The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Saturday Special- Colin speaks with Petros Papadakis, College Football Analyst for FOX Sports and Co-Host of Petros and Money on AM 570

Episode Date: May 30, 2020

Colin talks with Petros Papadakis, College Football Analyst for FOX Sports and Co-Host of Petros and Money on AM 570 in Los Angeles. They discuss if the Pac-12 is in trouble because of Covid-19 and how the conference needs USC to help it bounce back, what is going wrong at USC and how not being political on a sports show somehow still divides people Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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he's part of an incredibly popular afternoon show, Petros and Money with Matt Money on AM 570, LA Sports. He's a former USC football player. He was a team captain. Kind of a sage for his age. He's done an analyst work for multiple networks. I brought him on the herd before. Petros Papadakis is joining us, and he's always thoughtful. And, you know, I think you're a perfect guest for our Saturday podcast, because we can ramble here a little bit.

Let's start with this. So let's start with this. And we're both ramblers. California is a different state to live in. We're more liberal. We've got more restrictions, but we have this incredible quality of life. And I think the expense and the regulations may scare some people off and the liberal politics, but I think it's the best place I've ever lived in my life.

With that said, we're, and I think you probably agree, it's just an amazing place, the food, the people, the opportunities, the beaches, the mountains. But were you frustrated during this virus as other parts of the people, the country were opening up and California was not. I think we've all been scared that California's opening up too early, you know, really because usually even if I'm wrong, I have a lasso over what's going on. Yeah. You know, I might be wrong.

I might be naive. I might be usually I feel comfortable if I feel like I have a lasso. I love and trust been going into the studio for this whole time. because I don't like it when the shows go from home. They don't sound that good. Same here, yeah. Yeah. And then I have people that think I'm crazy for me because, you know,

I've lived in this Weisland, Dallas Birdies and San Pedro, which is kind of like the harbor where the ghetto meets the sea. It is the oldest settled community on the West Coast from Los Angeles. Right. You know, they're not a celebrity. The guy works at a truck. And it's just that he's from Los Angeles. You know, people think of this as a mythical kind of golden place.

Frustrating, you know, for everybody. Yeah, you know, Petros, as somebody that I broadcast, you know, as you know, it lands in all 50 states in some point. The globe. Yeah. And so I've always kind of taken a cautious approach on things I don't really know. I don't do a lot of politics because I'm not as well. well-versed in it. People, you know, I see people offering stock tips online. It's like, no, that's not what I do. Right. I'll do football picks. I'm good. And with the virus, I said one thing

very early. Well, two things. I said, this is not going to be a four-week thing. It's going to be a four-month, six-month thing. That was the first thing I said the first day. The second thing I said is I think social distancing matters. I have moved to a third thing in terms of we don't really know what this is, which is, I think being outdoors, you're not going to get it mostly, and just get out in the sun, exercise, move. I'm pretty sure Manhattan Beach, most of the beach communities, people are all over the place, but they're outdoors jogging quickly past each other. Do you, so those are the three things now I've said, I absolutely believe, go outdoors. If you can't wear a mask, just give people space. Because I'm seeing all these beach

communities, we don't see a huge number of cases. I think we went a month at one point. Manhattan Beach didn't have a case or had one. So do you have anything you absolutely believe to be true with this and not true with all the information out on COVID? The contradiction. And I do think that this whole thing has been a very crude instrument. And he said, you know, I'm not the guy that's going to sit here and help people with medical information. Like when this whole thing started, the one thing I understood that I needed to do was to entertain people and try to be lighthearted and get to work. You know, I didn't want to be the guy that was predicting

that when things were going to come back or telling people how horrible everything is. I just wanted to help people get through it. Over here by Redondo, public service announcement to tell people to stay off the beach and this and that. And I was like, you know, not really. I don't want to because I think it's ridiculous. I drive by the beach, and they had it all roped off for months, and it was depressing to me.

Yeah. And I sidewalks and then an esplanade way down by the water, and they had the sidewalk and the esplanade roped off. Well, what do you think is going to happen? The one side of the street is packed with people like a New York thoroughfare. And that's not social distancing, right? You know, I mean, they closed a bunch of walking trails here where I live, you know, for walking. and what happens? Well, now there's big herds of people walking down the middle of the street. You know, people fighting with cars and joggers and bikers getting in, you know, wearing a mask and who's not.

That's the kind of little stuff. You know, New York says it's okay to be on the wet sand or the dry sand but not the dry sand. California says you could be on the wet sand but not the dry sand. You know, that's the stuff, that minutiae like you said that drives people crazy. And I know enough doctors that said, hey, look, you know, I worked on Ebola, and the thing dies in the sun. You know, that's kind of common with this kind of stuff. So as to the water is California. You know, even people that live hours from the water know how to get to the water. And when you cut that off, I think you really, you're really cutting people go in the water much, but I like to look at it. Yeah.

And it was hard to go look at it, you know, to see all these cones and all these restraints. and all these restrictions and all these signs that no one was really sure if they're being effective or not. That frustrated me, and I did talk a little bit on the air about that. Petros from the beach. Yeah, no, I think you should.

I think you have insight. Petros Papadacas, former USC football player, I was thinking the other day, I have not also predicted when leagues would start, but I made a prediction about two months ago. I said, here's my only sports prediction. The SEC is going to have a season. They're more football than academics.

That's nothing against all the fine universities. But it does matter more there. The PAC 12 says, okay, June 15th, that took them a while, we're all in. Do you believe they're all in, or it's more a toes in the water because they feel some pressure that with recruiting, if they're literally anti-football, that it's just, this is a key time to recruit, and it could be, it could be puncturing any recruiting momentum, especially with like a USC or an Oregon that recruit nationally in Stanford? Or do you believe they're really all in? If kids get cases, the Pact 12 is fine, because my history of this conference is it's more academic leaning than the

SEC or the Big 12 or the ACC. You described when we started while I've been doing this, you know, about 10 years in. And I love the Pact 12. I wish it was thriving more. Unfortunately, terrible decisions years ago, as you know. And they networked and all that. One of the worst decisions, it's not worth anything. They needed to strike that no one else, he tried to start his own media company. The fact that USC hasn't really competed at a very high national level for a decade. As you know, and radio guy up in Oregon, and he said, when we asked the same question about

the league's coming back, he said, well, the PAC 12 is going to wait and see what everybody else does, and then they'll do something. I mean, Larry Scott's just going to listen to about 400 committees that they hire and overpay and just do what everybody else says. So, you know, you start on June 1st. We start on June 7th. Oh, well, we're going to start on June 15th. You know, okay, whatever, guys.

They are their followers, and they will follow suit with what the SEC and the Big 10 and the Big 12 do. Petros Papadakis will take a quick break back after this. Last night, a blown call changed the game. This morning, the internet lost its mind. Highlights are trending, opinions are flying, and nobody's telling you exactly what happened. That's where Sports Slice comes in. I'm Timbo. Every episode, we're cutting through the noise, breaking down the plays, the controversies,

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for black people in American history. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up, guys? This is Clever Taylor the Fourth. And on my podcast, The Cliverts Show, I'm bringing you conversations about all kinds of stuff. Like being in a...

internet famous referee. We're in the middle of a game. This linebacker walks up to me, he goes, hey, ref, my mom wants you to wave at her. What? Time out. Quarterback on office blue with 42. Hey, ref, my mama want you to wave at her.

What? Hey, Ms. Parker. Listen to the Clifford show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Petro's Papadakis. and money in L.A. You know him on 570 L.A. Sports, Petros and Money, former USC football player, Fox Sports College Football Analyst, and a sage, all full of wisdom. Let's talk about what you think college football, fans-wise, will look like in the fall.

Your gut feeling. Last night, that Iowa was one of the places where, I mean, because you Right. You know, and the apple that you pull out with your mouth, you know, you don't want it to be a rotten apple filled with all this crap. You know, you want it to be something that you can talk about and make entertaining and make it. And I said that like two months ago. Yep. And sudden campus for labs. And then they said, well, you know, if they can be on campus for labs, and of course we can have guys working out.

And that whole thing buckled. But nobody really reported on the buckle on the original shock of Bigot Holder. or people that, I mean, the people that go to college football games, it's a tribal lifestyle thing for them. Those six or seven games, as you know, they base their whole year around them that they go to. And I'm not comfortable sitting there telling those people that they're not going to be able to do what they want in the fall, because I have no idea.

You know, I don't know what it's going to look like. But I'm assuming by August things will be dramatically different. and we will have a different perspective on how to go about this. And then some, you know, with some fans going. You know, I'm a huge college football fan. I talk less college football now than the NFL substantially, and I did not 10 years ago. That is because it's become very regionalized,

which is not good for my syndicated business. So I used to talk USC all the time because I knew I'd have a West Coast audience, and then I have a southern audience, and Big Ten fans are obviously. rabid. The sport has become to me too regionalized, and I think there's only one way to solve that. And the only way to solve that is USC. It is the only West Coast program, Denver West, that has the resources, the history, the money and the tradition, and the recruiting base to get seven five-star players in a single class. Now, USC finally got rid of older defensive coaches who frankly

could not recruit and would not recruit. They've got now Todd Orlando, Texas guy, high energy, risk taker, blitzer, good salesman. Does that save Clay Hilton's job? A younger, more aggressive staff, or are we just biting time with the current program? With Colin, like when I started doing this, I did mostly only West Coast games. Now, you know, 90% of the games I call are outside of California and 80% are outside of the PAC 12 conference. And the perception for USC amongst the coaches, because they roll their eyes, I could teach those guys' technique and develop those players and so on and so forth. You know, nothing that you haven't heard of football circles.

That doesn't make you very popular amongst your peers. Remember, Todd Orlando was fired at Texas. Right. And he took a linebacker job for his old friend Matt Wells, who's a very good coach from Utah State, who's now at Texas Tech. And he got saved by Clay. and they have Graham Harrell there and they run a... With a blitzing offense, not necessarily a great... You've taken a lot of chances on both sides of the ball.

You know, it's really nationally for the West Coast to be relevant nationally. You understand that. And the fact that you get that around at Washington, which is one of my favorite programs of the world, because Washington's a great program, but they're tucked up in Seattle, and they don't move the needle nationally. And there's only about six legitimate big-time players, in the state year after year.

I mean, if you go look at the history of college football, there's a very clear trend. If your state doesn't produce 20 elite Division I players, you can't be year after year in elite power. It's almost – Oregon has become a fringe elite power, basically because of Phil Knight and the marketing. Right, and they come down here and recruit both of those schools. It's a problem, and it's not solvable. It's by the time they come around to making a new deal. but the one quick thing, everything would change.

You hire them and develop that coach or at an ECU and hire him. You know, Clay Helton, since I was a child, because Kim Helton was the offensive line coach for the Raiders when they were in L.A. and they were in El Segundo, and Tyson Helton, who's the head coach at Western Kentucky, was our freshman team quarterback when I played football. I know the Helton's. The Haltons are people in coaching that are protectors.

They don't want anybody around the head coach, if it's one of them, that has any kind of threat. You know, like a hot coordinator, like Lincoln Riley, to Bob Stoops. A whole situation for a helton. And that's kept USC pretty weak just as far as staffing, other than the fact that he didn't really know anybody. But now they have a new athletic director who's building a lot of new roads. We'll see what the season looks like. But I don't think it's beyond the realm. I mean, and recruiting, USC's been recruiting at the highest level, top five recruiting classes for years.

The letters recruit themselves. Like, I played for Paul Hackett and was able to get Carson Palmer to sign with us. The letters recruit themselves. It's not that. Last year was so negative that USC had a terrible recruiting class. Every other year, they're right up there with the teams they're supposed to recruit with. The unfortunate part is those players are not being defeated. The last three years, UCLA or four years, have probably been the worst ever of UCLA football in the lifetime of the program, right?

Right, yeah, no question. They have out drafted USC in the last three years, 22 to 21. They've had more guys drafted. I mean, it's a joke. USC, you know, that USC is not reason why. But I think people are tired of Rage of negativity for 10 years, and a lot of people just don't want to hear me spew the bile anymore, which I understand. Well, I think at some point, Lynn Swan extended his contract, and now they don't have the money to buy him out? Is that perhaps?

All they have money. These colleges are these, like, you go to these places, and they're these giant utopias. They're always building. They're never out of money. And then they're the first people to cry, we don't have any money. It's amazing that Mike Bone didn't the president balked and would not let Mike Bone and let him staff, basically, give him full control. And, you know, you couldn't get Bruce Rawlinson, the coach at modern day in Orange County, to come to USC unless he gave him full control. You know, USC just

doesn't get that. So for me, it's control. You know, they lost control. Pete Carroll took control from Mike Garrett. He became a bigger star in town than the athletic director when college football flourished when USC was great, the governor would say, that we always talk about. You know, the linered in Bush days and beyond. Broke a bunch of rules. They had the Reggie controversy, and they had crippling sanctions. Ever since then, they've wanted a coach that they can control, whether it's Kiffin, whether it's Sark, and then the ultimate, and it just seems like that they need USC to be successful. Having a guy like Bob Stoops come in and kick a bunch of a boosters off the plane and

say, no, this is how we do it from now on. It has been for a decade, and that's a big part of the reason why, and that really kills me. Because USC football being bad hurts the eyeballs from the East Coast. The East Coast really only recognizes USC. I don't know if it's an OJ thing or a Lynn Swan thing or Ricky Bell or what it is. But nobody moves the needle on the, you know, people aren't going to watch Cal unless Cal's playing a really good U.S. Last night, a blown call changed a game.

This morning, the internet lost its mind. Highlights are trending, opinions are flying, and nobody's telling you exactly. what happened. That's where SportsSlice comes in. I'm Timbo. Every episode, we're cutting through the noise, breaking down the plays, the controversies, and the stories behind the headlines. We go straight to the source, the athlete themselves, their locker room stories, their reactions, the stuff nobody gets to hear. The laughs, the drama, the triumphs, the moments that never make the highlight real. From viral moments to historic games, from buzzer beaters to controversial calls, we break it down, give you context, and ask the questions everybody wants answered. Sports

Slice brings you closer to the action with stories told by the people who live them. Listen to Sports Slice on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Slic Life 12 and the TikTok podcast network on TikTok. Welcome to my new podcast, Learn the Hardway with me, your host, and your favorite therapist, Kear Games. And in recognition of mental health awareness month, I'm bringing over a decade of my own experience in the mental health field and conversations with so many incredible guests. I'm talking. Trip Fontaine, Ryan Clark. Sometimes when we're in the pursuit of the thing, we get so wrapped up in the chase that we don't realize that we are in possession of the thing.

And we're still chasing it. And we don't know when we've done enough. Because people scoreboard watch. Life becomes about wins and losses. Steve Burns, Dustin Ross, because you find it important to be a good person while you hear on earth. Are you a good person because you're afraid? Because that's two different intentions, bro. Absolutely.

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Do you remember when Diana Ross double-tap Little Kim's boobs at the VMAs? Or when Kanye said that George Bush didn't like black people. I know what you're thinking. What the hell does George Bush got to do with Little Kim? Well, you can find out on the Look Back at it podcast. I'm Sam J.

And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick it here, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. Including a recent episode with Mark Lamont Hill, waxing all about crack in the 80s. To be clear, 84 is big to me, not just because of crack. I'm down to talk about crack all day, but just so you all know. I mean, at this point, Mark, this is the second episode where we've discussed crack. So I'm starting to see that there's a through line. We also have AIDS on the table right now.

Thank you for finishing that sentence. I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Really? Yeah. For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up, guys? This is Clivert Taylor the Fourth.

And on my podcast, The Cliverts Show, I'm bringing you conversations about all kinds of stuff. Like being an internet famous referee. We're in the middle of a game. This linebacker walks up to me, he goes, Hey, ref, my mom wants you to wave at her. What? Quarterback on office blue 42. Hey, ref, my mama wants you to wave at her.

What? Where's she at? Hey, Miss Parker. Listen to the Clippers show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Petro's Papa Day. One final question, you're also an observer of the media. And I am interested in it. Try to stay out of the gossip, but I'm interested in it.

And one of the things I've noticed, you know, we have a president that sort of weaponizes social media. And it's made a country that was partisan, even more divided and at times unhinged. Now we have a candidate, Joe Biden, also older, with it appears to be. be some cognitive decline. I'm being nice. I don't remember in my life having a presidential election where I don't feel comfortable with either candidate. But I also equally don't feel comfortable with the current state of American media. Right. It is so partisan, so unhinged, so over the top that I mostly stay out of politics because I'm, I think the audience is seeking people who aren't partisan.

What's your take on your show and your belief, what we have going forward? And sort of the media's role in the divide in the country. A fool, you know, and then people text me and say, you conservative animal. Yeah, I get that too, yeah. So no one really knows, and that's how I like to keep it. But overall, like, you know, it's so difficult. I go on Clay Travis' show once a week. I have ever since he started his radio show.

I am the other day, Colin, of Matt and I on a tandem bike with our faces photoshopped on like the three's company tandem bike, right? Yeah. And people tweeted under the tweet, I'm done with this show. No mask. Irresponsible. It's a two-dimensional kinds of reactions just really turned me. off. And I turn on the computer. I am just so disheartened and so some days I just feel drowned in information that is to agree with the media part because I've never felt before in our

lifetime since I've been doing this that we've constantly been being gaslighted by the media. And it's like every media outlet is much more like a fan site than it is an actual media outlet. Oh, yeah. Yeah, no, I gave Vox a chance. And about a month in, I'm like, okay, they're partisan. I'm always looking. It's one of the reasons I think Joe Rogan has succeeded. He's a little bit of a heterodox. He doesn't care. He's just looking to, he's trying to find people that are interesting and that have the right answers to stuff, and he doesn't care either way, and he gets tons of hate mail. Now, I didn't love him interviewing Alex Jones because I lived in Connecticut during that awful tragedy. But I think part of Joe Rogan's appeal, I was reading at the New York Times this week, is that

he just wants the right answer. He doesn't come in with the answer. Yeah, and they're wildly successful and found a way to connect with a lot of people through. Or if people see you as somebody, you know, people say, hey, did you hear this? Did you hear that on that show? What really bothers me just about culture and thumb that I've heard from a few people over these last few years when our political environment has just become so, so charged and toxic, is just don't apologize. You know, if you felt like you didn't do anything wrong and there's a bunch of outraged people,

the second you apologize to them, you know, you've become their bitch, and now they get ground on you and you have to sit there with your eyes darting around for the rest of your life, worried about what you might or might say that could offend somebody. The best thing to do is just trust your instincts and go forward. And, you know, we all say and do stupid things just and they want us to bring them through the day. Advice, you know, just try to find some honesty in your heart when you're going to do this stuff because looking at the information gets so confusing. I mean, could you imagine actually being in the news right now, Colin? And what you would decide to go with every day?

Oh, I saw something yesterday where an ABC News reporter on Twitter said he named, like 11 states that they've opened them up and there doesn't appear to be a surge in viruses. And it was met with utter disdain from the audience when he was just reporting data. They were not all states with conservative governors. And I thought, he's just a reporter giving you data. It would be like me saying, Aaron Rogers is talented and getting deluged with hate mail. It is funny when you look at it because if you have a Twitter feed like you do or I do, and you tweet something out and you start seeing, you know, son with you, this or that.

If you look at that Twitter page, it's usually just some wildly partisan Twitter page. You know, they're these wildly political. Like most people's Twitter is not super political. Most people, I think, are like you and I. They want to coexist. They want to be together. They want everything to be okay. They don't want to be divided.

They really don't. You look at their Twitter pages if they have one in there, you know, picture their kids, a song they like, you know, maybe something political here and there. But the people that are outraged are 100% political. They're saturated in it, and they live it all day. And if you want to live it with them, all you've got to do is log in and get emotionally swooned by it. And it's horrible in different times. I might have a couple of whiskies, and then you look at Twitter and you feel devastated half the time. So it is something, you know, that everybody has to, I think, temper.

The train has left the station, and it's, I don't know how it's going to be under control any time soon. Because it's just such a, I mean, it's such a great medium, but it's also horrible, too. At the same time. Yeah. When Tim Russert died, I kind of felt like the center of the political spectrum died with him. He was one of those guys where I always felt he's giving it to me. straight, and I think increasingly it's hard to find that voice. Maybe it is Joe Rogan. I got, you know, working at my father's restaurant, Colin, because my dad, for people that don't know,

he had a very famous Greek restaurant for 40 years. We only owned one restaurant. I'm through that right now. I think so many are. But every local, every local politician, they're at their most vulnerable, you know, when I was 10 years old, I don't respect local politicians. You know, and all of a sudden I'm supposed to act like these people are heroes, I can't do it. You know, as a young guy, you know, as a bus boy, it's awful tough to take Eric. Yeah. What a pleasure it's been. Petros Papadoccus, Dacus, excuse me.

Colin, let me explain this to you. There is no wrong way to say the name. All right. Because the way to pronounce it makes it sound like you're trying too hard. Like if you're, you know, hey, Colin, we're getting down to glattabala. You know, you're not going to say that. it would be but no one says that you know i don't say that because i say papadocas i say both of them so please well i love bringing you on my saturday podcast because the country listens and uh i really

wanted to dig deeper into l.A and your kind of sensibility on all this you're uh wildly talented um you have for your age you have um and i don't know how old you are i fear 40 40ish years old yeah you got a lot of wisdom you're a very smart guy and um you're you're you're very smart guy and um I'm glad I could share you for people who hadn't heard you in the country on this platform, buddy, and it's great talking to you. I listen all the time. Thank you, man. Calls like when your booker calls, it's like Santa Claus on the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy.

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