The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Sharp or Square - NFL WEEK 13 REACTIONS - Bills-Steelers, Falcons-Jets, Rams-Panthers, 49ers-Browns, Texans-Colts and more

Episode Date: December 1, 2025

Chad Millman and Simon Hunter dive into their betting results from NFL Week 13, checking in on the gambling action after a tremendous Sunday of post-Thanksgiving NFL action. Plus, we get all their early NFL Week 14 picks, predictions, best bets and leans. Games recapped today include Shadeur Sanders and the Cleveland Browns falling flat against Brock Purdy and the San Francisco 49ers and a win by the resurgent Houston Texans as they traveled to Indianapolis to vanquish the Colts. They discuss Matt Stafford as the LA Rams' upset loss to Bryce Young and the Carolina Panthers, as well as Tyrod Taylor and the New York Jets squeezing past Kirk Cousins and the Atlanta Falcons. We'll hear a quick word about the big game that took place in The Steel City between an injured Aaron Rodgers and the Pittsburgh Steelers as they suffered a loss at the hands of Josh Allen and the Buffalo Bills. Plus, we'll hear about Trevor Lawrence helping his Jacksonville Jaguars roar past the Tennessee Titans. All of this, plus their Shame On You and Heroes of the Week, all in one prime time episode! #Volume 0:03:00 - START 0:06:00 - TEXANS VS. COLTS RECAP 0:13:00 - 49ERS VS. BROWNS RECAP 0:19:00 - FALCONS VS. JETS RECAP 0:24:35 - BILLS VS. STEELERS RECAP 0:44:55 - RAMS VS. PANTHERS RECAP 0:47:52 - SHAME ON YOU, HERO OF THE WEEK 0:58:45 - EARLY NFL WEEK 14 BETS -- All lines provided by Hard Rock Bet Subscribe to Sharp or Square for gambling advice, best bets, and predictions from sports betting experts Chad Millman and Simon Hunter.  Follow on all platforms: https://www.instagram.com/sharporsquare/ https://x.com/SharporSquare_See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hello, Mr. First Place, Bears. How are we doing? Oh, we feel, you know, it's so pathetic. I thought to myself today, the football teams that I love the most, the Chicago Bears and the Indiana Hoosiers, are two of the best teams in all of the land right now. They are a combined 21 and 3, and one of them is undefeated and playing for the Big 10 title this weekend. Feels pretty good.

Pretty, pretty, pretty good, Simon. I would say people that fit your exact description, people that are Bears fans, Indian fans, even though it's only November 30th, who cares? It's like, I would care less. I know it's a little early, but expectations-wise did not see either of these scenarios. was happening as we had in December here. So I would say pretty, pretty insane times for both those fan bases. And like you said, it's every game that we've been talked for months about this periods, every game is must see now the fact they're in control of their own destiny,

home field throughout the playoffs. Come on. Who cares? What's their points differential on plus nine? Who cares? It's what we love about football. Titans, what was that, four or five years ago? They got the one seed.

It can happen, right? With Ryan Tannehill. Yeah, with Ryan Tannel, exactly. I've watched more TikToks of Ben Johnson taking his shirt off so the entire city of Chicago could get a free weiner circle than I care to admit. I just love the spirit. I love the way he's galvanizing this team and the city is behind him. And he turned himself that night, that night when he took off his shirt so the entire city could get free hot dogs. I think he made himself a hero for the rest of his life in that town.

He understood this is the magic about. John Johnson. He understands who he's coaching for, not just the team and the players, but for the city itself. He totally gets it. He's bought in. He understands the connection. He understands the people like, I am all in on this. All in. The other night, I'm so in. I'm so in the other night at Thanksgiving. We were sitting around the table and my dad was asking my younger son who goes to Maryland where are the other kids from his pledge class. He just finished pledging a fraternity. He's been, you know, went through Hell Week and whatever. And he has, my dad was asking, where are the other kids from? And he was naming all the places they're from a lot of Maryland,

New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, et cetera, et cetera. My dad's like, oh, no one from Chicago. And I tapped him. I'm like, I tapped my son. I'm like, well, you're from Chicago. I forgot. He was born and raised in Connecticut because I'm thinking so much about the pairs right now. I just assumed we were in Chicago. John, I'm so mature right now. I have about 50 Caleb Williams or free weenie jokes lined up, and I'm not going to say any of them. Let's go. You're a class act.

Our final five today, we're in Houston Texans plus four and a half. That's a win. Cleveland plus five and a half. That's a loss. The New York JETS jet jet jet, jets plus two and a half. Miraculous win. plus three and a half. It's a loss. We got the New York Giants plus seven and a half tomorrow. Our last one's out with the Tennessee Titans plus six and a half. Thanks freaking God.

Three teams today basically played one-sided football with no offensive support whatsoever. We bet on two of them, the Steelers and the Browns. The Steelers, Browns, and Seahawks combined for 15 points. none of them scored any points in the second half. That includes the Seahawks who were shut out. Oh, boy, we're going to talk about that game too a little bit because it was devastating to watch if you're a Vikings fan right now. This season, the Jets won on a last second kick. This season, there have been more game-winning scores

in the final two minutes or overtime than at any other season in NFL history. Nick Falk won with a 56-yard game-winning kick. Thank God, because you challenged me on the Jets versus the Titans, and I decided to own the responsibility of putting the Jets in, Simon. I told you I'd be the only one watching that Jets Falcons game. And it was, it was miserable. I'm just going to tell you that. You ready to get into it?

Yeah, let's get into it. Indianapolis at Houston, Houston was a late entry for us. Like, we hadn't really talked about the Texans at all, anything. We were going, we were leaning towards the Colts, but we came around as the week went on. Too much news about Daniel Jones and his injured leg. C.J. Stroud was playing. That was never really a factor to me. It was really about the injuries to Daniel Jones. The guy just hasn't been as good the last couple weeks. And it turns out it's because he might be playing on a broken leg. Great game. Great win for the Texans. Simon.

great, great win. Yeah, and crazy to turn around in their season they've had, but we talked early in the year. It couldn't keep going, right? They couldn't keep losing. They have such a great defense. And like you said, it's Colts. We started on that side, and I feel like it was the right side.

And the more as we went along and you heard the injury news, that should flip everyone, right? And it really did. That number moved a ton for four and a half all the way down to three by kickoff. And yeah, the Texans, you know, they try to give it away a couple different times. But like you said, Daniel Jones is simply. couldn't take advantage of it. So, yeah, I think JJ Watt had a great stat.

It's simple stat, but it is a great step. They've won every game, basically, where Jonathan Taylor scores, and they're one in three when he doesn't. So that just makes sense for that Colts team. We talked early in the year. He was their MVP. He was so dominant,

and they only could go as far as he can take them, but I said it right back to, he's their MVP, but they still need Daniel Jones to make those plays. And right now he's not been making them, like you said. He was making them to start the year. they've kind of falling apart. And this Texan's defense, once again, just stepped up.

Every time we need him, step in that game, they kind of did for us. And, you know, it was great having CJ back, you know, as great as Davis-Mills was for them, right, winning games and going three and O. This was a real test. And this is like a divisional setting type of game. Like that, both teams took this as a playoff game. So CJ really stepped up for a game. He was coming and kind of cold and made some big-time throws.

And, you know, that, it sucks for the Colts. all in, right? They went and got sauce and you saw in that game he went out and not as if he was this game changer, but it was a big deal. Like that's, that's a lot. I think it was a big deal. I actually think it was a big deal because that C.J. Stroud, he was okay. Like there are so many issues with this offense. And I don't know, we're now going two seasons in a row where the Texans are so far removed from the explosive downfield dangerous passing attack with C.J. being so accurate on long passes that they were in his rookie season, a lot of reasons for that, right? There's offensive line reasons. There's running game issues. There's play calling issues. Receivers have been hurt.

They haven't had the full compliment. But there were times today when C.J. Stroud did get the ball down field, especially some good throws to Nico Collins. And those could have been plays where Soss Gardner was defending Nico and they wouldn't have had that chance. But you still look at this Texans offense. And they are just very much. full in the red zone. There's no creativity. There's no misdirection. They run the ball under the middle of the offensive line. They wait to get third and long and then they have to kick a field goal. They can't even convert on short yard of situations. They were at the 15 late in the game. They could have gone up 2316. They had a third and one. They run directly into the middle of the line.

Don't get it. Go forward on fourth down. Same exact play. They didn't even try to change it up and did it again. This offensive play calling that is happening in Houston is going to be the death now for them as they get into the postseason. Their defense is great. Them, the Browns, the Vikings, like, those are great defenses that are so hampered by offenses at varying levels. It's got to be so frustrating to watch if you're a Texans fan right now. Yeah, like their offenses up and down, but, I mean, they do enough. every week to win. So it's hard to get too upset with it

where all of the teams you just mentioned, my God, are they just totally lost offensively? So sad. It is so sad. Let's talk about the Cleveland Browns. Let's talk about the fact they were five and a half point underdogs to the Niners.

Let's talk about the fact that the Niners, what was the final score, like 26 to 8 or something like that? I'm going to give you a stat. Okay, are you ready? Yeah. The Niners scoring drives, four of their five scoring drives, started on the Browns 40, the Browns 18, the Browns 26, and the Browns 14.

They had one scoring drive of the five scoring drives they had, where it was, I think, 37 seconds left in the first half, and they drove down the field of the four-yard line on a miracle one-handed catch by Kittle, just outside the five-yard line, I think. And that allowed them to get the field goal. Other than that, everything they did was on a short field. How are the Browns who were awesome supposed to be defending that? They can't do it. Yeah, honestly, I was going to do shame on the special teams of the Browns team, but I got

someone else I'm going to shame, but. I agree with you, by the way. It felt like that's what caused us the game in every aspect, right? The special teams, you know, they give up that punt. I think they got down to the 15 and then, or 20, they put it in, and that's how they get their touchdown. They get, you know, a couple plays here and there that dictate the game where, like you said, defensively, they're doing their part.

They're holding up. This was really, you know, even though Brock Purdy to the stat sheet, it's not anything special, 168, one touchdown. down to me he had a bunch of sacks he got out of that it shows why purdy is they started in the league right what makes him special and something that he can do is pocket presence because he should have got got and it wasn't like he took big plays either threw it away or did a check down everything like that but it was just a very veteran play that kept them basically in the game where sanders every time took the sack just every time and you saw about five different things

happened this game you were like this is why he dropped not just because this person high in the draft his wind up in certain spots it's like dude you cannot wind up when the pocket's closing on you just got to throw it from up top you cannot draw off on your hip back up to the air it's going to get knocked out you're going to get sacked and him get running from these de-linement like he got called multiple times from behind that you're like that's not even one of the edge guys it's a detackle catching him that he's not able to outrun so he was just bad today and you know and it was a game where you kind of need him to show up a little bit and he missed guys in a couple of spots and you know we knew going in there was supposed to be bad

weather i don't really think the weather was that effective like it felt like there was no passes i got taken by the wind they were kicking field goals kicking extra points so um yeah just a game where honestly think of special teams showed up for this browns team would have been a totally different game like i felt like the defense when they were in you know good spots kind of got stops and held their own it's just like you said impossible when you kept getting great field position to that team on the 49ers and they eventually just wear you out. That's what they do as a team

they wear you out and that's what happened in this game. So sucked. I had to watch the whole game because we were always kind of in it with our number. Like they were just like, we always feel like you're a touchdown away. And then, you know,

in that fourth quarter, it kind of opened up and we were dead. So, yeah, bad, bad, bad on this Brown's team. And, you know, should have known better in the back this Browns team after a huge road win coming back. Sanders just totally laid a nag in the spot.

So there were two special. teams plays that you're talking about that I noted and they were kind of back to back. The first was off of a kickoff after the Niners had scored that the Browns are totally still in the game. The ball is sailing out of bounds and the Niners kick returner catches it on the sideline at the five-yard line and it catches it so close to the sideline that his momentum carries him out of bounds. So now the Browns. No, there's even more egregious. There's a rule, Chad, which is again, that's right. That's right. It goes out of bounds. It goes to of the 40. Not even that. If you stick your foot out of bounds and your other foot inbounce

and just stand there and catch it, like he could have done, that is considered out of bounds. Right. That's what I mean. That is one of the easiest tricks that more guys do. And like you just said, he did the opposite. He tried to keep both moving us. Yeah, he thought he was saving the ball, catching it on the sideline with his feet. Yeah. So now the Browns are backed up and they have to basically punt from their goal line. And of course, the defense stops the Niners at midfield. So now the Niners have to punt, and the Niners punt returner has the ball go through his arms, fumbles it. The Browners get the, I mean the Browns fumble it. The Niners get the ball back. And then they score a touchdown. It's like, what are the Browns supposed to do? There's nothing

they can do. This poor team, like they're so good on defense. Here's what's interesting. After the game, the Browns defenders ripped Juan Jennings for comments. I don't know what the comments are. It's not reported that he had during the game that they said cross the line. To an injured player. Oh, is that what it was? Yeah, apparently, like, one of the guys were down and he was saying stuff and he was hiding behind his offensive alignment.

I think the exact quote from the guy he was talking about said, I see why he got punching the balls last week. That's what I was going to say. I'm shocked he hasn't been punching the mouth yet. I was like, damn, what did this guy see? say, I'm with you. That's what I was going to say. Like, it's interesting to me, for the second week in row, Juan Jennings is in the middle of something with another team where they're calling him out that's leading to some action last week. I'm glad. We need more Devo receivers. We had a nice run there in the mid-2000s that kind of faded here a little bit. AJ is trying to give us one.

AJ Brown's giving it a little bit of one, but it's nice to see someone else picking up the slack here and just like total psychopath in Jennings. I mean, look, D.K. Metcalf tried to be one for years, and now he's wasted in Pittsburgh. We'll get to that in a second. Atlanta at the New York Jets. This is the one, Simon. New York Jets plus two and a half. This was an ugly game back and forth, back and forth.

And then all of a sudden in the second half, it got a little bit rowdy. I was feeling great. Like the Jets were covered a fumble at the Falcons 1. They scored a touchdown. They were holding up. They got a touchdown to tie the game from Adonai Mitchell,

from Tyrod Taylor to Adonai Mitchell, a 52-yard touchdown pass. 14-14, like this game, did you watch any of this game? Of course, I bet it. It was our, we gave it out. My whole issue. It was our brass balls. Yeah, my whole issue with it was just we didn't have a good number. No, we had a bad number.

It would have been a no-brainer. We took, my only issue was we were taking a bad number of two and a half. And it could have bid us a thousand different ways, right? But like we always say, these stupid games, you just got to trust these ugly dogs sometimes. and there's no way to break it down. Like, this is an insane game. The fact that, you know, they scored seven points in the first half

and they got us 20 to the second half, this jet team, and 50-yard bombs. And, you know, pun returns, getting down to the 10 or kick returns down to the 10 and them getting stopped and only getting three. Like, we lived and died so many times. And missed field goals going both ways. Yeah. And just, I know people who work for teams and ownerships,

and you can tell when a coach, is just doing his own thing because he's like, I don't really care with the ownership or whoever's telling me what to do. Like I am,

I'm just playing for my own job. I want to play for wins. He has been told, I am for sure, that he needs to go for two in those exact spots. Like when he gets a touchdown with two minutes left.

Aaron Glenn, you mean? Yes, Aaron Glenn here. Like, he has been told, I am sure he needs to go for two in that exact scenario because it's great. They go up one, they're going to win,

or even better, they lost now because they're down by one. point and he'd kick the extra point like oh my god our immune chag gonna hold onto this one here and i think kirk got it twice he got it punted yeah got it back and then god bless kirk he's just so bad they got it he had a couple opportunities he could have burned us and he really didn't um and yeah it's exactly what we talked about though we faded it because it's like kirk is now a favorite on the road this is the exact moment to go again still without drake london without drake london and i do think that mattered like

there were times late in the game. He just didn't have anyone. Pitts played well. He can rely on. Pitts played fine, but Darnell Mooney was kind of non-existent. And at the end of the game, he alligator-armed a catch that would have been really significant. That guy, Sills, number 87 on the Falcons, he dropped the pass on that final drive where they could have put themselves closer into field goal range.

It was exciting. It was truly awesome to watch this game. I never felt like, I actually never felt like the Jets were out of it. I did. Just the whole time was like, my God, is this two and a half going to burn us? That was my, like, just like you just said, all the missed field goals. I was like, it's not landing on the two and a half like I thought I was going to. I really thought it was going to be a one or two point game and it kept staying on the three.

What was, uh, I loved, I thought he might go for, for two. What's interesting to me that you just say is he's being told to go for two. I would go for two. Like if I were a coach in that situation. Right, right. That's what I'm saying, though. He's just in his mind, though, he's like, no, I'm playing for my own record now.

Like, I'm not playing to get you a better draft pick. I'm trying to win. And, you know, if you're trying to win and play for a playoff spot, of course you kick the extra point there. The Jets are not that team. They want the number one pick. Like, what are we doing here? So I just thought it was really interesting that he kicked that

because I thought it was really telling where it's like, okay, maybe him and the organization are not on the same page. I thought they were. I thought they would bring him back next year. If he keeps winning, I don't know if you can't. Like they're, he's sabotage. You're saying if he keeps winning,

they're going to have to fire him because he's ruining all the plants. He's not listening to him. But I'm with you. It's good he's winning, but it's like you need a top pick, don't you? I mean, I can't wait for the office and talk to these quarterbacks, but there might only be one or two good ones coming. out so this game right here Atlanta might be you know this might dictate Atlanta having a traffic above the Jets now it's just a really unique spot it's and I think they're obviously going to

get rid of Rahim Morris yeah who's now they've lost something like seven in a row there are three and nine on the year Mike had actually the fourth fourth quarterback taken in a draft he's on his fifth knee surgery yeah and and he's not even going to be back until the middle of the year like this team of a sudden goes from looking like it had potential to being in the middle of a rebuild. Like complete start again next year because when Pennix comes back, what are you going to have? I would love that job as a coach though. Like you got a good line. You could have a high pick to get a quarterback and you have all the weapons.

Like you have Drake. You have the running back. I don't know. I have all the spots that are coming up. Like there's going to there's going to be so ugly coaching opportunities. This feels like a pretty good one. We're going to have a little bit more about Tyrod Taylor and the Jets in a minute. Buffalo at Pittsburgh.

Pittsburgh plus three and a half. Dude, this first half was so freaking ugly and chippy. And the whole game got ugly and chippy. Cam Hayward constantly in Josh Allen's face. There were multiple personal foul calls that weren't. even part of the play. They were after the play with people acting like idiots, like this was such an ugly game. And then the wheels came off for the Steelers as soon as the second half started. Aaron Rogers getting literally bloodied and having to leave the game. That to me was sort of

the perfect example of what this game became for the Steelers. I know. They teased us, Chad. It felt so good that first half. It was all the weird. real. It felt so real. Yeah. It was just exactly like we know Pittsburgh's a shitty team, but you saw that first half. That's how they win and steal these games, right? They play really good defense, keep guys in front of them, steal the ball, get turnovers offensively, play smart, play simple. But my God, Roger should probably should not have played this week. He was just nothing for us out there. And whatever happened at a halftime, I mean, I can't get over how bad started for us where, like you said, he came out, what is there, 1455 on the clock. So it's

literally the first snap. First play. Yeah. He gets hit, Strip sack. Like you said, Bloody Knows. They kick it off right away. No commercial break, right? That's just because they've marked a break. And the bills score. So it goes from being seven to three Steelers at the half. They have the ball. They could drive down the field potentially score. And instead, it's now 10-7 bills. Aaron Rogers is out of the game. Mason Rudolph is in the game. And for a second, I said to myself, maybe it'll be better. I agree.

And again, at the halftime, I think it was minus three and a half Pittsburgh. So it's not like the books thought the bills were about to come back. Like you said, it was a good spot for Pittsburgh to be in. Mason comes in, throws a pick, obviously. Even then, I'm still not freaking out at this point. It's like, okay, we'll see. They're defensive against up yards, but they've been holding them to three. and it really did come down that fourth down play.

Like we've seen it, I mean, you know, we didn't talk about the Thanksgiving game, but that Green Bay game against the lines dictated by fourth down touchdowns. Like these are huge flips, not just the totals, obviously, but the spreads. That feels like a fifth just for the bills momentum-wise. And, you know, if I would have came to before the game

and said, hey, let's fade Josh Allen here. He's only going to throw it for 123 yards. You would sign up for that, 123 yards at an interception and a touchdown, touchdown you're not used to the bill is winning that way with him on the road but we saw something we've never seen before which is historical you know what was it 250 yards rushing rushing yards against a Steelers team at home in 50 years the last time it happened by the way Buffalo bills against the Steelers 50 years ago and I told you the Eagles against your bears

gave up the most rushing yards in Eagles history since 1962. So we had two franchises at home give up the most rushing yards they've ever had. This is, again, it's super corny. We've been talking about it's not the football we are used to from the 2000s to what it's become now. The running back, not that it's the Eagles blueprint, right? They didn't invent the leaning into the run depending on the run. But all these teams have leaned into it.

And we've seen a total shift in the league where, you know, teams got small to catch up with speed to stop these spread offences. And now you're seeing teams like the bills who you saw they could not pass block. Those two tackled in there could not pass block. You know what they could do? They could run block.

Those are their big ass human beings. And when you're just moving guys like they were, I mean, Romo was losing his mind. The Steelers would not bring in a corner to cover the edge. I feel like anytime cooks wanted to go outside and pick up 10, he could. He would just, he would like, jump, run, jump cut, go right,

Tony Romo diagramed it 8,000 times. By the end of the third quarter, the Steelers finally had a drive to start the fourth quarter, and of course they got down to fourth and two outside the 10, and their creative play calling, not running misdirection, not trying to throw over the top of the defense, it was basically run into the middle of the defensive line out of shotgun. So, of course, they turned the ball over on downs.

before that series. The Bills had 300 total yards. The Steelers had 90 total yards. That's unbelievable. It's a bad Bill's defense. This is not a great Bill's defense. So that's the most alarming part of it. Josh Allen and Aaron Rogers in the first half combined.

What do they have? Five MBPs between the two of them. Combined, they were. 12 of 25 for 104 total yards. Six to 12 for Josh Allen, six of 13 for Aaron Rogers, 50 yards for Josh Allen, 54 yards for Aaron Rogers. I mean, it was atrocious, atrocious football. But congrats to the bills, you know?

They did it. Huge win. Huge, huge win for the bills. And congrass to Josh Allen. NFL record 76 rushing touchdown. That's the most rushing touchdowns by a quarterback. in NFL history passing. Do you know who we passed?

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Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. We were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this.

We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas. And I'm C.J. Toledano, and our podcast, Point Game is about defying the odds. Like LeBron heading into the playoffs without Luca and Austin Reed.

And finding ways to win no matter what. He's the smartest player to ever play the game. His IQ is at a level that we've never seen before. And he knows. Without Luca and Austin Reeves, I got to manipulate the game. We get a player's perspective on the challenges of the playoffs. I think Joker's going to be exhausted this series because when they don't have Rudy in the lineup, he has to really guard guys like Nas Reid.

He has to guard Julius Randall. And then he has to give us everything he gives us on the night-to-night bases on offense. And when IT's friends stop by, like Quentin Richardson, we dive into some playoff history too. Steve Nash would get that thing. That man, hell get the flying. He running up the court, licking his fingers,

why he got the ball like, After you go through a training camp with that, I said, you figure it out real quick. Get your ass up and down the court, and you're going to get the ball. So listen to Point Game on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Keith Giamonka seemed like a mild-mannered suburban dad. But secretly, he became someone else, a master of disguise who went on a crime spree. At the time, did it seem like a crazy idea? It seemed very crazy, but I felt so desperate that I felt it was the quickest, easiest way out.

Did you allow yourself to think about how it could go wrong and what that might look like? No, I didn't want to manifest that. I was trying to manifest success. Every family has its secrets. But what happens when you discover that your dad has been living a double life? that is not the look of an innocent man. This is going to change my life and my family dynamic forever because everything that had existed prior in my reality is now untrue. Listen to Deep Cover the Family Man on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts,

or wherever you get your podcasts. The story I've told myself about love or relationships can then shape my behavior and that can lead me to sabotage the possibility of connection. This Mental Health Awareness Month, tune into the podcast deeply well with Debbie Brown and explore the journey of healing, self-discovery, and returning to yourself. We explore higher consciousness, emotional well-being,

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podcast. Hey, I'm Jared Adano. You might know me as that loud guy who yells out, help on the internet. Help somebody, please! But there's so much more to me than me. I'm an actor. I'm a comedian, and recently I've become quite the helper myself. And on my new podcast, Hope from a Hypocrite, I'll be changing lives, helping people in need with my sage advice and thoughtful solutions. Sike, I'm a comedian.

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This is Help from a Hypocrat, the worst advice from the dumbest people you know. Listen to Help from Hypocrat as part of the My Cultura Podcast Network available on the IHart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, a couple of questions. our YouTube viewer who's in the chat right now, another shot. He wants to know if we can stop betting the Steelers. I'm with another shot. Like I felt like we had been getting away with it.

We've lost the mojo on the Mike Tomlin spots. This is not a very good team. Their defense is giving up the most yardage. They've given up in the Mike Tomlin era. The offense is as unimaginative as ever. And Aaron Rogers is injured and hard. hobbled. What are we doing with the Steelers team? I feel like we got to jump off this bandwagon here. Yeah, it's hard.

I'm with the guy, but it's just there's certain spots where they just fills up the Greenwinter Valley and we'll eventually have to jump on them. But yeah, for contest-wise, if we can avoid the rest of the year, I'm with the guy. I'd be very happy not to have him

the rest of the year in our contest. Well, look, and next week, I think they have the buy next week, don't they? No, no, they're playing Baltimore. They have Baltimore. They're six and a half point under at the Ravens. No doubt they're going to tempt us with exactly when we want to walk away.

They're going to pull us back in with an ugly game against a struggling Ravens team and a big number where we're going to be off the bandwagon. And of course, that's going to be one we want to bet the Steelers. I'm losing half my money on that Ravens money line. Just getting ahead of it now. Yeah, I was going to say, how do the Ravens lose that in that spot against a one-armed quarterback and Aaron Rogers? Can't even hand the ball off properly right now? This is an interesting question, too. And then we've got one more, but I want to go to this one first. Joe Connolly wants to know, excluding the old guard, Baltimore, Buffalo, Kansas City.

Which team in the AFC do we think is most likely to take over that position and get to the Super Bowl right now? it's hard it's a ton of unproven guys at the top of the afc so i mean it's not indie anymore like daniel joneses hobbled if i'm still a jacksonville yeah i don't say if i'm still a betting man you're just hoping the bills get in there you feel comfortable with the bills um i still see a path for the chiefs but if the chiefs don't make it the bills don't make it and i'm forced to pick teams out of everybody probably going to end up on denver they just they have a coach who's done it before and that's a big deal when the rest of the coaches he's going against you know hardball obviously has but it's it's it's a unique spot with this demberts team they're probably

going to have the best defense left in the playoffs so um yeah that's that's why new england's a fun team because like i said i mean guys again took it as offense they just give me the major drake me gives me major Carson Wins vibes the year he made that MVP run of just really athletic in the pocket, great deep ball thrower and the offense that's humming, they might have know any better. Like that's what's so fun about New England, they might not know any better. If they get the right matchups, they also could make that run. So, yeah, I would say any team would be exciting unless you're a Jags fan. It's just like you're waiting for the, you're waiting for the shooter drop.

So yeah, for right now, leading their division, Ravens, Denver, New England, I think all those fan bases should be really excited because the bills, the chiefs, They're not a lock to make the playoffs yet. It's really interesting. Also, I would say the Texans, if they can figure out any offensive. You just buried them. You just buried them. But the problem is you talk about defense, right?

Like, when I was thinking about the answer to that question, I was thinking the Broncos first and foremost because they've got such a good defense. But Bo Nix is unreliable. And as much as Sean Payton is a coaching genius, he still has to figure out ways to manage Bo Nix in really specific situations and hope that Bo Nix can execute on his vision, right? He needs to be the perfect avatar for whatever Sean Payton is trying to call in any scenario. The Texas defense is just as good, you know? The Texas defense could be even better than the Broncos defense.

They've got an incredible pass rush. They've got a great secondary. They keep teams from scoring points. like this is a really historically great defense potentially and they got the same thing but i think that there's probably more trust in cj and less trust in what they can do offensively because of their play calling you know what i mean i do think you just have high expectations for bow though like not to be the backer of bow nicks but he's had some impressive fourth quarter comebacks this season that i give him a ton of respect to that houston defense you just talked about he had two huge

drives. We lost that bet. He scored 11 points against that dominant Houston defense on the road and burned us. He beat us at the thing where we had Houston. So I agree with you. I don't like him or trust him. But whatever the magic it was this kid in the fourth quarter, he does nothing for three quarters and he shows up in these big moments. So I don't know. It's just like I'm trying to think of like the kid asks a really good question. Like this, we're an uncharted water right now. I don't know. I just still, I'd rather take Drake May or Beau over Lamarx. I've just seen Lamarck. I've just seen Lamar choke so many times in the playoffs. So I just, I'm having a hard time trust a little more even though I feel like that's probably the easy answer. One of the other questions

that we just got from Matt Mitchell that came in from Joe Connolly was about J.J. McCarthy. His question was, and I want to say it now because I want to lead into talking about that Minnesota game for a second, his question was would J.J. McCarthy ask for a trade? J.J. McCarthy is not asking for a trade. The Vikings might decide to trade J.J. McCarthy because they just don't think he's good enough and they're going to try to figure out can they get Mac Jones? You know, someone who can play within Kevin O'Connell's system

and actually deliver the ball to Justin Jefferson, deliver the ball to Jordan Addison. I thought, you know, in the game today, Minnesota is a 12-point underdog. And if not for all of the turnovers in Max Brosmer, not really knowing the difference between a Vikings uniform in a Seahawks uniform, they keep that game close. I know you're going to say I'm crazy, but the only touchdown, the Vikings, the Seahawks

scored of the first 19 points they scored was a pick six where Brasmer on a fourth and one was about to go down and underhanded it directly to a Seahawks player, Ernest Jones, who ran it back 90 yards for a touchdown. Their defense was in Donald's Grill all day, including two sacks, and two-force fumbles in the first 20 minutes of the game. Yeah, and it's another reason why a lot of people have pause about Sam Darner because certain teams know how to play them and make them look very foolish and uncomfortable. And once you get a little rattled, it doesn't really go away.

So I don't, I'm not hating on your read, but the whole reason I wouldn't let us touch this one, it's just like, dude, I told you, I tried to watch film on this kid. I'm just like, this kid looks like he's about to die today. So I need to turn this off because I'm going to talk myself out of this in a second. And, you know, even when he did have good throws, you knew what the deal was going to be. He was going to be highly inconsistent. It's his first start in a really, you know, terrible environment to be in, and he's not a first round pick. This is not a kid that's been playing SEC football his whole life, man.

This is not that type of situation. So, you know, him throwing four picks, taking four sacks. It's against arguably the best defense, number two, number three defense in all football right now. So like you said, it's. your theory about taking Minnesota of a sound, they did defensively what they were supposed to do. It's just you got a total zero from the unknown at the quarterback position,

which we say going to, there's just no way to account for what this kid's going to do. That's why that number fluctuated so much this week. I mean, we talked this morning, a couple of books had it at 11, a couple of books already had at 13. So it really depended on what sharp group of what book and which side they're on.

And it was just no one really knew. You're really bent into the unknown there. But the thing you did know is two really good defenses were going to play this game. So as bad as Sam Darno was, he was a veteran quarterback there. He didn't put his team. He wasn't throwing pick sixes on fourth down, like a rookie quarterback. From the 10-yard line.

Yeah. So just brutal if you did Beck, Minnesota, like you said, it was. The theory was right, but my God, got a total zero at the quarterback. And to answer the JJ McCarthy question like you did, he ain't going anywhere. He's going to be there. I talked about it. I think they'll go go to veteran. So I'm going to challenge them.

If they keep losing, get a high enough draft pick, maybe KOC does fire. another one and try to get a quarterback he likes. But to me, they just go to the veteran route. So I'm gonna challenge him, see if he takes that year, two, year three, jump. If he doesn't, you know, they're gonna eat it. They made a huge mistake moving on from San Donald. And you saw them hug and embrace after the game.

Like I'm sure he whispered to him, just miss you, but. Like, I just, he knows you fucked up. And that's the tough part. Greg Olson and Joe Davis, they did their best to glaze Max Brasmer. Like before the kid threw a pass They were talking about this kid, he could be Brock Purdy. They were making actual comparisons to Brock Purdy.

The first pass, which was a little bit out of reach of Jordan Addison, they were blaming it all on Jordan Addison for not catching it off his fingertips when he was diving for the ball. Like they did their best to make everybody interested. And then it was punt, punt, punt pick. That was basically the first four series for the Minnesota Vikings. All right. We have to talk about the Carolina Panthers plus.

10 and a half. Staff for two early picks, including a pick six. Six lead changes. The Panthers are down 28, 24, fourth down from their own 43. Bryce Young hits Teteroa McMillan for the touchdown. Are you kidding me? Carolina wins this game 3128. Bryce Young, give him tons of flowers. He isn't consistent. We know that. But he said that if I're record most comeback wins to start his career i believe he's at 11 now at the youngest stage i think i think he just beat like josh allen by like 30 days so you know obviously totally different spectrum josh allen's a freak of all freaks but that thing we talk about all the time the thing so is bryce young by the way in some ways right but the thing you can't you can't scout you can't

coach you can't teach is that clutchness that ice in your veins no problem driving the field the end of the games and that fourth down touchdown that was big time that was a risky risky play that paid off huge and um a game where we we did we said we were going to bet the money line we threw a little on it um wish you were more confident in the number obviously and you know we talked the rams were due for a stinker more so stafford was but even he bounced back like he threw those two egregious picks and it was 14 14 like he wasn't in that bad of a spot after really playing so poor or, you know, red zone turnovers of pick sixes, and there was just everything going wrong.

Like, this is such a good Rams team, but it's incredible what this offense or Bryce Young's done. And they, you know, looking at all the different team schedules and how the season is going to end, they're probably my number two team right now. That's like, I really cannot wait

to see what happens these next five weeks. So they basically have this biweek chat. Then they're at New Orleans. Then it's Tampa, Seattle, Tampa. I mean, oh my God, is that a jugger now to finish this season? So I love it. It's like a, you know, a team that no one really believes in. We joked coming to the year.

Their win total was six and a half. They've hit it. They now have their seventh win. A team we never quit on. We always loved it's been like a long two, three years with them. But this is always the team we envisioned, right? A really good offense with Bryce Young pushing the ball downfield. And, you know, can they go?

three and one in those next four games had. I don't think so. This might be as good as it gets, but, you know, they have a win against a really good Green Bay team, a win against a really good Rams team, you know, win against Dallas.

Like I'm looking at it right now, they just, they've won some games against good teams that I wouldn't count them out. I think they could shock the world and somehow fit, you know, which would be crazy, them stealing it from Baker

with them winning this division. I think it's not out of the world yet. Simon, I want to go, to shame on you right now because it is connected to the Carolina Panthers. Shame on you, Chad Milman. Simon, who do we love more than anyone else in the NFL? Barry Milman?

No, the Carolina Panthers. Yeah. Who have we invested in more than any other team in the NFL? the past several years. Panthers. Who did we say we loved in this spot against a Rams team that was at peak value

against a Panthers team that was coming off of a prime time loss in which it did not look very good but still had a chance to cover. Panthers? We went through a whole breakdown of why we liked the Panthers on Tuesday. We were both in.

We both loved it. I stupidly, stupidly mentioned some defensive back issues they were going to be without defensive backs because of injuries and suspensions. The guy who knocked Joanne Jennings in the nuts was going to be out this game. In that instant, we walked away from the game, did not go back to it. It's like we looked for an excuse not to bet on the Carolina Panthers as 10.5 point home dogs. When we have almost bet on the Panthers as 10 and a half point home dogs, in every single scenario for the past seven years,

no matter who the quarterback was. And yet somehow we didn't do it when they were primed to win outright. Shame on me. Shame on Chad Millman, Simon. Happens to the best of those, Chad. I'm going to go with, I was, I said, I was going to do Brown special teams

because they burned us bad today. But shame, I keep going back to the wheel, but shame to these NFL referees on Thanksgiving. I'm trying to watch these games with family members, and all people can talk about are how horrible these reps are, how rig it is for gambling, all this BS. And I just can't take it. They have to let either call down the New York thing

or let these coaches have one challenge, any call, whatever it may be. People were losing their minds. I mean, you probably know what I'm talking about. The Detroit Lions Green Bay game. Letting that coach call the timeout, what was clearly a false start. Do you have the camera angles?

There's just nothing left up to imagination. You have every angle, every sound. It's all people talk to the rest of Thanksgiving, where I'm the other way where it's like, damn it, these are great games. All these games are so good. And now I have to defend the shield, which I will do.

I'm a mouthpiece for the shield. I love the NFL no matter what. But my God, they make it hard in those type of scenarios where you just have multiple games with bad referee calls that are dictating these games. I mean, that Dallas game, that was a bad game as well. Like, people were really complaining about it, but it's hard to complain too.

much because it feels like the chiefs have gotten every call for the last five years. So it just, instead of everyone talking about the games, it became a thing about the refs. And it's just, I can't take it anymore in the NFL. Shame on you for now letting coaches challenge these calls. Just won a game. It's just some of these calls just turn a whole game. They can't leave up their refs that dictated these games. It's just too much money, too much speculation out by the general public. You got to earn the trust back of everyone. Who is your hero of the week? man i mean i feel like we are our own heroes because we didn't put any of the thanksgiving games

or that black friday game into it i almost tried to talk you out of the browns unfortunately i loved it but we are ice cold on our tuesdays picks chas choice simon says i'm dying here what simon says that's why i didn't even text chad people honestly about sunday or i should say friday's game because I was like this this bet is taking on so much water right now I can't even we had a good number it was six and a half in the contest I don't want to make you try to put it in I just been ice cold with my picks so apologies people I uh I I'm we are our own heroes avoiding these picks but for myself I'm killing myself Lee Simon says I'm betting these it's good numbers um but yeah luckily contest we should be sitting here two and three you saved us with a jimms

That's probably going to be one and four. Got the Giants left to get us back to three and two and keep us one step closer. If we hit it, we'll be up to 59% for the season. I love how you both shamed yourself and made yourself the hero at the same time for being ice cold in the picks, but being smart enough not to put those things into the context. We're self-aware enough.

We don't have the ego, Chad. We're heroes. We are self-aware. My hero of the week, Tyraud Taylor. Look, he was the reason. we bet the game. He did exactly what we were hoping he would do. He had that team moving down the field. He ran for the game time touchdown on a broken play where it looked like they had nothing going and it was going to end 2417. He scrambled for the yardage to put them in rain for the game

winning field goal. He had a passing touchdown. He had a rushing touchdown. Tyrod Taylor, you are the reason we are two and two right now. You are the reason I won my Jets bet a plus two. two and a half plus three and on the money line. I thank you, Tyrod Taylor. You are a hero. He is quietly becoming the Teddy Bridgewater of covering. He is 7 and 1 his last eight starts against the grid. Just undervalued every time by the public and finds a way.

Like we said, I never in my wild stream thought he'd be throwing 50-yard bombs in that game in the rain, keeping us that cover. Hey, it's us, the Jonas brothers. And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, name? Huge news. We created our.

own podcast called Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts. We're starting a trend. But this one's extra special. So how did we, how do we actually come up with a name Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this.

We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it.

What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas. And I'm C.J. Toledano, and our podcast Point Game is a, about defying the odds. Like LeBron heading into the playoffs without Luca and Austin Reed. And finding ways to win no matter what.

He's the smartest player to ever play the game. His IQ is at a level that we've never seen before. And he knows without Luca and Austin Reeves, I got to manipulate the game. We get a player's perspective on the challenges of the playoffs. I think Joker's going to be exhausted this series because when they don't have Rudy in the lineup, he has to really guard guys like Nas Reid.

He has to guard Julius Randall. then he has to give us everything he gives us on the night-to-night basis on offense. And when IT's friends stop by, like Quentin Richardson, we dive into some playoff history too. Steve Nass would get that thing. That man, hell get the flying. He running up the court, licking his fingers why he got the ball. Like, you go through a training camp with that, Isaiah, you figure it out real quick. Get your ass up and down the court, and you're going to get the ball.

So listen to Point Game on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Keith Gianmanca seemed like a mild-mannered suburban dad, but secretly, he became someone else, a master of disguise who went on a crime spree. At the time, did it seem like a crazy idea? It seemed very crazy, but I felt so desperate that I felt it was the quickest, easiest way out. Did you allow yourself to think about how it could go wrong or what that might look like? No.

I didn't want to manifest that. I was trying to manifest success. Every family has its secrets. But what happens when you discover that your dad has been living a double life? That is not the look of an innocent man. This is going to change my life and my family dynamic forever because everything that had existed prior in my reality is now untrue. Listen to Deep Cover the Family Man.

the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The story I've told myself about love or relationships can then shape my behavior, and that can lead me to sabotage the possibility of connection. This Mental Health Awareness Month, tune into the podcast deeply well with Debbie Brown and explore the journey of healing, self-discovery, and returning to yourself. We explore higher consciousness, emotional awareness. well-being and the practices that help you find clarity, peace, and self-mastery in a world that can feel overwhelming. The world is becoming lonelier. We're not becoming more social and connected.

We're becoming more individualized, but we actually meet people in connection. If you've been searching for a soft place to land while doing the work to become whole, this podcast is for you to hear more. Listen to deeply well with Debbie Brown from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hey, I'm Joe Dono. You might know me as that loud guy who yells out, help on the internet. Help! Somebody!

Please! But there's so much more to me than me. I'm an actor. I'm a comedian. And recently, I've become quite the helper myself. And on my new podcast, Hope from a Hypocrite, I'll be changing lives, helping people in need with my sage advice and thoughtful solutions. Sike, I'm a comedian.

I'm not qualified to give good advice. Join me and my comedian friends as we riff, rant, recommend some of the most legally dubious advice known to man. If I'm calling you, even if you're on your phone, let it ring twice. One ring is too scary. Oh, cream of chicken suit. Hey, cream. Cream a chicken suit.

This is Help from a Hypocrite, the worst advice from the dumbest people you know. Listen to Help from Hypocrite as part of the Mike Pulturra podcast network available on the IHartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Simon says, like you said, was Philadelphia minus six and a half. Chet's choice was Cleveland plus five and a half. Brass balls, New York Jets plus two and a half. Bully for us. Rock on a hard place was New York Giants plus seven and a half. We forgot to do Sharp versus Square this week in the rush to do a lot of other stuff in today's show.

I'm kind of glad because I'm getting my ass kick. in that. The favorites parley. Seattle minus five and a half. It won. L.A. Chargers won. Miami. It won. Tampa Bay. One. Los Angeles Rams. Ugh. Underdog parlay. Pittsburgh. Lost. Cleveland. Lost. Jets. One. Houston. One. Tennessee. Lost. Simon. What are some early liens if you've had a chance to look? If you haven't, I have two that I noticed right away. I mean, are we supposed to go back and take the jets again at plus 30? Yes. I mean, that's insane.

I immediately put that down. We might have like a northeastern crazy snowstorm up here in the northeast when this game is happening. So we're getting to outdoors potentially in the weather. Let's grab that early plus three in case that is true. And this number moves a ton. There's like again, there's a couple games I do like, but I'm just interesting. to see where the line's going to go on them because it feels like I'm getting a bad number,

but I'm probably going to be on the Chiefs. They're at home in prime time. Right now they're at minus four, minus four and a half against Houston. I know people are going to be like, well, you just tried to fit. You gave us the exact same spot last time. You're trying to fit Houston on the road. I am like Chad just keeps saying their offense is dysfunctional. They can't keep getting away with it.

I think this is a nice spot to back this Chief's team that I think the public is fine and leave them for dead. Like they've been going, they've been backing them every week and they've been losing it for every week. So that's a number I'm going to be on. I'm not going to jump and make people take it right now, but I'm going to grab the minus four just in case it does move. And another game that I like, but I could see it moving. Colts, they're minus one and a half. I'm worried it might flip because I just don't know if Jones got more banged up today and they're going to sit them out. This could move. I'm going to roll the dice on the early risk and just take it now in case

he is all okay to go. I could see this getting up to minus two and a half on the Colts is a favor on the road. Jets was the very first game I noticed. And by the way, as we're talking, that line has moved to two and a half almost everywhere. There is one three that I can see that is still out there, but that's juiced to minus 118 right now. Interesting to me also, the Cowboys had been three and a half point underdogs on the road at Detroit for Thursday night. When we started the show that number is now down to Detroit minus three the other game that stood out to me expectations are that Jaden Daniels is going to play next week Washington is on the road at Minnesota and they're one and a half point underdogs right now I bet it but I'm I'm I feel back

because I'm super biased I already talked about I'm heavy into the commanders tonight you know I put them another contest them in. It was one of my five favorite bets. And these last two games, I'm really big on them tonight, Commanders and the Giants. And I think I talked about Dr. Nick gave it out. They're both huge, a luck discrepancy. So should be the type of game where the bounces should go their way.

I think commanders tonight up to six and a half. I like your early read. I'll grab that plus one and a half now. It doesn't matter who the quarterback is for Minnesota. Right. We're really banking on, even if, you know, it's Marriota once again. If they cover tonight, that number will flip. They'll be a favorite if Marriota plays well tonight. So I like the early read by you.

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