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Episode Date: September 25, 2025

Another beautiful week of NFL action is upon us! And that means veteran NFL bettor Chad Millman is joined by his closest friend and pro sports gambler Simon Hunter to narrow down their best bets for NFL Week 4. They look at their favorite matchups on the board on a quest for five top picks against the spread for their weekly NFL contest.  PLUS, we hear the long-awaited return of Sharp Calls, where Simon recaps the angry calls he's received from fellow professional gamblers. Games covered today include Thursday Night Football, Baltimore Ravens vs Kansas City Chiefs, New Orleans Saints vs Buffalo Bills, LA Chargers vs New York Giants, Indianapolis Colts vs Los Angeles Rams, Cleveland Browns vs Detroit Lions, Philadelphia Eagles vs Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Sunday Night Football, Monday Night Football, and more. We also hear Round Robins, Simon's biggest bets of the week, moneyline favorites, survivor pool picks and so much more. #Volume -- All lines provided by Hard Rock Bet 0:00:00 - Start 0:06:00 - Sharp Calls 0:08:00 - Seahawks-Cardinals 0:11:00 - Chargers-Giants 0:17:30 - Eagles-Bucs 0:21:00 - Commanders-Falcons 0:24:30 - Browns-Lions 0:33:00 - Saints-Bills 0:36:00 - Colts-Rams 0:40:00 - Jags-49ers 0:46:00 - Ravens-Chiefs 0:51:00 - Bears-Raiders 0:54:00 - Packers-Cowboys 0:56:00 - Jets-Dolphins 1:01:00 - Biggest Bets  1:02:00 - Round Robins + Survivor  All lines provided by @hardrockbet Subscribe to Sharp or Square for gambling advice, best bets, and predictions from sports betting experts Chad Millman and Simon Hunter. Follow on all platforms:  https://www.instagram.com/sharporsquare/ https://x.com/SharporSquare_See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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This is the betting show that makes the squares sharper and makes the wise guys. Pay attention. I am Chad Noman. I am joined by my co-host, my BFF, my companion, my. Mike, confide, professional better, Simon, Hunter. Hello, Simon. Chad, I know a lot of our fans, what we say, their favorite time of year is that, you know,

end of May, early June, right? There's all the sports, horse racing, golf, everything, all the playoffs are there. For me, this is it. I'm a baseball guy. This has been an incredible week of baseball. The last three days, honestly, baseball have been incredible.

And I'm watching hockey preseason. A little NBA preseason football is on, obviously, as well and I'm just like, man, I think this is my, this is my time of year for sports. I just love this whole spot. And yeah, just really, again, diving in the lines this week. I'm just appreciative of life and what we get to do for life. And yeah, hopefully these these games are some winners for us. Dude, I'm not going to lie to you.

It is, I feel so lucky not to get sappy that we get to do this show. And this is part of our daily process. And when I woke up this morning, I'm like, all right. I get to talk about betting on football. And the reason I've even thinking about it is because, you know, this is our Thursday. We four episode. We're going to narrow down our options on our quest to find five picks we agree on for the week. Reminder, subscribe, Sharper Square on YouTube, Apple, Pod, Spotify.

But the reason I say this is because I'm in the city right now. I'm at my mother-in-law's apartment, recording live from my mother-in-laws apartment. I will tell you, I was at a party last night in the city, you know, one of those media, you know, Shindigs, lots of really impressive, powerful folks. And a bunch of people who happened to listen to and watch the show were asking me about some of the picks from Tuesday show. And then when I ran down, I was talking to one guy, I'm running down like, yeah, I'm on Detroit, yeah, I'm on the Chargers, yeah, I'm on the Niners.

Yeah, I put a little taste, not a full unit, but a little taste on the bills. I started to get really, really nervous. And it honestly feels like, now that we're going to be. we're 40 hours beyond that show. We are on the opposite side of all the professional, conventional wisdom. I won't say professional betters, but certainly conventional wisdom.

So, Simon, let's get into this thing. And I'll say this right now with joy in my heart. Back by popular demand from all the old heads who have been tweeting at us and saying in the YouTube comments, it's time for sharp calls. Yeah, let's dive right into the games they love with us. Sharp calls. Right off the top, Tampa.

I think I knew that was going to be professional side. Honestly, I'm shocked, we haven't gotten the three. I really did think that the three and a half was going to be a gift and it was going to disappear and just go back to three with the injuries the Eagles have and the Tampa getting guys back. But luckily, we're on the professional side there. the pros actually love Carolina, which I know this game we haven't talked much about.

I'm trying to avoid it. Yeah, me too. I got away with it last week in Carolina. I wanted to be on the Patriots. The number is egregious. I'm just avoiding it. I know a lot of pros, though, like that panther side. Detroit, the game we're on, pros love it.

Like every guy I talked who loved it eight and a half. They've been taking it at nine, taking it at nine and a half. So I think our view of it, getting under 10, that was the key. Chiefs. I know again, we're going to dive into the pros love. Cowboys, the pros love, same side of Burron. And you know, last but not least,

that Rams game, shocking. I thought it was going to be all pros on the cold side. A lot of pros are joining us on that Ram side. Interesting. A lot of love for our picks, what they hate for us. Talk to a lot of pros that like the commanders, a lot of guys that love the Saints, a lot of guys that love the Seahawks,

and a lot of guys that really, really love that matchup for that Jets team. I just can't get there. So, yeah, interesting back and forth, a lot of professionals this week about different sides, but I knew they would be on for sure for the Chiefs and the Bucks. The other games honestly surprised me just because they are such chalky favorite. So, yeah, I'm excited to dive into this week and all these lines

and kind of get into these ones. All right. Well, there's one game they didn't mention, which I thought for sure you would say that they're on the opposite side of us, and we're going to talk about that in a minute. But first, let's talk about Thursday. night just quickly because you mentioned they're on seattle and we've liked Arizona since sunday night we were waiting for Arizona to get to plus numbers and it did on Tuesday they were at minus one and a half now they're a plus one and a half I want

to pull the trigger on Arizona I can't figure out why I'm not and it's like is it because I don't trust Kyler Murray help me get over the hump here my model is completely flashing green for the Cardinals. Just because historically, the Seahawks have one here. It doesn't matter who their quarterback has been, who the coach has been, what their defense has been. For some reason, the Seahawks have owned the Cardinals in this matchup. And I think your hesitation for both of us is just we think the Seahawks are a better

team right now. And health does matter. Short Weeks does matter. But I'm like you. I can't avoid it. It's Kyler Murray as a dog. I've said it years ago. I don't care.

no matter what, I take him as a dog, even when he has a bad matchup and his offensive lines banged up and everything. It's just all negative. And I hate it because it's making me like Arizona even more. But I'm not going to put in our contest. I know that for sure. But I'm still on the same side. I was looking for ways to get there on Seahawks. And I just can't get there right now with this team that last year, I mean, last week, I should say.

We were on for Survivor and it was the dream scenario. But Chad knows. Like anytime a team wins by 30, and now they're facing a team on a short week on the road, it's just historically isn't a good spot. So the trends don't love the Seahawks either. The only trends I like the Seahawks is simply their matchup with the Cardinals. So, yeah, we can keep it moving. Not a game on a force, and I am on the Cardinals, but there's no way I can talk myself

to putting this in the contest. I don't want to walk away from it for one sec sec secs because I just want to get to, why would I like the Seahawks or the Cardinals better on the field? Like, the Seahawks are so much more dominant right now. they're amazing defensively. I'm still not quite sold on Sam Darnold. He hasn't necessarily had to win them a game, the way their defense and running game has been winning them a game,

you know, against the Steelers. And then last week was just sort of a trouncing. Is that why, like, what am I liking on the field here? I have no read of it. I think the Cardinals are well coached and they play hard. Like their defense with all their injuries, they played really hard. well last week. To me, I think

our hesitation just is Kyler. That's, the end of the day, that to me is the issue. We're just, we don't trust him. That's why I just bet him as a dog, where it's like, I don't try to overthink it. He covers as a dog. As a favorite, he is just atrocious. So he's a dog. This is usually the games he type of games he covers.

All right. One of the games that I'm surprised the wise guys didn't bring up in the conversation here is the LA Chargers are now six and a half point favorites against the Giants. This took a lot of our attention on Tuesday. Too much, honestly, because while I was loving the Chargers at six, it moved to six and a half

before I could grab it while we were talking about it on the show. And it remained the pick that I love. Chad loves the Chargers. I got it at six and a half. It's steady at six and a half. As we were talking, it was announced that Jackson Dart was going to take over for Russell Wilson. Look, there is a lot of love right now for the Giants' defensive line and what they were able to do against Patrick Mahomes and make him uncomfortable and the real failings for the

giants where their inability on offense to execute, take advantage of situations, score points. My feeling on this is the whole Jackson Dart thing is a sort of is a classic media parroting the organization's talking points. Like you listen to Collinsworth, talk about Chris Collinsworth, talk about Jackson Dart on Sunday night. And you'd think he had this swagger and talent of Joe Namath, right? The way that they just sort of said, and way he walks in and gets the guys together and he works so hard and, you know, his athletic ability.

Is this not a guy who was, like, who snuck into the bottom of the first round to a team that passed on him at the top of the draft? Like, is the expectations that the Chargers do not know how to defend against a quarterback who can run like, I don't know, Patrick Mahomes, is the expectations the Giants Pass Ross will just dominate the Chargers injured offensive line? What are the wise guys if they are betting on the Giants and you didn't mention them seeing that should make me uncomfortable

because I still love this pick? Yeah, I would say to Connsworth, he's a man in his 70s or I don't know if he's in his 80s, but I think he's in the 70s. He's not in his 80s guy. Come on. unedible. So anyone, him probably seems cool. No, he's not. I think he is, man. Some of the stuff he says, you're just like, there's no way this guy is sober. That's why I think a lot of people in sports come on. But yeah, I just, Dart is the unknown. So maybe that's why people love them. But

for me in this game, like, I'm going to support you, even though back-to-back weeks, you've taken the same team against the Giants. And I get your logic and your reasoning. It really was baiting this bad team against superior talent, and that's what the charges are. The superior talent against a bad team that's, you know, not properly coach. The fear here, the reason pros aren't talking about this one is just because we don't know what we're going to get.

Dark could come out and with his legs or whatever, have a good game, even though he's not that good, right? Because there's no tape. It's just going to be a very simplified offense for him to run. But I'm still on your side, even though the pros are talking, I'm still on your charger side. There's still sixes out there. You can grab the sixes.

I mean, Hard Rock's at six here in Jersey. I know that you've got six and a half. They've been fluctuating all day. So there's clear professional money on the giant side, while the public is, they're like us. They're going to be heavy on the chargers. All the teasers every money on parlay. I know people are talking about them survivor.

So, yeah, this to me is, don't ever think it. It's horrible. That defense against a rookie quarterback in his first start. It's Herbert against the bad defense. And I think I saw some crazy stat. Basically, when he's a favorite above three and a half, Herbert, I think he's 11 and O against the spread. So it's like I talked about it,

he just beats up on bad teams. That's what Herbert's whole career, even when he's had horrible coaching, you get him against a bad defense, he beats him up. So I'll keep supporting your brother. If we get this one in, five and a half, six and a half in our contest, either number, I probably wouldn't mind put it in.

my only fear is dart having that first start miracle pulling a rabbit out of his ass kind of game where it's like i can't believe it me and you by the end of the day i'd be like i can't believe he somehow covered it just because i don't know they move the ball against his chargers team if they just double neighbors i just don't know how they do it so excited to see what they're going to do read option they're going to do something funky with him and his running um because his comp i know it sounds weird his comp coming out was jalen hurts the way he runs with the ball how tough is his throwing style. So yeah, we'll see.

It's going to be definitely a game that went from being corner TV through one of my main four games, most likely. Oh, brother, this is totally going in the four box. A hundred percent going in the four box. I can't wait for this game. I'm probably going to be sick to my stomach watching this whole game. Because I also hate those 1 p.m. games from the Meadowlands. It's like you're watching it, you know, in a house of worship.

It's so freaking quiet early in those games. it feels like everybody is just waking up. So, yeah, this is a, we're taking a stand. We've seen a lot of changes the past couple of years. We've seen favorites covering more and more and more. Good teams beating bad teams, bad quarterbacks not being able to execute. Bad coaches not being able to get their teams paired, really good coaches. This is a coaching matchup, mismatch.

This is a quarterback mismatch. The Chargers defense as a whole, I think, is better than the Giants defense, even though their defensive line is elite. Last week was the game, the Browns, And the Packers were like, if the Browns don't cover as eight and a half point underdogs with an elite defense, we're never betting underdogs at home in this spot again. But I do think this is season. We're still seeing a trend where you want to bet the better team.

I know it's dangerous. I still like the Chargers. Philadelphia, Tampa Bay. Let's get back to a more traditional professional position. Tampa Bay, three and a half point underdog. You mentioned it. The wise guys love it. This was Simon says.

Look, the bucks are riddled with injuries on the offensive line. They don't have Mike Evans. But reports are Tristan Worf's may play at left tackle for the bucks. Chris Godwin may be back for the bucks from that injury. A mecca abuka just seems to get better literally every snap. I like this because I think the bucks and Baker are just perpetually undervalued. And the Eagles are perpetually overvalued. So there's always going to be a little bit of value.

The matchups, Eagles have injuries too, but I think you're just getting a little bit of a better value here. Yeah, I disagree somewhat with that stand. I think that the Eagles were undervalued after their week one performance against Dallas. Rightly so, should have lost that game. And since then, covered two straight. And they're another team that we said. They could easily be 0 and 3, but now the public is totally coming around on them.

and they bet this number up. So this is a type of game where it feels two and a half, wouldn't be that confident. It's all about the number here with this Bucks team in Baker because it is a bad spot for Baker, right? He's covered three straight games with three straight fourth quarter comebacks that, how long can you keep this up, right?

It's like there's only so many times you can ask him to make those type of game winning drives, but my view of it is just this is the type of game that the Bucks do play close, right? A really talented team that they have the guys that can stop, the tush push. This is one of the few teams they got a guy like Vita Vee

that can stop this type of play. And that's a big deal when that Eagles team relies so heavy on it for a certain spot. So yeah, could the Eagles attack this secondary with Hertz and you know, really open this game up, sure? But he's going to have to do it. The whole, they're going to sell out just like

every their team's been doing it so far, stopping Barkley, and they're the perfect team to do it. They just don't allow 100-yard rushers. So bad match for the Eagles team. They have their own injuries, right? They might be down their number two, number three cornerbacks. Both linebackers, I mean, John Campbell came in today with a sleeve on his arm

and I believe, I forget who else, someone had a brace on their knee. It might have been Zach Braun, like the other linebacker. They had a brace on his knee. The Eagles are banged up. Like, they just went through a battle. So they're just like the bucks.

They're equally banged up and not as healthy. So it's shocking how much love the public has for the Eagles team where I think the game temperature, field temp's supposed to be like 105 and this historically has just been a bad spot for the eagles eagles haven't lost in a year the last time they lost was this buck's team and you see it with baker he's not the best as a favorite he's kind of like keiler in this sense that as a dog especially since he's been the buccaneers he's been an auto play where it's like he just even when he loses those games as a dog he always keeps them close like the back door is always open so um to me with the hook three

and a half. I can't avoid it. Love the number so much. Love, love this match for Baker and God, God, if Godwin can come back, I'm almost positive he's going to come back with Worth. That's going to be so huge. Having him and a book on the outside, like you just, you need someone that Quinn and Mitchell can focus on, then you're going to

beat the Eagles without second receiver. That's truly the biggest weakness of this defense that they just cannot figure out. Now, you're bringing guys up for the practice squad to maybe pick that position and take on Chris Godwin. So, yeah, I love this matchup. I love the matchup as well for Bucky Irving coming out of the backfield.

So to me, make the line two and a half. It's still three and a half. Call some key numbers here. I just, once again, if it's three and a half for our contest, I'm probably going to force Chad to take it Sunday. I just heavily bet this one. I really love this number. I don't think you're going to have to force me.

I've already bet it at the worst number. I bet it at three. So I don't feel like there's going to be any arm twisting on this where we've talked about the chargers. That was my Chad loves pick. We've talked about the bucks. That was Simon says. I want to bring up Washington.

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Washington at Atlanta, Atlanta's down to one. Atlanta opened at three on Sunday. This was the first game I bet on Sunday. It's the first game I talked about on the Sunday night show. I actually bet Atlanta thinking, that Jaden Daniels was going to be playing, actually not really knowing if he was going to be playing, but expecting him to be playing. And so we don't know yet.

He said it's up to the doctors. He practiced. The line is moved in the Falcons direction. Like the CLV to me is saying if we can get the Falcons at a more beneficial number in the contest. and it's a team that just came off a blowout and was shut out. The trends, hashtag trendsetter, are all going to be in our favor for the Falcons.

Are we going to have to put the Falcons in so we don't have four favorites and an underdog? Again, it's a week-to-week league. I have no issue having a ton of favorites this week. That's least in my worries. But there's a 90% chance that I refuse to put in with the Atlanta team. I just, the panic stuff, man. And he's not good.

And like I keep saying, he's very young. I don't want to judge him too hard because he needs time. He just needs starts. He needs reps. And he needs to play against different style of defenses. So I just can't get there at Pennix. Like you said, this is an amazing spot for Atlanta. Typically, you know, a team that gets rolled like that.

And now they're a dog at home against potential a quarterback coming off a serious injury. That seems like he's rushing him back a little bit. It's just a weird spot to be back in the commander. So I think your read is right. I mean, your initial read on the three was spot on. Like, that was a great number. Anyone out there that has the three, you don't need to touch or watch this game anyway.

Yeah. Have a great closing line value in whatever, but I don't know if I can get there. I just, I've gone back and watched the Pennix tape, and he's got issues. And as you see these defenses get more tape on them, it's going to be interested to see how he progresses through his career because there's not many lefties in the league. And I know that's a stupid thing, but like there's certain drops and certain throws he makes where it's like, is this why?

There's no lefties. Because this guy the exact reason why, or is it just a fluky thing that there just aren't that many left-handed quarterbacks? But he's just been unlucky to me in a couple of ways. And now in this matchup, you expect, after getting embarrassed, you know, Rahim Morris and this defense to bounce back, they should play better Atlanta. So I get where Chad's coming from here. I just, I have no confidence right now. quarterback and I just have major questions where Washington even though he's banged up Daniels this is the exact team he dominates like a bad team indoors on turf so it's if he was

fully healthy there's no way I would touch Elena but what the question marks if it is Marriota and if we are able to get the early number right if we can get two and a half against Marriota plus two and a half is a land as a dog I can be talked into a chat for our contest maybe but at this number no way it's it's moved too much this is start quickly becoming a Andrew's number, in my opinion. We'll see what we get on Sunday. This could be in the conversation. You're great.

That's like 10 games I like more than this one. Okay, well, that's a strong statement. Cleveland at Detroit, we owe people of brass balls. I wonder if we should have a conversation about Detroit. It's minus nine as a brass balls game. I love the brash balls. I love Detroit. All right, so then let's do it.

Detroit Lions, minus nine. They're going to be our brass ball. better the week. You know what it takes? It takes brass balls. And I'm pretty sure I just scared the bejesus out of every 87-year-old neighbor of my mother-in-laws on either side of the walls in her apartment. This has been a wacky line because we saw it in real time on Tuesday. I went to bet this right after we recorded the show.

It had been at eight and a half. I convinced myself the lines were the right side. The Browns had their moment in the exact right spot under perfect conditions against the Packers. When I went to bet the game seriously, in the time it took me to log into one of the sports books, it had moved from eight and a half to nine, painted across the board. And then, Simon, you and me were on the phone after the recording, after I had made the bet. It moved back down to eight and a half. And then it got back up to nine and a half.

And now it's back down to nine. So clearly there's You know Some people who are finding the threshold for where they want to bet The Browns and some people finding the threshold for where they want to bet the Lions I'm still thrilled about betting the Lions I think this is such a good spot for them Yeah, I love them

And another game where you dive in the trends You're like what's the bad part of this Lions team is this big of a favor That's what I'm trying to find here because it's another line that it feels like again, sometimes you're just seeing the field clearly and you're reading the lines, right? And this is another game, though. I just didn't get why it wasn't 10. Now it is 10. Like one of the more public books in all of America is at 10.

So I assume most of their books will follow that way. But the trends are interesting, right? Our guy Evan Adams had an amazing trend about this exact spot with Dan Campbell. So he basically, when they have an absolutely insane blowout, right? They beat a team last week by six plus points. They're 22 and 6 against the spread the following game. after they blow a team out, they just keep it rolling. Yeah, they liked to, Ben Johnson said this the other day.

Someone asked him after the Bears got destroyed by the Lions, was he annoyed that they didn't kick a field goal? And he said about the Lions, they scored touchdowns. That's what they do. Again, it's just predicates to what Dan Campbell is, right? This is all stats under Dan Campbell. So they win by six, the next game is 22 and 6. If they went by 7 plus, they're 1905.

the game after against the spread. So it's like when they get rolling like this, when the offense is clicking, they just steamroll teams. They don't take the foot off the gas, right? Dan Campbell likes it when the team is rolling like that. He doesn't want to slow it down. So we talked about it.

There's ways to neutralize this front four of the Browns, and that is going to be really interesting here because they are arguably the greatest run defense we've ever seen. When you look at the stats, what they've done through three weeks against, really good run team. I mean, Josh Jacobs stud, Derek Henry stud. Even

week one, Jace Brown with Broo, he's pretty good. Like when he was healthy with Burrow, they shut him all down. So I can't wait. Like this is arguably the best running tackle of football, the hammer and the nail of the one-two punch of Gibbs and Montgomery. So I love it. I think we're on the same

page that, you know, might be a little scary here in the very beginning, but as the game goes along, I love the idea of a big win here for this lion's team we've done this with the lions before i think a year or two ago we bet them at minus 14 it might have been against the jags and that someone whoever it was they came out to a 10 nothing lead and then the lions rolled and all of a sudden it was like 55 10 um that's what the same boat it's always scary betting these big spreads because we see how it can go a million

different ways right golf has the off day we're dead but yeah historically have no fear people dan campbell in this spot it's been pretty proud over the last couple years. And he backed it up last week with that Ravens spell. Like Chad said, they blew out the bears. They came out and they laid it on that Ravens team. So they're just, they're cruising.

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I took the 16, but what do we really do with this? Like, are we confident of putting this in the contest? Like, I know there are true. friends, home team, 16 plus point favorites since 2015, 16 and nine against the spread, 22 and 3 overall. We know the bills will be everyone's survivor pick. By the way, that was from killer sports. But it's still a huge number. And we know the bills have an injured defense. And we know that if they get up big, they could just end up bleeding the clock. So I don't know it's a contest play for me. I still like the bills. I didn't do a full unit on this game,

but I think I think I want to be on the bill's side here. Yeah, I bet this. I bet the bills I'm like you. I was never going to have this in the contest. I just I can't have any confidence in that bill's defense. This is really a Josh Allen bet and a fate of Spencer Rattler who just looks so bad and inconsistent where sure he might get him down there. How many touchdowns are they really going to score right? And that will be interesting part where, um, They've just been settling for so many field goals in this Kallimore offense. Do they just start getting super aggressive and stop kicking the threes and start going for the touchdown? So just a historical spot for Josh Allen, not great.

As a 10-point favorite in his career, he's 6, 10, and 2 against the spreads, so 30% in this exact spot. So it's just not something I'm banging table for it. It's really about the number and how bad that Saints team is that. I'll probably be more in on backing them at home, but these type of scenarios, back-to-back, really tough road teams flying across the country, then flying again up back up north. It just feels like a horrible spot for the Saints team against, you know, a Bill's team that's

on extended rest, and it'll be interesting to see what that defense is like that they've had had more times if they've gotten any of these guys back. But yeah, if they're fully healthy at Oliver's and all that, I would have loved this spot for this Bill's team, but they just, they have so many injuries. It's just you can't ignore it. There are ways for the Saints team to attack it if they have the right stuff going that day. So I'm glad we're on the same page. Well, we're bedded. No way mixed to our contest.

I mean, we might be eating some square soup on Sunday. Can't always bet dogs, Jed. I'm just saying we are we are square. Quentin Tarantino reservoir dogs. My biggest that's the truth this week is I just love the home teams. That's what I found my like that's why I'm happy you're like all on the chargers and um, you know, I, I just needed some road team for us in our contest where it's like I, that was my biggest thing I I know it right away. I was like, I love the home teams this week, which is very random.

Speaking of home teams, Indianapolis at the Los Angeles Rams, the Rams are three and a half point favorites. We've kind of just been hoping this would get to three. It hasn't gotten there. It did for a second, which was crazy because I was like, oh, it's happening. And it stopped, Chad. It went right back to three and a half. I didn't even see.

When did it happen at like two in the morning? No, no, normal time, like midday. Because just, again, people, you can set alerts on your phone for different. and things like this on apps I shall not mention. And it will tell you when it moves. So yeah, I got an alert right away. Try to send a runner to go better for me and literally 10 minutes later it's gone. So that's, Chad's right.

This is going to stay, I believe, at three and a half. The professional. It actually looks like it might move to four based on the price, based on the juice. Okay. I didn't see that. Yeah. Yeah, I guess you're right. I'm looking at it right now.

Yeah. That's a possibility. I love the ramps. And we've already talked about it. it's we're selling a little bit on the Colts team we do we love it I've I'm a big believer been betting them every week it feels like and um this is that type of game just like the chargers last week like you win this I got to start making big changes and big updates like I haven't moved the model enough to respect this Colts team but I can't help but get over

and look at who they played right like a Miami a Denver and a Tennessee team And it's easy early in the year here to get sucked in on these teams that look so well against bad teams just because the way the schedule breaks. Where you have really good teams playing against other really good teams who still don't know who they are. And it's like, well, this team looks sloppy. They don't look good. They don't look disciplined. So like looking at my mind, it's crazy how much higher I have Colts rated than these other teams that would shock people. But in this exact spot, I still think this should be closer at what I opened at four, four and a half.

Like when I first saw that opening line, I was shocked by it. But the more you dive into it, it's like this Rams team, they usually beat up on teams like this Colts team that, you know, have a struggling secondary that can be passed on. Even Bo Nix was moving the ball against this Colts secondary. So, yeah, I look at this matchup, very favorable for this Rams team. My biggest fear question is, how does this Rams defense slow down Daniel Jones and Jonathan Taylor?

because they are real problem right now. Like the best, arguably the best one-through combo. Football, quarterback, running back. Just he's incredible right now. Daniel Jones against the Blitz. But like I said, it's going to be interesting how well he did against his other defense. Where Denver is legit, what we talked about was a bad spot for Denver. How can he perform against a Rams team that is going to be very hungry, is going to be desperate?

And, you know, we've seen that stat this Rams team. They were 9-0, their last 12 games. their only three losses were against that Eagles team. So this is a team that has been playing really well. We're getting probably a little bit of a discount here because of a fluky blocked field goal that. If they won, probably stays at 4 and a half. Maybe the professionals do put it up to 5.5.

I was going to say, it might get higher. Yeah, it could because like I told you, that professionals I've talked to, they're like us. They like the Rams here. But there is pushback. I do need some pros that they're not getting off the Daniel Jones train yet. They just think him running this stike in their, Shanahan type of offense is just working for this Colts team right now.

So I know, me, Chad, went the three, but I'm glad to say a three and a half because that's what's going to be in our contest. So that's what I've been betting all week. It's one of my bigger bets. I'm going to stick with it. Ends up being in our contest. I got no issue with it. I just, I got to trust the Rams in this spot, in this matchup and sell an overvalued Colts team. And just hope they cool off because we've seen enough football.

Sometimes it takes five, six weeks for these teams. they're really actually cool. So you might be stepping right in front of this Colts train, but I got to do it with this number. I feel the same exact way as you do. I would have no hesitation with this one at all. And I might end up betting the three and a half today. I'm trying to be really, really impatient.

What's that? A hard place. It's going to rock. Well, look, I was going to, we can do that. We can make this the rock and the hard place, hard rock bed of the week. I think we have two other games coming up, Jacksonville, San Francisco,

in Baltimore, Kansas City that can fill that too. So I think we should focus on those. So let's leave Rams minus three and a half. I don't think it's a hard spot because we actually both love the Rams. Right. You know what I mean?

Yeah, that's fair. Jacksonville at San Francisco. San Francisco's still at minus three. No Nick Bosa. Schaefter did say Purdy has a good chance to play. Adam Schaefter said he had a good chance to play earlier this week. Simon, I don't know about you, but you said on Tuesday,

you wanted to watch film of Brock Purdy in practice. I watched two minutes and 50 seconds of Brock Purdy practicing on YouTube to some very calming, ethereal music that was the soundtrack. I saw him take snaps and drop back. I saw him in the shotgun. I saw him throw a couple of bombs. I saw him do one throw where he was running straightforward and sort of throwing off of one foot.

but he looked brilliant. I know. So clearly he's totally fine because we are internet doctors. The line has moved in that direction. It did move to three and a half. It might be three at Hard Rock right now, but I do think there's mostly three and a halfs out there. I'm glad I got the Niners at three

because I feel really good about the bet right now. Yeah, even three and a half, again, I can't believe. I just love these home truck favorites, So it's like another line I trust with this team and this matchup. And the pretty thing's bizarre because they made it as if his toe was like hanging off his foot. And it was going to be three, four weeks of an injury. And it's like set out one game. And like Chad said, he was moving.

You could not tell he was ever injured. He looked the exact same as he did in early August when he was fully rested and healthy. So I'm with Chad. As a doctor, fake doctor, I don't know what to make of it. I couldn't believe how good he looked. And that's like you just said, That's why the number to me it has moved. It feels like why would they sit them?

If he's moving like that, if he's looking like that in practice on a Tuesday and a Wednesday, why would you sit him for Mac Jones that, you know, as good as Mac played last week, right, leaving that comeback drive, you saw it. It's like it's, it is Mac Jones. He has a backup quarterback. Purdy is just a totally different level. And, you know, my question here is Trevor Lawrence versus solid defense. I know Nick Bosa is now out.

It feels like that. But to bet on Robert Salah, that's what we're doing. It honestly is. It's also, I mean, it's a bit on pretty, but it's been on Salah in the sense of these matchups that, you know, it's never been good for this Jaguars team, right? We can look at the data. I think it's the last 20 years.

Whenever they're traveling from the East Coast to West Coast, they're three and 13 straight up, three and 12 against the spread in this exact spot. So this is historically a Jaguarian doesn't travel well. And that I think honestly says a lot about Trevor, where it's like, even going through his career, his offense has come out slow in these exact type of games, where it's like they, whatever it is getting off the plane, whatever that old saying is like

that one team looks like they're coming out, shot out of a can. The Jags never look like that in this exact spot when they go on the road, especially after a win. So I look at this as, once again, a team that Jaguars could be very good offensively as a season progressives. I just see that Trevor's having problems learning this offense. I know he's been. burned by the drops right i think he yeah i think he's a huge amount of drops yeah like they lead the league in drops right now i don't know if that's going to be a quick fix and especially when you're going against a matchup against a solid defense that you know even with their injuries their defense has been swarming and really good against these receivers so yeah it's uh more chalk

another spot where it's a home team i love and um yeah hard rock still minus three go grab because i do think pretty gets cleared this gets up to three and a half four by game time. So it's all about line value. Still, if you're stuck in a state that you'll get minus three and a half, I'd still take it. Like, I still think that's a good price on this number. Have this game closer to four.

So it gets to four and a half and you haven't made a bet. Yes, you can take a position of the Jaguars. I just, I wouldn't do it. I just have major questions about this Jaguars team that they feel very, very fortunate to be two and one, but also another team that could easily be three-nows. So a really weird team to try to get a read on this year, this Jaguars team, but I think me and you're on the same page,

before nine is we know we're getting from this defense right now the only only true unknown is the purdy injury we both agreed he looked well in practice uh i can't abide when you're giving me a trend from the jaguars that is 30 years in the making you know that doesn't mean anything 20 years in the making it doesn't mean anything to you to the history to logic i'm with you I think Trevor Lawrence is trash. He'd taken his army right into that Russian winter. That who's Chad is? Chad would say, who cares what happens in the polling?

Who cares what happened to the Germans? We go into Russia. I don't care what happened 30 years ago. History matters, Chad. Learn history. Oh, my God. That is a ridiculous analogy. It's not.

You're the same person that just says, well, these things don't matter. I haven't 20 years. No, it matters. It's all connected, brother. Well, figure it out. One way or the other, we want to, to be on the same side here.

And either you're gonna be proven right with your historical, irrelevant correlation, not causation references, or we're gonna be proven right because the San Francisco 49ers are better team and Trevor Lawrence just isn't a very good quarterback, at least not right now. Baltimore at Kansas City plus two and a half.

Simon, this one has been lingering in two and a half. I think this is gonna be our rock in a hard place, hard rock, better the week. You mentioned it at the top of the show. This is a sharp call. Like the wise guys like the chiefs here. You've been pounding the table for the chiefs all week. I listened to the show on Tuesday.

Like you made a case for why you're taking the chiefs here. The Ravens defense is still decimated, right? Like Van Nuoy injured. The middle of that defensive line injured. They are especially challenged against the run. Here's the problem. Chiefs cannot run. And Patrick Mahomes has zero weapons.

So this is just us Believe in in the magic of Steve Spagnolo Believe in that the Ravens are troubled right now Believe in that Patrick Mahomes Can do something Patrick Mahomes like Is that correct? No They're good they get worthy's coming back

He's a weapon Oh he is? I didn't see that okay Yeah yeah yeah so that's a big deal As far as the run game goes I agree with you on that Like Pacheco has not looked the Samson's injury.

Whatever it is, lose that half a step of football, it just matters, right? It's just, you can just tell them guys don't have their burst anymore, but, you know, I look at this chiefs team that they have faced really tough run defenses, too. So that's why I'm not trying to be too hard on it. It's like, yeah, you play the Eagles, the Chargers, you know, even that Giants matchup against that front four wasn't ideal to run the ball against them. You expect it to be much easier against a Ravens team that literally cannot. stop the run in any way and do they have the guys that can make the adjustments i don't know it just

feels like with injuries they've had the ravens they don't know if they can make this type of adjustments and it's also a unique spot of the short week for mahomes right when mahomes plays teams coming off a short week he's been very profitable in this spot going back many years chat i know you hate that but going back many years i don't mind if it's the same player going back many years but if you're giving me a team and franchise a super bowl trends oh jesus to go back 50 years. Yeah, I just, Mahomes in this exact spot,

short week against teams coming off short week, 18 and 3 straight up in his career. Lamar, pretty good short week. You know, like it kind of cancels out. He's 5 and 3 in his career, but when he's just on normal rest, Lamar is 29 and 13 straight up. So there is a little bit of a difference, right?

He's much better, obviously, when he has more rest. But this number, I'm still confident in it, but I'm glad some 3s popped up because I could not get over the first. fact that I wasn't going to be able to get a Chiefs three. I just couldn't believe this is really going to stay at two and a half. Like this is really, the books are that confidence in this

chief's team where I'm like Chad where it's like I'm bed the number. I'm bed in my homes in the spot, but I'm not confident in this chief's team, honestly, where it's like they got a ton of time to get it right. But right now it just ain't right. Like there's little things that keep going wrong and they're just trying to keep finding their identity. So this one really is about trusting Mahomes, this matchup and fading a Ravens team that just looks dysfunctioned. And as great as Lamar's playing, I've seen all the stats, how incredibly he has been. I mean, this is no doubt the best defense he's faced this year. So it'll be interesting to how he plays against his defense where Lamar's, no doubt,

should not be sitting here at one and two. And like, I can't, you know what I'm saying he's going to be one and three after this game, which I think he will be as crazy to think. Stunning. It happens, right? It's just teams with bad matchups and still would best. them to win their division still think they'll make the playoffs as long as Lamar's healthy so it's not that big of a deal because the season is so long right now but um i get it we're betting

against a very desperate team in this raven's team that got embarrassed in a primetime spot usually would be another way but the the every probably talk you likes the chiefs on this side and i would say every joe public guy i've bumped into in the sports book last two days it's just all about this rapist you believe i'm getting ravens minus two and a half here like what a what a gift so That's why, like I said, the chat, I'm happy the three popped because I couldn't believe every book was holding at two and a half. I was thinking some professionals have to come in on the Ravens at some point. So one book here in Jersey has moved to three. So it's not a lot of professional money on this Raven side.

It really is the pros in the books lining up here on the Chiefs. So you can't avoid it, got to take it. It's a good number. Probably should be closer to a pick. We're just getting a ton of undervalued Chiefs love right now just because what Chad said, right? People don't know where these coming back. They doubt this offense, all their weaknesses. and it's it's Lamar after a loss right it's it feels like it's a pretty easy bet for most people so

yes it's it's it's scary it's two and a half still in our i believe in our contest but if you can get the three right now just betting the people i would grab that three in the chiefs and it feels like that's a good number they do lose it won't be by more than a field goal chiefs or nothing to me bag that's fair you say you say bet the ravens i'm like ah that feels that doesn't feel right betty the chiefs win but i agree the ravens feels off the chiefs feels off the chiefs scary. You know what I mean? Like you just instinctively institutional knowledge, whatever, you get that sort of gut reaction to it that's built into all the knowledge you've been gathering and that's how I feel about it. Real quickly, I want to talk about the bears and the Raiders only because

this game has been flip-flopping. On Tuesday, the Raiders were one and a half point dogs. Today, they're one-point favorites. You can find both a bunch of places. Strictly for the contest, I don't know. Do we like the Raive, if we can get the Raiders as underdogs? Are we, thinking that's what we want to do like I don't feel that strongly about this team I do I love Raiders here but okay I will make you forced it in because I don't I don't like I don't like I don't know that we're going to have a fifth that we like better but you know at the end of the show let's sort of we will review where I got a bunch yeah I'm with you it's it's it's just a game where I just love the number right there was still a couple one and a half plus one and a half

on the Raiders there and I just loved it. And, you know, it's data going back many years, Chad, with your Bears team that they just don't perform well. It doesn't matter who the new quarterback is after they have incredible quarterback play. And, you know, you dive into all the trends since 2018, the Bears, six and ten straight up, five and 11 against the spread after they have a quarterback that throws

for three plus touchdowns. I don't know, is that a Mitch Tribeskey, Justin Fieldsstad? Or is Caleb Williams going to be a part of that? because he looked really good in that game with no pass rush. And that's my fear is that when the right type of matchups, he's going to excel, Caleb Williams, and he's got no one in his face. And this type of matchup,

but they will be blitzing him. They will be having Max Crosby come off the edge. Either side he wants to line up on. It'll just be different to me. So I can't help but be a little weary of this Bears team coming off such a huge win, young team now on the road against a Raiders team that got embarrassed. And once again, it's another purpose.

pro spot. The pros are backing this Raiders team. The public is very heavy on this Bears team. So it's not a game I'm not a force in right. It was really about betting the number like plus one and a half. There's still one or two out there. I think you just have to grab that for this matchup. Is this kind of making our contest? Probably not. But I do I do really like this spot for this Raiders team that you know, as it looked bad. I'm not going to not to deny the public sediment. But I think they're not as bad as people perceive right now. They're not three points. points worse than this Bears team, which that's what this line is saying. Listen, for all I know, that stat about the Bears historically could be a Mike Phipps, Vince

Evans, Bob Avalini stat. That's since 2018, that's that. Oh, that's too bad. Do you know, because you, do you know who those guys are? No, do they fight in World War I? That might have been Sid Luckman, who also still may be until Caleb Williams can prove the greatest quarterback in the history of the Chicago Bears from the 1940s. All right, Simon, biggest bets.

Well, let's get to another game we didn't talk to that. We'll have to do. Oh, okay. I don't have it on my list. Tell me. Dallas, we never talked about it. They're plus seven. It's no different than us taking Cleveland last week.

It really is not. You're getting a seven-point dog at home in the first couple weeks of the season. And we've all seen that stat, right? like those last couple years these dogs in this exact spot it's been very profitable and i don't know about you my only fear is it's leffler like he is owned dallas i think it's some crazy stab like they're 5 and 0 against the spread or straight up against this dallas team and my biggest memory is chad we didn't mean chad did a live party um with all of our listeners and the game we bet on was the green bay packers is seven point seven and half point dog at

oh yeah in the playoffs in the playoffs it was over five minutes into that game. So I will put that out there right now. Dallas gets owned by Green Bay. If you want to avoid this one, totally get it. But this is another undervalued DAC spot where I love DAC in these exact spots. When he's every he's a big dog,

Dak tends to cover because he's so offensively gifted. And they have so many injuries in the Cowboys. Again, not a game I'm going to bang the table for. But I just want to read the stats because it is so important about what Cleveland did last week as a big home dog. It's the same exact spot here. So seven point home dog Your games 1 and 9

When they're in the exact spot So they're a big home dog More than 7 points or more They're 191 and 2 in the last three years In this exact spot Oh my God And go back further Because I know chat it hates going back further

Since 2020 3810 and 2 I don't mind 2020 I don't mind anything You don't mind anything You hate 2018 apparently too But I'm just saying like This is

this is a real trend in the modern era that is carried weight here that the rules have changed that have benefited these high-powered great quarterback from these offenses but the public pets these lines up too much when you get good value in these dogs that's really what that keeps telling me so hold your nose if you can still get the plus seven go grab it i'm i'm praying this is six and a half so we don't have to put it in contest but because of that number i have to do it and I really, really, really trust Dak when he's a big dog in the spot. The last one, I'm a sucker for this game.

Miami's minus two and a half against this Jets team. This is an 0 and 3 Miami team at home. And I know the trends actually hate this team in this spot. Like they're actually terrible in prime time. Two has been terrible at prime time and at home. But he just needs to win by a field goal against his Jets team for his first one of the season. I can't overstate how big of a deal that is where it's like,

I know the Jets are just as desperate. They're 0 and 3 as well. But I felt like they shot their shot last week. And they fell short where Miami did as well against the bills, but they never really were as close as this Jets team was, right? They were never in a position that they simply got to stop. They were going to win that game that the Jets were. So I can't believe it's still two and a half.

And I know some professionals who were on the Jets side, but their secondary of the Jets is so bad. This is how Miami can beat teams. This is one of the few teams they actually match up well again. So I have a model that minus three. It's minus two and a half. I wanted to hear where you were at in this Miami Gamer. You've not even thought about it, though.

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By the time we get there, probably going to have a lot of money tied to the charters. Money line, Houston's Moneyline. Those are like two spots I really like. And I have the Denver. Denver's playing in Cincinnati at home probably will have Denver's money line thrown there as well. So if you're looking for a really chalky money line bets, doing a lot of those with those type of teams but yeah my straight up bets um probably gonna end up with it being chiefs rams and uh bucks as my three biggest bets wow chiefs interesting i know it's just about the three like the three you give me the three i'm gonna keep betting pretty heavy into it i just can't help myself all right our money line ron robin underdog parlay your dog your dog likes my dog i think we got to go chiefs i think

we got to go bucks. Yeah. I think if we can get the Raiders plus one and a half can we put that in? Is that? I love that.

Fair? You know, you love Atlanta. They're plus. Oh, yeah. Atlanta? Then who's left? Who's left? I mean, I feel like we have to do it

every week as long as they're a big number. Plus 185, Carolina Panthers. Panthers. I know it's sick. And we're going against some respected money here, but I just Drake May, show it to me. Show me.

Like, people are throwing these stats out after you beat up, throwing the ball against Miami, Vegas. And, you know, last week against Pittsburgh, I know he lit it up, but it's like, show me, Drake, man. Like, let's see you do it again against another bad defense and actually win a game. So I'll take that plus 185 with Panthers. For the favorites parley,

bills, lions, chargers, Rams? Yeah, well, the Rams. Who's the fifth? Texans or Denver. I just, I'm like, I'm really into those both those. Let's do the Broncos. Okay. All right.

Survivor bills. So are we, are we not thinking, we just going super lazy and taking bills? Are we, are we going to try to be cute and go Houston? I've been thinking about it. Like, who are we going to? This is the spot. We have an 0 and 3 Houston team that could easily be 3 and 0 at home against a Tennessee team that we both agree are lost.

beyond law. And Cam Ward popped up on the injured list. Did he really? I thought I heard that somewhere. Interesting. Well, that makes sense because I've seen a couple of books move to seven and a half, which blew me away. Because, again, this is another spot where you have to,

if you're betting, you have to bet Tennessee. All right. Let's get cute. Let's take the Texans. Go Texans. I like it. Yeah, I like it too, because it's like the perfect spot. And it's just like we did with Denver, and Cowboys.

Like, I'm so glad we took bad teams, never have to take them again the rest of the year. All right. Sharp versus Square. I won last week. I'm going to take the Niners. Wow. Minus three or minus three and a half?

Minus three. Minus three. I can get minus three at Hard Rockbat. I guess I can't do bucks. I did them as my... Right, because I thought about doing the Falcons, but I can't get him at three. I thought about doing the chargers,

but I did them for chat says. I'll plant my flag, I guess. I'll go with... I guess I'll go with the Rams. I like it. minus three and a half. I'm hyping them up. I have to fade this cold steam.

It's just too much love. So it looks to me like the games we're going to recap on Sunday. Chargers minus six and a half. Looks like we'll do the bucks plus three and a half. You know, if Atlanta is at two and a half, we'll have a conversation against Marietta. We'll see how the lions are doing, but we like them right now. the Rams minus three and a half, the Niners minus three,

Chiefs plus two and a half. I think those are our top candidates and then we got it adjust based on how lines are moving and what injuries we're seeing. Yeah. Okay. All right.

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