The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Sharp or Square - NFL Week 12 Bets: Bills-Texans, Giants-Lions, Bucs-Rams, Colts-Chiefs, Eagles-Cowboys, Jets-Ravens and more

Episode Date: November 19, 2025

NFL betting expert Chad Millman is joined by professional sports gambler Simon Hunter to discuss the latest NFL spreads. Together the duo provide initial betting picks and predictions for NFL Week 12 ...starting with Thursday Night Football as Josh Allen and the resurgent Buffalo Bills traveling to the Lone Star State to take on the Houston Texans, with either Davis Mills or C.J. Stroud under center amid ongoing injury issues at quarterback. Producer Matt Mitchell will be on the edge of his sad little seat for that game, surely. Together Simon and Chad go through Sam Darnold and the Seattle Seahawks facing Cam Ward and the Tennessee Titans, Baker Mayfield leading the Tampa Bay Buccaneers to Los Angeles to face Matt Stafford and the Rams, and Daniel Jones facing his biggest test of the season as the Indianapolis Colts go to Kansas City to play Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs. We also hear about the rebounding New York Giants with Jameis Winston against a suddenly struggling Detroit Lions team, as well as Aaron Rodgers taking his Pittsburgh Steelers to the Windy City to play Caleb Williams and the Chicago Bears. Are the Carolina Panthers ready to upset the San Francisco 49ers with the now-healthy Brock Purdy on Monday Night? And will Dak Prescott and the Dallas Cowboys continue their playoff run against Jalen Hurts and the surging Philadelphia Eagles? Find out on this week's episode! #Volume 0:03:00 - START 0:05:18 - BUFFALO BILLS VS HOUSTON TEXANS 0:09:40 - SEATTLE SEAHAWKS VS. TENNESSEE TITANS 0:13:35 - PITTSBURGH STEELERS VS. CHICAGO BEARS 0:18:55 - NEW YORK GIANTS VS. DETROIT LIONS 0:25:35 - NEW YORK JETS VS. BALTIMORE RAVENS 0:33:40 - NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS VS. CINCINNATI BENGALS 0:38:10 - INDIANAPOLIS COLTS VS. KANSAS CITY CHIEFS 0:43:05 - MINNESOTA VIKINGS VS. GREEN BAY PACKERS 0:45:24 - CLEVELAND BROWNS VS. LAS VEGAS RAIDERS 0:49:41 - JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS VS. ARIZONA CARDINALS 0:53:31 - ATLANTA FALCONS VS. NEW ORLEANS SAINTS 0:55:50 - PHILADELPHIA EAGLES VS. DALLAS COWBOYS 1:03:50 - TAMPA BAY BUCS VS. LA RAMS 1:06:50 - CAROLINA PANTHERS VS. SAN FRANCISCO  All lines provided by Hard Rock Bet  Subscribe to Sharp or Square for gambling advice, best bets, and predictions from sports betting experts Chad Millman and Simon Hunter. Follow on all platforms: https://www.instagram.com/sharporsquare/ https://x.com/SharporSquare_See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:47 or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to Sharper Square, presented by Hard Rock Bat. We are part of the Volume Podcast Network. This is the show. That makes the squares sharper and makes the wise guys pay attention. I am Chad Milman. I am joined as always by my co-host, my BFF, my companion, my compadre, professional better. Simon Hunter.
Starting point is 00:03:16 Hello, Simon. Chad, how we doing, brother? Brother, I got to be a little muted today because I'm sitting in a hotel room. I'll be in a hotel room for our next two shows. If you could see, this is the beauty of podcasting. the modern age. My computer is balanced on the top of a turned over ice container, and there is a light that is half hanging on to the edge of my computer. So if we get through this whole show, and I'm on hotel Wi-Fi, if we get through this whole show and nothing collapses, that will be the
Starting point is 00:03:54 miracle. No, I got a good faith. We've had a good run with Hotel Wi-Fi. We're also having a good run lately. We went three and two. Last week in our five favorite picks, we won with the Browns, we won with the Panthers, we won with the Eagles on Sunday night, great call by you. We lost with the Bengals and we lost with the Rams for the year. Take a look at the graphic. Everyone can see. This is where they get the official updates on our progress, 31, 24 through 11 weeks of the season. Sometimes I wish I was only betting these five games and I didn't bet anything else because I feel like it's the other games that are completely screwing me up, Simon. This is our Tuesday show. We'll get through the entire slate. If you want to see what the final five are, you've got to check
Starting point is 00:04:45 out the show Sunday a.m. on Sharper Square YouTube page. Don't forget, subscribe to Apple Pods, Spotify, wherever you get your pods. All right, Thursday night football. Interesting game. Buffalo at Houston. Houston is a six-point underdog at Hard Rock, five and a halfs in a lot of other places. Look, I mean, who's playing QB? And I don't mean for the Texans. I mean, is it Josh Allen who can be inconsistent and looks like he's pressing and is missing receivers? Or is it Josh Allen, the superhuman, who had six touchdowns? against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers on Sunday in a game that I think everyone is still getting over the hangover
Starting point is 00:05:33 because it was so freaking wild. From the opening drive, the bills were unstoppable. It's definitely a game where, right when you saw the number, especially there's five and a halfs out there, it's like, how do you not want to just take the bills after the game they've just had? And what you just said, what we've seen from Davis-Mills and we expect to trips Texas team.
Starting point is 00:05:52 So I don't know. I kind of want to take the Texans now that we're at six, but I don't think CJ is going to play. I don't know if he is either. Concussions, it's like everyone's affected differently for them. So it's really tough to even try to predict it. And it's a type of thing where we don't know. It's all in-house.
Starting point is 00:06:11 My biggest issue would definitely be Houston as a home team. I don't know. It's not like they have that huge home field advantage. And even their prime time numbers are franchise, just aren't good. It's pretty alarming. They're 18 and 31 straight up, 15 and 32 against the spread in night games. So it just doesn't matter who the quarterback is. Historically, it's not a good spot for them. So it makes sense the early money is coming in from the professionals and the public all lined up on this bills team with so much unknown on those Texan's team. So I guess I'll go
Starting point is 00:06:47 bills minus five and a half for now if you can find it. But like we said, it's already minus six a hard rock. I could still, I guess, take the bills. But, I know it's super publicly and it's going to be all public money, but we've seen these Thursday games. It's just doesn't really matter if it's a bad matchup and it's a guy like Davis Mills playing. It's a shootout. I just don't think you can keep up.
Starting point is 00:07:07 So these short week games are just tough. And we expect Josh Allen to have a letdown game after putting up six touchdowns, but maybe he's on a roll. So I'm not going to try to get in front of that. I don't know about you. John, no, no. Josh Allen with the epic, I guess,
Starting point is 00:07:22 backdoor, the rare, Backdoor favorite cover being down one with five minutes left and winning that game by 12 is what closed at a six and a half point favorite. Davis Mills, look, it's a short week. CJ's still on the protocol. He, we don't know what's going to be happening. He hasn't been cleared yet. They got the bills, Colts, and Chiefs on the docket. The Texans are 500.
Starting point is 00:07:51 You wonder, all right, do the. they sit him one more game, make sure that he's healthy for the division game, where that might be in the standings for the playoffs, potentially more important down the road. Davis Mills, I thought this was interesting. Again, I'm not advocating for betting the Texans in any way. Davis Mills had another last fourth quarter come from behind win on Sunday. That was his second in a row. The last time Davis Mills started a game before this season was the last game of 2023 when he led a come from behind win for the Texans when they were in position to have the number one overall pick.
Starting point is 00:08:36 But that win knocked them out of the number one overall pick. The Texans might very well have Bryce Young right now instead of C.J. Stroud if Davis Mills does not win that game for a Lovie Smith who immediately got fired and forgetting his team to win at the end of that 2023 season. My point in saying all that is, who knows, maybe Davis Mills is just really good in the fourth quarter at the only time that matters and the rest of the game he's just tortured to watch. Possible?
Starting point is 00:09:10 Yeah, but that's impossible, consistent to know. It is. The bills also gave up 200 yards to the tempid buccaneers rushing on, on Sunday. So we know that their defense has not gotten better. It's going to be, can Josh Allen do something against this Texan defense? That's really going to be the game.
Starting point is 00:09:30 Seattle minus 13 versus Tennessee. They're visiting the Tennessee Titans. We talked about this one on Sunday night. You pegged it immediately. I know I bet Seattle on Sunday at 12 and a half. I'm assuming you did as well. Totally a big number. But the defense is as good as, let's say,
Starting point is 00:09:49 Houston's that just played the Titans and held them to 13 points and it took a miracle to get there. And its offense is so much better than Houston's or the Chargers for that matter, both of which were in position to cover big numbers late in the game. So I feel like the universe should write itself with this one. Yeah. And I said this is a spot I would never usually take. I just blindly would take home dog, especially this big. And a lot of the numbers do back it up. playing dogs this big at home, just so people know why. This is a rare spot for me to see the Olympics. So since 2020, favorites of 11 points or more,
Starting point is 00:10:31 three and seven against the spread, which is pretty bad. They're actually five and five straight up in those games. So it's a weird thing where these teams that are big favorites, juggernauts, lose these games. But I don't think it's here. I think we just saw Tennessee's best shot that we go four in a divisional game. I agree. Now they're facing an absolute juggernaut.
Starting point is 00:10:52 So I just said those trends just to give up. People couldn't believe when I was saying I like the Seahawks. And I said I usually blindly would bet Tennessee in the spot. But this laying the season with a number this big, like I said, the books were going to be begging for Tennessee money. And they opened it too short. And I think it's still too short. Like, why is it not above 14 years? So Tennessee, we've seen it this year.
Starting point is 00:11:15 We've been burned by it. These fluky random points they get, like Chad said, those late. touchdowns or field goals by Ward. They've been a covering machine, but here it feels like it's a great spot for Seattle. They are eight and two against the spread this season, Seattle. So like they've been covering pretty well with these big numbers, and it's really, if you go and look,
Starting point is 00:11:35 it's them being up on bad teams. They do really well against bad teams. So I think it's just their defense is so well coached. They really don't give an inch. And then offensively, we just saw Sam Darnal have his worst game of the year. It just feels like the exact spot he needs to get right. So with Jeffrey Simmons back, I don't really think Seattle, Seattle, Seattle, have much of a run game option, but passing wise, it should torch the secondary.
Starting point is 00:11:56 So, yeah, still like this number as long as you're getting under 14. Look, the run game hasn't been that great anyways. That's been sort of the issue for Seattle. So I think this is a really good opportunity for Darnel to get right. And I think we did get a little bit of a lower number on Sunday and even today because of the stink of what Darnel did and people thinking, oh, Sam Darnel. He's back.
Starting point is 00:12:18 he's seeing ghosts again, I don't think that's the case. We've seen him have bad games. He had a bad game in the playoffs last year against the Rams and then came back and has been an MVP candidate for most of the year. So this is when you reassert yourself as an MVP candidate is against a very bad Tennessee Titans team. And I broke my rule last week. I just said I will blindly bet Seattle as a road team.
Starting point is 00:12:43 They're just, they've just been so good to me. And, you know, under their head coach, they're not. and three against the spread in this season. They're five and one. So they're just covering machines of the road. They just get up under McDonald's. So we got to bet it. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:12:57 I'm trying to have to look at the number scare me off. It's an insane number, but I think Seattle's worthy of it. They're just a really talented team. You know what's weird? We talked about it on Sunday. I didn't hesitate. Didn't feel like it felt like a big number
Starting point is 00:13:12 that Seattle should win this game 34 to 3. Lock it in. Clip that for. Monday. That'd be nice. Pittsburgh at Chicago. Chicago was a three-point favorite. This opened a two and a half after the Mason Rudolph, Aaron Rogers, after Aaron Rogers was injured in the game and it became clear, or at least people thought Mason Rudolph would be starting this next week. Aaron Rogers has a fractured left wrist, surgery not required. It's still not determined if he will be playing this Sunday, but this is a Mason-Rudolph line. Today, Simon, according to Owen Milman, via Larry Mayer on Twitter,
Starting point is 00:14:01 this was texted to me right before we started recording by Owen. Today is Caleb Williams' 24th birthday. He was born November 18, 2001. According to Larry Mayer and Owen Milman, he is the the only player currently on the Bears roster, who was born on a day that the Bears played a game. They beat the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, 2724, behind three touchdowns from Jim Miller. Not so Bears legend who turned into a Bears broadcasting legend. He threw three touchdowns to Marty Booker, Bears won 2724. Tampa Bay needs to beat first place Chicago. Jim Miller to Marty Booker, nailed by John Lynch, which Booker holds on.
Starting point is 00:14:45 Touchdown. Fuck him get out. Happy birthday to our favorite quarterback, Caleb Williams. Will you be betting again on Caleb Williams this weekend, Simon? I hate this game so much because it's like I have to go against the Bears. I feel like I'm blind to it. Yeah. It's too much.
Starting point is 00:15:07 It's too much. It's not a Tomlin spot like we make it out to be. Evan had some really great stats on this game. The biggest one I took away from this one was just as a road underdog what Tomlin's been doing lately. He's actually lost four straight, straight up and against the spread. And that's the first time it's happened for Pittsburgh since 2011. So it's kind of interesting. He's actually struggled in this spot on the road as a dog as of late.
Starting point is 00:15:36 But it's like, all right, well, what kind of bear stats will I have to go against here? Because I just can't, we've talked about the bears have had a horseshoe up their ass now for five, six weeks. Like it's just been incredible the games they've pulled out in one where they're just, they're not playing their best, but they're just so well coached and they just find a way. They just keep believing in themselves. And this is a unique spot. Bears who won three straight games, why five points or less. In the last 20 years, teams in this exact spot, they went 12 and 23 against the spread in that six game.
Starting point is 00:16:06 So historically, it usually catches up to them. More so, the fact that they're a favorite now, is it because of Mason Rudolph? Like we've bet we've bet Pittsburgh with Mason Rudolph the colleges we've we bet this before in the spot chat So like the fact that the public hates Pittsburgh the public's over the bears as well finally what feels like every week the public's kind of gone against the bear's year It feels like it's the right spot to take the Steelers, but it's it's pain in me I just I don't want to go about this. There's nothing magical about this bears team. They're just so well coached and I think they'll be out of run the ball against the Steelers team But we've seen it Tomlund flies away and I just think this is just playing the number it's it's too it's too big a plus three yeah I agree as much as it pains me to
Starting point is 00:16:48 bet against the bears in this spot all of it just feels it we saw that we've seen this before right we've seen this with the Vikings a couple years ago we saw this with the Giants and Brian Dayball's first year we saw it with the Chiefs last year there are teams that get on a roll and they go eight nine ten games where they win by one score and you keep expecting it every week. Like how do you how do you figure out when the regression is going to come?
Starting point is 00:17:23 That's what makes it so difficult because at some point you either got to get off the train and try to time that perfectly. It's like timing the market. How do you time the freaking market? You know? Everybody is selling right now. They're graded as one of the worst teams
Starting point is 00:17:39 in NFL history in the last like 25 years to be seven and three. like all the underlining numbers and data. Totally. That's why I love football. It's like it don't matter. You got to line up and play of the game. They keep finding away.
Starting point is 00:17:50 So I get what people are saying, but at the end of the day, it doesn't matter. Meaning it doesn't matter. We're taking the Steelers. Still taking the Steelers, but I'm just saying as a Bears fan, I wouldn't care. It's like we know our team's not that good. We're seven and three.
Starting point is 00:18:05 Who cares? Yeah. Oh, totally. But I did. I will tell you this. I will tell you this as a Bears fan. You know, I watch all the videos, Ben Johnson.
Starting point is 00:18:13 in the locker room. He's amazing, you know, good, better best, never let it rest, all those kinds of things. I also thought to myself, oh, my God, there's still seven games left in the year. The way the Bears have played and the way they've won these games, I could easily see them losing their next seven games. Yeah, the magic number is three to me.
Starting point is 00:18:38 If you can get three wins, you guys have a brutal schedule on this season. If you can get the four- That's what I mean. you can get the 10 wins. That's why like it's tough for me here where I know you how desperate there they need to win this one, but that doesn't matter in football.
Starting point is 00:18:50 Like it doesn't matter if you need to win this game. It's really about the number. And yeah, I just think plus three in the Steelers is right. All right, Simon, talking about numbers. New York Giants visiting the Detroit Lions. This number has moved from 11.5 to 10 and a half since the Lions got just beat up, hammered, bamboozled, by the Philadelphia Eagles on Sunday night.
Starting point is 00:19:17 And look, the Giants, we talked about it last week with James. We had to bet on James just for a little taste because of the roller coaster that is the full James experience, and we got it with James last week where he had that team in contention to win the game, leading for much of it. Then they're down seven points with 44 seconds left. They're on the Packers 18-yard line.
Starting point is 00:19:42 James goes back to pass, throws it to the end zone. Jalen Hyatt picked off in the corner of the end zone. You can't blame James for this one. A, he covered because the number was seven and a half. So God bless. But also, Jalen Hyatt just gave up on the route. And this was not a James Winston tragedy. It was Jalen Hyatt not doing his job.
Starting point is 00:20:07 I don't know that the Giants have the same dead can't bounce against a desperate, desperate, and that's what they are right now, Detroit Lions team. It's shockingly going to be my Simon Says, Chad. Simon Says, presented by Hard Rock Bet. Minus 10.5. I want to play a game. Simon says. Wow.
Starting point is 00:20:31 It's a big favorite, but it's really about this Lions and how we always just play this spot, and it's just good to us. We always talk about giving out long-term winners, and this is the definition of won. tons of stats here why it's so good to back the Lions here and it's a unique spot right you're coming off a week where they didn't convert a single fourth down where immediately as soon as that happened it's good i was like all right i got to find some stats hello detroit won my heart what is this Lions team like after they don't get a single fourth down the week before shockingly they're nine and one straight up which you know okay they do bounce back after the struggle of the
Starting point is 00:21:12 week, but they're 8 and 2 against the spread in games after they fail to cover a fourth down. So pretty apparent they bounce back in this game. And those games they've covered, they've covered by an average of 10 points per game in that spot. So that's just bringing in what it's like after they struggle on fourth down. Now let's get to all the golf stats. We know golf in these games. He's always big at bouncing back because the lines have just been so good.
Starting point is 00:21:36 And we've talked the last three years, they've been 70% against the spread. So you're going to have some really good stats. with golf and Campbell is a combo. And all for a straight-up loss, they're 22 and 8 against the spread. So they just tend to bounce back and the books don't account for it. So we always play that spot.
Starting point is 00:21:53 And they're actually shockingly covered 13 in a row in this spot. So they haven't not covered after a loss since November 1st of 2022. Shout to my guy, Evan Abrams. That's an amazing stat where it's like, they're just a machine after these type of losses. and you go, okay, well, this is a big spread. What is their record when the spread's above four?
Starting point is 00:22:17 Golf and Campbell, they're perfect 8-0 against the spread when the spread is higher than four after a straight-up loss. So it feels like a really good bounce-back spot. We talk all the time golf indoors after a loss, 24 and 7 against the spread. So it's like, again, it's just all points to it. And you just look at the on-field matchup-wise, the getting upfield can be neutered. by the Giants with a good run game.
Starting point is 00:22:42 We know what Detroit want to do. They want to run the ball. They just kind of get it done against an Eagles team that just has a really different front. They are great against the run because they have great linebackers, which the Giants do not. That's the Giants' biggest weakness.
Starting point is 00:22:55 So love the match of the lines, love all the trends for this Lions team. And yeah, I can't believe they're making an over 10-point favorite, my favorite bet, but I've just been betting heavy to it, so I figured out to give it out. Can I support you?
Starting point is 00:23:06 Yeah, I know. Because I want to support you. which Lions team are we getting, right? That's what people are going to ask. Are we getting the Lions in outdoors week one, who scored six points against the Packers? Are we getting the Lions outdoors in week 11, who scored nine points against the Eagles?
Starting point is 00:23:25 Or are we getting the Lions in week two who beat the Bears at home indoors by 31? Are we getting the team that beat the Browns, indoors, at home by 24? Are we getting the team that beat the Bucks, indoors at home by 15. It has been years since the Detroit crowd has been this excited about the lions. Talk about restoring the...
Starting point is 00:23:48 Who do we think the Giants are more alike? The Bears in Week 2, the Browns, whenever? That's why I feel confident. Like everything you just said about a bounce back spot and Jared Goff and this team has shown us enough that they know how to manage when things aren't going well and they will have a sort of... mentality that does not accept this kind of performance. We've already seen it multiple times this year.
Starting point is 00:24:20 I do believe we will see it again. This week, we could get the Giants. Betting against Jamis and the full James experience does not scare me here. Simon, you're my BFF, you're my compadre, you're my co-host, I'm with you 100% minus 10 and a half. For this, I will ask that in return, support me later in the show that's fair and like i said it's just a unique spot the lines
Starting point is 00:24:46 that was the first time they haven't scored double digits in like 50 games so you know they got embarrassed like we last week putting up nine points and you know i just don't think the public would be on him here so that's why i'm making it this but i just don't think people are a little scared off by them right now and uh they might be sucked in on this giant's team of this number i just i want you to take the lines here it's too low this number should closer to 13 but you're getting some points here because one team covered in looked pretty well, played pretty well, where the Lions just got embarrassed, and that's the last thing people remember.
Starting point is 00:25:16 Look, we do have to ask, why do we think it moved from 11 and a half to 10 and a half on, you know, Sunday night and Monday? Because that wasn't the public betting into the 11 and a half. Yeah. Well, I mean, the professionals have been the Giants this year, and it's been good for them. So it's probably what it is. They just, they like the Giants. It's profitable to bet the Giants this year.
Starting point is 00:25:37 We don't. And we'll take all the sharp calls. Yeah, we really haven't. New York, Jets. that Baltimore Ravens, Ravens are 13 and a half, this moved down half a point. We're already on the Seahawks. We're already on the Lions.
Starting point is 00:25:52 I feel no need to figure out a way to bet the Ravens, and I can't find a way to bet the Jets. I don't know. I shockingly kind of like the Ravens, but I get what you're saying. I just, I can't get over how bad this Jets team is. Terrible. like my biggest issue is
Starting point is 00:26:15 Lamar in this team they're definitely not worthy of this number in any sense they have not played well consistently at all this season the hardest part for me is just going through all the numbers where it's like the Lamar the Ravens they own the Jets every time they play they just dominate this team historically and you know at home Ravens 6 and 0 straight up
Starting point is 00:26:40 5 and 1 against the spread against the Jets winning by 14 points per game historically. And I don't know if people know this, the Ravens only been around since like 99 or 2000. It's not like a long battle. They've just dominated in the last 25 years. Lamar is more of an eight point favorite. This career
Starting point is 00:26:56 he's 16 and 11 against the spread. So if you are going to bet the Ravens, I get it. I think me and chat have already talked about we already enough favorites this week. I can avoid this. But I get it. I'm tempted here. I just think this Jets team's atrocious and they could easily get rolled here in a
Starting point is 00:27:12 many different ways. So I got away with the last week of Cleveland against this Ravens team. I'm not trying to go back to the well of the Jets. So I'll end up in my pickpools probably end up on the Ravens. But I know people. I'm on three huge favorites this week. It's a weird week. Well, look, I was just going to say, like the flip side is we just bet the Ravens to cover our bases to make sure if we're betting three big favorites. We got them all and we don't choose the two that lose and we leave out the one that wins. And my buddy is a sucker who bets 10 point like teasers, he is loving this week. And I'm like, my God, this is usually not a good sign. The first game, I agree with you about Lamar and the first game against Miami, to me, he wasn't
Starting point is 00:27:54 great, but that was sort of an ease yourself in game after the injury. And last week, we knew we didn't expect him to be great because it was against the Browns. It was a rock fight. This to me feels like when, with the Ravens having now won four in a row, this is when Lamar sort of gets comfortable and unleashes knowing that he's not against division rival on the road, and it's not his first game back when he's still a little bit tentative. So I can't bet the Jets, so it's Ravens or nothing here. That's fair. A word from our sponsor, Hard Rock Bet.
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Starting point is 00:30:33 Hey, it's us, the Jonas brothers. And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news? Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast. podcast? Well, we didn't invent it.
Starting point is 00:30:43 We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how did we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. And, oh, we were thinking, I'm originally
Starting point is 00:31:01 calling it one of the early names of our band. Before Jonas Brothers was... This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, Hey Jonas, and then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast.
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Starting point is 00:35:11 Bengals, and the Bengals are seven and a half point favorites. Joe Flacco may still be banged up. Jamar Chase will not be in the game because he was spitting on Jalen Ramsey. Everything about this game with a Bengals secondary that is so suspect and so susceptible to big plays, second most yards per pass, the most EPA, highest EPA per pass, The fourth lowest QB pressure rate, I don't think I need to go on. Yet, the fact that the hook is still out there baiting us is weird to me because it's clear
Starting point is 00:36:02 the books are just hoping against hope against hope. The professional betters are going to come in on the bangles because they know how much money they're going to get on the Patriots. Yeah, easy bet, easy spot, long-term winner, bangles. If it's Joe Flacco, it's a no-brainer. But if it's not, I am happy to not have zero dollars and not invest in this game and walk away from it. So I got money to burn.
Starting point is 00:36:26 I'll bet the Bengals here. People want to be patient and make sure it's Flacco. I can't fault you for it because I will not have any money invested in a Bengals quarterback, not named Joe Flacco or Joe Burrow. So to me, if you're looking for why this is such a magical spot, It's the key thing we talk about all the time with football is how hard it is to win consistently. It is so hard to string together wins consistently.
Starting point is 00:36:50 And that's what's been shocking about this Patriots team and they're in a unique spot. They've won eight straight games. This team that, like, again, another team, the nerds are just beating up because they're just not as good as their record perceives and how the public perceives them. They're just simply not.
Starting point is 00:37:05 So it's a thing where I like, I love and respect for Able, and I think that's part of their record and how great May has played, obviously, at MVP level. But again, eight straight games they've won. Now they're on the road. Teams in this exact spot since 2010, 14 and 34 against the spread. Nightmare.
Starting point is 00:37:24 And like you just keep going back, you know, teams on eight wins streak are 39, 60, 61, and two against the spread. So 39% since 2010, that's 11 and 20 and 1 against the spread. spread since 2020. So like all these numbers I keep giving you people, it's just a really, really bad spot. It's just hard to play at a high level consistently and just not have things bounce against you. Like we say all the time, it's a really stupid game with a weird shade ball.
Starting point is 00:37:53 It's just not going to bounce your way and eventually it's going to catch up to you. So we're simply playing the number here. There is zero, zero information or data I could give you wide aback this Bengals team on the field. They are terrible defensively. The Patriots, especially scheme-wise, can out-schemed them. Drake May is playing at such a high level. just simply playing a number on an overvalued Patriots team.
Starting point is 00:38:12 Are they better than the Bengals? Yeah. Are they seven and a half points better when it's Joe Flacco? No. That's an egregious number where I think that Bengals can keep it close and this Patriots defense can be passed on. So it's just, once again, not going to hammer it because it chases out. We don't yet know yet who's going to be the quarterback.
Starting point is 00:38:30 But historically, it's just a bad spot for this Patriots team. But the books, the number reflects that. If this was six and a half, I could talk us into taking the Patriots right now. It was still under seven, but it's not. It's just moved too much, in my opinion. I got to give about the seven and a half on the Bengals. Totally agree. This is a week where there's a lot of, from a historical betting perspective
Starting point is 00:38:52 and from the way professionals like to look at these games, and we've got a couple of them coming up, weird spots, numbers in which the advantages to the team that just got blown out, and it makes you uncomfortable. And one of those games is definitely. the Cincinnati Bengals plus seven and a half. They're just begging you to take that seven and a half. I'm with you.
Starting point is 00:39:16 I'll be curious to see like on Thursday, we're going to have another conversation about this, one more about the quarterback. But if that seven and a half is out there, I would not be uncomfortable playing it. Like the confidence I have today, I know I will not have it on Sunday. That was just brutal last week.
Starting point is 00:39:32 Guy, we got so many games that are going to be brutal for us this week. Indy at Kansas City, Kansas City is a three-point favorite. This one has moved from three and a half down to three. It looks like it could move back to three and a half. The juice is telling us it's going to move back to three and a half. I have an opinion. I think I know where you are.
Starting point is 00:39:54 That's my opinion. I just want to make this statement. I want to sort of illuminate you. Ready? Yeah. What defense gave Mahomes the most trouble in the early part of this decade? Was it the Bills? No, no, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:40:14 Just say yes or no. Yes or no. No. Was it the Bills? Go with me on my gimmick here. Was it the Ravens? No. Cincinnati Bengals.
Starting point is 00:40:23 Who was the team that consistently beat? Who was the team that said they owned Patrick Mahalms? Remember all the fights between the mayors of Cincinnati and Kansas City? Who was the defensive coordinator for that Bengals team? Who is now the defensive coordinator for? the Indianapolis Colts, Lou Anirumo. I looked at the stats, 2021, when the Bengals went to the Super Bowl and beat the Chiefs in the playoffs and 2025 with the Colts. Defensively, the stats are almost exactly the same.
Starting point is 00:40:55 Running, I would say, 80% of the same scheme. If this Colts defense is healthy, can they get into Mahomes lanes the way those Bengals teams that gave him the most trouble used to do. Why are you laughing at me? It's just, you just, I just love how long you go with some of these things. I don't know. I felt like we were going to take, I'm going to take the Colts no matter what. I wanted to get back to three and a half, so I'm not going to force it into this show.
Starting point is 00:41:27 But this was going to be my Simon says if it was three and a half still hard rock. I really love the Colts. It's stupid, but there's certain teams players just struggle with. And Mahomes has always struggled. against the Colts. It doesn't matter who the quarterback has been. I mean, he literally lost. In his career, he has one and two straight up
Starting point is 00:41:49 and against the spread against the Colts. His two losses, one was Matt Ryan. The other one was Jacoby Verset. So Matt Ryan in 2022, Jacoby Verset, and I don't even know, 2018 or 2019. He's just struggled against him for every reason that is.
Starting point is 00:42:02 And it's a unique spot. It's a Colts team off a biweek, which, you know, bad teams. I don't think biweeks are that big of a deal but really well-coached teams, I think it is a big deal. And the Colts to me are a really well-coached team. Even how bad their defense is, they've been really competitive in every game they've been in this year.
Starting point is 00:42:21 And, you know, it all go back, it goes back to this Mahomes team. It's not the same Mahomes, and we've said it this year. There is something a little different, and it's starting to show up what the difference is. They're 0-and-5 in one-score games. It's like we talked about. Yeah, like at the end of the day,
Starting point is 00:42:37 that's the biggest thing, right? It's just not winning close games. and this doesn't feel like a game they blow out, right? I don't know about you. I don't think they blow out the Colts. It can happen, right? It's Daniel Jones. We know where I've been into.
Starting point is 00:42:48 He could totally pumpkin throw three, four picks, and that's how it goes. But just matchup-wise, it's really a two. This number should be. Most people have this model of two, one and a half. The Chiefs are getting the bump from what they've done before. And the same thing I talked about that Broncos number. I just, they weren't a three and a half point better team.
Starting point is 00:43:07 I didn't think they'd win outright, but, you know, that's, That's the year it's been for this Chiefs team. So a lot of unique stats to back here with this Colts team. It's a rare spot rate. It's a Colts team coming off the by facing against a Mahomes team and Chief's team. Teams in this exact spot against Mahomes, they're six and three against the spread, covering by five points in those matchups.
Starting point is 00:43:28 So Moehms struggled when those teams are underdogs against Mahomes in this spot, so off a biweek playing Mahomes, they are six and one against the spread. The only loss, 40, Niners in that Super Bowl against the Chiefs. So historically, this is a good spot. Think about what needed to go right in that Super Bowl from a home. Not only to cover, but win that game. I don't know if people remember it.
Starting point is 00:43:53 It's like everything broke their way in that fourth quarter. So it feels like we have a lot of things working in our favor here with this Colts team. It's really about the line. I'm not going to make people a bad, a bad line. Like Hard Rock, we say they're a sharp book. The pros have hit the Colts. They bet this down. Shop around.
Starting point is 00:44:08 Go find the three and a half. Find the hook on the Colts. because we'll need it. This game easily could be the Chiefs winning by three. We know Mahomes is due to have a type of game, but it's just about the number for me. I just, I think we're getting an afflated line and a well-rested Colts team
Starting point is 00:44:22 that's going to be able to move a ball against the Chief's defense. Minnesota at Green Bay, Green Bay is a six and a half-point favorite at home right now. Josh Jacobs is questionable. It's possible. We're going to have to make a call on this game without knowing his availability. at the end of the day, I'm not sure that matters
Starting point is 00:44:42 because the Vikings defense continues to be suspect against the run, giving up 140 yards to the Bears. What we do know is that J.J. McCarthy is very good in the first 15 and very good when his team is down in the fourth quarter. And in between, he looks like a rookie who's overthinking, not thinking, inaccurate when he's not pressure. If this were seven, do we bet the number and bet the Vikings,
Starting point is 00:45:16 assuming Cardiac JJ will kick open the back door. At six and a half, I'm not really into this game. Yeah, I think we're both the same page. We don't trust either quarterback or either team right now, Green Bay or the Vikings. This feels like a Vikings number. I am shocked. They've kept it under 7. Maybe I'm underrated
Starting point is 00:45:41 all the injuries that Packers have suffered, but how can you trust JJ on the road? He's just so inconsistent. He's so bad. You would think this would be such a big moment,
Starting point is 00:45:50 too big of a spot for him to show up him. But my God, they're just getting pounded by Packers and money. And this is touch 7 a couple of times and come right back down.
Starting point is 00:46:00 So I'll tell you, the pros are on the Vikings. They're back on here. And yeah, it's a, it's a unique spot, right? The Packers, for some reason, the floor struggled against COC. Like, historically, they're in a weird spot, too, where they've lost three straight, or they've lost two straight, I should say, against the spread, and straight up against the Vikings,
Starting point is 00:46:20 which hasn't happened since 2005 for the Packers. So whatever it is, these last couple years, it's been, I guess, going towards the Vikings, but I still think some of those stats, it's like, I just, I can't get over how bad JJ is. So, yeah, I think we're in the same boat. I'll pass in this one. I probably should be on the Packers, but I just, I can't trust them right now as big favorites. Agree. I don't know if we're going to agree on this next one, but I asked you for support, and this is going to be one of those games. Cleveland at Las Vegas, Las Vegas right now is a three-point favorite. It's moving higher. Most books that are three and a half, which makes me sort of not want to offer it, and it's almost Chad's choice, the Las Vegas Raiders, minus three.
Starting point is 00:47:06 Look, last night was ugly. And when George Pickens starts looking like he's Darnel Washington, the 300-pound tight end for the Steelers, and he's running over people, he's running through people, he's stiff-arming people, plus he's making guys look like they're not even trying to tackle them, that is a bad look for the Raiders defense. It's a bad look for people betting on the Raiders.
Starting point is 00:47:32 It's a bad luck for people rooting for the Raiders. Gino did his part, getting the team into or just outside the red zone, throwing picks, taking sacks, not getting touchdowns. However, team coming off a blowout at home against a team that just had its max effort in the prior week, a Brown's team we know gives up 10 more points per game on the road than it does at home. this feels like a light them up geno moment prove you're a professional i'm on the raiders at minus three let's have a conversation of a minus three and a half because that's where i think we're going to have to make a real decision because i i agree with you and everything you've said um my my biggest reason just for me to take the radar series just Sanders possibly might have put up the worst quarterbacking we've ever seen just data wise like which is shocking
Starting point is 00:48:33 if you go through how horrible some quarterbacks play, I mean, I'm blank on his name. I just had it. I just lost it. I remember we had a guy who started against the Chargers. I think he threw like five or six picks in his first start. Oh, I know you're talking about. He played for the bills for a while, too, I think.
Starting point is 00:48:48 And that's the fifth interception today from by Peterman. We just had a run of just horrible quarterbacks. And even that, Sanders somehow did worse in his performance. So I'll support it. It's a unique spot, too, where it's, it's a Browns quarterback making
Starting point is 00:49:06 their first start, which we've joked, but we've been playing it. We automatically play the other side and take the money line because it's got proof to it. Their own 17, their last 17 quarters for Sanders. The last time a quarterback has won making his first start
Starting point is 00:49:22 for the Browns was 1995. Do you remember the name of the quarterback? It wasn't Tim Couch, was it? His first name was Eric. I don't. Eric Kramer? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:49:33 His last name was spelled Z-E-I-E-R. Yeah, he played quarterback for Georgia. I think his number was 10. I never heard of him. So you remember him from back in the day, okay.
Starting point is 00:49:43 Yeah, I remember from back in the day. So that's the last time of Brown's quarterback has started and won his first. Eric Zyer, I think, was his name. Yeah, 1995, Chad. Yeah, yeah. So that's why, like, I want to be against you
Starting point is 00:49:53 and be like, this is, we're backing Gino Smith, which, you know, anyone can look up the numbers. Geno Smith, I think he's 11 and 20 against the spread as a favorite. He just, you hate him as a dog you don't want to bet him as a favorite he's even worse
Starting point is 00:50:05 as a favorite he's terrible's favorite but too late yeah it feels a unique spot are we going to take radars on minus three and a half that's that's the choice there and once again it's there's a bunch of spots numbers that are just bad against the Browns Ivan Sanders here the Browns since
Starting point is 00:50:21 2022 when they're playing a team with a percentage below 40% on the road they're two and nine straight up one and 11 against the spread they've lost seven in a row in this spot. And we've talked about they're just a different team. They're terrible in the road, this Browns team.
Starting point is 00:50:37 Their defense just simply doesn't travel. So I hate this one. I was hoping we could avoid it, not bet it. But I know there's a lot of numbers we love for the Raiders. I'll be up front of people. I'm going to be heavy on the money line of the Raiders. I don't know how much I'm going to touch minus three and a half. I just can't get over it.
Starting point is 00:50:52 Gino minus three and a half favorite. But I have a feeling Chad might get me there come Sunday morning. Well, listen, if we're not going to do Gino, then let's do something else that's really gross, and this one is going to be Chad's choice presented by hard rock bet. I am going with the Arizona Cardinals, plus two and a half against the Jacksonville Jaguars. Are you sure you want to do this? Are you willing to make a choice? My choice? We can't run from where we are. Sharp dudes can just see it. You know what I mean? I know. I just bet the Cardinals plus three against the Niners. Didn't work out for us. I know.
Starting point is 00:51:31 Jacoby Brissette just set a record, 47 completions going 4757 in the game against the Niners. This is a team that started off playing very competitive and has been trending worse and worse and worse and worse every single week. But I don't think Trevor Lawrence is long for the Jacksonville Jaguars. Let me give you some stats because the Jags just beat the Chargers 35 to 6. Liam Cohn basically took the ball out of Trevor Lawrence's hands in that game. On the first TD drive of the game in the first quarter, he threw two short passes. There was a long DPI and then it was all runs. On the third drive of the game, he threw a pick.
Starting point is 00:52:15 Overall, he was 14 of 22 for 153 yards. They ran it 47 times for 192 yards. My point is, I got a team at home. as a dog, awful blowout against a team that just blew somebody out. And if you're just looking at the score, you think that it's a really powerhouse team, and they're not. I'm just not going to be a buyer of the Jags.
Starting point is 00:52:44 I'd much rather invest in the Cardinals. It's moving to three. So, like, I wish I could have waited and made it Chad's choice at plus three. It just hasn't gotten there yet. Yeah, and the backup, a little bit we were talking about it being a blowout. Since 1990, we've had teams blow a 14-point lead entering the fourth quarter a couple times, and they tend to bounce back, right, the following game. So when they do bounce back, the game after that game, they are 7 and 24 straight up, 9 and 20 against the spread.
Starting point is 00:53:19 And even more so, since 2016 teams in this exact position that this Jaguars team is in, they are 0 and 7 against the spread. It's just a bad spot. The win, the game after the comeback, like, so basically I got blown out, or not, I shouldn't say blown out. They got a team comeback down by 14 to fourth quarter. They win the next game like they did, big, big win. They tend to lose the following game, right?
Starting point is 00:53:43 There's a letdown there. And just that's what I like about these trends of Storka data because it just shows, it doesn't matter if it's different teams and the people change, it's human. Like these guys have a letdown. It's just only natural. on the flip side, this has to be rock bottom buying the Cardinals.
Starting point is 00:53:58 They did something that I've never seen. I'm going to look into it if it's real, but in my life, I cannot remember, again, going back 25 years now following football, a team gave up 40 points to a divisional opponent and they gave up another 40
Starting point is 00:54:13 the following week to a divisional opponent. You just don't see it. Like they gave up 44 points of Seattle, than 41 to the 49ers or so. You would think their coach, who's a defensive guy would get it right and this would be a spot
Starting point is 00:54:28 they would bounce back against Trevor Lawrence and this Jags team like it's just it feels like a really nice lined up spot for this Cardinals team to get a win and bounce back
Starting point is 00:54:36 where they've struggled right they had that huge Monday night game against Dallas and they've not handed it a well they got like I just said they got blown out two games in a row against divisional opponents you expect them to bounce back
Starting point is 00:54:46 get right here and like Chad said this is really about the number like this Jaguars team this is going to be a public darling People are hammering right now. And they're undervaliant a Cardinals team that, yeah, they've looked bad. They've been embarrassed, but they're not three points worse than this Jaguars team and Trevor Lawrence. So I'm with you, Chad.
Starting point is 00:55:03 I like the Cardinals here. Can we not talk about Atlanta at New Orleans? Norlands is a two-point favorite at home. That's astonishing to me. Like, terrible teams, Falcons went from three and two to three and sevens. three and seven penics is is likely out for the year Tyler shock versus kirk cousins i mean it's icy hot bowl too after the flaco rogers game
Starting point is 00:55:36 between how old these guys are so let's pass we can i mean i i'm like you i wanted to be on i wanted to be on alana maybe that should be a sign of me i should be on the saints though because like you said you shouldn't have a real opinion on this game I will give some stats. We all know how terrible Kirk is, but I really want people to hear these numbers just about how atrocious Kirk Cousness has been.
Starting point is 00:56:02 They are 1 in 5 straight up, 0 and 6 against the spread, and Kirk's last six starts dating back to last season. And Kirk's career, which again, he was pretty good. The guy made a ton of money. He is eight games against the Saints. He is 4 and 4 straight up 3 and 5 against the spread against the Saints, even more glaring in his last. last four games against the Saints.
Starting point is 00:56:25 He is 0 and 4 against the spread in the Superdome. He was 0 and 3 against the spread. He's just, he's gotten worse. And the numbers back it up. He's consistently got worse. And it's hard not to overrate him because it's like we're seeing it right now. I almost got sucked in.
Starting point is 00:56:39 I'm getting Kirk at some books of plus two against the Saints. They almost got me, Chad. They almost got me. Even before the show I talked about it. It's like, man, I kind of like the Falcons here. But the more you look into the numbers, he's just been atrocious. And it's just,
Starting point is 00:56:52 I can't back them here. So I really wanted to fade the Saints. Like, again, they came off a huge win. Then had a buy week. You expect them to just totally fall through here in this spot. But maybe the Falcons are what they are, just one of the worst teams in football, loses of five or six straight games. Now Kirk Cousins in there who's just been dead or than dead.
Starting point is 00:57:11 Like, I just read those stats. He's just been atrocious. So, yeah, I guess people can pass on it for my pickpulls and other stuff. I'll probably end up bet on the Saints, especially at minus one and a half. Philadelphia, Dallas, Dallas is now at Hard Rock a three-point underdog. When this game opened, it was Philadelphia minus four and a half. So it's come down quite a bit. It's a three and a half in a lot of places, but three at Hard Rock.
Starting point is 00:57:37 So a point and a half to a point. I think it's one of the hardest games on the board to handicap this week, because are we buying the Cowboys Improved Defense? You know, with Quinn and Williams and all those guys. who came back and they got to look good against a bad Raiders team, like, are we worried about the Eagles offense still now with Lane Johnson being injured? Fred Johnson is playing in his place. I think that's kind of a big deal. We've seen how ineffective this offense can be without Lane Johnson, and it's more ineffective than when they're playing with Lane Johnson. So,
Starting point is 00:58:17 I'm having a hard time with this one. Well, we'll say this as an Eagles fan from the top, the Eagles are wearing their Kelly Greens, which they are 5 and O straight up, four and one against the spread since 2023. But no, the professionals are showing their hands here. They've taken this number down for four and a half to three. Shocking to me. Shocking to me, the Eagles are such so much better than this Cowboys team in every aspect. The only spot you feel confident more obviously is the Cowboys is the fact that they have a passing offense that seems like it travels
Starting point is 00:58:56 and it plays pretty well, but this is going to be the hardest defense the Cowboys have faced, obviously, this year. So at minus three, I'm tempted to give up the Eagles here, but I've put my money behind the Cowboys at a plus number. It's just the Eagles offense is so bad right now. It's so dysfunctional. It has to catch up to them.
Starting point is 00:59:15 Like they can't keep getting away from it. They need a coming to God or coming to Jesus moment here. They just, they got to fire the OC. Like, it's egregious at this point. And this, like I talked about coming to the season, my biggest fear was Sierra N8 won his Super Bowl. And now they're letting him pick his OC. And he picked his friend, Kevin Patelow, who up to this point,
Starting point is 00:59:41 it's just been egregious. The offense is just so bad. It's gotten to zero imagination. You only get defended so much. much they've had such a tough schedule it's like well here is an opportunity they're playing against one of the worst defenses in football where i i get they got guys back i still think it does it should not make a difference like gino was the one that blew that game they should have had a 14 to three lead to start that game he had them settling for field goals i just yep we've seen the eagles team if they get moving
Starting point is 01:00:07 if they get into the red zone they tend to score unless they turn the ball over so yeah i i cannot believe hard rock sit this at three it's really tempted to me to give out the eagles here but unfortunately I've already bet the Cowboys so I think it comes back up and it's a Cowboys number three and a half but minus three if you haven't made a bet I think that's a good Cowboys number it's just at this
Starting point is 01:00:29 point you're betting the Cowboys to win because that's I don't know I just can't see it I cannot see this number staying at three for this Eagles team if it stays at three I might need to load up on this Cowboy side because that's that's a tell by the books if they hold it at that number because it's going to be
Starting point is 01:00:46 Eagles will be one of the more public sides of the week if they hold it three. Yeah, I'm going to want to talk about this game again on Thursday, even if we don't think we're going to have it in the final five. I think there's so much more to unpack with it, and we need another two days to see how the numbers will. Cowboys are a short week, too. I can't believe the pros are a little enough on the Cowboys. Really interesting here.
Starting point is 01:01:08 Given a win or else situation in the closing moments, no team was ever better. You've got to love them. I mean, you've got to love the Cowboys. They're the most exciting team in the NFL. They can pull it out. It's astonishing to me, and I just wonder, like, I feel like they're discounting the Eagles offense too much
Starting point is 01:01:27 and inflating the Cowboys defense too much. To me, this feels like a bet on the Cowboys defense and that it improved as much as anything else. And we don't know that yet. All we know is that they did well against a Raiders team in Gino Smith, who, despite the fact we're going to back him vacuum this week against the Browns has generally been a terrible, terrible quarterback this year. So I can't get there with the Cowboys.
Starting point is 01:01:55 And I've sort of just been hoping this number keeps dropping so I can play the Eagles. So let's put a pin in that one. We're definitely going to talk about it. We're definitely playing with fire. Like we've gone three and two, two straight weeks. Both times the Eagles have been our third win. So we've been riding them here for three straight weeks. But like we keep saying, the public keeps undervaluing them.
Starting point is 01:02:13 And it might be happening again, Chad. Like you said, if it goes at two. and a half, how could you avoid that number? But that's a telltale sign, right? The public loves offense. True. It's why. And they've been on prime time just laying an egg every week. They're laying an egg. And meanwhile,
Starting point is 01:02:27 look at the Cowboys just did. Dak threw four touchdown passes. He's setting records on Monday Night Football. That's when you want to fade a team. Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers. And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news? Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just
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Starting point is 01:07:09 We got a Sunday night game. We got a Monday night game. We know people like to bet these standalone games. Tampa Bay is visiting Los Angeles Rams. The Rams are six and a half-point favorites. Another week where it's a relatively big number for Baker and the Bucks. News from yesterday, Bucky Irving may, may play this week. Last week, Todd Bowles was pretty adamant.
Starting point is 01:07:31 He wasn't going to play in week 11. He was limited in practice three sessions last week. Yesterday at Todd Bowles was a little bit more optimistic that he could play. I tend to think a big reason why this Bucs team has been struggling. You noted Baker scrambling, which I agree. I also think there's a dynamic with Bucky Irving that we're just not seeing from this offense that changes it for them
Starting point is 01:07:54 that started to become more and more clear the last few weeks when they've been struggling. Like, the problem with the Bucks this past week wasn't their offense, it was their defense in Josh Allen. So isn't this number too big for the Rams? Yeah, and once again, it's just, I think I'm too close to it where, like, I think I should be on the Bucks like it was last week,
Starting point is 01:08:18 everything's telling me my instinct-wise to be on the Rams here. And the more I dove into the numbers, the more it kind of played out that way. That this is technically a Rams spot, and the Rams actually play really well here. McVeigh, shockingly, after he plays divisional opponents, gets his guys up for the following game. He's 34 and 17 straight up, 30 and 17 and 4 against the spread in this exact spot after he plays divisional game. Where Baker on the flip side, he's not going. great in these nighttime games, which I always thought was true.
Starting point is 01:08:52 And like when I look, when I'm back and looked at it, it's like, okay, how bad is Baker? Especially I want to dive into him as a dog because that's what he is here. So it was a field goal more underdog at night, Baker, one and eight straight up. Oh and eight since he's joined the Tampa, this Bucks team. Him and Todd Bowles at night together, they're two and eight straight up. So Bowles obviously doesn't great at night games either. pretty shocking though that you know, Baker's had 13 games.
Starting point is 01:09:23 He's played a prime time that night. He's 2 and 11 straight up 4 and 9 against the spread in those games. So whatever it is, like Baker, we talk, we love him as a dog. I was like, okay, their numbers are back up that he struggles in this game because I just can't believe how big this number is. Once again, it took a miracle for that Bill's team to cover that number. Like Baker put up his best fight. He put up a ton of points.
Starting point is 01:09:42 Now, we both agree. Ram's defense is much better than the Bill's defenses, right? They have not had anywhere near as bad as injury law. as that bill of the defense has had. So, yeah, it's six and a half. I get why the pros are bad in this Rams team. I get why this numbers move. So I'll go with the pros here.
Starting point is 01:09:58 I'll bet with the Rams, but I hate going against Baker, but he just seems like he struggles in the spot. Hate it. Here's what's interesting. Here's what's interesting. The boxer playing Sunday night across the country that could lose to the Rams. The next night, across the country,
Starting point is 01:10:15 in Northern California, Carolina Panthers are visiting the San Francisco 49ers. They're seven point underdogs. If the bucks lose and the Panthers pull out another miracle, which tends to be their MO, all of a sudden, the Panthers could be in first place in the NFC South. And I cannot get to the Niners minus seven in this game because I think there are so many problems with their defensive backfield right now.
Starting point is 01:10:54 and we're seeing it week after week after week. Brock Purdy coming back is great. That rush offense when Purdy is there, Kittle is there, McCaffrey has more opportunities. He just called the game differently. He sees the defense differently. He puts players in different position once they go into checks and audibles and things like that. But I'm talking about them Mack Jones. I think the real difference here is Bryce Young scrambling,
Starting point is 01:11:20 stepping up in the pocket, being accurate against the depleted, Niners, secondary. I'm going to have to be on the Panthers at plus seven. I am too. I just do not get this number. It's another game I'm going to dive into more because we talked about it Sunday night. I couldn't believe it.
Starting point is 01:11:39 I could not believe we were again, the Panthers plus seven. I mean, Hard Rock here has moved to the six and a half, which feels like it's the right line movement. You know, how do the Panthers and Bryce Young handle him throwing for 450 yards and three touchdowns a week before, right? It's got to historically be a bad spot the following game.
Starting point is 01:11:58 It's just you can't duplicate that. And it's a weird spot for this team where, you know, since 2018, this Panthers team, when they're coming off a game where they scored 30 plus points, they're 5 and 16 against the spread. I mean, just a disaster. They're 2 and 13 straight up against the spread in their last 15 times in this exact spot. So we're basically betting like we did last week. We need Bryce Young to be the difference.
Starting point is 01:12:28 We need him to be the superhero because the trends are just terrible for this panther team. We always need that. Their defense is terrible. They're not going to be a... Christian McCaffrey could run for a thousand yards in this game. He could. And what I keep going back to is just fading this four-kniters team. There's tons of trends we've been going on this year.
Starting point is 01:12:47 I'll fade them after their wins and just how bad they've been at home as well. Like this, you know, this year we've talked about it a little bit, but you can go back to 2023. They're 8 and 15 at home against the spread. Eight and 15. Like they've just struggled and been overvalued by the market consistently. So it's not much to take away from other than the fact that they keep getting overvalued. Shanahan is a six-point favorite.
Starting point is 01:13:11 He usually wins those games. I think he's 9 and 4 straight up in this exact spot is a big favorite. But against the spread since 2023, I think it's since Christmas or right before. for it. He's three and nine against the spread, including 0 and 3 in this spot where they are coming home as a favorite after a win. So we keep talking about that stat since Christmas. Basically, they win, they lose. They win they lose. It's 1 in 15 now against the spread after a straight-up win and a cover on the road. So I don't know, Chad. It feels like it's too easy. The public and the pros are with us on this one. All the money, all of it is pouring in right now at
Starting point is 01:13:49 almost every book on this Panthers team. So I am happy to see the number of moved. If it didn't budge, I would have told us we got to avoid it. But the fact that it's moved has given me some faith that we're on the right side. I think the books are undervaliant Bryce Young and how well he's played and they keep undervaluing him this year. So we've been on the side with Bryce for his laid eggs. We've been burned by him a couple times this year.
Starting point is 01:14:08 But like you just said, defensively, this feels like a great match for the Panthers. I don't know if they can stop the run. They sure us all can't stop the pass. So if Bryce Young brings his A game chat, I think we got a really great. number here with Panthers. I agree. I agree. It's going to be interesting. We got, I think we got about eight or nine games that we're feeling pretty good about, or at least like somewhat, from from good to very, very, very, very good. Cincinnati, good. Seattle, very good. Detroit, very good. Pittsburgh, good. Arizona? Most
Starting point is 01:14:49 excellent Las Vegas mooy mooy caliente Philadelphia I don't know I don't know Rams and Carolina good so we got some work to do between now and Thursday to get a little more intel we'll hear more about practices injuries things like that this has been sharp or square part of the volume podcast network we will be back on Thursday with the games we are zeroing in on plus our head-to-head battle, brass balls, so much more. Watch or listen on YouTube at Sharper Square. Like the video while you're watching.
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