The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Show Me Something - Sophie Cunningham on WNBA leadership & lockout, Napheesa Collier, Caitlin Clark + Fever playoff exit

Episode Date: October 3, 2025

Sophie Cunningham and West Wilson break down a fiery week in the WNBA — from brutal officiating and lack of league accountability to Minnesota Lynx star Napheesa Collier calling out leadership in a headline-making exit interview. Sophie reacts to Cathy Engelbert’s comments on Caitlin Clark, talks about why players feel disrespected, and warns that a lockout could be coming. Plus: Indiana Fever’s roller-coaster season review, Las Vegas Aces vs. Phoenix Mercury Finals predictions, celebrity All-Star moments, benches-clearing kickball drama, Chiefs vs. Ravens, and why online dating might be broken.All lines provided by Hard Rock Bet#VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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And I think a lot of people think we're just talking. we are our union right now is as strong as it's ever been and it's super exciting guys welcome to episode 10 of the show me something podcast one of our sadder I don't even know if that's a word um but like more sad episodes um I have a little cold and the fever season has come to and in both devastating uh parts of our week but I think we can all say we went farther than we thought we would. I thought, yes.

I thought that we would have... Yeah. I don't want to say this. Like, if you're looking at the competition, we should have been done. I don't even know if we should have made playoffs with the amount of injuries and everything. We did.

And then we took a team that's won two times in the past, I think three years. They have five Olympians on their team. We took them to overtime. MVP on their team. Like, yep. Which, dude,

they could not miss a goddamn shot in overtime. Oh, you're talking about Gray, Chelsea Gray? She came in clutch for him. But I will say she had two heaves and Dana Evans had a heave that they weren't even looking at the room just threw it from their hip and it went in.

Like, no. It's all good. That one when the shot clock was running down was nnarly. Yeah, I mean, we'll get into the game. We'll get into the season.

But also, We had to hop on this pod because our good friend, Nafisa, dropping absolute nukes on the WNBA League, which I should already say, your Instagram comment, you're already going to get fined. I assume you're going to let it rip here, but basically the WNBA,

there's a lot of dialogue going on right now as we head into finals week. And I think this is going to be a good episode. Despite shooting 100% at my celebrity basketball game, it is a Sophie Cunningham episode. So wait, real quick, were you one for one? Because I know you hit that first layup. Yeah, I made the first bug and I didn't, and I didn't shoot the rest of the game, baby.

So you didn't get your stat line. Did you get your stat line from last week? No, the game, it like went way faster than I thought. They ended up being 12 minute halves and it was a running clock. So it was like, and we subbed. So it was like, you gotta keep it moving. I think we should just check in. Season is over.

How do you feel? I mean, tough way to go out. but like, I don't know. How are you feeling today? How do you feel waking up? Honestly, it's so crazy because I think if the whistle would have gone just a couple more plays our way, we would be in the finals. Like, I'm not even kidding.

And that is something. Oh, because Alia fouled out, huh? Like, who, I mean, that was brutal. And two or three of her fouls were just bullshit. it. And my thing is, too, you've got to know who's in the game. Awful. Awful, awful. And, like, people come to watch, watch these players. She's an All-Star. You don't foul out an All-Star in the finals. Like, that's where it just gets me. Like, that is, you don't do that. People aren't paying money to come watch you ref a game to sit in All-Star's

ass on the bench. What are we doing? Like, I'm sure someone from Vegas would be like, oh, like, classic excuse. That is... Very much a thing, though. Like, you're trying to grow a product, grow a league. We're not fouling out All-Stars on a big state. Like, if she was, if they were like techs or she was like hacking people under the rim, whatever. But yeah, those were go either ways.

And like, I didn't even think about that until you just brought that up. And there was a clip. It was like a two-minute video going around of all the fouls that they did not call on their all-stars or their players. And it was like, you, like, you knew the agenda. Like, they made it too obvious. And, you know, I think the rest, they truly do have a hard job. And at the end of the day, like, everyone is texting them just trying to get clarity of

why is this called, why is this not called? And at the end of the day, like, they respond, well, this meets the criteria. Well, then the criteria needs to change. If our game is growing and it's changing, then our criteria can't be from the 1700s. Like, let's go. Let's get with the times a little bit. And I think we want the league to be more physical. But at this point, how the season has been going, like the regular season, that's really the physicality playoff basketball should be. Like, we're out there killing each other. Everyone's getting injured. Like, that's not fun for the fans to watch. It's not fun to play.

Like, keep basketball basketball, because we are very highly skilled competitive basketball players who are very elite at our craft, that's what people want to see. They don't want to see us hacking each other. And I know that's coming for me, but I do that to make a point that, like, call the first fucking 15 fouls. Like, what are we doing?

My biggest question for you then would be, like, why do we think? And I know where it starts and we will address Kathy later, but like, why is the officiating in the WNBA so much more inconsistent than other leagues? Is it they don't go through,

training that other officials do? Is it that they're not held accountable? Is it that there's not like strict, like a rulebook for the WNB? Like, why do we find it? Like, what about it? It's clearly not just you. There are so many people upset with officiating in the WNBA. Clearly, the fact that someone just had to make a full PSA for exit interview.

And you don't even have to know the answer. I just like, what's the root of it? Where does it come from? don't know all the answers and I am I am having these conversations to try to get clarity of where we should as a league take this because I think it's from top to bottom when it comes to coaches, assistant coaches, players from one to 12 to 13 on the roster. Like we are all saying the same thing. We're all saying the same thing. Like it's not just two or three people saying it here. And you know what? To be honest, like I hate to

compare it, but this is just facts. I would love to know the criteria that MBA refs have to meet compared to what WMBA rests have to be like. You know, like, well, what is the comparison there? And like, I truly do think that like there, I said this today in my exit interview that I think that we have a lot of smart business like people in the league, which wonderful, you're great at business, but they don't know shit about basketball. And that is a huge, huge problem. And so I think they do as best as they can, but I think it's on us players that when we retire or if it's people who aren't pros but still played at the collegiate level or

have some sense of playing the game and having a brain, that they need to start maybe investing into these positions to make the next generation even better than what it is for us. And so I think it's just continuing to have those conversations of how do we improve the officiating. Again, their job is hard. Their job is very hard. I would never want their job. But I do think there needs to be some accountability, some open lines of efficient communications. Because at the end of the day, they're part of our game.

Like, we want them to feel good and be proud that they're officiating in the W. And you know what? Maybe if we gave them more money, they would. feel maybe more invested where they wouldn't have to go. Because I know the W-Refs, they also officiate college. You know, right? They're in the Big Ten, the SEC. They're...

Oh, well, then that's your first fucking problem. Yeah, they're working... Like, they shouldn't have to be double-dipping in other leagues. That's like... I know. Because aren't the rules... Like, there's different ways to call the game. Like, people are...

Okay, well, problem number one. Also, I'm going to say it. They have to wear those tight-ass. I wouldn't want to wear that. tight-ass fucking shirt that they have to wear either. Like the child's medium dry fit shit.

Yo, I'll work on their actual calling. You work on the fits. That's how we're going to make this league better in this podcast. I'll design some WNBA ref shirts and then maybe we'll get some more, I don't know, some people out. Obviously, Nefisa Colliers

was it an exit interview, I guess, with Minnesota media. basically just before a question was even asked, called out your commissioner and said that, like, I mean, she said a lot of things. But I would say the biggest sentiment was, one, officiating is a huge issue that's not addressed or taken seriously by the league.

And then two, that the upper, how do I want to call it? I don't want to just single out, Kathy, but like, the important people in the WNBA don't give a shit about the players. And in no way, shape, or form as she's shown any empathy or ability to recognize what this new generation of Hoopers are doing for the WNBA, mostly CC, but the Angel page, et cetera. So first off, I'm sure you watch the speech because you've already talked shit on the internet.

But what did you think of that speech? Because I found it, that takes balls. That takes big fucking balls to do what she did. And I think when you have players willing to put their neck out on the line like that to, like, make a statement, clearly something can be fixed and something can be better when players are. making that big of her risk. So I guess just thoughts on our speech and I'm going to regret saying this, but feel free to talk about Kathy.

Well, you know what? I'll actually, I think I've kind of said my thoughts, but I think at the end of the day, everyone's fed up, fed up with how the league is treating us. And if you hear how our CBA negotiations are going, it shows you how disrespectful and like they should feel ashamed of themselves for for what they're giving back to us because it's nothing it is nothing they're not listening and the thing is they're not even engaging with us not even engaging like it is it is bad and so when when we're

talking about a lockout or a strike i think i was just going to ask is a lot like is that thing? Yes, because I'm 100% am because to the media and I think to the world it does take a lot of balls for what Nefisa did and you see that all of us are backing her because we've been feeling this way and it was just a matter of time until someone

said something and the fact that it was her one of the star players that everyone knows in the WMBA and like where she's at on our Players Association board on the exec. is huge, huge. And like everyone is backing her, but it's because we're, us as players,

we are fed up with how the league is treating us. Like, it is awful. And like, I just can't, I'm not allowed to talk about details about the CPA quite yet. But when we do, you are going to be shook. Shook to the core. Like,

is, am I allowed to ask you if that's in, compensation is that in I think I mean I assume that's the main thing but like the biggest thing is revenue share so like I'm I think all of us are agreement that like our salaries should be tied

to the business that we bring in and it is not at all right and like but it's not even close it is the most disrespectful percentage that you that I don't I think any league has ever seen like it is just where do they want the money

go. I just know that they I mean like well if it's not going like is it going back into. Dude I could I literally the league or is it like hiring it's not hiring executives

because we've had the same people on board for fucking 27 years. Yeah. Like what are we doing? Like I just I just think there's so much room for improvement and my thing is like I know Nefisa said this and I think other players have since

said this but we talk about it all the time that like we we want to keep the W in business. Like we want the W to thrive. Of course. Like this is the best momentum the W has ever had. And it's time to capitalize on it. Like why are we not working together to push this league further than any league has ever seen for female sports?

Because we have that potential. I'm just, I'm just curious what her, why she's so. afraid of Caitlin or like why would you not embrace someone like that and just be so dismissive of

she said she's luck what was the quote she told Nefisa she said she's lucky she wouldn't make all this money without the platform we give her which is first off just not fucking true she signed a didn't she sign a Nike deal

and a TV deal before she left Iowa dude what are we doing the most successful leagues in the world we live in are the fuck an NBA, MLB, NFL. Like, they embrace their fucking stars. It's like, it's like the kindergarten lesson

for owning a fucking league. It's like, these are who people buy jerseys of and what networks want to fucking play your shit. Like, even to like, I mean, she probably didn't know if he was going to give that speech, but like, to be so dismissive of

arguably your best player in the face of your league is like so bonkers. I don't know where you even are coming from And I guess because I looked her up the other night And I was wondering, she's been the commissioner for ever And I wonder if maybe in the beginning stages of the WNBA When I mean you guys had stars

But it wasn't on this level like Is it almost like an ego thing where she Thought that maybe she was like On the Mount Rushmore of current WNBA Like important important faces and now that there's so many of you guys, she like doesn't like, it's just weird and I don't know what logic

there is to behaving like that. Because there is none. Great leaders want to see other people be more successful than them. They want to make sure that they're cared for. Like there can be a very, and I get it. She's the business side of it. Like I get it. But you can be respectful and treat your product, the product of why people are paying attention, why people are buying certain jerseys,

treat your product with respect. Like, be a great leader. She's not. She's not in any sense. And it's just the disrespect is just crazy to me. But honestly, I think this is just such a pivotal point in the WMBA because there are so many eyes on us. There's so many new fans.

There's millions of millions, I should say, new fans. And at the end of the day, she's worried about her. and all of her statements it's all like well I got us here and I should Kathy no one cares literally no one cares like how you're sitting right there that's how we feel every time she speaks

every time she speaks us as players that's how we feel am I allowed to read your Instagram comment or do you want that put behind us? No go read it did you have to delete it? No hell no um

why I don't know. You've been fine so much. You'll for sure get fine for that way, you're not? I mean, I'm out of season, so I don't think they can find me anymore. Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers. And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, name? Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast. Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it.

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But obviously, I think all of this dialogue coming from, if he says, good. I just, at this point in time, I feel like the right thing to do would be just put your ego down for one second. Like, anyone's going to be offended when people talk shit on you. Duh. but like you are a leader amongst a bunch of women and a bunch of women who are growing something huge in our country. I think it would be beneficial to like take a second,

look in the mirror and realize like, could I be doing things differently and better? But I feel like she's so reactive and like defensive when people call her out for shit that like, dude, like, I find it all about. And we don't understand this forever, but like I look at us now. Like whatever Nefisa did, there's a chance in two years we look back and we're like, oh, was this the first domino in kind of like maybe reshaping the administration in the WNBA?

I have no idea. And I have every right to believe. I don't think Nefisa would be saying that. But if it's true of what she said that Caitlin should be thanking her, go ahead and just go back for Cabo because you should not be sitting in that seat. Like that is insane. And what I know I said this earlier, but like when when,

when I say that they're not listening to us as players, they're not even engaging. Well, that's a fucking perfect example. Like I just, it's really not that hard. Like I know, I know that business can be tough, but doing the right thing by people and treating people with respect

and giving people their flowers and working together, it's really not that hard. It's, It's managing people. It's managing people. But like they're just so worried about them, them, them, like the I, I, I, that this is why she should not be in the seat that she's sitting in.

It almost feels like the W got like so popular that like the foundation of it almost like couldn't keep up with its own product. Do you know what I'm saying? Like Kaylin Angel. I'm a thousand person with you. almost like they weren't ready I guess. No, but you know what? That's okay. Like, and that's okay.

But it's fine to admit when you need help, right? And it's okay to understand when you're not cut out for something. Well, then bring people in who are. Like, my thing is you got to keep growing. You always need to keep growing. And with that, the league needs to keep growing. That doesn't mean that we have the same criteria and the same things we did from year one of the W.

Like, with this is it completely... No, and that requires admitting that requires admitting that you aren't where you need to be or you aren't capable of keeping up with something and getting help. But it's, again, it seems like everything is so reactive.

And like, I've built all of this. Like, I don't need any fucking help. These players did none of this. And you'll like never, ever, ever go any or is that fucking attitude. No, I'm right there with you. And I think it's funny too, because I think we have a lot of, we have the best athletes in the entire world, and we know what we deserve,

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Yes. Is she okay? How scary was that? Like she, did you see the statement she came out with? She, like, stopped walking. No, but she, like, fully, like, froze up. And then the ref, where I'm going to give credit to a ref. Isaac did an amazing job.

That ref was very nice. And then she like, I think the treasure came out. It was just, it was a very weird sequence. So what happened? She put out a statement and starts with an age. I forgot how, what it's called. But first of all, I do want to shout out Isaac because we give the rest a lot of shit. But at the end of the day, they're all good humans to the core.

And like, that was super sweet of him to help. help her. But she just got a full body cramp. But it's like, imagine having a Charlie horse, but times 100. Like it was bad. It was, she was a little sick, super dehydrated. But really, the doctor just said, you know, like, she played to her wheels came off. Like, her body was just to a point of exhaustion where she couldn't go anymore. And like, I believe it, man. Like, she put the team on her back all season long. And, you know, it just came down to that. But she, She was in a full body cramp. They rushed her to the hospital, got some IVs in her, did some blood work,

and she's going to be good. But she's super sore. She's moving. She's walking slowly. But it just sucked because that would have been number eight. It was number eight of our true roster to go out. And so it just sucks that we just got hit with the injury bug that bad. And then up in the day, that's how she goes out.

It's like, no one's surprised, but it just sucks that. Kels had to go through that. But our team rallied and fought for her. So that was kind of cool. But I guess they're used to doing that by now. I googled what it's called. Rabdo myel, my lossusis. Rabdo.

But it could be like, that condition could get really bad. But like hers was bad, but it could be like really, really bad. So we're thankful, but still sucks. Right. Yeah. I guess just a little look back. You guys are succeed, is that correct? Yeah.

Succeed, injury bug, crazy, big stars hurt. What's like you're, I don't know, one word to describe the season for you. Obviously. Yeah. For sure. I think at the end of it, I'm just grateful. Like, this season has been so fun and so amazing in more ways than I can. even count.

One, our locker room, like, number one is what I'm getting at is our locker room was so close knit and so fun and just full of love that, like, I've never been part of a locker room like that ever. And it was awesome. But then there's also a season from hell, too, because of the injury bug. But through it all, I'm grateful. I think the relationships and the memories that this team created is going to be one for a lifetime.

Like, people don't even go through the. amount of adversity and everything they have to us in a career, let alone one season. So it's just like, this team will always remember this for the good and the bad. And a locker room is never the same next year. I mean, you want to keep pieces, but it's never the same every single year. And if we can get this CBA worked out, like, who knows, like, no one's under contract. Like, who knows what's going to happen? Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. scary, no? Yeah. Yeah. This could be my last time in an Indiana fever jersey. Ah, scary.

I guess if you've had, you've had, what, 48 hours to kind of let it sink in? Do you have a little finals preview? Obviously, I know you're rooting for. I don't know if I'm rooting for any of them. Mercury. Have you seen that song going around? You know what? I don't even know if I'm going to watch. I'm over it. I need a break from the toxicity of the WMBA. It's been a drama-filled season for multiple reasons. Dude, that might be some of the real issue you ever said. I'm drained. I get it. I'm going to go. I started to go from me for my fines.

Do I have to fucking get any of the tip in a little bit? No, no, no, no. So I'm kidding. I put it out there because I was just totally kidding. but then people actually start donating. And I was like, oh, no, no, no, no. Like, I'm kidding. But so I'm just going to give it all away to charity. Even though I would love to buy a yacht. But I guess I'll just have to get another endorsement for that. You're for sure going to get fined for this episode.

For sure. I can already feel it. But, you know, that's fun. Unless you truly can't get fined in the offseason in that case. Salute. So one time for the Indiana Fever, 2025 season. All right. I want to,

enough about us, because, geez, I'm thin, drained. But tell us all about your celebrity basketball game.

And like, who was there? Well, my point card was Ais from Love Island. What's he living? He's probably five. Yeah, he's like probably like five seven or five eight maybe.

So are those girls on there even more little? because he looks like a Like he looked Yeah There were some There were some Itty Bitty girls That played

Um There are also some like Hoopers Dude there's so many like Random people Who are just like Freak athletes That you wouldn't just never know Um

But Okay yeah So I started the game First bucket of the game Is this dude named Jay Cinco He's like a rapper And a model

From L.A. great guy. A little breakaway and they had like two dudes kind of like hanging around the pain. He just gave me a little dish and I came up underneath. It looked like I was about to get my shit fucking jammed against the backboard and I just snuck it right in and made the shot.

I got a little hype. Probably because I was like one of cute white dudes out there. I'm not just like the only white guy and I loved it. So, yeah, they probably weren't ready for that. And then, yeah, it was like no need to shoot the ball anymore. There was also a double fucking rim for a pick for a... Yeah, but all outdoor courts are normally double rimmed because they have to be strong enough for the weather.

Oh, yuck. Yeah. Yeah. So that was, I was like, I probably shouldn't take any jumpers with this. No, the funniest thing, I try to go set a pig for Ace and he called me off. He called, he said an ISO. I was on my way over and he was like, he cleared me out.

Welcome to my world. Okay. Sophie, stay your ass in the corner. Get out of everyone's way. All right. Get the fuck in the corner. Yeah, it sounds good.

But it was fun and like, it was kind of close. We made a three to like win the game. So it was really fun. But I would have made you proud though, I think. Dude, next time you do something like that? Yeah, first bucket and thing just kept a chill. I want to come in like,

low-key commentate it, like, into a little V-log. That would be, you'd have so much fun at something like that. I wore K-D's. Love KD. I did get, I got drove on once, like, kind of, like, the top, like, the corner of the key, and I just didn't, I was low enough, didn't shuffle. I was tired. I forgot how tired.

Asswell made you. Wait, did anyone, did anyone force you left? No, I never brought the ball up. I didn't go up. Because I'm down, I'm getting boards. I'm Mr. Outlet, I'm Mr. Outlet, remember? Wait. Wait, did you have, what day is it?

Did you already do kickball? Sister, I'm headed there tonight. Which I should say, though, last week. Wait, the bitch is cleared. You gotta tell me. Yeah. Oh, I texted you. Okay.

So, one, we play games on Thursday nights, okay? So, like, there are people who come to the games from, like, a work happy hour. They've had a few beverages. Same with other teams, whatever. If we were playing a team that, like, I do not want to be this guy, but I'm gonna. You know, like, it's a team that, like, doesn't look athletic, but, like, you can tell. It's like they're, like, they're, like, ninth season together. And, like, they got...

They have the chemistry. They have the chemistry and the rhythm. They've got chemistry, and they just, like, I just feel like they're going to be good, even though they all look, like... Like, yeah, just, like, kind of, like... umpalumpas, you know? Um, and they were good.

And we, the score was like three won the whole game. Here's the biggest problem, Sophie. So you have to have girls kick every so often. You have to have so many girls in the field, whatever. My team is full of a lot of,

like, girls who want the t-shirt and to like hang out. It's not every girl is like, like, in the dugout, like, ready to kick. And so I'm always like, we need girls. But it would take us fucking forever if, like, we went through our order of girls, like, every so often. So I'm kind of just like, let's just keep it rolling, you know? But this theme, like, we get to, like, the fourth, fifth inning. And they're like, this girl hasn't kicked, this craws and kick.

They're kicking and get, like, freaking the fuck out, which is true. Hey, it's us, the Jonas brothers. And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, huge news? We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it.

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Yes, and like we were technically, technically speaking, not following the rules. But I was like, come on, like, let's go. I'm like a fucking cheater. I just like want this shit to like keep a moving, you know? But for a good time. Yeah, and I want everyone to like be able to like play and like get through all the endings. Like whatever. So they're like losing it and then start.

kind of chirping. Other team starts chirping. And then every time like between innings, everyone's kind of like talking shit when we're like crossing to go to the dugouts. I never talk shit because I'm like, it's co-ed. I'm not going to like like talk shit with girls and like fat guy. Like it just is like not what I'm here to do. But so then they're like yelling at the ump, the poor ump by himself just calling co-ed kickballs like a side job. and they are like motherfucking this guy like you don't pay

oh fuck attention like what the fuck like then there was a question on the score we ended up tying were you down the whole game right I kind of felt

yeah we came back and like I felt kind of weird about it because they were like calling us out for something that we like we were doing

but yeah but then I'm like guys I talk to everyone after the game like we can't fight and argue and shit talk and be annoying

if we aren't gonna like all kick you know. Yeah, I literally felt like it was the first time in my life. I felt like I was a coach and I had like a speech naturally like bubbling out of my fucking throat. I don't know. We did it. We fully did it. And I go, guys, we like can't, we can't act like that

if we're going to like do the whole thing where like, we're like letting girls not kick. So then we break it down and I look in the corner, they're still yelling at this ref. And the ref is is yelling back at them, like screaming. Like, it was like other teams were like filming. But the game was over. The game has been over.

And I was like, game's fully over. And he's like, he's like, you're getting like this upset about a fucking kickbooking. And they're yelling at him. And I was like, dude, not good, not great. Because then you have to go play them in flip cup at the bar. If that would happen, I feel like, like, y'all just go. Like, that's weird. That's just weird.

Like, give them the flip cup game. Go to your own bar and half a ball. with your team. Like, that's weird to me. Like, it's not that serious. No, I agree. But so then we go to the bar and it was like everyone's kind of like walk on eggshells. And then they were actually like very cool when we got to the bar. It's best of seven. They went up three oh and then we rattled off four in a row and beat them again. So it ended up. Yeah. Yeah. Buried them. We basically stole like three points the whole night. But kind of crazy. And then they, the league, Volo called me in the morning. you're like, what the fuck happened?

So I'd like tell my team, I was like, dude, the league called me. Wait, can you tell me? Like, we don't like Kathy. Who's your guys' league commissioner? Ooh, great question. I don't know if I'll ever meet, like, the super higher up. Because the league has, like, there's leagues all over the East Coast. There's, like, Miami, Volo, Boston, Volo, Baltimore.

Like, you can play team sports in all these cities, like, throughout your 20s and 30s. Maybe 40s. It's great. But I did. Yeah, 40s. But basically I had to like take a call. And they were like, dude, we heard about the incident. Like we heard Benches cleared, like run us through it.

And I was like, I was honest. I told them, I was like, yeah, sometimes our girls skip their turn kicking. But I'm trying to keep an efficient product on the field, sir. Do you have fans to come back? Yeah. Do you want the bleachers filled or not? Leave them over there, give them people drinks and let me kick the fuck out of the ball. Yes.

I get it. Literally, I was like, I was like, these girls are hot and want a t-shirt. And I cannot force them every time to kick. Next year, can we have a white t-shirt and can you make sure it rains every Thursday?

You really want fans. Yeah. I actually don't think there, I don't think there is a white t-shirt team because they probably know. Well, no, I was wondering, you know. Is there a team out there? Dude, that's actually insane, though.

And the fact that people take it that scene. serious. Yeah. I mean, I do. Like, I want to win and I'm upset when we lose, but I'm not going to, like, fight. Like, you know. Yeah, I think I, I said that comment to probably the most serious player on the, on the roster of any league. No, I think if you're fighting at kickball, to me, it's very much like, I can tell who it didn't play sports. Yeah. You know, because you're like, you're like, you're like, you know what that reminds me of. It's cringy. It reminds me of, like, the average Joe's versus global. gym and like they were the no you guys are the average Joe's

like just trying to have a good time and and the other ones were just taking it so serious even though that team maybe looked like average Joe's because you said that they were kind of but it's you know it's kickball can't judge book bites cover stuff I pop out all the fucking time I wish I didn't go for the knees

go for the knees I try dude I try my hardest also real quick I'll make it 30 seconds did you watch the Chiefs game Sunday or did you play Sunday. I think we played Sunday. We played Sunday. They fucking beat

the ravens. They beat the yeah. The quarterback. Yeah, didn't he like tear his hamstring? No, it's like three weeks. But he came out after we were after we were already up like 30. Can we talk about something real quick? So back on track.

What happened like two weekends ago when Travis and our best guy was getting into it on the on the sideline? Andy Reed. I know. They've done that a few times. And like if you watch interviews with him, I feel like they're like father's son.

And they, like at this point it doesn't really freak me out. But that one, there was a time like a Super Bowl ago. When Travis like really gave him a bump and Andy joked every he's like, yeah, like kind of caught me off balance. That one like I was like,

whoa, Travis, bad look. This one, Reed was like, ran up on Travis. I know. I'm just like motherfucking him. But I like to see that. I mean, they're like, yeah, they do care and they have that relationship

and that respect that they're able to do that. But like nowadays, coaches, I feel like aren't allowed to do that on any level because people are just fucking weak. They're not mentally tough. Yeah. The art of hard coaching is like a little more taboo. Well, it has to be.

Than it used to be. Are we doing, um, are we doing a tell me something for this ep? Let's do it. Let's do it. All right, guys. Let's start. up here.

Hey, Sophie, hey, West. Caitlin here. Congratulations to the podcast. I absolutely love y'all. I think you play off each other really well. You're both hilarious. A quick question for you. So you both travel a lot.

You live in different places. In your experience, where do you think has had the worst dating pool? I'm in San Diego, and it's a... It's a dog-eat-dog world out here. It's rough.

So I'm curious where you think you've had the craziest experience that you pull and why. Side note, this is also both of your formal invitations to my best friend's wedding. It's in Texas, November 22nd. Come on out. Don't worry, it's been approved by her, so she's allowed this invitation. We'll have open bar, dance floor. There'll be chickens for Sophie to chase. If you're into that, the day before the wedding, wedding rehearsal.

I think that's what it's called but it'll be a Mexican restaurant with karaoke so take that for what it's worth it'll be a lot of fun lots of booze you're both invited so bring your boots come on out yeah

damn Kailin on the dating pool I got a little hot take if you're in a city and you think the dating pool is bad it might be time to look in the mirror perhaps because if you're like

Wes The pool is going to be... This is not about Caitlin, by the way. This is just like, people always want to be like, oh, like New York sucks today or like, L.A. sucks. I'm moving out of Kansas City because, like, it's hard today. It's about, like, it's just about trial and air. Like, if you're in a smaller place, there are less options.

So it's going to be tougher, but, like, I don't think geographic, like, locations change. how you date people. Like, the point of being a good dater is that you can kind of ebb and flow and chameleon where you are. You know? That's kind of my take.

I think that if you're moving somewhere, it's kind of on you. Find who matches your swag. Yes, I agree. Are you going to the wedding quest? And then, yeah, we'll both go to the wedding. What did she say? November 22nd.

The weekend before Thanksgiving. Will we chase chicken singing karaoke? a Mexican bar and drinking beer. That does actually kind of sound nice. I think I'm honestly like not a big dater. Like I'm not one just to like go on dates with random people. But it doesn't have to be like first dates. It could be like dudes that you've like been dating or seen.

Well, what is dating? How do they turn out? Like I feel like dating is like your exclusive. Do doing I think now dating means like just like being outside kind of

talking, Chad and doing S-EX Explore like going on dates because some people go on dates and they can be inside I see I feel like dating is when your I feel like

like my experience with dating is like I'm talking to you and we're hanging out and it's like like I'm not I have I'm not good at doing that with multiple people like I just can't do I'm just not good at that I've never been good at that what oh yeah this is this is what makes us so good because I feel like we're two different like two different people when it comes to that because I just can't I don't know that it doesn't mean that I haven't like had like my fun and like flirted and whatever but like I'm just when it comes to when I'm just when I'm just when I'm you're dating, that means like I'm like, exclusive with someone. Hmm. I'm just trying to think if I've ever met, like,

to me, the question makes me think, like, have you ever been in a location and just, like, hated everyone of the opposite sex? Well, I've never felt that way. Like, I think being out in Scottsdale, if I wasn't, like, around, yeah, like, if I wasn't around, like, the, like, the NBA guys

or other athletes out there. Like, there's no way I would ever date anyone from out there because I'm more masculine than them. Like, they have more Botox and fillers and, like, look so pretty. Dude, like, just Scottsdale people. Like, Arizona people, they're not. Yeah. Arizona is like that.

You're right. Leathery. It's like leathery people. I need like a man. Like, I need a man. Yeah. So I think I think geographically

Say what? I said I got it I think geographically That makes sense though Like there's just some states Or like some areas that the men are going to be a little more of feminine And like

I can tell you where it's good Kaelin New York You do have a lot of options there A lot of options a lot of everything. It's like literally a jungle. Like I go out on my blog right now and there's going to be

90 hot chicks at like eating dinner outside. And they all have different types of jobs and they're all from different states or countries and it's just beautiful. And then you say, what are you doing later? And they're like, I'm not driving home. Boom.

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