The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Richard Sherman Podcast - NFL Week 15 Reaction

Episode Date: December 16, 2024

Richard Sherman reacts to Week 15 of the 2024 NFL season, including the Seattle Seahawks losing Geno Smith in a wire-to-wire loss to Jordan Love and the Green Bay Packers on Sunday Night Football, Jos...h Allen out-dueling Jared Goff in the Buffalo Bills’ high-scoring victory over the Detroit Lions, Jalen Hurts leading the Philadelphia Eagles over Russell Wilson and the Pittsburgh Steelers, the Kansas City Chiefs beating the Cleveland Browns but losing Patrick Mahomes to injury in the process, Baker Mayfield putting up numbers as the Tampa Bay Buccaneers blew out the Los Angeles Chargers, and DeVondre Campbell stealing the headlines by walking out on the San Francisco 49ers in their Thursday Night Football loss to the Los Angeles Rams. #volume #herdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:55 You don't know this. Championship. That should always be the expectation. All right, man. That's going on here. Welcome back to the Richard Sherman podcast. as another crazy week. NFC West just cannot get figured out.
Starting point is 00:03:09 Every time you think he got it figured out, you don't. Jordan Love, 20 of 27 for 229, two touchdowns. Josh Jacobs, 26 carries for a little under 100 yards, 94 yards, one touchdown, four catches, 42 yards, did lose a fumble, punched out by Ernest Jones. They controlled the game from start to finish. But Geno Smith is the big story of this game. Obviously, the Seahawks losing being tied with the Rams for first in division.
Starting point is 00:03:34 But the Rams have the tiebreaker. So currently they're on the outside looking into the playoffs. But Gino Smith, 15 to 19, 149 yards, did have the interception in the end zone to Valentine. That energy is going to tell the season for the Seahawks. It's going to, you know, if he doesn't come back, I think that that wraps it up for the Seattle Seahawks. You know, you need to start a quarterback in the National Football League. And he's leading the NFC in a number of categories. So to lose him as a critical blow.
Starting point is 00:04:04 to this team who have been rolling since the by week. Their first loss since the by week, the defense have been playing incredibly well. This game obviously didn't play their best and just struggled on both sides of the football. Struggles and move the ball offensively. When they got down there, couldn't execute in the red zone,
Starting point is 00:04:19 couldn't get the ball in the end zone, didn't run the ball as well as they had in previous weeks. They did have a big run by Zach Charbonnet, but he only had eight carries for 54 yards because they were trailing so much of the game. They were down 14 points before you could blink and never really recovered. Whenever they got opportunities like the Ernest Jones fumble, they did turn that into seven points. But, you know, two trips to the red zone and, you know, two field goals out of it isn't going to get the job done.
Starting point is 00:04:49 They do have an opportunity against the Rams late in the season if they can keep up with them and keep it tied, you know, to settle this thing once and for all. But Jackson Smith and Jigba, another consistent game, 10 catches 83 yards. DK only three catches. Tyler only one catch. And Leonard Williams still has a good game, but no sacks, no interceptions. In this game, Leonard did have a couple of TFLs on very critical plays on third and fourth down. But that's the story. They weren't able to get to Jordan Love and get him on the ground. They were able to put some pressure on him, put him under the rest.
Starting point is 00:05:23 But it didn't lead to any interceptions. They weren't able to get the forced fumble from Jacobs, which was led to points, but just not enough. And it seemed like in a second half, they found their rhythm, found a way to get these guys stopped, found a way to stop the run. You know, outside of the chunk play to Romeo Dobbs on Witherspoon, they pretty much held him in check, held them in three points until that point where they took a shot late in the game. Unexpected situation, you thought they were going to keep running the football and they didn't. This is a tough loss for the Seattle Seahawks. You know, obviously still first year coach Mike McDonald, you know, things to overcome and things to clean up. but this one hurts.
Starting point is 00:06:02 And for all the fans that thought, hey, Sam Howell, like, we need to replace Gino. We can do so much better than Gino. Again, I've been telling you behind this offensive line who has struggled most of the season, it's tough for any quarterback to be successful. This offensive line gave up seven sacks today. That's tough. You know, some of them were on Sam Howe holding the ball too long, but literally the pocket crumbled in front of them. It crumbled around him.
Starting point is 00:06:25 You know, there have been some good plays, some good changes in this offensive line, but they lost another center today. The new right guard, the new right tackle. Abe Lucas has been really solid this season, but this is one of those games. They're playing against a team that's really talented, that has a lot of really talented pass rushers, and you saw it.
Starting point is 00:06:43 You saw what a difference that can make against this team, and this was a potential 3-6 playoff matchup, and thank God you didn't have to wait to the playoffs to see that this would be an issue, and that's how they're going to attack you if they see you again. If they do run into the Seattle Seahawks again in the playoffs, they're going to attack. They're going to bring pressure consistently, whether it's Sam Howell or Gino banged up back
Starting point is 00:07:04 there. Jeff Halfley sees that they can get to the quarterback. Whether it's rushing four or sending five, they're going to be able to get there. And I think that's something that isn't going to get cleaned up this season. It's been a really good season to figure out who your playmakers are, develop an identity for this defense. And I think they have done that. I think they found out Ernest Jones and Tyrese Knight or their linebackers of the future.
Starting point is 00:07:27 I think they understand they have a really good defensive line. I got a really talented secondary, really talented receiving core, and you have to clean up this offensive line. Obviously, K9 is injured. You know what you have in him. But right now, that offensive line is going to be a thing that holds you back. And I know everybody's going to say, oh, man, that Gino play, if he would have just done it, when you're under duress and under constant pressure,
Starting point is 00:07:49 knowing that there's only so many opportunities you're going to get to get to the red zone and a chance at points, you've got to give your team a chance to make a play. He tried to give his receiver a chance to make a play. unfortunately it landed in the defender's hands and it didn't work out. But if the Seahawks can find a way to compete in this game versus the Vikings, which is going to be a tough ass. The Vikings are 11 and 2 and they're not a fluke 11 and 2. They have a really good defense.
Starting point is 00:08:12 Flores is going to bring a lot of pressure, a lot of very exotic looks. And offensively, Kevin O'Connell is going to draw it up as good as anybody. So they're going to have to find some answers to that and find a way to change the narrative and be really disruptive on the defensive side of the ball. They're going to have to block, maybe block. lock a kick or something, make a play on special teams. Darden has come in and really energized his special teams unit in terms of the returns that he had, you know, giving good field position to the offense.
Starting point is 00:08:38 But that was a tough one to watch. It was a tough one to watch because every time you felt like a team was going to make a play, that they were going to do something great, that, man, they're going to, this is going to be the one that turns around. Green Bay muffed the punt. Nobody recovered it. They got it back. They made a play on Jordan Love where it looked like it could have been a fumble.
Starting point is 00:08:54 He recovered it. So, nothing even worth challenging. you've got to find a way to make those plays. You've got to find a way to get those. That's the way you win those games, especially out at home. But the most discouraging part was probably the Green Bay fans, the GoPack Go chance that you're hearing in Lumen Field. You know, that's something I don't ever remember hearing.
Starting point is 00:09:13 I don't ever remember hearing the opposing team's chance in our home stadium. But that's a story for a different day. I think this is going to be one of those situations. They're going to look and they're going to learn from. And hopefully, Gino's okay. not a serious injury. He wasn't able to come back, but hopefully he's able to bounce back by next week and he's able to play against the Minnesota Vikings, or I think that's going to be a tough one to come out of with a win. Oh, that's going to be a tough one. That's going to be a really
Starting point is 00:09:40 tough one. If Gino Smith isn't able to play, I think, you know, and people don't appreciate him in Seattle. Like I told people, it's not easy to play the quarterback position under this, it's kind of pressure consistently. And you think you can do so much better than him, but you're not going to be drafting high enough. You already eight wins. in. So you're probably picking 16-17. If you get two more wins, you're probably picking 24, 23. You're not going to be able to get a quarterback next year. So Gino's the answer right now. So support the quarterback you have and a quarterback who actually has been putting up good numbers behind an offensive line that hasn't been blocking great. So this was a tough one.
Starting point is 00:10:18 I thought this would be a good game for if Seattle won this one to be able to like put a stamp on this season and have a real quality win and go into next week. feeling really good that you beat the Green Bay Packers and you can beat the Minnesota Vikings, not that they can't beat the Minnesota Vikings, even after this, but it just looks really bleak right now. And if you're the Rams,
Starting point is 00:10:39 you've got a much easier schedule going down a stretch. And hopefully, you know, if Seattle loses this game, it gives a cushion to the L.A. Rams. And that's, you know, it's going to be exciting down the stretch. It's going to be exciting. That's why the league designs the schedule this way
Starting point is 00:10:55 because they wanted to be exciting. And they wanted to be nail-biting down the stretch. And that's what they got. They got what they wanted. They got what they deserved. And I ain't mad at them for it. But now we got to talk about this Buffalo game. And this is our Uber Eats segment.
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Starting point is 00:12:59 versus the Detroit Lions in an incredible shootout. Clearly, clearly not a lot of defense played in this game. The highest scoring NFL game this season just surpasses last week's Buffalo Bills versus the Rams game.
Starting point is 00:13:16 It was an incredible performance by Josh Allen, actually an incredible performance by Jared Gough as well. Just the Detroit Lerner Lions defense, couldn't get a stop, couldn't find a stop. And Josh Allen, I mean, he poured it on early, got up to a 14-0 lead. The Detroit Lions were able to claw their way back in the second quarter, but sealed down seven points, and they were relentless.
Starting point is 00:13:40 And obviously, after everything that was said last week, Teddy Bruskey's comments about Dan Camel being reckless and everything, clearly all the attention and energy is going to be spent on his decision to kick the on-side kick with 12 minutes to go in the fourth quarter after your defense got a semi-stop held Buffalo to a field goal. Mack Hollins takes the ball, gets vertical, gets all the way to the five-yard line, 38-yard game, and sets the Buffalo bills up for another touchdown. And what ended up being the deciding touchdown in the game changer, and who knows what could have happened, you know, maybe you kick it and your defense gets to
Starting point is 00:14:21 stop, but they hadn't got many stops in the game. And so when you're a head coach in this league and you're seeing the writing on the wall, you're saying, hey, they have answers for us this week and we don't have the answers for what they're giving us. I'm not incredibly upset with that call. You're trying to find a way to get a possession. It just sucks the rules or the way they are now where it's so obvious and apparent that you're kicking an on side kick.
Starting point is 00:14:46 So that obviously changes the makeup of the play and surprising. somebody versus kicking it to a team that's expecting it's come because you have to announce it. I think that's what makes it a really difficult play to call now. You know, back in the day, if he called a surprise onside kick right there in that situation and they somehow got it, which more than likely you would, because nobody's expecting it in that scenario. I think it's a good call. But under this situation, it's tough to have an onside kick at all.
Starting point is 00:15:13 And I think he just realized that and he learned that you can't do that. I think they, you know, still played a really good game, only lost by seven. points. The offense scored 42 points. The Buffalo Bills offense looks incredible. Another 40-point game for them. I think once this Detroit Lions defense gets healthy, it's going to be a whole different ball game. If this is a Super Bowl preview, I think everybody would be excited to see it again. Two really good teams. Josh Allen played a good game. Obviously, James Cook had a really incredible game. Only 14 carries, but 105 yards and two touchdown. Had the 41-yard breakout run. really, really take this game over.
Starting point is 00:15:53 Ty Johnson, five catches for 114 yards, but Jared Gough, Jared Gough, what a game by Jared Gough. If he hadn't had the five turnover game, we'd be having entirely different conversations about Jared Gough. He threw it for five touchdowns, almost 500 yards through the air. Jemir Gibbs, eight carries for 31 yards, but five catches for 83 yards. One touchdown made his impact that way. Not a lot of production out of David Montgomery.
Starting point is 00:16:18 This game, only four yards on the ground. but Amun Rae St. Brown and Sam Laporta really, really took over this game at times. You know, they were the reason that Detroit even had a chance in this game. Amin Ra had 14 catches for almost 200 yards, 193 yards, one touchdown. Sam Laporta, seven catches for 111 yards. Jameson Williams, three catches for 37 yards into one touchdown. But the real story is Detroit's defense. They had no sacks, no turnovers in this game.
Starting point is 00:16:47 And obviously, that's something that's going to have to be addressed. and it's something that will change once they get healthier and they get all their players back. But still, in a game like this, after coming off a really good win against Green Bay Packers, you would thought they would play a little bit better than they played. But what you're going to do, you've got to give Buffalo Bills a lot of credit offensively. The last two weeks, they've played incredible. Josh Allen's played incredible. Looks like the MVP candidate that everybody is crowned him to be.
Starting point is 00:17:16 362 yards passing, two touchdowns, 10 carries, another two, touchdowns on the ground, 69 yards rushing. For some people, that's going to put him over the top. But again, I hate to keep reiterating myself. But the numbers, you know, this is a statement win versus the best team in the NFC. He deserves credit for that. He's pushing his team over the top.
Starting point is 00:17:38 He had four touchdowns total in this game, almost a little over 400 total yards in this game. James Cook also had a really good game. But I just think the numbers have to matter. some point. They're 10 and 3 are 11 and 3 at this point. Clearly, the class of the NFC, but they're not the one seed in the AFC. They're not the one seed in AFC. The Kansas City Chiefs are still the one seed in AFC. And I think that has to factor in to this discussion and the numbers have to factor in. You look at the game that Lamar Jackson just had. And again, they're nine and five, and they're fighting for a chance to win their division. So that matters. That factors in.
Starting point is 00:18:17 You talk about the Philadelphia Eagles, and Sequin Barclay had an off game this game, but the Philadelphia Eagles have a better record than a Buffalo Bills. So if you're talking about records being the reason why somebody's MVP, then okay, you can kind of give it to Josh Allen, but you can give it to other people if records are the only thing that matters. I think that in this discussion, you have to be nuanced, you have to look at the numbers, and you have to say, Lamar Jackson beat him straight up. And I remember that being a factor last year when they talked about the MVP race late in the season. He beat him obviously earlier in the season.
Starting point is 00:18:48 They won't face each other until probably the playoffs if they play again. But Lamar Jackson has 34 passing touchdowns right now. Only three interceptions on the season, having a really, really, really incredible season. Numbers that are comparable to his MVP year in 2019 when he had 36 passing touchdowns on the season. He has, what, a little over 3,500 yards. It's a lot closer than people were thinking. And I just want people to have that discussion because people, before last season, the last five winners, the last five winners of the MVP trophy led the
Starting point is 00:19:24 league and passing touchdowns. Now, all of a sudden, that's changed. Suddenly, the MVP goes to whoever has the best storyline and meaningful wins late in the season, not the stats. You have dominating performances late in the season, then you're the MVP, regardless of what the numbers say. Sometimes it would be the team with the best. record in a league in the best passing stats. Then you're like, oh, okay, because there were
Starting point is 00:19:51 sometimes that the year Aaron won at the last Aaron Rogers MVP, Tom Brady had really incredible numbers. I think he threw for 5,000 yards. He was pushing a ball down the field, but Aaron had those touchdowns, had less interceptions, you know, the efficient Aaron that he usually is when he wins MVP. But I just think it's more nuanced conversation. I don't think anybody's walked away with it right now. And if you're saying somebody walked away with it, then I'm scratching my head because I don't know what the criteria is for MVP anymore. I don't understand the criteria. And somebody has to explain that like I'm five years old,
Starting point is 00:20:27 what the criteria for MVP is if it's not the numbers anymore. Is it, hey, you're the most important player on your team? Because just about every contenders quarterback is the most important player on their team. Is it the best player on the best team with the best record? is it, what is it? Because I don't understand it if the numbers don't matter. If you don't have to be top five in categories anymore, because you used to have to lead the league to win MVP. And now you don't, not that Josh Allen doesn't deserve it. If they give it to them, they give it to them. You know, who am I? I'm just a guy who's explaining the trends and the way things have been in
Starting point is 00:21:03 the past. And I need to understand so that I can make better predictions. What's the criteria? But great game and great win for the Buffalo Bills in Detroit. That makes this an even more meaningful win. They beat the Kansas City Chiefs who are number one in the AFC. They beat the Detroit Lions with number one in NFC. But they also just lost to the Rams last week. So you've got to have the conversation both ways. It's not like they're just winning and winning, winning, winning, winning.
Starting point is 00:21:31 They just lost their Rams, but they are having a really great season and they continue to push the envelope and continue to win ball games. The Bills have the Patriots next week, and that should be another pretty, pretty cruise easy game for them. The Lions have the Bears, a simple, easy game for them. You know, there's no such thing as easy games in National Football League. But the Bears haven't looked very good, especially over the stretch, giving up a lot of sacks. They look dejected, looked like they're ready to go on vacation. The Patriots are still somewhat trying to compete, but don't have the star power, don't have the talent right now to compete with a team like the Buffalo Bills.
Starting point is 00:22:04 But it's a divisional game. So, you know, anything can happen. I wouldn't put past them, and I don't think Buffalo loses that game. I think they continue to win, and they win out the rest of the season. I'm looking forward to these playoffs and seeing how that shakes out.
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Starting point is 00:22:39 What a game we thought it was going to be. But the Philadelphia Eagles defense has been on a tear as of late, especially against the run. They've been phenomenal against the run. They did a really good job limiting Russell Wilson in this game. 14 for 22, 128 yards also caused a turnover on a fumble that they recovered. The Pittsburgh Steelers have been playing really, really good football this year. But one common theme that's happening,
Starting point is 00:23:05 is they've been able to run the ball well, and it's complimented and opened up their passing game with George Pickens making big plays, Fire Move, Calvin Austin, and they've had really, really good success when they run the ball consistently and effectively, and they play good defense. They turn the ball over on defense. They put pressure on the quarterback. They get sacks. T.J. Watt got hot this game. He caused some big plays, but Jalen Hertz probably had his best game of the season. He was 25 of 32, 290 yards, two touchdown. He carried the ball a little more than usual this game. 15 carries for 45 yards in a touchdown. A.J. Brown, you know, he was in the news last week and earlier this week,
Starting point is 00:23:47 just talking about what the offense needs to be more productive. That message was obviously received well by their coordinator because he got the AJ Brown on the ball early. And often he had five catches for 65 yards by the beginning of the second quarter. The Devante Smith had 11 catches for 109 yards and a touchdown on 12 targets. So they found both of their star receivers, fed them, appeased them. But Sequin Barclay, 19 carries for 65 yards. A rare, very rare off day for Sequan Barclay.
Starting point is 00:24:18 And his teammates were still able to pick him up. And you see, when the run game struggles, the past game thrives. When the past game struggles, the run game thrives. It was still a really complete game for the Philadelphia Eagles, both sides of the football. They did such a great job stopping the run. They held Najee Harris to 14 yards on six carries. They really just had to go away from the run game. They didn't have any answers.
Starting point is 00:24:42 They didn't have any answers for the Philadelphia Eagles defensive line. Jalen Carter and the boys are so stout up front. They make plays in the back end. Even when they gave up a muffed punt. And early in the game, you thought, oh, my God, that's going to be the chance Pittsburgh needs to get on the board early and flip this game. And they were able to get a stop.
Starting point is 00:25:03 They were able to sack the quarterback. They were able to put pressure on Russell Wilson. And he wasn't able to have the game he needed to have. But there's bigger news coming out of Pittsburgh. T.J. Watt leaves the game with an apparent foot injury. He came up lame on a pass rush where he rushed over the quarterback and he just started to lamp. He grabbed the back of his heel.
Starting point is 00:25:23 You hope it's nothing serious. But that's something that we have to continue to monitor because he's such an engine for this defense. He's such an engine in a stalwart in a face of this franchise that without him, it changes the whole makeup of this team. It changes the whole makeup of the defense. It changes the whole way you prepare to play the Pittsburgh Steelers. So let's all put our prayers up and our strength up to T.J. Watt and hope that he's healthy for the rest of the season or at least the playoffs when they need him to come back. Again, a great game for Jalen Hurts, getting his top receivers to football, getting out of harm's way, using his legs. when he had to accurate with the football.
Starting point is 00:26:03 You need to give him a lot of credit for this win. Philadelphia has been undefeated since Siriani got the bus cut. I don't know if it's the bus cut that hasn't, but since Siriani got it, they haven't lost the game. So they were calling for his job earlier in the season, and now I'm sure they're calling for an extension. It's crazy how quickly the tide changes in Philadelphia. They're 12 and 2.
Starting point is 00:26:28 The Philadelphia Eagles are still. the two-seat, but it's a close neck-and-neck race, and the Lions have no margin for error now after that loss to the Buffalo Bills. Nick Siriani becomes the second coach in Eagles history with multiple 12-win seasons. The only other coach being the great Andy Reed, who's in Kansas City doing numbers right now, trying to chase his third Super Bowl ring in a row. Philly, settle down. You got your coach. give him an extension, support him. He's running a ball.
Starting point is 00:27:03 You got a great team. I look forward to seeing what they're able to do in the playoffs because the way Vic Fangio has his defense playing, the way this offense is rolling, the way Secon has been rolling all season long, they're going to be a tough out in the playoffs, especially if somebody has to roll into Philadelphia to do it. Can't wait to see how that goes.
Starting point is 00:27:21 The Pittsburgh Steelers have a really tough game, divisional game that could decide the AFC North next week against the Baltimore Ravens in Baltimore. I think that's going to be a really exciting game. It's on a short week for them, a Saturday game, one less day to prepare, one less day of rest. And the Baltimore Ravens are going to be playing with that sense of urgency. They need to have this game.
Starting point is 00:27:42 And with T.J. Watt, potentially sideline, that's going to be a huge factor in that game. And you looked at what Lamar Jackson did this week, five passing touchdowns, 69 yards on the ground. I think they're going to be primed and ready. If they could find a way to win that game, against the Pittsburgh Steelers and recapture the division lead going into the playoffs, gaining momentum.
Starting point is 00:28:04 Everybody knew this would be a tough stretch for the Pittsburgh Steelers having all these division games late in the season, even as Cincinnati Bengals offensively are playing out of their minds. I mean, we can talk about Joe Burrell. He's not going to get the MVP, but he's putting up MVP numbers. Over 30 touchdowns, I think he has seven interceptions, close to 4,000 yards passing. And Jamar Chase, having an all-pro season. himself. Te Higgins having a really good season, been kind of banged up. It's going to be a really tough road for Pittsburgh down the stretch. They're going to have to figure it out
Starting point is 00:28:35 offensively, figure out a way to score more points to put more pressure on these defenses. Hopefully George Pickens' hamstring gets healthy because he's a huge factor in this offense and what they're able to do, how they're able to stretch the field and what that opens up for Najee Harris in this run game. So hopefully he's able to get back or else it's going to be a really, really tough finish for the Pittsburgh Steelers on what has been a really, really good and promising season for him. Obviously, they got some things to answer this all season, and what they're going to do with Russell Wilson, likely going to sign him to a new contract and bring him back at least for another couple of years until they find somebody else or draft
Starting point is 00:29:14 somebody else to succeed him. He's been having a really good season, helping them win ball games. I'm looking forward to that. Hey, it's us, the Jonas brothers, and guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, new? huge news. We created our own podcast called Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast. Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to our first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember.
Starting point is 00:29:45 I think it was on a call about what we should call it. And we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas. brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I broke down on my little notepad,
Starting point is 00:30:08 Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy, Not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and Friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier.
Starting point is 00:30:32 This week, my guest, S&L's Mikey Day and head writer, Streeter Seidel, help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and Friends on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Last night, a blown call changed a game.
Starting point is 00:30:53 This morning, the internet lost its mind. Highlights are trending, opinions are flying, and nobody's telling you exactly what happened. That's where Sports Slice comes in. I'm Timbo. Every episode, we're cutting through the noise, breaking down the plays, the controversies, and the stories behind the headlines. We go straight to the source, the athletes themselves, their locker room stories, their reactions, the stuff nobody gets to hear.
Starting point is 00:31:15 The laughs, the drama, the triumphs, the moments that never make the highlight real. From viral moments to historic games, from buzzer beaters to controversial calls, we break it down, give you context, and ask the questions everybody wants answered. SportsSlice brings you closer to the action with stories told by the people who live them. Listen to SportsSlice on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Sliced Life 12 and the TikTok podcast network on TikTok. Welcome to my new podcast, Learn the Hardway with me, your host, and your favorite therapist, Care Games.
Starting point is 00:31:48 And in recognition of mental health awareness month, I'm bringing over a decade of my own experience in the mental health field and conversations with so many incredible guests. I'm talking. Trip Fontaine, Ryan Clark. Sometimes when we're in the pursuit of the thing, we get so wrapped up in the chase that we don't realize that we are in possession of the thing.
Starting point is 00:32:08 And we're still chasing it. And we don't know when we've done enough. Because people scoreboard watch. Life becomes about wins and losses. Steve Burns, Dustin Ross. Because you find it important to be a good person while you hear on earth. Are you a good person because you're afraid
Starting point is 00:32:22 Because that's two different intentions, bro. Absolutely. And that's two different levels of trust. I want you to just really be a good person. Join me, Kear Games, is we have real conversations about healing, growth, fatherhood, pressure, and purpose on my new podcast, Learn the Hard Way.
Starting point is 00:32:38 Open your free iHeartRadio app. Search Learn the Hardway and listen now. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal, but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashed. human potential. Either way, the podcast Superhuman documented it all,
Starting point is 00:32:57 embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Another important AFC matchup happening, the Kansas City Chiefs go into Cleveland to play the Cleveland Browns and James Winston, Kansas City,
Starting point is 00:33:24 controls this game for most of the game. Again, Patrick Mahomes, semi-underwhelming game, 19 to 38 passing, 159 yards, two touchdowns, Xavier Worthy, six catches for 46 yards, three rushes for 30 yards and a rushing touchdown. Trent McDuffey, Trent McDuffy, friend of the program, gets his first career interception, so happy for him. We talked about it on the podcast. We hope he would get it this season. He finally got it. Love to see it. James Winston, three interception game. He asked the good Lord to deliver him from interceptions. And I guess the good Lord sent him a few more struggles before he delivers them from these
Starting point is 00:34:02 interceptions right now. Jerome Ford 7 carries for 84 yards. Jerry Judy 11 catches for 108 yards. Continues his strong season since James Winston has taken the reins of his offense. Seems like they have a really good connection. And this could be something that the Cleveland Browns could build on in the future. But the Kansas Sea Chiefs, have two games in the next 10 days versus Houston, and then they have Christmas versus Pittsburgh.
Starting point is 00:34:29 Another tough game for the Pittsburgh Steelers after playing the Baltimore Ravens. They play Kansas City Chiefs. That's a gauntlet, if I've ever seen one. And it looks like even though the Kansas City Chiefs aren't playing their best football, they held the Cleveland Browns to seven points. Their defense is still playing well. George Karloff, this two sacks in the game. We talked about the interception for Trent McDuffie, and Jaden Hicks gets interception
Starting point is 00:34:54 and Brian Cook and Nick Bolton all getting an interception in a game. The Kansas City defense ends the game with four interceptions. That's why this Kansas City Chiefs team is now considered a defensive football team because even when their offense struggles, they don't have their best game, still haven't had a game in which they score 30 points or more. They find a way to win in their 12 and 1 on the season. But Patrick Mahones is getting hit and he's getting hit a lot. If there's one thing that's a threat to their.
Starting point is 00:35:24 three p it's those tackles. And they're going to have to get that figured out before the playoffs because in the playoffs, if they continue to let him get hit like that, he's just a human being. He's already day to day with the ankle injury. I mean, I don't know what you expect him to do. I don't know what you expect him to do. I mean, it's been some really, really bad tackle play. They have some of the best interior offensive linemen in a national football league.
Starting point is 00:35:47 But on the edges, they are very weak and they're vulnerable. And I think if there's an Achilles heel to the Kansas City Chiefs team, it's the tackle play. And it's shown weekend and week out and it's only gotten worse as the seasons progress. Hopefully they can find a way to get that fixed, but usually you aren't getting big things fixed in December and January. If you haven't got it fixed by now,
Starting point is 00:36:08 it's probably not getting fixed. And if you go home, it's going to be because of those tackles. And everybody knows it, but they've overcome that before in the playoffs. Andy Reed is a wizard. And hopefully he could find a way to mask that, to help those guys to chip, to keep an action.
Starting point is 00:36:24 extra man in, maybe bring another tackle in. I mean, I guess that'd be three bad tackles. I don't know. But right now, they don't have answers. And their quarterback, who's the star in the National Football League, the face of the National Football League, is getting hit a lot. And that has to change. Kansas City Chiefs play to Houston, Texas next week in a great matchup,
Starting point is 00:36:44 a matchup that I'll be looking forward to seeing the Houston Texans are playing good football. They just locked up a playoff spot, winning the AFC South with the Col. lost to the Broncos. That's great for D'Amico Rines, a friend of the program, a friend of mine. This team got Nico Collins back, and they're going to be rolling in the playoffs. They're going to be a tough out. Their defense is playing well. Got a number of turnovers in that game, and I'm looking forward to seeing that game. The Browns are at the Bengals who are playing some of the best offensive football of their season. We'll see how that one goes. Now, let's move over to another game that has some playoff implications. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Starting point is 00:37:23 play the LA Chargers who have been playing some really stout defense. But this game, a lot of things changed. Baker Mayfield, 22 of 27, 288 yards, four touchdowns, and the one interception. Also ran for 25 yards. Bucky Irving, 15 carries for 117 yards. Rashad White, 15 carries for 64 yards and 11-yard receiving touchdown. But the Hall of Famer, Mike Evans, continues to do it, and they continue to feed him on his quest to get his 11th.
Starting point is 00:37:53 straight, 1,000-yard season. Nine catches for 159 yards. Two touchdowns. A beautiful, beautiful catch late in the game to pretty much put a dagger in the L.A. Chargers. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers score 40 points. Levante David, sack and a half. I mean, turning back the hands of time looks incredible.
Starting point is 00:38:12 Another game with a sack. Jamil Dean, who has hands like a snake, usually. And yes, I'm talking to you, Jamil. But caught him a pick in this game. Logan Hall, sack in a half. have Jalen McMillan, five catches for 75 yards and a touchdown. This is the best that Stamper Bay offense has looked all season. Obviously, a healthy Mike Evans changes the whole complexity and dynamic of this offense,
Starting point is 00:38:37 but their defense, the pressure, the pressure, the pressure on a banged up Justin Herbert. I think was the difference in this game. Justin Herbert, 21 to 33, 195 yards, two touchdowns, one interception. They were able to stop the run. Chargers ran only. 11 times for 32 yards. Lab McConkey, five catches for 58 yards in the touchdown. Quentin Johnson five catches 45 yards in touchdown.
Starting point is 00:39:01 Yet this Tampa Bay team continues to play like this. Atlanta has obviously taken a slide this season, and Tampa Bay is playing some of their best football. They play the Cowboys next week on Sunday night football. Another game they could win on their way to potentially a 10-win season going into these playoffs, which would be phenomenal. I mean, it's going to set them up. with a date with either the Minnesota Vikings or the Green Bay Packers potentially, which isn't a
Starting point is 00:39:30 matchup. I think you necessarily want, but that's a matchup this team can win if they're playing the way they have and Mike Evans and its offense is rolling like they have. And this defense is playing with the kind of ferocity and intensity that they're playing with right now. The Chargers play the Broncos this Thursday night in a matchup that's going to decide who's second in this division and have a lot of playoff implications. The Chargers are going to be licking their wounds from this game.
Starting point is 00:39:57 This defense has played really, really well. All season long have been consistently a top three defense and yards and points to give up 40 points this late in the season is, I'm sure, frustrating. But they get a chance to wash that taste out of their mouth off a short week at home versus the Broncos. I'm sure they're going to be looking forward to being able to get back out there and put a better performance up against a Broncos team that struggled a lot of this game against the Indianapolis Colts. Bow Nix threw through a number of interceptions.
Starting point is 00:40:26 I think he threw three interceptions in the ball game and showed some vulnerability there, some youth. But still, they found a way to win that ball game. He found a way to make plays when they needed to have it. And that's what they're going to need this week against the LA Chargers. I can't wait to watch that game. Now it's time for one of my favorite segments are Brightling Players in Prime Time.
Starting point is 00:40:48 This week, it goes to Baker Mayfield, of course, because Baker was out there sheffing up, and he sheffed up that Chargers defense, who's been, like I said, been playing some of their best football, four touchdowns, passing, 288 yards, very efficient, 22 of 27. What are we going to do if Baker Mayfield messes around
Starting point is 00:41:09 and gets this Tampa Bay team hot and rolling into the playoffs, and they make some noise in their playoffs, and we see them in a championship matchup, NFC championship matchup against the Lions? that happened? I'm going to say it here on the show just in case we can cut it up later. And say I said it because the way they're playing right now, they can get that done. And Baker's crazy enough to go into these games, the gunslinger he is. If they can get some stops on defense and make some plays and it's Todd Bowles coach defense,
Starting point is 00:41:39 he's known to put pressure on quarterbacks to give him really exotic looks that they haven't seen before anything can happen in these playoffs. That's why we love football. That's why we love this game. That's why we watch. That is why he is this week's player in prime time. Shout out to Baker Mayfield. Great game, brother. Now we have to move on to this game.
Starting point is 00:42:00 The Thursday night game between the San Francisco 49ers and the L.A. Rams, a defensive slug fest, in some rainy conditions. Matthew Stafford makes some plays late to give his team the lead. Kairn Williams has a really good game running the football. ball. Brock Purdy with a bad interception late in the game. He predetermined where he was going with the football and it was a mistake. I think he thought, hey, they're going to bite on this double move to Juan Jennings. They didn't bite. He put the ball up in a place where he thought only his receiver could get it, but the corner stayed on top. Incredible play by them. That ended up
Starting point is 00:42:39 being the deciding factor in the game. Not a lot of offense from anybody. The biggest storyline line came from the Debo Samuel drop, which could potentially have been a touchdown and broke this game open for the San Francisco 49ers, or the Devandre Campbell incident where he refused to go on the game. And then John Lynch tells him to leave the sideline, as he should. They're trying to work with the league on a way to suspend him and make sure he's not able to sign with another team, that he's not able to be rewarded for quitting on his team, that he's not able to get the salary and things that he's going to get because you can't do it.
Starting point is 00:43:14 And I can understand frustration. I can. You're a veteran player. You're on a one-year deal. You have incentives that are based on playing time and the amount of playing time you have on a season. And it seems as though the team is doing something to jeopardize your ability to make the money
Starting point is 00:43:32 that you could potentially make if you're out there playing. But this isn't one of those situations. They're playing the guy that is a heartbeat and is going to inject a lot of energy into this defense. And that's exactly what Drake. Greenlaw did. When he came in there, he had nine tackles in a half. He was everywhere. He was popping off the screen. I'm sorry, but Devondre Campbell, you played all season and you have not popped off the screen like that one game. And that's why the Packers cut him. And you don't ever want to
Starting point is 00:43:58 really talk bad about a guy because there's no reason to. In this situation, what should have happened is, hey, Drake Greenlaw got banged up in the game. Devondre Campbell goes in there. The Rams are trying to run the ball. Devondry Campbell is a pretty solid linebacker against the run. He stuffs. helps this defense, get some stops. The offense gets the ball. They find a way to win the game. And then they're talking and clapping you up for being able to step up in a tough situation and being a veteran and being a pro in this situation
Starting point is 00:44:27 and being a guy that the team could depend on, even though circumstances weren't what you wanted them to be. But instead, you walk off on your team. They lose the ball game. Now, this is going to be probably what the story that is written about your career. Like, this is what they're going to say. I don't know Devandre Campbell. I don't know enough of its plays.
Starting point is 00:44:47 This will overshadow just about everything you did in your career, unfortunately. And that's the sad part because you've been in the league long enough. You've played well. You've played on teams that have made the playoffs. You don't want this to be the kind of thing that defines your career. But these days, this is the kind of thing that defines your career because most people have never seen it before. When Antonio Brown does something like that and it's crazy and it's all that,
Starting point is 00:45:10 well, they just won a Super Bowl when Antonio Brown. had a Hall of Fame career. So sure, we'll laugh about that moment and be like, man, Antonio Brown did some crazy stuff at that point. But Antonio Brown is a Hall of Famer. And he freaking took over the league. He was the best receiver in the league in his prime. That's a much different situation. It's not right, but it's not going to overshadow everything that he's done and accomplished in his career, all the all pros and pro bowls and the illustrious career that he's had. And even the Super Bowl win with Tom Brady. But this, for a guy without that kind of resume. You can't do it. You can't do it because it's going to overshadow everything
Starting point is 00:45:45 that you've done. And that's the sad part. You hurt your team. You made yourself the storyline. The team couldn't even talk about the loss to the Rams because they got to talk about the guy who quit on the team. And you don't want to be that guy. And it's unfortunate that cooler heads didn't prevail and that you didn't just go out there and be a pro, help your team get this win. And then we could deal with the rest of it afterwards. You can go up to Kyle and say, hey, you know I got these incentives. Don't do me like this, guy. Don't do me like this. Don't sit me when you know I'm close to hit them.
Starting point is 00:46:17 Like, who knows if Dre even plays the rest of the season? If you would have just stayed the course, it would have worked out how it needed to work out for you. That's the hardest part. But again, the story in this game, Devondry Campbell leaving the game, obviously, this is a tough loss toward San Francisco 49ers on top of an incredibly disappointing season in which they're six and eight right now. It doesn't look like they have any chance to make the play. playoffs. They're going to have to answer a lot of questions this offseason. You know, you're hearing
Starting point is 00:46:45 rumors that Brock Purdy wants 55 plus million, which is what you expect him to want after what he's done for this team. We'll see if the San Francisco 49ers are going to pay him that. You know, every season, it seems like they have a player or two holding out for more money or a better contract or, you know, whatever the case may be. So hopefully they're able to get this one situated early enough in the offseason so they don't have distractions going into the season for the third or is it four, yeah, third consecutive season. And then they can just reset and go into a season as underdogs for a change. You know, you don't have to go into seasons as frontrunners.
Starting point is 00:47:20 And you can retool, you can refocus, recalibrate, fix the things, you know, look in the mirror, see what you've done well, what you've done wrong. And it's time for a number of changes at a number of places. You know, maybe you need to rethink the way you're drafting, address that offensive line. I think that's something they're going to do this all season, something they're going to do in the draft. And hopefully they come back, retool it. I don't think this. Everybody keeps saying the windows closing on this team.
Starting point is 00:47:46 I don't think so. I think this is a rough season in the midst of a really good run for the San Francisco 49ers. This will be the year that they don't go to an NFC championship over a Super Bowl. You know, it's not the end of the world. It's frustrating because it's such a talented team that you don't expect a season like this from them. But it doesn't mean it's the end of the road. So I still have faith. The L.A. Rams looked like they're rolling.
Starting point is 00:48:09 Matthew Stafford is playing really well. This is a good game from their defense. You talked about Jared Verst and their young guys up front really starting to flourish. Kello Witherspoon, who left San Francisco, had a really good game with three PbUs. Pooking the core looks like an all-pro player again. Seven catches for 97 yards. Kieran Williams, 29 carries for 108 yards. He says they're the big brother right now, and it's hard to argue that when they're winning the ball games.
Starting point is 00:48:34 So we'll see what this season means for the Rams. And if they get in these playoffs, they're going to be a tough out for somebody. And you never know what's going to happen in these playoffs, but the Rams are earning them a spot if they continue to play the way they have. But I can't wait. That's what December is about. It's playoff football, it's playoff atmospheres, it's intensity, it's since urgency. I can't wait to see how this one shakes out.
Starting point is 00:48:57 This has been another Sunday night recap of the Richard Sherman podcast. I really appreciate you guys joining me. every single week, whether you listen for an hour, a minute, a second. You're supporting me and what I do, and I really appreciate it. I'm thankful for you. I hope you're having a great holiday season, playing you some Mariah Carey, Christmas songs, or Run, Run, Rudolph, whatever you're into, make sure you're enjoying the holiday seasons. And if you're not celebrating Christmas and you're celebrating some other holiday or not a holiday at all,
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Starting point is 00:50:41 This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and Friends on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Winning on Clay is an art. The rallies are relentless.
Starting point is 00:51:03 And at the French Open, only the toughest survive. I'd know. I competed there for decades. Join me, Renee Stubbs, on the Renee Stubbs' tennis podcast for no nonsense breakdowns of the biggest matches, the toughest players, and the moments that define Roland Garris. She's an outsider to win the French for me. And she likes Clay. Listen, Lina Rabakina is arguably the best player in the world right now. And I actually can win on any surface.
Starting point is 00:51:27 Listen to the Renee Stubbs tennis podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of IHeart Women's Sports. Last night, a blown call changed a game. This morning, the internet lost its mind, and nobody's telling you exactly what happened. That's where Sports Slice comes in. I'm Timbo, and every episode, we're cutting through the noise, breaking down the biggest moments in sports and giving you the real story behind the headline. And we're going straight to the source, the athletes that are. themselves, their locker room stories, their reactions in the moment, and the stuff nobody gets to
Starting point is 00:52:01 hear. Listen to SportsSlyce on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Slicelife-Life 12 in the TikTok podcast network on TikTok. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal, but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's superhuman documented it all. Embedded in the games and we're not. with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth.
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