The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Richard Sherman Podcast - 49ers-Seahawks REACTION: Seattle destroys San Fran & Bills-Broncos ends in controversy | Richard Sherman Podcast

Episode Date: January 19, 2026

Richard Sherman shares his excitement over an explosive Saturday Divisional Round, where the Seattle Seahawks completely dominated the San Francisco 49ers from start to finish, delivering one of the m...ost lopsided playoff performances of the year. Sherm breaks down how Mike Macdonald’s defense dismantled Kyle Shanahan’s offense, forcing turnovers, shutting out the 49ers in the end zone, and physically imposing its will in every phase of the game. Meanwhile, Kenneth Walker powered the Seahawks' offense with a massive three-touchdown performance, and Sam Darnold did exactly what was needed in a commanding playoff win. Seattle’s “Dark Side” defense sends a bold message to the NFL as the clear Super Bowl favorite heading into the NFC Championship. Sherm also reacts to the wild Bills vs. Broncos matchup, including Josh Allen’s late-game heroics, Bo Nix’s injury, and the controversial overtime call that ended Buffalo’s season.   All lines provided by Hard Rock Bet. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:28 and dismembered the San Francisco 49ers in a dominant performance in Seattle. And we'll start with that game. From literal beginning to end of that game, the Seattle Seahawks dominated. Started off with a 95-yard, Rashid Cheheed touchdown. The Pro Bowler comes through, breaks a tackle,
Starting point is 00:02:48 gets down the field, scores the first touchdown of the game, and sets the tone for the entire game. The San Francisco 49ers never scored touchdown in the game, never recover, and they have a huge problem. They have a huge Mike McDonald problem. Kyle Shanahan has not historically coached well versus Mike McDonald coached teams in the last two games
Starting point is 00:03:10 were an absolute masterclass by McDonald with the pressures that he brought, disguises, the coverage adjustments. Nick Emin Worry, Nick M. Worry, a little bit more of Nick MN. Worry and this defensive line gave the San Francisco 49ers fits all game long. And one thing I liked in this game that I saw from Clint Kubiak in this offense is they targeted Rashid Shaheed deep. They didn't hit on the pass, but they targeted them. Again, just put it on tape for defenses to understand what they're dealing with. But we'll start with the San Francisco 49ers, and they just had no answers.
Starting point is 00:03:48 I mean, they got beat in every single phase in a game offensively. It was inept. Christian McCaffrey got beat up. The Seattle Seahawks defense was swarming and hitting every. I love great defense. I love great defense. And the Seattle Seahawks defense put on an absolute masterclass. If you're a defensive player like I am, you watch that with enjoyment and love because they were running and hitting. Everything else is fine. Be a Simon Sound and all that. But at the end of the day, imposing your will physically on another team in the playoffs, a division opponent,
Starting point is 00:04:25 setting the tone, play in and play out with something you love to see. Ernest Jones with the interception, and then you got the forced fumble, multiple fumbles in the game for this San Francisco 49ers team, and the Seattle Seahawks forced it. They just took the ball from Jake Tonges early in that game. It didn't matter what situation they were put in. They were going to be dominant. They were going to set the tone.
Starting point is 00:04:49 They were going to put on a show, and that's what they did. They talked to talk and they walked to walk. They said it was going to cut the long. They was going to cut the lights out and it was going to get dark. And this was going to be the dark side. And boy, it got super dark in Seattle that night. It was a joy to watch. You can give credit to a lot of people because it was a collective effort.
Starting point is 00:05:08 The secondary covered well. We talked about Nick. We talked about the interception Ernest Jones had in the second half. But the corners covered well. Josh Job, just consistent. Witherspoon, consistent. Julian Love, consistent. Kobe Bryant came back, brought some attitude and some smack out there.
Starting point is 00:05:30 The D-line, Leonard Williams, penetration, got him a big sack in a critical moment. I think it was on a fourth down. Jaron Reed, consistent in a run game. They just would not give, and they're so deep. Byron Murphy, DeMarcus Lawrence, relentless effort, each and every play, each and every down. It was such a great performance, a well-rounded performance, and a stat that you've got to know. Mike McDonald coach defenses have allowed a combined zero points in the second half as a head coach or DC. Obviously, this is the first playoff game as a head coach, but even as a DC of the Baltimore Ravens, zero second half points.
Starting point is 00:06:14 This is one of the highest scoring offenses in the league in the San Francisco 49ers, one of the best coordinators, the best offensive minds in the National Football League. They played them back to back. That's why I thought this game was going to be close. Back to back, both teams got time prepared. Both teams feel good about the game plan, just battling it out in Santa Clara two weeks ago, and it didn't matter. It did not matter.
Starting point is 00:06:45 Mike McDonald made adjustments. Kyle Shanahan was unable to make the adjustments, unable to get his personnel in positions to be successful. They were unable to execute. it cost them. And you could see the mentality and the mindset of the Seattle Seahawks when they got up. There were times this season where they would get up really early and really big in a game and they take their foot off the gas, get a little sloppy in the second half, give up a couple touchdowns, a couple first down, some leaky yards. But you could see that there was an obvious effort.
Starting point is 00:07:15 There was a concerted effort to keep the foot on the gas, keep a foot on their neck. And that's what they did. They only gave up six points in his ball game. They refused to give the San Francisco is a touchdown to rent a touchdown at any point in this game. They banged up Christian McCaffrey. They banged up Brock Purdy and they just set the tone. They said they really, really set the league on notice that this, this is a frontrunner for the Super Bowl. This is, there are very few scenarios where I could see them not getting to Santa
Starting point is 00:07:51 Claire. They have to play the winner. They get an extra day of rest. after a week off. And the whole initial conversation before this game, for me, from everybody else, was, hey, how's Sam Darno going to look? And they didn't ask Sam Darnold to do a whole lot in this game. He only threw the ball 17 times.
Starting point is 00:08:11 And he didn't throw it very far. He didn't have to push the ball down the field very often. And they won by 35 points. So that's a successful game. When they asked him to push the ball down the field and be at, There was a play in the game where he took a sack. I think it was second and 17. He drops a dime on the sideline to Cooper Cup right after a beautiful layered football
Starting point is 00:08:40 on the San Francisco 49ers sideline to set up the next score. And I think that showed, hey, he's healthy enough to push the ball down the field. They clearly didn't want to do it a ton. Kenneth Walker had a fantastic game, 19 carries for 116 yards and three touchdown. And his development and maturation within this system this year has been incredible. And it's been a godsend for this offense because it changes everything. It changes the play action game. It changes it's the way you want to play if you have a great defense.
Starting point is 00:09:20 You want to be able to run the ball consistently, get three, four yards to pop, control the clock. not put your quarterback in harm's way, especially when you know he's a little banged up and may need a little bit more time to heal up. You just say, hey, turn around, handing this ball off, and we'll keep him honest with the past game, check it down, get it out your hands quickly when we ask you to.
Starting point is 00:09:40 But a beautifully put together game plan by Clint Kubiak and this offensive staff, Kenneth Walker, they found the lanes and the style that he likes to run, the runs that, the plays that he likes to have, called and they executed them. Charbonnet only had five carries in this game because they've stayed with a hot hand and Kenneth Walker showed, hey, this is a Kenneth Walker game.
Starting point is 00:10:05 The three touchdowns, I think tied the franchise record for a playoff game for a running back. And I think this is going to show the recipe for their success in the future. Run the football, continue to run the football, lean on that defense that creates turnovers, that creates chaos, and allow Sam Donald to do what he does best. Gets the ball out of his hand, be accurate, be consistent, don't put the weight of the world. I think that was a, this is a huge weight off his shoulders, his first playoff win of his career in dominant fashion, especially after everything that happened
Starting point is 00:10:40 last year and the pressure he faced and the scrutiny he faced this all season to return back and have another 14-win season and win the playoff game this time and go to the NFC championship, take his team to the NFC championship, it's been an incredible season. And only in Mike McDonald's second year. I think this leaves the San Francisco 49ers with a lot of questions to answer this all season. What are they going to do?
Starting point is 00:11:08 What answers can you come up with? Obviously, the first thing is getting healthy, getting Nick Bosa back, Fred Warner, McKell Williams back, and then solidifying this offensive. line. I still think you're going to have to be able to move. First off, it starts with preparing for this Seattle Seahawks team and they're going to continue to play. Everything this all season is going to be tailored around finding a way to beat this Seattle Seahawks team and Mike McDonald. And if you cannot
Starting point is 00:11:41 move Byron Murphy, Jaron Reed, Leonard Williams, you're not going to beat this team. So it's going to start with the offensive line and I know this happens every year and we talk about it, but invest, invest, invest in offensive line. You can't move them. You can't beat them. Um, on the flip side. Hey, it's us, the Jonas brothers. And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news? Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast. Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how do we, how do we actually come up with the name Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what
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Starting point is 00:15:09 In Mike McDonald's second year, the Seattle Seahawks could not have asked for more. They could not have asked for better, and they could not be happier with what they got. they hired him because of how fantastic his mind was defensively, how much they saw Kyle Shanahan and McVey coached team struggle against his defense. And who would have thought in his second year? They're in the one seat headed to the NFC championship as the favorite and looking like the Super Bowl favorite in the National Football League. Wow.
Starting point is 00:15:45 I mean, when you hire a guy like this, a guy who's never been ahead, coach. I don't think you could ever expect him in his second year to have this much success, this much impact, but he's done a phenomenal job with not only the scheme that he runs, but the culture of the team, keeping his hand on the pulse of the team, putting the right guys in the building. You got to give John Snyder a ton of credit, probably the exec of the year for this season. The draft classes he's had over the past couple of years, the guys that he's put in place, even the Gray-Zable, how he's transformed this offensive line. that was a lot different and seen a lot differently last year.
Starting point is 00:16:23 They have been fantastic this year and played one of their best games and the biggest moment of the season in this game. He deserves a lot of credit, and I can't wait to see what they do going forward. If you look at the playoff field, if you just look at what's left, we still have some games left. We still have the Houston Texans who have to play the New England Patriots and the winner of that game,
Starting point is 00:16:47 likely is the Super Bowl representative of the AFC, not to put anything against the Broncos, but when you lose your starting quarterback in the last two plays of the game and you move on, it's tough to see you winning that game. It's tough to see them going out there with Stidham at quarterback and going to the Super Bowl and getting a win. Even if they somehow beat the winner of this game, it's a long shot to expect them to be able to beat the NFC champion. So if the Seattle Seahawks can find a way, and it looks like they can, it looks like they have every ingredient that you need to find a win, this is going to be a very fun road to the Super Bowl and through the Super Bowl
Starting point is 00:17:32 for the Seattle Seahawks in their franchise. And going forward, the future is incredibly bright. Obviously, going into this year, you had question marks. How would Sam Darnel be with this team, with a new team, and the Minnesota Vikings letting him go. He's been fantastic. He's answered those questions, obviously. He's answered them with an exclamation point.
Starting point is 00:17:56 The Minnesota Vikings have struggled this year. They don't have an answer at quarterback. I don't know if McCarthy is the answer. He'll have another year. They'll figure that out. But the Seattle Seahawks love what they got in Sam Donald, love what they have in this team, love what their future looks like.
Starting point is 00:18:12 If he can win the next two games, he goes down in Seahawks' lore, and so does the rest of this team. This dark side defense isn't going anywhere for a long time. They got a lot of these same guys under contract. They're going to continue to draft well, and that has to be a nightmare for Kyle Shanahan, Sean McVeigh, the rest of this NFC, the rest of the league, really on the back of their great defense,
Starting point is 00:18:35 their great running game, and their great special teams. The most well-rounded team left in these playoffs, the most well-rounded team in the National Football League, and they're getting better at the right time. They're peeking at the right time. Everything's working for this team. I can't wait to be at the NFC championship game and watch this team and this defense continue to just run
Starting point is 00:18:56 and hit and play discipline football, play with this attitude to keep the city on fire. The stadium was electric, the entire game. I just, I missed that. It was just, you could hear it. It's always, when your ears are ringing after the game, That's when you know this has been a fantastic game and energy was right. We got to figure out who the Seattle Seahawks are playing in the next round.
Starting point is 00:19:21 That's what we're going to find out today. I really don't know if it matters because the way they're playing right now, I mean, not many teams can deal with what they're playing with. But I can't wait to see what it's going to be. It's been fantastic NFL football. But now we've got to move on to the Broncos Bills game. That was electric. early on it looked like Denver was running away with it
Starting point is 00:19:44 right before the half Denver had had the ball they go down and score a touchdown Buffalo gets the ball back Josh Allen is a little bit careless with the football late in the second half there was only 20 30 seconds to go but they thought they could get some points he fumbles the football gives the Broncos the ball back they kick a long field goal and they go up 10 quick points before the half And in the playoffs, that's usually a backbreaker.
Starting point is 00:20:13 That's usually a backbreaker. They come out after the half, they get another three. Now they're up 13. Again, it seems like a backbreaker. You're on the road, down 13, against one of the best defenses in the National Football League. That's usually a curtain call for most teams. Not a team with Josh Allen at the helm.
Starting point is 00:20:31 The Buffalo Bills roar all the way back. Get up one point in this game. And then the, the number one seed shows why they're the number one seat. Bo Nix drives the ball down the field, puts them in position, gives his team the lead. You think, oh, okay, that's the end of the story.
Starting point is 00:20:52 That's all she wrote. This game is over. But of course, the Buffalo Bills have Josh Allen, the reigning MVP at the National Football League. He does everything he can to will his team to overtime. Now, this game ended with controversy. It ended with controversy and heartbreak for the Denver Broncos.
Starting point is 00:21:18 I don't think many times you've seen a team probably deal with the emotional roller coaster that this team dealt with at the end of this game. You find a way to win this game. Then you lose your starting quarterback for the remainder of the playoffs. That's about as tough as it gets. And you can tell by how somber Sean Payton was after the game. I'm sure you'll hear more about it this week. But in overtime on the, what could have been the game-winning drive for the Buffalo Bills,
Starting point is 00:21:55 Josh Allen throws the ball up to Brandon Cook's. He looks like he comes down with it, goes to the ground. The ball gets ripped out by the defender, and the defender comes up with the football. Now, as long as I played in the National Football League, the tie goes to the receiver. I mean, as a defender, believe you me, we want to be biased. We want to say, hey, yep, defense. Defense got that one, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I just have never seen it call it.
Starting point is 00:22:22 And they've never given it, called it in my favor. And I talked to a lot of my boys that we're texting, a lot of other guys who played DB in the league. And they're like, bro, I've never seen them call that for us. I've never seen them when a receiver goes to the ground with the football and then you give us a chance to pull it out late, it's never happened. So you can understand how frustrated Sean McDermott was after that game. Such a critical moment in the game, a chance for his team to move on to the ASC championship. And it ends on a play that almost feels routine in the National Football League. The tie goes to the receiver.
Starting point is 00:23:03 It always has. As a defender, I know that. It's going to change the way this game is officiated. If you're saying, hey, they have to complete, they have to show themselves completing the process of the catch on the ground. And if they don't, the defender can take it from them. That's a different game. That's a whole different game.
Starting point is 00:23:26 And I'm sure that's not the way the National Football League wants it interpreted. Because if they do, then a lot of plays are going to end like that. defenders are going to find a way to end up with the football on these contested catches. And obviously, this one was a little bit different because it was a quick transition. Once he hit the ground, it looked like his knee was on the ground, and then the defender rolls out with the football, okay, I hear you. But it was one of the most critical pivotal plays in that football game. And it really actually probably decided the football game at the end.
Starting point is 00:24:03 In the end, it left McDermott really frustrated. Brandon Cook's obviously frustrated. You could see how distraught Josh Allen was after the game saying he had to do more. He had to find a way to do more. And obviously his teammates defended him vehemently and said there wasn't much more you could do. He had four turnovers in the game. You have to say, you have to honestly acknowledge that. Yeah, two fumbles and two interceptions.
Starting point is 00:24:31 but again, they're not there without Josh Allen. And they're not in overtime without Josh Allen. And I think he gave Brandon Cook a good ball and a chance to win that game. And it's heartbreaking because they've went out in a divisional four of the last five years. And that's his legacy right now. He's got the most playoff wins of any quarterback in the history of the National Football League without an appearance in the Super Bowl. And that's not a, that's not a stat you want to have.
Starting point is 00:25:00 That's not a stat you want to keep on your resume and your record because that's going to be the conversation the entire offseason. Like without Patrick Mahones in the playoffs, without Lamar Jackson in the playoffs, without Joe Burrow in the playoffs, without all these powerhouses in the playoffs with these young quarterbacks and really aggressive defenses, Josh Allen was still not able to even make it out of the divisional. That's going to be the conversation, fair or unfair. And going forward, he's played at a high enough level to keep himself in the conversation for top five quarterbacks. But whichever young quarterback gets himself further in the playoffs and helps his team get to the Super Bowl. There's going to be a new Super Bowl champion. Unless the Rams find a way to beat the Bears, then, you know, Stafford could be a repeat. but if the Bears beat the Rams, there's going to be a quarterback in the Super Bowl that's never been there.
Starting point is 00:25:59 It's going to be potentially two quarterbacks in the Super Bowl that have never been there. And for neither of them to be Josh Allen with the way the playoff field shuck out is a disappointment for the Buffalo Bills franchise. And obviously, I don't think this is one of the better teams the Buffalo Bills have fielded in recent years, but it should have been enough with Josh Allen to at least make an AFC tie. title game, but they didn't. They beat a really good Jacksonville team. They gave themselves a chance to beat the number one seed, Denver Broncos in Denver. They didn't pull it out. And that's, that's going to be a tough pill to swallow for a long time for the Buffalo Bills and Josh Allen, because who knows the next time they're going to be putting this position. Obviously, the,
Starting point is 00:26:42 the chiefs aren't going to be down forever. The Joe Burrow and T. Higgins and Jamar Chase aren't going to be down forever. This Houston team is only getting better. Jacksonville is going to only get better, and it just seems like they're stagnant. I don't think they fire McDermott are doing anything crazy like that, especially this deep into the hiring cycle. But I don't know what you do. I don't know where you go from here if you're to Buffalo Bills.
Starting point is 00:27:13 I don't know what decision there is to make to get you out of this hamster wheel of stagnant behavior for your football team. Do you go all out on defense? I think they've done that before. Do you go all out and get you some elite receivers? Not just one. You had Stefan Diggs for a little while. Do you get multiple elite receivers and say, hey, we're going all in on these elite receivers? And that's how we're going to get this done with our superstar quarterback. You got a great running back in James Cook. He's been fantastic. He had 24 for 117 in this game. but obviously the fumble that he had early in this game was a backbreaker. No question about that.
Starting point is 00:27:52 He hasn't fumbled off in this season, but that was a huge mistake in a pivotal moment. But where do you go? Where do you go? And if you're the Denver Broncos on the flip side, you just lost your starting quarterback. You just lost your starting quarterback. You have one of the best defenses in a national football league. you're in the AFC championship and you got a week. What do you do?
Starting point is 00:28:25 Do you call Drew Brees? You can't call Drew Brees. I mean, I don't put nothing past nobody in this day and age. I mean, Philip Rivers ain't played in five years and he got a call and he started in the National Football League a week after their quarterback guy. I don't put anything. Call Drew Brees. Forget it.
Starting point is 00:28:46 Sean called Drew Brees. Matt Ryan is the president. president of the Falcons. Call him that to. I mean, I don't, can you trade for James? What can they do?
Starting point is 00:29:01 What can they do? Because I don't think you, I don't think you start Jared Stenham. I guess you have to. He's been there three years, but is Tom? Is Tom, is Tom's too?
Starting point is 00:29:12 I'm not sure what you do if you're the Denver Broncos. I don't think you start Stidham, though. You have to right now. He's penciled in as the starter. But if you're Sean Payton, you're on the phone with everyone, everybody who's played in the national football league
Starting point is 00:29:34 in the last two, three, four, five years. Can you find somebody a veteran to come in and give this team a chance? Because I'm not sure they would feel like they have a chance with Stenham at the quarterback spot with him in the lineup. And let me check for availability of some of these guys because I just, who would be left? You know what's incredible?
Starting point is 00:30:04 Even after Jared Stidham, you have nobody else. Like, Sam Ellinger out, Bo Nix is out, so you have no backup for Jared Stidham. You have to bring in a veteran to be on a practice squad. Who do you bring in? I'm going to leave it to the chat. You guys tell me, who would you bring in if you're the Denver Broncos?
Starting point is 00:30:25 You got a week before you got. to play in the ASC championship game and you have no quarterback and you have no backup to Jared Stidham. Do you bring in an old veteran that you know can play this game at a high level and try to give him a chance in a very tough situation or do you let Jared Stidham play and bring the guy in and see if he can maybe back this guy up? These are some unprecedented situations that people are being put in. And it's a tough space to navigate.
Starting point is 00:31:02 But with what the Indianapolis Colts did with Philip Rivers and not to say that he had the ultimate success, but he did a pretty good job. He did a pretty solid job. And you know that a veteran quarterback would do a pretty solid job. Hey, Fitz, Ryan Fitzpatrick, can you still loosen it up? Somebody got to loosen their arm up. Because I don't think you just go in there with Jared Stidham right now.
Starting point is 00:31:27 I just don't see it happening. I don't see that being the end-all, be-all for the Denver Broncos. I think there has to be Sean Payton with how crazy he is and how great of an offensive mind. I don't think he just goes quietly into the night. I'm sure he feels like with, hey, Jared has been here for three years. He knows the system. We can get it done with him. And that's what he'll sell his team.
Starting point is 00:31:50 But there has to be a safety blanket, a security blanket. Somebody out there you can call. I wonder who that is. I wonder who that's going to be. That's going to be the question. That's going to be a conversation all week for the Denver Broncos. If they're going to give themselves a chance, there's somebody they need to call.
Starting point is 00:32:07 And maybe I'll do another podcast once they do it, or maybe I'll do some deeper dive into these research and figure that out. But I wonder what that's going to be. But great win for the Denver Broncos. Getting back to the T.EFC championship is a huge deal. Congratulations to them. Congratulations to my Seattle.
Starting point is 00:32:27 Seattle Seahawks and what they've been as spectacular as they've been all season. And in their biggest moment, they played their best. And that dark side defense continues to turn the lights out on these offenses. And I can't wait to see them do it in an N.S.C. championship game. I'll be there in the stadium. The late game on Sunday night, they get an extra day of rest. They get another week to prepare. And I can't wait.
Starting point is 00:32:50 We get to see how these games shake out. I want to see who their opponent's going to be and how they match up and how they measure up. because right now there's nobody measuring up to the Seattle Seahawks in a meaningful way. And I love it. See you next time. As always, you could be anywhere in the world, but you're here with me and I surely do appreciate it. I'll see you next time. Hey, guys, it's us.
Starting point is 00:33:16 The Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick. And guess what? We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it.
Starting point is 00:33:25 We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being. ask questions. Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it, but, you know, tired and sick. Tired and sick. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it.
Starting point is 00:33:43 Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smigel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes.
Starting point is 00:34:05 Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and friends on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Winning on Clay is an art. The rallies are relentless. And at the French Open, only the toughest survive. I'd know. I competed there for decades.
Starting point is 00:34:23 Join me, Renee Stubbs, on the Renee Stubbs tennis podcast for no nonsense breakdowns of the biggest matches, the toughest players, and the moments set to find Roland Garros. She's a good to win. She's an outsider to win the French name. And she likes Clay. Listen, Lernerabakina is arguably the best player in the world right now and I actually can win on any surface.
Starting point is 00:34:41 Listen to the Renee Stubbs tennis podcast on the IHartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of IHart Women's Sports. I'm Joey Dardano. And on my new podcast, Hope from a Hypocrite, I'll be changing lives, helping people in need with thoughtful solutions. psych! I'm a comedian! I'm not qualified to give good advice. Join me and my comedian friends as we riff, rant, recommend some of the most legally dubious advice known to me. This is Help from a Hypocrite,
Starting point is 00:35:11 the worst advice from the dumbest people you know. Listen to Help from Hypocrite Wednesdays on the IHart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an IHart podcast.

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