notre Dame, Oklahoma, Bama, Georgia, Clemson, Auburn, Florida is going to have their best team in a decade and LSU. What does the map look like? That's why I said yesterday. Now, Oregon doesn't have a quarterback, although I think they could be very good. I don't know what their quarterback is, so it's hard for me to say,

I think their talent's good, not SEC level. This is why I say USC matters. This is it. When you love something, you want to see it succeed. College football's ratings are down 30% from the USC Texas National Championship game. It's too lobsided. Now, a guy in the South is like, you're crazy, it's great. see outside of yourself a little, maybe get outside the door,

get in a plane, go to another state. People out West, they admire Nick Saban, but they got a lot of pro sports and stuff to do. The West, Denver West, it's just not the same sport. So I think one of the reasons the NFL has never felt more popular than college football is a lack of hope in about, in two regions and 30 states. With that, I love having Brian Cox on the show,

played for Super Bowl champ for the Patriots, obviously a multiple-time pro-Boulder. I think he's the only player in NFL history, who was a teammate of Dan Marino and Tom Brady. I believe he's the only player ever. I could be wrong on that. Let's bring him in. Brian Cox via the Coward Global Satellite Network.

How are you, Brian Cox? It's great to see you. I'm good, Colin. How are you, my brother? I'm doing fine. I want to start with a couple of non-football things. Drew Breeze is a guy that we all admired, and then he came off as tone deaf, in my opinion,

and now most players publicly have said, I got his back. Are you concerned that there will be over the course of a season if New Orleans struggles, winning solves a lot of problems? Are you worried about Drew Breeze in that locker room going forward, Brian? No. a couple reasons for that. One, I think that he has enough currency built up in the community, if you will. He donated $5 million of his own dollars to Katrina when it happened.

I happen to know Drew a little bit, and I think he's an awfully fine guy. He made a horrendous comment, but I don't think it takes his legacy. He's apologized for it. And I think if you know anything about Drew, you know that. he and his wife have spoke about their actions speaking about it in their words. He'll do the work to correct this. And when he made the statement, I was a little down on him because I felt like,

you know, my great-grandfather fought in World War II, so he didn't come home to a hero's welcome. So my view of how I view it as opposed to how you view it is different. But the guys built up some currency, so I give him a pass on it. I think the message that Shaq gave to the team, Don't let anybody from outside come and tear the team apart. And I think that if they can do that, if they can stay together, because he's come out since and apologized,

and, you know, the people in the locker room know his heart, I think they'll be fine. You know, I said this yesterday. I said, the NFL quarterback play has never been younger and more dynamic. I don't know if Colin Kaepernick can take three and a half years off. I don't know if he's an NFL quarterback now. What is your guess on his future in the next 12 to 24 months? Well, I would like to see the NFL bring him back into the fold, not as a quarterback,

but as a spokesman for equality and change. When you take three and a half years off, it's hard to come back. And secondly, there are a lot of bad quarterbacks in the NFL, backup quarterbacks. He might be one of those guys looking at his numbers of the last two years. He didn't play real well. But at the end of the day, the man is second. He's sacrificed probably more than most, and he believed in something. And he's still for something when people were against him kneeling.

They tried to change the dynamic of what he was doing. And then all of a sudden we get to two weeks ago, and you see what he was kneeling for. And so I think that he'll go down and be one of the Kirk Fluds, the Muhammad Ali's. He'll be one of the athletes that we'll talk about for years to come. All right, let's go to current players. I think Tua is the best quarterback in this draft. There is a medical issue.

But I have this feeling, Brian, that he's going to look really good after about two weeks of practice. And Miami's an event star town. And people are going to say, we want Tua to play. Nothing against Ryan Fitzpatrick. If you were on that coaching staff, would you cave to his talent and cave to what's going to be an obvious popular pick or would you just sit in? How would you manage this with Tua? Well, there are two schools of thoughts.

You could go to Peyton Manningway and put him in the game from day one and let him start and get beat up and some people have confidence in those situations. Or you could say because the guy's been injured, we're going to take our time. We're probably not vying for a Super Bowl this year. We're going to be a better team. We're going to improve. We're going to be young. Let's sit him a little bit.

Let's let Fitzpatrick go and play. Let's make sure he's healthy. then we'll make a decision as to when we insert him as I started. Yeah. Another young quarterback, Baker Mayfield. I've been tough on him. I think quarterback is unique and maturity is paramount to success. If he struggles this year, that means he'll have struggled with Hugh Jackson.

He'll have struggled with Freddie Kitchens and he'll have struggled with Kevin Stefanski. And I don't think ownership is going to blame the coach for the third straight time. I think it's a make or break here for Baker. Do you? No, no. First of all, having coached in Cleveland, you have to understand the dynamics.

When you get to October and November, you better have a good run game and you better be able to play defense. They're playing Baltimore, they're playing Pittsburgh, and they're playing Cincinnati. They're on part with Cincinnati. They're probably a step below Pittsburgh and Baltimore is the cream of the crop in the division.

So when you look at bringing Rathletberger back from injury, When you look at that division, I mean, he's playing against some really good defenses. So a quarterback doesn't win or lose by himself. They need to develop the running game. They need to develop their defense. And by all accounts, head coach Kevin Stoffensky is a leader in the locker room. And that may be the thing that they need for Baker and that team as a whole to take the next step. Now let's talk about somebody I haven't seen play, Jarrett Stidham.

You have connections to the Patriots. I think it's a quarterback weapons league, and they don't have a lot in that department. I don't think they look the same this year. What do you think? I think differently. If you go back and look, you know, some years ago, when Matt Castle came off the bench, when Brady got hurt and he led them to the playoffs, this would be the same type of season. They won't be Super Bowl contenders.

They got a battle with the Buffalo Bills and the AFC East for the division title. which is going to be difficult because Buffalo is an up-and-coming team. The New York Jets will be improved, but Bill doesn't do this, meaning get rid of Tom Brady if he doesn't have a plan in place. And for him to not draft a quarterback, we'll say he's very comfortable with who he has in this room. We have seen all sorts. You've always been an outspoken person. We've seen some incredible protest.

99.9% have been peaceful. We are seeing legislative changes. As a black man in America who is a public figure, Brian, how does it land for you? What experience are you going through the last couple of weeks? I was terribly hurt with George Floyd's death. But here's what I say. I don't want to speak to the left, to the far left. I don't want to speak to the far right.

I want to speak to the middle of America on both sides, black and white. You know, you got to say one, where is God in it? and secondly you have to say for those people in the middle how can we enact change how can we come together and love each other as christ loved us and so whenever we go through one of these things the first thing i always think about from my pastor is where is christ in it and you know when the anger goes away what are you going to do um it's conversations that i've had to have with my son uh it's conversations that my dad had with me being black in america is it's difficult But we have to be careful not to bash white people, especially because this is the first time that we've seen some of these individual killings where we've had as many, if not more, white people protesting. So they're sick and tired, too.

So now all I'm saying is how can we come together and make sure that this stopped happening? and for me, you know, we can't be so angry that we run people away who are trying to help, whether it be white, black, Jewish, whatever it may be. I just think that the center of this country, the people that have a heart, the people that can look at that and say that's a crime regardless of if you white or if you're black, I just, I'd like to see the middle of the country come together. Brian, I love having you on the show. I love your perspective.

We may disagree on Baker Mayfield, but not much else. Good seeing you again. Thank you. I appreciate it coming. All right. Coming up next, everybody's worst NFL nightmare. That's coming up. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the IHeard Radio app.

Last night, a blown call changed the game. This morning, the internet lost its mind. Highlights are trending. opinions are flying, and nobody's telling you exactly what happened. That's where Sports Slice comes in. I'm Timbo. Every episode, we're cutting through the noise. Breaking down the plays, the controversies, and the stories behind the headlines. We go straight to the source, the athlete themselves, their locker room stories,

their reactions, the stuff nobody gets to hear. The laughs, the drama, the triumphs, the moments that never make the highlight real. From viral moments to historic games, from buzzer beaters to controversial calls, we break it down, give you context, and ask the question. questions everybody wants answered. Sports Slice brings you closer to the action with stories told by the people who live them. Listen to Sports Slice on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Slic Life 12 and the TikTok podcast network on TikTok.

Do you remember when Diana Ross double-tap Little Kim's boobs at the VMAs? Or when Kanye said that George Bush didn't like black people. I know what you're thinking. What the hell does George Bush got to do with Little Kim? Well, you can find out on the Look Back at it podcast. I'm Sam J. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick it here, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it.

Including a recent episode with Mark Lamont Hill waxing all about crack in the 80s. To be clear, 84 is big to me, not just because of crack. I'm down to talk about crack on day, but just so y'all know. I mean, at this point, Mark, this is the second episode where we've discussed crack. So I'm starting to see that there's a through line. We also have AIDS on the table right now. Thank you for finishing that sentence. I don't think there's a more important year for black people.

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It is the NFL's biggest nightmare that New England gets the next Brady even more talented than runs off 15 years of greatness. So New England fans, now this is, you know, this is Sully, James O'Henry, in a poll done pie chart, 52% of Patriot fans

think Stidham is stopped. gap. Only 32% think he's the guy for the future to win a title. So they don't buy into Stidim. You know I don't. So we've talked about the quarterback saturation in the NFL. Just quarterbacks are better. They're better sooner. The NFL is adopting their college schemes. So this year, Cincinnati, Miami and the Chargers all have three quarterbacks. I think all are going to be successful in the NFL. So take those three off. This is how easy it is. Just. three steps for New England to get one of the two great college quarterbacks next year. Step one. There are

six teams in this league. New England and then I'll just write for our radio and TV audience. Bears, Colts, Jags, Patriots, Raiders, Redskins. I like Derek Carr. Clearly, they brought in Marcus Marietta. The Raiders aren't in love with their guy. These six teams, you really don't know who was going to be the quarterback in two years. You really don't. You really don't. No, those six.

That's step one. Step two, and this may be a stretch, that Ron Rivera and the addition of Chase Young to an already good defensive front, Washington is competent, and Dwayne Haskins is competent in his first full year of starting the whole season. So those are the six teams. I predict, of those six teams, Chicago and Indy are simply going to win too many games. That's step one. They're going to win too many games to be a top six or seven pick.

between the Colts roster, the Bears defense, and the Bears coaching. So let's take those out. We're down to four. Step two is take the Redskins out. Duane Haskins, one-year starter in college, is now competent. And the defense with Ron Rivera and Chase Young, which I believe absolutely to be true, is just going to be hell on wheels. Step three is Jacksonville is awful, and they get one of the quarterbacks.

So Jacksonville, they're going to get one. that leaves the Patriots and the Raiders where they're not going to have the quarterback they want, they truly want in the building, they're not going to be great teams. And that's the obstacle. Now think about this. That's the obstacle.

New England's first seven games, Joy, this is a real thing. They will have the worst quarterback in their first seven games. All seven. Their first seven games, the trading deadlines, the eight. week. The first seven games at Seattle, at Kansas City, at the bill, San Francisco, Denver, they could lose all those. Two and five. They're two and five after seven. Trading deadline

comes. How do you ensure you stay up with the Raiders? You trade Stefan Gilmore, a Dante High Tower. Skarnikia just retired, Brady Gronk gone. They don't have skill weapons. players. This is potentially, as you heard from the music, this is the NFL's worst nightmare, that they get one of the two great college quarterbacks. If you consider there's only six teams in the NFL now that by the end of next year, they don't really have their guy, and that Chicago and Indy are simply too good to be in the top six or seven picks, and that if you buy into Washington being much better defensively and competent at quarterback, as long as Jackson Jacksonville's crappy and gets one.

It's Raiders in New England to get Justin Fields. It's really upsetting. I don't think, I don't, just go look at New England's first seven games. Mahalms, Russell Wilson, Jimmy G, and the Niners, it's just good after good after really good after Super Bowl champ after. And these, what was that, John? People will be happy because they're losing, but long term. NFL trade deadline is after week eight. They are going to go two and five to start the season, and they'll move people.

I'm sorry. I'm not here to give you good news. I am America's honesty, bro. This is what you're looking at. They're going to be looking in Vegas and saying, oh, all right. If the Raiders, let's say the Raiders after seven are like three and four. Let's trade Stefan. You're going to tell me somebody couldn't use Stefan Gilmore at week six.

the best pure corner cover? You can tell me all those NFL teams looking at Patrick Mahomes going, hell, we got to beat Mahomes. Come on down. Cleveland's like, come on, let's go. You're going to tell me in a quarterback league, somebody's not going to need in Week 7, the best corner in the league.

Got a couple draft picks, move up. It's happening, folks. Let's just play the music one more time. I'm here to make you nauseous. Look at Joy. Joy, for the first time in weeks, is not happy with her affable host, Me. I mean, because I feel this, I feel like Belichick has

some evil master plan. Of course he knows. Of course he does. I don't believe he's just like winging it all of a sudden. He's not winged it once in his career. I'm supposed to believe he's just like, all you need is if Dwayne Haskins

is competent in Jacksonville stinks. There you go. Justin Fields. Just put a Patriot jersey on him right now. Seriously. That kid's good. That kid is really good. Here's Joy with the news. No, no, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the Heard Line News. Well, it's no

secret secrets that Baker Mayfield and former Brown's head coach Hugh Jackson had a falling out when Jackson took a coaching position with the Bengals. And when Jackson was asked about his relationship with Baker, he said he's still confused about why it got so bad. I

couldn't tell you. I wish I knew. I didn't coach Baker personally. I was around. when he was doing drills and those type of things. I wasn't always in those particular quarterback meetings. I spent my time over on the defense. I was surprised that that was that way. I was one of the guys that stood on the table and said,

Baker Mayfield should be the quarterback that we draft. I've never had that happen with a player before. I've coached in his league a long time and I've never had a player ever attacked me that way. I've been waiting for Hugh to start talking. We had to wait a little while. What do you make of that? I mean, I think that's, I think there was, there's a lot of dysfunction in the culture of Cleveland.

So it doesn't surprise me that things went badly the way that they did. Obviously, the idea that Hugh Jackson isn't, isn't like loyal because he's coaching for the Bengals is absurd. I mean, that's, there's no other way to, to classify that as just a complete naivity, naive to believe that you have to have some sort of loyalty. to a team that fired you and not go within the same division to get a job. That's just, that's not how, it's not how professional sports works or any profession for that matter. But I don't know. I think, I think that really what we're, what we're seeing from what he has been saying,

like Hugh said that he wanted to bring in Kaepernick and he was forced to draft as Sean Kaiser. Obviously, we know how that went. Terrible. That it's just, this is just a reflection of what went on in Cleveland. I don't think it speaks, like everybody doesn't get along with everyone, right? Like Baker didn't like Hugh Jackson. Hugh Jackson, we saw hard knocks. Like we saw how things went with with Baker Mayfield on hard knocks.

Like just the fact that he had to tell him like he needs to come in early. It's like Baker maybe just wasn't really that aware of how being a professional worked. And I don't, I'm not really like down on Baker for that because he's a young kid and we put a whole lot of pressure on these young guys coming into the league. Now some are obviously way more mature than others. have a completely different work ethic than others. I think Lamar Jackson is a great example of that. He was definitely doubted and put in the work. And now he is, it's unquestioned what his talent level is.

But there's also no question that he didn't have to be told to, like, get to work. Like, you could see it. I think Baker's personality is Baker's a little bit of a divider. Like you're with him or not? Yes. And so I think there's going to be a lot of people in Baker's life that are with him and a lot that are, you know, like Brady is. has been sort of, he kind of just soothes everything. Like, there's no real Brady haters.

You know, you kind of like, acknowledge his greatness or you love him. Yes. You know, Farr was like that. Like, Aaron Rogers even now, like, Farv, you were like, he's awesome or he just kind of, everybody had a cake, he's like lasagna. Everybody kind of likes it. You never meet anybody. He goes, I am against pasta.

Really, it's, that's Brady. Like, everybody's kind of. Baker is much more exotic spicy food. You're willing. it or you're out. Like that's just his personality. I do agree. And I also think that, you know, what happened in Hugh's time in Cleveland was that he, the front office and Hugh were not aligned. Like they didn't give Hugh what he wanted and what he needed. And any time that, that a coach wants a certain thing and the front office is not agreeing with him, it's almost

always failure. But you all have to be on the same page. So the NBA has had to, had their restart plan in place. But some players are hesitant to participate, a group of players, especially for non-title contenders have reportedly expressed their concerns about the Orlando bubble. The NBA and Players Association are working on a plan that would allow players to stay home without consequences, but they would have to sacrifice pay for missed games. I think the stars want to play. I mean, I think the Yonis is Kauai's Paul George LeBronhard. I think they're in.

But boy, Joy, if I'm a bubble team and seven weeks without my family, and that's a big ask. Yeah. I mean, it's also, you're also not going to get paid. So if you're comfortable with that, then look, this is not an ideal situation, right? Like an ideal is not even the right word. What they're being asked to do, go into a bubble, not have like people come see you, not be able to see your family. For some teams, what could go on for two or three months, that is a lot.

And they're going to be watching baseball and football players play in front of fans and at their home stadium. So, you know, I honestly believe this. When you face a crisis in life, like in my, I haven't had many of them with my family, but if I have a mini crisis, you just want to get through it, right? Let's simplify it and get through it. The NBA had a crisis. This is why I always argued for, let's go right to the playoffs, 16 teams, first round is three games.

When you go to 22 teams, Joey, it's more humans, more coaches, more trainers, more bodies, more COVID, more players. more players. And this is, you're getting guys, you're getting teams now at the bottom that are like, well, what the hell are we going for anyway? What's the value in it for me?

Now, those teams are likely not going to be there that long. They're going to go through camp and not either not make the playoffs or not make it past the first round. So they aren't going to be there as long. But it's just, there's also, as we know, there is a mental and emotional health aspect to being quarantined. It's not just physically.

okay like they're not machines you don't just like go play basketball come home stay in your room like that's not realistic for anyone it wasn't realistic for us it just doesn't make any sense you can't be you cannot be that quarantined for that long if we're talking about a month stretch okay

I'm probably be on the league side we're like you know we got to get this done let's all just get together and figure it out but two or three months is just not a realistic ask and speaking of finishing seasons major league baseball is still negotiating with the players on how to start their 2020 season, but despite all of the back and forth, Commissioner Rob Manfred isn't concerned

about eventually getting a deal done. He said he is 100% sure that there will be baseball played this year. I was told last night by a source that I trust inside baseball, they're close. Great. So my prediction is the MLS starts July 8th. I'm going to make a prediction that baseball will start July 10th. Wow. Okay. That's one month from now. So that is my prediction. I believe baseball. Can we, John, are you taping this? Can this be put into the archives?

We are live, so yes. Yeah. So I'm going to make a prediction in 48 hours. This is a source up the ladder. 48 hours, we will have a resolution. I mean, papers will have to be signed and not stuff, but we will be on our way. So they'll have an agreement in place in 48 hours. I'm going to make, so what day is it today?

Thursday. It's Thursday the 11th. Nothing gets done on Saturday. I should probably extend that to Monday. Monday. Yeah. You know, no, I'm not going to. I'm going to go all in on this.

I'm not going to do, you know. How many games for the season, though? It's going to be around 7580, getting in that ballpark. The owners do not want, they want to wrap up the regular season by September 27th. They do not want to play in November. Owners have no interest. They're worried about a second wave of the virus. And frankly, they don't want to play weather in crappy, play baseball and crappy weather.

But if they get a second wave of the virus and it cancels playoff games, that's when owners make their money. Right. Okay, so we'll give you two business days. Yeah, Saturday is not really a business day. I think under these circumstances, people would work Saturday to get it figured out. I think so. So I get, what time is it right now?

It is 1035 Pacific. So by 1035 Pacific on Saturday, we'll have a deal done. Okay. Now, if we don't, I don't lose anything. No, like I can't have chicken for dinner or something. We'll just put it in calling what's wrong. There you go. Yeah, no more cigars.

Okay, that's good. Joy with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Herd Lye News. Rob Parker was trending yesterday, which means he said something that got people all worked out.

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Well, he is a sports contributor at Fox. He does the radio show with Chris Broussard, the odd couple, which is one of the fastest growing radio shows in the country. And my friend Rob Parker is joining us via the Coward Global Satellite Network. Well, let me start with this. The NBA player, some of

don't want to play in Orlando. There's some grumbling going on, and it may be, I read the story this morning. Some of it was there's social justice going on in the country. They want to be part of that. Some of it is they're away from their family too long. Some are worried about the virus. What do you make of some players in the NBA telling the commissioner,

we're not down with Orlando? First, I'm going to say, Colin, good to see you, that remember, this is a Mickey Mouse championship that's going to be taking place down. in Orlando. There's no way in getting around that. But their concerns are real.

I think for people to like poo-poo them and like, oh, you know, stop complaining, you're getting paid, just go down there. If it's not safe for family and other people and fans to be involved, I understand why there's a concern

about that, about that part of it. If it's really about the coronavirus and whether or not they're going to be able to be kept safe. And the idea, Colin, think about it. You want to stay away from your wife for two or three months, not make love to her, not hug your children.

I think that's a lot to ask for people. Yes, they're NBA players, but they're people at first. Yeah. So you got everybody worked up yesterday because CBS Sports ranks Steph Curry as the greatest shooter of all time. I agree. I also think he's the most underrated player in the last decade in the league.

We all acknowledge Kauai is great and LeBron's great and Hardin's great, but nobody will give Steph the love. You are not a Steph fan. I just, this is my problem, Colin. You can't consider somebody the greatest shooter of all time when they haven't knocked down

a signature make in a big spot. Anybody can make those circus shots when it doesn't matter. And I'm not trying to discount his career or say he's a bum or anything like that. But let's just, be honest. He's 0 for 9 with a chance to win a game

at the end in the playoffs in his career. Colin, give me the big shot he made. I'll wait. I'll wait. I'll wait. Because you can't give me one. And that's why I said Steph to me is more like an overpaid Harlem Globetrotter. He makes the circus shots.

He makes all those half courts, all that. But when the time comes and they need a big shot, I'd rather give the ball to Clay Thompson, and I'm telling you all time, I take Ray Allen and Reggie Miller any day over Steph, because if you want to be considered the greatest shooter of all time, you have to make big shots at big situations. Here's the other thing. We've seen guys like this, Pistol Pete Marevich, white chocolate. You know what the difference with those guys were?

Those guys played on bad teams. Think about this. Kevin Durant came to the Warriors, right, Colin? And he took Steph's lunch money and his team. How did he go from Steph is the greatest shooter and one of these great players of all time? KD showed up and won the NBA Finals MVP both years. And Steph is still never won an NBA's finals MVP, which is amazing when you talk about what success they've had.

And the last thing, Steph is the greatest shooter of all time, according to some. Well, how in the world could he have not shot his way into one win when they choked down that three-to-one lead to the cavaliers? Think about it. It had never happened in the history of the NBA. That was the year that they won 73 games.

That was the year they had never lost more than two games in a row. And you know what happened? They lost three games in a row, two of them at home, and Steph couldn't win you one game to cement that all-time great season. I'm not buying. He's the greatest shooter of all time. All right. Well, I still like him.

Let's move to football. I never thought Drew Breeze was the world's best human. And after his tone-deaf comment, I didn't think he was the worst human. The context is he had a great resume of caring and giving. And he made a mistake. And he paid a price for it. But I do wonder, you know, if they go 12 and 4, everything's easy, breezy, and maybe nothing surfaces. But what if they struggle?

What if they underachieve? Do you think Drew Brees going forward has more obstacles to overcome in that locker room? No doubt about it, Colin. And I think you're right. It was the moment where people thought one thing about Drew Brees, about a caring guy, who had committed so much money for New Orleans to try to help people. And then in that one moment, after we had been through this whole thing about it, not being about the flag and the moment of truth,

where we had just seen George Floyd murder. live and in color in front of us. And the first thing out of his mouth was about the flag thing. It just was very insensitive and I think people felt betrayed. It'll be interesting and I think you're right. If the team gets off to a bad time or struggles, it could be bad and people might start pointing the fingers, especially if he doesn't play well. There's a chance he can win him back, which is, of course, doing stuff and of course winning.

Winning covers over and heals a lot of stuff, Colin. You know that. So if they get off to a great start and there ain't no and things are good and he's saying the right things and people are believing back in that he just made a mistake and we can move forward, there's a chance. I'm still going to pick them to win the division. I still like them over Tampa Bay. Colin Kaepernick's been inactive for three and a half years. Quarterback playing this league's never been more dynamic. I'm not sure three and a half years off he can come in and play.

Certainly has the right to try out. What is your guess on if he ever comes back in the league? Yeah, this is the tough spot because you don't know. I think and I really believe he wants to play football because he did show up for that tryout that was derailed. Remember when he wanted to change the location? But Colin, if he didn't want to play, he didn't even have to show up in Atlanta for that. So I do believe he wants to play. He's only 32 years old.

He can be a backup quarterback and if somebody gets hurt. Charlie Batch played like 10 years in Pittsburgh in. that kind of role and every once in a while they needed him and he could come and play. Colin did a lot of stuff early on in his career and you know this. Ron Jaworski went out on a limb and said he could be the greatest quarterback whoever played. You remember those years with the 49. Oh, yeah. And so I get it.

He's 32. He's not 42. Tom Brady's about to start the season at 43 years old. And when you think about it, he hasn't had the beating that most guys at 32 have had because he's had these last three and a half years off, I still think he can play and contribute. Send them down to Jacksonville, right? They'll sell tickets.

You've got the only minority owner there. He's been through trials and tribulations, I'm sure, in his life, it would be a perfect match. And then Jacksonville doesn't have to have three games in Europe, you know, because they'll finally be able to sell some tickets down there with Colin Kaepernick. And I would guarantee it is, whatever team pick up. them up, Colin, they'd have the number one merchandising of jerseys overnight. That's how big it

would be. Well, yeah, I mean, Nike stock's gone up since they embrace Colin Kaepernick. Finally, a couple minutes left. I was told yesterday by somebody I trust within 48 hours, baseball is going to figure this thing out. Your thoughts? I totally agree. We talk about it on my podcast, on the Heard Podcast Network, is called Inside the Parker, drops every Thursday morning. And I talk with Nick Swisher about this. I agree. The players understand where they are. The owners understand Colin. You cannot go 18 months without the sport. It would damage baseball big time, especially people are looking forward. The summer will be great to have baseball. I believe that they get this done over the weekend. And July 10th or so is the opening day. And I can't wait. By the way,

Rob Parker is one of the only people I know he's got a Hall of Fame vote. He'll literally say, I'll say, where are you going this weekend, Rob? And he'll go Seattle. And I'll be like, why? He's like, I want to go watch a Mariners A's game. You're the only person. You know it, Colin. Last year I went to all over the country watching baseball games. He does. Rob Parker, who is now an adjunct professor at USC's journalism program.

Congratulations on all that good stuff. Odd couple with Rob and Chris Broussard. Good talking to you, buddy. Always a pleasure. Thanks, Colin. Yeah, Rob, I'll be like, what are you doing this weekend? I'm going to Minnesota. Why?

I'll watch a Twins Angels game. I'm not you going to fly to a city to watch a baseball game? He's like, yeah, why not? Baseball? are a great time. Oh, no, yeah. I love going to baseball games. Yeah.

Go there and have a couple of pops. A couple pops. A couple pops. I can't drink a couple pops. You can't? I know. You can't have a couple pops? I have like a, well, I guess so a couple is two.

Yeah. It's going to take me a while to get through two beers. Really? Yeah. I mean, I'm a one beer person. I like beer, but I just can't. One beer? I can't drink more.

Yeah, it'll take me like three hours. Do you like those white claws? That's true. I like White Clause, but I'm not going to, like, I'm not crushing White Clause either. Goulet. Was two beers work for you? By one inning. Right. I don't know.

This fills me up. No, I get it. No, listen, you don't have to. Plus, the baseball beers, like, if you're going to buy a beer at a baseball game, like, you don't make it worth your while and get one of the serious ones. My wife puts beer in a cup with ice. She can't drink. No, what's wrong with that?

That's what she does. So my wife, it's weird. She'll be the strangest times. I mean, warm beer is just... Not great. You can't do warm beer, so... Dwight Freeney's going to be a Hall of Famer. He is going to join us next hour.

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Works with Bluetooth. Buyraycon.com. H-E-R-D. Well, he played 16 seasons. many of you remember him primarily with a Colts where he was a seven-time Pro Bowl or he will be a Hall of Famer. There's no doubt about that. And as we were talking during the break, his hometown is a town I lived next to for 10 years and our wives are from the same hometown. So we got something in common here.

Dwight Frini is joining me via the Coward Global Satellite Network. So, you know, Dwight, you were by the end, you're the kind of guy in a locker room that was like almost a coach on the defensive side. like the coaches would, you know, they'd file players to you. You had a leadership role along with being a great player. So we're in a league now with no OTAs because of a virus. The NFL announced yesterday we may only have two preseason games. It feels like if I'm a team like the Jets and I'm young and rebuilding, Cincinnati with a rookie quarterback,

I can't imagine. It feels like there's certain teams in this league, young teams that are going to be at a complete deficit going into the season? Or am I overstating it? And can you catch up in football pretty quick without an OTA and only one or two preseason games? I mean, I think you hit it right on the head. I honestly believe that, you know, the OTAs, the training camps, that is vital for youth development in the league, you know, especially when you have a new system. You know, you have a new system. You don't know, you know, the ends and outs of it. You have to learn that. And sometimes you have to learn.

that through mistakes in practice and being together, the coaching staff, offensive coordinator versus defensive coordinator, try to figure out those little holes of that system, that is a very important. All right? So when you have a veteran team who had the same system, same veteran players, it's a lot easier to go right into a season with limited time.

But when you have a new quarterback fresh into the league and all of a sudden you really can't get together the same, way, it's going to be really interesting to see how they respond. You know, I would say, you know, it's going to be a disastrous, you know, me being a guy who's been around it for that long. It's going to be tough. If people think all of a sudden, you know, you just plug a guy in and all of a sudden that teams are going to take off with this type of off season, it's going to be tough.

You know, it's interesting. What happens if you're Philip Rivers, so you're a veteran, but you're going to a new team. the Colts or Brady to the Bucks. Now, how long do you think it takes a, because you played after the Colts, you were on the Chargers and the Cardinals. So if you're a smart veteran player and you're going to a new team, is it a week, is it a month, is it 12 practices, how long to catch up? I think it just depends on the system, you know, and I think with Philip, it's going to

be a lot easier for Philip, just based on the fact that he was with Frank and the Chargers, they may have this similar type of play calls or something. system. They know each other very well. So I think that is going to be a little bit easier than maybe a Tom Brady going into the box situation with Bruce Aaron's. Now, how long that takes, I think that's all up to the individual. You know, I think based on how he just gets it, grasps it, I think what they'll probably do, though, to be quite honest, is they're going to build things around what they already know. So I think Bruce would already have put stuff in that the Patriots have done to make Tom more comfortable or Tom have more of an intricate role in the design of the offense.

And no different with Phillip. You know, you're living now in Florida. And of all the young quarterbacks, I'm a Tua fan. So I want you to go back to your career. I think Tua in the first week or two, you're going to see him at practice. Word's going to get out. Video's going to get out. And Miami's going to say, let's play him.

We're not winning the Super Bowl. let's just play the dude. And I want you to go back to your career. When you have Peyton Manning and he's new and he's raw, how do players react? Would players rather have perhaps a better veteran quarterback in September or would they rather ride with a new kid who they knew has a much higher ceiling,

but you're going to stumble for six weeks? How do players feel about that? I think this, most teams that I've been on, we're about winning right now. We don't care about a year from now, two years from now. It may not be the same team. You may not actually be on the team by time that actually happens.

So for us players, you know, around, we want to play the guy who is better for the situation right now. We can give to whatever's about the future in two, three years. That's for upper management. That's for the owners.

Those are for maybe some of the coaches to think about development. But when we're playing, we are not trying to develop a player in the middle of this season. Because we also know how short-lived this NFL career can be for some players. It's one play and your career could be over with. And I'm not sitting there thinking about two years down the road. It's a right now type of business. And that's what guys will probably be thinking about is who's better right now. Put them in.

Let's win. You know, like, let's say New England's got Jarrett Stidham. And I always think I've asked players this for years. Nobody can sniff out an imposter faster than players. And let's say you're a Patriot player and Jared Stidham comes in. How many practices would it take for players to look around and go, that's it or that doesn't work? Because you can't fool players.

You can fool me. You can't fool players. Well, the thing is, you're right. You can't fool players, but when you're on a team like the Patriots, where you have a Bill Belichick, who is a mastermind, I always say Bill is he's out there playing chess with other coaches, but he's like a mastermind at chess. He's like a grand master. All right. He is going to put a system in to where as though that whoever that is at quarterback will flourish. Okay.

Now, what does that mean? their passing game might change a little bit. It may be more of a promontid run type of offense where they're running the ball more, running the ball first, and play action later and having simple reads for them. But Bill has been in the league for a long time as a coach. He's been successful for a reason. And I'm sure whoever it is at quarterback, he's going to make them feel as comfortable as he possibly can in that system that he puts in. Dwight Freeney going to be a Hall of Famer.

I've always been a fan of Drew Breeze. I thought he was incredibly tone deaf. But I also think his resume tells me he does care. He is a good human being. If you're in that locker room, do you forgive him? Well, I think it's up to the player. The truth be told is you're out there and you're playing with other players as an employee at a job. Okay.

Do you have to like all your other employees at your job? to get the job done? No, you don't. Okay. That being said, I think Drew, me knowing Drew a little bit, I think he is a good guy, okay? I think he misspoke. I think he spoke too fast. I think his apology of what he stated is he's going to listen more is important and was good for him to say. You know, obviously him being the quarterback for the Saints is important to have one of your leaders on that team to be with the team. So can players, separate that from maybe their personal feelings maybe? Absolutely.

I think they can. You know, will it be as connected as it was prior to the comments? Maybe not. Maybe the players already knew where he stood, you know, prior to. So, you know, we'll see what it is, but I think the players have the ability to separate the two. You know, they have a job to get done. So they understand is that your.

politics or how you feel shouldn't affect how I play with that individual in the game. Dwight, there's never been, and I think this is one of the reasons that Cam Newton has struggled to land a spot is celebrity backup quarterback is not really a thing in the NFL, is that quarterbacks are, they're different. You got defensive ends, corners, receivers, you can have three good ones on a team, and they all get it. Quarterbacks grow up, you're the man or you're not. So celebrity backups, it's just not a thing.

That's why Elway wanted to get Tebow, who was winning games out of Denver. It's just not a thing. So Kaepernick is iconic. He is an iconic person in America. Do you think if he goes to a team, regardless of the three and a half years of inactivity, which is a long time not to play in the NFL? Yeah. Would it be disruptor?

Or is that overstated? That guys would be like, okay, it's a backup. It's fine. Who cares? I mean, how do you think it would land if a good team you were on brought him in? Well, you know what? We've never been in this situation. You know, I think this is new times and times are changing.

And I think, you know, Cap, he deserved to be in the lead still. You know, I don't know, you know, a starter based on the system. You know, he's maybe not the best dropback passer throwing dimes quarterback. But you know what? There's schemes that are changing now where, you know, you have a lot. teams who like to run the option, you know, and that ride in the side top of offense where this is where he flourished. Look at the Ravens. So I think there could be a place for him, you know, in the league. Now, what does that mean? Starter backup? Does he all of a sudden

outshine the starter? No one knows, you know, and I know what you're saying. You know, who wants, you know, maybe a quote unquote distraction, but I honestly believe. that the things that Kat brings, you know, socially may not be a bad distraction. It actually could enlighten a lot of things that need to be enlightened. And will that owner, you know, decide to take the chance on doing that? I hope so. Honestly, I think it's needed. You know, I think he's still, I don't know what he, you know, what type of shape he's in

and can he still play right now? And you're right three years of sitting down, not playing, definitely is a big deal. deal. But I think if he can pass that test as far as making the throws and making those decisions, I think he deserves to be on a team, you know, because of the fact that, look, he should have never not been on the team. And I think that he got blackballed in, in a sense, because of all the things that he believes in, um, socially. Yeah, you can certainly, you know, the temperature in the room has changed. You could make a very compelling argument that Kaepernick today would galvanize a locker room. That the place.

players would respect the owner in the front office more. Yeah. I could make that argument today, that it would actually, and I don't think I would have made that argument three years ago with Kaepernick. Yeah. But I think the world's changed. I mean, you're sitting there watching TV like me. I mean, as a black man in America, an athlete, a public figure, how is all this stuff land for you in the last 10 days, 12 days? I mean, it's been real tough, but also on the other side of it, you know, I see change happen.

You know, I mean, you sit there and you watch as a black person in this world. You understand kind of the things that you have to deal with, unfortunately. And now you're seeing on TV, you turn it on, you see peaceful protests, people of all different colors, ethnicities, you know, obviously black, white, Asian, Native Americans, Spanish, all coming together now. and in marching together about this terrible state that this country and this world is in. So, you know, I don't know if that would have happened years ago. It's happening now. And I'm thankful that it is happening now because change needs to happen, you know. And so seeing that, you know, it makes me obviously seeing something that would happen to George Floyd is devastating for him to be murdered the way he was, just period.

but on the other side, seeing how people are coming together makes me feel like there is actually hope for minorities, for black folks out there who feel like, you know, this world isn't for them and the rules don't apply to them. And, you know, who cares? It doesn't matter. There's a lot of people who are behind us right now. So we got to keep this momentum going, hopefully.

What a pleasure it is to talk to you. I don't know if we've had her interviewed before, but I just loved having you on. I admired your game. And please come on again. You're welcome anytime. Yeah, man, thank you for having me. You take care of yourself.

All right, Dwight Freeney. Good stuff. Great player. Thoughtful dude. Joy Taylor with the news. No, no, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news.

So Cam Newton's played in the Super Bowl and won a league MVP, but he doesn't have a spot on an NFL roster right now. And this week, Cam posted some more pictures and video, which we're showing now. I think it matters. Of him working out to show he's healthy and he's ready to play. Foxbet has odds for Cam Newton's team week one of the 2020 season with Washington as the best odds at plus 400. Pittsburgh plus 450. Seattle plus 700.

New England plus 800. Denver plus 800 and Jacksonville plus a thousand. Ron Rivera hasn't completely ruled out the possibility of reuniting with Cam and Washington. And he also thinks Cam is extremely motivated and feels like he has something to prove. I just like the videos. In this day and age, Cam is sending the message. I'm all in. Well, there's something to branding.

I think that Cam has unfortunately and unfairly been kind of pushed into a category of someone who doesn't care about football because his brand kind of became his fashion and his personality. Certainly part of it. His advertisements more than football. and, you know, other athletes have become victims of that as well. I think Baker Mayfield certainly got hammered a lot for doing as many commercials as he did. Not really the commercials with Cam Newton, but just, you know, his personality has garnered some reaction to that. And the reaction has been that he's not serious about football and then on top of that, the injuries and everything else.

I don't know that he'll be on a roster week one if he is planning on being a starter. They didn't have Arizona in those odds, and that's where it feels like to me. I think Arizona thinks it's good enough to compete, and if Kyler goes down, they're not settling for a backup. They're going to go big. I think Arizona's going to go big of Kai. And I'm not saying Kylo's going to get banged out, but he moves around. He's small. He does.

He does. I, again, maintain that Pittsburgh is the right place for him if he wants to be on a roster right now. He does have the ability to wait, and he is a starting quarterback in this league. I think he has a lot of football left in him. But if he doesn't want to be a backup, then waiting until... you know, the season starts and seeing how it plays out, it makes sense. He's going to get a deal next year regardless.

But I just think that Pittsburgh is just a really, they're in such a strange predicament with their backup quarterback situation. Listen, you can't tell me NFL GMs are not seeing this. I don't think this is insignificant. I really don't. I think this is really significant. Not only is Cam working out, he's telling you, I want you to know I'm working out.

I don't think this is insignificant at all. Well, also, there's a lot of questions about his health. So to me, I don't feel like he should have to do this to prove that he cares about football. But as far as his health goes, we do see this. I mean, Tua did this as well when you guys are coming off injury, showing that you, what you're able to do in the gym, which is far above and beyond anything that the rest of us could be doing it in a gym. But I like proof. I tell my wife, don't tell me a love me, show me a love me. And that's why I get flourished for gifts.

So the Cardinals, thinking of the Cardinals, boosted their offensive attack with the addition of DeAndre Hopkins. and his fellow wide receiver, Christian Kirk, is excited about how many weapons they'll have in Arizona this year. He said it'll be a little bit of pick your poison. Defenses are definitely going to have to strategize well going into the week that they play us. I think DeAndre does a lot for us. When you have a guy like that in the field,

you have to pay attention to number 10. It's going to be fun. Yeah, that's not a weakness. They've got weapons. They're good there. They've got to stop people. Right. But I do like what they've done offensively.

I mean, having DeAndre Hopkins, he's right. Having DeAndre Hopkins there keeps the defense honest no matter what. I mean, it opens the field up for guys like Christian Kirk. I think it's so excited to watch them. Yeah, I am as well. Do you know there was a poll taken? I watched more Arizona Cardinal highlights than any broadcaster not living in Arizona in America. I think I saw 14 of their games.

You did become a bit obsessed with them. I'm telling you, Kyler throws a beautiful, the best looking ball in the league. He throws a freaking tight spiral. He throws the most catchable ball in the league. I got a hand to him. He had a lot of doubters and a lot of questions coming into the league. Myself included, I really didn't know if it was going to work. And they proved this wrong.

And he's exciting. And I like the way that they're trending. We'll see what happens this year with the new edition. I miss football. Watching these highlights. I really miss football. I'll be back soon, though. I'll be back soon.

Finally, Patrick Mahomes was one of the NFL players to speak up in support of Black Lives Matter. and he said he plans to continue using his voice to promote positive change. I'm definitely aware. I'm aware of everything. I'm aware of my surroundings. I'm aware of coming off a Super Bowl championship and being the quarterback of a Super Bowl winning team. But I've always believed in people.

And I've always believed in when people do things together and do things for the right reasons and have a good heart when they do it, that things get done and changes, change happens. I'm blessed to have this platform, why not use it? And I feel like as I've gotten older, and I know I'm still young, I've learned a lot. And I think that was one of the things is I know I have this platform. I know not everyone will agree with it, but I'm going to do my best to make the world a better place. And this is the right moment to do it. I'm so proud of all the young stars in our major sports leagues right now.

How lucky are we? Think about this. if I said to you, you know, top eight to ten stars in American sports, you know, like you're Russell Wilson, you're Patrick Mahomes, you're Lamar's, you're LeBron's. You could even do the international guys, Luca. If you really look in American sports right now, at the 10 to 12 great athletes, we have 12 good guys. They're all, they're like, they care about life, they're good people. You know, it's, you know, you could find the best 12 best attorneys in America. There's a couple of schmucks.

You could find the 12 best plastic surgeons. There's a couple of schmucks. You could find the 12 most popular politicians. No thanks. We are so lucky that these 26-year-old kids, these 31-year-old kids, we don't have a bad guy. They're all, like, thoughtful, compassionate. And they're using their platform to make the world a better place. And even without using their platform, they're genuinely guys that take care of their community as well.

I think that, you know, the world is changing for the better. And we're going through a major transition right now globally. It's really nice to see that these guys understand that the power that their voice has. And if they can use it for the positive and reach a massive amount of people, because someone like Patrick Mahomes, as he knows, he realizes the power of his platform. You can't say anything to Patrick Mahomes. There's nothing you can say to Patrick Mahomes. He is the top of the top right now. Well, also, he's not doing it for money or publicity.

Right. He's doing it to help. Like, do you think all politicians are doing it for the right reasons? I don't. Winning re-election. That's not really how politics are set up anymore. It's not the way they're set up. That's why we talk about Mark Cuban.

We're now looking for people that aren't politicians. That's how little regard we have for the industry. It's not even an industry. It's running our country, our government. Joy with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The herd lie.

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Well, it's the end of the school year, so there's all sorts of graduations now. Kids have been pulled out of school. They've done some stuff online. But what happens at the end of the school year is you have those year books and they have the class awards, the class superlatives. And so we're handing out our NFL class superlatives today. Joy, are you ready? I am. For class clown, Rob Garnkowski, Travis Kelsey, George Kittl or Gerald McCoy.

Boy, how did Gerald McCoy get grouped in with these crazy nutbags? I'm going to go George Kittle. He's like Gronk with a wilder side. He's a little, you know what? Like all class clowns, his wiring is just a little off, just slightly. He has a little more rage than Grong. Yeah, that's a great way to put it. He's a less.

Gronk is joyful. He's a maniac. Yes. All right. Cute as couple. Brady and Gronk. Zach and Zeke. Jimmy G.

And Kittle. Or O'Dell and Landry. Very difficult. But you know, Brady and Gronk, they dated for long. And then they broke up. And now they're back together.

So Brady and Gronk. Very cute. You know, we just were so used to them together. We don't know if it's going to last forever. This may be the last year. They're going to go their separate ways. But this is such a cute. Most likely to break up.

Kar and Gruden, Dak and the Cowboys, Rogers and LaFleur, or Stidem and Beckham. The word is Gruden's been... I mean, Balletrachuk. Siddem and Balletchuk, I'm sorry. The word is Gruden's been flirting around a lot.

Some people think he's been cheating. So Gruden has got an eye on somebody else. I think John Gruden Carr is most likely to break up. I think John, just just the word on the street is Gruden is flirting with other people. I think it's just out there. I don't think it's word anymore. Best dancer.

Odo Beckham Jr., Travis Kelsey, Quentin Nelson, or the Seahawks wide receivers. I'm going to probably go Travis Kelsey. He brings it. You know, have you noticed in the NFL, tight ends have really become a thing. Like they're popular. Have you noticed that?

I think they've been the thing for a while, but yeah. I'm going to go with Travis Kelsey. You know, they won the Super Bowl. it's time for, we just have to acknowledge this was the year of the Kansas City Chiefs. It absolutely was. Best facial hair. Brian Fitzpatrick, Gardner Minchew, Aaron Rogers, or Ben Rothesberger.

Well, there's always that one kid that can grow a full beard in ninth grade. I'm going to go Ben Rathesberger, who appears to be hiding a small village inside his beard. He didn't cut it, though. I think. I know he's like he trimmed it. It's still there, but it's not as

unruly as it was before. Best all around. Aaron Donald, Patrick Mahomes, Christian McCaffrey, or Russell Wilson. It's tough, but I think, listen, Patrick Mahomes now is fighting social causes, so I think it's Patrick Mahomes. He added another layer.

I mean, he's the student that's a class president, best athlete, most vocal. I think best all around is Patrick Mahomes. All right, Teachers' pet, that's your favorite. Oh, boy. Sam Darnold, Tua, Carson Wey. or Russell Wilson. Well, I feel like three of the four have been given support in their lives.

I'm going to vote for Sam Darnold because I don't think he's had the support of Russell Wilson or Wens or two at Alabama. And I have, as a teacher, I see all these children and I'm sympathetic to the ones who may have a little tougher ride to school. He has more to overcome. Basically, the entire Jets organization. I thought that you were going to stop talking about Sam Darn. This was the last time. This was the last segment. Most likely to succeed with the new team.

Tom Brady, Teddy Bridgewater, DeAndre Hopkins, or Philip Rivers. I think you and I agree. I can't see Tom Brady failing. It would be a new thing. I mean, everything's perfect for him. He's got the parental structure, the transportation. He's certainly equipped with new weapons. I don't get the doubters of Tom Brady.

They have three tied-eat-e. two great receivers, solve their right tackle, and Todd Bowles will keep games close as one of the great young defensive coordinators in the game. Yeah, I quit that doubting Tom Brady life after the Houston Super Bowl. Rookie quarterback most likely to succeed. Joe Burrow, Tua, Justin Herbert, or Jordan Love? Jordan Love won't play for a while. I'm going to go Tua. I think Brian Flores is the first Belichick coordinator that feels like he's taking about 90% of Belichick system, which I'm, you know, the old.

saying is, borrow from everybody its research. Steal from one person, you're a thief. I think he's borrowing all of Belichick and Josh McDaniels and Robert Kraft, all the little things New England does organizationally. I think Tua is going to have a great career behind a great coach that is really adopting down the line in New England's structure. Most likely to have 10 kids. Philip Rivers.

Yeah. Philip Rivers. Yeah. Philip Rivers or Philip Rivers. I'm going to go Philip Rivers on that. We never voted on that in our yearbook. Most likely to have 10 kids. Yeah, I think that would have not played well, but in my school.

Very big family. All right, most likely to become MVP, Lamar Jackson, Patrick Mahomes, DeShan Watson, or Russell Wilson? Lamar Jackson, his growth from year one to two was phenomenal. He seems to be uniquely focused. And let's be honest, they are completely stacked in Baltimore. They're going to be a very big problem for teams this year. They're not paying anybody, they're not paying Lamar Jackson anything. That's the advantage to dropping in the first round as a quarterback.

You don't make much money, but you get way better teammates. So I think Lamar Jackson, I have the Ravens winning the Super Bowl. I think Lamar Jackson's going to be the MVP as his trajectory goes up. And you said you were the best athlete in your yearbook. Most athletic. I just remember what I was. I think it was called class cut up. So yeah, so class clown.

I cannot see you is that. Really? No. I mean, that's backwards hat guy. All disruptive, bugging the teacher. Well, I wasn't a brown noser. I was jockey, but not the most jockey. Yeah.

Wasn't going to win the handsome thing. So, you know, you get down to about three other awards. Wasn't the best student. All right, everybody, great job. Joy, thank you. John, thank you. We'll see you tomorrow. Friday.

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