The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Richard Sherman Podcast - Xavier McKinney on 2024 Packers, Nick Saban & Alabama, Brazil game vs. Eagles

Episode Date: October 10, 2024

Richard Sherman interviews Green Bay Packers safety Xavier McKinney. Richard talks to the former University of Alabama standout about his relationship with legendary Crimson Tide coach Nick Saban, falling to the New York Giants in the second round of the 2020 NFL Draft, signing a four-year, $67 million contract with the Packers this offseason, and forming a stout secondary in Green Bay alongside All-Pro corner Keisean Nixon and Pro Bowler Jaire Alexander. McKinney also breaks down his NFL-leading five interceptions and explains why he wasn't a fan of the NFL's decision to hold the Packers vs. Philadelphia Eagles Week 1 matchup in Brazil. #volume #herdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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terms, and responsible gaming resources. The volume. Notice, sir. You don't know this, sir. That should always be the expectation. All right, man, that you go on here. Welcome back to the Richard Sherman podcast. We got an incredible guest leading the NFL and Interceptions with Five Xavier

McKennie of the Green Bay Packers. Appreciate you join me, brother. Yes, sir. I appreciate you for having me. No, it's a blessing to have you. You're having a heck of a year right now, man, and you should be proud of yourself. You're already at your career high and picks. How are you doing it, man?

Just preparing the right way, man. You know, I think, you know, this year is the first year where I'm kind of just letting it loose, you know, letting my instincts kind of play out and just trusting them, believing in what I'm seeing and just going out there and tackling me and making these plays. So, you know, it's been great. Just kind of, I kind of hit the reset button, you know, once I got to Green Bay and kind of refreshed my mind. And I knew, you know, once I got here, it was time to hit the ground running. Well, we're going to start from, we're going to step by step. step through your journey because you've been an incredible journey and to come in, we're going to start at Bama. Coming into Bama, you enrolled early, you went a Natty. Like, that got to be

incredible. I never got to win a Natty. We went one of the 11 when I came in to Stanford. And I said, oh, this might not be for me. Yeah, that's a little rough. That's a little rough. But talk to me about Sabin and your relationship with him because one thing he does, he puts D.Bs out And he puts them in the league and they usually do really well. And obviously, you're another case. For sure. Yeah, no, our relationship was tight. I think ever since, you know, once he started recruiting me in high school, you know,

we were kind of building that relationship. And then once I got there, you know, my freshman year, like, he was always on my ass. And, you know, I always used to kind of get kind of frustrated with it. But, you know what I'm saying? People would always tell me, like, that's a good thing that he, you know what I'm saying, always trying to, you know, get me to be better, give me to do this, give me to do that, because that means he actually, you know what I'm saying, he really cared for me. And he actually think, you know, I could be, you know, really good at, you know, what I'm doing.

So as that kind of, you know, as my years went on, we built that relationship. And once I gained, like, his trust, I think I gained his trust probably, I would say, like, my sophomore year, but, like, in practice. And that's when I really started to see that, that trust level, you know, within, you know, to me, just kind of let me, you know, just be the player that I was and he wasn't trying to overcoach me on certain things. And he just finally gave me that ability to just go out there and play. And, you know, ever since then, you know, it was kind of, you know, history from there. But just kind of him coaching that, like, always that perfection. I kind of saw how he handled

his business and went about doing things as far as how he coached and, you know, just how he talked, just what everything would seem so calculated. You know, that drove me. you know, at an early age, you know, seeing that because I never, you know, you never, you never see things like that. So when you see that at that early age, it kind of, you know, sticks in, you know, it sticks with you. And that was something that really stuck with me. And I try to just carry that on as I, you know, continue to keep playing. So as you go through, you know, you have a really successful career at Bama. You're going into the draft process. Where did you expect to go?

Man, so everybody was saying like 17. team. That was the Cowboys at the time. And then I had a, you know, a lot of stuff happened, you know, up until the draft, obviously went to the combine, didn't run the 40 that I wanted to run. And, you know, I'm saying I slipped. And, you know, teams were trying to kind of get my, like, my speed numbers from practice. And my thing was I told them, I was like, no, you like, I knew what my numbers were for practice, but I'm like, y'all not getting those because my film going to tell you everything you need to know. And so I thought I was going 17.

And then once I didn't, you know what I'm saying? That day was kind of crazy for me because I didn't go in the first round. And, you know, that was another thing that kind of stuck with me was I just felt devastated. And, you know, I knew that, you know, it was a lot more work to do. And that was something that kind of added just kind of another chip on my shoulder. Yeah, sometimes it's a blessing in disguise. You know, you don't got that fifth year, and now you get to free agency faster. At the time, it seems like, man, everything is lost.

And then you get to that fourth year, you're like, wait a minute, I'm to the money quick. Yeah, no, fact, that that's exactly what it is, bro. It's like you never notice it. Like, obviously when you're young, you're not really thinking about, you know what I'm saying, all of that stuff. You kind of want to be, you know what I'm saying, almost like the quote unquote, the start of show, you know what I'm saying, the first round or whatever. But, you know, when you get in the league and start to realize, you know, how the business part up to work, you're like, hell yeah, I'm glad that, you know, saying things worked out

out work out. Right, right, because they could have controlled your rights for a whole another year. You would still be in New York. You know, you might get your fifth year money, but it wouldn't be as much you're making now. For sure, for sure. And then you have some really good years in New York. You know, I don't know about the internal workings, but they wasn't winning a lot of games, regardless of how well you playing. What went into your decision to go to Green Bay? Because not a lot of people, not a lot of people going to Appleton. Yeah, it was a couple things. I had, when I was with the

Giants, we had played the Packers. I had played them twice previously once in London and then once at home when I was there. And I just saw like how they played all the time. I saw the urgency with which

they played with, and then I saw the potential that was already here. And obviously they had a slow start last year, but later in the season they really picked it up. and they got pretty deep in the playoffs. And that was something that was really intriguing to me. And then on top of, obviously, my college coach, well, that was my college coach,

my freshman year, Derek Ansley, he ended up coming here. And so that was kind of like another thing that drove me to definitely landing the spot. And then knowing that, you know what I'm saying, it's a winning organization. And then on top of, obviously it's Wisconsin. But I thought for where I was at in my life and where I was at, my career, like, it was time for me to really lock in and focus and lock in on what I trust and that's football. So, you know, I thought the timing was perfect for me.

And I think this was a perfect spot for me. Yeah. I mean, you've got a full offseason to do everything you need to do, you know. That's what sometimes when kids are young, I don't want to say kids, but grown men. But when you're young, you feel like, man, I want to go somewhere fun. It's like, no, no, no, no, no. You want to go somewhere born. Exactly.

And that's the thing, too, is like when you go to a, like when your first team is a place like New York, and like I feel like I've seen, I didn't seen a lot of stuff, you know what I'm saying? So it's like, for me it's like,

all right, I did that part of my, that chapter is kind of, you know what I'm saying? That chapter is over. It's time to, you know what I'm saying, get to my next chapter in life

and in my playing career. And I just feel like this was the right place to be. I agree. I agree. I mean, it looks like it worked out perfectly. I mean, you come there. I'm sure the floor has been great, but you also have Hathley and Jeff Hathley.

I got a lot of experience, a lot of love, a lot of appreciation, a lot of regard for Jeff Hathley, and my time with him. Tell me how he's been because obviously, you know, this is his first year with the team, but you're all leading the league and turnovers, you're a big reason. How has he been? He's been great. You know, he's just every week consistently providing that transparency and always communicating with us if we don't, you know, saying, want something in the game plan or if we

see something differently, you know, all we got to do is, you know what I'm saying, text and call them, go to his office and, you know, saying we could switch, you know, whatever it is. So I think that's really been the best thing. And he pushes us to not only, you know, I'm saying, know what's going on, but be great in the scheme that, you know, I'm saying, he's teaching. And so I just think it's been good all around, man. We all feel comfortable. He's just giving us a feel where we could just be ourselves and we can go out there and play freely and play fast. I think that's the biggest thing to our success early is just going out there, being able to play fast, not making the game playing too much or too overly complicated, just giving us our rules and us locking into those rules and going out there and executing. Man, he's such a great preparer.

I don't know many coaches that prepare as well as he does. like he's going to make sure you have every look that you need to see. Like the looks he gives you in practice is the looks you're going to see in that game. Tell me if I'm right. Now, you know, you spot on with that one. Like we, because I know I'm meeting with them, like I'll meet with an extra. And usually we will meet like Wednesday mornings. We really read Wednesday morning, Thursday morning to kind of get,

he just telling me the game plan, see if I see anything differently. But he'll show me like, you know what I'm saying? cut-ups of, you know what I'm saying, different stuff. And, you know, he just always on top of it, bro. And it really shows and it really helps us out when we got there and play. Now, let's get to your picks because you've been booking everybody. You know, lead the weapon. Book them, Danny.

You got the one against Minnesota, they always say it's controversial. All right, look, it's hard enough to play defense. I don't want to hear nothing about all he, did he catch it? Yes, he called it. You know what I mean? Y'all get away with all this nonsense. Let us get away with something from time and time. Man, I'm telling you.

Are these all covered two because a lot of them look like covered two. And if you robbing people in cover two like this, my guy, you are a talented human being because you are. So the first one, it's funny. So the first one was covered two. The Eagles pick was covered two. And the others were I was in the, we was playing 3D. And one of those three deeps that we was playing, the one in Minnesota, I was actually a hook drop, a week hook dropper. So I've kind of been in all kind of different spots and being able to just try to, you know what I'm saying, make these plays.

So, yeah. The ball is definitely fine. You don't want with Philadelphia just looked like a real good read, but let's talk about Brazil because first of all, you're not getting me out to Brazil without a lot of security and a lot of, you know, so good, good job by your hope. But tell me how that experience was because it looked, it looked tough. And from what I'm hearing from some of your teammates and from some guys on the other side, it was just a lot different than what you will want your NFL game day experience to be. For sure, yeah. I mean, I wasn't, I'm being honest, I wasn't really a big fan of the Brazil trip.

Just for the simple fact, like, when we went to London to play, it was a lot different. Like, we had a lot more freedom. We could go out into the city, kind of do what we wanted to do, whatever case may be. Brazil, we had to stay in the hotel the whole time. Like, I remember my teammates. They was trying to walk down the street to go to, I think, McDonald's or something, and they couldn't even do that. And it was like, it's like 10 steps away, you know what I'm saying?

And they weren't even letting us do that. So we was just kind of cooped up the whole time. We wasn't able to do nothing. We weren't able to see anything. And obviously, we had the security 24-7. And then on top of the field was kind of like, I don't know, you watched the game, like. The field wasn't great.

Everybody was slipping. So, like, it wasn't the best experience compared to how it was in London. And to me, like, you know what I'm saying? They even told us before the game, like, to not encourage, like, our friends and family to come to the games. So it was just kind of like what was really the point of this. But, yeah, that's kind of my, you know, my two cents on that. Yeah. They just wanted to say they did it.

You know, it's one of those things. The NFL was like, yeah, we did Brazil too. We're going to Germany. We're going to this. And it's like, well, sometimes you've got to think about the well-being of the players and the health of the players and just the comfort level of the players. Like, give us a heads up. Give me a say-so in this because my state vote is no.

I'm not going. Yeah, yeah. And in my contract to play out there. I'm a United States. Occasionally London, but you ain't Brazil. You know, no offense to all my Brazilian fans. But it's different environment over there. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged.

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Tell me, because I think being in rhythm is something that a lot of people don't really understand, especially if you never, you know, it's like a three-point shooter. Like the rim looks big as ever. You know, right now it seems like you're just in rhythm. You know, you trust your instincts like you said. you're feeling good. You trust in your film, you're putting in the work,

watching the film, I'm sure, in practice and walkthroughs, you're booking everybody because you're so locked in. And even the fumble recovery you had, like the ball is just fine, you're right place, right time. Sometimes it's your time, baby.

Yeah. No, yeah, that one was crazy too because it's funny because when you look back on the film, like I was asked, I saw the ball get punched out. And so I'm celebrating, you know what I'm saying?

Because I'm in the back. And like, at first time, I was not close. I wouldn't even close. I wouldn't even close. And then next thing you know, it just popped out right in front of me. I'm like, and everybody has stopped playing. Like, everybody kind of just, in the pile, they still going after the ball,

not knowing that they not even know where near the ball. And then everybody else around it, they just walk in and not even know, they're thinking to play over with. And the next thing, though, I see the damn ball. And I'm like, oh, shit, I got to grab that. So then that's how that worked out. So, yeah. Now you got to get to the grip.

So, I mean, you're at five right now. So it's, Trayvon Diggs was the last one to get 10. And it wasn't that long ago, but still 10 is rare. You know, before him, I think it was a decade. I think you can get 10, but we ain't going to talk about that. I want to jinx nothing. I don't want to keep playing your game, doing what you're doing. Talk about your relationship with the other guys in the secondary.

Because obviously, my little bro, Kishon Nixon is there. He's been there. Jair is one of the best corners in the National Football League. Y'all are forming one of the best secondaries in the league, quiet as it's kept. You know, it's a lot of focus has been on the quarterback and his injury. and, you know, Malik coming in and doing all that. But you've all been playing some really good ball. Talk about your relationship with them.

Man, our relationship is great. I think ever since I got here, like, we started building and we connected, like, me, him and John, like, we connected, like, off the rip. And you can see it, you know, when we're out there playing. And, you know what I'm saying? We have, like, when it's Thursday night football or something like that, we'll have, you know what I'm saying, get together is at each other. houses and we're all just kind of vibe out and chill. But we got a great connection with each other. And the crazy part is I was thinking about it yesterday. It's like everybody hasn't even all been healthy yet. And so like we ain't we ain't really like hit. We ain't even hit where we

supposed to hit yet. We ain't even really scratch the surface yet. And now that we're getting, you know what I'm saying, these rooks that have been playing well once they get going, it's going to be scary, man. And I really think we got we got the best unit, you know what I'm saying room collectively in the league. And I think it's just going to continue to improve and continue to show. But everything's been good, man. We all on the same page. Obviously, we all around the same age.

So we all, you know what I'm saying? We got a lot of things in common and similar things. So it's been fun playing with these dudes, man. They give me that, you know, that energy. And we feed off of each other. Like our energy is kind of, we all just feed off each other. And we push each other to be better in practices and meetings. game.

So it's been fun playing with them for sure. That sounds like a great group. It really does. And half is a great leader. So I know the sky's the limit for y'all. Talk to me about this young group of wideouts y'all have that's really dynamic. Reed, Watson, Romeo Dobbs. You have so much talent on that side of the ball.

But no real, like, true go-to guy. It seems like any given day, any one of them can just go all. Man, man, bro. When I first got here and, you know, we had our practices, like, and even when we started in camp, it was hard for me because, you know what I'm saying? As the middle field safety, a lot of times I'm looking for, all right, who to go to, who to go to guy.

But shit, they all get into the damn ball, and they all fast. They all run good routes. They all can catch the ball, catch radius is crazy. So, like, it's tough, like being able to, you know, like, prepare against them, like, because I know I'm doing it in practice, but, like, in the games, you know, it's different. So I know I'm knowing it's tough for opponents, man. So I think for them, you know, obviously they're young and they're still growing, but they're super talented and they're real close with each other.

And, you know what I'm saying? The sky's the limit for them as well. And I think they just don't continue to, you know what I'm saying? Do it. They got to do their crew. But yeah, it's tough, bro, when all of them, you know what I'm saying, can get the job done. So I know that's making, you know, a lot of pressure for these defenses. How is it seeing so many of your college teammates in the league?

You know, you had Mac, you had Tua, Wado, you had so many of these guys that's playing and playing at a high level in national football league. You got to feel good when you see them to be like, yeah, we knew. Yeah, no, it do feel good for sure. You know what I'm saying? We talk about it when we can, but we don't expect nothing less from each other. Like, we know, you know what I'm saying, the cloth that we come from. And we didn't bend through that grind with each other.

We didn't, we didn't see, you know what I'm saying, the highs and we didn't see the lows. Like, we didn't, we didn't did that, you know what I'm saying, before with each other. So whenever something, you know what I'm saying, happens, whether it's good or it's bad, like, it's like a field thing. We always know, like, all right, he going to rise out of the occasion. Like, he going to do this or he going to do that. So it's good just seeing everybody, you know what I'm saying, be successful in their own ways. And, you know, everybody's still having fun with it and just balling at the same time. Because, bro, we got, I mean, at Lee, we got some of the best.

the best guys, you know what I'm saying, in this league. So that's real good for us. You out there. I've been out there a couple of times. I went out there for Achilles surgery and then obviously to play the Packers. And I think it's like a, what is that, like a red lobster or something like that. It's like a couple good pizza places, but it wasn't a lot of places to go. What's your favorite place to go out there?

I ain't going to lie, bro. It ain't a lot of places. Now, honestly, I won't be going nowhere, but I don't be going out to eat. It's a place that's right next to my house. It's called Play Bistro. So I say, like, that's the best spot I didn't been to. But it ain't like how it was when I was in New York where, you know what I'm saying, I had a list of places that I could just go at any given moment and be like, oh, yeah, this is great food.

So it ain't a lot, but if I had to say a place, it would be to play Bistro. place. Okay. Yeah. All right. Your family out there with you? Nah, my family, they're not out here with me. But they've been at pretty much all the game. So they just try to stay, you know what I'm saying? Stay supportive me. And they always pretty much out here. Where's home for you? Georgia. Yeah, yeah, in Conyers, Georgia. You bought, you got a house out there? In Georgia? Yeah. No, I ain't got no, I ain't got no crib out there. That's where my mom and my dad said, my grandparents. My house is here, and I got a couple other properties.

Okay, talk to me then. Yeah. Yeah. You got, did you have like a condo or something in New York? Yeah, I got the townhouse in New York. So, yeah. That's cool. That's cool.

Now you get to, like, it got to feel good to be able to just, hey, I'm stopping here, but I'm stopping at my house. I'm going to stay there for a couple days, go here. Thanks. Yeah. Yeah. That's big time. That's big time.

Well, shoot, I don't want to take too much of your time. know it's your off day and you got to get some rest. If you got some questions for me or anything you want to talk about, I'm all ears. For sure. For sure. We got to, uh, we can exchange numbers. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm going to for sure had to, you know what I'm saying, pick your brain on some stuff,

bro, because I, man, I used to watch, you know what I'm saying, when y'all secondary, the Seahawks, a little, man, that, that's what I'm trying to, we, we're trying to get our secondary just how that, how y'all was. So, you know what I'm saying? I definitely would like to get some, you know what I'm saying, some pornish from you, of how to, you know what I'm saying, get it to that level. Well, a lot of it is stuff you talked about. Like, our practice habits where our practice habits.

It's holding each other accountable, it's hanging out and spending time with one and another outside of this. You know what I mean? It's not an obligation. But you've got to care about the dudes you're playing with if you really want to get to that level. You got to, you got to show you got to be at their wedding. You got to, you know what I mean?

You got to know their kids. You got to actually know these human beings. and then when you get out there, you don't feel like you're playing with just teammates. You feel like you're playing with your family. So then when somebody make a mistake, because it's not the positive moments you worry about. It's when somebody mess up,

somebody gets hit for a deep ball or give up a touchdown or something. It's always how you approach that and how you talk to each other in moments like that. And it has to be the same way you would talk to your brother in those moments. Not like, man, what the F? What the F you're doing? Like I guess like, hey, hey, I know you better than that. Hey, they didn't mess up.

Now they didn't woke you up. Now we're about to show up. Now they're really about to get it. Like, y'all trying my boy. You know what I mean? It's so much different and it's so encouraging when you're talking that way as opposed to like you're just looking at him like, like, come on, man.

Like, you know? Because you're going to be in so many tough moments with each other. And you need him just as much in those tough moments as you need him in the good moments. And nothing beneficial is coming from like getting pissed off at him and then like going off on him. And we hold ourselves to such a high standpoint. and I'll say Earl Thomas set the standard at practice every day and day. That boy, if you watch his practice tape, you'd be like, I see, I see exactly why he liked that.

I mean, full speed everywhere, walk through. I mean, we in OTAs. That's why we'd always lose draft picks and stuff in OTAs because he plays so they're hard. He was the tempo violator. Always. Ain't no, his tempo is the tempo, and you better get to it or you take him off the field. And so when he's setting a tempo like that, it's on us. He's setting a standard.

We got to match it. And so now we're going just as hard. Now it's like, hey, if you don't want nobody getting hurt and you don't want the tempo to be like that, take us out. Because we're going to be at 10. For sure. It's not really, we don't care who out there, the offense, some seven-year-olds. I don't care who out there. They're about to get full.

Yeah. And so when we talk about walkthroughs, it's perfection. It's picked off. We're not letting a completion happen and we're not just batting it to the ground. We're catching them. Every single time, every single person, every single linebacker, everybody.

So the standards set across the board and we hold each other accountable. We communicate. Hey, spot, spot, alert the end, in, in, in. Ain't nobody embarrassed to open their mouths. Close mouths. Don't get fed. For sure.

And so it's just a lot of that consistency and we had coaches that held us accountable. You know, I have two picks in the game thinking I'm about to go in the meetings and have a cool meeting. And all this boy is showing me is the few plays where I got beat or I gave up a catch. And you're like, look, your technique is sloppy here. And if he would have saw this, he would have got you here.

He's like, well, can we get to the picks? Show me the books. I swear I got to this game now. We won by 40. But it was humbling, you know. It kept me humble. It kept our group humble because he did it to everybody. And it kept the other guys in the room under.

that nobody's above coaching. Yeah. Like he coaching us just as hard as he coaching y'all. No matter how high we get, we ain't that high. For sure. That's real. That's real. I appreciate that for sure.

No, it's all love, brother. It's all love. And I give you my number once we get offline and we can connect and you text me whatever you need. And I got you. That's a bet. That is a bet. I appreciate you again, brother, for having me on the platform for show.

No, I appreciate you, man. I'm a big fan of you and I'm happy to see you having a success you have. I hope you go get 10 more of them and break the record. Yes, sir. I appreciate that. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Have a good day.

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