The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Sharp or Square - NFL WEEK 6 Bets: Lions-Chiefs, Eagles-Giants, Cowboys-Panthers, Pats-Saints and more

Episode Date: October 7, 2025

After another winning week in their contest, NFL betting expert Chad Millman is joined by professional sports gambler Simon Hunter to discuss the latest NFL spreads for Week 6 and provide initial betting picks and predictions. They look at every matchup on the board to give their top NFL picks, including betting picks and predictions for Thursday Night Football, Sunday Night Football, and Monday Night Football. Games covered include Jared Goff and the Detroit Lions visiting the Kansas City Chiefs, the Dallas Cowboys and Dak Prescott on the road again against the Carolina Panthers, Josh Allen's Buffalo Bills playing at the Atlanta Falcons, and the Denver Broncos in London vs the New York Jets. We also get coverage of Eagles at Giants, Bengals at Packers, the Rams against the struggling Baltimore Ravens, and every other game on the board. #Volume -- All lines provided by Hard Rock Bet 0:03:00 - Start 0:10:00 - Eagles-Giants Thursday Night Football 0:13:30 - Broncos-Jets in London 0:17:00 - Cowboys-Panthers 0:21:00 - Chargers-Dolphins 0:25:00 - Seahawks-Jaguars 0:35:00 - Browns-Steelers 0:38:00 - Rams-Ravens 0:46:00 - Titans-Cardinals Rant 0:48:00 - Cardinals-Colts 0:52:00 - Patriots-Saints 0:59:00 - Titans-Raiders 1:02:00 - Niners-Buccaneers  1:06:00 - Bengals-Packers  1:13:00 - Lions-Chiefs 1:19:00 - Bills-Falcons 1:21:00 - Bears-Commanders Subscribe to Sharp or Square for gambling advice, best bets, and predictions from sports betting experts Chad Millman and Simon Hunter. Follow on all platforms: https://www.instagram.com/sharporsquare/ https://x.com/SharporSquare_See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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confide, professional better. Simon Hunter. Hello, Simon. How are we doing, Chad? Listen, brother. I stayed up late and I was rewarded for that. Over the weekend, let's summarize, okay? Over the weekend, five teams came back from two Dutchdown deficits to win outright.

Six teams came back from double-digit deficits. We bet on five of those teams. We put two of those teams in our final five. The last of those was the Jags. This was all mine, brother. I get all the flowers. You encouraged me in, I would say, a supportive way because you called this my baby and we should put it in.

Others might say you were bullying me. But look, we could have had an easy Monday. We could have been out of the weekend, three and two on Sunday. I could have gone to bed by 9 p.m. last night. Instead, I had to watch Trevor Lawrence. I had to watch Trevor Lawrence throw a pass two yards beyond the line of scrimmage because he completely lost where he was. I had to watch Trevor Lawrence get multiple delay of game calls

because he cannot seem to manage the clock and the play call and the movement and all the things you were supposed to do as a professional quarterback with a guarantee at $155 million. I listen to Troy Aikman, try his hardest, not to call Trevor Lawrence, kind of an idiot for making all these stupid mistakes, for trying to squeeze passes into double coverage and impossible windows instead of taking the easy outlet pass. Am I the only one when the Jags were on their own 10 yard line and had a seven point lead who wasn't screaming? Why the fuck are you putting the ball in Trevor Lawrence's hands right now? I would have bet minus a thousand that he was going to throw a pick.

Like it was insane to be doing what they had done. And yet, and yet, he's so pretty. He's so pretty. And he's so physically gifted that Pastor Brian Thomas, when he fell, he got back up, panicked, and just ran. Such a sweet, sweet boy. Simon, the Jack's covered the three and a half. Yeah, really, really dumb game. And we'll take it every time.

You know, I'm like you probably had zero faith in Trevor Lawrence was going to come back for the win. That was just a classic Mahomes comeback. It's over. win but shockingly they left the kid too much time and made some big time throws so we'll give Trevor his flowers again like you said he makes some so many idiotic plays that's why we rip them but yeah that's do you need to spot chat if the pros agreed with you even if I didn't agree with it I'm man enough to admit when I'm wrong and not that I forced you to put that one in but it was I did bully a little bit just because it's like dude I already gave you your flower

that you were on the right side the pros are agreeing with you stick to it like put it in like i'm i'm happy putting my own picks in but i also want you to put picks in so we're sweating last night and you have that feeling of doom and gloom that i feel every weekend which i know you do too but that one right there was like you're like you said your baby so i'm glad we shoved it in no regrets even if it was going to lose it was like i still feel like it was the good bet because the jags defense which is part of the reason i agree to take it they got that insane turnover luck that keeps going their way and Lloyd

quickly becoming the defensive player of the year had an insane pick six like crazy athleticism dodging this tacklers taking at 99 yards so yeah really really happy for Jags fans Trevor Lawrence like that's a statement game maybe dictates the rest of their season but Colts and the Jags sitting at 4 and 1

top of the AFC this is seasons shaped up the bizarre world right now I love it Well, listen, a buddy of mine texted me last night, this game is drunk. Because it was so weird. Look, when I liked the Jags, I made it pretty clear during the week. I didn't like the Jags because of Trevor Lawrence. I liked the Jags in spite of Trevor Lawrence. I liked them because of their defense and because they had been playing so aggressively,

defensively, and getting a lot of turnovers. And that's sort of what happened last night. So good for us. Good for the week. We went three and two last week in our five favorite. picks from our Sunday morning show. You can see the graphic. We're putting it up. We won with the Texans, the commanders, and the Jags. We lost with the Jets and the Rams. Three and two on the week. 15 and 10 on the year through five weeks. We are five games above 500. I'm taking that every

single day of the week. Make sure you check out that Sunday morning show if you want the games that will be our official five favorite games after we check out latest lines and injuries and all that stuff. This is the Tuesday show where you will get our official up-to-date record, like I said, for the year, now 15 and 10. We're going to review the entire slate today, Simon. 13 teams in the NFL are below 500. That's 40%.

16 teams are above 500. I feel like this is not parity so much as it is, like the halves and the have-nots, I want to know how will we have success and not get suckered this week and week six.

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The number is seven and a half. Seems like it's moving towards seven, but it's a slow roll. It's a lot of hesitancy. Two of the teams that gave up 14 point leads and lost. The Giants early, the Eagles late. Give me your take. thoughts, but I kind of want to hear where you're at. Yeah, I would say it's probably a Giants line.

Probably just take the seven and a half. I don't know how much I'll have invested in this game, but Eagles just something looks a little off obviously with their offense. And, you know, these type of spreads, you need to be a functioning team, right? So could the Eagles absolutely smoke this Giants team by 30? Of course. They have way more talent across the board. This is not the best matchup, obviously, for Jackson Dart.

going against a fang's defense that's going to give them a lot of challenging looks but it's a big number and we've seen the eagles struggle this season to really put up a ton of points offensively or just be consistent so um you know for eagles this is a get right spot you know public will come in on them this would be just like the rams last week this would be in every teaser every money line parlay this will be a heavy heavily bet team eagle's money line especially so i thought the seven and a half would just hold because of that like so many people are going to do their six and a half points seven Yeah, yeah. Six-point teasers.

But like Chad said, I think this will get driven down by professional money because of that hook and just the fact that this Eagles team is perceived a struggle of closing teams out. And on a short week, like we've seen, they could have random injuries that we just don't know about. And guys might not play like Sequin could miss this game because he's got a bad knee. No one really knows because it's such a short week. So it's tough picking these Thursdays games, especially when you just don't have an injury report here, early Tuesday morning. But, yeah, for me, just.

Just going off the number, I'll take the seven and a half with the Giants for now. Yeah, look, Landon Dickerson, we don't know his status for this week. I think that had an impact last week and sort of how the Eagles were able to protect against the Broncos. I think on the field, it's kind of a weird matchup. Like there's so many ways in which the Eagles offense is bad as they've been. They actually rank really high in all the advanced analytics. They're also excellent in the red zone. and the Giants defense is terrible in the red zone.

And like you said, it's, you know, Vic Fangio against Jackson Dart. Like, their pass rush for the Giants is very inconsistent. Is that a chance for the Eagles to, as you just mentioned, in a get right spot? Tricky one. Tricky one. I don't love it.

I don't like either side. Sir. International waters, the land that law forgot. Simon. I know you love England because you're from there. Not the posh part of England like London, but you are from England this weekend's game between the Denver Broncos and the New York Jets. We get the full English, which would make me sick to my stomach, like watching the New York Jets early on a Sunday morning. They too are seven and a half point underdogs against the Broncos. of course we think there's value in the Jets

for whatever that means when you're betting on the Jets because every week there's going to be value on the Jets because nobody wants to bet them and everybody's going to be on the Broncos because they just beat the Eagles on the road and came back from 14 points down but like what is value worth if we're just betting on really bad teams?

Yeah and I'll, end up being on some type of form of the Broncos money line, I guess. But I don't know what to do here with this number. Like this is the type of game too where I might take the alt line. Like I might take Broncos minus 13 and a half or something because. Oh, that's interesting. Yeah, they could just roll. Like we've seen, there's Jets team is highly dysfunctional. Now they're on the road in a international game with not that much leadership. Like how are these guys going to handle that? And this Broncos team, the fear for them, if you're looking for a reason to fade them,

it's like, did they just win their Super Bowl? Their locker room after that game was like smoke-filled, booze is going. They apparently took the bus through Broad Street of Philadelphia Blassey and Meek Mill

celebrating after the win. And it's like, okay, I get it. Like you took down the Eagles, it's a huge win. How are the Broncos going to react to this? Because it's like, oh my God. Talk about totally opposite spectrums where the vibes could not be higher

for this Broncos team and this Jets team could easily have quit on Aaron Glenn in this season, sitting here at 0.05 with zero takeaways, which is, I don't know if you saw that stat. It's like never been done in football. It's going to be 05 while having zero takeaways. So nightmare, nightmare season for the Jets. I can't keep punishing myself taking their side,

even though it's like I want to take this number so bad. Of course. I'll just be a sucker with the public, take the favorites. And it just feels like last week, like I wanted to be on the Browns, talked myself out of it because it was Gabriel and we've seen how these favorites have done internationally and I was hating myself for three quarters and then somehow the favorite found away stupidly and covered that three and a half where it's like it's just these international

games somehow these favorites cover so yeah trying trying not to be on the jet side is best of my ability like no matter what I'm not going to be in this jet side I'm just fighting it right now it's tough I know I feel I feel this the same exact way because it's it it feels like at some point in our lives, this would have been an automatic play. And like, we can see the flickers of promise that suck us in. And you can see underlying metrics that make you excited about the jets and the way they can move the ball and they're not that terrible on third downs and they're rushing the ball really well. Those flickers are not translating into real points on the board or wins in our pockets.

I don't think we have to bet this game at all. Dallas at Carolina, Carolina Panthers plus three and a half. Part of me feels like we got our Panthers right spot win on Sunday against Miami, and we should avoid the Panthers at all costs for the rest of the year. Because there could be 1,000 yards of offense in this game. You know, the Panthers just had a 200-yard rusher against Miami. The Cowboys had a guy go for 140 and average 8.4 yards per carry against the Jets. you could argue

DAC is playing as well as anybody except maybe Baker. Like if you had to guess an MVP right now, it would probably be Baker. Dak is doing this without C.D. Lamb without 80% of his offensive line, which was the main

reason we bet against him the other day. Like, it's easy to see this being a game where the hook matters a lot. Also very easy to pass on it. Shocked to hear this from Chad, But really. Yeah, this is a no brainer Panthers.

There's three and a halfs out there. You grab it. This is almost my Simon says bet. So I'm happy to hear that you're just interested or you kind of like the Cowboys here. So I don't like the Cowboys at all. I don't really like either of them. What are you Chad passed this week? How many games you're going to pass on?

Jesus Christ, man. Maybe all of them. Maybe I only want to make two bets this week after one of your Jags bet. Now you're passing everything. What is happening? I am disciplined. I am really pleased with how you're doing a gambling show here. So I'm going to need picks eventually.

Uh, yeah. Yeah. Give me a Panthers. is plus three and a half. It's, Panthers magic might just be at home. Maybe that's our thing for them this year. Maybe I agree with you.

We can avoid them on the road. But at home, they have this different type of confidence that I really see with Bryce Young and the way the offense moves. And again, small sample. They're two and three this season. But their two wins have been at home

and there are two wins at home. They put up 27 points and 30 points. Like Atlanta's defense, okay, they're not the best. they still had a great game at home in that spot. And then that Miami comeback, it just showed me a lot. Like you said, down 17-0, Bryce Young hung in the pocket and made some big-time throws

while getting just beat up. And he's no worse for the wear. Like I checked today, not on injury report, so I think he's fine. And yeah, I'm shocked you don't like this. Like this Cowboys team is good. Like you said, Dax playing at an incredibly high level. They have been incredibly fortunate as well, though.

These last couple weeks, I think we can all agree. Like that Packers game, they could easily have been gone sideways and been down 20 to nothing in that game. So I just think this Cowboys team will keep being overvalued. And like you're feeling,

I think the public will be in the same boat. Who's going to be back in this Panthers team? Especially at Hard Rock here at 3. Every one of the grounds are going to be coming in on this Cowboys team, especially at minus 3. So I think it's going to be a good number. I literally have this graded at a pick.

So it's like I'm getting a ton of value in my opinion on Carolina. Cowboys, the Panthers, they're not that much different, especially with all the injuries to this Cowboys team. So, yeah, three and a half with the hook, no-brainer, might have to bully you to have this one in our contest at some point. I just, I can't get away from it. Like, there's a lot of three-and-a-half dogs I like this week.

This is one of them. Just too much disrespect to a Carolina team that I feel like has proven to us, the sportsbook, and everyone else. They're not what they were last year. This is a functioning offense where the quarterback that could push the ball downfield, which was lacking last year. And now you see Bryce Young has some confidence. He's making some big time throws.

Like you said, this is going to be a shootout. That's why I like the hook. Get the three and a half if you count on Carolina. I did not expect you to have Vastroggian opinion on this game. Yeah, well, I'm not passing, that's for sure. Unbelievable. I don't have to have an opinion on every single game. Sure you don't.

I'm not against this game. I'm just not for either side right now. I know. I'm just saying if you pass on four more games, I'm just going to start talking to myself. Los Angeles Chargers at Miami Dolphins. Dolphins are four and a half point underdogs at home. This is how bad the Chargers looked against the commanders. The early moves in this game were on the dolphins pushing the line from five and a half to four and a half. not a huge move. Five is a dead number, but early moves are usually going to be made by professional better.

So that is an interesting indicator to me. In addition to all the O-line injuries the Chargers have, they're now going to be without O'Mary and Hampton, who's on injured reserve. What do we think? What do we think? We need to happen for Miami to keep this game close and cover four and a half points.

Well, I can't believe they've moved to Chargers to four here in Jersey. I might be a sucker. I kind of like the Chargers and this number. Yeah. Isn't this a great match for them going against a horrible Miami secondary? Yes. And a not good pass rush. Right.

They're not good pass rush. So I don't really get the professional love. I'm looking forward to hearing from a bunch of guys on this one because I haven't really bet this one because I really kind of thought I was going to be on Miami, especially like Sunday night. Like you said, I think it was five and a half. And it's like, okay. maybe this gets the six and we take a position here on Miami,

but it's gone the other way and it's making me be like, okay, this is starting to become a Chargers number. So four, three and a half if it gets there, I'm really starting to like that Chargers side and trying not to overreact, like you said, big injuries, obviously, the rookie running back is a big deal. But I also think that it's just a plug and play with that run scheme. Like the whole run scheme is based on safety is being pushed back

because Herbert's so incredibly gifted and throwing the ball downfield. You're usually running against really weak body, So you're going to miss his speed, but I think the other guys they're bringing in there I think they're able to plug and play like I don't I'm not trying to overreact too much of the rookie missing this game. It's the my favorite thing I saw from a lot of Chargers fans was they have this unique opportunity with this team because this division feels like it's up for grabs the Saints have a arguably one of the best centers in football and Kamara go give up whatever it takes go get the Saints center go get Kamara. that that's like to me this is like an easy play for the chargers because even if the rookie comes back you still have one of the best receiving backs and football that's on his way out of the saints like this is it for him so i've loved that a lot of people talking about for the chargers like that to me is a winning move from their front office your center is abysmally bad go get a center fix that middle all we'll be back soon

enough that could be a huge upgrade as chargers team so that's talking future plans just for this game though I'm starting to really love this Chargers side and shocked because I really did think I'd be all over Miami, but this is moving too much. This Miami team is bad. We both agree. This is a bad Miami team. And I don't know if you saw Mike McDonnell walking back to the locker room. That looked like a man.

That is totally done, checked out. So this could another game where I'm betting Altline, like I'm going to take chargers minus nine and a half. I'll take them a minus 13 and a half. This could easily be our hardball game where his team just rolls and just, you know, defense dominates this matchup. Simon, I asked the question about why do we think, what do we think Miami needs to do to keep this game close and cover the four and a half?

Because I actually can't see a scenario. You never know Tua, you never know. But they're just not like, the play calling isn't good enough. The confidence isn't good enough. Can't run the ball. They can't run the ball. It's crazy. And so like we saw it against the Panthers.

Like they had a 17 point lead and even against the Panthers, I kind of never thought it was a dead bet. I thought, all right, it's like a coach in Canales who has kept this team moving forward. It's Bryce Young who seems to be unconscious when he comes to losing like he just doesn't seem to care. And that, by the way, plays into your argument for the Panthers against the Cowboys. But Miami, I looked at the play-by-play every single drive between that 17-0 lead and when they finally scored in the fourth quarter, three plays punt, three plays punt, three plays punt. They couldn't run the ball.

It was short passes that were incomplete. It was a lot of penalties. It was the Miami team that is just not very well coached with not enough talent against a Chargers team that will be well coached. The number is shrinking. Of two losses. Of two losses.

Why wouldn't I like the Chargers in this spot? Love they were in sync. I don't want to pass on every game. Well, we need one favor. I'm glad at least we found a favorite to start this week where it's like if we get the three and a half, this will probably be an auto play for contest. Brother, I got a whole bunch more favorites

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in the TikTok podcast network on TikTok. Seattle at Jacksonville. Dude, flip-flop. And away this game. It's like a fish out of water. Just flip and flap and flip and flap. Two nights ago, the Seahawks were one and a half point dogs.

This moved off some money on Monday morning before the Jags Monday night football game against Kansas City. Then it moved again right after it moved to the Seahawks being favorites before the game yesterday. Then it moved again to the Seahawks as underdogs right after the Jags beat the chiefs. I don't know how I don't love Seattle here. Like, I really want to see the practice reports because, like, last week they were without Julian Love, their safety, without Devin Witherspoon, their cornerback, without DeMarcus, their defensive end. Tarik Wolin left the game with a concussion. He's not even that good. He's been getting burned all year.

Then they have backups in. You could see the issues they were having in the secondary with the way the bucks were just able to move the ball downfield in a shootout. But like, I'm not back in Trevor Lawrence anymore. I feel like I got what I needed out of him. It's actually not that much of a mystery. He's incredibly talented. There's no doubt about it and physically gifted. You watched him make that third and seven throw to Brian Thomas in the last drive

that was just perfect. You watched him make that play where he got tripped by his offensive lineman, got up, was panicked and realized, oh, I can run because I'm 6-6-2-30. and get into the end zone. Like, obviously the guy has physical gifts, but he's also the guy who gets these delay games that his coach seems to let him get the delay of games and not take timeouts as punishment.

Like, I don't think he's a guy you can bet on in a regular basis if the number isn't perfect. So I kind of like Seattle here. That's going to be the square side for sure. Seahawks. Like I agree with you. I get what you're saying here, but this, this feels like another just like Monday night felt like a jack spot. This feels like another jack spot. Like you just said, those injuries, that's a big deal to that. Yeah, that's why I don't want to bet it yet. I mean, I'm fair. I like Seattle if I can get the injury news that I want. Right, right. If not, it's,

it's not really a game that I feel comfortable betting the Seahawks. If that injury news comes out good, that number's going to flip again because the public, like you just said, they're going to be with you. anyone that won on the Jags last night, they're not re-betting this Jags team. They're having to be investing that money to the Seahawks because I think they feel the same way as Chad. You got away with one. In their mind, Seahawks are a better team.

Even though there's some type of weird voodoo magic going on all this Jags team, I still don't think people are giving them enough credit for it where it's like that defense, those turnovers, a lot of that is coaching. Like him putting these guys in the right positions to make that play.

Lloyd cutting down on that Travis Kelsey, that's tape. Yeah. That's him up at the line. And then he knows where Kelsey is, and he's breaking left into it. And I love that whole play because it's like just pure athleticism and a guy that, you know, has come out of nowhere here. That's really shocked run and really taking the shagged defense to another level because if you get turnovers like that, what she keeps doing, like we see it wins these games. We were dead in that game. Like that, Trevor Lawrence getting that ball smacked out at the one-yard line.

When you're like Chad knows, we're on a dog like that against Mahalo. homes you're usually not coming back we needed that pick six desperately so i get your hesitation from the jacks here but that's going to be the sharp side like i know when we get when i talk to people take calls this week that'll be the side i i'm with you i wanted to be on the seahawks especially when i saw this line like you said yesterday then was a dog i was like oh my god if the jaggs gets smoked this is going to flip the minus two um for the seahawks team it hasn't it's been tons of money's come in on the seahawks but it's just held um after like you said it did flip earlier now that has been back to this Jags team.

So be careful, people out there. This might be another week that this Jags are actually in a pretty good spot. And the Seahawks are just too banged up. 1 p.m. starting that Florida sun. You don't want your backups being worn out in the second half having to think. Again, that's what a problem with these teams I go down to Florida. It's like not the first half. It's that second half where you're worn out and you're having to react and think.

It's just a lot to ask of these backups are going to be starting in key positions for the Seahawks. Maybe that's Trevor Lawrence's problem. The heat. The heat and the thinking. The heat and the thinking. All the thinking is too much for Trevor. No, we were joking before the show. Like the Liam Cohen punishing him, not calling timeouts, when he knows the clock's going to zero.

And I love it. It's like truly big brother, little brother where they've had obviously hundreds of conversations. Yes. But him watching the game clock. And he consistently keeps not doing. it and every time you see it he's next to the ref too and his arms are still crossed leam it's like hilarious you're just like he's doing this on purpose like even though in the huge moments he's still doing it on purpose of all like so i get your hesitation here but yeah for

for our show i'm the letting the people know it's it's it's gonna be the square side taking that sialx side just be careful with it it's it's gonna be one like there's a couple public dogs this week that's one are going to be one of the bigger public dogs oh yeah well look You always get in trouble when you're betting on a game that's flipping back and forth and you feel like you're so excited because you're getting the team that you think is better as a one and a half point underdog. And like I said, Chad's disciplined. Okay.

So Chad doesn't just reach. He doesn't bet as soon as he sees something thinking he's got an angle. Chad waits to get the full load of information. Chad's waiting to find out. out who's playing on the Seattle Seahawks defense before he makes a bet. Chad's no Trevor. Chad can think and bet or not bet at the same exact time. We've hit our Chad limit.

Chad wants to talk about the Cleveland Browns at the Pittsburgh. Steelers. Steelers are five-point favorites. I'm a little surprised. This one has moved since Sunday night in the Steelers direction. It went from four and a half to five and a half and then finally found some pushback. My first instinct was at the bus. Browns were the side, especially against Mike Tomlin, who as a short home favorite, we've just historically won.

Like, you bet Mike Tomlin, rah, right, right, Mike Tomlin is a dog on the road. You fade Mike Tomlin at home. The on-the-field situation might be too favorable for the Steelers to ignore. They've had two weeks to get healthy. Joey Porter's coming back. Jalen Warren's coming back. Alex Highsmith probably coming back. I do think he's a, he's a pitiful.

it point for the Steelers defensively. Like they are a much, much better team when he's playing. I don't love Dylan Gabriel in his first official road game against the Steelers. Interesting spot. I can see why the number shot up a little bit more than I could on Sunday. Yeah, it feels like it's my laziest bet of the week, but I talk a little bit on Sunday. How are you not on Pittsburgh here? You have Cleveland who's coming off.

This is the third straight road game. It's like nightmare scenario. They third straight road game while playing really tough teams, right? Detroit Vikings now a Pittsburgh team. That's like Chatsack coming off an extended rest by week. It's like just brutal for the Browns. And, you know, I like, like I said, I like to move to Dylan Gabriel. At the same time, it's another just bad spot for them.

I know there are no good spots. You just got to play the games you're going to play as a rookie quarterback. But like you said, really. tough coming into this game against a Pittsburgh defense that should have a lot of guys back so if you're Pittsburgh this is a get right spot you know the only thing we can really do like we always do with Cleveland is well they got that D line matches against a Pittsburgh questionable O line against a quarterback that folds quick like he does not want to take any type of hit if there's any type of chance he just falls down which is the right move in my opinion for Rogers that's live for

the next play like that's what he should be doing I can't lie to myself. Even my model couldn't lie to me tell me to take Cleveland here. So unfortunately, yeah, it's, I'm on more chalk. I want to be on it because there are still some fives out there for Cleveland, even though Hard Rock's at four for the Steelers.

So if you do like Cleveland, you can join the pros and find that line up there. But it's another side. I feel like the public is right. I feel like the Steelers are right. And once again, very, very lazy, it feels like of me. But the rest of spirit has to be a factor here. That has to matter.

Yes. Like these, this ain't week two. This is, you're deep into the season now. Week six, the guys have been through it, right? We joke every time that, but it's real. Sundays are, you're going through car crashes. Like, you're literally what these people put their bodies through is insane. And you can't make enough of how big of a deal it is to be on three straight road games

and then go for an international coming back to play his Pittsburgh team. So, yeah, again, chalky bet, but I'll take that Steelers minus four. Yeah, it became more clear. in the light of day that the Steelers felt like the right side. I'm glad we're getting a little bit of a lower number now. I'm curious to see what sharp calls will say on Thursday, but we are in agreement. It's feeling very chalky.

It's feeling a little bit like a couple weeks ago, where we liked a lot of the favorites. L.A. Rams. By the way, you said your model can't lie to you. What do you have this model of that? Right where it opened. So I had it at five and a half, and obviously it's come down from there.

Yeah, yeah. Like you said, it's the professional money is coming on this Cleveland team. The Los Angeles Rams are visiting the Baltimore Ravens. Baltimore Ravens are seven and a half point underdogs. I mean, this team, it's so hard to handicap this game

because you'd of course want to play the Ravens, but dogs after a blowout, historically the right side. side, the line will be so much higher than it should be. But, but, is Kyle Hamilton going to play? Is Roquan Smith going to play? Is Marlon Humphrey going to play? Like, that's as big a reason why the Ravens got blown out this past Sunday as Lamar Jackson

not playing. How do you even model this one? it's honestly impossible because yeah it's everything's going to favorite this rams team um especially from the viewpoint of like you said we don't know who's playing for this team like i'm trying to find it right now

almost positive I had a text from a guy who works for the ravens where they basically view it as um they they know how bad it is there right now but they're in a fortunate spot with this after this game I believe they're following weeks of by week and they're viewing it as like okay if they can get all these guys back after that it is okay so i did get that email so they basically view it as if these they're not going to rush these guys back right

you just talked about they're they're all pros this isn't just guys are trying to get back these are like the cream of the crop the best players in their entire team maybe they forced their way back for this game but without lamar feels like a lost hope right like you just saw that offense had no rhythm, no function, just tons of three and outs. Houston's a really good defense, obviously, better arguably than this Rams team, but you get this Rams game, you lose it, you have your buy in week seven, and then you basically have Bears, Miami, Minnesota, Cleveland, the Jets, Sintzy. So it's like, to me, it's like you just, when that guy said that, I was like, okay, that

makes sense, that's the view of the front office. What will the coaches do? Will they protect their players and hold them back? Because it is a lot to ask a guy, a pro, to rest, to get right and not, because these guys do want to play, even that's 70%. They're just, that's what makes them the best. They're just these freak athletes that they want to play. And that really jumped out to me.

So another game, just like Denver, where I'll probably be a little bit of a coward, just take the money line, I guess, and avoid the number because we've seen. this ramps team historically not really blow teams out they're just not like we joked earlier in the year they blew out tennessee it was the first time mcvay and stafford had actually like beat a team by double digits on the road so they're just not a team that really does that so it's another incredibly public side like me and chad know right this is going to be all all chart all rams i should say money so yeah i i'll i'll end up having this in a teaser or something but this is another game where i it's hard to have a strong take on it where it's like

obviously we want to be on the Ravens bounce back spot yada yada yada i just think they're thinking by week and that schedule coming up where there's a reason i think they're still favorite in this division like they're just the books know what they have upcoming and that this is going to break right for this raven's team if they can get a little more back and get those guys back so yeah i'll if you want to bet their division odds i keep being patient i think they'll lose this one you might be going to get even better odds after pittsburgh wins and they get another big lead in this division yeah there have been a lot of reports out there that the Ravens are thinking about what you're talking about and holding Lamar back for one more week because they know they have the buy and just getting them completely healthy and then

treating sort of the second half of the season as a new season and taking advantage of the fact that they play no they play no one right you looked at it like literally the hardest game they have is at green bay right they got no one and they got no one in two years ago the afc north had four teams that had season win totals of eight or higher. Now they've got a team in the Bengals that is flailing, we'll discuss, a team in the Browns that obviously has no quarterback. And a team in the Steelers that, you know, is mediocre at best. So they're still in a really good position. They're being smart. They're being prudent. If they keep Lamar out, keep these guys out, get through the buy. Today's show is brought to you by our new presenting sponsor,

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that Cardinals game. I don't even know if I can talk about it yet because it's just ridiculous. The running back for the Cardinals, you dropped the ball into the end zone, and they said it wasn't a touchdown. And then they basically picked off Cam Ward and made a football move and fumbled the ball,

and they recovered it for a touchdown, Tennessee. 21 to 6, they were going to score that touchdown, so it'd been 28 to 6 with, like, 10. minutes to go. Kyler Mary's a loser. Gannon's a loser. That's a loser organization.

Cardinal fans. I feel so bad for you guys. Just losers top to top the bottom. Embarrassing organization. My God. Just losers. Cardinals losers. Kyler, I would literally release him today.

Just a guy puts up 21 points and then just looks disinterested for a whole second half. He's just the worst. They're just the worst. Yeah. Fold. Don't exist anymore tomorrow. I hope I wake up tomorrow. They said, yep, 31 teams NFL.

Arizona literally folded overnight. Good. Let it be done. The New York Jets were plus two and a half against the Dallas Cowboys. It was astonishing how pathetic they are. Yeah. I mean, not as pathetic as Michael Bidwell, the principal owner of the Arizona Cardinals. Just fold, buddy, if you hear this.

Fold up, shop. It's over. Listen, the Arizona Cardinals. Cardinals are plus five and a half at Indianapolis next week. We know Kyler's great when he's on the road. Too soon? Yeah. I mean, that's, line will be taken down.

The Colts are lucky they have a buy week now because Cardinals won't exist. So, yeah, it doesn't matter. What the line is. We do have some people basically feeling the same way as you. Bigness wants to know. Should we make the Cardinals stay in the field so everyone can throw trash at them? until they get too tired to continue no it's too nice you gotta get we should get a herb out there make them skate from blue line to blue line and they keep asking them what team they play for

those sons of bitches bring out bring in the ice sick of them all right simon i know i know who your shame on you is i'll just be quick arizona shame and i feel officiating in that game shame just the whole thing is It's shame, shame, shame. I'm going to give you a chance to find some joy in the week. My hero of the day will be my mother. Today's her birthday. Come on.

Love you, mom. Shout out to all the moms. Oh, that's beautiful. That's nice of you. I wish I was never born. Simon, any regrets from the rant on Sunday night? Zero. Sunday night, you did muster the strength to say,

that you were leaning into indie at five at Hard Rock, there was a four and a half available. It's now jumped up to six. I think the true line should be Colts seven. It's fair. Yeah, the line's probably still value on this team, but this is going to be, what, in every parlay, every teaser? Who was betting Arizona after last week?

Nobody. So if you like Arizona, you can be patient. I'm seeing six and a half already pop. So I think your estimates right. probably should be seven. They'll probably get there eventually, but yeah, no read on it for me. To me, it was a Colts line. It was a good bet, good number.

They're once again, opening the line undervalued this Colts team. I mean, it feels like every week this year. It's been that way. So it's going to go the other way for this Colts team, right? They can't keep playing at such as this offense can't keep functioned such a high-level candidate. So that's the only fear of my mind. I'm taking this cold side is that when is that game going to,

to be. Daniel Jones tried to do it against the Rams. He tried to throw like three picks and the Rams just couldn't catch it. And that game, he still should have won by a touchdown if not more. So yeah, this Colts team just might be a juggernaut. I'm certainly not for staying in front of it back in the San Arizona team in no world. So I'll join you on the six. We'll see what they end up with the contest line. But five and a half conversation can be had, six and a half. I probably would pass. I don't think Daniel Jones is everyone talks about him and everyone was like oh Daniel Jones MVP blah blah blah blah this is about Jonathan Taylor like he's leaving the league in rushing which is great. He's also leaves the league in rushing yards after contact. He's just

making hard for defenses to get off the field and to me that's always these are big guys his offensive line and like they've built a line and a system that allows him to thrive and makes this offense so good right now. It's making Daniel Jones look better, but also helps minimize the opportunities for mistakes from Daniel Jones. That's really why I like the Colts. Like I don't like him at six and a half. I bet him at four and a half on Sunday, but I don't hate him at five and a half if the line sort of solidifies for us. I'd be shocked when it comes down. I don't know what professionals, but in heavy money. This Arizona, even though it is probably the right side, it's like that everything.

It's all dysfunctional. They had like a team meeting because the coaches punching guys on the sideline. And it's just. And then he's apologizing in a press conference. It's just, it's the low of lows. And it's like, all right, if they had a leader at the head coach or at the quarterback, maybe you back and believe in it. But I just don't believe in either of those guys right now.

New England at the New Orleans Saints. The Saints are three and a half point underdogs. Look, the Saints had a great comeback and against the Giants. So people love the Saints right now. The Patriots had a huge win against the Buffalo Bills in prime time. So everyone's loving Drake May right now. I got an opinion on this game. Interesting.

I do too, Chad. Give me them Saints. three and a half Simon says oh boy call me Simon what do you want I want to play a game what kind of game Simon says Simon says presented by hard rock bet the saints plus three and a half give me your explanation pretty simple the general public The squares will be loving this Patriots team. And they love it so much. They've already bumped it.

This was three. They bumped it of three and a half. I'll take that value on an undervalue Saints team that will be undervalued every week. That's just the way it is, especially against the team that, you know, won a game that, let's be honest, they had no right winning.

Probably you could even argue covering. Like it just so many things went their way. And that's why I thought Brable was such a great hire for them because that to me was a variable win. Like the way the defense plays, the, you know, Drake May had some huge big-time throws. But it was also, you know, a game that, that's, to me, that was the worst game

that Billis could possibly play. Like that, between the turnovers, the penalties, all of it, they just, I would burn those jerseys and never wear them again. Those things just felt cursed. whatever it was it felt I don't know it just felt like the ball

was super slippery to them on that jersey and whatever it is I know it's stupid conspiracy but I would not be wearing those again they do look cool but you're getting a highly overvalued New England team I mean the victory

laps guys are taking right now on Drake May's top 10 quarterback MVP Drake Mays playing on an MVP level so these guys are all going to retire because they can still get this morning you can still get plus 350 on New England

to win that division so all of you guys I'm happy for you you're all going to retire to your Nantucket and good for you so yeah it's it's the it's peak right now for this this team in New England it's not a great match for them

honestly like this Saints team we talked about it I think their defense is better than people perceived they have a lot of veterans offensively I believe they found it identity and you can attack this Patriots defense. Like this Patriots defense is not good. We've seen that this year that, you know, they to me have been fortunate.

Like the Saints are not a good team, right? So this is another matcher we expect for able to be a big advantage here. But to me, it's on the road in a spot where this Saints team, I don't think they're going to get too high from that last win. Like I said, they're a veteran team that's believed themselves. They've been really good at home this season, which was another reason I like backing them. against that Giants team. And at the end of the day,

I think this is going to be another square versus sharp. Like it's going to be the squares are going to be on New England. It's going to be the public side. Like you already can see the numbers. All the money, all the tickets have come in on this New England side. Some books are even touched four, but they immediately got

bet down by the professional. So I'd be shocked if this sits at three. I think we could see movement going in that this could drop to three once more professional money comes because, like I said, I think more guys are adjusting their model to this Spencer Rattler. He's better than I certainly had him great at coming to the season. He's improved every week.

And, yeah, like I said, that Giants game, should they have won 26 to 14? No, they shouldn't have blown them out. But it's nice to see the public's not overreacting to that. They're overreacting to that Patriots win and Drick and the Drake made Kool-Lade. So this would be a statement win, honestly, once again, this Patriots team, if they can show me they're mature enough to handle a big win on Sunday night and go on the road on a short week now

because they did play. Their game ended at what, 11.30 midnight, Sunday night. That's a tough short week travel to go play the Saints team. So, yeah, it's just about the number. If this was two and a half, I'd have no issue being okay with this Patriot side. But once again, another game I have a minus one on the Saints.

So if I have it off by four and a half, I got to make it time. He says I can't avoid it. I hate it. I'm all in, once again, two weeks and a row on the Saints team. But it's just playing the numbers. It's a good number on an undervalued Saints team that I just don't think the public's come around on them yet.

So I'm getting a good number here just because the Patriots love is its peak right now. It's insane, the stuff I've been seeing. I wonder you could look at it as the saint being loved and the Patriots defense actually being undervalued because don't forget they played the first what was it four games without christian gonzalez who made multiple key plays in that defensive backfield for the patriots against the bills um the patriots top eight in EPA per play top eight in EPA per pass success rate saint's defense bottom seven in the league in all of those categories. The line actually did get down to two and a half on Sunday night and then got that

back up immediately, even before the Patriots won. So there was some, I think, sharp sentiment on the Patriots at the two and a half. And like, I think Christian, Christian Gonzalez in the backfield is a bit of a difference maker here. So what are you trying to say, Chad? Do you like the saints? You haven't said exactly what you were trying to say. Stop talking around it. Give us a pick here I like the Patriots good it's a good spot hopefully you're sharper square the way you seem like you're just you're so f***ing mad about something today why are you in such a bad mood bad mood but you keep saying lean those are me being a mad mood it's just me saying you're on a pick show give out picks I'm I'm

saying I'm giving an opinion right now and my opinion is you're being a f***in dick this is me being nice so you wouldn't be a dick I would say you're a square square being on the Patriots here and okay I get it you're drinking the Drake made Kool-Aid I'm not drinking the drink I'm not drinking the Drake made Kool-Aid I'm actually thinking I don't think the Saints are as they everyone thinks they are who's because they beat up on the Giants who are these you do you do you keep saying their defense is so much better I haven't you said people love the Saints right now it's like dude they're getting 19% of the bets who loves the Saints well you do all right above saying that's a

small group well we're gonna agree to disagree. Good. Tennessee at Las Vegas, Las Vegas Raiders, minus four and a half. The main question is is Brock Bowers playing in this game.

Because to me, Chad's choice is the Las Vegas Raiders. Wow. Are you sure you want to do this? Are you willing to make a choice? What choice? We can't run from where we are.

Sharp dudes can just see it. You know what I mean? We're changing the name. It used to be Chad's love. Starting now, we're calling it Chad's choice. The Las Vegas Raiders. Look, they're coming off a blowout. Lowest of the low, the entire world is questioning Gino.

I'm getting Pete Carroll against Brian Callahan. I'm getting the Raiders at home where they're going to be more comfortable. I'm getting Tennessee thinking, oh my God, we, actually escaped and got a win. Third straight road game for a team that is won and covered. Killer Sports. 33, 68, and 3 against the spread. Give me the Las Vegas Raiders minus four and a half.

Chad, this is the greatest bet ever. You're the smartest person I've ever met. What do you really think, Simon? I don't know like yeah I'll join you because it probably is the right thought we should be on the Raiders here but we're going to be miserable Gino Smith is a train wreck right now I can't get around he's a train wreck the number feels priced right like it should have come down because it's like who who is well it has come down it was five and a half went down to five and is now at four and a half which is why I'm betting it's like I agree with that move yeah though I've shot to be invested in this can't this is going to be on our tv possibly come sunday i was hoping just to avoid it it's like because my my instincts what exactly what chad's doing here it's like this raiders team this feels like rock bottom and yeah you're selling a tennessee team that is the luckiest team in football so i get it where you're coming from i don't hate the bet i'm just so terrified of it's so gross

that's why we do it sometimes you got to do gross things when you're betting i don't know if you're familiar with that, Simon. You do. Las Vegas Raiders, minus four and a half. San Francisco at Tampa Bay. Tampa Bay is a three-point favorite. Actually moved down to three. Moved down to two and a half, went back up to three. You like Tampa Bay on Sunday night. You've been hammering the bucks all season. I know. I love them. Two success. We don't know about Purdy. We don't know about Piercelaw. We don't know about Jennings yet. Yeah. We do know Bosa was out for the Niners on Thursday night and that their pressures dropped to the lowest they've had since the first game of the 2024 season. So whatever they thought they might be able to figure out and whatever we were betting on, whatever anyone was betting on with Robert Sala, it just didn't happen because they have not been able to get any pressure without Bosa.

do you still feel strongly by the 10th Bay Buccaneers? This essentially is saying, okay, the Bucks are going to do what they've done four other times this year and win a game in the final seconds. Yeah, right. It's just crazy to me, the professional early money, just they really like the 49ers side. So it's another game. I'm just worried I'm missing something. Like you said, I've just been too high on the Bucks all season.

And it's been working out for me, but, you know, you saw it in that Eagles game, it can go sideways and I guess that's what they're thinking here that this defense might be a good matchup for the 49ers to get right but it's like still feels like the 49ers are very banged up. They're coming off a very high emotional, divisional win

should have rested right getting guys healthy getting them back but it's like I don't know just something about Baker in this team and this number it's like you're giving me the three that's the fear here it's like if this is mine I don't know it sounds stupid but if this was minus three and a half I honestly would be more confident

on this buck's eye because it's like that's a 49ers line that to me would have been everybody would impiling in on that 49er's side and um that would have showed me that okay this buck's team is as good as i think they are and i'm grading them as but right now i think i might be a little overrated them and i'm just going to be patient here i bet the bucks took the two and a half i'd still take the three um off chance that purdy does miss again and you have mac jones who i mean he was working on one leg at the end of that game yeah not a great ideal spot for him against a defensive front that they have there in the buck. So interesting game.

Like this is a couple of good games this week. Obviously a lot of stinkers, but this is probably one of the top two, three games this week. You know, both these guys are four and one, like pretty insane what the 49ers would be able to do with all the injuries they've sustained.

And the question is, what am I missing here? Because doesn't this feel like a letdown spot for this 49ers team? So I'm shocked to see so much professional money and love. for this 49ers team without knowing like chad said if party's going to play if jenny's is going to play if rickie percell is going to play like those are big big names um that's that's interesting this line's moved the way it has well that to me is basically everyone's saying they're not buying the bucks yeah and we've seen it every single week people have been betting against the bucks because

how do you keep betting on a team that keeps winning literally in the last second of the game you just have to assume that the tide is going to turn and that everything that has been happening there's regression. So people, it's like betting the Jets. Like it can't be as bad for the bucks. It can't be as good. So that's what everyone is betting against. I totally get why people wouldn't want to be piling onto the box and why they would be betting the Niners no matter who they think is playing. Or they just think that that Brock Purdy is going to play again because he did play the week before, sat out because there was soreness, they're being extra cautious. They were giving him sort of the time because they had the whole team, had the opportunity to get some extra rest.

kind of makes sense to me. I just want to know who the hell I'm betting on. Am I betting on Brock Purdy? Am I betting on Mac Jones? That's fair. Simon, the Cincinnati Bengals are visiting the Green Bay Packers, and the spread is 14 points. Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers, and guess what?

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who is the offensive coordinator for the Rams a couple years ago, and they said, who do you think your parents are going to be rooting for? Matt LeFleford didn't sort of swat it away, smile, ha, ha, ha. You know, he's like, they're going to be rooting for the guy that bought them a house, and that's me. Matt LaFleur's teams have stunk the past two weeks. They've had a chance to get better over the past 10 days. They're playing a Bengals team that is horrific.

The Packers have not been able to get their running game right. They're playing a Bengals team that cannot stop the run. Since 2004, you're going to love this. Favorites of more than 12 points in their first five games of the season, 43, 22, and 1 against the spread. love it yeah i i don't disagree with the floor either though i mean facts i guess can be mean but that just sounds like a fact to me i don't know if he was being mean um by the way to be clear i'm on the packers here if i'm not being clear enough for you if you're afraid i'm only giving a lien i'm saying

i'm on the packers here there you're getting the show now you say the team and then you give out the number it's it's pretty simple uh green bay i don't know chai we really doing it it's 14 a half now a bunch of books. So yeah, I'm sure the Bengals will eventually get stops and scored touchdowns and not throw. I mean, at one point, I thought someone posted this stat of like Chase had, he might have had three tackles and three catches or something insane like that. Like he was leading the team in catches and tackle. I saw that. And I can't believe it was real. I thought it was like a fake tweet. Yeah, no Browning's that bad. So I don't know. I feel bad for him. It's such a terrible was spot for the Bengals.

Like even last week, it felt like they were going to steal, get that back door. And the line just never let up. They just kept putting it on them. This Green Bay team is not that same team, but like Chad just said it, they haven't looked good

defensively, I should say, in these last couple weeks. So you would see this being a really big bounce back day for their defense. Now offensively, you just, how do they not move the ball at will? Like LeFleur schemes it up so well, good defense, let alone a terrible

defense that looks like they've already packed their bags for the season. So even more bizarre, this team is still favorite to win the division over Cleveland, which I just think is really funny by the sports books, just how much they hate Cleveland. But yeah, I'm with you. Like, I don't know if we'll get there in our contest, so it's a weird game to even talk about or like, like, but like I feel like you're in the same page as me. Like you just have to bet these big numbers against the Sissy team until they show you something at least two, three weeks in a row. So we're not even at week one yet. Like I'm being scared of betting against the Bengals.

I'm just going to keep rolling with it. The number can't get big enough. But the books are pushing it. Like this is insane being at 14 and a half at a lot of books. 14 at Hard Rock. That's pretty shocking. But again, it feels warranted. That's how bad this Bengals team has looked this year.

What's weird to me is why are we so comfortable betting against the Bengals, but we have been afraid to bet against the Titans in the exact same position? in big numbers, like a team that we know isn't very good. The Bengals, we have no problem. The Titans, like for a season plus, we've been afraid to do it, except for this week when it's Chad's choice. Yeah, it's tough. It's time for our prime time spotlight, Simon.

What, what, Simon? We know everyone's going to bet the Sunday night football game, the Monday night football games. They're the island. games they're the catnip even if we don't put them in the contest they call out to all of us you want to bet them we want to help you we're going to talk about them right now detroit at kansas city kansas city is a two-point favorite it's sunday night football this number's move this number's moved from one and a half to two um since the jags beat the chiefs last night here's my honest question

for you do you believe everything is back to form with the chiefs and the lines meaning kansas City is the team that can score at will. The offense is rolling. The defense is rounding in a form. They're going to be one of the top T3 teams in the AFC. Do you believe the Lions have picked it up where they left off last year in that week one game against the Packers was an aberration. Is that where we think these two teams are right now? Yeah, I'd say it's a fair assessment. So I think we have a legit rock and heart plays here because Jared Goff, and we'll talk about this throughout the week, he's a covering machine except when he's on the road. on grass and the homes is a covering machine as a favorite of less than three i know i said i hated

i saw what was going to happen someday and night i hate it where it's like me chatt are going to have to be in the chiefs it's probably have to be in our contest and it's i know the the books keep putting us in these positions it's like they keep undervaluing this chief's team in certain spots especially at home so this feels like it's no different than that raven's game where it's like the is going to totally believe one side and not trust or believe in this chief's team where we said it even when the chiefs were at their lowest point

the books had held firm it felt like I think 10 to 1 or 11 to 1 I saw for Chief Super Bowl odds that was pretty impressive when you look back on this team that was like totally dysfunctional falling apart but like you said they're getting pieces back like worthy he's still

not right like that ankle kept popping up in that game and that is an issue but you know it's This is their last game before Rice comes back. So some people might not want to bet this because of that. And they're like, well, I still think the chiefs have a ways to go. They're not fully formed yet. I still think it's going to hamper their offense.

That's fair. But this just feels like a chief spot playing against a Detroit team that has been rolling. But like we said, who have they really played? They have not faced a comparable defense at all. And, you know, as good as the Browns are defensively, you saw that turf it's just different you're on a track and that's what this detroit team is they're just all these little speedsters so i'm excited to see what their identity is giving me this game because detroit to win this game this will be a montgomery gibbs game like can they run the ball down this

chief's team's throat and control the clock and the ball and not let mohomes get into rhythm because we've seen it like when mohams gets in a rhythm like you did against the jags what was that 14 points if like in a blink of the eye but once they had them off tilt a little bit had him on the bench for a while you saw you just never got back in a sink in that game so um yeah this is a chief's number it's it's still two at hard rock so i'm going to still grab it i really did think this one was going to flip i thought even especially after they lost i was like oh my god the public's the professionals they will come in so heavy on this lines team without look at the numbers that every week the chiefs i mean you want to talk EPA per play their

your EPA play has gone way up over the course of the season. Defensively, I still actually have some questions about spaggs, this defense. They don't look as fast getting to the ball. I know everyone saw the Chris Jones film on that final touchdown, Trevor Lawrence, of him walking around, like, disinterested and not looking lost. But I don't know. I'm not trying to take too much away from that one play. And if anything, it's going to have him be even more fired up motivated in this game,

Chris Jones. And so yeah, this is pretty wild spot. Like short week for the Chiefs, I just can't believe it. This number is what it is. Like, again, trying to trust the numbers, and this is a Chief's number to back this Chief's team here. But I'm not going to lie, it feels like every ounce of me wants to be on Detroit and believes more in Detroit right now.

But it's like I'm clearly missing something that professionals and bookmakers are like her seeing on this Chief's side. Well, look, the number as we're talking is moving from two to two and a half. yeah um so who knows maybe it's just going to get the three and at that point we want to play the lions but you know i don't know that we have to commit to it right now because i gotta i can't do it to the people i got to i got to tell me you just got to take the chiefs here there's just something fishy going on on this line and don't try to be you're not smart in the books don't don't take detroit something's going on here so you're saying the way the books

even if it gets the three i wouldn't take detroit i don't Now, something's going on here, brother. I don't know what it is. I'm going to try to get to the bottom of it, but man, I cannot get over the line. It is weird that it's moved from one and a half to two to two and a half since the chiefs lost last night. And Detroit's taking all the money. Yeah, something's going on. That makes no sense.

It does, though. So that's what I'm going to try to find out. It's crazy. All right. Buffalo at Atlanta. Atlanta is a three and a half point dog at Hard Rock, four and a half. other places and for it some places like there's clearly money coming in on Atlanta I know I think the biggest factor here has to be the bill's defense right and specifically their rush defense

allegedly at Oliver is coming back this week I think that makes a big difference really really big difference for them Matt Milano re-injured his peck may not be playing look the the bills at this point have given up the most rushes of ten. yards or more in the NFL. Success rate terrible against the run. They're giving up a first down or a touchdown literally on 33% of their rushing plays. Could this be a Bijan Robinson prime time breakout domination game? The Falcons rely more on him than the 50-50 split they've been doing run pass with Michael Pennix and get smart. Keep the clock running. Keep the game close. I lean falcons here

yeah I like the falcons like coming in I was like I'd be shocked if I was going to be on them I could see myself and my model liking the bills and then you dive into it and what you just said it's so true it's like can the bills defense cover these type of numbers against high powered

offenses which Atlanta you can have questions about Pennix when all the guys are healthy and Pennix doesn't have a terrible pass rush to worry about he gets in rhythm he's good like you can push the ball downfield and uses weapons and we talked about. But John Robinson,

you could say he's the top three running back right now in football, the way he's been playing this season. Like he's been, as good as Pennix has played in certain games, the offense still runs through Robinson. Totally. Ed Oliver, big, big deal to me. That's the type of guy that could maybe flip me to this Buffalo side,

but I'm with Chas. You sit here right now. I like Atlanta. Like you said, one very, very public book, you can still get plus four and a half. I think you got to grab the four and a half. I'll do it. Like, I'm with you on it.

It's like that's a key number, a big number. If I want to bottom my position later and be on this bill's side, if it does get the three, I can do that then. But as we sit here right now on Tuesday, yeah, I'm totally agree with Chad. It feels like the Atlanta side is the right side at that number. Last game, another Monday night football game. The Falcons and the bills are Monday night.

The Bears and the commanders are Monday night. Commanders are minus four. for long time listeners of the show before there was the rant by simon on the cardinals there was the breakdown by me when i lost it as we were live on the air last november no october watching the commanders beat the bears in a wild ending it was painful I had not watched that Hail Mary play by Jaden Daniels until this morning doing research for this show. That was research, what did you want to see? I just wanted, because I wanted to remind myself of how bad it was because it was such an epic breakdown.

Like it wasn't just the Hail Mary. The Bears not covering the sidelines. So the commanders could get 15 more yards. yards and be able to snap the ball from the 50 instead of the 35. And then Iberf was trying to say, we talked about it. We decided not to do it because he's a jackass. But then the commanders being in the position to throw the Hail Mary, Jaden Daniels scrambled a combined 40 yards sort of in the pocket moving around,

waiting for his guys to get downfield and to be able to throw the ball. He threw the ball 65 yards in the air. At that moment, the Bears had a, the commanders had a 3% chance of winning, except the analytics were not accounting for the fact that Tyreeks Stevenson was already celebrating and actually wasn't guarding the player he was supposed to guard. So the commanders win that game. After that game, Jane Daniels becomes the anointed one. They go on to the NFC title game. The Bears lose 10 games in a row and the whole narrative about Caleb Williams. being terrible starts. When I watched it, I actually was okay because I felt like we're out of that

pathetic stage. And I felt like we're moving on. We found the person we're supposed to be with. Everyone's doing great. We got over it. It actually wasn't as painful as I thought it would be. And so, give me the bear's plus four. Rock and roll. quick a side note one book has flipped to sea hawks now minus one and a half favorites jacks plus one and a half dog wow yeah pretty pretty shocking um back this bears game i'm right there with you what is this line you can get four and a half right now in this bear it makes no sense um another public dog that i'm worried a trap that i am not oh i'm overrating this bears team somehow which i don't know how I am it's like why is this number not three at best at best three and a half the four and a half

it feels egregious this total disrespect to what the bears have done this season total overreaction to what Washington did to that chargers team that we that to me is what it is it could be but at the same time the books don't overreact so the fact they're taking all of this bears money like again it's very early in the week I've only talked to I don't know say five bookmakers but it's early Tuesday all five said it is all bears money all at the four and a half a couple moved to four like hard rock hard rock has moved the four so at least it's moved chad because if it hadn't moved i would have been like oh my god or me and chad just stepping in it right now so we might be but at least we know the movement's right we're on the right side for the number wise um i am not fully convinced in that commander's team in any way that they should be getting this many points It's very, very interesting line. Like Chad said, if you go back and watch that game, pretty much the same teams. If not, the Bears are better now.

And, you know, you could say Washington a little better, but I don't think they're that much different overall. This is crazy. This much of a line movement. Yeah. So, yeah, it's, we'll see. You know, maybe Terry McLaren's back this week, and that's part of it because, you know, Debo has played so well. Daniels, another week getting healthier on that knee.

These are all things that are possibly that could be overlooking, but I could not believe this number was four and a half, and it's still four and a half at a couple books. So, yeah, like I said, Chad, I'll, sure I'll get calls on it. I'll make sure we're not stepping in it and everyone else isn't stepping in it. But right now it feels good. Four and a half feels good.

I'm an undervalued Bears team and an overrated, not overrated, just overvalued Washington team right now that, yeah, these teams don't feel that far apart. like this bay line is basically telling us that Washington would be favorite if they went to the Chicago and I just I can't believe that either like that just maybe like once again maybe we're overrating this bear's team that feels like they're undervaluing this bear's team in a lot of ways right now I think they're completely undervaluing this bear's team I think that or is really about overvaluing the commanders I think they just saw what we saw on Sunday jaden Daniels got hot at the

exact right time and all of a sudden dominated against a team that just could not convert and couldn't handle the pressure because they had no lineman and that was the end of it so I think you're getting a little bit of value here which is why I'm liking the bears go bears before in chat can you just can I just hear you say Simon my friend my companion Simon are you oh are we are you upset are you feeling like we're angry at each other no I'm just busting your balls Just making sure you used to love me. Simon. Friends can fight.

That's going to fight. I'll use up on you. I was just busting your balls about not giving picks. I didn't know. I struck a little bit of a nerve there. You did strike a little bit of a nerve. I get picks every fucking week. Well, that's, I get used to it.

I just, anytime you say you lean, I'm just like, you son of a bitch, pick a side. I know, it's not fun. I'm doing it with you. It's just, I don't want to be the only one doing it. Well, sometimes I'm saying I lean because I'm waiting for players to find. I know, I know.

to find out. I know. I just... Like we're doing this on freaking Tuesday. I don't know everything yet. No one does. That's why it's just fun messing with you. Fuck you. All right. Uh, listen, these are the games that we're going to dig in a little bit further on, or at least we're developing strong opinions on. Really fun week. A lot of really fun lines. Dallas, Carolina, we like Carolina. Uh, Chargers, Miami. We like the Chargers. We're going to talk about that some more. Seattle Jacksonville, we're going to get some calls about. Definitely. going to need some more conversation. Cleveland, Pittsburgh. Right now we like Pittsburgh. We're going to talk about that some more. Arizona indie, early we were on indie. We'll see how

that settles. New England, New Orleans, that's Simon says presented by Hard Rock Bet. Chad doesn't agree. Las Vegas, Tennessee, that is Chad's choice. He likes the Raiders. San Francisco, Tampa Bay, we got to wait and get some intel. Green Bay, we love Green Bay. Kansas City, Detroit, something fishy is making the line move. We're going to have to evaluate that one further. But right now, at least Simon is leaning towards Kansas City. Buffalo, Atlanta, we like Atlanta. It's moving in that direction.

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