The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Richard Sherman Podcast - Why Jerry Jones is HURTING Cowboys with Micah Parsons mistake

Episode Date: July 24, 2025

Richard Sherman reacts to the growing dysfunction with the Dallas Cowboys and calls out Jerry Jones for creating drama before the season even starts. From public shots at Trevon Diggs to delaying a well-deserved extension for Micah Parsons, Sherman explains why the Cowboys front office keeps getting in its own way. He also dives into Russell Wilson being named the starter for the New York Giants, reacts to JC Tretter stepping down from the NFLPA, and weighs in on Jamal Adams reuniting with Pete Carroll. Plus, Sherman salutes the retirements of Tyrann Mathieu, Philip Rivers... and maybe himself. 00:00 – Intro / Jerry Jones sparks drama over Cowboys stars12:03 – Russell Wilson named Giants starter13:39 – JC Tretter resigns from NFLPA16:50 – Jamal Adams signs with Raiders & reunites with Pete Carroll17:34 – Tyrann Mathieu & Philip Rivers officially retire  #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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And I know it's only been a couple days, but there's always news. And of course, the Dallas Cowboys Jerry Jones just cannot help himself. He says, hey, there's not enough controversy. There's not enough drama. There's not enough issues with my team right now. So you know what I'm going to do? I'm going to create some. He talked bad about trade digs.

Should they have paid trade digs? Yes, you should have played trade digs. You're playing really well at the time. He was healthy. He had a lot of interceptions. You paid a guy. But now he's been injured for a couple of years. You think, oh, man, should we have paid him?

Should we have paid steel? What about deck? We made him the highest paid and he missed a couple games. It's football, Jerry. It's football. It's been football. That's the risk you take.

Paying guys. These are still great guys that play well. Every year, Jerry Jones starts the season talking about his best guys, and rarely ever talking positively about him. And you know what? I don't mind Jerry talking in the media. But if you're going to talk in the media

to start the season and say, hey, I don't think my best players are worth the money I'm paying them because they're always injured. They didn't play as well as I thought they would. I'm kind of having second thoughts about why I paid them. Jerry, I could tell you this. I could tell you this. That season probably ain't going to start off how you want.

It's not. It's not. You want this season to end in the Super Bowl, I don't know how many seasons start off with the owner of the team, the general manager, the person who run in the show saying, hey, my best players, I'm not getting enough out of them and I'm paying too much. I really don't. And then arguably your best player, and I've been saying this for years, you haven't paid at all.

You have not given a contract. And you could have paid Michael Parsons when Nick Bosa got his five for 170. You could have paid Michael Parsons right then and there. Got a discount. Because now, now the price is only going up. That was $34 million a year. T.J. Watt just got $41 million a year. You were going to have to go above what T.J.

Watt just got because of my money. Michael Parsons age, his production, his consistency, or somebody else will. But I've said this for at least the last two years. It's something weird about Dallas in their relationship with Michael Parsons. The Cowboys front, not the players, not the fans, not the scheme, not anything. The front office, Jerry Jones, in his relationship with Michael Parsons. I said it's been odd. Like, it's almost like they don't like him.

They don't like him or they don't, or they feel like they know something, or the rest of us don't? Because just objectively speaking, his numbers speak for themselves, his accolades speak for themselves, and all those things scream, pay to me.

But they haven't paid the man. His production's there. And people are like, well, they haven't won a Super Bowl. Miles Garrett, $40 million. Cleveland ain't ain't sniffed the Super Bowl T.J. Watt,

$41 million. Pittsburgh was not in the Super Bowl last year, not by any stretch of their imaginations. Daniel Hunter got $35.6 million. They went to the playoffs, but he went to Houston to get that deal. Max Crosby, 35.5 from the Raiders, the respect he deserved.

But you know what I like about this? I like the way Trey Diggs, and Micah Parsons are handling it. They said, okay, Jared, you want to play this media game. And that's the difference between the players these days and players of the past. Players in the past, you kind of just got to shut up and just, you know, play and say all the right things

and hope that the front office does what you want them to do. Not anymore. Not with social media. not with all this media access. If you want to throw daggers, Jerry, the players can throw them right back. But it just makes everything look really dysfunctional. But Michael Parsons did a great job. He was calm.

He delivered a good message. Hey, I've done everything I could do to put myself and my family in a position to get paid to what I deserve. And that's all I'm asking for. The reporters are like, are you holding in? You're holding? Now, clearly he's holding in. Clearly, if they paid him tomorrow,

he'd be at practice, practicing as hard as he could and playing a good game and doing everything, being a player he's been. But at some point, you've got to protect yourself. At some point, you've got to say, hey, enough is enough. Like, I'm out here putting myself in danger, and y'all didn't make me get all the way to my contract year

and still haven't paid, not even answering my agent's calls. And David Mullagetta is one of the best out there, if not the best, aging in the business. So if y'all not picking up the phone, it's not like he's saying something crazy to y'all. David Mulligetta has done a lot of these incredible deals.

I think he was in on the, the, uh, Jaden Higgins deal with Houston, which became the first second round pick to get the fully guaranteed deal. Of course Mulligata got his hands on it. He's been a part of a lot of these guaranteed deals,

a lot of these huge deals. Jalen Rampingham. he getting his deals. You look at DB play and you look at DB's getting paid and majority at the time, you're going to see David Mullet get his name attached to it. Micah Parsons and quarterbacks too, shoot. I mean, he has a lot of great clients in his league long list. But for them to play this game with Michael Parsons unnecessarily when you could have paid this man years ago and saved yourself trouble, headache, money, you're going to save yourself $7 million a year if you just paid him a couple years ago.

And I said this, but Gary Jones refuses to get out of his own way and get out of the way of the Dallas Cowboys. They're the only team in the NFC that has not made an NFC championship game since the 90s. I think it was 96. As their fans, I'm sure the fans have to be frustrated with this. You've got to be frustrated because it's not. like you don't have a talented team.

They draft as well as anybody. I think they got the most all pros drafted in the first round over the last decade or two. Like you're drafting a right guy. You're getting superstars. You're handling it in a way that, hey, C.D. Lamb, a guy, all pro. Trey Diggs, been an all pro. Michael Parsons, all pro. Like, you're getting guys.

Dak Prescott, all pro. But you can't talk about him like that, Jerry. You're going to say, Michael Parsons, man, he didn't play a lot of games last. year. He missed six games. The man missed four. You can't run a team and say your best player missed more games than he missed. It just sends the wrong message. And I don't know, I don't really know how you fix this. I don't know how you come back and get in front of a mic as Jerry Jones and say, my bad, like, Trey, we love you. Michael, we love you because behind closed doors ain't enough at this point. You made it public. They made it public. It's going to have to be a joint

press conference where everybody says, shakes hands, hugs, we're all good while Michael Parsons is signing the highest paid non-quarterback deal in the National Football League. But is that going to happen? I don't know. The way Jerry works, I don't know. The way Jerry works, he's going to, is he going to franchise Michael Parsons? I hope not. I hope not. I hope it doesn't get to that point. I hope Michael Parsons gets 41 and some change, million dollars a year, over five years, with most of it guaranteed, and he can continue to play at a high level.

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news because the Cowboys, I mean, Jerry Jones, not even the Cowboys. Cowboys got a really talented team, a great roster. They got a new head coach who was their offensive coordinator and Shottie. I think, you know, without these kind of distractions, this is a promising season for them. You know, obviously it's a stacked NFC East with the commanders going to the NFC championship. The Eagles coming off a Super Bowl win. It's going to be a battle for that division. You don't need to it harder on yourself, Jerry. You don't need to go there and say, make life harder for your players and make these kind of things the topic of the conversation instead of the season. The season hasn't even started. There's not bad things happen yet. They're not, there's not bad plays. They're not

bad games. But this is just bad. This is as an owner, as a GM, this is about as bad as you could say going into the season. This is a way a GM gets in the way of his team. our owner gets in a way of his team. But in other NFC East news, Russell Wilson was named the starter for the New York Giants. Brian Dayball announced that the other day, which is expected.

They paid him $10 million to come in here and be the starter. Obviously, they drafted Jackson Dart. They brought James Winston in, but they gave Russell Wilson that money to have him be the starter. This is a very tough situation. but clearly he's shown enough for Day Bowl to name him the starter at this point.

Hopefully he could have some success. I'm sure if things go the way they have for the Giants the last few years, people will be, you know, calling for James or Jackson Dart. James has been very productive in this league. Jackson Dart is the young up-and-coming rookie that, you know, anytime somebody has a new toy, they're always excited about it. So we'll see how that goes for the Giants. Obviously, Malik Neighbors is a tremendous weapon.

It had a great season last year. And they had some success, you know, intermittently throughout the season. So hopefully that situation works out really well. The offensive line has had its issues, of course. So if they can keep Russell Wilson upright, I'm sure he'll feed Malik neighbors and maybe they'll be able to have some success early on. Obviously, we'll keep a very good eye. close eye on that situation, but congratulations to Russell Wilson on being named a starter.

On to some NFLPA news. J.C. Treader resigns from the NFLPA. I'm not sure how I approach this because there's a lot of things being said about J.C. Treter and the way things were handled and these backdoor deals that were agreed to. I was in the NFLPA. I was on the executive committee. I can tell you this. we didn't know anything about any of the backdoor deals being done, anybody agreeing to deals

about suppressing salaries, et cetera, et cetera. If we didn't know, I've been the first to come out and say something. And so would he. So would he. He's a stand-up guy. He put a lot of effort, a lot of energy during his time to try to elevate the players, elevate the NFLPA, and the way players respected it. he's the guy who came up with the player survey,

the NFL PA All-Pro team. He's done a lot of things to try to change the narrative within the NFLPA. So I could understand why he would resign and say, enough's enough, man. I've given blood, sweat, and tears, and for people to talk about him in the way they're talking about him, it's probably really frustrating. It's disappointing to see the deals that have been done

and the conversations that have been had without the approval of the executive committee. And I'm sure players are going to be frustrated and make their thoughts heard. Obviously, the executive director resigned. J.C. doesn't want to be considered. I would guess likely it goes to Don Davis, who's an incredible leader. But there's obviously some things that need to be fixed and need to be addressed. It's unfortunate.

I think the story is being made. the conversations being had or, I mean, they're revealing and they're frustrating and they're, you know, and everybody has an answer. Everybody's like, man, this is the worst. They need to do this. They need to do that. Unless you've set in those meetings, you set in those buildings, set in those conversations, like, it's hard for you to have an input on it because you don't really know how these things

work. But I know that the players and the men in that building care about the league and about the guys and have done everything they could to push the game forward. Unfortunately, this is some backdoor activities that went on that guys didn't know about, and I'm sure that's what's going to be addressed. So we'll see how that goes. I'll keep an eye on it and keep my ear to the street. But it's an interesting time for the National Football League and NFLPA because you can't have it.

You can't have it. And it's good on the reporters and everybody who was able to get the information and expose it and put it out there. So that truth can be out there. Nothing wrong with the truth being out there. I don't think anybody's upset about that. And if you're upset with that, then it says more about you than them. But something got to change, clearly.

The Raiders signed Jamal Adams. Pete Carroll, he and Pete Carroll have a reunion. That's an interesting move. We'll see how much he has left in a tank and what role they'll use him in. when he was in Detroit, it looks like they used him as kind of a rover outside linebacker deal, which I think, and it's probably a good fit for him to play. I think it's hard to put him in coverage in some of those situations, and it's shown on tape.

But he is very effective as a blitzer, very effective as a tackler, plays fast, and can have an impact in the role if he's in the right role. So it could be good. It could not be good. We'll see. We'll see how that goes. Tyrone Matthew and Philip Rivers retire. That's pretty cool.

That's pretty cool. I mean, Tyron, you know, got a lot of respect, had a lot of battles when he was in Arizona, continued to elevate, had a battle on the Super Bowl with him when he was with the Kansas City Chiefs. One of my favorite players, a great human being, guy who got it out the mud, was one of the best players in college football, got to the league, dealt with some injuries, dealt with some anniversary, and continue to find a way to persevere and inspire and elevate himself in his game and his team. And congratulations. Hats off to an incredible career. Philip Rivers retires after being retired. Congratulations to Philip Rivers. A great quarterback. Had great battles with him. Fun guy. Incredible competitor. I guess I got a

announce my retirement too. I'm Richard Sherman. I'm retiring from National Football League. You will not see me put pads on anymore. I'm doing TV permanently since, since, you know, if Philip retiring like that, then I got to retire to. I guess you got to announce it. I thought, I thought people just got the point once you stopped playing for a couple years. It was, it was done. It was over with. But congratulations to those men. Those are, those are great players. The game will miss them. But tremendous, tremendous guys. tremendous teammates, tremendous players. I'm thankful to have gotten to compete against them and enjoy their game.

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