The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Sharp or Square - NFL Week 8 Recap and Early Week 9 Bets - Cowboys-Broncos, Jets-Bengals, Giants-Eagles, Niners-Texans and more

Episode Date: October 27, 2025

Chad Millman and Simon Hunter dive into their betting results from NFL Week 8, checking in on the gambling action after a tremendous Sunday of NFL action. Plus, we get all their early NFL Week 9 picks, predictions, best bets and leans. Games recapped today include Dak Prescott's Dallas Cowboys at Bo Nix and the Denver Broncos, the Carolina Panthers getting crushed by Josh Allen and the Buffalo Bills, a win for the New York Jets over Joe Flacco and the Cincinnati Bengals, Drake Maye and the New England Patriots cruising over the Cleveland Browns and a huge victory over the Tennessee Titans for the Indianapolis Colts. #Volume 0:03:00 - START 0:05:33 - BROWNS VS PATRIOTS REACTION  0:10:04 - GIANTS VS EAGLES REACTION 0:17:20 - NINERS VS TEXANS REACTION 0:24:20 - COWBOYS VS BRONCOS REACTION 0:33:16 - BEARS VS RAVENS REACTION 0:44:00 - BUCS VS SAINTS REACTION 0:46:29 - JETS VS BENGALS REACTION 0:57:00 - EARLY NFL WEEK 9 BETS -- All lines provided by Hard Rock Bet  Subscribe to Sharp or Square for gambling advice, best bets, and predictions from sports betting experts Chad Millman and Simon Hunter. Follow on all platforms:  / sharporsquare https://x.com/SharporSquare_See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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What's our brother? Well, look, we're feeling good because it was kind of a drama-free day. One score game today. Going back to Thursday night, so far, one, one score game, the New York J-E-T-S, Jets, Jets, Jets, Jets, they got in the win column, the dolphins were redeemed, the bills avoided a trap. None of those games were in our final five, Simon. However, our record on the day is three and one. We had the Texans at Plus one. We liked them up to two and a half. That's where it landed.

We had the Patriots minus six and a half. We liked them at seven. That's where it landed. We had the Giants plus seven and a half. That is a bummer. And we had the Broncos minus three and a half. No sweat. We have the Steelers at plus three and a half tonight against the Packers.

Last what's in, last game's in today. I think we're kind of the Pats and the Giants. and the last one's out, I think, were the Saints, the Jets, and I guess the Ravens. We'll talk about all of these games. We're going to get to our early leans for week nine, and we'll get to you some viewer questions and comments as well as we dig in. But let's kick it off with that New England game. Like I said, we had the Patriots minus six and a half. Here's how it came down to New England for me.

I was stretching this morning. This one was my arm rotation for my frozen shoulder. And it just occurred to me. We've been talking about the Patriots all week. And we had been bouncing around between a bunch of seven-point games. And I just thought to myself, Dylan Gabriel cannot score touchdowns in this game. He absolutely will not be able to score. I don't care about anything else.

We ended up putting them in. It was against the wise guys because this line had moved to six and a half in a lot of places. The last thing I said this morning before we made the pick, I believe the Browns are susceptible to big plays. I feel like our overall analysis on this

nailed it. I can't believe it took us so long. long to commit to it. Yeah, I would say your confidence probably wasn't this level at half. It was looking like the exact, it was frustrating. It was frustrating at half. The professional's do bet where it's like the Browns basically pulled the Patriots

into the mud, got a really fluky opening drive touchdown, and we were sweating because it's like May was just making bad plays, bad decisions, and they kept giving them opportunities, like you said, the way to attack that Brown's team is definitely through the air in the second area right they're tough to run against but they had a bunch of opportunities passing and um second half may got comfortable totally different like you saw him do what he should do is move the ball down the field and what we talked about all week gabriel is just not a starting quarterback let alone on the road in a hostile environment like that so um he looked good on that opening drive but other than that yeah that was uh that was a really good bet and yeah glad glad that

we stuck with it because it was a type of game that if it was minus seven and a half, probably would have missed it, honestly. The only reason I really loved it was because it was minus six and a half and minus seven. It's like, well, those are good numbers. Could we lay on a push? We could, of course, but no, we leaned into it. And, yeah, no doubt that were clear that better team today of the Patriots. Well, Dylan Gabriel, by the way, the first drive looked like he had been playing for 10 years.

Three for three, a hundred yards, a touchdown. And it's funny you mention halftime. So in the first half, Miles Garrett had three. sacks and a forced fumble and he had five sacks on the day and i kept looking at this game and the patriots went in at halftime up nine seven and actually wasn't that anxious i said to myself they're one touchdown away from covering this and i don't think the browns can score again the rest of the day and we have mike vrable who is so freaking good and that first drive coming out of half time Very first drive. They started the second half. Miles Garrick could not be stopped, right? So what did they do? They had a trick play that ran counter to the rush. They were rolling away from Miles Garrett. They were pitching the ball on runs that cut inside the lanes where the rushers were coming upfield. It was the perfect drive. No penalties. Seven plays, 77 yards, five runs, two passes. Can't say.

if you don't drop back. And that's exactly what they did. And then all of a sudden they could air it out. Like they had multiple plays. The next drive, I think they had another touchdown. It was two plays of 20 plus yards, including 40-yard touchdown backs to Kisham Booty, Drake May's favorite player.

So just awesome. They were awesome. I love them. I love Drake May. No, it was great, great win. Good for us. Very good. good for us. By the way, one thing I want to say, because we talk about Dylan Gabriel, after that

three for three start, I think he had like 19 total yards or something like that. It was really, yeah. It was insane. After the first drive, he was, he was, after the first drive, 19 plays 43 yards after starting six for 70 in the first half. So good for us, good for the Patriots. Football Giants. Crushing. And this is our last one in. We were sort of, we didn't know what to do. We took out the Ravens, obviously,

because of all the Lamar stuff, and we're going to get to that. We didn't buy out of it, and we actually said on the show, we're sticking with it. But we decided not to put it into the contest. Like, we decided to go with this one because of injuries to the Eagles

across the, you know, AJ Brown, plus in the secondary, plus on the defensive line and the offensive line for the Eagles. and then Camp Scadaboo. Like, it kind of took the air out for me. It felt like after that, it was a little bit of a dead bet. Yeah, honestly, I watch every second of that game.

The refs were just a terrific. Terrible. The game flipped, in my opinion, on that touch push, which... Yes. The announcer said, this isn't the end zone. This should not be... If you reach forward with a ball, and you are still... That's momentum.

You're moving forward. your hands were moving forward with the ball. It can get punched out. Like you're not down and your momentum's not stopped. So that was that game of the Saints game, the Saints had a really lucky. Like the Bucks had a touchdown on a random whistle blue. So they brought the bucks back at the defense.

Antoine Winfield ran into the end zone three different times today on three different plays, all of which the whistle blew before the play was over. Just ridiculous though. Like these same thing is the Eagles game. Like these reps need to swallow these whistles. Like, we complain all the time, but it is ridiculous. So that was absurd.

Like, just every little thing felt like it wet against the Giants. Just to set the scene, that was in the first half. The game was still very close. It was 7-7 at this point. It was 7-7. The Eagles, Sequin Barclay had that 65-yard run. And the Giants went right back down and scored. They looked fantastic.

Like Jackson Dart was slinging the ball and, like, looked really comfortable. And their defense was playing well. And they get that fumble, Kvon Tibido, on Jalen Hertz. and the rest blew the whistle and the eagle scored touchdown after that. Yeah, and then, like, there's still a bunch of opportunities, too, where the Giants were in the game.

Like, they had a long touchdown got called back, so the guy pushed off when they're clearly hand-fighting. It just, you're going to have games that just go against you like that with the reps. Like, we just couldn't get any calls our way. All the key moments went the other way. And once again, Jalen Hertz,

playing really well. Like, he just killed us in this game. Like, a couple of big throws where it's all. like he's just when he's on there it doesn't matter there's no a j brown in that type of game like when he was on he was sitting guys deep all over the field um like we talk about the run game you know seaquin gets hurt the backup comes in tanks bigs me i think he rushes for a hundred yards so yeah uh the giants just got rolled bad bet and just brutal on a day where like we've talked about we got pretty much every game right one of the games we put in like i think we both agree

you're looking back. Why do we not just put the Colts in over the Giants or whatever it may be? Those always hurt you where, you know, kind of hated the Giants and we ended up on it anyway, and we got burned. Yeah, that one was really disappointing. There was a play. The Giants were keeping it close. They were down early in the fourth. They're down 24 to 13. Eagles have a second and 31. Brian Burns had just gotten a second sack. in the game, they give up a 31-yard run. To tank Bigsby. Yeah.

For the first down. Not even Sequin. Not even Sequin. Like that was a backbreaker. And then even right after that they scored touchdown. And then even down 3113, because it's a seven and a half point spread, the back door sort of always open, right? And the Giants nearly made it close.

You're talking about that long touchdown pass from Jackson Darry. I can't remember who the receiver was. It was a great play. It was total hand fighting all the way down the field, and the refs called the pass interference OPI, called it back. That's sort of the ball game. Brian Dayball at that point was so apoplectic. And like it was so funny because he didn't know what to do,

and he just took his headphones and just shoved him on top of his head as hard as he couldn't. It looked like they were like squeezing his face. like his face was so puffy and red and angry and he's just squeezing the headphones. He was so mad. I do wonder, are the refs going to have to do so? Like, is there going to be a call from the league about these whistles?

Because it happened in a few different games. It happened in the Cowboys game, in the Cowboys Broncos game as well. So that was, and it's weird that it happened multiple times today. And everybody was noticing it. So that's going to have to be, I think that's going to be a conversation from the league this week. I still like the idea that now that New York is involved,

and we're so openly about New York making calls for the refs, give them one universal challenge every coach gets to make that they challenge a call on the field, no matter what the rule is, whatever it is, that it can be overturned, which I'm talking like fast interference, those type of plays where the Wessel blew a play dead. like it's the momentum all of it it just changes so much dramatically

I remember they tried having that challenge with the PIs a couple years ago after that Ram Saints game and it didn't work because it was the refs working in collusion to get rid of the rule because they were just so mad I think it was like a 20% overturn rate it was like dead on arrival so they got to figure out something it just if New York is going to be involved let's just get it right

Like we always say, no one would complain if we just got it right. And that's all at the end of that we want. Like it's it cleans up a lot of the game when the refs are changing the game so much. It should just one challenge a game. That's all we ask. We can challenge one call on the field. I don't know why you limit it to a challenge. I think they should expand the rule of what can be overturned by the officials.

And they've already figured out. The whistle killing the play. Like I think that's what to say. A whistle killing a play is just brutal. That's what I mean. So the whistle shouldn't be if, well, there were also a couple times where there was no whistle blown that anyone could hear. Like they were running, they were running the plays back in real speed without any other audio. And there were no whistles.

And they're calling the play was dead off of a whistle. So why do they have to have a universal one-time challenge? on plays where the whistle shouldn't be blown, where forward progress isn't stopped, where the officials can then overturn it in the same way they can do with a turnover. So that's what I'm saying, is like, if there's a question,

let that be a challengeable play or let that be something that has reviewed and instant review from New York. That's what I think they should do. San Francisco at Houston, Simon says, look, we loved it all week, and we were not sort of, sort of dissuaded by Houston flipping and flopping a little bit from one point dog to one point

favorite, then getting up to two and a half. We sat on the show this morning, we liked it up to two and a half, really up to three. But boy, man, for a game, they completely and totally dominated from the get-go. They made every effort to let the Niners sneak in the backdoor on this one. Yeah. I mean, we joke. It's,

it's always scary when a team, you know, in the first half has 300 yards, has the ball for, what was, they say,

30 minutes or something insane. And they give up that late touchdown, insane throw by Mac Jones, insane little window to kill. Again, I know you're not the biggest

Mac Jones fans. I can't get over some of the throws that kid makes, where it's like, he is getting pumpled in that game. didn't hit every play. And like you said, we were never out of it. Like he kept us, he made that we

had to watch that game into the fourth quarter, which is just ridiculous. Me and you should have been able to turn that game off at half because Houston dominated that much. But yeah, there's just, there's something up with Houston, them just not finishing the red zone. And, you know, it's, it's hard to get mad at a quarterback that's number one, number two receiver, or out of the game. Like he's throwing to, yeah, the kid Higgins, who's a rookie. And, you know, it's just, not ideal. Braxton Berrios. Yes.

Yeah. So it's like, and it worked. Like we said, though, if he doesn't have pressure in his face, all the injuries the 49ers have had, they're just, their defense is a shell. It's like they don't get you so much. So amazing spot, unique spot for Houston. And yeah, like, you know, Tuesday when we talked about it, I gave it on the basis of this is going to be a pro team, a pro spot, the public will be able over the 49ers.

And as the week. along you saw the number kept moving like you said it open as a dog closed minus two minus two and a half so those are those are the nice nice times to be a pro because it's like it feels like you're the smartest guy in the room because like again everyone I knew was like trying to tell me how good this matchup was for their 49 hours and it's just like this texans team they're now with their record shows and we saw that in the game so uh the colts had pretty much ended their texas season I guess divisionally but texans still have a chance got that wild card it's not They're not going to give up.

They're a good defensive team. They got weapons. So big, big win for them, 2615. They needed that type of win. The Bears and the Texans, and we're going to get to the Bears and the Ravens in a minute, but had similar first quarters as I was making my notes. The Texans dominated, completely dominated. They had just in the first quarter, they had 138 yards to the Niners 19, 233 plays to the

Niners four, six first downs to the Niners zero. And they had the ball for 13 minutes and 19 seconds of the 15 minutes in the first quarter. And they were only up six nothing. Yeah. And at least like they did continue to dominate. They got up 13 nothing. They got up 16 nothing. And then they had sort of a catastrophic final 51 seconds.

they let Brian Robinson run the ball back, a kickoff after they went up 16-0-0. They let them run it back to about the 50, and they had a face mask, and then Mack Jones got the first, first down of the first half for the Niners, and then all of a sudden they're in the end zone. It's 16-7.

They were getting the ball back to start the second half. Because the Texas defense is so good this year, they were to stop them, and then they were able to actually score to go up 23-7, But man, like, it was the lack of pressure that allowed the Texans to continue to drive the ball down the field. We talked about it. You just mentioned it to put a stat against it.

They only pressured the quarterback on 19% of his 40 plus dropbacks today. That was to us the key to the game and why we were betting it. We just didn't think the Niners, as much as we love Sala, didn't have the horses to really get to the quarterback. back and make a difference for them. But wow, like the thing that I want to know, I want your take on this. C.J. Stroud had 300 yards passing. His issue, and as the game went on, you started to throw the ball downfield more and more, you know, the first few drives. Classic CJ, five-yard dump, five-yard dump, inaccurate, bad screen. It was, it looked like it was going to be a frustrating day. They started to get better. They started to convert on third downs. Schematically

did we see anything in this game that we can take forward as we think about the Texans? Because they have such a good defense, did we see anything that could help complement this defense? Yeah. Again, I think they're going to be a borderline playoff team, which for the Texans, that's the most you're going to ask where you don't, coming into the year, I graded them as one the worst offensive lines in all football. So I remember we joked. People were just taking them the division because it's like everyone else in division is a joke and that's the view of it. It's like no one thought this was going to be a good team, a contender. They're just not built right.

So for me, it's just keep approving through the draft of the years. But like, no, watch them today. There's just, I just can't see them challenging the Colts for this division. They just, you watch the Colts and you watch Houston. It's two totally different worlds. One just looks like a machine offensively, totally in rhythm. Like you said, everything. things hard for CJ in this offense, even on days like today, where the run game felt like

it was getting seven yards per carry for Houston. Still felt like CJ missed throws, and it was tough at points for him. So yeah, I just, I'm confident in them to be a playoff team potentially, but not confident in them to be one of the better teams in all football. Houston had 475 yards. That was more than twice as many as the 49ers who had 223. They had 75 total plays. the Niners only had 44. So what does that tell you about your boy, Mac Jones, that he was able to make this as close as it was? He basically did it in three drives.

He had like three good drives that enabled us to have to sweat in like the only game we really had to sweat today. So good on Mac. He's not going to be the starter, but good on Mac. Dallas at Denver, Denver minus three and a half. This was Chad's choice. Our biggest fear in betting this case,

game was Bo Nix. And you asked me before we came on the air, what did I think when I saw that play? I'm going to tell you the truth. The first pick. The first pick. That's right. The first pick from Bo Nix on the first draft, I think it was the third play of the game. I was so hungry at that point, Simon, after the early games.

And that Broncos game started so much later that I hadn't turned over to Multivue yet. I got up and I went, I got myself some carrot sticks. And so I missed the first pick. So when I got to that game, the Cowboys were scoring a field goal. And so I only saw the good stuff. So if I'd seen that first play, I probably would have pulled a Brian Dayball. Like I would have been apoplectic. But because I didn't have to see it, I felt great the whole day because they kind of dominated.

I was thinking of you last week. We had that really bad night. Obviously, we went two and three with Houston loss for us. So it's like when the morning. and I thought of you because I had a bowl of Count Chocula. Do you know what Count Chocula is? I know what Count Chocula is. All right.

It's one of the last things remaining on this planet that tastes like the 90s. It tastes like disappointment in plastic. It tastes like the 70s, dude. I love Count Chacula. And they haven't changed the recipe. God bless them. But it is just terrible for you. When I eat it, it's a true depressing meal.

You only get it in this Halloween type of thing. And I was thinking if Chad ate this bowl. of cereal he would combust I feel like you would just explode I would turn into Dracula in the sunlight yeah seriously love but no it's uh yeah it's this is the type of game that we thought exactly was gonna beat Chathes Broncos game yeah like that's as a handicap or that's why today's been so fun all these games I feel like for the most part we talked about gone these ways and just deck incredibly talented but you saw that offensive line getting him off his spot he had multiple turnovers on

flip side. Bo Nix, other than that one turnover, played against Air. He just was passing. It was like a seven on seven. It was a practice game. Yeah, the run game, picking up 10 yards a clip.

You know, the Cowboys, they're making it publicly know, right? They're trying to get Max Crosby. They're trying to get a Trey Hendricks. They're three or four guys on that line away from having a defensive line. So, yeah, Dallas is going to be a fun team. They're going to somehow maybe be a playoff team,

but in these type of games, like I feel like we nailed it where if you have an offense that can scheme it like Sean Payton, and you have a defense that can get pressure with four or five guys, that's going to be Dallas's weakness. If they just face a jugger on offense like themselves and they can't put up the points themselves because they just can't keep up with all the pressure in Dak's face. So yeah, great read. Get great back because a lot of pros, a lot of guys talking love for Dallas this week. So glad we stuck with that one and never wavered minus three and a half. We never wavered. And I will tell you right now,

your support for this bet meant everything to me. Not even kidding. Like, you loved it. You kept saying you loved it. I'm like, all right. Well, we were fighting over on Tuesday. Not fighting, but it was like, both of us wanted it. And you took it.

I took another game. So, yeah. No, it landed how we thought. Yeah, great game. And if the Broncos just changed their uniforms to those old school blue helmets and those jerseys. Yeah. Just do it. It would be great.

I love those unis. They look fantastic. They play fantastic. It's awesome. Good for us. Those were the four games we had on the day. Let's do a quick word from Hard Rock, and we're going to get to, we've got to get to that Chicago-Baltimore game. We'll do that right after this word from Hard Rock. Today's show is brought to you by our new presenting sponsor Hard Rock Bet. Week 8 wraps up with Washington at Kansas City.

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this morning, had a little rant, the arrogance, stupidity, obfuscation by John Harbaugh, in a week in which the biggest betting scandal since legalization had taken place with the NBA and Terry Rozier and Chauncey Billups and Damon Jones, to have the audubes, and stupidity to mess around with the injury report and Lamar Jackson. Maybe he's living in a hole. Maybe he hasn't come out of his film room. But you've got to be self-aware enough to know the situation with your league and how its relationship with operators has changed the way gambling is viewed and the way the

integrity of the games are viewed. The fact that this happened, and I know the NFL has said they're going to investigate, was just honest to God, idiocy. You and I decided we were going to stick with the Ravens at six and a half. And that was partially because we liked Tyron Huntley better than Cooper Rush. So that worked out really, really well. I have some thoughts on the Bears, but I want to get your take on how you were feeling about this game as a

started. Yeah, honestly didn't waver though because it was new puntling and it's like if it was you know a different scenario where it's a quarterback I don't trust and I've made a loud and clear about that. I just don't like a russian this offense. I would have had to abide to all my positions. It would have been an absolute nightmare. But got really lucky. Didn't budge even though the line had moved, what, four points against us, five points against us. Yeah. From seven down to two and then it went back up. I meant Tyler Huntley, not Tyron Huntley. Just call him Snoop. You want to be called Snoop.

Snoop. Snoop. Yeah. It's just the exact game, though, of you just trust the spot and the numbers. And if you can lie to yourself about the quarterback position being semi-decent, it was an automatic spot for this Ravens team. We went through all the trends, everything like that. Just the Browns, I mean, the Bears, they were over-achievers walking into an absolute death trap.

So I knew you're going to have feelings about Caleb Williams and a lot of things that went wrong with that offense today. They were never going to win. You guys win this. This type of game, you guys go in there. You win, like, play well and win this game outright. You got to start taking them serious as a contender in the division. Like, this is not a wild card team. This is a legit team going on the road in a really tough environment against the most desperate team in football.

Ravens, fair to say, like, they lose this. oh my god so yeah just just a nightmare spot for the bears i'm just so happy for our fans that it covered because it's like nothing nothing's more sickening than us getting a number hitting it giving it out on the show and then like you said feel like we were misguided and lied to and now we look like idiots because an organization kind of pulled the rug from ethos so so happy it came through but my god when that game first started i was like like you said bears were playing so well to start the game. Why did we not tell people to get out of this position? My God. But yeah, like we said, the game went along. You saw it's just the Ravens defense even showed up. The run game

showed up. It just all clicked today for that Ravens team. Well, look, they did some of the things that we talked about. Were they going to bring Kyle Hamilton into the box to improve their rush defense? Yes, they did that often. Were they going to lean and Derek Henry in the Russian game? And after that first quarter, the Bears went down the field pretty easily, but they only got two field goals. And, you know, there were, that's sort of the difference because in the first drive of the second quarter, the Ravens just run the ball down the field with ease. Derek Henry makes everything look like they are just, he's sort of just dragging guys behind him. And like after that, the bears got unscripted. And they didn't know what they were doing anymore. And one of the

questions and comments from one of the viewers that were, that's watching right. now live is does Caleb Williams have a little bit of that Trevor Lawrence in him? And I'm not going to lie. That's exactly what I thought today. If you look at Trevor Lawrence's staff, we've talked about this so often on the show, he looks like he's a good quarterback. He looks like he's earned the guaranteed contract and he's continuing to climb. If you watch the games, you see the bad decisions, you see the misthrows, you see the mistakes,

You see the things that turn them from having a chance in a game to no longer being in the game. And we saw that from Caleb today multiple times. And he is normally not a guy who throws picks. And then, of course, Jim Harbaugh, I thought, or John Harbaugh, made a very good decision. And it was fourth and five late in the game. They're up 2316. They're in Bears' territory. They could go for it.

They could try to kick a field goal. Instead, they took the five yards. They pinned the bears back. Caleb throws interception deep in his end zone. The Ravens then score a touchdown on the following series. And that, to me, kind of was indicative of what you get from Caleb, which is, and Trevor Lones, magical throws, generally good stats, not the kind of plays that help you win the game consistently. That was my take on this game. And also, this defense is terrible, truly terrible.

Dennis Allen is a terrible coach, irresponsible the way he coached this team to not be ready for the way the Ravens were going to play this game. The only thing that usually brings me joy when the Bears aren't doing well is watching Matt Iberfluse coach in a game in which I have bet against him. I couldn't even take joy in Iberfluse today because his team is so banged up. He had no shot to stop the Broncos. So instead I got no joy from this game, other than the fact we covered. But as a Bears fan, as a Bears fan, I want you to ask me what I texted to my son today after the game. Just tell us. I said at some point during this game, I asked myself,

what would it be like if I decided I was no longer a Bears fan? What would I honestly gain in my life? What would I lose in my life? Like, how would my Sundays be different? How would my week be different? How would I think, you know, it's like, when you're a fan, you're a fan of the Eagles. We're all fan of like, we love football. We're invested in these teams.

Not like it doesn't ruin our lives, but it makes me sadder than happier. And this team just makes me sad and frustrated. Let me counter some of your points about my dear friend, Caleb Williams. All right. We know where you stand at Caleb Williams, Chad. You literally chose Troy Aikman over him. You're just, me and all the Bears fans have shunned you. And by the way, last week, Troy Aikman couldn't have been happier. He was enjoying the game. He was talking about his

hammies and pulling his getting pulled muscles on the treadmill and like, he was joyous last week. Well, we're all read as, as the actual Bears fan on this show, we're ready for you to walk away from this team and Caleb Williams. I told you it's going to be ugly. It's going to be bumpy, man. He's learning an incredibly complex offense. And he's a number one pick. I mean, let's be honest here on this show and run through all the number one picks of the last 25 years.

It's not a beautiful, it's not a pretty list, Chad. It's an ugly list where Payton Manning worked out. It's a bunch of just shit and turds thereforth. I mean, Joe Burrow got to a search. Super Bowl. That was fun. Number one pick. Stafford, he won one. That was fun. By the way. Stafford. You're naming great players. Stafford. I know. Joe Burrow, Jared Gough, Baker Mayfield. Like, how dare you? Come on. I'm just saying it, but like, like, it took those guys years. You know what I mean? It took Jared golf and Baker years to get right. Um, I just take time

with Caleb. I'm with you. Like he's 23 though. I just, he looks like an idiot. He plays like an idiot. He's so young. The league is so hard. He just, he has so many bad habits. He needs to get beat out of him. And that's what you have the perfect, you have a psychopath as a head coach. He will beat these things out of them over time. And if it doesn't work, again, you have a psychopath head coach. He will move on from Caleb Williams. You have no worries out of you. So I get it. You want to be upset and stuff like that. Like I see these plays too and you're just like, dude, get rid of, get the ball of your hand. Stop holding on to it so long. It's never, never works out for him when he holds on the ball and tries to improvise. So we'll see.

I still believe in the talent. Like you said, he still makes throws every now and then. When he does push the ball forward with his feet, when he does run forward, not backwards, he actually does make good plays with his feet when he's not going backwards. So I get what you're coming from, brother, but just give him time. This offense is complex. I just, this was a horrible spot for the Bears. They were, they were doomed before the game even started. I've never been happier to have Caleb Blooms as my quarterback than. having the Ravens minus six and a half when they're up 30 to 16 with 30 seconds left. And the bears try to run a sneak.

They can't get in. And so they have to rush the final play. And you know that the play design clearly calls for some kind of quick pass. And Caleb doesn't release the ball when he's supposed to. And just sort of sidearm flings it out of the back of the end zone. So that way there's no chance. There's no risk that they're going to go for a two point conversion. and cover the six and a half.

That's when I was like, I'm not sweating this right now because there's no way the bears have no timeouts are going to be able to unpack this one literally from the offensive line back into the backfield. So, you know, that's just how I feel. I'm glad we won. I feel we got better's justice today, you know? That's what we got.

We got better's justice. Good for Snoop Huntley. I got a little bit more about him later in the show. Quickly, I just want to say on Tampa Bay and New Orleans because we're done talking about the Saints. They're not a wise guy team. I don't want to hear about them being a wise guy team.

We saw the end of Spencer Rattler today. Fumble on the first series, pick six from his own two-yard line to a defensive lineman. He got benched for Tyler Shuck. Tyler Shuck through interception on his first series. Antoine Winfield was in the end zone more than the Saints were. Thank freaking God.

God, we didn't sucker ourselves here. Yeah, but another team, like, again, I know you hate them and you're saying, this is not a sharp team, but what are you going to do when you have receivers fumbling the ball as well? Like, it just, like you said, they're a bad team that keeps shooting themselves on the foot. It was seven three at half,

and the only seven that Tampa scored. Was that pick six? Yeah. So it's like, I get it. I get what you're saying, like you hate them, but there is a reason people are bad in this team. They're not that terrible. It's just they're like Tennessee.

Everything that could go wrong goes wrong for them. They're just, these bad teams of football now are just so bad. And for them to cover, like the Jets, they need 10 miracles in a row. It's like, it's just a weird thing right now, these teams that are really bad. And the Bucks, they should, they, I know you said you thought this was going to be easier of iron for Baker. I told you, just Baker is off right now. He's injured.

It wasn't easy. It was not easy. No. Like he, I think 150 yards, if I'm not mistaken, is what he had passing. Like, just Baker was off today, but the Saints gave him five turnovers. And Baker will kill you every time with that. He won't make the turnovers. He'll just have his off day, not make the risky throws.

And, you know, even their running game, they only averaged like three yards of carry or whatever was, 3.2 yards. Yeah. So the buck's bad spot. They're just, this is what I love about good teams. They showed up in other areas, which was their defense. And they dominated. Like you said, Spencer Rattler looks like he's about, he's already out of the league. Like I gave him all this praise two weeks ago.

He is horrible. These last two weeks just turnovers, bad throws, bad reads. And yeah, it's, it's trade. The trade deadline's coming up, Saints. You have some really good veteran pieces. You shouldn't move them on. Last game I want to talk about, we got to get to it. The New York Jets.

What did we say on Tuesday? What did we say on Tuesday? Take the Jets money line. We said, take the Jets money line. Boy, did they make us look good. They worked hard at it. Brise Hall had to score three touchdowns in the fourth quarter, including a touchdown pass on a halfback option with one minute

and 54 seconds left in this game for the Jets to win 39, 38. Oh, I can't wait for the headlines in the New York Post. I can't wait for the press conference this week with Aaron Glenn, who's going to make it sound like he's a genius. Justin Fields throwing for 245. That's about 25% of all the passing yards he's thrown for this year. Magnificent. Magnificent.

Yeah, and we definitely talked about on that Tuesday show that. At that point, Joe Flacco, if you bet against him, you could have got plus 270 on the money line with that Jets team. And, you know, before kick, that's why I like I love watching the market because it's just interesting seeing how the money dictates the market and how it moves. It closed up plus 215 that money line. Yeah. So it went from on Tuesday plus 270 to close at plus 215. some books closed with them at plus five and a half that Jets team. So I mean, geez, talking about the ultimate sweat, like you needed so many things to go your way to cover that number.

Not even just cover it, you went outright. It's why we talking about how stupid football can be, why we love betting these dogs. And this year, it's just not depressing or sad, but it is in a sense that like I don't bet the money line rod robin dogs like I used to. I'm really heavy into a betting on money line around Robin favorites because it's what cash is. And a game like this with the Jets happen, not every week, but every other, it felt like now just you don't get these stupid upsets like this. And like this week, it was all chalk. There was this upset, Miami's upset. Other than that, it was all favorites.

Like, it just all favorites outright. So I just, I love these type of games. You can go back and watch it a thousand times. Like they kept showing the fans in the stans, these Sincu fans. And they knew like we all did at home that it was over. Even when Joe Flacco got the ball back, still up six, it's just football is the best that way. You can just, you've lived it so many times you know what's going to happen. And it doesn't matter what you do, you can't stop it.

Like we all knew it was coming. So, you know, all the fourth downs, all these like insanely random plays that worked with Justin Fields today. Like you said, he passed the ball really well. and, you know, in a week where his owners throwing him under the bus. Under the bus. The joke of an ownership, one of the worst owners in the league.

For him to go out there, win that type of game, 39 points on the road. Yeah, what a great, great feeling if you're a Jets team, but I don't know about their fans, they're probably upset, right? They don't want to win anything. Now they're 1 in 7, but I think it'll be all right, Jets fans. I still think they'll be up.

Yeah, I don't anticipate a run. right now. Like as a fan, you won't to get one or two a year, Jets. They're that bad. That was a great all-timer. Yeah, that was truly, truly fantastic. I'll just say this too about the Jets.

Denver, they lost, I know it's England. They lost 11 to 13. Panthers, they lost 13 to 6. I mean, not that like, again, we're joking to Aaron's a back coach. They haven't given up on them. I give them credit for that. Three straight weeks, one score games.

They've been in it. fighting in these close, ugly games. So my God, the Jets experience terrible, but a huge win for them. Now they have a buy a week. Who knows? Who knows what it could be for them going forward? They got Cleveland and New England coming up. Simon, it's time to play.

Shame, shame, shame. Shame on you, NFL officials in that Giants game. I just, I know it's lazy, but I just, that's the only thing that really got me mad this week. Like, every team we bet on, I thought they played with. well even Jackson Dart, I thought he played well enough to cover for us. So I really can't be mad at the players, can't be mad at the coaches, just the refs, they might have ruined me and Chad's perfect four and O day.

What could have been? What could have been? I have a really fun videos. I'm ready to post for our perfect day, but it's got to wait for another week. We're not perfect yet. My shame, shame, shame. Pre-game, no doubt about it. It was it was John Harbaugh. But post-game, Shame on you. Shame, shame, shame. Cincinnati Bengals defense against the New York Jets. You were up 31-16 against a winless team with a quarterback who had thrown for a combined 91 yards in the previous two games. With two minutes left in the third quarter, you had this game wrapped up.

In the fourth quarter, you give up a touchdown and a two-point conversion. You're up 3124. Then you score. You're up 3824. Then you give up two more touchdowns. You give the Jets the opportunity to win their first game of the year on a half-pack option with a minute 54 left. Brise Hall before he might get traded had three touchdowns in the fourth quarter. the Cincinnati Bengals defense gave up more than 500 yards to the New York Jets.

They gave up 260 yards rushing to the New York Jets. They gave up 245 yards passing to the New York Jets. This is an offense that had not been able to score more than a touchdown. You gave them three in the third quarter and you let them win the game. Shame, shame, shame on the Cincinnati Bengals. Love it. Simon, who is your hero of the week? I'm going to give it to my guy, James Cook.

Interesting. Talked a little bit about it. I was heavily bet invested in the Buffalo bills today. I know we didn't talk about much on the show, but it's people don't want, I mean, I can talk, I guess, more about me taking position on money line. but heavily invested in that money line of that bills team. And Chad knows a little funny story told him before the show is taking that. Chad gave me an why to my beloved of the bills before our show this morning. But I mean, Cook, something's up with Josh now.

He could not look right in this game at all. Yeah, Cook cooked. He did, though, like 2-16, two touchdowns. I think he broke off a 65-yard run, 64-yard run. Just unreal when it's. going with that Bill's running attack. And, you know, a game where Josh Allen doesn't have it, he didn't need to because that running attack was so dominant.

And, yeah, I guess I could also give it to Andy Dolan. He was also here in that game. But now, Cook for me, just a guy that we always ask, why does he not get more touches in this Bill's offense? And I think Joe Brady's coming around to it. It's like, I get you want to rotate guys in and out. Just let cook cook, like Chad said. My hero of the week, how could it not be snoo?

Huntley. This is a guy who got cut by the Ravens a year ago, played in Miami, went to Cleveland, got cut by Cleveland this year. You think the Browns might want a competent veteran quarterback who is careful with the ball and knows how to run? Then he's on the practice squad, back with the Ravens, and they prefer Cooper Rush, who after two games averaging six and a half points, finally decide to go to Snoop Huntley. And what does the guy do? What does the guy do? 17 of 22 for 185 and one touchdown. He gains 53 yards on the ground. He didn't make mistakes. He proved that he could move this game and this team down the field. He got them in the end zone. He got them out of challenging situations. He made passes on third and long when he had to make the right pass to the right position.

to the right guy or the right shoulder, Snoop Huntley saved us from looking like bigger idiots than we normally look like on this show. For that, Snoop, you are the hero of the week on Sharper Square. All right, Simon says you had Houston minus one. Chad's choice, I had Denver minus three brass balls. Baltimore minus six and a half. Rocking a hard place, we had New England minus six and a half.

half sharp versus square i had the new york jets plus six and a half you have pittsburg plus three and a half our favorites parley uh pats bills denver colts we said you know cut it down to minus five and a half we also got the chiefs minus five and a half so that's what four and oh right now and then the underdog parley stealers jets Saints, Giants Bear. So that's a loser of a bet. Early liens, Simon. And by the way, just a reminder,

we are on Pittsburgh plus three and a half tonight. I know people in the chat were asking, and we said it off the top of the show. We've been on Pittsburgh plus three and a half the entire week. Simon, early leans for you. I got some. I mean, insanely fishy lines this week. people be incredibly careful

because my opinion could change come Tuesday but Chiefs are minus one and a half against the Buffalo Bills that is a line I will take on that Chiefs team right now. Like that's the bills,

maybe they are, maybe they have fixed some of their issues, but I still think they have problems defensively and Andy Dolan didn't exploit any of those problems. So I like that Chief's number,

even though I know, it's very, very Joe public right now. Seahawks minus three against Washington next Sunday. What in the world is that number? Seahawks, even if Daniels is back, they feel like a much better team than this Washington team.

Yeah, well, defensively for sure, right? They're playing like... Incredible. Like they're just solid. Yeah. And it's a banged-up Daniels. Seahawks on the road as well, totally different teams. So minus three early number, I will take that as we sit here right now as well.

So back-to-back road chalk for me to start it off, Chad. I saw Detroit minus eight and a half against Minnesota. It's already minus nine at Hard Rock. Well, I'd still take it at nine, you know, because then I'm risking a push versus eight and a half. Fair. But I have no reason not to bet this team, and I have no reason to bet on Minnesota.

Is the quarterback going to be J.J. McCarthy against this Detroit Lions team that has had time off at home where they just dominate all the time? No reason to not back the Lions until they show us they shouldn't be trusted at home as a big favorite. So that one stuck out to me. Pittsburgh as a home dog against Indianapolis stuck out to me.

I'm obviously going to wait until I see what happens tonight in that game. But I also, the other game that immediately flagged was Kansas City minus one and a half. I saw that. I'm like, oh, yeah, that's a, that's a game we're going to bet right now. That, those were, those were the ones. All right. Final review.

I'll give one sharp line. Yeah. Houston plus one right now at Hard Rock, at home against Denver. Oh, that's interesting. Yeah. Okay. Still market not valuing this Houston team. It seemed like they're a little bit overvalying that Denver team.

Well, for sure. We'll see where that number goes. My instant reaction is I can see that flipping. So I'm going to grab Houston now as a dog. All right. We had today the Patriots minus six and a half. That was a win. Denver minus three and a half.

That was a win. Houston plus one. That was a win. The Giants plus seven and a half. That was a loss. We have the Pittsburgh Steelers tonight plus three and a half to round out. our final final five. This has been Sharper Square

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