The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Show Me Something - Sophie Cunningham & West Wilson on dating rules, emotional cheating & Fever offseason plans

Episode Date: October 18, 2025

It’s a “Tell Me Something Thursday” and we’re diving straight into your voicemails. Indiana Fever star Sophie Cunningham and Bravo’s West Wilson tackle everything from WNBA offseason plans and emotional cheating to behind the scenes locker room talk, martial arts training (sort of), and what invention they’d erase from history. Plus, Sophie gets real about evolving her game, future coaching, dating rules, and more fan chaos you don’t want to miss!All lines provided by ‪Hard Rock Bet 00:00 - Start00:13 - Offseason plans 3:00 - Emotional Cheating woes 5:40 - Motivational Catch phrases 8:30 - WNBA Coaching in her future? 9:40 - Dating age & poetry writing 13:00 - Sophie loves to journal  14:00 - Do you guys collect things?16:46 - Do WNBA players jersey swap? 17:30 - Martial Arts training 20:00 - Removing one invention from history 23:00 - Cellphone vs dishwasher 24:00 - How to up your game? 28:30 - Exploring their youth sports career  #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I did Taekwondo and karate when I was little, but I, yeah. Oh, I don't remember this move. Tiger! And then you do this. Fair. No. What? Where did you go? It was in North, it was like in Northern Columbia.

You know where Sam's is, like off the highway? Dude, it was like this little studio there. Tiger. What? Eagle. Like stuff like that. How old were you? Young.

I don't think I got past being like a tangerine belt or something like that. Episode 13, this is a, we're double dipping. Double dipping, halfway through October. So we're just gonna do a mail bag. These questions are gnarly and it's just fun for us. Let's go. Hi, this is Melanie from Nashville, Tennessee. And I have a question, Sophie.

What is a typical? off-season look like. And then lastly, you know, Andy Cohen is a Bravo connection with you guys, and he's from St. Louis. I thought that was neat. Anyway, Sophie, I hope you have a speedy recovery. Thanks, guys. Enjoy your podcast. Bye-bye. What a sweet lady. I didn't know that Andy was from St. Louis. Yeah, I went to a blues game with him in November. Oh, nice. He's the first time I met Andy, he came into my green room and gave me a big hug and said, hello Missouri and gave me a big squeeze. Typical.

His whole, if you ever watch, watch it happens live. Sophie, it's like the after show, like his studio. Yeah. Everything is like the arch or like Cardinals, everything. So he's like very, oh shoot, like loyal to San Luis. I like that. So I spend my off season, I guess right now rehabbing. So the injury is going good. I'm getting stronger, silly but surely. I'm a weak piece of shit right now.

Let me tell you, get my ass kicked. But it's fine. But typically in an all season for me, I would do maybe some broadcasting for a team. But this year I'm just going to train. So I'm just going to be lifting. That includes just like becoming stronger, cardio, and then just like training on the basketball court. So this is a good year for me to dial in and focus.

And hopefully I can work on my tan a little bit. too, you know, in my free time. So that's what my off season looks like. You do a good job of not like only being a basketball player. Like you do so many other things. Yeah. Well, thanks. And you deserve that.

Well, thank you because I think, um, I think I need that balance though. Like there's some people who can just like be in the gym 24 hours a day, 365 days a week. And like that is just like not me at all. Like I want to work out for like three or four hours and then I want to get the heck away from it. Like I need the balance of both. Who do I need it? Yeah. But I mean even professionally, like when you when you were doing your like broadcasting stuff for the Suns and stuff, that's cool.

A lot of people are fine hooping and like, like, you've you've opened so many doors for yourself. I think that's the smartest thing, you know. Thanks, West. And so, good shit. But it also allows me to like do cool things like this or like go do events or go even go back home and stuff. Actually doing stuff with the Suns last year, I was actually here a lot more because I was like, I didn't actually get to do as much as I wanted to do in the offseason. And so this time I'm just rehabbing and training and I think it's going to be kind of fun, to be honest. We'll see.

Hell yeah. That's a sweet question. It's pretty kind. That was. All right, guys, next one coming up for you here. Hey, guys. Zach from the next state, New York. I had a quick relationship question.

How would you handle emotional cheating? I'm going through it right now. I'm just curious how you guys, if you guys have ever dealt with it. So I'm very nice. Anyway, love the pod, keep it up. You both are amazing. Have a good night. Yeah, you go first.

I am not a fan of any type of cheating. So I just think that like if you are in a relationship with someone, then you should be open enough to have communication, even if like things change, it's like you, it's a respect type of thing. It's communication. And so you're always evolving. you're always growing, so is the person you're dating. So like things are gonna change,

but I think the biggest thing is you need to communicate. And I feel like a lot of people stop communicating and stop dating each other. And so once you kind of stop doing that, people need that type of stuff. So maybe there is emotional cheating, but I am not a fan of that. I think if I were to catch that,

I would say something to my person. And if it like continued, then I'd be done. Okay, I think you and I agree. I was gonna say unlike physical cheating where I think you're allowed to walk away in that explanation, I think emotional cheating is a little grayer and like it, it deserves a conversation because technically it's so gray

and like a lot, like for me, I'm a very flirty person. I'm also a very like touchy person and there's a lot of things that like I subconsciously do that are just like kind of part of my personality, but also because I've been seen a long time that are just like built into how I interact with people that I'm sure if I was dating someone they like wouldn't appreciate. Therefore, I, I, conversations are super important. But I don't think, I think emotional cheating,

I don't like the word cheating is it sounds like so, like it sounds like such a backstab when I don't think people always necessarily do that on purpose. But yeah, if someone is like, you know, like doing it to you after the conversations and after you've asked for things to stop, then like,

yeah, then you can walk away from that. Yeah. Good question. I agree. Good question. All right, guys, thanks for the advice there. Moving on to number three.

Sugar, I forgot I was going to say. Oh, yeah, okay. So this is Dana from California. Anyways, I have a question for you. So if you're ever in a situation, I feel like you just got, like, knocked off your horse, so to speak, like, you just kind of, like, got a really huge setback. Is there anything that you can, like,

that you depend on or some kind of catchphrase? All right. Thank you for your podcast. You're both very delightful. Bye. All right. Any positive, self-sufficient, self-supporting mantras you guys got? That's a really good question.

A specific saying I don't have, but I've always told myself, like this sounds maybe like kind of shallow, but like, am I going to die? No. And do I have family and friends around me who always love me? And that answers yes. And I think as long as you know you have that base level, I do think you can get through everything. And kind of back to our last episode,

we had a question about moving away from home. I think if you've been through, subjected yourself to a lot of hardships, and you've made it through those, for me personally, I use the times that I have been in shitty situations, whether that was laid off, ran out of money, I like hate, you know, like shitty on a depth chart,

like all those things. Everything has worked itself out. And now that I've done it, so many times, I know to just be patient and trust myself to get through it. So Dana, you will get through this and you're going to be okay. And then that will make this next time some shit happens to you that much easier and you'll be that much more confident in yourself. So keep grinding, Mamascita.

Dude, that's, that was actually really great. Because my biggest thing is I think people forget in life, especially with social media nowadays, everyone thinks that everyone's life is so easy and rainbow and butterflies. And it's just, you know, it's so perfect on the other side. But it's really not. everyone goes through struggles, everyone goes through trials. And like my biggest thing is that's where you learn a lot about yourself. That's like where you grow, right?

And so I think that if you don't have those things, even like with an injury, like, I don't really know what she's going through. But like if it's physical health, if it's mental health, if it's all that type of stuff, like sometimes that's when maybe you're more grateful. Your perspective shifts and changes. And on the other side of it, you're a lot more happy and you're a lot more grateful that you went through it because you learned so much more about yourself or around about the people around you.

Like there's so many benefits and beauty when there's trials, I think. It's hard. Don't keep you wrong, but you're always going to come out on the other side of it. Yeah. Yeah. So Dana, right now it sucks, but you're going to be so, you're going to be a fucking beast afterwards. And you just got to know that.

And you got to know that it's like, I love to say that you callous as a human. Every time some shit's like really tough, it breaks you down and then you're like a callous, you grow tougher and stronger and you'll just callous your way through life. That's a very good question. It is. Stay positive, though. Yeah. Very inspirational, very motivational, guys.

I like the metaphor of being a callous. It makes me look at calluses in a different way now. In the more positive way. Dude, chalces are beautiful. They're good for you. Not the ones on my feet. No, we don't want those. That's all I thought of.

Be the ballast of life. All right, next one for you guys here. Number four, here we go. Say Sophie West. It's a question for Sophie. Are you thinking that you, um, Get out of the league. I mean, what you see yourself doing?

Are you the type that's going to be coaching? Just for kind of wondering, thanks. My name is Gerald, by the way. Gerald. Yeah. Well, hello, Gerald. You know, I don't really know what I want to do when I'm done playing. I feel like I want to play as long as I can, maybe another eight to ten years.

Who knows? I would love to coach, but I also think that I want to get married and I want to have a family. And the life of coaching is. not so ideal for all that. So there's that. I would love to do broadcast. I would love to be in the entertainment space. So who knows? Like I would also love to be on a yacht, not doing anything. So we have a lot of options. I don't know yet. So just kind of being where my two feet are right now. All right. So thanks for sharing. Next question here. Number five, the dating question. So we need both of you guys for this one. Two questions. One, what

your baseline for dating age-wise, youngest and oldest for both of you. And a second question, do either of you write poetry? And if you do, what's that about or what's that like for you? Thanks. Bye. I don't write poetry per se, but I loved rhyming a lot of my childhood and would like write like a... West is actually a rapper.

lyrics yeah um so not poetry per se but if you give me two beers i'll free style for you if that's what we're looking for um the age thing do old west raps exist are they out there west yeah i have a i have a song called oh it was a geometry song that we made in ninth grade could be pretty good and it was and we got like a and we got like a b plus which which was so whack um okay age wise I think it's so weird when the age gap is huge that I would always, like I will always keep it pretty tight and I would advise other people to just like, also keep it tight.

My brother is five years younger than me and I've always thought that he was like, I looked out for him and he'll always be a pup. So I think I've just kind of, as I moved through life, I've always thought no one younger than my brother would I ever date, which is five years. So for me right now, that would be 20, 26 and I'm 30, 25.

That's not that bad. I feel like the older you get, it's not that bad. I agree, but like now I just think it people, it just is like so, people are so weird. I wouldn't even tempt it even if you think it's normal. Okay. So say you're in New York. And then older, there's no. Oh, no.

Ew, ew. No. See, she's probably experienced. So you're saying that if you were in New York and there is this really pretty girl, cool vibe, great job. well for herself and you turn out she's she turns out to be like 26 you'd say no but she's like you're tight everything 26 four years younger i don't think's crazy but like yeah i would i don't think i'd i would especially date i don't think i'd go yeah because i feel like the maturity level

is still just different i just i just know when i meet a couple and the dude is like 30 and the and the girlfriend is 25 i'm like you're a fucking weird like i i i i always think those dudes are whack. You know what I'm saying? Like that couple where the guys like like drives a truck and she's like way younger. You're just like, I don't, I, you guys are, you guys are weirding me out. He just weird me out. But not you and your 85 year old wife?

All right. That's fine. You have the handicapped sticker. Yeah. That's why you do it. Facts. I do not write poetry or anything. like that, but I do journal. I do like to journal because I feel like so many fun things happen

and I forget like little moments that are either like good, bad, funny, dumb. And so like I like to write all that stuff down, especially during season. Or if like something cool happened or I get to go do something fun. I don't know. It's kind of fun to look back on. But I'm right there with you. I think only older. I've only dated older. That's more typical though for girl. Like I feel I think the age gap is usually older guy, younger girl. I'd love to date, like a divorcee for a second. Anyways, next question. Question number six here, here we go.

Hi, this message is actually for Sophie, but West, I would love your opinion as well. My name's Josh, and my question is about collecting. Do you have any personal collections of any, you know, players, cards, or jerseys? Please let me know. And thanks, and keep putting out great shows. We really appreciated it. All right. Thanks again. Bye.

All right, Josh. Well, West left. So, oh, here he is. I'm not a big collector of things. So I don't like having a lot of stuff. And so I haven't been a big collector of things. I think my biggest collection would be my swimsuits. That's good.

Yeah. I love collecting jerseys when I was in like junior high. That was like such a cool thing. However, Josh, DME, DM me and may I interest you in a Big Westie card? This is a Big Westie collector's edition from the McDonald's All-American game in Houston, Texas. It says Big Westy, height six foot, weight, 2010, two, 10, high school Rockbridge High School College of Montana State.

And then my bio says, no left hand, but scrappy, wants to have fun. It's Topps. It's literally a Topps card. So if anyone needs a big Westie card, Josh, I'll send you one. That's actually who made those? Topps. Oh, oh, so some, Topps just made one for you? Well, I was there covering the McDonald's All American game and they were like, we make the tops cards for the players and I was just there. And I was like, I was like, guys, say less. Wait, so did you put your own description on the back? Yeah, they're like, what do you want to say?

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This is Help from a Hypocrite, the worst advice from the dumbest people you know. Listen to Help from Hypocrite as part of the Mike Coutura Podcast Network available on the IHart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Actually, can I add one more thing for Josh? I love collecting shirts and hats or like sweatshirts from like dive bars or like diners or cafes in places I've visited.

I think those are so classic and like just, just a great representation of whatever like little fucking town you were visiting or like once from home or once from where you went to school. I think anything that's like the diner, Columbia Missouri, like that shit's so sick and it's timeless and it and it'll always be like a conversation starter. So that's like that's one of mine. Favorite one. Oh, also like Shakespeare's pizza cups. So yeah. Like I have like four, I have like 14 of those might. Dude, I have like five of them in here too. Oh yeah. I'll always have that. So if I feel like a lot of

lot of NBA players do like the jersey swap do w girlies do that like you ever dude we don't get to do jersey swaps because we legit get like two or three jerseys and we wear that same one every game so like they kind of get like multiple like if they were want to do that they would have another one that they could have we don't get that option because we literally get like three jerseys and if you yeah but yeah if you mess it up you are screwed so no all right good to know Good to know. Okay, here it goes. Question number seven. Hello there. So my question is, do you still train martial arts and is so how often a week or a month does your schedule allow you to train? Thank you so much. Well, could you train martial arts? No. I was a, I did taekwondo and karate when I was little, but I, yeah.

Me too. Oh, I don't remember this move. Tiger, and then you do this. Bear. What? Where did you go? It was in North, it was like in Northern Columbia. You know where Sam's is? Like off the highway? Dude, it was like this little studio there. Tiger. What? Eagle, like stuff like that. How old were you? Young. I don't think I got past being like a a tangerine belt or something like that. But no, we were at we did taekwondo with uh, Mr. Hawkman, uh, ATA and um, I, I don't know that name.

Mr. Hawkman you he's awesome like he they produce like badasses. Like they go do like tournaments and stuff around the world like with taekwondo and stuff like that. Um, but I stopped at age six. I got my black bill and I was done. So it was fun. I wrestled. My dad was big and my dad had me wrestle for a long time. Did you do that in junior high?

I quit wrestling probably fifth or sixth grade, but it's good to learn to like, you and I have played team sports our whole lives. Playing a sport where you're by yourself on a mat, kind of you got to learn to grow some fucking balls and go get after it. So wrestling's a good sport if you want to get your kids like aggressive. Wait, have you ever tried Cromagaw? No, what? Dude, you need to go do that.

So it's like a self-defense class, but it is hard but super cool. So I did that in college. Like our team did that during the summer. Is in between your finger? Yeah. Yeah, so in someone says eagle or bear. Balls, balls. Brainstim, brainstem, brainstem.

Brainstem. Eye gouge. Eye gouge. The answer is no. We haven't done that in so long. Yeah. Sorry. No martial arts.

That's good. Bear spray. Yeah. It's all your your sound effects with everything. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, God. Not West getting carried away. Literally. Yeah, sorry. I'm getting sweaty again. This actually ended up being a great, uh, informative last area. We've learned some pretty good moves here. Thanks guys. All right. Question number eight. All right, here's my wild question.

If you had to remove one invention from all of history, which would it be and why? Thanks guys, love the content. Have a good one. Wow, that is a great question. I don't even know. For the sake of like entertainment, if cell phones were not invented, our entire personalities, interactions, relationships, existence, society would be so different.

And like, it was, I think that we had a golden age of cell phones being beneficial. And I would imagine at this point, they're not good for us. And I think everything pendulum, so like we'll go back in 10 years. So like people will like detach from their phones a little once we're at once all of our brains melt. But like, for the sake of this question, I think. I think like if that invention never happened, seeing what society would look like today would be incredibly interesting. Don't you think? A thousand percent.

And I, I just think that like you would have to be more friendly and more outgoing. And like people would get along more. People would have good conversations. People would be more inviting and more welcoming. So I'm so there with you. Yeah. Yeah. But I mean people like society thrived without phones.

Like it would be fine. And I do like how, I think it's writing letters and like cards with letters handwritten stuff is like so, like, those are cherishable to me because like, no, you don't get that anymore. Everyone just text and calls. And so I think I do like the phone for like, if you need something, call, but everything else, I think it's kind of ruined. Just saying. Mm-hmm. Do you have one? I think I do.

And this one's like kind of superficial, but I kind of wish like, Botox, injections, implants, all that, that wasn't a thing. Because. Because why? I just think that it would allow people to like authentically be themselves and love themselves. And like there wouldn't be a standard to look a certain way because those standard people are all full of plastic. So like why are why is our society and culture? you're chasing something that's not even real.

Yeah, sort of to what I was saying earlier, my guess is again, 10, 15 years from now, the we pendulum back and then that look is like not in. I'm gonna add one more. Oh, yeah, go for it. Oh, because I live in New York City, I didn't have a dishwasher for the last seven years. And then I just moved in an apartment with a dishwasher.

And I'm kind of like, there's no need for this at all. Like hand washing your dishes is actually more efficient. and then you hand wash them and then you put them away. The dishwasher, you just like put shit in there and kind of wait until you fill up your dishwasher and then clean them. I don't think dishwashers are, do. I don't think we need them as people. Pause. Pause.

What if once you get married and have a family and say you have four or five kids? And there's a lot of plates and a lot of bowls. Good call. Great call. Great call out. Okay. I do. do get what you're saying though like if you're just like by yourself like just do it yourself

but i'm thinking like big families or all that type of stuff i'm like it could come in handy or it does come in handy good call yeah boy i will know i'll let take off yeah facts as someone with a family in a household of four actually when i heard cell phone versus dishwasher it made dishwashers sound pretty good this not just uh for future yeah for future reference All right guys, here is question nine. Hi, my name is Maddie and I'm a basketball player from New Jersey. And I want to ask how can I evolve my game? Got the question off.

Got the question off, Maddie. I was going to say, Sobe Evolved in high school because her student section was so loud and involved that it made playing defense easier. And we hyped her up so much that it helped grow her game just from the peer, any energy standpoint at Rockridge High School. Energy, confidence, everything. Yeah. It depends on like what age you are.

It like totally changes how you want to like become better your sport athletically. I think football is weird because people, So, but a lot of emphasis on weight training and like getting stronger. Oh, wait. Also, Maddie, you're, I mean, you're probably not playing football if I had to guess. So you probably don't care what I'm saying. I believe in playing more than one sport if you're still young. Like, I think don't, don't just stick to basketball.

If that's what you're playing, I think soccer is going to help you with footwork. I think softball will help you with hand-dic coordination. And once you get to high school and you know what you're good at, I think lock in and commit to that one sport. But a lot of kids like stop or like isolate what sports. They play like from a really young age now. And I don't think that's good for growing athletically because you're still growing and learning like about your body.

And I think you'll like be able to hone in like so many different skills from kind of testing yourself with different like athletic activities. So that would be my advice. And Maddie for your dad, but your dad that don't let them lock you in. into something. No, literally. I think that's the biggest thing is like it's almost the parents and really the coacher, the coaching who is like forcing these kids to pick one sport when they're in third grade. And it's like, no, like play as many sports as long as you can because just for you said, it helps in so many different ways. But I think for me specifically with basketball, I think that so many kids think you have to do something special. But really, it's doing the most simple, basic things. And so that's like, even in the WMBA, we still do layup lines. We still work on figure eight ball handling. We still work on defensive slides.

We do the most basic things, even at the highest level. And so it's just like learning how to do those and not getting bored with them. I think always being the hardest worker on any team that you are on is always a really, really good thing. Being a great teammate is huge. But at the end of the day, I think if you are the hardest worker that remember to have fun, like smile, laugh, enjoy what you are doing because you're getting your butt kick to practice. So when it's game time, like go out there and enjoy it with your teammates.

Like that's the fun part. But be the hardest worker and do the basic simple things really, really well. My special teams coaching college always said there's only two things you can control, your attitude and your effort. And I think about that quote every single day that I'm alive. The only things I can control are my attitude. I'm going to have a good time. I'm going to have fun.

I'm going to be positive. and my effort and I'm going to give it my all and try my hardest. And then everything else will fall into place. Love. Yeah, wait. Also the other thing I want to say, if you, like, if you do one sport from an early age, you can burn out on that sport like so fast. And this is also for like if parents are listening, like, if you're a basketball family, but like you get to play soccer or run track or like do whatever while you're growing up,

then you like have time to do other things that makes you love, love basketball more. If you're doing basketball drills for 12 months of the year and like, you're going to burn out so, so, so hard. Like just like, wait a little. Travel baseball, those families, those families are like never home. And it's for like seventh graders. How many sports did you play growing up? I mean, I graduated high school and still played football and ran track and

then played like Columbia basketball, like rack basketball. So I was never like only playing football, but I ran track in high school too. Yeah. My dad's big thing was playing soccer because organized football is not worth like, it's pretty crazy to have like first graders trying to like run offense. You know what I mean? Oh yeah. So my dad had us play soccer so that we could learn how to use our feet and have good

footwork. And then when when football gets like somewhat more organized than then we switched over to football. Yeah, smart. That's what I was going to say. We did swimming, gymnastics, softball, golf, basketball, volleyball, track. Like, we did all of it because it all helps. So if anyone's listening, like, let your kids play as many as they can. So as long as they can.

All right, cool, cool. All right, last one here for you guys. Last one, best one. Hey, Sophie. My name is Josh and I have just graduated the University of Iowa. Walks. I've got a little question for you. How often the stuff like that go on in the WMBA where like something happens on the court that's obviously disrespectful and you guys kind of pick up your fists and take care of it in the locker room after the day?

Is that something that happens quite a lot? No. Honestly, that that never happens. Literally never happens. And like it barely even happens on the court. I think probably what I did this year is the most that's been done in years. But yeah, that's just not how we roll on our side. But I will say there are a lot of like,

actually, you know what? This team was so good this year with Indiana that like, we would just talk it out. Like everyone was very understanding. Everyone just wanted to do their best to grow. And sometimes part of being elite level athlete is you can't always listen to the tone of people because everyone's competing at such a high level that you just have to listen to the message.

And so that's on you to mature, to grow, to know that like everyone's in it for the same reason. you're trying to win. But no, there's never fights in, I say that. There's a massive fight next year, but there's never fights in the locker rooms. My little brother went to Iowa, so shout out. Brother, go hawks. And again, I don't play in the W&BA,

but I've played sports for a long time. Most athletes are very confident people, very smart people, and used to playing a sport at like a very high energy level and then going to class or going home to their family. Athletes who have played sports for a long time are very capable of compartmentalizing like such high energy

when they're playing their sport. And like I have seen so many football fights where dudes are punching each other in the head and literally 10 seconds later on the same football field dab each other up and hug it and then we like everything's good.

Funny story, my head football coach, my junior senior year, if two players got in a fight, they'd have to hold hands and walk around the football field once. It was the best post-fight punishment you could ever have. And it's kind of funny because everyone would do it and you'd just laugh about it. Yeah. Good question.

No. That is a good question. The locker room is like kind of a sacred place. And fighting in the locker room is like not a good thing to do. No. If that's happening, someone's probably getting kicked off. Like that just doesn't happen. Well, we are 10 for 10.

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