The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Sharp or Square - Super Bowl LX Betting Recap & Reaction

Episode Date: February 11, 2026

The Super Bowl was considered a snoozer to some, but it was a non-stop gambling joyride for Seattle Seahawks bettors! Here to discuss the Seahawks' big win over the Patriots is NFL betting expert Chad... Millman and professional gambler Simon Hunter, who recap all the action in an episode sponsored by ZBiotics. Go to https://zbiotics.com/SHARPORSQUARE and use code SHARPORSQUARE at checkout for 15% off any first time orders of ZBiotics probiotics. Together they discuss the show's stellar Super Bowl performance, as they nearly swept the entire betting board. They talk props, including the Seattle defensive touchdown parlay given out by guest Brandon Anderson. We also are joined by Sharp or Square Pro Football Pick 'Em Contest grand prize winner Kingston Chen, who discusses how he came to finish in solo first place over nearly 5,000 over participants. We also discuss producer Matt Mitchell's terrible Super Bowl bad beat, injuries to quarterback Drake Maye and tackle Will Campbell, and so much more. #Volume -- All lines provided by Hard Rock Bet Subscribe to Sharp or Square for gambling advice, best bets, and predictions from sports betting experts Chad Millman and Simon Hunter. Follow on all platforms: https://www.instagram.com/sharporsquare/ https://x.com/SharporSquare_See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:11 We are part of the volume podcast network. This is the show that makes the squares sharper and makes the wise guys pay attention no matter what time of year it is. I am Chad Milman. I'm joined, as always by my BFF, my companion, my confidre, my co-host. professional better. Simon Hunter. Hello, Simon. Chad, how we doing?
Starting point is 00:02:38 Dude. Wow. Wow. Wow. What an incredible Super Bowl. Truly. Incredible Super Bowl. People are complaining that it was boring.
Starting point is 00:02:53 They didn't like it, whatever. For us, I think the second week in row between the second football week in a row. between the AFC title game that was a slog, but we were on the right side, and this game that was a slog, but we were on the right side, we've seen the most beautiful football. We've seen in decades.
Starting point is 00:03:13 We kind of nailed it, right? From the beginning, we love Seattle. From the beginning, we loved Seattle alts. From the beginning, we loved props tied to the Seattle narrative of dominating and New England having to come back. Our guests, Evan Abrams and Brandon Anderson nailed it. Brandon Anderson had the defensive special team touchdown money line parlay that cashed. We're going to go through all of it.
Starting point is 00:03:44 All the categories are final picks. We have a contest winner. Thousands and thousands of contestants signed up. We had one man standing who won it with a five and no record. and the season. He's going to come on the show a little bit later. Before we get to all of it, Simon, I feel like you rarely go online and clap back, but you did on Sunday. Yeah, I'll never, I'll never,
Starting point is 00:04:18 I never try to go up fans just because I get it. We're all irrational and emotional. But my God, we're the Patriots fans loud and obnoxious. And I will admit, we have Patriots fans that came to our live shows up at Hoboken. All class acts, very funny guys, great personized. I mean, Philadelphia, Boston, very similar. People say salt of the earth.
Starting point is 00:04:41 I say scumbags of the earth. I mean, just incredibly similar in many, many ways. And usually, again, most teams, any normal people will have self-doubt. East Patriots fans were so loud and so confident. Cherpy. Pretty chirpy. I immediately, usually I won't call my shot. It was a buildup of Saturday night when I'm out of the books and I had people coming up to me,
Starting point is 00:05:07 Patriots fans running their mouths. And then waking up the messages that morning. Yeah, I got on social media. I just said, these guys are about to get blown out. They're frauds. And Chad knows people in media will never put themselves out on those type of, you know, sticks. Because it's a bad look when it goes the other way. If the Patriots would have blown them out by 20,
Starting point is 00:05:27 would look like an idiot, I knew there was no world, no world that would happen. That's why I was so confident putting that out there because it's, in my mind, the Patriots had a chance and maybe covering in no world that I see them blow out the Seahawks. And like you said,
Starting point is 00:05:42 the game couldn't have gone more to a tee of what we predicted. So obviously got very lucky on that. And yeah, had a couple of drinks, was feeling pretty good after winning a ton of money. And, yeah, hopped on social media and threw a video out there,
Starting point is 00:05:56 trolling these Patriots fans. I meant every word I said of it. So I woke up next morning, rewatch it. I go, nope, not deleting it, no regrets. It meant every word I said of it. But yeah, really, like you said, really fun Super Bowl, and I'm excited to dive into it here. You know, we loved the Seahawks for the whole two weeks, right?
Starting point is 00:06:18 Like, I bet it immediately at minus three and a half the second it opened. And it's funny, you know, our contest winner, we've got an interesting. with him later in the show, ended up not jumping on the side partially because, well, I don't want to spoil it because I wanted people to listen to the interview. But I was a little bit concerned by Sunday morning when the line hadn't exploded to five, five and a half, even to six, as I thought it should, because the Seahawks were just so much better. So I was a little anxious about it. And I was actually on the road for the game. I was doing some book reporting. And I was with someone who's like a market maker on the prediction exchanges for the game.
Starting point is 00:07:04 And I was with this person during the game. And we were watching the pregame show. And they had on, I think it was Kyle Shanahan, I think it was Fred Warner, and then Tony Dungey and Rodney Harrison. And I think Fred Warner and Rodney Harrison went with the Patriots, and I forgot who Tony Dungey did. But Kyle Shanhan just dropped a little hint. I don't know if you saw this or not. I never watched the pregame shows and I could give a shit with the people picking it say. Kyle Shanahan had a really interesting. He's like, I think Seattle could blow this team out.
Starting point is 00:07:44 And then he was the only one who predicted the Seahawks by margin. It was 2417. And if I wanted anybody to sort of give me irrational happiness in that moment, it was Kyle Shanahan, who you know I adore as a coach. And then it was fucking great. It was just, it was awesome. We're going to get into it. We're totally going to get into it. Don't forget.
Starting point is 00:08:06 Let's see. We can, you can get the shows. Little post-super Bowl fog brain here. You can get the shows at Sharper Square on YouTube, subscribe and like the video while you're at it. Also download some Spotify. Apopods, wherever you get your pods. Here's some roundups.
Starting point is 00:08:21 We finished the contest portion of the season. with 24 points. So that was the final, I think it was nine weeks, including the playoffs. That was good enough, Simon, for 375th place. To put it in context, nearly 5,000 people signed up for the contest, which is miraculous in and of itself since it was a late in the season addition to our program. So that 375 was basically good enough for Todd. 8%. I feel okay with that. Like we had we had a tough run there in the playoffs. You know, we we cratered
Starting point is 00:09:03 in the conference final weekend and in the divisional round weekend. So I feel I feel okay coming in where we did considering how bad things turned there for a minute. Yeah, basically did nothing. You just saw the record there. Basically it was 500 since the contest started. So yeah, dug ourselves into a pretty horrible hole and crawled out. And, yeah, luckily, two biggest bets of the playoffs happen to be in the conference championship in the Super Bowl. So I got kind of lucky that it worked out that way. Our contest picks were Seattle minus four and a half cashed, the under 45 and a half cashed. Ramandre Stevenson, under 53 and a half rushing yards, cashed, Drake May, over 19 and a half completions that cashed. The one that lost. The one that lost,
Starting point is 00:09:52 we had the paths plus three and a half in the first half. So we finished four and one in the Super Bowl. Our total contest record for 2025 from the beginning of the season, five picks every week through the playoffs, 60 and 50, 55 percent, basically. You tell me as a professional bet or you can go 55% in the season, you're taking that every time. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:19 But I would say we're both disappointed at that, that the Tennessee Titans dictated our season. Yeah, we were in a contest for a lot of money. And I told Chad, if we had just gone the other way in the Titans,
Starting point is 00:10:33 you'd both be sitting here with half a million dollars. So it's pretty sickening. We had a really good year, but that's how close the margins are. If you just lock in on the wrong team, you can't get it right, you crush yourself.
Starting point is 00:10:45 And yeah, great year, but I am one of those people. I don't remember my wins. I remember everyone. And that's what's going to hurt me in this office season. I'm going to be sitting there. It's going to be, I don't know, May 2nd, 11 o'clock at night.
Starting point is 00:10:57 And I'm like, the damn Tennessee Titans cost a ton of money. It's funny you mention that because we're going to get into that. And by every account, I should have been freaking thrilled with the Super Bowl. But all that's in my head is the two things that kept it from being monster, monster Sunday. Our name bets, Chad's choice was Seattle Altline minus six and a half. half that one. Simon says was the first quarter under eight and a half barely a sweat. There was like a second where it could have been a sweat when when the Patriots played at their best and then it you know went exactly our way. A couple of people ask about that why I blindly bet that every year.
Starting point is 00:11:39 And shout out to our guy Evan Abrams sent me the numbers since the year 2000 in the Super Bowl. First quarter under is now 18.7 and 2. So like I said, every year people, you could bedside you can do all this hard work like i said that tuesday's show put all your money into this bet every year because every year it's a winner these you saw it right the teams come out flat it doesn't matter i mean my favorite stat ever tom brady the goat what was he played in 11 super bowls he has three total points in the first quarter in those 11 super bowl so now so josh mcdn jac jennels yeah yeah that's he is a josh mcdaniel's step but just to remember in the future people 187 and 2 first quarter unders in the Super Bowl since the year 2000. So it's a great bet every year.
Starting point is 00:12:25 Brass balls was New England's first drive being a punt. So we cashed on all these. You just mentioned Evan. I want to call out two particularly the prescient clips from when Evan came on the show two weeks ago. Obviously, everywhere you look, you hear Patriot strength of schedule. I think Seahawks' strength the schedule is also just as important in this game. Only 11 of 120 Super Bowl teams had a harder strength that scheduled than the Seahawks. Those 11 teams went 8 and 3 in the Super Bowl. So I also kind of believe... I like that stat.
Starting point is 00:12:59 That's a good stat. Love that. If you look at the single postseason, I believe Darnold has the fourth highest passerating of any quarterback all time. You look on the other side. Drake May, 113 pass rating during the regular season, down to 84 in the playoffs. I don't really care why that's happened,
Starting point is 00:13:15 but I also think that's baked into why the line maybe isn't three and it's even four and a half and five and getting juiced up at the moment. They've won nine straight. They've covered four straight. Only four other teams have even done that. Nine straight and four straight.
Starting point is 00:13:29 Nine straight wins, four straight covers, entering a Super Bowl. 2016-17 Patriots, barely survivors, the Falcons, but won the gaming covered. 2000 Ravens blew out the Giants. 1986, giants blew out the Broncos. 71 Cowboys blew out the Dolphins. So those teams, nine straight wins, four straight covers, four and O, straight up, four and O against a spread in the. Super Bowl. If you think Seattle's dominant, that's the stat you want to hear. Like, they're just
Starting point is 00:13:55 going to roll away with this one. That's basically what happened, right? I mean, it was just glorious. So, nice job, Evan, nice job Brandon, nice job Simon, nice job, nice job, Chad. One online hateer accused you of wearing a toupee last week because of all of our collective flaws i feel like what you do have is an incredible nest of hair so congrats on your new toupee that you were able to afford after winning so much money on the seattle seahawks yeah definitely watch that clip it just i immediately missed that warmth of that hair i'm not going to lie chad my ears are so cold but yeah i Chad knows I'm crazy superstitious. So if I win my biggest bed of the year on the Broncos,
Starting point is 00:14:49 there's no chance I'm cutting my hair before the Super Bowl. I got to let a ride. But yeah, as soon as I woke up Monday morning, I went and got the haircut. That the hair was too much. It got it gotten too wild. But yeah, I, this game, there's so many avenues to go. I did see the Cal Shane clip you saw just because I think cow heard put a video out
Starting point is 00:15:09 talking about because I think Colin took the Patriots. and he basically was just saying how much regret he had before the game had kicked off because when you hear a guy like Kyle say that, a coach will never say a team has a potential of getting blown out, right? They're in the league. That's what sort of, that's what shocked me. Like you never hear a coach use the term blowout. That was really, really, I mean, these pregame shows are fluff, right?
Starting point is 00:15:35 We talk about it all the time, you know, where the show, the pregame show with the stuff, not the fluff. That was the most interesting thing I've heard in a pregame show. game show in decades. And it's funny because I told chat, I've been complaining to chat about how the college football for the national championship game, they had on, you know, Nick Sabin, the head coach of Notre Dame, like they had on some really brilliant minds and we've been lacking that, in my opinion, on football, right?
Starting point is 00:16:01 Like, not to hate on these talk shows, you're putting on these dudes who are in their 70s, who haven't played NFL in 40 years and they're nonsensical. They literally give you nothing to game. from a guy like Kyle or Sean McVeigh, anytime you hear them speak, you need to listen. Like they are the smartest minds in this sport. And yeah, Kyle had a great line as well that he had, who is he to say anything about it about the Sealks?
Starting point is 00:16:28 He hasn't scored a touchdown on them in the last two times they played, which I love that line where it's like he can be that humble where he knows he's one of the best minds of all football. He couldn't, he can't score on them right now. Like he is in full tilt mode. So, yeah, going to, of this game again i i thought the cx had a chance to the to blow them out i really did base it on i thought in may would struggle to me we got luckier because sam darnald also struggled
Starting point is 00:16:55 yeah those dude every single time he dropped back when it was still close you know in the first half let's say especially those first drives because the way the the the patriots were playing defense they were jumping every route i just thought oh my god this is going to be a recipe for some kind of pick six for the first score that's what it looked like to me i don't know like you saw it the same way but it was scary to me you can tell right away when sam's on or off and immediately could tell he was off because all of his throws were behind or leading nothing was on target the entire game in my Like the entire game, he didn't have any. I mean, Drake May, who played terrible.
Starting point is 00:17:38 He had the best throws of the game, no doubt. Like that throw to Matt Hollow for the touchdown. And I told you going to this game, I knew both both head coaches' mentalities were the quarterback, that's going to dictate who's going to win this game because one of them is going to slip up and make a mistake of a turnover. Sam never was really put in the position for that, right? They had a couple, in the very beginning of Kubiak let him kind of sling it. eventually they just turned right to the run, right?
Starting point is 00:18:04 And even when they got down the red zone, there was a couple of times where they needed like a third and seven to pick up a first down. Sam was taking the third and four throw. It's like he was taking the checkdown to get a go on fourth to be on fourth and three or fourth and two because they were going to settle for the three. Just never put the ball on turnover.
Starting point is 00:18:21 You know, Christian Gonzalez did have a chance at a pick in the end zone right before half. That should have been a walking touchdown. J.S.N. and beat him easy on the route. The ball was terribly late and behind. was almost a pick. So it's like, Sam on his worst game, still through for 20 yards, no turnovers.
Starting point is 00:18:38 On the flip side, Drake May, showed his inexperience what we talked about coming in this. That's what I kept beating home was like, I get a ton of probably better. Their whole point was, I can't believe you're a bet on Sam Darno as a four-point favorite in the Super Bowl. And my whole view was that I can't believe
Starting point is 00:18:52 you're taking Drake May under a seven-point dog against the number one defense. You've seen him struggle now. Three straight weeks against defenses. This is they're going to be the best, defense he's faced. And it proved that. I mean, the way people are talking about the CLX now is ridiculous. Yeah, it's getting a little. They're not, even last year's Eagles team, I honestly think was more impressive because they did against Mahomes and that Chiefs team. Like this, Drake May,
Starting point is 00:19:19 he looked totally out of it from the get-go. Like not like happy feet, bad throws, late throws. We talked about that shoulder injury. I knew as soon as the game ended, something would come out that he was shot up. I knew right away, as soon as he missed that week of practice, it's like they're going to baby and try to keep it cool. He's obviously got a big injury.
Starting point is 00:19:40 And then you saw Will Campbell, who's been dragged through the mud, 14 pressures, NFL record in the Super Bowl. He's playing on apparently a torn ACL or MCL. Like he's going to get surgery or something like that with his knee. I don't know the exact injury, but you knew this guy whose whole draft thing coming out was he has short arms,
Starting point is 00:19:59 but he is so strong. He's impossible to push through every play that you just get bull rush. You could not put any weight on that one leg. So between the May injury, the Campbell injury, like everything about that, I just, I think we were both in sync of we just couldn't find a reason about the Patriots where me and Chad, we want to bet the dogs. We talk all the time. That should always be alarms to people.
Starting point is 00:20:20 We're so heavy into a favorite when we're such heavy dog betters, especially that trend we gave out, right? It was like 10 and 1, the last 11 Super Bowls where the spread was above four and a half. And not that we thought it was due to go the other way, but it was just like, well, this is, I talked about it. I think it had gone the other way. The dog had gotten too much value that we were getting two free points on the favor. That's why me and Chad both took the C-Ux team minus six and a half, right? That's where the value to us was where this line just felt way off.
Starting point is 00:20:50 And, you know, when Sunday morning came, I really did load up on the C-Ux because I just kept, and the more I thought about it, looked into it. It's like, this is such a bad matchup for this Patriots team. but I'm not going to lie. I really did think there was a chance there for them to come back because of all those field goals. Like it was never more than a two-point score game, right? And you saw Drake May, the armed talent,
Starting point is 00:21:13 he can strike fast, but, you know, we talk all the time, the game changer, the thing that decides these games and the quarterbacks are their turnovers. And Drake May, two picks, one fumble. You know, it's just they were in an impossible scenario. And at the end of the day, I don't know about you, but I am one of the people that I do blame Vrable and Josh McDaniels.
Starting point is 00:21:32 I think they totally got out-coached. Scheme-wise, they failed, and I hated how Vrable was playing this game where he was playing to keep it close rather than try to win. Like, I get it. You're not going for a fourth and one in your own 39 because it's a 9-0-0-0-0-0,
Starting point is 00:21:49 or a 12-0 game. But that 12-0-0, I don't know, but you watch it at home, it felt like that was 40-0. It's like, you guys came to get a field goal let it go in a touchdown. So I really do question Ravel the most coming out of that game where I hated the way he coached it. He played too soft and kept thinking Sam Donald's will make the mistake. I'm going to be able to get back in this game where I just thought the other way.
Starting point is 00:22:11 The Seahawks were never going to let Sam Dornan make that mistake. And that's where he messed up. Well, that was the flip side of why we loved Seattle so much. We truly believed that what we had seen over the pre-year-old. previous three or four weeks in the way Seattle was calling the games, they really weren't going to let him be in a position to screw it up. They had to win big against the Rams, but they had really started to figure out how to get Sam Darnal to not be making mistakes. I agree with you. First quarterback started to go to your first quarterback in NFL history, zero turnovers
Starting point is 00:22:49 through the playoffs. He was amazing. Yeah, crazy. It was totally amazing. He tried to make some turnover in the regular season, zero in the playoffs. He tried, he tried to make some turnovers. He tried to make some turnovers in the Super Bowl. He really did. Collins was like, he's a real gunslinger. It's like, please stop saying that, Collins. Christian, Christian Gonzalez was out of his head that game.
Starting point is 00:23:08 I mean, he was like Lester Hayes, just knocking every ball. He was the best player in the killer than Walker. He was unreal. The, the, and there was one play, I think it was towards the end of the first half, where the Seahawks could have gone up 12-0 with a field goal. And to your point, 12 might as well. have been 40 in this game. And they did let Sam Darnold try to throw like a short out that if he was a little bit
Starting point is 00:23:37 behind on that throw, that's a pick six. And so Kubiak did let him stretch a little bit. For the most part, it was, you know, give it to Kenneth Walker because they had found some kind of success where they were able to run against this pitch and defense. He was amazing in this game like you. I loaded up on the Seahawks, but, but I loaded up on the Seahawks, not all at three and a half or four and a half, which was available. I did three and a half. I did four and a half. I did six and a half. I did nine and a half. I did 13 and a half. I did 21 and a half and 25 and a half. So my line of demarcation for break-even on all of those bets was, I think, 10.
Starting point is 00:24:33 If they won by 10, I was at least making money on those bets. And then it escalated from there. They ended up winning 2913, I think it was 16. So I ended up getting the 13 and a half as well. And to your point about like what you remember, you know, they were up 297. They were up 22 points. It ends like that.
Starting point is 00:25:02 If the Patriots don't get that garbage touchdown, I'm having maybe the best weekend I've ever had as a better in my entire life. Because, well, just because like everything was compounding, right? And by the time it got to like Seattle minus 21 and a half or something, I think it was like plus 600, right? And so like the biggest one was Seattle minus 25 and a half at plus 1,200, which I wasn't going to get. But then after they had that touchdown, Kenneth Walker breaks it for a long run.
Starting point is 00:25:39 They're up 36, 13, and it gets called back for a holding penalty. And it crushed me because now all of a sudden, Like what could have been a miraculous, amazing, glorious, never had a day like this in my life. I took a side. I went all in on that side. I used all of our lessons. And some guy held someone.
Starting point is 00:26:10 And it just cost me that extra, you know, the final two legs of that ladder, which was rough. I'm not going to lie. It makes you feel better. that was like a six-k, not six-figure swing for me. Because I had a ton of parlayes tied to the under. And, yeah, I basically, I'm pretty sure I gave it on the show.
Starting point is 00:26:34 Mack Hollins, anytime touchdown hit, which was really lucky. And obviously Seattle defense. Yes. I always parlay the defenses that I bet on the teams with. And, yeah, that was a nice payout as well. So, yeah, for me, you know, between Denver and the Super Bowl, close to a seven figure into the season and between my clients and my
Starting point is 00:26:55 group a nice 10 I mean eight figure I should say end of the season and going to get a really nice bonus hopefully see what that'll be I need golds at an old time high so I'm probably not going to get any gold but yeah having fun trying to figure out what I'm going to get paid out
Starting point is 00:27:11 and just because you know these these are long seasons few form between great seasons and you had to end that way in the last two games obviously is a great feeling and especially a game like this where, you know, confidence can always leak, especially when you have two weeks leading up to a game. And yeah, neither of us really wavered, honestly.
Starting point is 00:27:31 Like even talking about the sharp calls and how I was shocked here, some of our professionals, the most shocking thing was to watch from that show, which was Thursday to Friday to Saturday to Sunday, how the money came flowing in on the Patriots. And basically by kickoff, I think it was like 56, 57% of the bets. and money were on the Seahawks. And obviously, 43% was on the Patriots, which blew my mind that that many people late
Starting point is 00:27:58 came in on the Patriots and were feeling so confident about them. And yeah, you said you were worried about how the line had a budge. I was the other way where it's like, a couple of books had gone to five here in Jersey. And I immediately was just like, okay, money's pouring in here on this Patriots team.
Starting point is 00:28:15 And I still know other groups like me taking positions on the Seahawks team. and now the number is moved against it, it moved up as well. This is like alarm bells. I told you the books were stuck. They could not go to six and a half, in my opinion on this yuck, because they would have shown their ass. They would have shown this is potential to be a blowout if they would have moved it.
Starting point is 00:28:34 And yeah, the books are going to say they didn't do great. I think that's a lot to do with the predictive markets and then being dinosaurs and being slow to adjust to the new current market. But overall, you know, that was a great i'm assuming a great super bowl for the books because you didn't get the you know you didn't get all the big touchdown guys right like jason didn't score i know walker heard him obviously but uh and the total went under and you had a blowout so um yeah it's like we always said the public does win and they got smoked the regular season they got their revenge for sure here in the playoffs
Starting point is 00:29:15 and especially on this game but this was definitely we talked about it was the it was a very public side we knew that going in and yeah props to us we didn't let it bang us off chat we stayed stayed to it and my god we ripped the rewards from it we totally stayed focused good for us hope everyone listened uh let's hear from our friends at hard rock bets today's show was brought to you by our presenting sponsor hard rock bet florida's sports book i know it's tough with no football but like The song says, I bet I will survive with hard rock bet. There's always something to bet on every night. Hoops, hockey and so much more, plus all the great same game parlay live betting
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Starting point is 00:31:17 Hey, it's us to Jonas Brothers, and guess what? We have some big news. What's the news? Huge news. We created our own podcast called Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it.
Starting point is 00:31:29 We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Oh, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names. of our band before Jonas Brothers
Starting point is 00:31:51 was... This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast where people could call in and say, Hey, Jonas.
Starting point is 00:32:00 And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app,
Starting point is 00:32:11 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Hey, I'm George Adano. You might know me as that loud guy. who yells out, help on the internet. Help! Somebody! Please!
Starting point is 00:32:24 But there's so much more to me than me. I'm an actor. I'm a comedian. And recently, I've become quite the helper myself. And on my new podcast, Hope from a Hypocrite, I'll be changing lives, helping people in need with my sage advice and thoughtful solutions. Sike! I'm a comedian! I'm not qualified to give good advice.
Starting point is 00:32:44 Join me and my comedian friends as we riff rant and recommend some of the most legally-dily-duty. dubious advice known to man. If I'm calling you, even if you're on your phone, let it ring twice. One ring is too scary. Oh, cream a chicken suit. Hey, cream a chicken suit.
Starting point is 00:33:03 This is Help from a Hypocrite, the worst advice from the dumbest people you know. Listen to Help from Hypocrite as part of the My Cultura Podcast Network available on the IHart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The story I've told myself about love or relationships can then shape my behavior, and that can lead me to sabotage the possibility of connection. This Mental Health Awareness Month, tune into the podcast deeply well with Debbie Brown and explore the journey of healing, self-discovery, and returning to yourself. We explore higher consciousness, emotional well-being, and the practices that help you find clarity, peace, and self-masters. in a world that can feel overwhelming. The world is becoming lonelier. We're not becoming more social and connected.
Starting point is 00:33:53 We're becoming more individualized, but we actually need people in connection. If you've been searching for a soft place to land while doing the work to become whole, this podcast is for you to hear more. Listen to deeply well with Debbie Brown from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Will Ferrell's Big Money Players and IHeart Podcast presents soccer moms. So I'm Leanne. This is my best friend Janet.
Starting point is 00:34:22 And we have been joined at the hips since high school. Absolutely. Now a redacted amount of years later, we're still joined at the hip. Just a little bit bigger hips, wider. This is a podcast. We're recording it as we tailgate our youth soccer games in the back of my Honda Odyssey. With all the snacks and drinks. Sidebar.
Starting point is 00:34:40 Why did you get hard seltzer instead of beer? Oh, they had a bogo. Well, then you got it. Do you want a white collar or something? Here, just a second. What are y'all doing? Microphones? Are you making a rap album?
Starting point is 00:34:50 Oh, I would. Come on. I would buy it. Cuts through the defense like a hot knife through sponge cake. That sounds delicious. Oh, you're lucky. I'm not a drug addict. You're lucky I'm not an alcoholic.
Starting point is 00:35:04 You are. I'm lucky I'm not a killer. I love this team, and I'm really trying to be a figure in their lives that they can rely on. Oh. Oh. Listen to soccer moms. the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas.
Starting point is 00:35:22 And I'm C.J. Toledano, and our podcast, Point Game is about defying the odds. Like LeBron heading into the playoffs without Luca and Austin Reed. And finding ways to win no matter what. He's the smartest player to ever play the game. His IQ is at a level that we've never seen before. And he knows. Without Luca and Austin Reeves, I got to manipulate the game. We get a player's perspective on the challenges of the playoffs. I think Joker's going to be exhausted this series
Starting point is 00:35:48 because when they don't have Rudy in the lineup, he has to really guard guys like Nas Reid. He has to guard Julius Randall. And then he has to give us everything he gives us on the night-to-night basis on offense. And when IT's friends stop by, like Quentin Richardson, we dive into some playoff history too. Steve Nash would get that thing.
Starting point is 00:36:05 That man, hell get the flying. He running up the court, licking his fingers while he got the ball, like, after you go through a training camp with that, I say, You figure it out real quick. Get your ass up and down the court, and you're going to get the ball. So listen to Point Game on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right.
Starting point is 00:36:25 Producer Matt Mitchell, he's going to join us right now because he has, while we are giving ourselves so many bouquets of flowers for our brilliant Super Bowl analysis and the courage to go with a dominant team at my multiple levels. Matt Mitchell has a Super Bowl bad beat to bring us back down to Earth. Chad, I had a great Super Bowl. It was absolutely my most profitable game of the entire NFL season, which is not common. Usually the Super Bowl is not the payload that I, that I wanted to be. It's always a mixed bag, right? It was great. I got everything I needed, right? Except for the two lottery tickets that I scratched, which are so stupid. And so, easy to understand, because I don't usually love bad beat stories. I love turning the Super Bowl into a game of roulette by picking exact outcomes.
Starting point is 00:37:23 So I took Seattle to win by exactly 12, and I took Seattle to win by exactly 22. Very uncommon, and they both paid 100 to 1. I bet on both of them, and I got to experience the absolute torture chamber. of seeing not one of them, but both of those differentials in the fourth quarter of a Super Bowl blowout in which basically after each after each one was established, no team had a real either possibility or incentive to score first at 197 and I thought, boy, this could really be the last, that could be it. And then I'm like, okay, the last, all the other bets I needed, I go, what would really be great is a Seattle defensive.
Starting point is 00:38:13 touchdown, regular extra point, and then I'll get to 22. It'll be 297. And the next play, I got exactly that. Nobody caught him. I felt like my soul left my body. And I was watching myself watch that play from above. I gamble a lot. I gamble every, I had been on six Olympic women's hockey games already. I gamble, I gamble a lot. That experience of being. like I feel like I'm being lifted above towards heaven. And then the goddamned patriots are like, oh, now we're pulling out all the stops. And I do, I want to call out Drake May, who's goddamn shoulder, you know, didn't hurt with four minutes to go in the fucking Super Bowl. And fraught former Buffalo Bill, Stefan Diggs, who had a much worse night than I did.
Starting point is 00:39:13 holding on to a ball in the red zone after getting rocked and spinning the ball as if only to me to set up the touchdown. So to Drake May and to Stefan Diggs for helping to ruin a 100 to 1, 297 perfect final score. I want to send to you this message. I would like to rear up and jackknife my legs and kick you both in the fucking jaw with my footbone. I wish my foot would go right through your skull. Do you drink before you came here? No, but I'm going to start drinking.
Starting point is 00:39:50 And then I'm going to come back and light you on fire. We remember the bad beats. We just do. It was a glorious game. I'm glad we got to watch it. We want to bring on right now. We want to do actually one quick word from our friends at Zbiotics. And then we've got an interview with our contest winner.
Starting point is 00:40:12 Matt, the football season is over. No more getting up early on Sunday mornings to record a show. Looking forward to free and easy Saturday nights, enjoying some cocktails with our friends and family. Despite our incredible grit and resolve, we don't bounce back like we used to. And you've got kids to deal with every morning. That used to mean choosing between a great night or a great next day.
Starting point is 00:40:40 But that was before we tried pre-alcohol. Zbiotics, pre-alcohol probiotic drink is the world's first genetically engineered probiotic, invented by PhD scientists to tackle rough mornings after drinking. Here's how it works. When you drink, alcohol gets converted into a toxic byproduct in the gut. It's a buildup of this byproduct, not dehydration. That's sublime for rough days after drinking. Pre-alcohol produces an enzyme to break down this byproduct. Just to remember to make pre-alcohol your first drink of the night. Drink responsibly and you'll feel your best tomorrow. Matt, you've got a special occasion coming up this week. Tell us about how you're going to manage this. Well, Chad, as you know, at the end of this week, I turn 41. And so I'll be going to a fancy restaurant, enjoying cocktails with more than two ingredients,
Starting point is 00:41:39 all the fanciest things. And I'm definitely going to make pre-alcohol part of my routine. You just open up their fancy little box. Comes in these little airplane bottles. I just knock one back about an hour before I start. And the next morning, which is Valentine's Day for me, a lot of obligations there. I feel great. I'm able to do all the things I want to do.
Starting point is 00:42:02 I've got loads of energy. It's going to be great. And I know it's just a few weeks before you're what I assume is, you know, 65th, 75th birthday at the end of this month too. So I would highly recommend it. Yeah, I'm in training as we speak. Listen, I'm excited you're going to be do that. Enjoy the best nights of the football season without sacrificing a great morning.
Starting point is 00:42:24 Start your night with Zbiotics, pre-alcohol, wake up, clearheaded, focused, and better than ever. Go to zbiotics.com slash sharper square. Now you'll get 15% off your first order when you use Sharper Square at checkout. plus it's backed by a 100% money back guarantee so there's no risk. Subscriptions are also available for maximum consistency. That's zbiotics.com slash sharper square and use the code sharper square at checkout for 15% off. As promised a very special treat, we're being joined by the Grand Prize winner of the Sharper Square Pro Football Pickham Contest, presented by our friends at Hard Rock Bat, who are so appreciative.
Starting point is 00:43:07 of, by the way, that they were willing to organize this contest and put together the prising very late in the season because we know long-time listeners of the show have enjoyed doing it. And that includes our winner, Kingston Chen from the great state of New Jersey, the Bayonne brother. I love New Jersey. Kingston, how you doing, buddy? I'm doing great.
Starting point is 00:43:39 Thank you guys for this interview. I'm so glad you did the contest. I'm so glad you are the grand prize winner. You went 5 and 0 in the last week of the contest. Tell us how you did it. A lot of the credit has to go to the Sharpen Square podcast. I don't have my own models. I don't have research trends.
Starting point is 00:43:59 So a lot of my insight and rationale behind those picks come from you guys. Damn straight. Yep. What did you end up doing for your final five? If I remember, I think I picked the total under. I did the first half under. I also had Sam Donald throwing for under 1.5 touchdowns. JSN having no receiving touchdowns
Starting point is 00:44:27 and Ramondric Stevenson under for the rushing yards. Wow. So you didn't even do one of the sides? In my heart, I felt that Seattle was a better team, and I honestly felt they were going to blow out the Patriots. But then the episode winning up to the Super Bowl, you guys were talking about how a lot of the sharps were on the Patriots. So that gave me some doubt. And ultimately, I just decided it was better just to avoid who was going to cover or who was going to win the game altogether. Simon, you talked him out of the easiest bet of the day.
Starting point is 00:45:04 Well, he did take a sharp side, taking the under, right? So at least he did follow some of the sharp with taking the under. And he didn't follow the sharps by taking the Patriots. So I feel like he did well. He picked his spots. That's what's all about, right, Chad? Picking your spots. You pick your spots.
Starting point is 00:45:19 All in all, he made some very sharp choices, right? Like you and I had debated the Jackson Smith and Jigba under half a touchdown. So basically no touchdowns. We had talked about the Sam Darnold, like the under. Those were the sharp sides. We were with them on the. under in the Ramandre Stevenson, under his total rushing yards. Here's what's interesting to me, Simon.
Starting point is 00:45:40 I'd like Kingston to explain himself here. You say you don't do models, you don't do a ton of research, you mainly just listen to me and Simon throughout the year, and that's how you come up with your five picks. And congratulations, again, on winning. How is it that you're gleaning from whatever we're saying better talent and information than Simon and I are getting for whatever we're saying. I mean, it comes down to luck, right? I went 5 and 0, but easily could have just went three or two or two and three, you know.
Starting point is 00:46:15 The game could have easily went over on the total if that Kenneth Walker touchdown wasn't called back to a flag. If Sam Donald didn't miss JSN on that throw where I think you got to step on Gonzalez, as easily as I won the contest, I could have just also easily lost. Just thank you to Hard Rock Beck for sponsoring this contest. It was super fun. Even if I didn't win, I still think it was really, really fun. And I hope moving forward that they would do more contests like this.
Starting point is 00:46:42 As long as we have a show, there's going to be a contest. I'm holding our sponsor to it. I think they saw how great it was. They saw how many people signed up literally many, many thousands. That's what's interesting here, Kingston. Look at us, Simon. Sharper Square. Just bringing joy and happiness to Kingston's life.
Starting point is 00:47:02 Kingston, congratulations on finishing number one in the Sharper Square Pro Football Pickham Contest. Great job finishing 5 in the year. Great job on listening to me and Simon and figuring up what we were saying better than Simon and I actually figured out. Thanks for playing, brother. Thank you so much. I just want to thank you guys. Like I said, I've been following the podcast for like two years and every new episode, I always learned something new. Wish you guys continue success moving forward. You're welcome back on the show anytime. You're much nice those people. Thank you, brother. Thank you. Thank you. All right. Thank you, Kingston Chen. Brilliant, brilliant season. Congrats to you. I hope you enjoy the free trip to Hard Rock in Florida.
Starting point is 00:47:49 I was just there. Amazing property. For those wondering about the upcoming schedule, especially those new to the show, we got a lot of new listeners. We still have new episodes every Tuesday and Thursday. It's a lot of NFL talk, a lot of NFL offseason, free agency, draft, futures. We do do other sports. We're going to have special guests. It'll be great. Stick around. It's still going to be me and Simon talking about all the fun things that we like to talk about related to the betting world. This has been Sharper Square, part of the volume podcast network. We do want to thank everybody. From a wild beginning, where we went from deciding we were joining the Volume Podcast Network
Starting point is 00:48:39 to launching a new show in a span of about 96 hours before the opening week of the NFL season to now, what is it, six months later, we're through a Super Bowl. Thanks to everybody who found us, who stuck with us, who joined us, who came along for the ride. It was a glorious, glorious season. We hope we'll stick around for the rest of the offseason. We talk about all these things that I just talked about. A lot of NFL futures talk. We will be back on Thursday morning with a special NFL offseason mailbag episode. Watch or listen on YouTube at Sharper Square. Like this video. Subscribe to the channel. Download some Spotify appapause. Where we get your pause rate, review, subscribe, leave us five stars. Say whatever you want. Feedback is a gift. Until next time,
Starting point is 00:49:29 Love you. The one's a bad call, and I was upset at that bad call over there until I saw your bad call. Your bad call. Trump's that bad call. What the hell is the problem? Hey, guys, it's us. The Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe.
Starting point is 00:49:46 I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick. And guess what? We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We get to ask people to do podcasts.
Starting point is 00:49:57 We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions. Well, sick and tired is a strong way to be. put it, but, you know, tired and sick. Tired and sick. Listen to Hey Jonas on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it.
Starting point is 00:50:13 What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas. And I'm C.J. Toledano. It's our favorite time of the year on our podcast point game, the playoffs. We're digging into the biggest surprises of the season. And I'm looking back on some of my greatest playoff moments. If we didn't talk ever again, I was part of it. You just understood.
Starting point is 00:50:28 That's how personal it got. Wow. Then after that game seven, Marquis keep coming to. He's like, you know, I love it. You know, it's all love. This was just playoffs. This was just basketball. So listen to Point Game on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This week on Crimless, Rory and I welcome a very special guest. When I did podcasts, I wear my sleep masks.
Starting point is 00:50:49 I like where this is going. So if you guys will indulge me. That's right, the incredibly talented and hilarious Will Ferrell on an episode dedicated to crimes committed by people named Will Ferrell. You're good for 300 crimes? Yeah. We got two. I'm ready to go right up to present day. Listen to Crimless on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
Starting point is 00:51:16 Your husband is not who you think he is. Your body is not what you thought it was. Your identity is formed by a secret history. I'm Danny Shapiro. And these are just a few of the stunning stories I'll be exploring on the 14th season of family secrets. He kind of shoved me out of the way and said, move. And he went out the front door and he jumped in a car and drove off. And that was the last time I saw him.
Starting point is 00:51:39 Listen to season 14 of Family Secrets on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an IHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human.

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