The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Sharp or Square - SHARP NFL Week 3 Bets: Cowboys-Bears, Chiefs-Giants, Rams-Eagles, Steelers-Patriots & more

Episode Date: September 19, 2025

NFL Week 3 is here and expert bettor Chad Millman and professional sports gambler Simon Hunter narrow down the best bets for all the big football matchups: Dallas Cowboys at Chicago Bears, Kansas City Chiefs at New York Giants, Los Angeles Rams at Philadelphia Eagles, Indianapolis Colts at Tennessee Titans, Pittsburgh Steelers at New England Patriots, and more. All lines provided by Hard Rock Bet Timeline: 02:00 - Intro 03:24 - Wiseguy Hotline 06:47 - Packers-Browns 11:49 - Texans-Jaguars  19:03 - Steelers-Patriots 24:31 - Rams-Eagles 33:13 - Colts-Titans  41:03 - Broncos-Chargers 48:21 - Cowboys-Bears 55:04 - Chiefs-Giants 1:03:51 - Lions-Ravens 1:05:51 - Falcons-Panthers 1:06:53 - Cardinals-49ers 1:08:33 - Moneyline Underdog Parlay 1:10:25 - Moneyline Favorites Parlay 1:11:18 - Survivor Pick 1:14:19 - Sharp vs SquareSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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This is the betting show that makes the square sharper and makes the wise guys pay attention. I am Chad Milman and I am joined by my co-host, my BFF, my companion, my compadre professional better. Simon Hunter. Hello, Simon. Chad, how we doing? I feel so good. I do.

I feel great. I'm going to feel worse after we tell people what our brass balls better the week is. But right now, it's like that run up before you know the bad news is coming and you're just going to enjoy those final moments. This is our Thursday week. episode where we narrow the options on our quest to agree for our five favorite picks of this week. By the way, for housekeeping, we are throwing up the graphic with our record for the five picks. We have landed on during the Sunday morning shows so far in weeks one and two. We will normally do this on Tuesday. We missed this week. I want to make sure we showcased it. Six and four on the

year four and one in week one two and three hard fought two and three in week two reminder subscribe to sharper square on youtube apple pods Spotify however you want we are there let's get into this thing simon we got to check in with the wise guy let's go to the wise guy hotline all right chad so let's start where i feel like games we didn't talk much about i think people just want to hear it because we're probably I talked about again. They just want to know what the pro side is for those games. A lot of pro love for the bucks this week. A couple guys I talked to really love the bucks.

I got no read, no real opinion on that one. So I found that pretty interesting that the professionals like the bucks, just because I really like the Jets there. I thought it was a good number. Maybe I'll just steer clear of it. There's other games I like a lot more. So that one jumped out of. Can I just say I'm so glad to hear you say that

because that number is moved in the direction of the jet. and it was at seven, now at six and a half. I was afraid we were going to have to have a long conversation about it. And I can't get there. I feel like the Jets are the right side, but I can't get there. They might be, but I was shocked. I thought it was going to be just like last week, all Jets love. But I see the love for the bucks.

I just can't get over the injuries to the books. Their whole offensive line is just banged up. Yeah. All right. Let's get to, it's going to be a week of just dogs, So I'll start at the top of this with the calls here that everyone I've talked to, you knows this is a week to take these road divisional dogs. And there's a bunch of them.

And it's a unique spot where you've probably heard this trend. Basically, Houston, 0 and 2 against the spread. Now they're on the road as a divisional dog. Denver, 0.2 against the spread. Now on the road is a divisional dog. Miami, dolphins. O'n 2 against the spread on the road as a divisional dog. in this exact spot since 2003 teams in the exact spot.

So on the road, a divisional dog after being 0 and 2 against the spread, hits an 80% clip. So people got to hold their nose and realize that the pros love the dolphins this week. The pros love the Texans and the pros love the Denver. So those are three teams that jump out right away that I get what they love it. The trends back it up. And I'm excited for that big games that we dive into here. But those three, so many calls about it.

And I was just so happy because I love them as well. And the other ones will just go through really quick because we're going to talk about them as well. Browns, tons of professional love, Eagles, tons of professional love. And, you know, not that big of a shocker. The Bears has been a big talking point for the pros. So the most hate I got about all of our picks

was definitely the Chiefs bet. And I'm sure we'll talk about that game with some more. But yeah, all mostly love for our picks heading this week. I think people are going to see on a good week. I like maybe two, three bets, including totals. This week, I have like five or six sides I really like, and I bet into pretty have you. So I'm really excited to talk about this week three.

No surprise that everyone hates the Chiefs. And listen. They hate your pet, Chad. They really do. They hate it. And like, we're going to talk about it. We're going to talk about the Texans. We're going to talk about the Bears.

We're going to talk about the Broncos. We're going to talk about the Browns, all those things. We are going to talk about the Chiefs. I got some thoughts on the Chiefs that we'll get to. Let's talk about Green Bay of Cleveland. So look, the number is seven and a half at Hard Rock Bet right now. It's moved down. It was at eight and a half.

And you've already pinpointed. Cleveland is the sharp side. I do have a confession to make. I have been holding off on this game. And then yesterday afternoon, it was at eight and a half. It was eight or seven and a half at most places. There was one book where it was eight and a half, eight and a half minus 110. And I'm like, what am I doing?

Like this is the game we are supposed to love betting. This is the game where we say to ourselves, we know what we're doing. We see the money going in the opposite, in the Browns direction. direction. So I felt like I had a little bit of a KPI for lack of a better term to get all corpority. Like the majority of the money is on the Packers. We're back in the O2 team. That's the trend. I'm not saying it's a final five. But Simon, I'm drawing a line in the sand. Okay? This has been the year of the favorites. Last year was the year of the favorites. The Browns don't cover this game, I don't know that we can trust anything we've ever known about

betting underdogs. That's how I feel about it. That's an overreaction. People are going to see the theme of this week. I think you're kind of talking about it a little bit here. It's just overreaction to two weeks of data and the general public thinking they have a read on these teams that they have no idea what these teams are really are. And you, the more you dive into matchups and numbers. A lot of it is luck in different teams and matchups that skew people's perceptions. And you know, some teams just come out flat with other teams come out flawless, right? After even some of these teams, it's funny reading stuff like here and B-writers have horrible weeks of practice and they come out game day. And they've just been incredible these first two weeks. So it is hard to

get a read. And I think a journal public or reacts to stuff. And this is the prime example of that. And these, I don't love, I do, I do love trends, but I don't love them as much later in the season. in these early weeks here. And my favorite one is for this exact spot where Chad, Chad feels sick to his stomach betting it because he knows he has to bet it. And there's a good reason that you feel that way, Chad, because this is another long-term winner where you're getting a home dog greater than seven points in the first couple weeks of the season.

So it's a unique spot when in the first nine games of the year, if there's a home dog at seven points or more, they've covered a 59% success rate since the last 20 years, crazy to think but since 2020 there's 37 10 and 2 against the spread and just the last three seasons this exact spot this home divisional dog or I shouldn't say divisional dog this home dog

of 7 points or more they're 18 1 and 2 chat since 2020 in the spot or since the last 3 C7 so you look at the last three years and we've talked about the death of the dog which is true right maybe we won't be putting this one on the money line but it shows right there the public overreacts. They move this number, especially earlier in the year. And, you know, this was probably

six and a half six. And, you know, Green Bay looks like gods on Thursday night. The Browns look like a horrible team that gets rolled to the general public. And this moves to three points. Like, this touch nine. So like Chad just said, there's one book out there, one very public book that stills eight and a half. This is heading to seven and a half eight. So you're going to bet it. You'll be sick your stomach if it loses like we're both going to be. But long term, bet this spot, bet these type of numbers. The Browns, we know they're a bad team. We're just trusting the number that they can backdoor this or keep this close. And remember all the injuries to that offensive line of Green Bay. And this is probably one of the best he lines

in football with Cleveland. Like, I can't believe how great they were against that Ravens team. It was just Lamar is just another level. So it didn't matter. But people will see. Like, this is going to be a really tough test for that front in Green Bay. And I do love this number. Simon, every trend you talk about is flashing bright, bright green. In addition to betting a team off of a blowout because you know the line is going to be inflated against them. Everything says bet the Browns. We are betting the Browns. Will it be in the final five?

I don't know. I feel like there's going to be four games we feel great about. And we're going to end up putting the Browns in and probably feeling pretty bad about it. And I'm telling you right now, if the Browns don't cover, I'm never betting another underdog as long as we live. I'm only betting favorites. I'm just betting favorites from now. See the lines next week. You're going to love some of those books.

Houston is a two-point underdog at Jacksonville. Actually, it's down to one and a half at Hard Rock. So we're seeing the line move in the direction of the Texans. this has been a weird line, okay? Because it was at one and a half. It was trending actually in the direction of pick. Then all of a sudden on Tuesday afternoon bounced way up to two and a half, dropped back down to two. I don't quite understand this one. But I'm telling you right now, we're making this our rock in a hard place, hard rock better than week because it is a little bit challenging. We talk about division dogs. We don't really know what this Texans team is.

And whatever C.J. Stroud was his rookie year is not what he was last year and it's not what he's been in the first two games. This offensive line really can't block anybody. The offense itself is stagnant. They really didn't do anything after the first two drives against the bucks. I'm not counting that chub touchdown because Todd Bulls basically let them score. So this team's struggling. And I think this is as much

a bet against Jacksonville to me as it is a bet on the Texans. It's a bet against Jacksonville and a bet against on the spot as it is the Texans. No brainer. Easy bet. If you love this show, you got to take this. I'm so mad

this number's reason because two and a half was a real number from this Texas last night and this morning. And I kept bending it, and I kept checking the news being like, am I missing? Someone hurt. So was I.

But I think we talk all the time. There's just a lot of head fakes with these professional bettors. I think they just moved the line, got a good number, and then bet it back down. And another, again, I talked about the trend of these divisional dogs on the road, O, and two against the spread.

Houston fits that. And it's another spot where the total, if it's less than 45, and it's a week three divisional game. And there's a dog, again, that hasn't covered in two straight since 2011. This has a 13-0 spot for this Texas team on this trends, where it's basically a team that's undervalued because the public is totally off of them. Professional better is a little hesitant because what Chad is talked about, CJ,

he's giving people doubt right now, right? And I have questions about CJ like everyone else, but he still does things around like, I see the talent. And you can go back a look. Last year, the last five games of the season, he played at that level we saw the year before. He was throwing for over 300 yards in those games. Playoffs.

Touchdown. Yeah, playoffs. He showed up against the Chargers. Like, CJ's got it in them. It's all about he being comfortable. And you've seen a quarterback that's uncomfortable right now for this Houston team. So I get the people's hesitation with this one, but this is a very unique spot where Houston's actually kind of the guys in this

game, right? In this matchup, they've owned the Jaggars last few times they've played him. I know every team's different, but it's also a C.J. Spot. CJ is a favorite. He's not that good, but as a dog in his career, he's 11 and 7 against the spread. And, okay, that's not that big of a deal. It is when you look at how bad he is as a favorite when the public overvalues him, when they start to doubt him undervalue him. That shows that T.J. and the Texans tend to show up, C.J. and the Texans show up here. So short week. People are hesitant about that as well because they played, you know, on Monday night. In his early career, he's four and one on short weeks against the spread.

So he comes up really preparing these exact spots. And it's a AFC South game. And the AFC South has a weird trend right now going of these dogs in this division. The last few years, they're 11-1 against the spread. So we've seen the dogs in this division tend to get over undervalied by the public and the favorites get a little overvalued. There's two games this week in this division, both dogs, you know, Tennessee and the Houston Texans here,

their numbers have moved against them. And that's what again. I'm upset. I wish this was two and a half on the show. Two and a half in our contest, no brain or easy bet. At one and a half, I'm still probably in on them for our contest because I just think this is such a good spot with such a desperate team in Texans. And their defense, this is kind of a perfect matcher.

for Domingo Rines and the defense he runs with the Texans against the Jaguars zone blocking scheme. And, you know, we saw that teams in this 0-and-2 spot, it's kind of a make-or-break spot for them this season. So, yeah, would we be shocked, chap, we're sitting here in the Texas or 0-and-3? We wouldn't be, but the amount of value you're getting on the line is them as a dog, when they're clearly the better team of these two teams, to me it really sticks out about how far they have fallen. because if they win that buck scheme, this is probably them minus two, minus two and a half. And Baker pulled a rabbit at a hat. And now they're a two point dog at a couple of books, one and a half dogs.

So I love that you're lined up on this one with me here. I felt like your law has a 10 on Tuesday. I see you've come around pretty big here as we had a month Thursday show. Well, you know what I also started thinking about? And you're mentioning a lot of trends. And we've talked about this. I love the trends as much as anybody. But also, I feel like as I did my self-scouting from last year, I just let the trends lead the way for me instead of letting the trends help support ideas that I had.

And so I'm trying to be more thoughtful about the trends this year. And I look to explain yourself about the trends every week. I'm going to give trends, Chad. You don't need every week to explain yourself about the trends. Yeah, but I feel like I do because. No one cares. Because I'm not betting this based on the trends. I'm betting this.

Good for you. Then don't do that. Don't bet this game because of the trends. I'm just letting people know that there's data that backs it up and there's trends early in the season here that backs up why this number is what it is. Can I explain why I actually like the game? Why we're together? Just every week.

Don't be like any here again, people, I don't really care about the trends. This is why I like the game. We get it. You don't care about trends. Okay. I like the game. And I do care about trends. I like the game because I look at this,

this matchup and whatever we think of the Rams against the Eagles, they're a playoff caliber team. Whatever we think of the Bucks who might have gotten lucky in week one against the Falcons and might have gotten lucky in week two against the Texans, they're a playoff caliber team. The Texans have now lost to two playoff caliber teams in relatively close games. The Jags beat themselves one week and then beat up on what might be one of the worst teams in the NFL in week one. So the reason why to play this game is because I think the team is probably more talented than their record shows versus a team that maybe isn't as talented as the record shows. Fair. We can be on the same side and get there from different angles. I know. No more disclaimers

though. We get it. Pittsburgh and New England. New England is a one and a half point underdog. Look, I thought this would move towards the Pats. It's moved a little bit in the direction of the Steelers as far as the juice. I'm just really down on the Steelers. And we talked about this on Tuesday. Their defense just isn't very good. I also think Rogers is pretty pedestrian. Christian Gonzalez, the Patriots defense aback, did practice this week, limited on Wednesday.

do I all of a sudden believe believe in Vrabel again you've been telling me I have to believe in Vrable Am I believing in Vrable right now? I know it feels like we're supposed to in this spot right And I know that historically you know Tomlin's actually struggled in this exact spot and the trends look at that and they're just like okay It shows that Tomlin on the as a favorite I struggled on the road He's also struggled historically against his Patriots team doesn't matter if bellichick had Brady or you know, Mack Jones, whoever in their quarterback, this has just never been a frayable spot.

And Aaron Rogers, surprisingly, Owen two in his career, playing against New England in New England. So, you know, Frable for me, I think we're in the alignment of he does bring something to this team and that's going to show itself all season.

It's really about us believing in Drake, May, if we're going to take this spot here, Chad. And that's a tough spot here for me, us putting this on the contest, where I'm betting this, people want to know what side I'm on. I'm bad in the Patriots. I'm on the Patriots.

I like the number. I have him as a favor, but Drake May, you know, best game was career, no doubt last week against Miami, but we talked Miami so bad. And I go back and watch, and it's like I see a lot of the good,

but you do see a lot of the bad and what can give you pause. And, you know, this Steelers front, like we said, they've got injuries and everything like that, but none of it really falls to TJ. He's actually been pretty dominant this year, especially in the sense that you can't run to a side of the field.

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So I see ways that Patriots attacking the Steelers team, but yeah, it's, it's tough for me to really, you know, slam the table here by this Patriots team and say it's one of my favorite bets. Yeah. It's a tight. Drake May is the conundrum. I'm just not, I'm not going to be fooled by how well he did against the Dolphins secondary because the week before he didn't look that good. But Raiders might be a good defense, too. That's the thing. It's like, Dr. Sure.

Trying to get him the benefit of the doubt here where it's like, this is a game. He should be able to light up this secondary. The Rams at the Eagles. So this number is at three at Hard Rock bet. I think it's trending towards three at most other places. It's still at three and a half. But if you look at the juice, it's trending towards three. I'm surprised that when we did some wise guy called,

the Wise Guy hotline, that you were hearing all this love about the Eagles, because I feel like the number of texts I've gotten this week about the Rams and how much people love the Rams, it's not throwing me off, but it's making me hope the number gets to three everywhere because I really want to bet the Eagles. So you're telling me that the sharp side here from the conversations you've had is Philadelphia. you. It could be true based on the number, right? Early in the week, almost everyone I talked to was on the ramp side when it was four,

four and a half. So I do think it's just based on the number, right? Hard Rock now at three. I'd still take Eagles of three and a half, honestly, minus three and a half. I'm looking at this game as I get why you'd feel more confident about betting the Rams team, right? They look like an absolute juggernaut where you look at the Eagle stats. I mean, something crazy, right? Hertz hasn't thrown for over 140 yards or maybe it's 150, whatever it is.

It's a really low through two weeks per game. And the offense looks like it's struggling. Everything's really tough to do. The Rams, they're coming off arguably their best performance of the McVeigh-Staffer error, right? They were really putting it together. And it's interesting how they forget how that team was totally out of sync. And it kind of took a couple turnovers and things to get that juice. flowing for them.

This actually is a bad spot historically for McVeigh and Stafford. When they're playing against teams that are basically above 500 on the road together as a dog, they're five and nine against the spread in this exact spot. So this is a unique thing where they're pretty good actually traveling east, but as a dog against a really good team, they're bad in this spot historically. And that could just be more about how we feel about where it's like, well, if you look back, it'd probably make sense where if you're getting Stafford and McVay is a, four and a half five point dog or a three point dog against a good team you're probably going to be

more inclined to take them because that's you know that's more likely than to cover that number you feels like in your mind it's like they're just as good as this team they're playing why not take the dog and i think that's what the public's doing here with professionals and this feels like a little bit like the chief's last super that felt like not the lazy pro number but it did right the pros that were telling me to take the chiefs it kind of thought a little lazy and just being like well it's Holmes. He doesn't go own to. And, oh, they're like, little reasons like that where it's like, you know, this Rams team, they're just a better team right now. When you really dive into it, they're actually really bad against pass rush. Like, their line has major problems. And it's been mitigated by Stafford and McVeigh and adding Adams and Pooka Nakua playing out of his mind. Like, there's ways to get around it. But you saw a little bit in that Houston game against a good defense, how much they struggled. and the Eagles aren't going to kick three field goals against this Rams defense, which is what Houston did.

So I feel like people are overreacting a little bit to this Rams team and overreacting the Eagles struggle in offense that it's just a complete team. Their offense is behind the page right now. It's very simple and basic, but I think this is really about the Eagles defense. So this is a great matchup for them. And the fear of the second corner against Adams or Puka, whatever, you know, whoever Jackson has to cover for the Eagles, that could be the major weakness we're overlooking here.

I just see so many holes on this offensive line of this ramps team. I think the Eagles fronts can be able to attack. And, yeah, offensively, you know, we've seen it. This Rams team, they have a good front, but they cannot stop the run. And that's not improved that much, in my opinion. They got lucky they faced two teams that just can't run the ball in the first two weeks. It's going to be a really interesting game where are we overreacting to this Rams team? Or am I underselling this Eagle's struggles and their problems on offense?

And is that going to pop up? here in this game. So I'm really excited for this one because it's going to tell us a lot about these two teams early on here where the Rams win this, they're going to be looked at as a very for a real team right now where if they lose and the Eagles do win by three or four, whatever it is, I still think people are going to have their doubts about this Eagles team. So it's an interesting lineup and spot for both these teams. Well, look, you nailed the dilemma here. Are the Eagles that knows their roster, knows they're talented, and is going to build and build and build as the season goes on, a little bit like the Chiefs used to do, right? When they were at their absolute peak,

they would just get better and better as the season went on. They didn't sweat any criticism. They didn't sweat how they looked when they were winning games early in the year. They knew that as the season went on, they were just going to get better and better. And then you have to ask yourself, are the Rams? Is there any sort of fraudulent framing for the Rams because they beat a Texan Z-O-line that isn't that great? They beat a Titans O line that is really bad. And Stafford and Puka and Devante found their rhythm

when the Titans started giving the ball away. So I have the same questions you do. Like, I want to be on the Eagles here. I was kind of hoping you'd talk me out of it because I was thinking about once this number got the three at Hard Rock, I was like, we have to, we have to take this. I'm going to, I'm going to bet the Eagles as soon as it gets a three and it'll get there. You know, I'm in Connecticut, obviously. Here's my question. It's partly a joke, partly real.

What would you set the line on the Eagles being called for a penalty on a tush push? Because they will be. Like too much attention, too many calls from McVeigh to the home office, too much film going around about their false starts and whatever they're doing on the tush bush, there's going to be a penalty called on the tush push. The real question is will it be called on the third and one or on a fourth and one? Right. And I'm like saying it jokingly, but I think it, I think there's potential impact here. Will it be called on a fourth and one at the goal line and does that take points off the board?

and that has an impact on the spread and a short in a when the number's so short so i don't know how much i should be thinking about that well both sides are being very petty apparently the eagle sent in film of basically the chiefs just lining up in the neutral zone like the entire time they did it's like all their heads and fingers and hands are in the neutral zone so i think it's just both sides are being so petty i don't know the NFL maybe they'll just let it be as it is and just be like if this is totally on you guys for not voting this play out and we'll deal with it in the off season so i'm with you it's it's this is this is this is this is this This is definitely the highest level of hate that this push push has had from people,

ex-referees and people in major positions of the NFL. So, yeah, it's pretty interesting to see what you're saying is true, where it's like, are they going to call on a third and one, or we'll be fourth and one of the fourth and just totally kill what Chad saying this bet we're making? But yeah, it's going to be interesting what these refs do this week. It's actually a great prop market that somebody should be creating. Like minus 1,000 a penalty gets called, then maybe minus 700 it get called on third and one, minus 500 it's called on fourth and one, minus 300 it's called on third and one at the goal line, minus 200 it's called on fourth and one at the goal line.

How many points will the, what's the over under on how many points the Eagles will lose out on because of penalties called in the tush-bush? you could create an entirely new derivative market on Eagles touch push props. And I'll give one G&Hurt stat here. That's just mind-blown. When he plays against a team about 500 and he's a favorite at home, he is 17-0 in his last 17 games straight up in this exact spot. So now that it's at three, I'm just saying it's how can you not bet the minus three in the Eagles? Of course.

That's kind of stat. It's just it might be ugly. He might win it close, but he just tends to wins these exact games. as he said to Chris Jones right yeah clip Indy got up to four and a half on the road at Tennessee

at Hard Rockets back down to three and a half Wow Yeah I got to tell you Are we feeling regretful Because we were pretty high in the Colts on Tuesday And did we Were we too excited about what we have seen And

did we make a mistake? No, I'm happy we got the three. I think that's where our excitement was, the fact that that's why I love our Sunday night show. We're literally doing live lines after an insane week of football. And that's usually the first or second time me and chat or even seeing these live lines, right? Because they're coming out live while we're on the show.

To me, that's what we were excited about, right? A good initial read. And if you did take the minus three and a half, the pens would stay you live in, that's not that terrible read either, because most books are still four and a half on this line. So to me, the reason you're hesitant about is it's... It's basically not...

Yeah, it's just so public, right? Like, this is when we know all the trends, everything else was going to point to this Tennessee team. And like I gave that crazy stat since 2011, when the winless teams in week three that are divisional dog, when the total is less than 45, 13-0, Tennessee's in there. Tennessee literally fits that trend.

So it's historically a nice spot for this team in week three that, you know, they tend to bounce back. But when you look at the underlying issues, Chad, that's why I can't get over it with this Tennessee team is they cannot stop the run. And Taylor, as great as Daniel Jones's looked, he has, Taylor has been the biggest life force breathing like birthed into this Colts team of

he's got a passing game. Now there's not a safety down in the box. He's running against a normal front. You've seen him explode at that backfield. And the way they're using war and all this stuff on their offense, it's like I can see it carrying. The books are basically set in this line being like, show us. Because we've seen this time of time again,

the time you start 2 and 0 really hot, look incredible. And then fall through against a team that hasn't looked that great in week three, right? That's just football. Like football, being really good three, four weeks in a row. Yes, that's normal for a team. Josh Allen, Lamar, the list might stop right there. Maybe you could say Mahomes, like, when he had the weapons,

but just quarterbacks to be consistent three, four weeks straight, that's what, that's, it just doesn't happen. That's what, that's the difference between these great quarterbacks and ones that are bad. And this number is basically saying that to Daniel Jones. It's like, show us. So the books, professionals alike, they're going to be coming in on that Tennessee side because it is a great spot, a great number. and sure, Colts are going to win.

They're not going to win by more than a field goal is what the books are saying here. So I do find this number fascinating. When it moved over the four and a half, that made sense to me. I can't believe it's come back down. Like to me, four and a half, the professionals would bet it, but you just keep it there the four and a half. The public were still going to take the Colts of four and a half. So pretty interesting, the Hard Rock and a couple other books

that moved it back to three and out. That's really respected money that's moved it down because it's, this is early in the week still Thursday here. Like this is like when they went, all their, you know, bills, teasers, whatever they're doing tonight, all that money's going to come back in on this Colts side. So it could go back up, but if you want the Colts number, I would be shocked to ever see it get back to three. I think minus three and a half right now as low as it gets. What you just said is really interesting about the Titans. There's times

to bet the dogs in the division in a spot almost blindly. We're doing it a little bit with the Texans. We're going to talk about the Broncos too. With the Titans, what's giving me hesitancy, and we talked about this on Tuesday, was Jonathan Taylor against this defensive line and this defense overall that is giving up a league worst 5.4 yards per carry. Shane Steakin is calling good plays right now and understanding how to keep Daniel Jones

within the framework of his comfort zone. Part of that is just giving the ball to Jonathan Taylor at the right time. who's looked amazing. And so that to me is what I'm holding. That's the handrail on the roller coaster for me right now is this rushing game against a really bad Titans rushing defense. That's it.

Yeah. It's like I said, it's just, they're just saying show me, Daniel Jones, because right now he's like statistically the second or third best quarterback in football. Like him against the blitz, all of it. His numbers are incredible. him and Stuyken are just so in line running this offense. So like you said, it's, it's really interesting by the book. They're kind of taking a stand here and the fact that this number is coming back down.

They're feeling pretty confident, clearly. But I'm still believing our position, but like you said, I don't know if I'm making us force this one in. I kind of learned our lesson last week with Dallas that I'm not going to try to force in the super, super chalk favorite of the week. Exactly. Like that's, as I'm thinking about our game plan for Sunday, I'm not loving anyone that's super chalky. And so it's very possible we're in there with five underdogs and we're going to have to live with that.

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I'm kind of riding with you on this. Like I'm riding the trend and I'm riding you. Yeah, because it doesn't feel good to be bet on Boenicks right now for being. No. Like there's a lot of underlying numbers and different things he's doing right now that you see defenses have adjusted to him. But you see the chess match with Sean Payton. He's adjusting back.

And there's some things he hasn't shown either that he's pulled out this year with him and that has obviously kept them in the games and they probably should. should be 2 and 0. Like that's the most interesting part to me. And I think it's all about expectations, right? The Chargers lose. Their starting tackle. Expectations.

People immediately move them out of the playoffs, really doubted them. They go to Brazil, look dominant against the Chiefs team. And then the Raiders, I mean, it wasn't even Herbert's best game, right? He kind of faded that second half.

I think they scored three points. But their defense was so dominant against the Raiders, it's all love for this. Chargers team. Like this is, to me, what we talk about with the peak early in the season here, people think they know these teams. They're, oh, my God, this is it, right? Herbert's finally that guy.

He's got the confidence. He's got the coach. He's got the defense. He's got the offensive weapons. He's putting it all together. It's September. Like, can we just take a beat here? Like, that's why people, the people who are the Herbert Truthers and they act like someone

like me is a Herbert Hater where it's like, I've been. nothing but shown love to this guy and bet him. I love Ben Herbert in certain spots, but it's just too much overreaction to him where it's like people want to crown him so quick because no one doubts the armed talent. We've all seen the talent and how athletic is. No one thinks Herbert isn't one of the best,

most highly talented players in the football. Our knock on him is just the closing out of games and how he isn't late in the games. And against the Chiefs, you saw that killer. Like it was incredible in that second half. He outplayed Mahomes and was the better quarterback in that day. day against the Raiders you saw the fear inconsistent the bad throwing when there was no run game there was just nothing there in the second half like that's why they were so lucky with gino

just having a meltdown my view of this denver team is their defense isn't as bad as people think they just ran into a jugger out with that colts team who they held the five field goals like they only scored two touchdowns now they did score on every job but it's like you know shan pain that defense that's a bender break type of defense that's a that's a win any day if you're having a team that can move the ball, but you're holding them to three every time. That's a big deal. And this is just a bad spot.

Like when I look at it, they are playing a Chargers team that was in Brazil, flew back and then played another primetime game. What was that 10 o'clock at night against the Raiders on a short week? So two weird games, short week in this exact spot, since 2023 teams in this exact spot is playing two prime games. Now they're playing another game, within six days that, you know, isn't that great of a spot.

So they're playing the Chargers playing Denver here. The Chargers are one in seven against the spread in the sack spot or just teams in general since 2023. It shows teams do get burned out, right? That's why I love those type of trends where it shows you that early in the year you here, these teams that play multiple prime time games and now they're on a short week. That is a lot to ask. And we talked about Denver. This is like the dream spot.

They're 0 and 2 against the spread. everyone's left them for dead. Like people that were hyping them up, they're just burned, they're mad. No one's going to be betting them. That's why I was hoping we'd get three and a half three on their show because I'm like, oh my God, I love it. It was going up to three. I think as soon as we got done our show,

I talked a little bit about that. It's like, yeah, yeah. The vibes are just so high for the charges where we know what we're doing here, right? This is another spot. We might be stepping in it, but it's like all the signals are flashing here in this week three, all the trends point to this Broncos team. And then just going on field, their D-line.

I mean, the Raiders have a really good D-line too. Like they obviously dominate on the run. I think you're going to see the same thing here. Like this is going to be a really great front for this Denver team that they got embarrassed last week against this Colts. I don't think you see that again this week. So you've seen it time and time again that this is, tends to be a good spot for these divisional teams.

Like we talked about that trend earlier. And you see just the overreaction for the public where this probably should be closer to, one to a pick, but it's all up to two and a half, three at a lot of books. And that's crossing two key numbers. So very confident in this number in just a long. Another time we talk

about these spots, these early in the year, week three trends, they all point to this Denver team, but just on the field stuff that you want to see and love Chad. I think that really sparks here with this Denver team, this matchup that it's going to be close. It's going to be ugly, but I do think this is peak overrating of this Charter's team. And

two weeks in, this is by a low, as you can get on the Denver team. Just everyone's off of them. And just look at the splits. I'm sure you've seen it. It's just all charters money and tickets as well. Yeah. I'm with you.

I feel pretty good about this one. This feels like it's as much of a lock as we can have for making it into the contest. And I even said, sorry. This is their third straight divisional game, which I, I know people are like, why does that matter? I think it's a big deal because there's division. are so intense because these teams know how much these matter in December. Like these games September, sure, you can say they don't matter when it's out of division. In division, it is such a big deal.

And the data backs it up as well that teams when they play in the last 20 years, teams that play three straight divisional games, they're one in six against the spread in this exact spot, two and five straight up. And they're failing to cover by 10 points in this exact spot. So come on. You just sounded so Philly when you were, your accent was like, and it reminded me, there's a new show on, I think HBO called Task is by the same. Yeah, so good. Dude, it's the same people who did Mayor of Easttown. So my wife and I watched it last night.

And the accents are not to be trifled with. They're so, so good. But we also, before we watched the show, we had to watch the SNL Murder Durger sketch. where they're making fun of Marev East Town. It's so brilliant. It just puts you in such a good mood. But that accent almost becomes impossible to not laugh at because it's so specific.

And you just sounded like you were in murder-dur-dur-land. Listen. Dallas at Chicago. Chicago on Tuesday was a one-and-a-half-point favorite. Now, at Hard Rock, They're one point dogs. Other places, one and a half. You chastised me for not choosing the Bears.

Thank God you didn't. On Tuesday. And I'm glad I waited, brother. This is how much better is hate Caleb Williams. Maybe they hate the Bears defense. You know, the bears are dogs. The world is against my hometown of Chicago. it's time to make the Chicago Bears our brass balls bed of the week.

Look, I'm trying to be reasonable about this. I've sent all the charts about how Caleb is, you know, identical to Josh Williams and his stats through these number of games. To my buddies, to my son. I've ignored the charts. Why do this to yourself? Listen. I've ignored the charts that say he's also identical to Mitch Trubisky

through this number of games in his career. I just don't really get why the number has moved so much for the Cowboys who basically allowed Russell Wilson to have the greatest game of his career. That's what I'm betting on. It's more than Caleb bounce back or anything else. It's the number moved too far. Give me the team that's the dog on the move across the, across zero. Yeah, and it's going to be.

The reason pros love DAC here is going to be, what's something you hate, Jack, because of the trends and all the old data. And like you basically dive in the numbers. This, this is not the best spot for this Bears team. And that's why I think this is our big balls, bet of the week.

Yep. Because it's our brass balls because it's, it's just. Because when you get kicked in the dick, you got to have brass balls. Otherwise it's going to hurt. And it's just a game. I knew,

I knew we were going to love it coming in. Like them as a. a favorite. Obviously, the dog. Now I can't avoid it. Now it's like, I have to love this one. And it's really the fear here, what we're betting into is what Chad talked on, Caleb Williams versus deck. At the end of the day, that's what this game is. That's why people that are not going to, QB's being a win stat. No, there's all these other pieces. No, this is the exact reason wins your QB stat because both these teams are not good. Like defensively, there's weaknesses both sides. offensively, we've seen

that when these quarterbacks can get it together in their systems, they have weapons. Like there is high upside offensively. It's the defenses that give us pause. But I think the Bears defense, I know it's crazy. I think they are better than this Dallas defense. And especially with injuries Dallas sat in. The DAC stuff is what I think anyone out there,

I'll give you the DAC side of this. Why, if you do want to avoid this game, totally understand this is what DAC does. DAC does great against bad teams, right? In his career, he's 39 and 12 straight up, 77% versus teams under 500. So this is technically a DAC spot. He's playing against a bad team under 500. And, you know, when those teams have just lost by more than nine points, Chad,

he's 24 and 6 straight up and 14 and 3 since 2020 in this exact spot. So he beats up on bad defenses, which that's what that stat tells me. like teams that have bad defenses. He beats them up. Caleb's stats are terrifying too. And 1 p.m. starts in his career, Chad. I'm sure you've seen this. I've seen tons of Bears fans posting it.

In his career, he is 0 for 7, losing by 11 points per game in this exact spot. So we are going against all of that because our view of his, this number has moved too much. They were, I believe, minus three on the look ahead. And now it's shifted. Like Chad said, there's books out there plus one and a half. So it's shifted four and a half points.

It's crazy. Crazy. So we're betting on that. We're betting on the overreaction. The lines move too much. Hard Rock is plus one. Go get the one and a half. Get the hook because I could easily see bears up to with 30 seconds left.

And outdoors somehow with the wind of his back, the kicker for Dallas kicks up to 70 yarder. And it's just, you know, Aubrey is the. optimal weapon. Like when I think of special teams guys, so we need that one and a half because when they move to that, I go, oh my God, the books are telling us something six about to happen here. Because honestly, as a favorite,

Caleb's amazing. The trends love him as a favorite in its exact spot. The issue is the numbers flipped and I think it's going to stay flipped. Like the pros have come in now on Dallas as a dog. I don't think it gets back to that. So that's why we're making it our brass ball is we're literally going against the pros here and the public.

We're just back in the here. This is really very few pros are on the side. This is a game where I love it for all the wrong reasons. I maybe be a little too overrated on Caleb. I just think the public is just so overracked into this Bears team. And they just

walk into a bus saw last week where Dallas, they felt like they used up nine of their lives last week. Like, they're just coming off an insane win. You expect a letdown, but I hated all these trends that support DAC versus bad teams. I know I mean, you don't want to say it, but I think

we both know the bears they're a bad team. Simon, there is so much hate for Caleb Williams right now. It almost feels irrational, right? The talk about benching him, the talk about inaccuracies, the level of denigration happening for Caleb Williams nationally. A, I know it's clearly something that everyone's engaging with, right? Otherwise, the big shows wouldn't be doing it. It wouldn't be the topic of conversation across every media outlet unless producers saw some kind of spike when we're talking about bashing Caleb Williams. I don't love this spot for Caleb Williams. I'm actually just betting the number. Like, it moved too much. I'm getting a point and a half for a team that, like you just said, had been a field goal favorite in the look

I had lines, which weren't that long ago. So, like, great. Give me a four and a half point swing. Give me the underdog, one and a half. Kansas City Chiefs at New York Giants, you said at the beginning of the show, wise guys don't like this play. I bet the Chiefs minus five and a half.

After, say, the Packers and maybe the Colts, it could be the chalkiest play of the week. Like, obviously not sharp. Whatever sort of love the pros have for the Giants has been outweighed here by the market love for the Chiefs, because the number has moved in their direction at 6 at Hard Rock right now. I got to stick with it. I've already put my money down. I'm not buying out.

Yeah, for Sharper Square, this is square bed of the week. No doubt about it, this chief side. Do you think it's more square than the Colts? No, because again, we gave it out a minus three. We're not making you take the minus three and a half. The Chiefs at minus five and a half, which is still out there. Like Chad just said at a couple very public books, you must grab. And you must join us in this brutal, brutal loss.

We're about to suffer. But I just see the same thing with, you know, Dallas last week. Like we had no chance of that six, but we did. And it feels the same here of this Chiefs where I just, there's going to be one or two plays that dictates this spread at the end of the day. We always know that. That's football. But this also will easily be Chief Role blowout.

And our fear here is that it's like pros I've talked to is that they just don't have the guns, right? They don't have the guys on the outside, this Chief's team to really blow out and roll these teams. And that's the pause, the hesitation with a number and the six and a half, that's the sharp side. You want to pick a side. You have no dog in this flight yet.

I am with Chad. I'm a supportive friend. I will back them because I also bet it. I bet the five and a half on the Chiefs. But the sharp side, the professional side, they're going to be on the Giants at six and a half just because that's a big number. It's the Sunday night game,

all the parlays, all the teasers, everything is going to be tied to this Chiefs team. There is no world. This Chief's team goes 0 for 3. Maybe me and Chad will have them our survivor, the absolute killer of killers of this Chief's team. Yes. It's a unique spot.

And if we weren't in the year of chalk, these last couple years, but it's just the favorites just always win. They might not cover, but they always win. Okay, the Chiefs will win this one. But, you know,

even five years ago, this was the trap of all traps, this Chief's team, just because... Five years ago, we're not even having... Five years ago... Yeah, it's Giants AutoPlay. Five years ago, it's, okay,

Giants next. Right, right. That's it. So it's trying to adjust for the times here. And on this Thumbar, it's pretty glaring how much money is coming to the chief's team. Because same thoughts we had Sunday night. It's just in what world are the chiefs going over three,

especially against this Kansas City team that you saw on a week one. If they play against a good defense, they're going to struggle offensive. Russell Wilson will not be throwing those 50-50 balls. But yeah, neighbors, he's the ultimate cheat good. So I get it. But the five and a half, it is still out there. I would still grab on the chief team.

I still believe in that number in this side for this chief side. Yeah, it's, you know, Andrew Thomas, by the way, we thought he was sort of the key to why we, one of the reasons why we liked the Cowboys so much last year. He's been active but limited in practice this week. Didn't play last week. It's a big deal, right? So I don't love it. I don't love it. I don't love it as much as I did the other day when I said I loved it.

I'm getting a little skittish. I like I'm already annoyed that I'm going to have to stay up late on Sunday night to watch it. I'm so tired at the end of Sundays. Like I don't know. And this is when you have to watch the end because it's not there's no way this chiefs seem to be rolling by like 25 in the summer. Right, right. Exactly. Like it's going to, but it's going to matter.

And I can already see it. You know, this is what the chiefs do. They're up for with four minutes left and they go into their four minute drill. and, you know, they take it down to 45 seconds, punt the ball. The Giants have, you know, have to score the touchdown. Either nothing happens or there's a turnover, and the chiefs just fall because they're well coached and, you know, ends up being four.

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It's trending down significantly. A lot of public, a lot of sharp money coming in on the Lions. I feel good about the bet that we made at five. and a half and I don't really have much more to say about that. I don't know if you have thoughts, if you feel like it needs to be in the contest. The number moving has sort of changed it for me in terms of this conversation. I just have other games I love more this week that have really jumped out and had better line value.

And my confidence, honestly, in the lines, but it was just really about the line. At some point, you know, especially if the steps to four, I would probably be on this Ravens team where, you know, I, you know, I, still have questions about that lines. I know as great as they looked against the bears. I do have questions. My, my big thing, though, is the reason I'm not signing the table with the Ravens team is can the Ravens exploit that offensive line of Detroit lines. I don't know if they have the guys up front that can really do that. So I like that you brought this game up because the line has moved so much. But yeah, for me, I just, there's no scenario I see us really

break this one down Sunday. I put in our contest. I just, I compare to other games. This game is not on the board really for me, how much I bet compared to other games. All right, well, that's a good transition. What's your biggest bet? Well, this week's a little weird. Like, I always talk, some weeks I'll have like two or three games that I really lock in on. I'm honestly, chat. I'm at like six or seven games that I've, like, that pretty heavy into.

And it's like we talked about it's scary because it's just all these ugly dogs. And like even this tonight, I somehow ended up on this Miami side. I don't know what happened. It's like, how do I, I found like five different tickets to me bet in Miami. at 12 and a half and 12. And it's like, what am I doing? Why am I betting? Why am I doing this?

And like, it's just there's so many dogs this week that it's, they're undervalued. And the numbers just move too much. So, yeah, for this week right now, my biggest bets, I'll start with the grossest one. No one's going to bet it. But Panthers, I got to do it a five and a half six if you can find it. It's just too much. And for me, I've just been betting too much on it where I can't stop betting the Panthers. I just, I don't know.

I just can't get over. This Falcons team just not. I just think they're overrated. I think Pennicks are overrated. So I'm definitely going to eat these words. This Panthers team is not good. They're banged up. Well, another game I'm not going to make us force into our contest

because there's just other games that I bet way bigger on that I like more. Texans is number one. Broncos is number two. We talk about the Browns. You can still find there's one book out there and a half. Bet it been in a pretty heavy. when we get off this call, I'm literally going right down to AC.

I might even go to the Hard Rock and get that Egos minus three. So that might not be another really big bet for me. And I bought out of two positions pretty heavily. I was on 49ers. I bought out of that. I'm on the Cardinals. The Cardinals are up to like plus three at a couple of books.

You know, Hard Rock here is in Jersey. He's got plus two and a half, plus two. And it keeps bouncing around. I think it's going to go up to plus three. three if Purdy does get cleared. I just, I like that number. I know the injuries they have to their secondary and not banged up there, but I just doesn't feel like Purdy is rushing back a little bit here.

And it's like, yeah, he's going to be hobbled, not his full self. And he needs his mobility. So that line jumped out to me just before we go. And the other one we didn't really talk about that I bet pretty heavy into is the Saints. Seven and a half,

I really like it. I've tempered back my betting on it just because I think, I think we might have to have to have, in our survivor pool. Like, we'll talk about it here after this, but I know it sounds stupid at tempered back bets, but I hate being on both sides and, you know, ruin against myself while trying to cover the spread. So I do like the Saints still.

People are going to ask why we didn't really have that one forced in. When it comes to the big dogs, I feel more comfortable taking the Browns at their number. So it's like shop around. I just, my bet on the Saints really is about the number, but I have no confidence in Spencer Rout. I don't know if you've gone back and watched them. For all the good he flashed in their week one again, he just,

it was totally gone last week. There's just some, he's just so bad. I don't think he's ever won a game, right? It has not one again. Right. So, yeah, we can get to survive here. There's just, there's so many options this week's Survivor, and it's, it's making my head spin. I don't know about you.

It is. We're going to get to survive her in a second. We've got to do our round robin under money line. round robin underdog parlay uh texans um Denver Chicago love them we got to put someone a little bit longer in there but I'm not loving the Browns um can what can I get you on the Panthers yeah I can do the Panthers no problem okay because they're me check with our live number is plus 200 that's that's that's good value then we need one more i honestly want coming into the show i wanted to do the rams after seeing that stat by um

about hurts in the exact spot i couldn't get there should we just do it should we keep riding the the bangles train your your love like that's a weird game i we didn't talk about the bangles No. I actually feel great about the Bengals. Do you really? I'm on the Vikings, but I have no read on this game. I just feel like the Vikings. You're probably right.

You know, they've got so many injuries. I know. Forget about Carson Wentz and, you know, is Kevin O'Connell a quarterback whisperer? Who knows? Jake Browning might be awful, though. Like, I know he had good throws and- Jake Browning might be awful. Jake Browning also has the confidence of this team.

And at the end of the end, of the day i don't know he's thrown in jemar chase and jemar chase looks even the worst quarterback look decent that's true and he can overcome turnovers because he's got jimar chase so we're not going to do anything with it but yeah let's put the bangles in yeah all right let's throw them in uh what about our money line round robin money maker the favorite yes so let's let's get chalky well let's go colts all right they might not cover they're winning that game we believe believe in Danny Jones, Indiana Jones and that Colts team. Chiefs.

Chiefs, Eagles, so that's three right there. What are the bucks? Bucks are $3.60 or $7. I don't mind the bucks there. Mine's $3.60? That's, yeah. It's not terrible.

What about we got Colts, Chiefs, Eagles. One more. Bucks. I mean, We're just trying to be safe and win people money. I just, Seahawks don't lose that game. Sam Donald's not losing to the Saints in that spot.

I was thinking Seahawks are Packers. So let's go with Seahawks. Survivor, I agree with you about Seattle. I want to do the Chiefs. The thing is, though, it feels like, oh my God, that could be a primetime fiasco. Yes. And it's the difference is even if the chiefs don't have good matchups later in the year, which they don't, honestly, at least we're getting, we expect a healthy chief's offense at that point.

That will be in some type of rhythm, same with their defense, where the Seahawks, I'm looking at their schedule put up right now. I don't know their easy game we take them again. Like they're at Tennessee on November 23rd. Do we expect that to be a good spot for the Seahawks? Yeah, it's the Seahawks defense. against a rookie quarterback. That's a pretty good matchup. That's another game I could really find for them.

The rest of their schedule, they're at Carolina and the 28th of December. They have a couple of really late ones, but to me, this is the best opportune time for the Seahawks team. They're healthy. Their defense is playing really well, especially to start the season in these last two weeks.

And we've seen the Saints team, the weaknesses. But, yeah, those two jump down. I know we got a lot of questions about the bills, right? a lot of people are taking the bills tonight. I don't hate it. I get it right. I think Josh Allen, what is he some crazy status? Is he 8 and 0 or 7-1 against Tua in his career?

Yeah. He's never lost to him at home. So that's fair. Like, that's a fair time to use the bills. I just, I feel like we could save the bills for later in the season. And, like, I'm just, I don't know when else, again, I would use the Seahawks again. So it's up to you, brother. If you want to go.

Seahawks, that's when I prefer if you, if you want to go the other way and go chiefs, I get it. Because again, I don't think if you have the schedule up for the chiefs, I'm trying to find when we play them again late in the year, they're at Dallas and, you know, what's that, November 27th. They're at Tennessee, the 21st. Look, part of, part of my calculus here is I don't, I don't expect this thing to go into December.

Like, you know, most of these things don't last that long. Well, that's why you never won. As someone who's won them, you've got to do this. We were thinking a long term, babe. We're going to win this thing, Chad. Don't have doubt yet. No, I don't have doubt. I'm just saying like I'm not too.

I'm not that worried about saving for, for, I'm not worried about saving for week 16 or 17 when we're getting into the end of December. Like I want to save for week 13, week 14, which is around Thanksgiving. You have to try, that's why I had to weed out which one to take here. Because we like all, I mean, I think we all like, like three of these. We like the bills. We like the chiefs. We like, we like the Seahawks.

So yeah, I'll leave it up to you, whatever one you want to go. Because you let's go with Seattle. Let's do Seattle. Seahawks. All right. Sharp versus Square. This is not a good run for me right now. Who would you like to take? Oh, God. I can't double down. I honestly would probably go Denver again. I just feel like that's such a sharp side. I'm going to go the other sharp side in my picture. any Texans. All right. Plus one and a half or plus one,

whatever Hard Rock is. Okay. Man, I don't know if I should be on the Browns. Or do I want the Eagles at the minus three? That's a nice number. At Hard Rock? As someone that's terrified of your picks, I do want you to stay away from my Eagles in the Sharper Square.

I'm not going to lie. You do. I am due. Yeah. I'm taking the Eagles. I've wanted to be on the Eagles all week. If this is the best I'm going to get for minus three, I'm taking the Eagles minus three. Let me quickly round up what we're pinpointing for Sunday.

Make sure we're on the same page for that conversation. I think we're going to have to have a conversation about the Browns just based on the number of games that we have that we're both sort of aligning on. the Browns, the Texans, the Eagles, Denver, those feel like four that we're locking in on. And then it's the Colts. It's the Bears. And that's kind of it. It feels like we've narrowed it down to six and we're going to have to choose a final one. Am I missing anyone?

Yeah, Patriots. We'll see how we feel. Oh, yeah, that's right. Like, that's right. Again, I'm, I've been in the books all weekend. I'll have a stronger opinion about it. But like right now, I'm, I'm really dug it on those spots. I'm hoping I can talk to people that talk me off some of these lines.

Because I'm like, I feel like this is a really good week. I love so many of these games. And I guess the general public, that's terrifying to someone like me. It's like, this is really exciting. These are, you look for these weeks, these opportunities. And, yeah, it just, it's the best, right? We all overreact so much the first two weeks. and all the numbers coming out.

And that's why I love betting football. It's the more you know, the less you know. That's the best part of what we do here. All right. We'll be back. This has been Sharp or Square part of the volume podcast network. We will be back on Sharper Square YouTube on Sunday morning as you eavesdrop on a very intimate conversation

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