The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Richard Sherman Podcast - Bills DB Rasul Douglas shares his incredible football journey

Episode Date: December 5, 2024

Richard Sherman sits down with Buffalo Bills cornerback Rasul Douglas to discuss his journey to the NFL, from his junior college years experiencing homelessness, to his early NFL seasons with the Philadelphia Eagles, to bouncing around the league with the Carolina Panthers, Las Vegas Raiders, Houston Texans, and Arizona Cardinals, and to finding success with the Green Bay Packers and Buffalo Bills. Rasul breaks down his experiences playing against top talents like DeAndre Hopkins, Tyreek Hill, and Davante Adams, the challenges Josh Allen and Buffalo faced playing in the snow this past weekend against the San Francisco 49ers, and the fierce loyalty of the Bills Mafia. #volume #herdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Welcome to the Richard Sherman podcast. I'm joined here by an incredible guest, Rasul Douglas of the Buffalo Bills. Appreciate you joining me. How are you feeling? How are you doing? I'm doing good, man. I'm doing all good, man. the body feel good.

It don't really feel like it's week 13, so that's a good thing. Knock on that wood, baby. That's a great thing. That's a great thing. I got to talk to you about because, you know, you obviously had success when you got drafted to Philly. You was good. You know, I don't know what really happened after Philly, but you kind of bounced

around a little bit and then found got to Green Bay and started eating immediately. Talk me through that little, that transitional period. You know what your mindset was like? What kept you going? What kept you consistent? Yeah, so, I mean, after I went to Carolina for a year in 2020, and then after that, I decided to take a chance of myself with Raiders, went through a period with the Raiders with them,

got into a kind of altercation, fistfight for playing the Rams, in a joint practice, got released, then went down to Houston for like two days, got released. That was probably the fastest one. Then with Arizona, I was kind of on 8th,000. practice squad for about five, six weeks. Just coach telling me, you know, just keep learning the playbook. We're going to bring you up.

I was practicing competing. And I went home for a weekend, and I came back, and they was just like, oh, bring your iPad in. Green Bay picked you up. And then just went to Green Bay. But my mindset the whole time was just worked. I mean, I was not happy with where I was, being on a practice squad, being out every day. You know how practice squad is. I do.

We want you to go with this route. We can throw this. We want this. You know, just set me up for failure. But I always looked at it like I'm just going to compete because at the end of the day, these are starters. I'm playing against. So I was going against Dio.

I was going against AJ Green, Christian Kurt, you know, Randemort. And I was going to kind of Merck. So I was just like, well, it's still time for me to get better. I can use this as the time to get better. And I kept doing that. And then when I got the Green Bay, it just coaches was like, oh, man, I see how you play. I don't want to change how you play. But let me help you get better with doing the things.

you are good at. And I always tell Jerry Gray, just every time I get a chance to, I was like, man, I appreciate you for, you know, believing in me for taking a chance. Because, Shram, you know how it is in the league. If you're behind a guy who makes a lot more money than you, and you're playing good. When he comes back, that's still his spot. That's the spot. And then in Green Bay, they was like, nah, well, we play the guys who play well, and we don't really care about the money situation. We'll handle that when it's time to handle that. And they just let me keep playing. So I appreciate them for that. and him just getting me better and teaching me the game,

but teach me how to watch film, for real. I think this was when I first started actually learning how to, like, break down film and not just watching it as in, like, if it's a movie or something. Right. So it kind of helped my career. And once that happened, it's just been taking off from there.

It's been taken off. It seems like you play with so much confidence out there. You booking everybody. You know, obviously, y'all lost a lot of leadership last year. It looks like you've taken on a bigger leadership role, you know, with Trey White and all the boys that's left. I think they said, all six captains or something, you know, and sometimes, you know, team got to move on, you know, teams got to move on and get moving forward. Talk me

through your journey because I'm going to take you back. I want to go to the community college you went to and then you're going to West Virginia because that's not a journey that everybody takes, you know what I mean? And it's not necessarily the usual journey for a guy that's going to end up having a lot of success in our league and playing as long as you have. What happened? Why didn't you go straight out of high school? So at high school, I only played my junior and my senior high school. And I really didn't care about playing football, like, long term. It wasn't really like a big thing.

I was just like, man, I'm going to get a job. And I'm going to see what's going out there. At this point, I'm like, you just need money, you know. And then this coach Curtis Gilliam, he kept calling my phone. I'm like, why you keep calling me? And he was like, man, I'm a junior college coach out of New York, a couple of the guys that went to your high school have came here and have had success. So I'm like, okay, I'm okay.

He was like, man, have you committed anywhere? Have you thinking about going anywhere? I'm like, nah. I just probably won't do that where. I probably just get a job. He was like, man, can I just get you to just come up here and just check it out? So I went up to, I drove up in Long Island, New York. And he set me down his office.

And I was like, man, like, who from here goes places or that. And I was like, man, I asked him a few colleges. I said, do they come here? He was like, follow me. And we went down to the gym. And I remember we had like the number one offensive tackle and the number one D tackle during college. And we had Chad.

He was committed to Florida State. And then we had Lance, who rest and peace he died of this year. He had like Alabama and stuff. And we had line back away at USC. So he was like, man, they all here for a reason. So freshman year I didn't really play that much. And then I came back, they switched me from safety to corner. It was like, yo, I think that you would be a good corner.

You got a fee for it. I switched this corner. And then I just blew up. But the junior college was tough, man. That was like every day. I quit one day. I regret telling the story. I don't want to tell it.

But I'll tell it. You ain't got to tell it if you regret it. But it's not crazy, but I always just feel bad when I, like, think about it because I was a rough place where, you know, like, and general times, like, you kind of like, you're fighting, like, you don't got no money. You know what I mean? And then, like, if you're in New York, they do double tuition. So, like, if you don't live in New York, you got to pay, like, out-of-state tuition.

So it's basically paying double to go to school. So I'm from Jerry's time. I'm paying double. And I remember, like, I just like, bro, like, I'm homeless. I'm like, the number two corner in the nation. and I'm homeless. Like, I'm done. Like, I quit.

Like, you know what I mean? And I remember, like, getting a taxi, a cab and, like, going back home. You know what I mean? Like, bro, like, it's over. Like, I can't keep doing this, bro. Like, my grandmother, she ain't really recognized when she's done me. I was skinny. Like, I got to, like, 1,65.

And I just, I had to tell him all that I'm done. And I took a cab all the way back home. I told coach, I was like, I quit. And then it took him, like, two days. He came back and grabbed me. He was like, man, like, I'm going to help you out. And he started helping me out. but there was a lot of guys in our room

because we had a house for like 16 people. We went like five rooms and all of them had offers. And I remember like I was the only one without offers at the time. And we had all, we all from Jersey. So we always usually meet at like a spot in like Montclair. That was like the middle ground point where we would meet. And one of our boys, Earl, would give us a ride. And I remember sitting there waiting for him with my two bags in my hand.

Like, yo, man, y'all, y'all going back. And they're not answering stuff. And then they like text an hour later like, you know, man, we all give up, bro. Like, it's just too hard for us. Our families are struggling. We got kids. You know, we can't do it anymore.

And I'm like, dang. And I remember I walked from, because Dore, where I lived at on Sussex Ave, I walked all the way from near to Penn Station with no money on the train. And you know, like, when you're on a train, you've got to, like, get behind somebody that got the stick pat already stick to their seat and put it on the back of yours so that it looked like you've been already on the train to say you can get to where you're going when you got no money.

So I did that all the way. at school and I remember just being at the house by myself and everybody was going and I was like, oh, they got offers and I don't and they just quit. And man, I just, I just had to keep fighting though, man. That was probably like a rough tax of my life, but it also like helped me because I think at that point I had to like find God and I think that he was testing me like, do you, is this something you really want? Because I think people say it's something they run and then they sign the terms and conditions and then it's like, I don't really want this. You know what I mean? So I think he was he was just asking like, okay, well, if you really want this, let me put some

adversity out there. And let me see if you quit like everybody else knew or you keep going. And I kept going. And then I had all the offers. I had like about 20-some offers. And I told West Virginia, because they was one of the first ones to reach out to me and show me love. And they stay consistent the whole time. So I was like, man, I'm going to go down there and be a mountaineer. Bro.

Bro, I don't know. I don't know what you're ashamed of in that story. I got chill bumps. That's why I'm looking at my arms. Got them goosebumps. Because it's a real. life story of like, like, nah, like, you know, because you didn't quit, you know what I mean? What you did was had doubt for a day, you know what I mean? Like, you didn't quit because quitting, you didn't, you don't come back. Yeah.

So you never quit. All you did was really, you were human, you know what I mean? And I think we've always had those moments. I was a sophomore in college at Stanford, you know, come from the hood. It's a weird, weird place, bunch of weird people. And I'm, I'm, you know what I mean, kind of feeling like I don't fit. hardball gets hired as the coach. I hurt my knee.

We get into it. He tells me I ain't never playing offense again. When I tell you, that boy, I was alone, you know, didn't even know where to go. You know, all he said was I never play again. And he was like, it's time for you to, you need to transfer and quit and do, you know, me, go somewhere else. And, you know, I ain't got the kind of family. You could just go back and be like, oh, man, I messed, you know what I'm about to leave Stanford and go back to the hood and be like, ah, y'all was right.

I wasn't, you know what I couldn't do it. You know? So I'm sitting there with a knee injury every day, walking back, crutching back to my dorm. Like, bro, like, it's over. Like, bro, you had all these dreams. You had all this stuff you wanted to accomplish and it's over with. And it was so many times I just wanted to get in the car, just be like, bro, just drive until we run out of gas and we'll figure it out from there.

But I didn't because I was just like, bro, you can't, like, they can't be right. You know what I mean? Like, that pride of me. I ain't going to let y'all be right right now. And that kept me going. I ended up switching the defense because he said I never play offense again, but he didn't say I could never play. And so I switched to defense.

You know, I was a receiver. I couldn't pedal really. My pedal was stank. Like, my stance was nasty. It was bad out there. But I knew all the plays. So they're trying to signal plays. They're trying to line up.

I know exactly what you're doing. Like, I probably had 12, 13 picks that spring ball. Like, because I know them all. I'm calling about. Yeah. Bro, it was super fun. I jumped up the Jeff chart. I was the starting corner.

Still, didn't have a good stance, still, you know, figuring out tackling and stuff. But you fast forward two years later, I'm in the league and, you know what I'm making it shake. Yeah, yeah. One of the best. I appreciate that. Hell yeah.

But yeah, ain't nothing sad about that story, bro. That's a really cool story. And what you don't understand is how much it's going to inspire some kid that's going through the exact, the same thing. Like some kid ready to quit right now. I won't hear you say that and be like, all right, let me give it one more day.

Yep, yeah. Because look how far it's taking, you know what I mean? You're one of the best DVs in the league. Freaking getting books on one of the best teams in the National Football League. You bounced around, stay consistent, stay 10 toes down, and you getting what you deserve now. You know what I mean?

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Talk to me about because you keep playing these cold places. And I know you from New York, but I mean, Jersey, my bad. Yeah, Jersey, Jayson. Nah, I ain't going to say, no. I'm going to let you slide. But, but, bro, it looked rough out there the other day. Yesterday, probably, or the other day was probably the worst game. because every time we took a step,

the whole bottom of my cleat had, like, snowing it. So I remember one time I'm running, I'm like, damn, I feel like I'm running on a ball or something. Because the back of my cleat had a snowball like this big, and then the front was on the ground. And I'm like, bro, you can't even move. And I remember everybody coming to the sidelong, like, oh, Swiss cleats, they're switching our cleats for us.

We go on the next job. We're like, man, these jumps don't work either. So I was just like, well, ain't no cleat going to work. If those three don't work. So I was like, you just got a fight. And I remember coach was just like, look, man, look, just stay solid. don't give up nothing big, no explosive, and then just tackle. He was like, and we're going to get through this game,

and then we'll be ours. So that was just a mindset for us, but that snow game. That was crazy. I don't play in other games where it was cold, but not snowing the ground. You can't even do nothing with your feet. You know what I mean? Bro, they don't understand.

It's so hard to play corner, period, like in perfect condition. So to make it like that, it's dangar impossible. I can't trust my feet now. That's the thing. And I remember one player, he had caught the ball. And I remember both of us was sitting there trying to, like, stop together to go back to the football.

And he just caught it with his chest and just went out and about. And I was like, bro, come on. It's no way, bro. I can't get out my brick. And it was just bad. It was bad. Bro, that's why when they talk about, oh, this is football weather. I said, not if you play corner.

That's the most stressed football you will ever be a part of. Tell you. Because at least the receiver, he knows, like, all right, I'm stopping at this point. So he good. But when you don't know and you just backboy and then it's like, oh, snap, I got a break now and you can't get their feet up under you, there ain't nothing you can do. And then if you make one wrong move or slip,

you own sports center. Top ten, da-na-na-na-na-na, everybody looking at you. That's why I stay cornered at the hardest position because it's like one play. It just glorified. You know, a D-Lon out in their gap, and they get a big run. That ain't talked about.

That's regular, you know what I mean? But once the corner do it, oh, no, it's over. It's over with it. It's over with every single time. Did you see that play that everybody, talking about, including myself, with Z's out here and Trevor Lawrence when he hit him when he was sliding. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, I'm saying it. What did you think of that? Because I'm, you know, I mean, I'm in the department where, first off, y'all, I'm making the game soft. Second off, like, he tried to get a few extra yards. And, yeah, Ziz was probably a hair late, but it wasn't like he dropped his shoulder. He was trying to, like, put his arms out and give him a four-arms shibble to the chest. Yeah, instead of his helmet.

Because it could have been helmet to helmet if he wanted. but he kind of like put his arm out to like grace. You know, like, you know, like your parent do a bad turn, they put the hand out and they like, stop. That was one of those. But like I said, it's so hard to be DB because you're telling the guy who's running 21, 22 miles per hour to wait to the last minute to stop. And then we see, we see plays like last week where, what was it,

my home was scrambling. And then the guy thought he was about to slide. And he kind of like pushed him, but he kept running. So it was like, how do you determine whether he's going to slide or not? My thing is as a quarterback, you know the rules. if you're going to get yourself up, get yourself up early. If you're going to try to fight for another yard or two, then you accept, you excited when you get hit.

Right. And you got to expect it, you know. Exactly. And that's exactly, he had booted. Trevor Lawrence had booted around. He looked and Z's in the eye for like 10 yards. Like, you knew dang well. You could have been stopped.

You could have been stopped. You could have been stopped. You sitting there as like, I could squeak a few more yards out of this. I can make it instead of second and seven, I can make it second in two. And it's like, all right. It's like getting too. Yeah, you're playing with fire. And that's the thing is it's just too late.

But the game is having it fast. And what they do is they slow it down and they try to. And it's like, bro, I'm going this fast. There's no way I can stop all my momentum because he slid late. Like, now if he does it early and then I still going to him, like, then that's something different, something different. But I've been at that play where I did that to Justin Fields. And I was like, bro, like, you slid right here.

Like, like, I'm running full speed. And I'm, and I know you running the ball. Like, I'm trying to tackle you. And then the next time he ran the ball, I didn't hit him. And he kept going. And I just kind of like, come on. It'd be that little indecisive. Like, I can't.

And I'd rather be wrong or right than wrong. You know what I mean? I'd rather just tackle him like I'm going to tackle him than not. And then he just keep going. So it's a tough situation right there. It's a tough situation. That's what people never look like when you play defense, I hate to make the analogy because people don't understand it,

but you won't understand. It's like being a black man in America, boy. You're guilty until proven innocent every single time. And you be sitting there, they'd be like, you're looking at a play, and they slow-mo it, you hand-fighting with the receiver, he pulling your neck, he pushing your head, and you're trying to go up for the ball. And they're like, that's defensive pass interference. I said, when that boy stiff on me in the face and caught the ball,

y'all just said, that's a great play. And I ain't going to say nothing. They ain't going to say nothing about that. Not a thing. And that's the hard part for me is, it's hard enough to play defense as is. Yeah. Now y'all saying don't land on the quarterback. Y'all saying every bit of hand fighting, if it ain't the receiver, then it's a penalty.

And then you can't hit nobody. Now it's like, I'm aiming for your chest and then you duck down to brace up. I hit you in the head. Now you're trying to suspend me. And it's like, take your money out my pocket. You know they're taking that money. They know, no, they're like, man, that's all they care about is money. That's the only way we can get to him.

All right, fine his ass. That's just how they think. they're going to take that money. They don't do anything else. They're going to take it every single time. That's the moment. Even these, even these like, what do they call them, the tackles that they don't like, the hip drop?

Hip drop. They just made a word for that. That was not a word until like somebody's like, oh, that's like a hip drop tag. Now's a hip drop. They ban it. And they ain't called it the whole year. No, because you can't call it.

It's impossible. It's impossible. It's impossible. You don't want nobody tackling people low because it take away their ACL, MCL, You don't want people going high because they concussion. Now you don't want you to hit job tackle. Eventually you might as well start pulling out the flag

and just say take the flag of that guy back. And you see they transfer that to like the Pro Bowl. I won't be surprised in a few years if they just like, you know what? Let's just take all of it out and let's just do that. I wouldn't be surprised. Especially with quarterbacks. I'm with you. You can't touch the quarterback.

You can't, man. They like divas out there. And they know they can't get hit. And they know it. They be sitting there. Anytime they get touched, they're looking at the ref. Like you, you're going to stop you? You ain't going to stay nothing?

But we're going to talk about one of your teammates because, first of all, I don't know how you, as his veteran, letting him walk around with 47 on, but Christian Benford is playing some good football in that stank number. And I'm sorry, Christian, I mean this in the most complimentary way. It's going to be hard for you to get any credit that you deserve until you get off the phone set. But he, but he know that, though, like it's not like he don't. know that he know that his number is like, but it's his number and he feel like, you know,

he want to make that number different. And I told him, I was like, man, that's good because now you can't get out of it now. You know, like, you got to stick with it. That got to be your number for the rest of your life. But, bro, like, he's a good person, you know. He's a better person than football players. Like, he does the right things. He don't really talk too much.

He just worked, you know, and every day he's trying to be better. Like, oh, asking to be coached, pushing his stuff at the practice. We're out there for maybe 45 minutes every. day at the practice, just getting work on on stuff that we need or anything that we might have messed up on in practice. You know, he just got that mentality like, like, I'm a dog and I got to play that way every time, you know, just because I'm a, I'm a 10th round pick.

You know what I mean? So that's just how he played, but man, he's a hell of a player. He's definitely having like an all pro season for sure. No question he is. He's freaking balling. He's balling at a high level. Early in the season, we had, you know, Miami it might have been, maybe first game. And he might have had a pick six in the game.

I'm not mistaken. Yeah, he picked Miami off. Yeah. And it was just a 4-7. And I think y'all had another dude out there in 408. 4-6. 4-6, that's what it was. And they both got picks.

I think Bimford had two and the other 4-8, 4-6 had one. No, 4-6 had two and Biffer had one. Okay, vice versa. Yeah, vice versa. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, they both got the numbers. I don't know. I don't know.

I don't think they're changing them either. They're going to keep them. Right, right. They're going to keep getting targeted. As long as they go on it. They're punishing them, though. Had there's been any talks about an extension for you in Buffalo? I think they've been talking to my agent about it.

They didn't really mention nothing to me yet, but I think they've been talking to my agent. I know last year, beginning of this year and season, they was talking about it that they wanted to get something done. But we'll see what's going on after the season. Right now, I'm thinking bigger than... Yeah, I'm. I'm just this the year.

I feel like we can do something good. So I'm just trying to put my all into that at the moment. As you should. That's how it's supposed to be. I ain't trying to start nothing, but you're going to get what you deserve. I hope you get everything you deserve and more. Talk about the Bills Mafia because they're crazy.

You went from Green Bay who got some really crazy fans and they own the team and all this other stuff and they really incredible passion fans. But then you got the Bills fans and they are a whole different level of passion and energy and dedication. They come in to snow to plow the field for free? I still don't understand that. To this day, I don't understand that.

A billion-dollar company got fans out there snowing it. I don't understand it. But the fans, they love the bills, man. They'll do anything for the bills. It's so much love with the fans. They be jumping off tables. They come into the game, no shirt on, no nothing. And they just love, they love Buffalo.

They love everything about it. it. That's why, like, we got it. We got to give them something, you know, I mean, a love forever. Something, something big that they'll love forever. This city might blow up. I keep telling people, if we do it big this time, next year we're going to be the Toronto Bills.

It ain't going to be, it ain't going to be no damn Buffalo no more. Buffalo will be gone. It's going to be New York and then Toronto. That's it. It ain't going to be nothing. The Giants and it just don't got to worry about nobody being better than me New York. It's just going to be Toronto bills. Boy, they're going to be building statues of y'all,

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I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. And, well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys.

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I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Are you going, you know, if everything goes as is, it's not jinx, nothing, it's not saying no crazy words. But if everything goes like you wanted to, when your dreams come true and there's a trophy in Buffalo, you jump it through a table. I jump it on that table. I jump right with the fan. I'll let them pick my ass up and throw me.

I'll dodge, man. I jump out there with him. I'm telling you I would. I don't care at this point. You are food. He's it over with it. I do whatever at that point. That's you too funny, man.

Who was your favorite corner to, like, study growing up? You know, everybody got a different, you know, when you was coming up, it was probably, you know, they had the old heads in there, but Revis was probably in his prime at that point. Charles had just one defensive player to year. Who were the guys you were studying or trying to emulate or if it was nobody, then it's nobody. So I'll be honest, when I first started playing football,

A. Reed was, like, my favorite player ever. So I always liked this game because I always like. him getting picks and never like falling like just running no matter if it's in the back of the end zone or anywhere right i grew up liking him i like charles um charles wilson was i like him a lot and then like what i said like when i really started like playing football and i actually was probably like my my junior senior year was probably around 2012 13 when i really start start getting there to like it i would say you i was like it was you because i like that whole seattle boom the legend of boom y'all had going on and how you play it.

It just seemed like you always like knew where the bar was going and then you got picks because some people were like, oh, what's you count? You don't get picks? I'm like, bro, the best corners get picks. Like, that's just what they do. It's just what they do. I don't want to hear you got one pick and you're saying you the best corner. Like, there's no way, bro.

There's no way. So I always like that about you. And you're tackling. You know what I mean? Like some people don't like tagging. Like so you just write out and I'm like, nah, like, Sharm going, he's going to talk it jumped like me like i like that he talked he'll back it up and i always think with i always like the most is like he's going to put all the lights on him but he's going to perform so it's like

you can say whatever you want about somebody when they talk and they got everybody watching like oh what do what he do what he do what you do that end of the game you look he got two picks he got four tuggles and the and the pb u is like what could you say you know what could you say nats so i would say that y'all y'all three for sure yeah i appreciate that man we put we took a lot of pride in it i mean obviously y'all taking a lot of pride in and y'all got a really good them in McDermann and y'all really trust this game but that's just what we was doing you know we had a really good scheme even though when you know the weaknesses of it and everybody know what you're going to be in y'all can't beat us because we're going to play it really well we're going to execute and

we smack in y'all when y'all touch it and we practice hard as ever you know and that's why if you come out to practice you're going to I think people would be more impressed by us if they came to practice than it was in the game because boys is out there like wolves and you would think Every one of us is practice squad trying to make the team. Yeah. And that's the best thing. Everybody competing. Right.

It led to the organization getting fine and losing traffic sometimes. But that's their fault. They should not. Yeah, they got enough money. They can handle that. They can handle it. You told us to practice hard. Give us the off season off then.

If y'all don't want to deal with this. Yeah, I mean. No OTAs on that. Just put that a little bit of cap. That's it. That's it. Look, if y' y'all don't want to get fine about us practicing too hard and getting too physical,

then go ahead and set us home. And we'll happily go on vacation. But if you put us on this grass, we're going to get everything we got. It's not supposed to be. Who's been the toughest receiver to go against for you so far? This year? Period.

Just overall. I mean, you saw AJ late, but AJ was special, man. I know. I remember watching him a little bit when he was with Sissy. He was cold. But I still think when I first, Julio's crazy.

Oh, my. Like, I used to be mad, guard him. I'm like, bro, how are you this fast? And stopping on one, two steps, like, like, just running full speed, 25 yards, out, 25 yard curls. I'm like, bro, you know, after 15 yards, I'm running to the goal pole. It got to be in air.

I'm like, oh, man, no knees. But he always was like, I say, like, the tough as him. He was tough. Taye was tough. Monti Adams, he was tough, guard. Because Tay is just so at the line, so lateral. Yeah, bro. And everything just looked, it looked the same.

It's a skip. Oh, it looks slant anymore. And he gives you that little burst. Like, Tay got a burst. You know what I mean? Like, he's not fast, like long speed, but he got a burst. And that's all he needs is one, two yards. And he's all right over his face.

He lay hand it, and then there's nothing you can do. So, like, that's what he killed everybody, the line and that little burst. And you're trying to play his speed where you're slowing down. And that's, you know, he burst on. He was like, oh, I wasn't ready to run. Now you got to try to that he gets you every time. But them too was tough. I always say Tyree hard to guard because he's just so fast.

If you miss him, it's over. It's over. And you know what I mean? You never want to get into a track where with him. You know what I mean? So him. I like Calvin. I like Calvin really.

I think he's a good rock runner too. Every time he's going to run, I'll be like, his route treat is nice. Right. Did you see what Sneed did to him in the playoffs? When you familiar with somebody, it gave you a whole different. Yeah, it's different.

Those practice vibes in the game. Like, right. Yeah. But yeah, I've seen that. Boy, that boy Sneed was up there practically like, like, hey, I told you if we ever see each other in the game. Yeah, I'm going to get you up. I was like, damn, watching that. Damn.

He had it out for them, though. He did it this thing too. He was going to the same thing when they played Miami. This thing. He was doing that same exact thing. He was like. He can play. He just about to get buried.

He went and got his money in Tennessee, but he ain't, he ain't never going to get the credit. deserve no more because you're in Tennessee, unfortunately. Yeah, you know how Tennessee is. Everybody go over there and they kind of look just look different. They look different. I mean, he got his money, though. I'm happy for anybody getting money. Yeah, need that.

And what, Tennessee don't got no taxes over there? I don't think they do. You're right. That's good for him. Need it all. Need it all. Need it all. Big fan of your game, man.

I appreciate you coming on. Appreciate you taking time. I know I'm happy to see you ball and happy to see your team balling. even if they beat my former teams, you know, after a while. I want everybody to get their ring. Yeah. Yeah. Sometimes you stay.

That's because you got to us already. You're like, man. But, boy, I tell you what, it ain't nothing worse than losing one. So that's, that'll be my little advice to you. Y'all get. That means, your name will always be there that face you made when you're saying to throw that pick. I'm down because I was damn. Shock and all.

That was shock and all. I said, wait a minute. What? Yeah. Yeah, that's one thing I never understand. I always like, you know, people always ask you with sports rig. And you always be like, nah, I'm out there giving them my all. And then you see something like that and you be like, ah, man, it might be a little bit, you know?

It might be just a little bit. Look, well, clearly I wasn't in on the rigging. I didn't understand. They didn't need a script, huh? It didn't get me the script. Because, hey, that locker room after that game, boy, it was some furniture moving in there. Because it did not make sense. Boy, boys played too hard.

And shit, I lost that one, and we lost one in my homes now in Miami. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I tell you, the win felt good. Win is great. You get to ring and everything, but the loss hurt more than the win feel good. So if you ever get a chance to play in that game, try your best to impose that, that, hey, you will never forget yourself.

Like, I don't get the damn, if you did one thing where you went out and had one drink that week, Or are you freaking stayed up two hours later? Or you did whatever. You're going to be going back and second-guess and everything you did going up into that game. Because you get two weeks. So boys want to stay in routine and stay in anything. But once you get to the Super Bowl week, it's a whole different thing. There's so much media.

There's so much anything. And depending on the city of you and we're in New Orleans this year. So it's some stuff to do. And boys, food to eat. It's people to see. And everybody want to get a piece of you and do appearances. and if that's not what you normally do, then you probably should stay away from it.

But it's like for a week, keep your behind still because my team in San Francisco, that's exactly what I told the young boys, we get there, they go out the first night we get there to Miami. And I'm like, bro, like, y'all don't get it. Like, y'all, y'all went out. Like, maybe we win this game and y'all don't learn the lesson.

But we lose, you're going to be sitting there like, was it because I went out? You know, was it because I was partying and drinking and hanging out? Like, maybe. Like, but you don't even give you something. the chance to figure that out if you go out there and make that decision. Like, if you win a Super Bowl, it sticks with you for the rest of your life. If you lose, it does the same thing in the worst way.

Ugh. Sick. Sick. But I know it's your off day, and I appreciate you joining me and spend some time with me. Appreciate you for having me, man. Yeah, man, you're a heck of a player. And if you ever need anything, take my number and we'll stay in contact. I'll send you my little two cents.

If I see them call some BS on you or I see you get. You get crazy book. Yeah, no, let me know. Let me know. I'll let you know what I see. Yes, sir. I appreciate you. Appreciate you.

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Hey, Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions. Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it. But, you know, tired and sick.

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