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Episode Date: October 2, 2025

Welcome to October! NFL betting media maven Chad Millman is joined by his friend and professional sports gambler Simon Hunter as they narrow down their best bets for Week 5. They look at their favorite matchups on the board on their quest for five top against the spread bets for their weekly NFL contest. We also get Sharp Calls, where Simon recaps the phone calls he's received from fellow professional gamblers. Games covered today include Thursday Night Football between the LA Rams and San Francisco 49ers, Sunday Night Football between the New England Patriots and Josh Allen's Buffalo Bills, Monday Night Football between the Chiefs and Jaguars, Raiders vs Indianapolis Colts, Denver Broncos at Philadelphia Eagles, Dallas Cowboys at the New York Jets and more. We also get Round Robins, Simon's biggest bets of the week, moneyline favorites, survivor pool picks and so much more. #Volume -- All lines provided by Hard Rock Bet  0:03:00 - Start  0:07:00 - Sharp Calls 0:09:00 - 49ERS-RAMS 0:12:00 - VIKINGS-BROWNS 0:16:00 - DOLPHINS-PANTHERS 0:23:00 - GIANTS-SAINTS 0:28:00 - TEXANS-RAVENS 0:32:00 - BRONCOS-EAGLES 0:37:00 - COWBOYS-JETS 0:45:00 - BUCS-SEAHAWKS 0:49:00 - LIONS-BENGALS 0:56:00 - COMMANDERS-CHARGERS 1:04:00 - CHIEFS-JAGUARS  1:08:00 - Simon's Biggest Bets  1:09:00 - Round Robins + Survivor  Subscribe to Sharp or Square for gambling advice, best bets, and predictions from sports betting experts Chad Millman and Simon Hunter. Follow on all platforms:  https://www.instagram.com/sharporsquare/  https://x.com/SharporSquare_See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Welcome to Sharper Square presented by a hard rock bet. We are part of the volume podcast Network. This is the betting show that makes the square sharper and makes the wise guys pay attention. I am Chad Millman. I am joined, as always by my co-host, my companion, my confidre professional. no better my BFF. Simon Hunter. Hello, Simon.

Chad, how we doing? Dude, we're doing pretty awesome. Yeah, life is good. It is pretty good. I just want you to know. I have, you know, one of my kids goes to school in Philly. He goes to Drexel. He's a senior.

He's not a sports fan at all. But I have completely indoctrinated him into Philly's baseball. the passion, the glory, the fan base, the excitement, everything about Phillies baseball. I'm sending them, you know how much I love Phillies, TikTok. Bryce Harper just did a VO on a video, a hype video for October baseball for the Phillies. I sent it to them.

We're fully engaged. We are all on your side for the Phillies. I just want you to know that. Yeah, it was pretty wild. The Phillies had, it's basically a fake game last night. I went to it with a couple buddies. And I couldn't believe how many people were there, how rowdy it was.

And then there's rumors going throughout the crowd that there was like, I think it was the Dodgers didn't sell out their game last night. There's something out, maybe it was another team, maybe it was the Guardian, whoever was, just Phillies fans owning that being like, you see how many people are here, and it's just like, okay, calm down.

It doesn't matter. But I would be lying to if I didn't say, I wasn't nervous about this Dodgers team, just watching them, all the names, all of it. I think I saw some crazy stats the first time the Phillies have played the Dodgers in the playoffs since 2009. So, yeah, I'm excited as a

Phillies fan, but like I said, baseball, it's very random. They've changed it. It's not seven games anymore. It's only five games in this round. So, yeah, I'm thinking of all the ways that could go wrong, but like the vibes, like last night in the stadium, it's so high. I just really do think the players

that love playing in Philly, the atmosphere, all of that. It'll lift them up, hopefully, this upcoming series against L.A. man, that team, that team is loaded. Care of the day. All right, this is our Thursday, week five episode. We're going to narrow down the options on our quest to find five picks we agree on for the week.

We are going to do something special this week. Simon says on Tuesday was the Texans plus three and a half against the Ravens. I would say our show had been live for about an hour before that moved all the way to the Texans minus two and a half as we're leaked that Lamar Jacks. Jackson, his status was up in the air for the weekends game against the Texans. So we're going to add a new Simon says today since that one was unavailable so quickly. We're also switching up the format of our rock and a hard place bet. We're finding that on Sunday mornings when we do our Sunday morning show, so often that fifth game is the game that we're having a hard time that we want to put

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in which you said you were going to get some calls about. So let's get into this thing. It's time for Sharp calls. Answer this. Yeah, let's run through just the games that obviously we talked about and that they agree with us on. Professional aside, no doubt about it, the Rams. People have seen that number.

It's ballooned, obviously, up to nine now to a couple books. So we'll talk about that one. Miami, shockingly, we were on the Panthers. There are a lot of pros I know. They're on the Miami side. They like Miami side. Interesting. Yeah.

Cowboys. on other pro side. Talk to a lot of pros that really like that side. The Saints, no doubt about it. Tons of pro love for that side. Seahawks, which is shocking. I'm still dug in the books, but we can break down that one if you want some more.

Very shocked here. A little bit of love for this New England Patriots side. And once again, I think I'm going to stay on the other side. I think I want to be on the bills, but I know some really smart guys who like that side. They love Jag, the Jags, or Chad, definitely nailed that one. pros are all over that jaggs side that number three and a half uh no threes but three and a half's definitely the professional side and a game that i'm just i got a blind spot too uh i can't get a read on

it Vegas talked to a bunch of pros that really like Vegas they like the trends they like the number they like the spot they like the situation i am still dug in on the colts if you can get the minus six minus six and a half i still think that's a prefer side for me but maybe they've talked me out of even think I'm putting in our contest because it is, once again, very respected money on that Raider's side right now. Wow, there's a lot of differences between what we had talked about on Tuesday and where I think we were leaning and what professional betters that you're hearing from are talking about. Yeah, a lot of hate this week.

A lot of hate this week. Yeah, that's, I mean, it's gambling. Man, that's interesting. All right, here we go. I want to talk about Thursday night just for a few minutes. I know a lot of people are going to hear this after the Thursday night game. But it has moved so much. Look, this line was three and a half on Sunday.

And on Tuesday, when we talked about it, it was five and a half. Now you mentioned nine. It's at eight and a half most places. The line moves have been crazy mainly because of the Brock Purdy news. But then last night it came out. Purdy's not going to be playing. Joanne Jennings is not going to be playing. Ricky Pursall not going to be playing.

Nick Bosa, obviously, already out. So you're not getting the Niners Super Bowl. caliber roster that you thought you might be getting in a division matchup on Thursday night. So that's why the number has moved so much. I know for us, like, I'm going to play the Rams in Survivor in one of my Survivor pool contests. And I know that when we think about contest for our contest, we're going to have to play the Rams because that line locked at five and a half. Yeah. And luckily, we talked about it on Tuesday's show and people were able to get that the five and a half and the six did not see it going all up to what it's become right and i think

that is because they're down they're number one number two receiver and now you have mac jones at third and eight with two guys on mccaffrey now having to make plays to practice players and backups like they're they're in a really tough spot this week the 49ers and surprisingly shanahan he's actually awful in these spots so i i think your position to take the Rams and Survivor, you know, a little scary because it's a Thursday game, but I think it's warranted here where in this exact spot when Shanehan's a huge dog like this, I believe in his career, he's 1 in 18 straight up. So you look at those type of numbers and you think yourself, okay, it's already a bad matchup. And then you look at the ATS records, you know, short week, McVeigh has always

been good between, you know, his early years with the Rams and now later in his career, he's 17 and 7 against the spread on short week. So it's a huge number. I, I probably have it right at seven and a half. So if you're someone that's out there, and you haven't been better at all, and you're like, I want to be on the 49er side, I guess you can take the nine. That's the only number I would touch it,

even though my model has that as a much better value. I just, I don't think it understands how tough this is going to be of a matchup for this team. And, you know, first half is a divisional game. This season could be a 10-10, 7-7 game going to half. But once the teams make adjustments, I think the Rams will be able to move the ball, and the 49ers just won't in the seven.

second half. So yeah, I'm glad we're locked in on this being in our contest. It's a good, good way to start the week, especially this week where I have games I really like, not a ton of love from my side, honestly. So this is one of the few games I love that we're getting a great number. And yeah, just, man, we need the rim show up here because this is just a horrible match of this four-in-hers team. I just don't see how they move the ball offensively. They just have so many devastating injuries. Look, I hope people were paying attention. I did bet it on Tuesday at five and a half, and there's been a couple games this week.

We're going to go through them where we talked about them on Tuesday and saying we liked the lines at certain numbers, and they got to those numbers, or you had to bet them right away, and we were saying, go bet this number. So hopefully people were paying attention. All right, Rams, it's getting out of hand.

I wouldn't be betting the Rams now, but hopefully everyone was able to get that. Rams five and a half. I do want to talk about the Sunday morning game for a second because since we talked about it, Minnesota and Cleveland in England, Cleveland is a three and a half point underdog. We talked about it on Tuesday. And the question we had was, why is Joe Flacco still the starting quarterback for this team? And we said Kevin Stefansky had been non-committal.

So there was a hint that he might just. change his mind. Dylan Gabriel has since been announced at the starting quarterback. There is one four and a half out there. I'm tempted to take the Browns at four and a half. At three and a half, I don't know if you have an opinion on this. It hasn't changed at all with Dylan Gabriel. Like, it's basically been painted three and a half everywhere. So you got a call here? I like, I think I lean. Let me tell you why I lean Browns before you. you give me your opinion. Okay.

Aline Brown's because the Vikings' offensive line is truly terrible right now, like in real massive injury deficit. So you're going to get Miles Garrett, who's playing like a defensive player of the year, if not an MVP. You're going to get Mason Graham, who's playing like a defensive rookie of the year. You're going to get that kid, Carson Schwessinger, Sweringer, what is name it, the linebacker who might be defensive rookie of the year,

I guess a really bad offensive line. And against a Carson Wenz who still can't seem to figure out how to get beyond his first read, I think that potential here is keep this game really close. And for the Vikings, like don't let Carson Wend screw it up. So it feels like there's a possibility here for it to be a low-scoring close game. Yeah, it stinks. I was on the Browns. I really wanted to be Flacco because to me the biggest deal is this is a Flores defense.

I could not believe, of all the games have put a rookie for his first start, you couldn't honestly pick the worst match up for Dylan April. This is going to be, I remember, like I said, that stuff Flores shows you he's never seen anything like, especially in college football where these kids don't even get coached to learn and read defenses, right? They're just reacting to their own offense, let alone the other team's defense. So bad spot. I wanted to be on the Browns. They're the super public side.

People are kind of leaving the Vikings for dead here. And we've learned in European games, these favorites, they tend to do well. But even more so, the chalk, like whatever the public is betting tends to be well. And right now the public side is this Browns team. So I'll probably end up just holding my Browns bets I already made early in the week because I did think it was going to be Flacco. To me, the sharp side, we've already missed the value, which was the under. like they've taken this down now from basically 41 to 36 and a half 35 and a half at some book so yeah that's that's crazy because again it's an international game tends to lean towards the over so yeah just uh put a bow on it i guess i'm on the browns i guess i'll keep keep my under ticket alive but if people just want to tease this one like tease the browns up that whatever 10 or you know nine and a half and tease the under up or do whatever something. like that I get it. I just

this game is so many unknowns now with those switch to flacko and like Chad said all the injuries to the Vikings offensive line I'm uh I'm with you on the brown side it's just not a game I'm bent confidently Miami Carolina Carolina is now a one and a half point underdog I feel a little

regretful because when we did the show on Tuesday there were one and a half point favorites that had flipped now it's flipped back to them being underdogs this would have been a Chad Lutz potentially if the Carolina Panthers had been underdogs on Tuesday.

It's two really bad teams, let's face it. And like, I still would rather be betting on the Panthers than betting on the dolphins in a situation where they've just lost Tyreek Hill. And the Panthers, they're not a very good team. We know that. But this Dolphins team is choice. trash, really trash. And I don't think that they were as good as anyone thinks they were on the

Monday night game. Yeah, maybe not. That was honestly a perfect matcher for them. And like, you know, the Jets being the Jets kept turning the ball over. That's really what decided that game. Yeah. And the penalties. My fear here with Panthers is Chuba, Hubbard, their number one back, who to me is one of the more underrated running backs in all football, doesn't get the credit respect he deserves from general public he's honestly a stud this was going to be a great match for him he's banged up he has a practice set this week on the flip side you go through the injuries to their line their defense the panthers are just going through a lot like a lot of teams are in football right now and i you know this is a huge discussion just in the football community like i talk to different scouts

different guys and organizations this whole next collective bargain agreement i think they're going to bring back more padded practices and just more contact with people because You get early in the year here, all these guys are all getting banged up, and it just feels like it's all these different teams. And the Panthers were part of that list, and so is Miami, right? You just said Tyree Kill. As big of a deal, does lose Tyree Kill? He's honestly, statistically, he was one of the better receivers this year.

He's like win rate, getting open, all that stuff. That's going to be a big deal. But I can't stop and think about how this is the exact matchup to a Thriveson, which is a zero pass rush, and he's going to have guys open. And he just does well against bad teams. You go through his historical data, he always beats up on bad teams and just gets ruined by good teams on the road. So, yeah, it's a game I was with Chad. I was confident on the Panthers.

Still going to be on the Panthers, especially a plus one and a half. But just knowing the respect and money that is on Miami, their reasoning, their position, why they're taking on this Miami team. I get it because I did go back and watch the Bryce Young tape. And it's like, even that Atlanta when he didn't look that good, honestly. So I'm worried about him, child. I'm not going to lie. Like he just doesn't look right yet mentally, all of it.

And, yeah, Bryce Young slowly, but surely he's playing himself out of the NFL, especially the way he's been playing this year. Isn't that amazing? Yeah. Number one overall pick. No, that. He just showed something last year where I thought that would carry into this year, and it just has not at all.

Well, chances are very good that we finally might bet the Carolina Well, we got lucky they've been a dog because I'm sure people have seen those stats like they haven't won or covered it as a favorite in like four years or three years. I think it was since like 23. Totally. And yeah, they've just been a disaster in this exact spot. I mean, they're just, I know the owner's trying to hire a bunch of nerds and he thinks that's going to help, but it isn't. You need, I don't even know. You need to just blow it all up. They just need to start from the ground up. It's it feels like everything they do is wrong. And there are pieces to like on this on this Panthers team. But like I just said, between all the injuries, Chad, I just, I'm a little uneasy about this game. All right. Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers. And guess what?

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I was honestly going to leave this one out because the line had moved so much from Saints Plus 2 on Sunday night when we did like it to minus 2. It seemed to me the value was gone. We were texting earlier this morning about some games. You brought this one up. Could we conceivably responsibly, professionally

bet on Spencer Rattler as a two point home favorite is there something that that makes us comfortable giving away four points of value? It was three points, right? It's minus one and a half. It was there plus one and a half. But

they were plus two on Sunday night. There are places where the Ryan is too now. And that helps no one here. Don't don't talk about that line. Because again, I got that but who cares? I put a penny on that sort of our listeners if they've even bet it but to me this is the line people are going to bet i really think it's it's really about me thinking spencer rattler is much better than people think i i believe those pro football focus had him as their 18th graded highest quarterback right now this season like he's

actually played really well and the numbers bear that out not only using his legs but he's been really effective on third down and this is really about the spot and on jackson dart what i do like what he's done with his legs and I did think he had some good throws they've lost the guy they lost malik neighbors I don't think we can understand how big of a deal that is where this guy was basically their offensive they needed just a prayer on third down that was the guy they would turn to every play and then you factor in that this is dart's second start now after a win and now he's on the road and i think we'd both agree even the saints suck that's a pretty tough environment to play indoors in that dome them. So let's go into the numbers. So QBs making their, you know, first couple starts the last five years. So this is a second career start. On the road in this spot, these young quarterbacks, 13 and 34 straight up. So historically, a really bad spot for these guys to be in. You know, dart. I'll give them, like I said, the credit he can use his legs. That is a weapon. That will benefit him against the Saints team that they do have a lot of holes in their defense. You know, dart, I'll give them, like I said, the credit he can use his legs. That is a weapon. That is a weapon. That will benefit him against a Saints team that they do have a lot of holes in their defense.

especially at the lineback position that you know even if they try to QB spy dart I don't know if they have a guy that can really take that away he's injured like I saw a thing about a guy that he's wearing like it's his type of sleeve on his leg that basically keeps your leg warm for bad hamstrings so does he have an injury here I think he does so I don't think I'll better use his legs which again another advantage to us with the same side and this would be a side that no one's going to bet but professionals chat like this is going to be the public is going to come in on the Giants. No one's been in the Saints. Like we said, Spencer Rattler, he's never won a game his career. He's 0 for 10 his career, and he's now a favorite. The Saints viewed from the public as the worst team of football because, you know, they're bad, they're 0 and 4. They're our favorite at home here. So I love that the public's on the other side of this. I'm with you. Obviously, I wish this was still plus two. This would have been a no-brainer. Would have forced it into our contest. At one and a half, I get your hesitation because with bad teams, you do want the best of the number, but I love this spot for the Saints.

team for this matchup and just that being desperate i can't talk about enough people with sports being desperate especially as a professional it's a real thing like i i don't know if you watched the ben jonson speech after that raiders game he talked about that the how desperate both teams were and you could sense it and that's why that that's such a huge win because it's like you need it you're dying for there's nothing worse as a competitor than losing week in a week out so i just can't help but feel like the Giants are going to be feeling good about a huge win against the Chargers. Now I'm going against the Saints team that every week for the most part, other than that Seahawks game, they've been close.

They've been in these games and they've been hungry. So I'm pitching it to you hard. I want you to come on the Saints side, but I'm wearing the fans are like you. They're just like, this is so gross. I don't trust Rattler as a favorite, but I'm telling you, it's a good number. This should be two and a half. Should be closer to three. I think we're getting a good deal here on the Saints side.

I don't need that much convincing on the Saints. Like I've wanted to be on them the whole. week and and just bummed about the number more than I'm about Spencer Rattler and you know we just get burned in these situations so I'm feeling a little bit uh it's got to swing the other way though there's it's it's been you're right this year it's it's been going the one-sided very heavily whenever it flips the favorites begin burned but it that's that's an anomaly honestly that's been it's been very flukish where like every that game what keeps landing on one and the team that became the favorite loses on the one so I'm with you it's been weird

But I'm trying not to overreact too much to it because it has been so flukeish. I'm not afraid of it. I'm not afraid. I'm not afraid of this bet at all. Just telling you right now. Houston at Baltimore, this was Simon says. We still owe people a new Simon says. We owe people of brass balls.

We're getting to those. But it was Simon says when it was Texans three and a half. And like I said in the intro, I don't think the show had been up for more than an hour before this flipped because of the Lamar Jackson speculation. So I wanted to ask you, you were so adamant that this was Simon says, it was almost like you knew something. Did you have an inkling?

Had you been hearing something? Like, give me the background here. Again, I don't know what to say because it's tough, Chad. I do have another job. That's why all these picks are free. And as much people want to bitch brother show, it's seven seasons, free picks. And yeah, I have a duty to the people I work for to get the best of the number for that.

And again, why I feel comfortable giving out on the show is I've been, I've been betting it since Monday. And yeah, like the, that's the hardest part too, though. It's what to trust because you hear all these crazy rumors. But that one, I thought I had some really good info, was really pounding the table about it. And now that it has moved, you know, people, if they did get that number and they want to play the other side, I don't hate it because it's quickly becoming. a Ravens line and you know Cooper Rush he is a downgrade but this was nine and a half so you know 10 points 11 points what is Lamar worth of this team it is probably close to that number so at some point it will become a Cooper Rush line you know with him Derek Henry Zay Flowers you know he does

have weapons to use to me the reason I'm not pound on the table about back in the Ravens here and I'm still comfortable with Houston and their side is just I can't get over how bad banged up that Ravens defenses and how this Houston team way to build and move the ball and defensive they will be able to get stops like we said this is a historically great defense in Houston and I think they set a record or tied a record for at least amount of points allowed through the first four games with 51 points like they've been dominant so yeah it's painful I love Chad the show isn't about me giving Chad the best of the number that's why when I texted you I was like okay I probably should get on another Simon says just because how many people

were able to get that three and a half literally people our fans hit it and then the news came out like an hour after the show and all of a sudden it really moved to about two and a half on this houston team so like we said there's been buyback you know professional money is obviously coming on this raven side to me if you have houston i think you have a good side um at the three and a half obviously i wouldn't do anything if i have to pick a side now with this number i'll be patient see if you get the ravens back up the two and a half to me that's that's where the value would be just because I do think obviously it's a bad matchup for them in Cooper Rush, but we've seen it.

These backups that come in that first game, especially this year, they've all done well like that. Whatever it is, but the defense and I've been able to have tape on them, I know they have tape from Cooper Rush from previous years in Dallas. You don't know what he's going to run here for this Ravens team. So, yeah, I'm again, happy again in our contest. It's most likely going to be three and a half.

That's going to be an easy decision to take Houston there. I don't know about forcing Houston at a minus one and a half. I just, it feels like we're forcing a bad. bet in here that um totally right okay yeah i i only wanted to bring it up because it felt like having done this with you for a long time i i listened to the show on tuesday after the lamar news and it felt like a not just simon says simon knows and so i wish it was that much but yeah i just i had a very very very very very reliable source but it's like holy shit he he might be really banged up and you saw like an hour after our show got posted yeah yeah chefty and all these guys came

out with it so that's the toughest part doing our show it's like we got to do it and then post it i know it's tough there's two hours in there that's wasted and only chad's benefiting from it but i know it's it's it's tough people uh Denver at philly when we talked about this other day it was at four and a half it's moved to it's we like Denver it moved to three and a half and like i'd say the last 48 I've dug into this game pretty aggressively, trying to figure out, do I have an opinion? I can mostly find reasons not to like either team. And so, you know, like Denver's defense is great,

but they're blitzing a crazy amount to get all the pressure that they're getting. The problem is the Eagles, like their offensive line is banged up. Pass-Sertain can probably lock down A.J. Brown and a lot eliminate the primary weapon that Jalen Hurts would go to under any kind of pressure. Saquan Barkley has not been getting the yardage that he obviously got last year. And defensively, like, there's a lot of holes for this defense, especially in pass coverage. So my biggest fear, ultimately my biggest fear in backing the Broncos, which I will do, is Bo Nix.

Bo Nix against good teams. How is Bo Nix going to get over the hump against a good team? That's honestly my biggest fear with this. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, Denver side. It's Bo Nix has struggled as a dog. I think he's four and seven as career

against the spread. Nine and two as a favorite. So he's done very well as a favorite in his young career and he's struggled as a dog. Historically, Denver coming to Philly, bad spot. I think they're one in six lifetime. The one win was,

John Elway, which, when did he retire, Chad, like 99 or 2000? So that's been a long time. I think I covered John Elway's last game, which was that Super Bowl. I'm not even joking. So like, it's a weird spot for this Denver team. And it really is, I love the line. I even had Dr. Nick hit me up being like, this is my favorite game. The luck rankings and loves Denver here. And I agree with them. The Eagles have been very lucky. And that's why I told you, I couldn't get over the media this week what they were going to do with this eagles team because it's just it's what they dream of it's nonsensical talk about a four-and-o team and they're just looking for reasons to pick it apart like i love that sayquin hasn't broken 100 yards yet because it's like

well i thought we were only good or jim was only good because saiquan was good i mean what's the excuse now this year or you know the defense they have weaknesses obviously but you've seen that this these guys of how he's drafted for this eagles team quangianne on mitchell a guy i gave out you know early in the year to be the defensive player of the year he was incredible last week cooper djean quickly become one of the best tacklers and all of football like this kid is incredible and this should be a good match for this eagles team but i think chad nailed it like the the weakness what everyone's not talking about to me is just that interior line of this eagles team that dickerson's been banged up the lane johnson yeah lane johnson's been coming out of games

the first four weeks and it's unstable right now and that's what's been the issue with their team is that when everyone's in and the guys are in rhythm their offense clicks and all of a sudden a guy goes out or something's one of the guys you know doesn't isn't feeling right in the second half and you just see their whole offense stumble because they just can't they can't block right now so this eagle team keeps getting away with it like they got away the last week they should not have covered last week I keep saying that. The line reflects that this line should be two and a half three.

We're getting good value on Denver, but we're both walking right into it. This Eagles team, that's how football is sometime. These teams that are underperforming the general public, they're winning games, and in the big moments,

their team steps up in those type of moments. So if you can get the four and a half, I would go grab it. There was one still out there. But like Chad said, this is going to be three and a half. Every pro, I know is taking the Denver side. Everyone agrees. The Eagles are overvalued. To me, the public, they will come in on this Eagle's side.

This will be another, I mean, probably will be in our money line around Robin. Like, it's a good spot historically for this Eagles team to win outright, but it's that number with the hook. They're sucking me. And there's a couple games this week with that where it's like, I can't help it. I can't help it with the hook still three and a half. I want it. I've always wanted it.

They're keeping it there, Chad. So I think we're getting a good number. and I do like this Denver side. And like you said, it's scary because we're relying a lot on Bo Nicks here. But I think there's other ways, especially with that run game with Dobbins, that they can attack this Eagles defense. This game has a rock and a hard place feel to me. It does.

I can honestly see it being a hard debate on Sunday. I just feel like we're going to, I feel like ultimately we're going to be on the Broncos. And by the way, I was just looking back at my notes. I forgot. I did bet the Broncos at four and a half. And like you said, there is still one place out there with a four and a half. Yeah. Shop around.

So you can find it. But I feel like it's going to be a hard one. It really is. Dallas at the New York, J-E-T-S, J-E-T-S, Jets, Jets, Jets, Jets, plus two and a half. Guess what, Simon? The New York Jets are going to be our brass balls better the week. You know what it takes?

It takes brass balls. Listen, I wanted this at three. This could have been at Chad Loves. I wanted at three. It didn't get there until after our show on Tuesday. I did bet it at three, even with some extra juice, just because I wanted that insurance on the Jets. I feel like the Jets are going to be in our money line,

underdog, round robin, parlay. You know, it's clearly the sharp side or the new. York Jets, you know, you can, like, here's my questions for you. Are you ready? Yeah. What would you say has been the strength of the Dallas Cowboys this year? Easy, DAC. Do you know how many points a game they are scoring? 30, 29? 29. 28 and a half, fifth in the league. Yeah, sounds right. Two 40-point games this season. Do you know how many games Justin Fields has won when the opponent's score is more than 21 points.

I mean, going back to his bear's year is probably zero. Zero. Yeah, that sounds right. I think he is 0 and 24 when the opponents score 21 points. Here's why this is our brass balls better than we. The Jets have given up this year, 34, 30, 29, and 27. The good news is that they are giving up fewer and fewer points every week.

So could this be the week where they get a team to score less than 20 points? I don't know, but they're going to be our brass balls better the week. Yeah, and it's a unique spot for this Jets team that they're going against a defense that is, like Chad has said, is as bad as their own defense. And they're inflated Dallas right now. Like this, the public is going to have an love affair with them. They're going to be all in on DAC, loving DAC for good reason. Like, we talked about coming in the year. Everyone had forgotten about Dak left over dead.

And I was the one down the table saying, this guy is still a really high-level guy. I get the pieces around them are very bad, but they're going to steal games this year. They're going to be a competitive team just because that pick-ins at, to me, is one of the bigger, sneaky ads of the whole year where it's like, what he does really well is some of Dak's favorite balls. Those tight end, those tight throws on the sideline, Dak loves and is really good throwing. throwing them that's like pickin's money like he's so good in the small windows so you know a guy that is gonna have a good matchup against this defense of the jets because i think we could both agree

sauce is not now whatever that was and they paid him it's like the fear of every owner he just has whatever is going on with him off the field has to has to have been affected him on the field because we know the raw talent is there like he has got the skills he's just not that player anymore so that's That's the scary part is that he will be on pickings, but thank God, no CD here. And that to me is a big deal where, you know, Ferguson has really excelled this year, their tight end for Dallas, and that's going to be another way for this Dallas team to attack. But I think the fact that we can have sauce on a number one, and now the game's going to be forced to a tight end in the middle,

that's going to benefit this Jets team. And offensively, we even talked about it. I love this matchup for Fields and this run game. And like you said, that's why I like it. Yeah, that game against Miami, if they, could just hold onto the ball they would have won that game i feel like like especially once that defense in miami got tired it was over that's the thing with fields he'll wear you out especially with that run game they have to win this game like we said this is another desperate team in a desperate spot

and we have no doubt the jets one of the worst teams of football like i i before the year i closed my eyes i could see see how they could do it they could win games this year and they could be a team and they've had the opportunities right they could be easily be two and two like they've had games that they've could have stolen in one. And, you know, I guess we should have known like that Pittsburgh game week one. That sums up these two teams, right? Tomlin, whatever, magical win, Jets found a way to lose that game. And that's what they've done this year. Their same old Jets. So two and a half three, this is a Jets number. You know, like Jets said, this is going to be the professional side. The square side is no doubt the Dallas side. And like I said on Sunday show, I don't know

if Dallas can be favored against bad teams anymore. To me, they are just simply a bad team. This should be closer to a pick. Scary bet, like Chad said, this is our brass balls bet. You need to, just like last week, we said, we were taking these bets. You got to have some balls here, people to take them. So I love that we're all lined on this side. Give me the Jets plus two and a half. You got some balls, my friend.

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You've sort of dug in on the bucks. I haven't bet this game. I kind of lean Seattle. And I think this defense is just so good. And I don't think you can discount the fact of how good they are getting pressure without ever blitzing. We talked about the Broncos. The Broncos are great at getting pressure, but the Broncos need to blitz to get the pressure. And like the Seahawks, and I'm talking about overall.

statistically like the broncos are blitzing more than anyone else in football and we know that's sartan stat though right what's that like patrick is so good at one-on-one shutdown corner they can use that fifth guy to blitz they don't need to have two in color that's true it's that's actually what it is that's true the seahawks are only russian four yeah they're great they're like their blitz rate is the second lowest in the league and so isn't that what usually gives baker a hard time is when they're not blitzing it's everybody is covered downfield so I worry about that I worry about Bucky Irving

I like betting on good defenses I think they are safe and reliable you know like I just I don't love the bucks here is what I'm saying yeah and as someone that loves the C-Ux you know I get where you're coming from to me though this is a Baker spot and a cell spot in the C-Ox team

and this would be a bigger bet of mine if like you said it wasn't for the injuries because I do think Bucky Air is a huge deal. Like this guy is electric. Every time he touches the ball, he can break it for 70s. One of the best weapons of football.

But like I said, this is a Baker number, a Baker spot. I had to try to find the numbers. Shout to my guy Evan Abrams. He put it all in one nice spot for me because I was like, what is Baker's career as a dog?

And I think I was going too far back where I just really needed to focus on what he's been with this Bucks team. So as an underdog in this, the spot Baker 15 and 8 against the spread as an underdog covering by five and a half points per game. So that's what I think is like built into me. It's like Baker has been so good to me in these exact spots and how can you not want to sell a Seahawks team that they are good. This is no doubt the best defense they've faced all year. Like people are going to start realizing this secondary,

like the cover corners. I know the Eagles got shut down. They got some. young studs on that on that team down in uh tampa like top bulls is coaching these young kids up and they're scrappy like i loved going back watching that game where even when it wasn't a even when it was a even when it was a tight window they're very handsy very physical with the receivers and i think that's what you need to be with the seahawks team and you know jsn a guy i gave out the lead to league in receiving yards i think he's second right now he's been dominant for the seahawks he's been one of the best receivers on football and him and sam don't have a real connection right now so I think it's going to be interesting to see what they do when you got Vita Vey, taking away their run game,

and you have some really good secondary options taken out JSN and that attacking offensive Seahawks. Again, I like the under in this game more than anything else, but I think you're getting good value on this, this Bucks team of three and a half where, again, they should have covered, in my opinion, last week, this line's moved too much based on the injuries. It was two and a half. It did open two and a half, and now it's moved up to three and a half. But like I said, if you just want to avoid it, I get it. The professionals I know that I've talked to, they like the CX side, not finding too many guys like me

that love this buck side. So maybe I'm not reading this one correctly, and that's why I'm being a little hesitant with it. But yeah, once again, just like Denver, they're getting me with the hook. I just can't believe it's three and a half. I just, this game should be three in my opinion. They desperately need my and some other people

to bet this Bucks team clearly because this hook has just been up for three days. now so pretty pretty interesting line here with this sea ox book scheme well as john popper once said the hook will bring you back that's true um by the way you shouted out evan abrams greatest researcher of all time all time you also mentioned dr nick dr nick giffin who created the luck rankings over at action which we love uh and i do believe that this is sort of the the the the eagles and the um Broncos game is like the marquee luck matchup in the luck rankings this week in favor of the Broncos. If we're looking to something to tip the scales, rock in a hard place.

Detroit at Cincinnati, we talked about this a little bit before we came on the air. Cincinnati's at 10.5. 7.5, 8 and a half, 9.5, 10, 10.5. When's it going to stop? Simon. And like, here's another exciting stat for you, also from our pal Evan Abrams. In the first three months of the season, I saw Evan tweet this, in the first three months of the season, Zach Taylor, so September, October, November, is 0 and 16 without Joe Burrow as his quarterback. Okay? Like, he's clearly terrible with anyone but Joe Burrow as a coach.

Here's the other thing, coordinator killer sports, home underdogs. 10 plus points in the NFL of 10 plus points in the NFL since 1989, 54%. Underdogs of 10 plus points of a blowout of 25 or more, 54%. That is the history. Full disclosure, I have not bet this yet. I don't want to bet this. I know you're on the Lions. Yeah.

But I feel like we should bet the Bengals. I know. Now, I'm on the lines, and I'll hit you with a bunch of stats. Like, I really dove into this one because... Because you know I want to bet the Bengals. And I'm trying to find reasons why I want to be on the Bengals, but I cannot find it. And, you know, all these stats are just so alarming. Like you said, a ton of them on social media.

People want to find them. But my favorite one I saw was that the Bengals in their last two games, they've lost by 25 points. Crazy. Yep. They had under 200 total yards. they had under 60 rushing yards and they were outrushed by 100 yards and gave up three plus sacks.

It's terrible. No team in NFL history in the Super Bowl era has ever done that in a two-game stretch. This is a train wreck of a team. They are awful. Like we've talked about this on Tuesday. The Bengals are one of the lowliest, losingest, most undecorated franchises

in the history of the NFL. And the past two weeks of games, have been the worst they have been in their entire franchise history. Truly terrible. Yeah, and I got, you know, we got lucky, obviously. We were on this team being bad this year and failing. And the Joe Borough injury takes that up to another level, right?

And I said it before the season. I thought this would happen because they were built, like a 16-year-old built this team. It's like, let's pay the receiver, let's pay the quarterback, let's pay AD, and the rest will just fill it out. Like just fill it out with random guys and that's never going to work. You have to be smart with your money, manage it right, pay guys early, do all that stuff when you're a bad team like they are.

They did the opposite. They paid all their guys late and they haven't drafted well. And I'll go back to it. You know, the same reason we loved this Detroit team. I mean, it's been two straight weeks. I've been on them as big chalk favorites. Detroit, Campbell. We saw it.

You won by, you know, huge win last week by more than six. points 23 and 6 against the spread when he wins by 7 plus so more than 7 points 20 and 5 against the spread in the next game so they're the anomaly historically you go back through the data there's never been teams like this this has been the most epic run ever there's you know we shit on the tennessee titans the most epic run ever if you fade them since dan can was taken over this team this detroit team they're 70% against the spread i think it's like the greatest run since some viking team from back in the day. It's like truly historical what we're on right now, this team.

So Chad's reasoning is right. If this was week nine and this Bengals team had been as awful as they've looked, I'd been like, well, Detroit has a bunch of injuries to their defense. Chase will be able to get open. He's going to be bitching all week. He's going to get the ball. This is the matchup for this Bengals team. But even if they get that seven on that drive, are they going to get the 21?

Are they going to get the 28? because I feel like that's what they're going to need to do against this Lions team. I just, I don't see their defense getting stops. They don't have the guys. So Aidan Hutchison, he's going to do his thing in this game. And offensively, I just, I can see them rolling. I mean, it must be insane going from the Browns last week, trying to run the ball and all the contact they were getting to this week.

It's going to be like running through paper. It's going to be unreal for this Lions team. So that's why this number is what it is. The books don't want to be up this high. Like I told Chad, if you can find the nine and a half, I'd grab it. I just think this would be 10, 10 and a half. The professional side, sure, it is the Bengals, but I know just as many pros like me on this line side.

So it's a split game. I don't know if it's going to be one of my five. I'll make our, us forced income Sunday, but I could get there. I don't think it's going to get there. Again, you're on the other side, but I can't get over how bad this Bengals team is. And you're simply bed and it just because of the number of the spot. Yeah. How often do we say, you bet the number, you bet the spot? That's a bad number. Why isn't this 13? This is the, I don't know.

too low. Well, that's the handicap then. Like, but at 10 and a half, it's still a massive, massive number that historically everyone says, everything says you bet the number you bet the spot. That's it. It doesn't matter if it's 13 or 10 and a half. It's double digits. It's a huge number. Like, you bet the spot. I don't feel like I'm looking at our list right now. I don't feel like it's going to crack into the top five. I think we've got four settled. And I think right now, Denver and Philly. is sort of the rock and a hard place decision with some other games coming up. But interesting, interesting game

from a handicapping perspective versus a philosophical, don't look at the teams, bet the number perspective. So I'm excited to see how that one goes. I haven't bet it yet. I haven't bet it. I'm afraid to pull the trigger.

Washington plus two and a half the Los Angeles Chargers. This is when we told people to grab on Tuesday, expecting Jaden Daniels to play. It did get to three at some point on Tuesday. It's back down to two and a half. He was cleared he's going to be playing. I just wanted to raise it because the number had moved

and we now know who the quarterback is. Doesn't feel like it's getting into our top five unless you feel more strongly. Simon says, give me this commander's team. Wow! Call me Simon. What do you want? I want to play a game.

What kind of game? Simon says, Yeah, love, love this game, love this spot. It was really just waiting for it to be Daniels. Even though Marriota has been good, still would have been on it. But in my mind, this probably would have got the three and a half if it was Marietta. The movement to me is right. Had this game honestly is a pick.

And it is because of the injuries to dischargers team. And I got some numbers about this Chargers team. And it's, it's been kind of glaring. And it sucks that I got, I didn't. get it I should have covered we should have covered with that Denver game that was just Herbert pulling a rabbit at hat like he made a throw the way he got biased position that Denver game that throw he made it to like to Keenan Allen in the in the end zone yeah it's like two guys other than him in NFL history can make that throw off balance it's it's why people love Herbert but when I

dive into it it's like okay this is historically a bad spot for Herbert and you can actually throw hardball in that so shockingly when an east coast team comes west hardball He's one and two straight up with this Chargers team, which again, small sample, Herbert 8 and 9 straight up in this exact spot. Now, okay, that doesn't mean much. Now, let's dive into Herbert this season under pressure. Herbert, again, I say it all the time. He is a great quarterback when things are going right with him, right?

When his offensive line's good, he's got the weapons on the outside, just like most guys would be. If you give him time, Herbert will crush your teams, know that. So this year, he's faced 69 dropback pressures. So that's the second most in all football behind Joe Flacco. That's alarming. You don't want to be in the same category as Joe Flacco this season. And so it's like, all right, let's dive in those numbers.

These last three weeks, right? So these last three weeks where his offense line's been banged up, he's 15 of 42, 36% passing when he's under pressure, one touchdown, two picks. So I have these numbers. I'm some douche in Jersey. The Washington Commanders are going to have these numbers. And they've been bullets heavy this year

because they need to be. They don't have the corners to shut teams down. They have really bad corners. And their front seven, though, has been really good this Washington team. I know last week they got rain on, but that's actually been pretty good for them, this front seven. So it's like, okay, that's the way they can attack this Chargers team. They just got to get pressure on Herbert.

Now you're factoring, I like this match for Daniels, where they have injuries themselves as Chargers team to their defense. They don't have linebackers because of guys can keep up or spy Daniels. This is a bad match for them. And what I've read is he could have probably played last week, Daniels. They really wanted to get him right. They didn't want the Purdy situation, right? Purdy came back to really re-injured the injury.

I love that. They were patient with him, and now he's coming back fully healthy in this matchup. So I know the public's going to think is a bounce back spot for this Chargers team. And, you know, this Washington just got blown out. So I just feel like this is going to be a pro spot. Like no, the public is not going to be betting this Commander's spot. They're going to be back in this Chargers team, which, just a week ago

Chad was asking if they're better than the chiefs if I trust them more than the chiefs which at the time I was like I get where you're coming from this is a team that's performed way above than my expectations coming to the season how can we not overact

to the Joel all injury like this guy you're losing your number one number two tackles and they're down more interior offensive alignment that's going to be the killer heels of this team they have

it sucks too because Herbert's got the weapons right keen Allen's turning back the clock Lad's been bad honestly He's been outplayed by Johnson Bad lad Yeah That's been bad

And Johnson's been a stud Like they have three receivers That are all Really good Maybe the best three In the history of football Chaddle Oh no

You're not pulling that old chestnut out again But yeah I just It's about the number I love this match Of this commander's team I think they're being Undervalued

and there's Chargers team Still being They still got that glossy lens on Like they did when they beat that chiefs team, which I was a sucker for it too. It's like if this team was fully healthy right here, at two and a half, all over this Chargers team.

That is not, they're being priced like they're that team that beat the Chiefs. This is not that same team. This is a banged-up team. So, yeah, trust in the number here. Trust on the spot. Hold your nose, people. This is a gross one. Give me this commander's team plus two and a half.

All right. That's why I was sort of, I'm surprised to hear this. I was going to pass it because the number had moved and now we know Daniels. So you're saying take it. Still like it. All right, then it's going on the list. Now I feel like we're going to have a rock and hard place between Denver Eagles and commanders and chargers. Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers, and guess what?

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And for more, follow Timbo Sliced Life 12 and the TikTok podcast network on TikTok. Last game, Kansas City at Jacksonville. I like the Jacksonville Jaguars at three and a half. They are the underdogs at home on Monday night. It hasn't moved to three, but it is headed that way. The wise guys agree with me. As you noted in Sharp Call, you really love the chiefs here. Well, oh, oh, oh, all of a sudden, all of a sudden, the other day, you were all over it, but today, a little bit less confident.

No, Dynast was just me trying to talk to off it. I was like, can I get chat off this game? Because this is going to have to be in our contest now, which sucks. It's like, now I have to. By the way, it doesn't. I don't think it does. Here's why. I don't think it does.

All right. I don't think it does. Because there are so many games this week where lines are fluky, we're going to be able to take advantage. I think that takes precedent to me over do we have to put in a hard game like this? Obviously, I bet it. I definitely bet the Jags at plus three and a half. But do I feel better about choosing the Jags over Denver, which I also bet? Or choosing the commanders, which I also bet?

Like, I don't feel obligated to make this be a game that I am demanding we put in the contest. Chad, nut up. Take a stand here. You love this team. this was your love's level on Tuesday. Like, you're all in. Be all in, brother. I get why you're hesitant.

I mean, that's why I was hesitant here. And I'm like, I see Spaggs, licking his chops in this matchup against Trevor Lawrence, which again, they're winning despite him. They're, it's really about the run game of the turnovers. Like, you go through all the numbers. I think they've already had more turnovers this season. They did all last season.

So, you know, this Jaguar's team, that just might be their defense. It's like we say all the time a new team's going to make the playoffs. The Chags fit that description right now. By the way, did you call them the Chags because I love them so much or was that of just a slip? No, you like that, I just, yeah, I can't get over it. It's like you said, it's the pros. The pros are on it with Chad.

And when we got done our show, I put it in like I've been doing every week. I try to put it in R5 right away and then try to make minimum changes on it, maybe one or two tops out of those five. because like we said, our early reads tend to be the right reads and we overthink it comes Sunday. It's true. So it's going to be hard for me. I say to take them out now because I have them in there. I see your reasoning and this is going to be shaping up to be one of the big public sides. Like I've talked to multiple bookmakers in different states.

And that's a big thing for me. I like hearing from all different states because I don't want to just be regional. It's all chief's money. Everyone's thinking like I am. Like this is such a Spaggs matchup against Trevor. This is a Jaguars team that's been very fortunate. They've gotten away with it. But I view it as, you know, maybe I'm overrating too much of that she's offense against that.

Ravens defense. This is a good defense in this Jaguars team, which I'm coming around on. And there are ways to attack Spag's defense right now because they do have injuries. And they are slower than they've been in the past. So the pros love Chad's number. They love the three and a half. And that to me is the key here. If you're getting the three and a half with the hook, I get it.

Yeah, I won't be betting this one, but I will support your bet in this Jaguar side. Then we're probably going to have to put it in. Because I'm nutting up. No one challenges my ability to nut up. You got to. Simon. Brass balls. If you're right, you're a genus.

If you're wrong, you're a fucking idiot. Isn't that everything, though? That's how I live my life. Duval. So right now, we know we're going to put the Rams in. It's Thursday, just so people know we're putting the Rams in. probably going to put the Texans in because in our contest, the line is at three and a half. We understand you're not going to get that.

We gave incredible discourse on that game. Sunday, we're going to talk about the Saints. We're going to talk about the Jets. We're going to talk about Denver commanders. I mean, the Jags are going to be in. So I'm not sure who we're going to get out. We'll have to figure that out on Sunday. Simon, give me your biggest bets.

All the work, all the talk, all the handicapping is done. It's time for history. It's not going to help people much because it was. I mean, the Rams, obviously, Houston are part of it. So we'll throw those two out. I would say the other ones I'm like heavily bet into right now, commanders. I mean, it's so gross, but it's true. Saints.

And, you know, I'm probably going to have more on it. Like, again, it was the four and a half. I did bet to Denver, but I've been patient on that one. If they get back to four and a half or it gets back to four, that'll probably be another one of my bigger bets. So, yeah, for right now, definitely command. banders. I've really taken a strong position on that one. And I can't believe it. The Saints, I just, they have to. If this has to be the one winner, you know, if they get two wins this

year, this has to be the one that they get. I just can't get over this spot against a rookie on the road here. Once again, Spencer Rattler, not as bad as we perceive. And you're betting into it even with them as favorites. Yeah. No, even in them as favorite, I've been betting it. Like, to me, it's the two that's been, I've been staying away from. Like, there's a couple of books have gotten to the Saints at two. I have zero twos, but I do have a ton of one and a halfs on the Saints team. Got it. All right.

Money line, round Robin, underdog parlay. Like your dog, your dog likes my dog. I would say Panthers, Broncos, Jets. You want to do Broncos? Well, I'm just six lifetime. Okay, how about I'm just throwing out some names. You correct. Now they're going to win just because I have doubt on it.

Exactly. God damn it. Panthers, Broncos. Jets, commanders, who else do we want to put in there? Jags? Oh, my God. That's fair. Let's go all in.

Why not go all in? I'm off that one. I would do, I mean, I have to do it. We got to go, what is it, plus 180 here, the Cleveland Browns. Okay. Got to throw that in there. I mean, it's a gross game, but it's like, that is such a coin flip game. I obviously know the Vikings are going to be, you know, the first.

professional side and the public, like I said, they're all over the Browns, but we've seen historically the chalky, chalky public side has done well international, so I'll just get them in. I don't if we got the jets in there. The jets are up. We got the jets. Here's the teams we have now. I took the Broncos out. So our Moneyline, Ron Robin, Underdog Parley. Panthers, Jets, commanders, Jags, Browns. Let's go. round robin money line favorite parley cardinals cardinals cults bills so the bills are uh bills are yeah we can throw them in there minus two 45 if you want to do the bills minus two and a half uh people in your round robin that's that's probably

better about i just i honestly think they're going to roll the patriots there but just to be safe I know Mac, or not Mac, I shouldn't say that. Drake May, he's 2 and O against the spread of his career against the bill. So he's kept a close in those spots, but me and Chad both agree. This is, we didn't talk much about it. I love that Patriots game so much because if the Patriots win it, this could be the start of something for them as a fan where it's like, you beat the big bad wolf.

Like that is, this is your dream scenario, Drake May, who people are being like, this guy's the greatest quarterback ever. you've seen his stats through three, four weeks. All of that is just noise and bullshit. This is truly defining career season type of game for Drake May where he steals this game. Oh my God. Even pundits like me are going to have to give them a ton of credit,

but this should be a Josh Allen beats the shit out of this Patriots team. So I'm with you. I like them throwing them in there. Cardinals, bills, lions, colts, and I put in Seahawks. Yeah, okay, I'll do that. Money Lion, Round Robin. Cardinals, Bill. Lions, Seahawks, Colts.

Survivor, Arizona Cardinals. Yep, don't think about it. We're doing it. I'm probably going to be on Arizona's number, too. I know it's minus seven and a half, but yeah, I'm just the more I watch this Tennessee team, they look, totally checked out. All right, Sharp versus Square, you won last week.

You had the Rams, I had the Niners. So you get to go first. Who are you going to take? Just going all in on the Saints. I'm going to go to the Saints. Wow. I don't know. I hate it, but I can't do commanders again.

I just gave him out Simon says. Right, I was going to say. Two Simon says in a week is kind of sent me back a little bit because usually I can use my second favorite bet for this, but I'll go my third favorite bet. Give me the Saints. Interesting. I will go with, if we're going to go bad, if you're going to go with the Saints, I'm going to go with the Jets.

There you go. So there we go. Sharp versus Square this week. Jets and Saints. I thought we were going to do Chiefs versus Jags, but it feels like you've walked away from that little bit. And we can, but I don't want to have the jugs in our contest and then have to run for it and I'm like rooting against it. That's true. That's that's very Chad. That's not me. I don't do that at all. You do it all the time. I hate that feeling. I hate all of the feelings.

You know this. Every feeling makes me uncomfortable. Other than unadulterated joy and optimism that ignores all bad news and anything that is uncomfortable, I don't want any other feelings. in life or in betting. Yeah. Got one more stat before we go. I just, I love, someone just literally text me this stat. 49ers pressure rate last week without Nick Bosa, 32nd in the league.

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