The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Richard Sherman Podcast - Steelers’ tough loss, Seahawks’ run game & Travis Hunter’s rookie grind | Week 2 NFL | Sherman & Slay React

Episode Date: September 17, 2025

Richard Sherman and Darius Slay are back! The guys break down Aaron Rodgers and the Pittsburgh Steelers’ tough loss to the Seattle Seahawks, including Kenneth Walker’s big runs, Jalen Ramsey’s versatile role, and how the defense plans to bounce back. They also dive into DK Metcalf’s revenge game, what it’s like facing former teams, and why locker room leadership matters.Plus, Sherman and Slay react to Travis Hunter’s two-way rookie grind with the Jacksonville Jaguars, debate his future as a wideout vs. corner, and talk about how tough it really is to play both sides in the NFL. Later, they chop it up about Champ Bailey, Deion Sanders, and the GOAT cornerback conversation, before touching on the legendary Jim Harbaugh vs. Pete Carroll rivalry. Subscribe for weekly episodes with Richard Sherman and Darius “Big Play” Slay!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an IHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human. Hey guys, it's us. The Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick. And guess what? We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas.

We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions. Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it. But, you know, tired and sick. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you.

you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel, help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and friends on the ice. Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Last night, a blown call changed a game. This morning, the internet lost its mind, and nobody's telling you exactly what happened. That's where SportsSlice comes in. I'm Timbo, and every episode, we're cutting through the noise, breaking down the biggest moments in sports and giving you the real story behind the headline. And we're going straight to the source, the athletes themselves, their locker room stories, their reactions in the moment, and the stuff nobody gets to hear. Listen to Sports Slice on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

And for more, follow Timbo Slicelife 12 in the TikTok podcast network on TikTok. Winning on Clay is an art. The rallies are relentless. And at the French Open, only the toughest survive. I'd know. I competed there for decades. Join me, Renee Stubbs, on the Renee Stubbs tennis podcast for no nonsense breakdowns of the biggest matches, the toughest players, and the moments that define Roland Garris. Jen should win.

She's an outsider to win the French friend. And she likes Clay. Listen, Leonard Rabakina is arguably the best player in the world right now. And I actually can win on any surface. Listen to the Renee Stubbs tennis podcast on the Iheart Radio app. Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of IHeart Women's Sports. There was a special team's blunder that happened in the game.

And I just can't imagine that conversation and what it was like. Welcome back to the Richard Sherman podcast. And you know what time it is? It's that time that I got my guy. Big Play Slade to talk about what's happened this week and hear his opinion on everything. That was a tough one, Big Play. Man, that was a very, very tough one, man.

Very tough one, man. You know, we had to, that's when you really got to lick yourself in the middle and we're like, yeah, yeah, that's a tough. That one's tough. It's unfortunate because any time your defense has two turnovers, you feel really good about it. Obviously, your guy, Jaylon Ramsey, you had a turnover second drive at a football game,

you know, after he had gave up, what appeared to be a touchdown. I don't know. I'm not watching the tape. I got to go look at the All-22. It looked like he was the nearest guy, but I know how that can be fabricated and twisted. But then he got the book,

and then, you know, you guys got that turnover. Talk to me about how you were feeling throughout that game because it seemed like it was an up-and-down game. Well, yeah, the game was very smooth, man. It was up and down when it came to, like, the third quarter, man, the mid-third and in the fourth, because I feel like going into halve time,

even though we weren't playing out. best defense we felt as we went into halftime 14-7 you know so we went in there with a good mind good set but we knew for a fact that we was not playing you know the brand of football we wanted to play and then you know then coming out you know offense go three and out and then we go out there and give up a long drive for a tough like a tie the game up that's not how you respond you know what so that's what we got to get the connection in that because that halftime swing was shit could have been big for us you know offense go out there maybe put up three to seven and we go out They get a three and out, and they come out there.

You know, so it went all bad, but we all had to look out of stuff into that mirror and be like, hey, we're a better team than this, man. We know, we got to guys that are very capable of being excellent. And we just got to, you know, play ball. And, you know, I say our A players got to play like eight players. And, you know, that's all of this. What was the most surprising part of that game? The most surprising part about that game is, to me, was the fact that I felt like the Seattle Seahawks did not, like, lose their composure.

You know, with us having two turnovers, with us getting to the quarterback at a good time, I think we sat there about a little four or five time. They never abandoned the run game. They still kept, you know, Sam Donald comfortable, as in, like, making sure you still got play actions, make sure you still are just sitting there just being just a free target for, like, us to go sack on them, you know, because of my pad rush. I feel like they did a great job with that. And I was like, you know, surprisingly, you know what I'm saying?

Definitely with us going in, up 14-7. And then they're coming out answering and still sticking to their game playing. a lot of teams kind of get away from their game plan when it's time for the guys to kind of peel their ears back and get after that quarterback, they didn't believe in that. They felt as in like, hey, we go establish this run, make sure we keep this run going, and to pay not for him. Yeah, it definitely did. It seemed like you guys did a great job on Charbonnet. But Kenneth Walker, you know, he found his lanes and found a way he would, he, you know, created some, broke some tacklers. Talk about how difficult he was to deal with in that game because it looked like, I mean, he only had 13 carries, but he had 100.

Yeah, no. That's the crazy part because the first, like the first drive, man, we started to run. We was flying around, hitting him and, you know, a lot of crack tosses and everything. So we kind of watched that from film last week. You know, we watched him against Seattle. I mean, in San Fran, a lot of crack tosses trying to get him vertical. We feel like that was coming to do that. And, man, he had some creases, you know what I'm saying? He got lactiff.

He definitely had a long run for about 30 or 40 yards. And you see him one-on-one of our safety, making a great move on him. And, you know, but, and it was really. it was, uh, it's hurting for, man. That third and 19 at the goal line, he gets another crack tossing. I'm saying? It's cold again. So you're like, you know what I'm saying?

And that's when you be like, yeah, bro, this is, this not the date. This is not the day. What was the film room like with that? Because that's the worst part. That's the part people to understand. Is you getting that film, it's not, I mean, dealing with it wants is bad enough. It's tough. But having to watch it again and he's the coaches.

And you know you got Mighty T that's a defense. of my head coach, you can tell that at that right there probably really identify you as a team. You know, thankfully that is early that that is happening, you know, not late into the season of the game. Thankfully, it's a week two. And the fact that, you know, with a defense, a head coach, minded guy, and he watching that on 30-19 with us probably can possibly, you know, still be in this game because still be down two possessions. But now we're really down two big-time scores, you know. And that's just dreadful for me. You know, I, you know, definitely at 30-19 and they just, just crack toss and get a tug.

But all the touchdowns weren't on the defense. There was a special team's blunder that happened in the game. And I just can't imagine that conversation and what it was like after he fumbled that or he didn't even fumble it. He just let it go into the end zone. And I guess he thought it was college rules because college rules, that's a dead ball. But the league, that means it's live. Yeah, it's live with the mug.

You know, that's a young kid. You know, of course we go hold him accountable. You know what I'm saying? But, hey, we all make mistakes. We never been perfect. None of his ass been. I made plenty of mistakes as of Rook when I was young. He made one, you know, hopefully like, because I try what I talked to him, because he

my little young guy, don't let that play define who you are, you know what I'm saying? Because a play like that, definitely in this type of city, definitely with this type of environment, definitely this type of standard. This team has, this organization has. That can ruin a kid career, you know, just because they can always remember the play it back. So I just told him, man, keep your head for it. Don't let that play define you who you are. are your young kid very talented and so hopefully man you know he put that behind them and i told

him too man and all the teams told him no man talk less don't talk about it no more like talk less don't even bring it up no more they ask about it just hey i'm on the big and better things man i'm gonna try to do best you know be ready prepared for my teammates so so he's doing a good mind man but i like i told him man keep your head on your shoulders man because it's tough that was tough to see yeah it's tough to be a part of it's even tougher in this in this day and age with social media and all this nonsense because they replay to play over. And oh, it used to be like, hey, man, I got to go home and see this on SportsCenter,

but after a week, it's gone, you know. But now things are living on the internet, living on social media so long, and these fans got so much access to you and send hateful things. And that's what makes it more, especially for young kids, as you get older, you just, hey,

select all, delete, you don't read none of that nonsense. And you throw a couple blocks at people, and you be done with it, or you don't even read it at all. But as a young kid, it gets in your psyche. You know, it's hard for it not to. And anybody that's sitting there saying, oh, don't let it bother. You just haven't dealt with it.

You haven't dealt with it on this level. You haven't dealt with that level of hate for you and people thinking that you don't care about something when you've worked your whole life to get here. You've worked your whole life to get in these moments. And you made a mistake, not because it was purposefully. And you were like, oh, conscientious. It was like, hey, I thought this was the rule.

Football is a fast game. Fast. As soon as he, soon as he, that ball bounced over his shoulder, it was danger. It was danger time because people are hunting, people are moving really fast, and they are trying to get him. So at that point, as soon as I didn't see him turn around,

I said, ooh, oh, it's bad. Yeah, yeah. Only thing that could have saved you is one of your teammates beat them there. Yeah, and with this new rule, man, with that being a new rule into the league with this kicking stuff, I knew that it was going to be a big emphasis

just for the NFL because it's like, it ain't saying not happening, but it's not happening in the regular season game. Mostly it happened in preseason so they ain't blow out of proportion because they know it doesn't. It doesn't count. It doesn't affect your record. It doesn't affect your person. It might affect your person that's getting cut. But not as in right now. And with it during the season,

so with that being really, like, the first time of experience of that's really truly happening and somebody actually scoring off of it, I knew it was going to be a big deal for him, man. So like I said, you know, the hate males, he most likely got a lot of them. But, man, I'll continue to keep me in his head and just, hey, man, stay focused, man. On to the next. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, it's tough. It's tough. It's one of those things you've got to, You've got to just get past and hopefully he makes a big play later on in the season and he can get past it, you know, because that'll be the thing they remember. You know, this is it be different if this was a season-defining thing.

If it's late in the year, this is the last game and that kicks you out of the playoffs or something. But thankfully, this is early in the season. You know, he has plenty of room to grow and plenty of room to make some more plays and make up for that. But I know that's tough on the kid. And it was tough on A-Rod this day. It was a tougher game for him in that offense. I know he was looking for a revenge game and he got a touchdown in the game, but struggled a little bit.

And that's frustrating too, because I've been there. I've been part of, you know, on the other side. My first game back in Seattle with San Francisco, boy, we got our faces game. I want to say they won by 40 or something crazy. And, you know, you'd be sitting there like, hey, bro, y'all couldn't, like, today, y'all couldn't do it for me back. Like, not, B-Wags had like a hundred-yard pick six, and he was sitting there laughing with me I thought, like, looking at me while you're just running, I say, hey, don't look at me.

Goddaget. But I feel you on that. Yeah, but I do that robbery. I do that robbery for real. It's real. Because I did the same thing, too, man. What I got in the Philly and I played my first time in Detroit, I was too ready, man. But I got a scoop and score for six, so I was really lit.

So I was really good. I was really good. I was feeling good. I was like, yes, yes, y'all don't let me go and training me when y'all thought it's so sweet. Okay, I got something for you. So I got some for you. So I know how DK is, man. He kind of kept it cool all week, too, though.

Man, he kept his composure. And I told him, like, you know, I asked him how he felt about it. You know what I'm saying? He kind of cool. He, you know, he's sure like, you know, hey, it's the best decision I needed to do for myself. And, you know, just because, you know, the different direction there was going,

and, you know, he saw differently. Then, you know, he had a lot of guys that he, you know, he went to war with. That's probably not going to be there with him as well, which, you know, the business is the business part. But, you know, he felt like he loved Pittsburgh. And I knew I wanted to have a big game for him, you know what I'm saying? I wanted to make show because I'm one of the ones that, hey, I understand how the person feels when you feel like, you know, you did everything for an organization.

And they either trade you away or release you, and then you come there and get a home win for them. It's a different feeling, man. So we damn so thought about them out there, man. And so let's not to get that dove for him, I'll hurt for him, too. I'll hurt for them, too. It's tough. It's tough. It's tough. It's a long season. Tell me about the conversations in the locker room. from the all pro vets.

You know, y'all got so many incredible players on that defense. You, Ramsey, Cam Hayward, T.J., Queen, a bunch of big-time guys. Tell me how to conversation, because I know, I don't know if you guys had a team-only, but I know there was a meeting of the minds after this game because there's a certain standard that each and every one of you guys hold yourselves to and, of course, the group as a whole. Yeah, so what we basically, we have, like, a team gatherer or nothing. It's more of like after the game, you know, a lot of, you know, of course, after the game,

my dad, a lot of the guys kind of stay in the locker room. And most likely it was all the vets like me, Ramsey, and, you know, all the Cam, TJ. So we're just chopping it up a little bit, man, asking like, hey, what we need to do different? Because it's early in the year. And so I was giving my perspective of how I felt about what you need to be a little bit, not saying it look crazy different, but just like the aspect of the game or how not to be too hard on ourselves or not because I told them like I ain't going to bring up my last year team, you know, because, Philly, we had the same type of schedule.

You know, we had a fourth week, then we had our bi-week, and we had the same thing this year. You know, we got our fourth-fourth game, then the by-week. And we started off the same way, one-in-one, and, you know, we were feeling like

we living up to the Philly standard. And, you know, and the next thing you know, that we turned around after the by week, number one defense in the league, Super Bowl champion, you know what I'm saying? So I told him, man, keep our composure,

and let's be detailed, man. Let's be more detailed than we ever been, and everybody just need to step their role of what their role are. And this lead, everybody's a performance-based lead. So everybody wants to outperform something so they get paid. I said, what y'all don't know is when you win games, you go to playoffs, you're getting this championship games. Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers.

And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, new? Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it.

We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty. yeah pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with the name Hey Jonas guys? I honestly don't remember.

I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast

where people could call in and say, Hey Jonas, and then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy, not quite.

Unhumor me with Robert Smigel and Friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Dave. and head writer Streeter Seidel help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes.

Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and friends on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Last night, a blown call changed a game. This morning, the internet lost its mind. Highlights are trending, opinions are flying, and nobody's telling you exactly what happened.

That's where Sports Slice comes in. I'm Timbo. Every episode, we're cutting through the noise, breaking down the plays, the controversies, and the stories behind the headlines. We go straight to the source, the athlete themselves, their locker room stories, their reactions, the stuff nobody gets to hear. The laughs, the drama, the triumphs, the moments that never make the highlight real. From viral moments to historic games, from buzzer beaters to controversial calls, we break it down, give you context, and ask the questions everybody wants answered.

Sports slice brings you closer to the action with stories told by the people who live them. Listen to Sports Slice on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Sliced Life 12 in the TikTok podcast network on TikTok. The French Open is one of the toughest tests in tennis. And I know firsthand because I competed there myself. I'm Renee Stubbs. And on the Renee Stubbs tennis podcast, I'm breaking down everything happening at Roland Garris. Every match, every upset, and what it really takes to win on clay.

Jen Chinchin win. I mean, she went down in three to Rabakina, but I'm delighted. She's an outsider to win the French for me. And she likes Clay. Listen, Lernerabakina is arguably the best player in the world right now. And I actually can win on any surface. Because if she's serving, well, good luck. Consider this your court side seat to the French Open.

Listen to the Renee Stubbs tennis podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of IHeart Women's Sports. People come get winning coaches and they will pay for it. So that's why I'm trying to sell folks. I'm trying to steer and folks like, hey, set the role that you got here and be the master at your role. I know, and we've talked about this corner play because people don't understand it is to do what Jalen Ramsey's trying to do. And that's why, you know, I know he got some criticism. First off, he got a nice book that was a heck of a play out of an awful tough route.

that outcut off the switch. Switch, yes. Okay, all right, good boy cooking today. But to switch, because he played, it looked like he played safety in that game. He played nickel. He played right corner. He played left corner.

It's tough. That's a really tough thing to do. And that's why some people were like, and as corners, you kind of like, you're prideful because it's a prideful position. I got to think I'm out here strapping, and, hey, I don't need to move for nobody. It don't matter who come over here.

number one, number two, number three. The best guy, the worst guy, I'm strapping. So I don't need nobody to bout me. But when you have a dynamic like that, it's really tough to get a rhythm when you're inside and outside. And then back there to get your press rhythm, your footwork that's necessary in these plays. And so when people are like, oh, man, he had a tough game.

It's like, hey, what are he trying to do is, like, is really difficult to do. Yeah. Yeah, so, you know, Jay got a lot on his shoulders, you know. With him playing the safety role, he'll start at safety, he'll go to Dickland Base, and then he sometimes he'd go to the corner. He got a lot. And, you know, I was telling him like, hey, man, I know you got a lot going on, man.

But he signed up for it. He loved their challenge. He loved the challenge. So, you know, he had to talk with me today just about, like, hey, man, I got to be way better, even though with him knowing so many positions, you know, he don't get no, he don't want no lead way. He don't want no patty on the bat just because of the fact that he got three positions. He didn't even like he's one of the best to probably play this game at this corner position.

So I understand him because I understand him, because I'm the same way. And then, and I told them, like, when I, we all got together, you know, when they even made the requirement to trade for Rams, like, hey, I've been telling, I've been, I've been the number one corner, a corner for 10 years, you know, in this game. And, you know, and I told folks, like I say, you got to play your role. Like, I'm not here to sit here and say, like, hey, Slay, I know I could travel and do my thing, and he, and whatever, like, I'm more of a team player, so whatever we fit to need the team to win.

If I got to be the two corner, three corner, whatever corner I need to be, I'm here to do that and maximize my ability at being that. So he understand that role for me, so I'll make him feel comfortable to be understanding his role from himself. So he understands it. It's a tough challenge, man. He knows for a fact that he feels as he didn't play his best game. He made some plays for us, of course, like he always do.

He's Ramsey. But he knows his standard is high to itself because he's one of the best in his game. So every day, you know, we go come put the work in, and he got to continue to keep better. I'm going to help him try to get better as well. myself, he will help me. So I just hope for the best one every year. Every time I go out, I know, I's a guy to go go out and get it. I think it's a great conversation.

I think it's always a conversation. I know it's a weird dynamic, but it's a conversation, you know, because people always talk about the, oh, you didn't follow this receiver. You didn't, I followed whenever I was asked to do it. Yeah. And then when somebody else struggled. Like, it's a different kind of understanding when you have conversations in the DB room and they say, hey, I want you to follow this guy.

because I don't think our other corner can do it. That's pretty much what you're saying. And so when in our locker room, I had a high respect for guys we were dealing with. Unless those guys was like, hey, sherman, that's cool. Go ahead. Then I, hey, stand up. And if you don't, I'll be over there to deal with him.

But look, I'm going to let you take a chance at it. I'm going to let you, you know what I mean? Because I believe in you. I respect your game. And if nothing else, we can lean or over there and we can figure it out. But I'm not going to sit here and bump you and diminish you and say, hey, you can't do this. So let me go strapped.

That's not necessary. That's not what we need to do. We can lean and figure that out. So I know it's just always a tough thing to navigate, especially two veteran guys, two guys who are alphas, who've been number ones, and so many things. So it's cool that you're able to have those conversations and at least, you know, comes to some common ground

and a decent respect and an understanding because both of y'all can do it. Both y'all have done it at a high level for a long time. Yeah, yeah. We got a lot of respect for each other, man. We had a conversation. We had one with you with Mike T and just like, hey, look, he understood what we at, you know, Shoot, Jay, no.

You know, he knows what comes with getting paid $26 million a year. You know what I'm saying? He knows. So he's ready for it. He always signed up for it. I look forward to it every week. I look forward to it every week. Who have I lined up in front of me?

My job is to, you know, dominate this guy. It don't matter who it is. This is Tier 1 receiver or Tier 5. It don't really matter. I'm ready to go. No question. But that's another aspect of it that I think people don't understand. Just the whole sprinting on the other side of the field, like from side to side.

He didn't got a jog back. Like, there was sometimes we didn't even go back to the huddle. Because it's like, hey, we treated it like it was too many. You don't know how in two minutes. You just be like, hey. Hey, you stay whatever. Hey, we're going to figure this out. We'll figure this out.

That's how we played it in a lot of times because it's just more effective. Like if somebody's struggling, somebody giving up some plays, Earl, step on that other side of that hash. I bet you you don't unleash no goal ball now. Not that you come over here and deal with me. And so, you know, there's other ways to now. But I think you guys are going to get it figured out. Mike T's too smart of a coach, y'all, too talented of a team. It's just a bump of the road that I know is frustrating.

How was the environment? Because that's a tough environment to play in all of Seattle. I used to hate playing there. It's still, it's not Heinz anymore. What is it now? What's the field called? It was Heinzfield back in the day. Yeah, we're a little old.

It was in Hinesfield. I still thought it was. I thought it was, boy. I'm like. In this damn stadium. Maybe not be. It's my only my second time in the stadium playing for this team in this organization.

So I don't even know the name. I barely know how to get there. Acroshore. Aquasure Stadium. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah.

Hey, I better know how to get there. I still GPS. Hey, tell me how that environment was, those fans, you know, the terrible towns, the history of that place. Man, it was crazy now that I'm on the other side of it, right? you know they got that renegade song and man look I was on the you know opponent's side at one time I listened to I'm like dang this is this is crazy and now you feel you know what I'm saying even though I felt the energy from you know from them from being just a former way team but on the

home team now that you hear it and it's like and that's what really get you corn you know what I'm back where when it comes down the third down or something like that I might be get the we red or something like that for the defense they got the renegade and they take a long time Like, they hold that clock. Like, I think it's like, they might got something with the NFL because they let, they're there, they're there in there let the whole song play out. Like, I'm like, like, it's like a TV timeout. And, you know, they get the go on them towers and stuff.

Man, it was a great environment, man. Fortunately, no, we didn't get the dove that we needed to for the city on our first home open home game, but they bring their energy, man. I never understood the terrible towers thing because I'm just looking, but it's really just a yellow tower. Why is it so terrible? I don't know why. You better be careful, be careful.

Be careful. Because they consider terrible. I'm trying to understand the culture, man. That's all it is. I'm just trying to say what makes the tower terrible. That's all I want to know. Well, in the comments, still are fans. Y'all make sure y'all educate big play.

He wants to know what the tiles is terrible. Yeah, I just want to know the education because I think they need some nice-looking tower. That's what I'm thinking. Right, right. They are some nice towel. Yeah, so I'm just trying to figure out what is terrible. Y'all got the Patriots in Gillette this week. Talk about how you y'all feel like because it's definitely one of those games where you felt like,

hey, we got to bounce back. We got to make a statement. They played a good game against the Miami Dolphins. We're able to come out with a win against the division opponent. Obviously, there's some up and down play with Drake May. But y'all got to be feeling really good about it. Yeah, it's a good time for us to go out here and, you know, another chance to go out here and perform, play at a higher level, man,

and really set the expectations of what we need to be, man. We got to make a stamp on something, man. Definitely in all phases. is run game, communication, the passing game, you know, every aspect of it. So we got a lot to do, man. The only thing that's probably been going great for us right now is special team, you know, in a great way. You know, our kicker is not missing nothing.

We have guys that's making special teams plays from last week that helped us win the game against the Jets that one turnover before then. And then, you know, special teams came up a little bit big this week. You know, we made the miss a field goal. So overall, man, I think the team for sure got to go out here and just focus, details, and we got to be locked in. We've got to send a message to the league. And it's really like, I know it's not in our division,

but not in the division. So it's the AFC. So we got to go set the tone for this team because it's some good teams in the AFC, man. For us to be one of them, we got to go out here and dominate some guys. Hey, it's us, the Jonas brothers. And guess what?

We have some big news. What's the news, huge news? We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. First people to do podcasts.

Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band. Before Jonas Brothers was... This is how you guys remember it going down?

Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast. we could call in and say, hey Jonas, and then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts,

or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL late-night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman helped make you funnier. This week, my guest,

NL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and friends on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Last night, a blown call changed a game. This morning, the internet lost its mind. Highlights are trending, opinions are flying, and nobody's telling you exactly what happened. That's where Sports Slice comes in. I'm Timbo. We're cutting through the noise. Breaking down the plays, the controversies, and the stories behind the headlines.

We go straight to the source, the athletes themselves, their locker room stories, their reactions, the stuff nobody gets to hear. The laughs, the drama, the triumphs, the moments that never make the highlight real. From viral moments to historic games, from buzzer-beaters to controversial calls, we break it down, give you context and ask the questions everybody wants answered. Sports slice brings you closer to the action with stories told by the people who live them. Listen to Sports Slice on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Slicelife 12 and the TikTok podcast network on TikTok. The French Open is one of the toughest tests in tennis. And I know firsthand because I competed there myself.

I'm Renee Stubbs. And on the Renee Stubbs tennis podcast, I'm breaking down everything happening at Roland Garris. Every match, every upset, and what it really takes to win on clay. Genshin win. I mean, she went down in three to Rabakina, but I'm delighted. She's an outsider to win the French for me. And she likes Clay. Listen, Lena Rubakina is arguably the best player in the world right now.

And I actually can win on any surface. Because if she's serving, well, good luck. Consider this your court side seat to the French Open. Listen to the Renee Stubbs Tennis podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of IHeart Women's Sports. Yeah, speaking of another AFC team, our guy Travis Hunter, was able to play 85 snaps this week. He played, I think, 30, I got to get the exact numbers, but it was a little over 402 on offense. I think he played 38 on defense.

That's adding up to 80, not 85. But, you know, that's what they tell at us. But he had three catches for 22 yards, two tackles and two passes defended on 38 snaps on defense. what did you think of his game? Obviously, that pass interference was unfortunate. I don't see how you can cover that much better. That's one of them calls where I'm like, come the F on. Like, I'm playing both ways, doing all this for the game.

I cover the 6-3-2010-pound receiver as well as I can bat the ball away. And y'all call that? Like, you can't call that right there in that spot. You can't. Definitely on the 4th and 5. I always saw the highlight on the board, man. Definitely 4-5 for a young kid that, you know, That's trying to be who he is that's the number two pick of the draft.

So I'm just happy for him. They gave him more reps on defense, for show, man. I want to see in that. And you see how the reps goes, his production getting better, you know, definitely the two PbUs. So it's big for him, man. That's big. I like that for him, man.

And thankfully, like, it's good to see him on that defense. You know, I'm a defensive-minded guy. So I want to see him play that corner. Me too. And I'm glad he got a good chance to go against some of the best receivers in this league. And he continued to keep, you know, short sports. because, like I said, we all know he gets it and very versatile. So we want to see him put that to use, man, definitely on that defense's side.

But it's, again, just to talk about what we talked about before, like you play 42 snaps to get him three catches for 22 yards. Like, was it worth it? Was it worth the energy of putting him out there for 42 snaps for him to have three catches for 22 yards? Like, you could do that in 20 snaps. You could do that in 15. Like, you don't have to have him out there.

If that's, he got six targets. Like, you could have 20 plays. So you get him out there. and get him his passes. But on defense, I thought he played really well. I thought that would have been such an iconic play for him if they don't call that nonsense on him. Because think about this, in another world, he bats that, that's game.

That's game. So Travis Hunter playing both ways makes an incredible play on defense to save the game to seal the win for Jacksonville Jaguars. That BS call just, fuck. As a corner, it makes you mad, boy. That would have been one of the biggest. his headlines as a rookie this coming week to, like just the fact

they played them snaps. They would have been talking about of course they'd have been talking about his three for 26 catches, about 26 yards, but that play there would say like, hey, Travis is this guy that we all thought he was, definitely. But, you know, that's the real fault, man. He knows you wrestle. Yeah, but

that's the thing, like, especially in that play, like, I could understand if it's a greed, just he grabbed him by the neck or grabbed him by the face. It went nothing crazy. They had to fight around. He got his hand around and tapped the ball. That's when a, come on, man.

And that's what they asked for. That's what they asked for us to do. Look, make sure you lean and locate and turn your head, look for the ball if you can get a PI. But then when you look for the ball, and when no egregious hold it, P.I. They weren't no egregious. They hand-fighting.

So if you're going to call that, then the receiver is putting his hands on him, and he's putting his hands back on the receiver. They're hand-fighting. That's part of the game. Like, is there a slight restriction, I'm sure. Are there push off from receivers? I'm sure. But those are the plays that, hey, on a fourth and five for the game, you've got to let them play.

Unless it's something egregious, it got to be outrageous. Got to. I mean, yeah. Is it, that got me high. Hey, I'm just, I'm just, because I'm like, that's my little homie. So I'm, like, hot about it because the fact that, like, that could have been a real signature play to get his, like, start off his career when they were like, maybe, remember the first time. Travis Hunter made a big time stop. He's been doing this since a rookie year at.

You know, early, early than he started off early. So that's what I'm blow with about. But I'm sure he's going to have a way more opportunities, you know, to make some type of plays. And I'm waiting for his first pick, so I didn't know, see what he'd do with that rock. You know we're going to do something crazy with it. I'm almost more frustrated because I know if he makes that play

and seals the game, it's going to put something in the back of his head about, like, hey, maybe I'm a DB. Yes, you are a DB. Yes, yes. Come join us. Come join us, man. Come on. Come on. Come on over there.

You know you want to get in that little pedal. You know you want to speed turn. I know. I know. I know scoring touchdowns. It's smooth. I know. I wish I could too in the league.

You're doing it, though. You just need 20, 25 snaps. Y'all guaranteeing six targets a game. We're good to go. Come on, man. Get over here with this island so you can come over and join the DB world. He want to be over here with us. Right.

Right. You want to be over here because that's going to allow you to reach the precipice. It's going to reach the heights. you can reach. Oh. Yeah. You go be that talent he got, man. He can be in that serious goat conversation one these days.

If he continue to keep growing as a player every year, man, God forbid injury free years and good stuff like that. So, man, hey. Come on. His ball skills, his poise, his field, like he's right there. And then, you know, you give up that play to Jamar Chase on the curl. But, I mean, this is Demar Chase. Yeah.

I mean, and that's what he's living. He got to live for that. He got to live with that. He'll be in them conversations that he know he wanted to be in. They're on the type of matchups. He got to go dominate and win. I know. They're going to come, though.

They go come, man. They go come. And he's just a rookie, but I just want him to keep getting more snaps. I like what they're doing with him. I just wish they flipped the numbers the way I need them to flip because you're wasting a lot of energy on 42 snaps to get six targets. So that mean, I mean, what, the other 36 plays? You was just out there twiddling your thumbs, getting conditioned.

Like, we don't need that. Hey, the receivers call it cutting grass. Cutting grass. That what the receivers call it. Occupine that cutting that grass, man. I'm out here just cutting grass late. That was going to tell me, boy, they're like, I'm just cutting this grass, man.

I'm just running up and down this field and coming back. I love it. I love it. Okay, we got a question from the fans, Big Play. They said, who is your best corner of all time? Now, before we go too deep in this and go down the rabbit hole, we got to do you can't forget about Mel Blunt and Mike Haynes and Lester Hayes and Daryl Green

and you got Champ and Dion and there's a lot of guys in there that, you know, could throw they hat in the ring. Yeah. My goat, of all goats right now, my goat is by far as champ, you know, he's from around the corner down the street from I'm from, man. Everybody wanted to be like champ where I'm at, and, you know, so that's always been the goat, man.

I wanted to go to Georgia because he went to Georgia. You know what I'm saying? All that, I wore, he wore number four. I wore number four. I wore number four in high school. So, like, I always wanted to be like champ because that's just like, who will go be the next champ come up?

So I did get that kind of recognition as in, like, Slame. I got a chance to be the next champ around here right now. So I had the scale out there, so I'm feeling good. So, and, you know, of course, you know, he's, you know, first ballot hall of fame, had an amazing career in college, and that.

So I don't know, but coming through high school, I was getting that kind of like love as him like, okay, we find out as another down south guy that's kind of like a champ because he was magnificent, man. Everybody tried to do everything, mimic everything. And I played corner because of him, everything. So champ, my goat always. And then he panned out the way y'all want him to pan out in the league. Shoot, I love it. I love it. Yeah, I mean, that 10-pick year he had was wild, too.

Like, I don't think people talk about that enough. That 10-pick year Champ had, boy, he was out there playing some flipball. Football, man. That's what I'd be saying, you know, everybody knows who to get eight-pick, you know, got Deion has to go. I'm just saying, like, champ definitely close to that conversation. Without a doubt. Let me get his numbers because I don't want to. Oh, Champ Buck does.

I think Champ. He, like, 55 pick, maybe? Don't worry. Don't worry. It'll be right here for you in a second. Give me two seconds. Give me two seconds. And Barney

That's 1940 Let's see 1940 No, I'm going All the way back I know I'm saying

Yeah Bailey 52 interceptions 52 I knew yeah Eon 53 Pylow 35 O'Neus Williams 55

Paul Kraus got 81 See but they They don't Hold on hold on You jump from 55 to 81 No, because I just went to the top. But they were saying Dick Nightrain Lane was up there for a while. They'd be playing, you know what I mean?

They'd be fluctuating these numbers because these numbers looked different before because they got Night Train Lane at 68 now. And Rob Woodson at 71 and Emlyn Tunnel at 79. God, oh, well, that's when the game was different. That's why fans were like, yeah, you guys don't get as many interceptions anymore because it's a different game. Like, quarterbacks were out there first off, concussed. Every time.

Barely conced up from down. they're under duress and they're not worried up they weren't worried about interceptions back then they weren't seen the way we see them now it wasn't like oh a quarterback throws four interceptions they're the worst quarterback in the world it's like hey just win the game and so they don't the whole the whole way football was looked at was different now everything is efficiency like hey you throw two picks in a game you're the worst quarterback in the world so quarterbacks are are risk averse that's why you're not getting a 13 14 interceptions going to lead to leave back in a day, you had 20, 25

interceptions, easy. Brett Far have got the most interceptions in the history of the game. He was throwing them out, giving them out like hotcakes. And so I wish we played in there in an era where they weren't treating quarterbacks like, hey, man, if you throw a few interceptions, look, don't treat them so bad

because, like, let them throw a couple to me and let me feed my family. But, you know, if you keep quarterbacks or rather eat the ball or throw it out of bounds or make it uncatchable than to throw you a book. I'm trying to tell you, boy because death with barefaw throwing what the most in the level boy that boy was like what how they was in long yard he's like uh-huh uh-mac tickets for everybody just

he threw the man where boy god lee yeah man buff that's why i'd be telling folks when we'd be always talking about this version of football and that version of football that version of football that version of football was really strictly about winning like it was really about that It was not about no stacks about if he threw for 300 yards and da-da-da. This year ever, it's all about numbers. Everybody want to bring in numbers. Numbers this, numbers that, his numbers this, and number that. Numbers do, what amos do take an effect.

But, like, when it comes down to. Big, like, he threw 336. Come on what? That's a lot. The next closest person at 277. Three hundred what? 36. And I can only imagine how many games he played.

I know he didn't play that. He probably worked. His interception percentage was only 3.3%. So it was a lot. He played a lot of games because George Blander was 6.9 and John Handel was 5.7 and Benny Tessaverte through 267, but it was only 4% of the passes he threw. So, yeah, yeah, 336.

God, damn. Boy, he didn't through 400. That's done to pick a game. I'm saying. If they were feeding like that, when we played, I have to get a 50 piece. But that's what people don't appreciate about how hard it is to get interceptions than this day and age of all this efficiency and all this, you know, me, all these eyes on it. Quarterbacks aren't going to do it.

If they don't have to do it, you've got a hunt for them. Yeah. You got a hunt for them. And the quarterbacks aren't concussed. They as comfortable as they, I was calling to Jared Golf. or I was talking to a big wit, and he said Jared Gough was telling him, some games he's not even sore after the game because they're not getting hit like that no more. I mean, they got a great offensive line, but I mean, I'm sure they take enough sacks.

They're going to feel sore, but it's a different game. And that's why the old school quarterbacks talk about it is so soft, because they had to play under such duress. Yeah. I mean, talking about really getting hit, and then you might pop up really with a fully, full-blown concussed. If you go to that sideline, you're going to fill it today. That's second.

Right. Right. Look, I know. I got 28, and I know for a fact for that, if I played in 1960, 70, 80, shit. I'm having 50 of them. Give me 50. Yeah.

With you, you're probably at about 60, 70. I do all that got me about 50. I would have been over that water every year. Like, let me get a car. I ain't dropping too many of these books now. Not. And then it wasn't so bad about the gang. Back then, it was no time.

It was that much crazy rock combinations, man. That thing would have been, no, me, you already was picking all the fade balls. Look, I saw, you see some of them routes from back of the day, and I love them dudes because they could play. But it just was different. The Christmas wasn't, you know what I mean, it didn't need to be. I mean, they, they, they come. It's a different game, but.

It's a very different game for sure. But it's all of respect from guys. It was a different thing. Now they're asking how deep was the hardball Carroll rivalry. Understand this. Y'all can look this quote up. When Pete Carroll was asked, did he have anything fond to say this week about but Jim R ball?

He said no. I have no fond memories of him. That's how that rivalry goes. Look, Jim has changed over the years. Jim has gotten a lot better and more peaceful, more, you know what I mean, cordial. But he felt that way, too, about the rivalry for a while, at least while we were at Stanford. I think over the years, you know, if bygones are bygones, he's let a lot of things go. I don't know if he's let go.

but I'm interested to watch this game tonight because that's gonna be a dog fight but I don't think there's any love lost or love found between them two, Big Play. Hey, I know it, hey, that's crazy, though, that you play for both of them. So it's like, that's almost asking you your question, I don't even want to put you

in that tough buying that, but I ain't gonna put you in that tough buy on there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I didn't play for both of them a couple different times. You know what I'm saying? So I'm like, I ain't even gonna put you that bar out of it, but I know, boy, that's gonna be so. And for real, though,

how Pete be looking and how he'd be running and been out of it. He might be the most in shape man I've ever seen in my life at that age. But he might be ready to box him too if he read it. Yeah, yeah. He definitely, look, he's going to be in shape for it. He's going to, he maximizing that, what, 73, 74-year-old body he got. Man, I'm telling you, I ain't ever seen it. I'd be sending him doing push-shel.

I'd be sending him running up and down the field, sprang, throwing the ball, playing quarterback with the team. I know he'd be throwing ducks out there, but he's still throwing that back. He's way, he's way, he's way the best quarterback to ever play. But I appreciate your Big Play for joining us. I know this is your off day coming up, and you got things to do, people to see, places to be, as always. It's all love, brother.

All right love. You already know what time it is. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Appreciate you guys joining us, too. You could be anywhere in the world, but you're here with me and my guy Big Play, and we appreciate that. Hit that sub button if you knew.

Hey, guys, it's us. The Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick. And guess what? We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas.

We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it out. We're the first people to do podcasts. We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions. Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it, but, you know, tired and sick. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it.

Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smigel and Friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman helped make. you funnier. This week, my guest, S&L's Mikey Day and headwriter, Streeter Seidel, help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and friends on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Last night, a blown call changed a game. This morning, the internet lost its mind,

and nobody's telling you exactly what happened. That's where Sports Slice comes in. I'm Timbo, in every episode, we're cutting through the noise, breaking down the biggest moments in sports and giving you the real story behind the headline. And we're going straight to the source, the athletes themselves, their locker room stories, their reactions in the moment, and the stuff nobody gets to hear. Listen to Sports Slice on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Slicelife-12 in the TikTok podcast network on TikTok. Winning on Clay is an art. The rallies are relentless. And at the French Open, only the toughest survive. I'd know. I competed there for decades. Join me, Renee Stubbs, on the Renee Stubbs

tennis podcast for no nonsense breakdowns of the biggest matches, the toughest players, and the moments that define Roland Garros. She's an outsider to win the French for me. And she likes Clay. Listen, Lerabakhina is arguably the best player in the world right now, and I actually can win on any surface. Listen to the Renee Stubbs tennis podcast on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner, of IHeart women's sports. This is an IHeart podcast. Guaranteed human.