The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Richard Sherman Podcast - Chiefs safety Justin Reid

Episode Date: October 31, 2024

Richard Sherman interviews Kansas City Chiefs safety and two-time Super Bowl champion Justin Reid, and the two discuss Kansas City's 7-0 start to the 2024 NFL season, Chiefs defensive coordinator Stev...e Spagnuolo's masterful game planning, and how Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelce, and Andy Reid have crafted their Super Bowl-winning culture. Justin breaks down his interception off Brock Purdy in Kansas City's Week 7 victory over the San Francisco 49ers, the two commiserate over the sorry state of their alma mater Stanford's play this season, and Richard tells the story of his first child's due date coinciding with the Seattle Seahawks' Super Bowl against Tom Brady and the New England Patriots. #volume #herdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:04:29 Super Bowl. Championship. always be the expectation. All right, man, that you go on here. Welcome to the Richard Sherman podcast, and we got an incredible guest, two-time Super Bowl champion, Stanford, man. Justin Reeve, my boy.
Starting point is 00:04:48 Appreciate you on me on the show, bro. Appreciate you joining me, man. It's my pleasure. So how are you feeling? I mean, you leave Houston, you get to Kansas City, replacing the honey badger and then you get two rings later. And, I mean, you got to, you got to just feel like it's been a blessing.
Starting point is 00:05:07 No, I feel on top of the world, bro. Two chasing the third was a totally different experience. My first two years in Houston, my time in Houston overall was good, and I enjoyed it there. But first two years are really good. We're a competitive team. Next two years, not so much, four and 12, two years in a row. But then they come into an organization with so much momentum and so much structure. and just to be able to be a piece of that
Starting point is 00:05:30 and trying to add my spin and my personality to it as well. Been a ton of fun. It's a ride that is still going on strong and happy to be a part of it. Yeah, I mean, y'all 7 and 0, you're been in some dog fights of games, you know, and we got to talk to Trent McDuffie
Starting point is 00:05:47 earlier this season, and he just talked about the culture and nobody ever flinches, nobody ever, like, doesn't feel like, like, right, yeah. There's no, like, like, what's really? really cool is how close, like the actual definition of team and how much of a team we are that, you know, we have each other's back.
Starting point is 00:06:06 Something goes wrong. We're encouraging the man, trying to pick them back up. We have an injury. We encourage and get the next man ready. There's no selfishness. There's no ego. It doesn't matter who gets the stats. What matters is just how we can all do our part to try and help each other succeed.
Starting point is 00:06:23 You know, if I got to take on, you know, this block or grab this attention so that the next man to get a sack. Everybody is on board with doing that and it shows up with the way that Spaggs causes defenses. And, you know, it just makes a lot more fun to win. The games aren't easy. It never is. But honestly, I think we'll be better for it because when situations are tough and, you know,
Starting point is 00:06:45 when shit hits the fan, you got to be ready to handle that, you know. And I think that we're getting some good, some valuable work at that and it's going to service in the long run. Talk about Spags as a D.C. You know, I mean, you've been there for two years, dealt with him in regular season and dealt with them in playoff situations, Super Bowl situations. Just talk about his preparation and his demeanor because he's, I mean, arguably the best doing it right now. And obviously, you guys are incredibly prepared every week. The ultimate, the ultimate leader, the ultimate mentor, the ultimate man of faith. But really is his mentorship. Like, he comes about things from a deeply, like, educational and like, I'll coach you to do things the right way. You do it this way and his defense is going to work.
Starting point is 00:07:32 He spent so much time in the film room and he cares about his guys and using guys' strengths of putting him in the right situations. And, you know, he has that effect that legendary coaches have in which you want to do right by him. Like, you want to make them proud. You want to do things in a way in the vision that he sees things. And you just know it's going to work. But he pulls guys to the side one-on-one during practice to do.
Starting point is 00:07:56 visual drills with each guy on something that he thinks they can work with. He'll pull guys in one-on-on-on-the-means overtake. And then the playbook is so deep. By far, the defensive playbook that I've experienced out of four different defensive coordinators that, you know, he's always going to throw something new at whoever we're playing every week. So it's hard for teams to be prepared for it. No question.
Starting point is 00:08:21 I mean, some of the looks, some of the pressures you guys bring, who's pressuring? I mean, it looks like you guys reset your playbook every single week. It doesn't look the same week to week. And I know people have variety, but, I mean, it almost looks like totally different schemes at times. We have 20 different versions of cover zero, and that is not an exaggerated number. Oh, my God. That is not an exaggerated number, bro. And then we have fire zones.
Starting point is 00:08:47 We have tangos. We have half fire zone, half cover two is cover three, it's cover ones, cover fives. Covers that switch from one coverage to the next covers. with motion or alignments, coverage checks on if the quarterback is in gun or if he's under center. We'll check into a blitz. We'll check out of a blitz. Bro, like every week is just so different. And I think that the other strength is that we have the guys that can handle that informational load
Starting point is 00:09:13 and get everyone on the same page that there isn't coverage bus. Walk me through your interception against San Francisco because I still couldn't figure out what y'all were in that one. Yeah, so that was the alternative. version of a cover one to where we know Sam Fran, they run a coverage with use check and with Kittle to where they kind of use those guys interchangeably. One guy might be a fullback, one by them, maybe a tight end. We want to do some things when we give certain looks that they're an eye formation that would allow one guy to maybe sluff off and be like a robber technique,
Starting point is 00:09:47 let the linebackers take him. But if he's stretched out wide, then we'd have a defensive back. Don't get too much, by the way. I don't want to. Yeah, we're not going. I mean, this is, yeah, but anyway, it was the alternative version of a cover one. We had Chamari Garden Kittle. Beekhook rolls down from the two shell.
Starting point is 00:10:04 We tried to hold the two shell as much as possible, just not give it away to wear on one high. And we knew out of the film study and formation recognition that they were in the eye bags. They liked play action out of it, random play action. I saw George Kolofkis have pressure in Brock's face. And what I was taught actually back from my days with Lovey Smith was, if you're in the post and a quarterback has pressure in his face, you can dive out of the post. So saw that he had pressure in his face,
Starting point is 00:10:31 that gave me the green light that I can dive out of the post, saw the overall by Kittle and just went and robbed it. Boy, I love a coachable player. I love a coachable guy. I'm sure Spags loves it too. Such an instinctive play. And that's so much of what football comes down to because people are like, what coordinator was it?
Starting point is 00:10:49 What did he do? There must have been something crazy. And it's like, no, sometimes it's just players making plays doing what we were coached to do and sometimes doing what we weren't coach to do and just making it happen. It's going to happen anyway. Right. They call it a feel for the game. This is a feel for the game.
Starting point is 00:11:04 Just a feel. We go to the sideline sometimes the coaches are like, what did y'all do right there? It's like, don't worry about it. That's why we play the game. Just interception. You wanted it at that, right? We'll talk about it in the film room. And Brian, what makes it so cool, too, is like, man, I love having smart players around me, bro,
Starting point is 00:11:20 because you're always going to get something that you, you know, maybe didn't see on tape, or it's a little bit different and to be able to fix things on the fly and play off of each other and still get it done. And then you come to the sideline, you talk about it and it's like, hey, that worked, man.
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Starting point is 00:12:19 for details. I love that. I love that. I love you guys. just seem to do a great job developing players, too. I mean, even when rookies come in, they'll be sitting there some low draft or undrafted, rookie corner or nickel or safety, and they are bowling. They're getting books.
Starting point is 00:12:35 They're in the right spots. They're making plays, and it's just like no matter what happens in his defense outside of when Chris Jones wasn't there because it's a whole different defense when he ain't in there. Yeah, but outside of that, it just seems like no matter what happens, somebody goes down, twist the ankle,
Starting point is 00:12:52 they bring somebody else in, and they're playing at a high level. Next person, high level. I was like, God. Boys, it does not matter. That's really training camp, bro. That's the Andy Reed training camps because, bro, we hammer it with the plays.
Starting point is 00:13:05 Like, it was a little bit of a shock for me. My first training camp with them because of the sheer volume of running and plays run in a practice, it'd be well over a hundred plays just on one side of the ball, each practice, bro. And yeah, you got to prepare for it. Like, it's not for the faint of heart.
Starting point is 00:13:23 You have no choice to be on your recovery on the details. And you get a lot of reps at which I think allows us to be multiple in the long run. No question. The more things you see. I mean, more reps is more reps. That's one thing Harvall said that I cannot argue with. More is more. And it seems like you don't always need that much.
Starting point is 00:13:43 But he used to split fields. Ones and two's offense and defense over here. One's and two's offensive defense over here. And we're going at the same time. Film both. We're going to maximize this. still practicing for three hours. So just be out to kick.
Starting point is 00:13:56 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Talk about playing with Pat and what he's meant. Obviously, everybody sees the stuff that he does on the field, to play the game at a high level. But you came from the outside into him in his prime. So I know that had to be just crazy. Yeah, a couple things about Pat. One is how humble of a dude that he is in real life.
Starting point is 00:14:18 He is not a guy that puts himself on a pedestal. He's not a guy that, you know, around like he's any better than anyone else. Although we know he's the best player in football. But just a guy that's very approachable, anyone can talk to him. And I think his work ethic and his consistency help build the culture of the whole team. Because when your best players like that, then everybody else is on the same pace, too.
Starting point is 00:14:41 If Pat's going to work that hard and be humble and be willing to do whatever it takes to win, everybody else doesn't have a choice but to fall in line to do the same thing. And, you know, he's just a gamer, bro. Like, it doesn't always have to be pretty. but he'll find a way to get the job done and make it work. Yeah, he's been doing that. He's a winner and winners win, and that's what y'all are continuing to do. I mean, a lot of people would say you guys are more of a defensive team now,
Starting point is 00:15:04 but it does not change the fact that he's the best quarterback and best player in football. Talk about your battles with Travis because he had different beats too. He got a lot more wiggle than you would think for a man his size. Yeah, yeah. It catches everybody off guard the first time they guard him, bro, because, like, he'll cut off his inside foot. He'll do like what he's and this is a this part that's not spoken about, bro. His how smart he is on the football field, bro.
Starting point is 00:15:32 Because he has the awareness to know that, hey, I know what the other guys around are running these routes. And I'm not, I'm not a guy that's going to run into being covered. You know, some guys, you know, you call a seven route. They're going to run that seven route even if there's two defenders sitting out there. But he will sometimes change his route on the fly. But he knows not to get in anyone else's lane, and he just gets open, and him and 15 had that connection,
Starting point is 00:15:57 and it is impossible to guard. I remember when I was playing with Houston, 2019 playoff game in Kansas City, and I got a formation, and I was guarding him, and I knew it. I seen this play over and over again. I knew he was doing an out route, bro. He did an out-pivot on me.
Starting point is 00:16:14 And it changed everything that I, bro, it messed up my entire game plan, because I was like, I can't even trust my film study the whole week because I knew that there was this play. And then he just, you know, he made it something else. And I think that that's the under-spoken part about his game, you know. And then, of course, the laterals and stuff that always keeps people on their toes. But. Yeah, and every time on TV, they're like, I think that was designed.
Starting point is 00:16:38 That was not design. There ain't nobody designed in no play. We've thrown him over 30 yards. Everyone knows when Travis has the ball. Tram out of the ball and he sees you open. He might throw it to you. That's crazy. That's crazy, man.
Starting point is 00:16:53 I saw that route. I think Justin Jefferson ran it against Gilly, where he ran like a whip route and then whip back out. And I was like, bro, if they running routes like this, y'all got it. And, bro, I'm telling you, bro. I'm telling you. They're getting different. I just seen a route on film today.
Starting point is 00:17:11 I think it was, who was it? It was, anyway, the route was he ran a, a curl he ran like a stutter go but it was a it was a curl like a warly bird whirly bird go to a second whirly bird go
Starting point is 00:17:29 it was two whirly birds like he did like you would think it was like a whirly bird fade route or anything at the most it's a warly bird curl route he did two worthy bird warly bird fade bro I'm fighting
Starting point is 00:17:44 I'm taking my helmet off walking up into the booth we're going to have to fight because you disrespecting me right now. Bro, on me. Somebody got a blitz quarterback, bro. We were playing Kansas City, and I'm sure you've seen it a lot of times down because you're with them.
Starting point is 00:17:59 They ran seven pump curls in a Super Bowl. We've never seen it. Never seen it before. I've seen seven pumps. I've seen kite routes. I've never seen a seven pump curl back down. And, of course, they're running with Tyreek because he's a one that can have enough speed to do it.
Starting point is 00:18:17 I'm running. I'm like, we have. in cover two. So I'm like, I'm giving some depth to my safety because I'm like, I'm not about to leave you one-on-one with Tyree or not. I'm just going to, I'm a play as deep as I can and we'll come back and rally to everything. And so he runs the seven, I'm there in the window. He
Starting point is 00:18:30 runs the pump. I'm like, hey, I'm still here, but that's on you. You got to run. If you do anything else, that will put his foot in the ground and came back, I said, oh, it's different. It's different. It's the whole. It's a whole in the defense. Bro, they're getting creative, bro.
Starting point is 00:18:46 Coach's being in the lab. they are in the lab. And these offensive lines are getting away with a lot more holding than they should. But that's a story for a different day. Because the league wants to quarterback's protected. Yeah, it all points on. They all points on the board. We get it.
Starting point is 00:19:01 Right. Yeah. What's going on with our Cardinal, man? Oh. Oh, man. You know what? I went to the S&U game. And, yeah, that game was a little bit tough.
Starting point is 00:19:14 I mean, they're so injured right now, though. first string corners, both of them hurt. Second string corners, both of the second string corners hurt. Kind of just feel it for the true freshman guy that got thrown out there. And, you know, they had a game plan and executed on it. You know, first play of the game, RPO slant to the house. And it was like it just didn't get much better from there. And they brought us all out for the TCU game because Toby was going into Hall of Fame.
Starting point is 00:19:42 And, you know, you had me there, luck, you know, all the old guys. We're just sitting there watching it was a drubbing And it just didn't look like they belonged out there with them at times And people are like, what's wrong? You know, how is the NIL affected them this much? I said it's the NIL along with a lot of other factors that were already issues. I mean, what makes it so extremely tough, aside from the NIL, which, you know, Stanford needs to catch up on and they want to compete with the big boys.
Starting point is 00:20:09 They got to, you know, they got to play the game that's being played right now. But it's also hard. It's just the transfer portal. And that Stanford only allows guys to transfer in if they were already accepted into the school as an undergraduate unless you are going to graduate school. So, I mean, they kind of get hit twice because the NIA on the first place, then guys are leaving and you can't get talent back in because they weren't already approved. It's just, it's a, it's a recipe that needs to be fixed. Right. And they're not going to fix it because they don't care enough to fix it. And we could call it Bernard and do everything we can.
Starting point is 00:20:48 They're like, hey, why don't you get back involved? Because Andrews running the collective now and doing the NIL stuff. And they're like, hey, they want to give money. People are donating a lot of money, but they want to give it to football. But, you know, the AD says we have to spread it evenly. And you know, Stanford, we're going to do things fairly. The rest of the world ain't doing it fair. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Starting point is 00:26:40 And we get on the plane and she's, well, she gets. on the plane because family got a separate plane. She's like, well, I have cramps. Thankfully, it was a short flight. He came a day later. Wow. Wow. Yeah, the only positive is that, you know,
Starting point is 00:26:53 Sue Bow's in New Orleans. So home state, have a lot of family that's there. So there is a lot of support there already. So that's the one thing that makes a little bit easier. But, yeah, you mean, you can't, you can't, you got to do what you've got to do in those situations. I'm telling you to put some things in place. You might want to make some, you know,
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Starting point is 00:27:44 If you can possibly be there, though, in that room with her, make sure you dare. Now, you know, the game and everything else, she don't want to come. And I'm sure you and your wife have the same relationships to the game that me and mine had. But if you can be in that room with her, boy, it means something. It definitely means something. Yeah. No, I definitely feel you. So did you watch?
Starting point is 00:28:04 I pulled them out. I pulled both of them out. And so I got kind of trick into it. I got duke. But it's great. right now, you know, in the end, I'd just be like, yeah, that's a hell of a story. That's one hell of a story.
Starting point is 00:28:20 So we had a midwife and, you know, we're at the hospital and everything. We're not doing a home birth or anything, but the midwife's there. My wife had just got the appradoral and the potosin, you know, which helps the contractions and everything. Yeah. Everything get going.
Starting point is 00:28:33 And so I'm like helping, you know what I mean? She's like, hey, could you do this? Can you do this? I'm running around. Like, what else can I do? And she's like, all right, I can see hair. Like, the hair's coming out. And I'm like, okay.
Starting point is 00:28:43 Like, do you need me? me to, you know what I mean? You want me to back you up? I'm backing you up. And she's like, yeah, yeah, just stand next to me. And then she was like, you see the hair? And I was like, yeah, she was like, just put your hand right here and hold this for me. I'm like, wait a minute. So I'm holding. And she's like, yeah, now just work the head out a little bit. And I'm like, wait a minute. And she started backing up. I'm like, oh, no, no. I'm in it, no. I'm in it. Yeah, yeah. And so I'm working out a little bit. His shoulder popped out. And then he was in my hands.
Starting point is 00:29:14 Yeah. And that was what it was. And then, you know, it felt cool because I was the first person to see him. And then I gave him to his mama and he got to, you know, start eating. And they cut the ambelical core. But after that, for my daughter, it was kind of like I had to. Yeah. Right, right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:29:29 That's cool, though. That's actually, that's actually pretty cool, her part that she set you up like that to do that. Yeah, yeah. It was really cool. It was a little, you know how it. It locked me straight into game mode, though. Like, I immediately went, lock it.
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Starting point is 00:31:14 I feel like we never get to talk. You know, we always running through and transition. Nah, man. I mean, two quick ones, I guess, is a little bit life on the other side. Like, what was that first year like transitioning out? And how did you, I guess, fill up your time because football consumes so much time of our daily lives. I mean, we go in six days a week. And then how you kind of fill that in?
Starting point is 00:31:37 And then secondly, I don't know if you play chess or not, though. If you play, we need to get a game in, man. we're going to exchange numbers, and I'm a game pitching you a chess game in a second. There it is. Yeah. But that's the hardest part, and you'll hear this from every single person that got out of the game,
Starting point is 00:31:56 isn't like, isn't missing a game. I don't think, you know what I mean? Everybody misses it. It's just something you've done your whole life. But it's the structure. It's the lack of structure, the lack of routine, the lack of schedule. And so if you get out the game and you have,
Starting point is 00:32:13 a plan and say you want to go into real estate and you're like, hey, from 12 to two, I'm going to be, you know, researching houses and then from two to four, I'm going to be working out. And then you set up a routine or you go work a job and they set up a schedule for you. But people's brains, for some reason, in our field, get chaotic without it because you've had it for so long. You knew what time you had to live, what time you had to be at class, what time you had to work out, what time you have to practice. Talk about the food part of it too because, you know, it's kind of nice that they did breakfast, lunch, and dinner, and, you know. No question.
Starting point is 00:32:48 Yeah. I mean, that's a big part of it. It's just going into a facility and you just got everything, you know? Yeah. You get to work out. You get the training room. You got, you know, and you got a lot of random machines. I got a lot of, like, I got a hyperbaric chamber in there.
Starting point is 00:33:01 And I'm like, what am I going to use this for now? Like, I use it. I feel like I got my use out of it. But I got, like, three normatics and two game ready. Like, I was way too prepared. but it's just a structure. So when I was starting to get to the tail end and I felt like my body was kind of breaking down more than I would like,
Starting point is 00:33:20 I started talking to companies. I went to the broadcast boot camp and got a chance to learn and experience what it feels like to call the game and just get coached up and critique. But a lot of the executives from NBC, CBS, the television networks, and of course Amazon were there. So I started to talk to Amazon probably two years before they even had a game. And so I had that in place, you know, at least that opportunity to potentially be on that desk in place before I was done playing.
Starting point is 00:33:55 So when I was done playing, it was just, you know, going and really doing it. Yeah. And it was something I was nervous about because I had never done it. And, you know, thankfully we had Whitworth and Fitz who also were first year, first year out. and never done it. So we kind of like just formed the old brotherhood of guys. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:14 Exactly. Like we don't know what we're doing. So let's just get up there and do it. Yeah, have fun with it. Yeah. I think that's a big part of it too, though. You keep it organic and, you know, people can feel that.
Starting point is 00:34:24 Yeah. Yeah. And that's what I would say. If you have something you're really passionate about and that you feel like after the game is done, you really want to pursue, then start pursuing it, you know? And not that their career is going to end anytime soon,
Starting point is 00:34:35 but it just gives you peace of mind that you have something, to lean on when you're done. You know what I mean? Because there is anxiety in the unknown. Mm-hmm. Yeah, and that's actually something my, I'm going to echo what you just said.
Starting point is 00:34:49 It's now. It's actually some of my older brother, Eric used to tell me. And that, you know, young guys in the league, first, second, some even third-year players. You know, take care of what's important right now. That's football. Keep bread on the table, all of that.
Starting point is 00:35:03 But once you start, I wouldn't say getting comfortable, but when you start, like, knowing the game and you start knowing concepts and maybe you have, you use your time a little bit better. It's where you have some extra time to start trying to build for what's next because, you know, I watched my older brother go through it and it is so much easier to meet people as a current player than it is as a former player. You know what I mean? So just trying to do that, but it's still like, it's still unknown though once you're actually at that point,
Starting point is 00:35:34 what it's like to actually go through, you know. And the things that you've done, matter. Like you're two, two times Super Bowl champion right now, potentially three time, you know. And so that stuff matters. And sometimes you're like, man, I don't want to use all that. Why not? It's not something you was given to you. I mean, it's absurd. So maximize the value of the things that you've earned. And I think some people just just get so caught up and, I don't know. I don't want to do all that. Well, then what was the point of winning it? If I can't walk around with the title and feel good about it. I can't wear the rings and let them benefit me and get me indoors that I might not have could might not have gotten into without them.
Starting point is 00:36:15 Get me speaking engagements that I might not have gotten without two rings because now I know how to be a champion. And no matter what winning and winning culture translates throughout every industry. Yeah, everybody wants a piece of it. Everybody wants to know what the formula was. What, what what what did it make it tick? And you're a smart enough human being, obviously a Stanford man. Yeah. To be able to art. late. We should have got your brother too, but that's a story for a different day. His close. Draft Day, Harbaugh, actually said, well, you know, I didn't get you in college, but you don't have a choice now. You don't got a dang choice. We should have had you. We could
Starting point is 00:36:54 have had something special, Eric. No, that's been my TED talk. But yeah, man, I really challenge you to and whoever runs your marketing or helps with you getting opportunities, say you want speaking engagements because they want to hear. And the more you do it, the more people are going to want to hear you do it because it really helps these companies, especially startups. I've spoken to so many startups and they're like, how do we build a good culture? And for us, it's, it's so routine and regimen. It's the things you said, it's the selflessness. It's the lack of ego. It's the, you know, whatever it takes to win kind of ordeal that they just don't they don't know.
Starting point is 00:37:35 They never played team sports. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. That makes sense. Yeah. Definitely going to get on that. Right. Got to.
Starting point is 00:37:44 It's a lot of money in that. What was the other question? Think about I'll answer both of them. Now, you answer both of them. First one was the chess one. Yeah. Yeah. We're going to get to that chest.
Starting point is 00:37:56 But I've always been a big fan of you, and I'm so proud of everything you've been able to do and proud of you winning, you know, not as happy as you. you'd beating our Niners in a Super Bowl. But, you know what I mean? And I was like, God, like, you just, you know what I mean? You got one.
Starting point is 00:38:11 Yeah, said it well. No, it's all mine. It's mine. It's mine. Again. Get one. Yeah. But it's been an incredible journey, and I'm happy for you.
Starting point is 00:38:26 A perfect fit in a perfect system. And I wish you nothing but more success. I love and respect, my brother. Appreciate you, bro. Appreciate you. too. The volume. Another podcast from some SNL, late-night comedy guy, not quite.
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