The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Richard Sherman Podcast - Bears’ Jaylon Johnson on Rams Divisional showdown, Packers comeback & Caleb Williams

Episode Date: January 17, 2026

Chicago Bears CB Jaylon Johnson joins Richard Sherman to break down Chicago’s wild playoff comeback win over the Green Bay Packers, the mindset behind the Bears’ dominant second-half defense, and the confidence that comes from winning do-or-die games. Johnson dives into his first playoff win, playing through injuries, the impact of veterans in the secondary, Al Harris’ ball-hawking coaching style, and what makes Chicago’s defense thrive under pressure. He also previews the Bears’ Divisional Round showdown against the Los Angeles Rams, detailing how to slow down Matthew Stafford, Puka Nacua, and the Rams offense with disguises, physical coverage, and timing disruption, while sharing insight on Caleb Williams’ leadership, clutch fourth-quarter play, and why the rookie quarterback continues to rise on the biggest stage as the Bears chase a deep postseason run.   All lines provided by Hard Rock Bet. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We got an incredible guest cornerback of the Chicago Bears. Jalen Johnson, appreciate you joining me, brother. Yes, indeed. Cardiac Bears. Cardiac Bears. Boy, I tell you what. Tough, tough. Y'all, what I'll say is when you own the team,

I'm sure, like the feeling of ultimate, you know, almost like the roller coaster. It makes you feel almost invincible because you keep getting you guys' selves in situations like this, but you always get yourselves out of them. So does it give you guys a sense of confidence and a sense of reassurance that, hey, regardless of how it looks at the beginning, we can pull it off? Yeah, 100% is crazy because, I mean, every time we go into the game, of course, it's start fast. Let's not put ourselves in those positions. And somehow or some way we end up in the damn positions anyway. So it's been really crazy for us because, I mean, that's, we, we preach not being in those positions. But, of course, when we do get in them, we have the poison and confidence to get ourselves out of it.

But it's definitely not ideal for us. Well, this has been a great year for you guys, your team overall. Obviously, you got a little banged up, but you came back. How are you feeling now? I mean, every week is a fight. I think really just continue to talk about it and just be open about it. But I've nowhere near close to my full self. and feeling comfortable.

I mean, I've told Chadden them the other day, like, man, I've been taking numbing shots and all these different things to just try to halfway be out there, trying to finish practices throughout the week, and just really just fighting. So, I mean, for myself, it's just getting back to being comfortable as best as I can. I mean, putting in extra work, of course, outside of the facility to get myself the best chance to succeed. But, I mean, I'm feeling better. I'm getting better. And that's all I can ask for right now.

Just continue to strap up and get my team a chance to win. That was your first playoff game. or first playoff win. Tell me how that felt. I mean, it felt great. I think it's funny because it's a long time as I haven't been able to get there. It felt good.

It felt natural. It felt something that I'm used to doing. I mean, I've always been a winner at heart. But just to be able to have it come to fruition in that way, in that form and that facet, it definitely felt really good. And, you know, I've dealt with it before. Just playing a division team in the playoffs. It's so much familiarity.

It's so much, so many underlying, like, little rivalries. and like little animosity, you know, they talk about my little, you know, one time. Yeah, now you're good. But talk about that and talk about just playing the Green Bay Packers for a third time for such a, you know, for a winner go home kind of a deal. No, I mean, it was to the point, it definitely gets spicy. It definitely gets a little more, more than just, I would say, the winter go home. I think it between, of course, receivers and d'Bs, it's always personal,

but you felt that a little more, I would say, out there on, on some. Saturday. So just continue to battle, continue to fight. But really just taking a personal, I think that was the biggest thing, especially for us on defense, coming out in the second half and just taking a personal, then putting up 21 points in the first half. I mean, it was almost 210. That's normal. You give up the sticks on that. So for us, it was just, man, take a personal. We ain't had nothing but fighting. It's that whole second half. So what was that conversation like in the locker room at halftime? Because I've been part of that, those conversations. We were down 16-0 NFC championship against Green Bay,

and boy, it was serious in there. It wasn't panicked, but it was-a-100-per-set. Get it tight. It was definitely that. I think, too, I mean, you want to get in there and this. Come on, guys, you got a-da-da-da. And it's like, that talk ain't going to help us win right now. Because, I mean, we came into the game talking hype

and going over all this, going over that. But talking doesn't help you execute. And I know for us on defense, we needed to get out there and have our eyes in the right spot and execute. And truthfully, when I won-on-on-on-ones. because, I mean, we didn't do it enough. And then we had some bad eyes in a situation where we give up some touchdown and things like that.

So it's really just calming down, slowing down, and then going out there and just attacking and playing aggressive. Yeah, I think the perfect playoff, like, vibe and mindset on the field is right between. You know what I mean? It ain't the hype, you know what I mean? Running around and screaming, but it's not the like too calm, two points. It's, hey, indicators, indicators, indicators, then it's fly. Not yet.

Minutes go. 100%. Yeah, so as soon as I get my indicators bang, this, that, I'm here, we communicated. Now I'm flying with my hair on fire, and that's what it looked like y'all did in the second half. No, that was the biggest thing for sure. I know, KB, he's been around and being in these big-time games, and the biggest thing he was saying is, man, we got to just execute.

We got to get our eyes in the right spot and not just talking and doing all that for hoorah. And that was something that I definitely took him. It was like, okay, let's just keep fighting. Just keep fighting. And then slowly, but surely we start chipping away at the bid. We start getting stops. We start building confidence, and then the table started to turn in our favor. Well, I want to talk about KV.

You got another all-pro this year, and it's late in his year. People thought he was done, and he turns it around and has one of the best years of his career. Talk about the impact that he's had in the balance and calm that he brings to the back end. I mean, he's been a blessing, I think for me just not a course on the football side, but just as man-to-man, just being able to be around him, talk to him, get to know. him. He's definitely been somebody that has made a huge impact on our room, on myself, and some of our younger guys, just how he goes about handling business. And then, I mean, even just taking care of your body, I know he put me on to some of his IV people and just different ways that he

takes care of his body. And I didn't know this until a few weeks ago. Like, he'd never miss the game. So just like little things like that, it's like, hey, you've been regimented for so long. You've been doing these things for so long. You can really not do anything but take notes in to really listen and see why he is the way that he is. And he's definitely been somebody that I've loved to be around. But first and foremost, I mean, he's in telling the guy the IQ is off the charts, and he's moving really well. I know just talking to him, he doesn't feel like the age that he is

and the years that he's played. So he's definitely trending in the right direction. And unexpectedly, for a lot of people and a lot of teams, not really knowing what he'd be. But he's still like that, obviously, as you can see. Yeah, he's still getting it done at a high level. And young Nashon has. found his foot to a degree and got his hands on some footballs and that's been really cool to see.

Have you done any mentoring of him and how have you guys' conversations been in the locker room and on the field? No, honestly, not too much because, I mean, again, I've been out for some time and been in the beginning of the year during camp. I wasn't really there. And then, of course, excuse me, after surgery, not really being around too much. And then when I do come back, he's already who he is and made all the plays that he's made. So, I mean, for me, it's just more so just supporting him.

that. I know when I first got back, I was telling, hey, bro, you playing good football, you're making good plays on the ball, just supporting him in that row. I don't want to be where, oh, I'm out and I come back and it's all he hate. Like, nah, it's nothing, but love, you love to see good cornerback play regardless of the situation and what it is. So that's really been the biggest thing, just making sure that we all on the same page, I see things, how he sees it, or how do you play, what makes you do certain things. But really just building off of each other from, from that perspective. And I mean, even now, being on the same field together, just continue to encourage each other. But hopefully he's here next year, so that relationship can continue to build.

I thought he was going to get that book when he went up with one. But I said, if that's a receiver getting grabbed by a DB, like that, they call PI. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you ain't going to call the offensive PI when he clearly got the position to catch the football. And he over here getting his neck grabbed. I said, boy, it's just bites. It's a life, life of a DB. Life of a DB.

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Presented by Capital One, founding partner of IHeart Women's Sports. And speaking of life of a DB, talk about Al Harris, because he's had impact. Everywhere he goes, the DB is getting getting the football. He was in Dallas, and they break the record for pick sixes. And Trey get 10 picks in that year. And then he comes here, and you guys lead the league and interceptions and try. turnovers. What is it about him and what he's coaching that makes it, I mean, so special? The biggest thing is you get what you emphasize, and I know he emphasizes it almost too much

to a point where we, in the DB room, debating on certain plays, I don't know if we could have got a pick, and just different things like that. Anytime you drop or have a misapportune, you got to pay. So I think for us, it's just, yeah, we just emphasize the ball a whole lot, and he just breeds and pours confidence into yourself to where it's like, yeah, you made a good playing a ball, but how can you get an interception? How can you pick it? And for us, as DBs, of course, it's always just get the ball on the ground. But for him, it's no how can we get the ball.

And then also, too, just his IQ as well, I would say is it talked about enough? Of course, people don't know what all goes into that. But definitely how he sees quarterbacks, how he sees schemes, how he sees route stems and different things like that. He's very knowledgeable on that. and he definitely helps guys get to the ball with the right reads. Yeah, it's been evident. It's been evident.

And it's a tough matchup this week with Stafford and Puka and Devonte, of course. What are you guys doing or what are you seeing on tape that, you know, helps you feel confident? Obviously, Matt Stafford is the leading candidate for MVP of the league this year. But, you know, there have been games he struggled and he's gotten got. and Carolina seemed to have a good plan. What did you see from their tape that helped give you a little bit of confidence going into this week? I think really the confidence just comes. I mean, again, everybody, every dog can have his day.

And I think for us as one of those teams where you just have to get guys uncomfortable, get them off their spots. I mean, if you let any quarterback better than yet, Matthew Stafford, sit back there and be comfortable. It would be a long day. But I think also, too, disrupting timing, getting in certain windows. We know they like to do a lot of end breakers. That's really what they do. But also, too, you got to stand up in your one-on-ones as well with Puka and Devante at times.

And I would just say giving different disguises and different looks too, because if you sit in one high all game, it would be easy to figure it out and you sit in too high. That's easy. So I think disguises, matchups, getting in certain windows, disrupting timing, and then also getting on the quarterback as well. No question about it. No question about it. You guys have been a little different with Dennis Allen than you were with Iberflutes last year. but it's still, you know, still just as effective. How has that been for you just trying to adjust to a new system and new scheme

and coming back from the injury and all the stuff that's going on? Honestly, it's been, at first it was kind of difficult, more so the terminology, some of the rules within the coverages and things like that is always, I would say, the hardest. But after a while, I mean, for us, it's so, I would say, matchy in a way where our cover threes were more so matching, our quarters is more so matching. So really, for me, it's not, as long as they're split out wide, I mean, it's pretty simple. It's really me, me and him.

So I think for the most part, it's been simple. But again, just trying to, that first year of getting all those rules down, everybody getting on the same page with certain things. And, of course, when you go through the Shanahan tree and the McVeves and all that, the motions tend to always mess with your rules as they know. So really just things like that, you can never, I would say, figure all of that out all the time as you're constantly adjusting to the types of motions and different motions that teams like that are doing.

So we're figuring it all out together as a unit. But overall, for me, I got it down. I'm sure having that game against San Francisco and, what was that, week 15, 16, whatever it was, is going to help you guys in this week and help you prepare. Because obviously, they're not the exact same offenses, but you can feel their cousins. A lot of similarities, yeah. They're definitely cousins. We got to talk about your fit. Let's do it.

That boy came in there with the big roses, the all red, the red, the red cowards. Our boy, what went into it? Boy, it looked good. You look good. Hey, I appreciate it. I mean, honest, I think for me it's just, I always just want to make a statement with my looks. I think I never want to blend in. I never want it to be where, okay, yeah, I've seen something like that before.

And too, I kind of wanted to be a head scratcher because I know a lot of things I wear, a lot of people wouldn't dare to wear. So I think really just for me, it's just part of who I am and my personality and just being bold and stepping out and being confident in that. But, I mean, my guy, my style has been doing a heck of a job. I would say since I've returned, we've been putting a lot of good looks together and looking to keep that up throughout these playoffs and should hopefully get to that bowl so I can really step out. Yeah, yeah, I'm looking forward to seeing a fit this week. Any previews, anything we should be looking for or looking forward to? No, I can't get the previews on the fit, man. Just got to just got to pop out and see.

Okay, we're going to, I'm going to keep an eye on it because it's going to be the game. You know, it's the playoffs. Everybody watching. It might be your last. It might be your last. It's do or die. Did you feel that in the game or did you get lost in it? No, no, no, I mean, when you're down 21 or 3, you definitely go feel that for sure.

But I think really just for me the whole time, it was just like, man, we can't go home. Just every time we got back to the island, we're not going home. We not go home. Excuse me. I think that was the biggest thing just for us to just continue to fight and realize where we were and what is going to take for us to get back on track. And shit, I was fighting. Yeah. And I think sometimes those moments kind of define you and they help you grow as a defense, as a team.

because you're like, hey, back against the wall, who really ready to rock? And that was a song we used to listen to all the time. But that was cool. That was cool. You and Christian Watson had a moment after the game, you know, where it looked like you just was over there telling him, keep his head up and encourage him. What was that about? I mean, really just that.

I mean, of course, I prayed for him when he got injured last year at the end of the season. And then just really just seeing him come back the way that he did. I know a lot of major injuries sometimes can make guys come back different or not move the same. but he's definitely been coming, he definitely came back and was moving good and doing this thing when he got back. So I just wanted to really just tell him that I'm proud of him and that guy got his hands on him and just continue to do what he's been doing and progressing the right way.

Yeah, he's done it. He's done a fantastic job. You guys have done a fantastic job. Your head coach, Ben Johnson has been fantastic. But I know you've seen these handshakes in the controversy. What are you thinking about? He buying into his rivalry, boy, I'll tell you what. I love it.

I mean, for me, it's like, we always have, I mean, even I've seen it today. I was thinking back, like, he came into it, talk about Matt LaFleur. Like, he didn't talk about Kevin O'Connor. He didn't talk about Dan Campbell and nobody. He specifically talked about LaFloor. And it's like every player, I would say, has that hidden robbery with somebody that they go against. And I think for him, it may be LaFleur. So, I mean, I feel like it just added to the robbery, but there's no way he just has smoked with buddy just because of the robbery.

I think it's a little something. something else that was brewing beforehand. But I mean, I like it. And then you don't have to show all this love to everybody that you go against competing. And I mean, sometimes it's bad blood and that's okay. I mean, I'm sure. And you, I would say you still see the respect that that's there. But I mean, I don't, you don't always have to show love as a competitor. No, you can have bad blood. I think we in a day and age where people are so like, like, it's so like conflict adjacent. Like nobody really wants no conflict. This is a conflict sport. Like the most conflict, yeah.

The most conflict. I don't really have to, you know, there's good sportsmanship and you can ask sportsmanship. We shake hands after the game. It don't mean it has to be sweet. It can be real life. The nature of our sport isn't about love, for sure. Right. And the nature of our position is really a lot of smoke. Like you're trying to embarrass me at the core of what we doing.

You're trying to do me wrong. I'm trying to do you wrong. And I'm trying to do your end. And that's what I love about playing defense. It's like I really get to line up and let you know. Like, go ahead and say what you want to say, but you're going to have to come out here. And on some plays, I'm going to have to cover you

and be at your wheel and try to figure it out. Some plays, you're going to have to block and I'm going to manhandle your into the pile. That was it. I love it. I love it. Man, it's going to be a fun game this week. How did you feel, how do you feel Ben Johnson that has done this season?

It seems like from the outside looking in, he's been fantastic, he's been a great motivator. has those sayings in the locker room every single week. He's guided this team to a playoff win for the first time in 15 years. How is it from the inside? I mean, it's really just that. I mean, some people, it's funny we were talking about the other day. It's like, God just put his hand on certain people differently.

And I think he's one of those guys who was just honestly just built for it. I mean, it's like you can have guys that are coaches that come in and they're good motivated, but they're not the best coach or they're not the best teacher. Then you have guys that are great coaches, great teachers, but they're not the best motivated. They're not good in front of the room. He just kind of naturally has both. And, I mean, he calls a heck of a game on offense as well. So I think that's just something that you don't really see too often.

I would say when it comes to new hires and things like that, especially doing it your first year. But he's definitely been something that has changed the trajectory of this organization. And clearly, this season and this team, so, I mean, he's come in. I wouldn't say there's anything negative about anything that he's. He's come in and done and he's kept his word to what he said. He said he's going to come in and make us uncomfortable and push us and get us to win right now and he's done all of that. And Caleb Williams, Caleb Williams, you can't say enough positive things about him.

A young kid with high expectations coming into the league. And for every right, he's lived up to him. He's done what are you supposed to do? He's won football games. Talk about how he is in the locker room and your relationship with him. honest, it's funny because, I mean, even when he was coming into the draft, it was just always talked about the nails and everything that didn't matter and him being a diva and pre-Madonnais. Like, Caleb is honestly the opposite of that.

Like, he's one of the guys. I mean, he comes in. I mean, he does his work. He's passionate about what he does. He takes pride in what he does. And, I mean, at the end of that, you see him learning. You see him growing like any other rookie, like any other player that takes pride on what the hell that they're doing.

And being around them more just seeing. him and to build him more, spend him more time. And they really just, honestly, just keep an eye out on him and kind of just watching how he goes about his business, just seeing how he's studying more, just seeing how he's studying more, just seeing how he's building relationships around the building more. It's just something that you love to see. And he just, he doesn't switch up. I mean, he's, he is who he is throughout the week.

I mean, he'll be Superman on Sunday and then be a normal guy on Monday. And I think you just love to see things like that. You love to see his humility and his family's great. his mom was great. They always show love. So definitely know that he comes from from a good, a solid foundation. Just love to see where he's going. Yeah. I mean, he showed up big time in the fourth quarter in that game. I made some critical, fourth and eight. That fourth and eight throw was I don't know how y'all conversation went Monday or, you know, we always had tell the truth Mondays, but boy, that throw, I got a lot of respect for it. Critical moment. It found it. It didn't even

look open. Rome made a great catch. It just was an incredible play. Yeah, now, and it's crazy because it's like, when you watch it for me, at least watching all over the internet, it's almost just like, he always does that. It's almost like you don't, it doesn't feel like surreal. Like in a moment, of course, because it was fourth to fourth down, you think about it. It's like, no, that's a great pickup. But it's like, when you really watch it, it's like, he does stuff like that all the time, like in practice. So it's almost crazy to see.

But he's, he's a different time. I think you kind of just change and move your expectations with certain cats. And he's one of those guys that was like, that's just him being him. I don't worry about that. Put too much into it. He's just that type of guy. Yeah, yeah. He's that kind of guy.

And it's a different kind of clutch. And, you know, I don't think you realize and understand it in the moment. But that was the instant classic game. That was an instant classic. I mean, a historic game between two historic franchises in the playoffs. And he made the play of the game when y'all had to have it. It's just so extraordinary what he's been able to do and how you guys have been able to live up to the expectations

and defy the expectations week in and week out. Yeah, and I mean, for him especially, I think it's just a stepping stone in the right direction of being the greatest quarterback of all time. I know that's one of his greatest goals that he wants to accomplish. And I know for a teammate, a supporter of that, you have to help him win games

because the quarterbacks are measured by how they win games and how many games they win and winning them in the big moment. So me being a supporter of that, being on the defense, it's definitely something I take pride in and helping him, get to that level of winning these big time games and finishing off these games.

And they really just trying to just help him best way we can because we know the quarterback really drives at all. Yeah, no question about it. No question about it. Well, I appreciate your time, brother. If you got any questions for me, feel free. But I notice your off day. It's the playoffs.

You got to take care of your body. And I appreciate the time that you gave me today. Yeah, now I'm going to hit your line. I'm going to need some nose heading to this weekend. No question. No question. Let's talk about it. For sure.

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We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions. Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it. But, you know, tired and sick.

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I'd know. I competed there for decades. Join me, Renee Stubbs, on the Renee Stubbs tennis podcast for no nonsense breakdowns of the biggest matches, the toughest players, and the moments that define Roland Garris. She's an outsider to win the French for me. And she likes Clay. Listen, Lina Rabakina is arguably the best player in the world right now,

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