The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Small ball, Andre Iguodala, Jerry Jones, and the 76ers

Episode Date: February 7, 2020

Filling in for Colin, Doug Gottlieb discusses why the Rockets small ball against the Lakers worked, why Andre Iguodala is tricking the Heat, why Jerry Jones is the dad that can't say no, and his thoughts on the 76ers chemistry issues. Guests include Chris Broussard, Ric Bucher, and T. J. Houshmandzadeh. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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And however you may be listening to the show, thanks so much for making this part of your day. I'm Doug Gottlie, filling in for Colin Cowherd on Fox Sports One, Fox Sports Radio, and the IHeart Radio app. Quick plug. I have a podcast called All Ball on the Heard Podcast Network. There's a two-parter that we just dropped part two today with Raja Abel, former nemesis of Kobe Bryant. If I'm not going to tout my own stuff, nobody will.

But this is really, really, really good. Really good. Also, the Doug Gottlieb show, my show, I have, 3 to 6 Eastern, 123 Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Our show. It's a different podcast. Tony Allen joined me yesterday. And he reacted to the death of Kobe Bryant.

And it was, I thought, spectacular stuff in that he felt like there's a conversation that he never had with Kobe that he wanted to have. Again, you can download that wherever you download podcast. Welcome in. We have a spectacular show for you today. Chris Broussard will join us. So too, Rick Buecker. We'll talk a little NFL football and probably some Lakers with native Los Angeles. T.J. Houshmunzano will join us. We got a lot to get to, including with Hush, should Joe Burrow, should Joe Burrow show up and play for the Bengals? should he force his way out of Cincinnati before he's ever in Cincinnati? In other words, pull the L.A., pull the Eli Manning. Get to that during the show.

But there's an old saying, maybe it's a cliche, and look, we're told in this business, don't be cliche, right? Don't be cliche, don't be cliche. But when the going gets tough, the tough do, in fact, get going, don't they? Defense does, in fact, win championships. Now, we could sit here and go, well, Doug, this. Niners' defense is the best defense in the league. They didn't win a championship. Yeah, but the chiefs don't come back and win that game.

If Chris Jones doesn't bat down a couple balls, if they don't get four consecutive stops when down 10 in the Super Bowl. Defense does win championships, right? We rave about the Golden State Warriors and they're shooting. But during their championship runs, analytics would tell you they were, with the exception of one year, the best defensive teams in basketball. So cliches can be true. Matter of fact, they are generally true.

They're just overused expressions. Here's one. Necessity is the root of all invention. I screwed it up again. Did I screw it up again? Take two. Necessity is the mother of all invention. Same thing, really, right?

Finally nailed it, Gottlie. That's what happened last night with the Houston Rockets. Now, long term, we will discuss. but short term, they did the thing which I love. You know, we talk about whether your apps or desserts. I'm like, why do the appetizer? Just bring me two entrees. I'd rather have an additional entree than have a dessert.

And matter of fact, that's one of the reasons I like apps over desserts is. It's usually a mini-ontree. Why not just play your five best players at once? What happens if you're a tallest, players six foot six like Daniel house okay so the Houston Rockets tradeaway Clint Capella and many predict gloom and doom and it is something that you kind of scratch your head at because well everybody has a rim protector in the NBA right everyone who runs pick and roll and it's called spread game has a roller has a rim protector has somebody who defends the rim and rolls to the rim and finishes and that's

with Clem Capella, though overpaid, was doing. I am a broadcaster, a former college basketball player, former professional player, and I've also been a coach, coached teams overseas. I've coached in the TBT, the basketball tournament. I've also coached youth teams. And when you get to a higher level of competition, collegiate or pros, what happened last night is what I have implored to college basketball coaches throughout the country, which is, hey, small ball works.

It works. Now, the reason it works is not always just because you make a bunch of shots. Oftentimes, it's because of the other team's reaction to your lineup. And this actually starts at a very, very young age. At a very young age. When you first start playing basketball, the biggest kid on the floor in rec basketball usually parks himself in the lane or just off the lane, puts his hand up, and every coach, every parent says throw him the ball.

And he's closer to the hoop, so he tries to throw it off the backboard and throw it in. And if he doesn't make it, he gets the rebound because he's bigger than everybody else. And he then keeps throwing it in there until he goes in. But a funny thing happened on the way to a win for the Lakers. See, look, I'm not a believer that all analytics tell every bit of the story. But analytics tell a portion of this story, which is really, really important. Doug Gottliebend for calling this to heard on Fox Sports Radio and Fox Sports One. The Lakers played right into the rocket's hands.

See, what happens when you have a diminutive lineup and you have LeBron James, or you have Anthony Davis, as you say, get down there, post up, we'll throw you the ball because that's what we've been taught for the last 30, 40, 50 years, right? It's a mismatch. When I play professional basketball, if I was caught on a big guy, you would immediately hear the bigger players say, mouse in the house, or just mouse. I got a little guy, give me the ball. And they'd give you the ball, and you felt like that was a sure too. Analytics tell us a completely different story. They tell us that shot in the post is actually an inefficient shot.

If you like numbers, 0.777 is a post-up shot in the NBA. Guys practice it less, and even when they become, you know, lights out scores like Anthony Davis, all basketball players will tell you. You're allowed as a smaller player

generally to be more physical, which makes a higher percentage shot a little bit lower percentage. But here's what analytics doesn't tell you. It doesn't just hurt you in the first shot. It hurts you because you stop running your offense. You know that thing that you've been working on since the beginning of training camp, all those sets, all those ball screens.

LeBron James' best attribute is not as a post player. It's playing what's called downhill, going towards the basket. But when you're throwing it into a mismatch in the post, that goes away. It just does. Everybody stands and stops, and it becomes 1990s NBA basketball, throw it to Pat Ewing, and he goes to work, and if you double team, he kicks out for a three. The other part it hurts you on is your ability to rebound the basketball. You would think that because you're bigger than the other team, well, you can just crash the glass and rebound.

And maybe to a certain extent you can. But one, the defense knows that, so they'll box out more. Two, when you have a guy at the post, I want you to picture this like Anthony Davis, he catches the ball. He has a defender on him. He shoots the basketball or somebody else shoots the basketball. There's a man between him and the basket. It makes it easier to box out, as opposed to when you're running screen and roll and somebody shoots. that same big guy has a running start

who's nearly impossible to box out. You're making yourself easier to defend, you're shooting less efficient shots, you're getting out of your offense, and you're easier to box out. Oh yeah, by the way, because you have a size advantage on the boards, generally guys crash the boards more.

What happens when you do that? The back ends open, and now the other team can transition better. Look, the Houston Rockets played with a center last night. His name is Russell Westbrook. Russell Westbrook, you thought he was a point guard. No, no, no. All you have to have is one, what's called a clogger. One guy doesn't shoot that well.

That's okay. One two-point shooter. The rest are three-point shooters. Nobody's in the lane. It makes you really hard to defend. And instead of having Clint Capella and Russell Westbrook, two, cloggers, if you will, two guys who clog up the lane who can help on James Hardin, who can help on different drives, who can help rebounding.

Now there's no help. If you help, he kicks off. They shoot at three. Yes, the game plan is to expose your mismatch and to beat you off the dribble and to find your big guy and beat him like they beat Kyle Coosman last night. Your weak defender, sure, on offense,

but it actually takes you out of your offense at your own end. Don't believe me? Take a listen to Frank Vogel. He's the head coach of the Lakers as to what went wrong at Staples last night. With the advantage you had with size, it seemed like your team was trying to force the ball a little bit too much to the post,

maybe turning the ball over a little bit. Would that be accurate? Probably the understatement of the year. Yeah, we were terrible with, just like you said, trying to force-feed it inside, you know, getting our spacing right against, you know, their post-frontals and, you know, just not reading the weak side.

You know, I mean, that's where most of our turnovers came. And it disrupted our flow. Disrupt your flow. All that stuff, all the plays you practice, they all go out the window because you're like, we got a mismatch. That was from Spectrum SportsNet. the game, Frank Vogel going, that's the

understatement of the year. It actually screwed us up on offense that we had a size advantage every time down the court and we tried to take advantage of it. Played it in their hands. Meanwhile, when you play small, your shooting percentages better, your turnovers are lower, your three point percentage is better,

and most importantly, you know what your weakness is, so it's easier to at least know how they're going to attack you. Necessity is the mother of all invention, and the Houston Rockets were stuck they were stuck right they couldn't play any other way and be they try with clincapella you know they they've they've tried with stretch bigs they've tried all this different Chris Paul Russell Westbrook it

wasn't working you know what the hell with it let's just instead of having a small ball lineup at the end of the game like the warriors who had their death lineup what if we did it the entire game Dr. Oz had a new year's resolution for America you guys know who Dr. Oz is like America's doctor. And he said to stop eating breakfast. Stop eating breakfast. And you're sitting there and you're got your frosted flakes and you're looking up and you're like Gottlieb, one, you're not cowherd and two, I like frosted flakes. Why do I have to stop eating them? Well, I was taught as a kid that breakfast is the most important meal of the day. In addition to breakfast foods generally being filled with carbs and sugar, right, which is even more carbs. Right. Because I'm

I mean, think about breakfast food, right? Between cereal, which is carbs or pancakes or waffles or whatever. Sure, you can do what Shannon Sharp does if you have discipline. He eats egg whites and oatmeal every day for 20 years. Ask him, it's amazing, right? But most people don't. The whole breakfast is the most important meal of the day. That was from a breakfast company.

That was from a breakfast company. You were sold a bail of goods, just like the whole idea of, hey, we got to throw it to the big guy. Mismatch. Yeah, well, it's actually. better for you to not eat breakfast and to get right to the substantial meals of the day if you want to do the fasting thing or eat quality foods you know you can eat a salad for breakfast you can eat chicken for breakfast that's fine breakfast is not the breakfast foods are not the most important meal of the day you actually don't need to satisfy your hunger and when you're

super hungry coming off asleep the first thing you do is put sugar in your system it actually is worse than not eating that's the same thing as what you've always been taught about which is when you have a mismatch, forget everything else, throw it inside. Mouse in the house. Don't believe me? Lakers who were trying to show off for Darren Collison was on like a recruiting visit last night end up kind of embarrassing themselves by getting completely out of sorts because they're like, hey, their tallest guy is 6'6 and we got Anthony Davis and LeBron James.

Oops. This show, other shows, we have a tendency to kill analytics. Last night was a win. Last night was a win. The trade deadline has passed. There's one big move that everyone seems to love that I hate. I'll explain it next. I'm Doug Gottlieb.

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Doug Gottlieb in for calling. This is The Hurt on Fox Sports Radio Fox Sports One. Chris Broussard will join us. in mere moments after we get an update, all the things going on. Yesterday was the NBA's trade deadline. It came. It went and there were thoughts that Andreo Dada would be the missing piece for maybe a team like the Lakers or maybe a team like the Clippers. Obviously the Lakers, Rob Polinkas, his former agent and people thought he might end up there.

Of course, the Memphis Grizzlies held on to his rights. He refused to play for the Grizzlies. The Grizzlies came out on Twitter and went at him. Dylan Brooks actually got a contract extension, I think because he's up better than they thought player, but also maybe because he defended the honor of Memphis. Anyway, the Miami Heat end up via a trade landing Andre Godala. Oh, and here's the kicker. They gave him a contract extension.

Now, you will hear people around the NBA say, wow, Andre Godala, NBA, NBA finals MVP on the Miami Heat. This is the missing piece. What a great trade. now they're on the same tier as the bucks, elevates them above the raptors and the Boston Celtics, puts them right there head, you know, face to face. The first thing is we cannot take what we see in the regular season to be true. Right?

Go and look at the team that had the best record in the Eastern Conference in the regular season of the past five to ten years, five to ten years. And you will see that very, very rarely, does that team actually get to the NBA finals, nor are they the favorite to get to the NBA finals? And Miami specifically this year, because they have a younger energetic team because Jimmy Butler's trying to prove

he's worth this max contract, Miami's been way better than expected. Keep in mind that Miami has this one thing. They're basically like Hawaii and basketball, right? Like Hawaii, a lot of times they'll get a team on the way out to the Maui Invitational and they'll stop on Honolulu, they'll play a game and they'll lose. Because that team is thinking about the beach.

That team just got off the plane. That team's got no dead legs. You know, they've been drinking papaya juice for the first time in their lives. Miami, any of us, anyone in broadcasting knows this, the South Beach flu is real. Right? Like, we're freaking out, rightfully so I think about this coronavirus. But I can tell you that most media members are. are still recovering and our immune systems are down from the South Beach flu.

And the South Beach flu is just basically like you feel like you're in a foreign country. I think there's really two cities in the United States where you feel like you're in a foreign country. One is Seattle, where you do feel like you're in kind of Canada. And then one is Miami, where you feel like you're in central to South America. You feel like you could be in Argentina or in Brazil. you know, there's just a different sensibility. And heck, you know, it's very easy and normal to go out to dinner at 10 o'clock. Clubs are open super late.

It's just different. And you take Philadelphia, they go down there the other day and they get stumped. Well, they had a day off between Orlando and Miami, South Beach flu. You get to the playoffs and teams aren't going out. Teams are taking you seriously. And suddenly, Miami comes back to reality. But here's the bigger thing. It wasn't just that they traded for Iguodala,

but that's a big thing. Yes, the Lakers wanted Iguadala, but they wanted him on the buyout market. They want him for like a million or two million. They want him for nothing. Now he's going to make $30 million over the next two years. I know you look at Andre Godala and you think, okay, well, he was an all-star,

and then he was a finals MVP. During his time with the Warriors, now he averaged fewer points every year, five points a game last year. Never averaged double-digit. right he hasn't played over 30 minutes a game in the last five years if you remember back two years ago when they survived the Houston Rockets one of the reasons they struggled with the Houston Rockets was he was hurt and then he got hurt again the NBA finals he was leaking oil he was that car

you knew was once upon a time a beautiful car a great an all-star caliber car that you could only drive on weekends. And if you pay a guy 15 million years, that's not a weekend car. That's an everyday car. Andro Godala, in his own words last May, when asked about being hurt, being injured, he said, just a lot of minutes and overuse. I'm old. Igo Adela said after practice, it just flared up real quick. But we have a good training staff. When you've been playing for five long seasons, it's bound to come up. It's rare that you see it. It's hard for a to be realized. My career is almost over anyway, so I really don't care. This is last May, he said my career is almost, be like, well, he took the first half of the

season off, so he's fine. Like, no, that's not the way it works. You have a pair of radials, right? Some tires. And they generally last, you know, 30,000 miles. And you get to like 29,000 miles and they're balding. And you don't drive the car for six months. The radials don't repair themselves. That's not the way it actually works. And your body is the same. It actually becomes harder, not easier. This reminds me like Ferris Bueller's Day Off. Do you guys remember the problem of Ferris Bueller's Day Off at the end of the movie?

You guys remember what happened? Cameron's dad had this incredible Porsche, right? And he knew how many miles were on it. And Ferris was like, don't worry, we're just going to drive to the city and back. Spoiler alert, by the way, if you haven't seen Ferris Bueller's Day Off. You know, they drive it to some parking garage and the guy's like, No problem. Then he drives the car all over Chicago.

You get it back. He's got so many miles. No problem. We'll just put it in reverse. Yet it doesn't work that way. That's how your body's odometer is as well. The idea that Andre Iguidalla is like Ponce de Leon going to find the fountain of youth somewhere in Miami is laughable. Congratulations to Andre Godala, right?

Like I don't hate the player. I hate the game. unless he's going to that same clinic, all those baseball players went to, which I don't think Andre Godale is. Oh, he just got over on my money. Not only do you want me, but you'll give me in another year guaranteed money?

Sure, I'll show up. Fine. You know, I only play about 20 minutes a game. And oh yeah, by the way, I play center or power forward now. That's what he did with the Golden State Warriors. Good luck with that. The heat got so boondoggled,

got so desperate thinking they were a championship team, they end up screwing the whole thing up and giving a guy an extra year who based on his own admission was done last year. Here's John Goulet with the news. No, no, no, no, turn on the news. This is the herd line news. A good analogy with Ferris Bueller, however, a Ferrari is the car, not a Porsche. It was. That was a beautiful car.

It was a beautiful car. I feel like it needed its credit. So we've been talking about the potential new contract for Dak Prescott and the Cowboys for seemingly forever now. And according to team executive vice president Stephen Jones, they want to get something done soon. He said, quote, we want to get this done. Things are fixing to heat up.

We want to put every foot forward and try to grind this out and get a deal done. Schefter had reported last week that he, basically they felt like the franchise tag for DAC was inevitable. Ultimately, do you think this becomes a long-term deal or do you think they're going to have to go franchise route? I think it becomes a long-term deal.

Look, remember, they only have one franchise tag. They also have Amari Cooper who they're trying to negotiate with. And NFL GMs will tell you that even if you have to overpay for a quarterback, if you have one, you're better off with cost certainty. And remember, before the league year ends, they can stick some money on this cap. And here's one other thing that people forget about the franchise tag. Dollar for dollar, it goes against the cap. Whereas you can have some creative math with your cap.

usage. You can spread the cap hit out. You can spread the cap hit out. So it's fixing to heat up. That may not be an adjective that you use here in Southern California, but in Texas it's great. In Texas, it's great. Fixing the heat up. I like it. After the Super Bowl, a lot of media members and angry fans suggested that the 49ers have a Jimmy Garoppolo problem. Some people even think the 49ers win despite what Jimmy Garoppelow can provide them. You know in spite of or despite? I was just trying to figure it out in my head. I was just trying to figure it out in my

as I was saying it. And I think I went to spite. Do we have any English professors out there who'd like to help us? Feel free at Gottlieb shows the Twitter handle. Is it in spite of or despite? I think both are both work. Either way it works.

It's not as good as fixing, but it's not bad. Anyway, his coach, Kyle Shanahan, does not feel the same way as those angry fans. Take a listen. I think Jimmy's one of the main reasons we got to the Super Bowl. I think he overcame a lot. This is his first year in his career, going through an entire NFL.

season. So, I mean, he still doesn't have as many starts and stuff as Baker Mayfield. So it's, I think he had a hell of the first year, truly playing the position for him to be like that and to not let the pressure get to him and to improve as a year it went. I think says a ton about Jimmy. And I can't tell you how much I love coaching the guy as a player and as a person that share. I think we do sometimes, he brings up a good point that we forget how inexperience he is, not necessarily young, because we've been talking about him. Well, he's also 28, but he, you know, yes. Sure. But he does, I mean, he was the

lesser experience of the two quarterbacks in the Super Bowl, despite being four years older than Mahomes. Has the criticism of Jimmy G. been too harsh? You were pretty hard on him after that game, and on Shanahan. Has it gone too far, though? Look, I mean, Kyle, forget what Kyle says, okay?

He's not like he's going to go, like, yeah, he sucked. We really have it. He's not going to say that, okay? It, based upon their actions, will know if they believe what they're actually saying because they can get out of that deal for like $4 million. I don't believe they will. Skip has suggested Tom Brady. He's always wanted to be a nineer. I do think Tom Brady makes that throw on third and ten, but I don't know if Brady can do all the other things to get him to that position. I will say this. I don't think Kyle Shanahan did

him any favors by sitting on the boat, by essentially trying to take a knee at the end of the first half. I mean, he was telling you what he thought. That's right. That was a Blake Bortle's like. We don't believe in you. And you can't fool. I've said this when I was sitting on the couch with Colin. You can't fool players. Players all see that they're like, man, Kyle does not believe that he'll make the right decision, right?

On the other hand, he kind of validated Kyle's feelings based upon how he played in the second half. He did not look confident against the pressure. He missed Kittle clearly on the third down. And it wasn't that he missed Emmanuel Sanders, but you're not supposed to miss long there. He's supposed to miss short if you do.

That way there's past interference. It wasn't close. So do I think they have a Jimmy problem potentially? Look, I don't know the guy as well as Kyle does and John Lynch does. But based upon what we saw, I would say there's a severe lack of confidence in those situations. Some of that is hurt by the coaches. Like, look, even the week before, two weeks before, we're playing the NFC championship game. I know they didn't have to throw it to win it.

You know, they have the game in the bag. But it would have helped his confidence in those key situations if you wouldn't let a rip and throw the football some. Instead, they just kept running it and running it and running it. Granted, Green Bay didn't stop it, but sometimes you have to have the bigger picture in mind when you're a coach, and I don't think Kyle did him any favors. Sure, but you

brought up the Emmanuel Sanders throw. If that's on target, it's the Super Bowl champion and Super Bowl MVP Jimmy Garoppolo we're talking about. It can be that close potentially. And finally, to the NBA, Janus and LeBron picked their all-star rosters

last night as captains of the teams. If you don't know the team is basically to summarize, LeBron drafted all the good ones, and Janice got everybody else. The starters for team LeBron are obviously himself. He took his teammate Anthony Davis first overall. Yes. Kawhi, Luca Donchitz, and James Hardin. Right? Makes sense.

Yes. The starters for Team Janice are himself. Joel Embed, Pascal Seacum, Kemba Walker, and Trey Young. Also, the themes of their reserves, I would say, is apparently Janus just took all the guys in the east. he apparently wants to go back to the whole East West format because he got most of them. Did he get Rudy O'Barre? He also took several, you know, foreign players, but yes.

He did. Are you concerned with Janus' drafting ability? I definitely want to be in a fantasy football league with Yannis. He clearly does not understand how this works. Yes, I mean, this is one of, this is bad. This is not. I mean, it might not matter. It ultimately comes down to the tries harder.

It doesn't matter. And I do think like Trey Young in an all-star format, or sure. He didn't play D.E. defense in the regular season. Like, this would be like a regular game for him. I mean, he could easily drop 40 or 50 because he can shoot it so well. But it feels like, I mean, it feels like he did the opposite of what anyone would do. It is a, it is in a real game, in a real game, he drafted the Bengals, you know, they are, that's what he did.

I almost feel like he's pulling the wool, but this would not be, hey man, I should be a GM when I'm done. No, no. No, no. No, no. And that's John Gullet with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Heard Lye News. Chris Brouss, joined us now, sponsored by Mercedes-Benz. The Best or Nothing, as we are here to recap the trade deadline.

Isn't this so much better than back when you had to break these stories? Oh, my God. Yes, yes. A thousand times, yes. I could just sit back and watch this stuff happening in, come up with my analysis. Okay. Let's work our way backwards. Did we learn anything about the Lakers of the Rockets last night? Obviously, it's one game. I'm not going to jump to too many conclusions. I think the, look, the Rockets may be slightly better than they were with Capella. It's a gimmicky thing. They're the new age version of Don Nelson's Bucks and Mavericks, Doug Mo's Nuggets. Here's the problem, though,

for Houston. It's not like Darry went to the GM, went to Memphis or Charlotte or some other Wobe Gone franchise and turned them around, made them relevant.

In Houston, being relevant and going out in the second round is not enough. You know, Houston's always been a good team. They've had some of the best players we've ever seen. They've won two championships,

been the four finals. And this two years ago, they had what some people would call the best team ever, down three, two, going home, you know, took them to seven games. So all of these moves have been made with the idea of winning the championship. Now, so no matter how dangerous they may be, no matter how much trouble say they maybe would give the Lakers in the series and maybe would take them six or seven,

they can't win the championship this way. And that's the problem. So I also think, Doug, the Lakers let them off the hook to a large degree. LeBron was bigger than any Rockets player that played, and he took eight threes, one for eight, four in the fourth quarter, should have been driving the basketball. And I know he doesn't post a lot, or even just posting, because obviously he could beast people down there.

So look, the Rockets, they're what I thought they were two days ago. They're fun, they're must-see TV, they're sexy. I got to watch them, but I think they're at. absolutely no threat to win it in the West. Look, I wouldn't say no threat. I wouldn't say no threat. Do you think they're the third best team in the West? I'm okay with that.

I'm okay with that. I mean, tell me. Maybe. I mean, I'd like to see him a little more and see what Denver, Utah. Yeah. I mean, like, look, I thought last night that's a win for analytics, right? It's not pure analytics the way in which they're playing, but it's the idea of you keep trying to post us up.

That's actually an inefficient shot. Right? What you said previously is you've got to be driving the basketball. And they completely took the Lakers lost their mind. It's a little bit like a knuckleball in baseball, right? Where you just, all you want to do is that you just want to hit the knuckle ball as far as you can, right? You just want to hit the hell out of it. And it can really throw you off. The problem with the NBA is seven game series.

Teams can adjust their rosters. They can adjust to it. You're going to have nights like game seven of the Western Conference Finals where they don't hit a shot. And they're not a great, I mean, we know they take more threes than anybody, but they're 21st in the league in three-point percentage. Right. But there's a volume there. It's a volume there.

But basically what they did was they took the death lineup and said, hey, let's play the death lineup the whole game instead of just the start of the game. I do agree that they need at least some sort of change of pace, and they don't have that currently on the roster. It opens things up for Westbrook, and you saw what he did, because the lane's wide open for the first time in his career. Correct. And you saw how dangerous he was.

Okay, one more on last night, and then we've got to get to the heat. I want to get to some Durant said and a couple other things. Darren Collison sit in Courtside, or not courtside, but a row back. I'm basically next to Jeannie Bus. This is like a recruiting visit in college. And you got Rondo and Caruso playing. Rondo did not look good. It does appear because they didn't make a move for a point guard, that that's almost a formality.

But he didn't, he could have put the blaker hat on. I think the challenge with Darren is he's not certain yet that he's coming back with his family situation. He's not certain yet from what I'm told. I do think though if he comes back, it's the Lakers. I definitely think that. I know the Clippers want him. But look, if you were in his position, you're getting way more time with the Lakers, right? Oh, yeah.

I mean, I don't know where you get your minutes on the Clippers a few minutes here and there, but for the most part, you're not playing. Yeah. And I think they're going to. I think they're going to cut Rondo in order to make a path for him just because they feel like Rondo can't be a bench guy. Whereas Caruso, even though he kind of bumps in or even though he's bumped into the ceiling in terms of how good he actually is, he accepts and thrives in that role a little bit more.

Chris Broussard to continue to join us. Kevin Durant says he's going to still have his burner accounts. Do we like or dislike what KD has said? Plus, what the hell is the matter with the 76ers? We'll get to that next with Chris Broussard. I'm Doug Gottlieb. This is The Hurt. Be sure to catch live editions of the HARD weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific.

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Doug All right. I've been for Colin. This is The Hurt on Fox Sports Radio and Fox Sports One. Chris Brousard continues to join us. You can hear Chris's show, the odd couple with crazy uncle Rob Parker, seven to 10, Eastern time at night. That's four to seven Pacific Coast time on Fox Sports Radio, the Iheart Radio. app. Okay, let's get to Kevin Durant, who admitted he will still have a

burner phone. He was still like, look, I shouldn't have done what I've done, but I'll still have a burner phone. What's your reaction? This is what I'll say about during, because everybody calls him sensitive, which I get kind of, but I don't think he's sensitive anymore. Like, if

he was sensitive, he would not have said I'm putting out a burner account. You know, so I think what KD is is just a guy that loves social media and he loves engaging with people and I think a lot of

people he's going to engage with with his name attached and others he wants to have fun and do it without his name attached and he can text his friends. Well no I mean regular people like that he doesn't even know he's a people person. Right. Look I have this I actually have this issue. I don't know

that he's a people person in general like being around him. No, no but he's a people person on social media. I actually completely get it. Like, you know, Super Bowl, you know, I can't tell you how many big events I've watched. And, you know, I'm on Twitter and people around me, like, why are you on Twitter?

Like, because I, I, it feels like you're in a- You enjoy doing that. You feel like you're in a bar of people. I'll just say this about people saying about the burner, burner account deal. Just so you know, okay, pretty much everyone important in sports and most people in the world have a, I do not have a burner account.

I was going to ask, do you have a burner account? No, I do not, but like I know bosses that I've had, not here, but at other places, they have burner accounts so they can check in on people, on people without them knowing they're checking in on them. That's what they do. Okay, and I'm guessing our bosses have them as well. And they just don't ever want to get caught up in retweeting something they shouldn't retweet or any of the nonsense and negativity, but they just want to know what's going on and what people

were saying. That actually, I would say of our bosses, and I've worked at three networks, you worked at two, I would say probably 75% of it. them have a burner. Wow. Well, here here's the thing with KD. Now you've got those geniuses out there who are going to be looking for his new burner accounts. But finally,

I've always said this with Kevin Durant, with the social media. If it doesn't affect his ability on the court, because some guys, when you're sensitive, it affects your play. It doesn't affect his play. Like he still goes out there and plays as well as anybody and to his

ultimate level. My question has always been, does it negative? impact your quality of life, but he seems to like it. I wouldn't be into that, but he seems to be into it. I do think he's addicted to social media a little bit. I've been guilty of that at times in my life. I thought the most troubling part is where he now says that he wanted to leave, you know, halfway through the season.

Right. Do you think that impacted his play? Because that's where it would be troubling. Which time they left. Like he was talking about the thunder. Like he already wanted to go. I wanted to go play at the bay, which goes counter to everything he's previously Here's the thing.

I was told in November of his last year in OKC that he had told someone affiliated, like he had told somebody that I want to go play in Golden State. I like the way they play. I was told to keep it hush, hush, and I said something about it in January. But I didn't know if he was definitely going to do it. But I, from what I was told years ago,

that was how he was thinking. I love the way they play. They moved to basketball. Here, we're all ISO. I got rust to deal with. And when he got there, he held the basketball. He was the ball stop. Right, right, right.

Then he started championing that. Not the ball mover. The 76ers lose again. This one to the bucks. M. Bede does not play well. He says he wants to get back to being the fun, Joel Mbid. What is going on with the Philadelphia 76ers? They've got issues in the locker room.

both Ben and Joel want to be the man. And I think at this point they're young and they're both a little more concerned with being celebrities than superstar players. And Simmons, the best evidence of that is that he hasn't improved his jumper at all. I mean, we heard this year he's going to actually shoot it. And yes, he's shot it a little more, but too little.

Look at Zion, not that he's a great shooter, but you see improvement. Look at Janus. he's a great shooter, but you've seen improvement. All these other players are improving their jumper. Ben hasn't. And I know he's putting in some work, but not enough. And so there's a problem there chemistry-wise.

But Joe LNB says something yesterday or the day before that I thought was right on the money, and I've been saying it for at least two years. He said our spacing is the problem. Everybody's jumping on me for shooting threes, and I've done that too. but what they have to do, Doug, in the fourth quarters of games, particularly playoffs, to get Simmons to be guarded, they have to put him near the basket.

So the other team just doesn't sag off of him and double team other guys. And in doing that, today's NBA, you can't have two guys on the block. So MB has to go outside. And he might as well be 6'5 when he's hovering around the 22-foot line. So I agree with him on that. Now, I think a part of him likes it out there. but I also think that that is a huge problem with it. For me, I would do this.

If I'm the Sixers, I'm running them. I let this season play out, obviously. If they go out in the second round or get smashed in the conference finals, I'm looking at either trading and bead or seeing what I can get for him or I'm finding a veteran coach who I know can handle personalities. I would love a Phil Jackson, but obviously I think he's past that. I just, is Mark, I like a Mark Jackson. I know a lot of people in the league don't like him, but I think Mark might be.

Can he magically make Ben Simmons be able to shoot? And the fact that Simmons jumper hasn't improved. Like, I wasn't going to crush him early in his career because lots of guys have started. Magic Johnson is a non-shooter. I mean, Yonis started as a non-shooter. He's not the guy that made five threes against Lakers, you know, but now it's about work. And it appears he hasn't put the work in. Would you trade Simmons?

I told calling this the other day, and you and I have talked, I think the problem with Embed is he's so inconsistent and you're worried about the medicals, right? You just don't know. I think Embed is the more impactful player. I think he might be the most talented guy in the league when he's right, because the good Lord doesn't make guys that big, that agile, that skilled, right? And he's just beginning to kind of figure out how to play championship-winning basketball,

what to do. but like last night he just so up and down whereas Simmons more consistent, less injured and you do feel like at some point he'll be able to shoot. I want to ask you about Leon Rose who I tweet

out is the agent version of Tyrell Williams Tyrell Reed, Tyrorele Reed is a basketball player like people think Leon Rose agent, super agent becomes the president of the Knicks. Do you like it? Look, they've tried

everything. I've said that's where legends go to die. Isaiah Thomas, Phil Jackson, Larry Brown, Lenny Wilkins, they've all struggled there. It's worth a shot. Here's the thing. Everybody's like, well, the agent thing works. Okay, Bob Myers has obviously been great in Golden State. Arn't tell them

who had more clients than anybody hasn't been able to do anything in Detroit. And then Palinka, Rob Polinka, he's fine, but let's be honest. The Lakers success is because LeBron James wanted to come to Hollywood. And he got Anthony Davis here.

Outside of that, I can't give Polinka all this credit for turning around the Lakers. So some agents work, some don't. Here's the thing with Leon. You know who his guy is, worldwide West, William Wesley. And so Wes is the guy that helps get all those guys to Kentucky and things like that. So if he can help get players to New York, it could work out. Yeah, I'll talk about a little bit later. I mean, look, they couldn't even get a meeting with Kevin Durant.

Couldn't get a meeting with Kauai. And I think that's what this has to be about. Chris Broussard, check him on the odd couple. A little bit later on this afternoon, of course, he'll be on all the shows here on Fox Sports One. Coming up next, Dak Prescott has the edge over Jerry Jones because he knows that Jerry can't help himself. We'll explain next.

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Thanks so much for making this part of your day. I'm Doug Gottlie. Filling in for Colin Cowherd, live in Los Angeles, on the IHeart Radio app on Fox Sports One and Fox Sports Radio. Rick Buecker will join us this hour. Does he love or hate what the Warriors did yesterday? I think you'll be surprised by my response to what the Warriors did yesterday. These are interesting times in the NFL because, though the

season is over, the league's year is not yet. And when the league year ends, now a sudden the clock starts over, that's in March. There are a lot of questions that surround quarterbacks this offseason. I know calling yesterday said, hey, Tom Brady, be a great fit with the Dallas Cowboys. Great. Bucky Brooks said, hey, Tom Brady is a system quarterback. He's always played in the same system, though I don't think that system quarterback, is actually a negative. And if you watch the Patriots and how they play, they've kind of evolved and changed based upon the personnel and his age.

I do understand, I think, what Bucky was and other people have gotten at it, what I've said, which is the idea that Brady is going to go play with a new coordinator and a new head coach, new offensive line at this stage in his career, it's like, yeah, I don't, I don't see it. I don't see it. Right? it's like one of those things that I think that you ever know somebody who's never been married before and they're like in their 40s I have a friend like this like there are 40s they've never been married

before you're like man this is hard marriage is not easy anyway but in your 40s it's got to be really hard if you've never been married before because you've always done stuff on your own right you've always done stuff in your own like wait hold on I got to share a sink right Yeah, I actually am. There's a friend of mine who's listening right now. He's like, he's always just done his thing. Wait, we want our phones on the same cloud? No, no, no, no, no.

Same bank account? Like, I'm not sure I like. I'm itching. Just something, right? Like you get to a point in life where, you know, you've kind of done your own thing for so long. I think the same occurs for people who have been married for a long time. you've always done something together

you don't know how to do anything by yourself I think that's where Tom Brady is I don't think he's not going to become a Dallas cowboy I'm not going to become a charger so the cowboys are sitting there going like all right look we got Dak is Dak the greatest quarterback ever no I like it into Draymond Green

right and you can say like Charles Barkley's pointed out congratulate Draymond Green on averaging a triple single but Draymond Green when you put great players around him is a hell of a player we'll talk about the Warriors but like look

Draymond if he's got a score no no Bueno but if your third best player third best scorer is Andrew Wiggins averaging 22 a game like Draymond doesn't have to score to be really good that's Dak you give him Zeke

give an offensive line give him Mari Cooper they're going to have to fix the tight end situation right deck's pretty good now look and stop with the number one offense in football

they couldn't score against the Patriots they couldn't score against they not beat the playoff teams that they played they weren't good offensively against the playoff teams that they played they feasted on the sisters of the poor

in the NFL so I don't think he's great but I saw this quote from Stephen Jones of course the executive vice president of the Dallas Cowboys, he said, quote, we want to get this done. Things are fixing to heat up. We want to put every foot forward and try and grind this out and get a deal done. Do you want me to say that in Texas accent? Can I try that one? We won't get this done. Things are fixing the heat up, right? Does sound kind of cool when you say fixing to.

We're fixing to. You don't say you want to. You don't say you want to. You just, you have to, you have to understand I'm like Oklahoma is kind of sort of Texas, right? Like the part of Oklahoma is like Texas. Part of it's like the Midwest. Tulsa's more like St. Louis. Oklahoma City is more like Dallas. Right? No, you know, that's not really an I reckon sort of place.

No, it's not really. You can throw a y'all in. Like y'all is a comforting sort of word and fix into. Fixing to. That means getting ready to. The rest of the world is getting ready to. I'm fixing it. I'm fixing to fix lunch.

You can actually double. Fixing to fix lunch. but the telling us what you're going to do before you're going to do it's like look we hear it we're going to get this thing done let's just everybody take a breath never forget though that that jack prescott is going to win this contract negotiation and it's not because pat mahome's going to sign for a hundred billion dollars it's not because he's going to get more money than carson wends or you sit there and go like hey jared golf got what i'm better than jared goff even though it should be pointed out carson wens has should have been an MVP if he didn't

get hurt and Jared Gough has played in Super Bowl, two things that Dack Prescott has never done or been mentioned in. You want to say Garoppolo again. Garoppolo played and won an NFC championship game and then played in a Super Bowl. These are things that DAC hasn't done. And if the argument for Dak is, hey, he's a winner, well, what the hell happened this year? He wasn't hurt. The division was down.

They had a soft schedule. They didn't win. But he's still going to win this negotiation. You know why? because Jerry Jones is that dad. That's who he is. And by that dad, I mean he's the dad that sits there and says, I'm going to take away your iPhone.

Look up from your phone. We have company over. Put your phone down. And they go and they grab the phone and they put it in the top drawer. And they're mad. You know how your phone for two weeks. And then later on that night, the kid comes over and says like, hey dad, I need my phone for my homework.

What do you need a phone for your homework? Well, all my friends were all on a text chain and they know what assignments and they know we kind of all do it in group and this is how we do it together. You're like, well, okay, just don't do it again. You know? I mean, look, I'm that dad.

I'm that dad. This is like a nightly battle. Nightly battle. My son gets done, gets back from hoop practice, gets home. We do the guy. I'm supposed to do throw. 30 minutes of reading.

Like, all right, it takes 15 minutes to get to the gym, 15 minutes to get home. Let's read on the way home from the gym and back. Done. Reading, done. Homework, no problem. Food, eating. Shower, had.

He's sitting there and he's on the couch. And sports is on TV, right? SVP's on. We were last night the Lakers on. Lakers are on. Like, man. Dad, can we watch Lakers? Like, let's just watch like 15.

minutes of Lakers. I'm getting a call from upstairs. I'm getting text messages. Hey, bedtime. And I want to be that dad that's like, look, it's about disciplines, by getting to sleep. Everybody's happier when everybody sleeps in your house. Right? When everybody sleeps, everybody's happy. But this is, my son is my best friend. Right? See, my best, my dude. I, man, just, let's just watch 15 minutes. That's Jerry Jones. Emmett Smith gave in. Heck, he even signed once the guy he was

played for the Carolina Panthers and then he got in trouble for domestic violence and now he's an MMA. Greg Hardy, right? Like, he's a bleeding heart dude. I didn't say he's a bleeding heart liberal. I just said he's a bleeding heart dude.

He's like, well, you know, he's a changed guy. Greg, I wasn't a change guy. Not at all. Now, he always would give in to Des Bryant. Heck, the reason he couldn't fire Jason Garry is because his former players are like his kids, and he's the guy, he's the dad that says, I'm going to turn this car around. He never turns the car around. He never turns it around.

Ezekieliot this year. Wasn't Ezekieli's turn to get paid? Could have played him in the fifth year option. There's no reason. And look, you look around the NFL. And from Todd Gurley, who, I don't know if you guys seen this, like the Rams are stuck with Todd Gurley. They don't know what to do. They're going to meet with him.

They can't cut him because it's like $26 million against the cap. No one wants to trade for that contract. And he can't play all the time. So you're comparing to Todd Gurley's contract or Lavian Bell's contract. The Jets liked Laveon Bell's contract so much. They fired the GM who signed it. So we're going to, that's the contract. We're going to give to ZK. Eliot?

Why? Because Jerry can't help himself. Can't help himself. Put down that iPad. Pay attention. Let's just take a breath and have a conversation. And the kid picks back up the iPad. Do it again.

You're losing it for two weeks. Put it in the top drawer. The kid's got it out later that day. That's who he is. He's a 2020 parent. How can you have such a prolific offense, such a talented defense, and not win? Not really disciplined, right?

Not really disciplined. And why aren't you disciplined? Because the guy in charge writing the checks always gives in to the players. always always hell des brian's working out he wants to play for the cowboys of course jerry jones is going to bring him back you know why because he can't help himself he shouldn't

des didn't have the greatest things all the time to say about the Dallas cowboys or the coaching staff or how things ended look it was tied to move on des brian was so good that it took him until the end of the year and only the new orleans saints would pick him up but they tore his killing his tendon like cowboys were right for moving on but he's probably going to give Des another shot. You know why?

Can't help himself. And Dak Prescott knows that. Play the long game. Ask for more money than you possibly should. Not just because of Pat Mahomes or because of golf or because of Garapolo or because a wents, but because the guy who actually signs the check is going to give in. At the end of the day, he's going to take the iPad out of the top drawer and give it back to the kid even though he said he was going to take it for two weeks.

That's who Jerry is. And that's who I am. I want to be tough. I want to be disciplined. But I also don't want to be hated, right? I don't want dad issues when my kids are in their 40s. All right, coming up next. What exactly is wrong with the 76ers?

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They're taking on the roughnecks. Coach by June Jones. Remember when June Jones was the head coach in Hawaii, they played in the Sugar Bowl? I think PJ Walker is their quarterback. XFL. Who doesn't like more football? Like, do you want more football?

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Look, inside the NBA is a great show. It's a great show for a myriad of reasons, mostly because Charles, Barclay. Charles Barkley is a former Philadelphia 76ers. Sixers get blown out. That wasn't blown out. They did make it competitive, at least, with the Milwaukee Bucks. Get beat by the Milwaukee Bucks. And here's Chuck on the Sixers. I think they are the softest, mentally weakest team that had a bunch of talent. They are the Cleveland Browns of the NBA. They got a lot of talent. Browns? And they talk, the talk, and that's it. The difference between Yonis,

and Embed is force. Yonis is playing with force and Embed is playing SOF capital T. Yeah,

I mean, like this is kind of classic Shaq. Look, M.B. did not play well. They're different players.

Look, I just think that the deal is this. Ben Simmons, who I was on this show and I said, I believed he was the most talented

one and done that we'd ever had in college basketball. Now, what happens when you say talented is people think that talent is all that matters. That means you'll be the best. Obviously, Kevin Durant had an incredible year at Texas scoring-wise, but his body wasn't ready yet. He had a lot of his game to develop at the defensive end. Simmons, who kind of built his game to model, among other people, Lamar Odom, right? People think that he wanted to be LeBron. There was some LeBron. There was some magic. but there was a lot of Lamar Odom

Simmons is a remarkable talent. He's a rookie of the year. The problem with Simmons is is he a winning basketball player? Does he care more about winning than anything else? Obviously his jump shooting has not like he had 1-3 and people when Twitter goes crazy. Right?

He has not, I'm not saying he doesn't work, but he has not put in the work to make himself the type of shooter you have to be in the NBA. And look, this is coming from somebody who, if you want to know why I didn't make it, wasn't because I was short. That doesn't help. It was because it couldn't shoot.

And it's even more important now. And if he was on the bucks, I actually think he'd be better off because, I mean, look, Janus is not a great shooter. Now, he'll shoot threes, even though he doesn't shoot a great percentage, and he's improved. But what they do is they put four shooters on the court with him,

so there's nobody in the lane. You can't do that with Embed who's trying to post up, and then Ben Simmons, who's got to drive to the basket. They're a bad fit. And they're also a bad fit in terms of personalities. Ben Simmons wants to be Hollywood. Joel Embed wants to be everybody's best friend and a Joker and silly, and it just doesn't work.

Like, look, for years, Ben Simmons wasn't. wasn't on the Australian national team. There was just this something about him that other dudes didn't dig. It wasn't that they don't like his talent, like his talent. But there's something about that he didn't do, he wasn't a little things guy. Like, remember, if you think of the Australian national team, you think of guys like Matthew Delavadova, who have a fraction of the God-given talent of a Ben Simmons.

But they play incredibly hard. All right? They're incredibly tough. They make shots and they feel better when others are succeeding. Like, that's not Simmons. You can tell me he's all about winning all you want, but you follow him on Instagram. It ain't about winning. It's glam shots every day in front of a car, in front of a plane, from a tiger.

You want to know why? That's why. I don't care about you. Like, what is the LeBron James saying? Keep the main thing, the main thing? keep the main thing the main thing hey dude you want making this league getting a gym and stay in a gym

getting a gym and stay in a gym and I actually think part of his turning down jump shots that are wide open is smart you know like don't get goaded into a shot you're not kind of put you got to what is your game shot what can you make because you're hurting the team by

not taking those shots believe it or not like you actually have to coach him the opposite of everybody else Everybody else, right, when they take bad shots, you take them out. For him, when he turns down a good shot, you got to take him out. You're open. You have to shoot the ball. He is killing the 76ers by forget his lack of makes, his lack of takes.

Take it. You got to take it. And if you don't, you got to come out. I think some of that criticism is on the nose from Chuck. I don't know. Shack, everybody's soft compared to Shaq. This is the old player. Everybody's soft.

League used to be tougher. He's not wrong. A lot of that's the officiating. But Joel Embed continues to refine his talent. He had a bad night last night. And I do think that Embed has some holes in his game, but it feels like he continues to shore them up. If you combine the two players, this just feels like a bad fit.

We were talking about marriage. This is one where they're walking down the aisle and somebody's like, six months. Right? Six months. I give it six months. Here we are a couple years in and we're postponing the inevitable. That's what we're doing. Let's get to John Gullet with the news.

No, no, no, no, no, turn on the news. This is the Herdline News. Sponsored by Liberty Mutual Insurance, only pay for what you need. So, Doug, anytime you have a top quarterback prospect expected to go number one, and a historically inept franchise with the first pick. Whisters always started about the player potentially refusing to go to that team. It worked out for Elway. He didn't go to the Baltimore Colts.

Won two Super Bowls with the Broncos. Worked out for Eli. One two Super Bowles with the Giants didn't go to the Chargers. Now people are wondering if Joe Burrow might do the same thing. His father, Jimmy Burrow, tried to put some water on that fire. In a text to a local Fox reporter in Cincinnati, didn't really get the flames out. He said, not sure where that information is coming from.

We are all excited that Joe has put himself in a position to be considered as a possible high draft choice. What's wrong with that? It doesn't say he's totally happy going to Cincinnati. I'm sure he's probably parsing his words because he doesn't. Maybe he thinks he can't see Cincinnati. I don't know. Look, the kids from Ohio, he's going to be the number one-all-pick. He's going to the Bengals and they're going to draft him.

And if he doesn't want to play, they're going to sit. they're going to hold on to his rights. And he's not going to sit for a year. It's not happening. So I just, I understand that Jordan Palmer trains him and that Carson Palmer said on our air, I wouldn't go play for the Bengals. It was a long time ago when Carson walked. And the reason Carson walked and I, you know, he's a friend was because when he signed that

huge contract before he hurt his knee, they promised him some things. Things were changing and they didn't change. But like before we go crazy over the Bengals being atrocious the past two years, previous to that, they were a playoff team. a playoff contender. They were. So do I think they are more functional and dysfunctional? No, I think they got a lot of holes.

And in all honesty, they'd probably be smart to trade that pick. Sure. Because they need players. They have an atrocious defense. But the kids from Ohio is the number one quarterback. They need a quarterback. They're going to move on from Andy Dalton. Joe Burrough is going to be the guy.

People are going to need to deal with it. I get you. I guess my only issue would be why not just come out and say, like, no one has said I'm not going to do that. I'm totally cool. Like, he hasn't said that. He could end all of this, right? He could just say, like, no, I, hey, I would love to play for Cincinnati if I'm lucky enough to be taken number one.

Done. He won't say it, which means it's at least crossed his mind. Oh, I don't think there's any doubt. It's crossed their mind, right? Miami wants him. Sure. You know, and Mr. Ross, who owns the team has come, you know, everybody thinks like that's a great place. And they have all these picks and they're going to rebuild things or whatever.

I just, like, look, the Bay, this is funny. Last year, I did play-by-play, play-by-play for the Bengals game against the Saints. Okay. And the Saints didn't punt the entire day. And remember, going into, I think the last two weeks of the season, this is last year, before they fired Marvin, they had the worst defense in the history of the NFL. Yeah, it was up there. And I was talking to an NFL GM buddy of mine, and he was like, look, anybody else in the NFL fires their defensive. staff after a team doesn't punt in a home game

than that embarrassed. Except the Bengals. It's like the Andy Dalton thing. Anybody else in the NFL would have traded Andy Dalton. Except the Bengals. They do things their own way. And while he can say, you know, not say we want to be a Bengal and Burrow can say it,

the Bengals are going to take him come hell or high water. After having trouble picking his All-Star team last night or perceived trouble, Janus actually went on to pretty much destroyed the 76ers night, 112.101. He had 36 points and 20 boards. And after the game, he actually talked about why he's so glad his team didn't make any moves at the deadline.

You know, I think we're the best team in the NBA. We have the best record in the NBA. For me, I think this should not be, you know, any change. And thank God there wasn't. I think the guys that we have, you know, the games that we have in the team is amazed right now. The guys that we have, they're playing great, and this is the guys that I'm going to go to war with. These are the guys that I'm going to war with all season. And I'm happy that we still have the same team. Is there anyone in the East that could knock them out of the playoffs, or did they have a pretty clear path to the finals? Oh, I think the Celtics can knock them out.

I really actually do. I'm not buying the Raptors thing. People are like, oh, man, the Raptors last year. You're like, look, the Raptors were great, but they needed an incredible role. on a kawai shot and then they needed everybody for golden state to get hurt in order to win that so you know now you lose kawai raptors have great culture i don't think you're winning with great culture i think the celtis could look this the but we got a seat in the playoffs from yonels and the celtics are one of the few teams built with a jason tatum and other players of that size that you feel like could marginalize him some marginalize him some um but this is kind of classic spin right Like, if you don't make a trade, it's because we love our chemistry and we love our guys. If you do make a trade, it's because we just were one or two pieces away. Doesn't mean the bucks won't acquire a guy.

They're not going to do in the trade market. They may do in the buyout market. And finally, the Lakers were unable to bring in anyone at the trade deadline. Clippers beat them out for Marcus Morris. They had been hoping Andre Iguado would get bought out. Turns out he decided to trade for him and give him a bunch of money. So now it's on to plan B. The retired Darren Collison.

Colleton was seen at the Lakers game last night in the second row right around Jeannie Bus. He unexpectedly retired in the off season, but reports have been out there that he is contemplating a comeback. He's only 32 years old. Do the Lakers need point guard help? You've talked about that before on the show. Yes.

This is the only move left to make, pretty much. How much of a necessity is it for them to convince him to come out of retirement and join the Lakers? I think it's a huge necessity. I mean, because if not the Lakers, he goes to the Clippers. but this was kind of part of their plan. Remember, he was set to become a Laker, and then he decided to retire.

And he's been working out. Look, you don't go sit, courtside with the Lakers. No, unless you're, that was a recruiting visit. My only question is, why didn't the UCLA guys take into Moneys afterwards? That's where you close the deal.

Why didn't he go to Monez and have a good stake and close the deal last night? If you're LeBron, you've got to go close this thing, and it's going to be hard because you are friends with Rondo, right? Everybody loves Caruso. So Quinn Cook has, you know, had all these emotions because of Kobe, that's fine. This is a business.

We need Darren Collison. Yeah. So I don't think he goes to the game unless he was pretty sure that he's like, what do they call it in commitments? Like a strong lean somewhere? Well, also, you don't sit. Like, it's one thing to go to the game. You're sitting next to Jeannie Bus in the second row. So clearly in your mind.

The night that the trade deadline comes and goes and the Lakers don't make a move for. a point card. Like, come on. What do you think he's there for? I just can't believe he didn't have the multiple hats. Like at halftime, right? He's got like a Clippers hat. He's got a, I don't know, throw in something. He's got a heat hat. Everybody's booing or a Warriors hat.

King's hat. And then he puts a Lakers hat on. And then he puts on the Lakers hat. The place goes crazy. I was missing from last night. That's John Gulet with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Hurd-Lie News. Let's bring in Rick Buecker. Of course, you see him on Fox Sports 1, long-time NBA sage,

who looks fresh and rested, because he doesn't have to do all that nonsense breaking story stuff. Leave that to everybody else and, like, constantly staring at your phone, okay, can I go with it now? Can I go with it? Can I go with it now? Right. The biggest move pulled off yesterday was done by who?

I would say the clipper is acquiring Marcus Morris. I would say the most impactful move. Was that a a block, right? Was that a, yes, a block move? Let's just, we know the term, right? Where it's like, I don't, it's not that we want them.

We don't want you to have them. No, I wouldn't go that far. There's a tumbo. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Yeah. No, I wouldn't go that far because they did want to add front court depth. They were going to use Mo Harclis and the number one pick to add a front court player of some kind. If it hadn't been Marcus Morckless,

Morris. I think they would have taken a run at Thad Young with the Chicago Bulls. They wanted that because they're looking, they are looking across the hallway and they're looking at that size. And even though they won both matchups, they're like, we get into a playoff situation. We don't want to have to rely on Zubach and Montrez-Harrell as are basically our only two post players, unless we throw Kauai Leonard in there, Paul George. Don't necessarily want to do that. So it was that. It was blocking both ways, though, to be honest with you in that the Lakers and it is I was on undisputed when I said I believe that he's going to be a Laker they were literally while I was on the air the Knicks and the Lakers were talking and the

Lakers at that point after 24 hours of talking coos and everything else pulled Kyle Kuzma off the table and the clips the Knicks basically said oh if coos isn't in it we're going to go to the other guys. And they knew they could do that deal if Shammett wasn't, Landry Shammett wasn't in the deal. So it was sitting there for them. And that's ultimately how it came down. And I think it was as it is a battle. Look, there's no question. It's a turf battle. And whoever got Marcus Morris was going to feel like they won the day. Okay. Darren Collison showing up a Lakers game. Isn't that a win for the Lakers? Yes. I would say so, especially because the Clippers played the night before against the heat. And there's no rule that a retired guy can't show up.

before the trade deadline to take in a game of the team of his choice. So, yeah, I would say that Collison is going there. And honestly, in terms of deciding who's in a better place right now, I've said this to be a year. I think the Clippers are the better, deeper team. Marcus Morris only makes them better and deeper. But I do want to see the buyout market, and I want to see what Darren Collison decides to do.

Because I believe Rob Polinka deserves that. He has earned that. People pan this team at the beginning of the year with the pieces that he put together. And ultimately, these pieces have come together and have the best record in the Western Conference. So he doesn't have a whole lot to play with, but I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt until I see what happens. Why would the heat give Andre Goddala another year? Because he didn't want to go there. I know.

That wasn't on his list. I understand, but he barely made it through the last two seasons. He said he was done and now he's not done. it's a fair question. I don't have the answer as to where his mindset is, is whether he's like he can play 36 holes, like if we're talking about 36 whole, can you play

36 minutes? Yeah, no. 36 minutes in one night? Yes. No, that's not. No. I mean, yeah, but they'd be done. They were not one piece away. I don't understand. Like, if you're one piece away, like you need a championship player, a deep playoff run.

Remember, he played the four or the five with the Warriors. Like, I don't know if he fits. Well, but here's the thing. From where the heat are, there's no question that he makes them better. They are, you always think of the heat as this grinding team, defensive-oriented team. They're an offensive. They're a good offensive team now.

They're a mediocre defensive team. His ability to organize. He's a mediocre offensive player at best. Okay. But that's fine. That's why it fits because you've got plenty of offense. You have the offense that you need. That's why he worked in Golden.

State. That's why I believe he'll work in Miami. Where you need him is you need him to organize your defense. You need him to make sure that everybody's in the right place. And he can still get it done in short minutes at the defensive end of the floor. Okay. I don't love it. Clearly not.

No. Look, I liked him on the buyout market. If you get him for $2 million he's not going to Miami on the buyout market. No, I'm saying for the Lakers. Like, like Colin sat here. He was like, hey, the Lakers want him. Yeah, they wanted him at $2 million. They don't want him at 15 for two years. Well, Memphis wasn't going to do that. And Memphis really, honestly,

it ended up well for everybody, but they wanted him to come into training camp. And just while they're trying to get a deal worked out, show up, he didn't want to show up. So they weren't inclined to do him any favors. And they knew if he went to the buyout market, he was going to L.A. Okay, I want to talk to you about the Warriors and what they did. And if you like or don't like that trade, I'll give you my, hold on. Why do we have to talk about this? Why? They're not a good team.

The Timberwolves are not a good team. I know. And they just traded for a player who does it. He's not a winning player. Right? They had one. I understand. That's a good player.

That's not a winning player. I got it. But I actually love it for the Warriors. I do too. Okay. All right. We'll get to that. Upcoming next in The Hurt.

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conversations about all kinds of stuff. Like being an internet famous referee. We're in the middle of a game. This linebacker walks up to me, he goes, hey, ref, my mom wants you to wave at her. What? Time out. Quarterback on office blue 42.

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MyCultura podcast network available on the I-Hart Radio app, Apple Podcast. or wherever you get your podcasts. Colin, this is the herd. Rick Buecker continues to join us. T.J. Hushman Zata next hour. Okay, I watch Fox Sports One all day. I love my guy Nick Wright. He is Mr. Houston Rockets.

So he's having a good day. He does not like the Golden State Warriors. And he's killing the Golden State Warriors trade because they went out and they got Andrew Wiggins for DeAngelo Russell. and Andrew Wiggins is going to make a lot of money over the next three years. Right. Do you like the trade for the Warriors?

Yes. I mean, they didn't have a whole lot of options, but they had hoped that when they got DeAngelo Russell, that he was going to absorb the Warriors culture. And he did not. Yes. And so I don't know if Andrew Wiggins will, but you at least get to find out.

And you get a first round pick back. So they salvaged that because they had to give one up in getting DeAngelo in the first place. By the way, Calhard tweeting out pictures on a ski lift right now. So thanks, Colin, for watching the show. I know he's got a well-earned day off. This is interesting. Steve Kerr said this on Andrew Wiggins.

Minnesota needed him to be a star. We're not asking him to be a star. We're asking to play a role on a team that already has some star players. Now, that may be hard for Andrew Wiggins to take initially, but this could make his career. I don't like Andrew. It's like what people don't like about Andrew Wiggins that have coached and played with Andrew Wiggins is he's not an alpha.

Well, guess what? They have an alpha, they have a beta. You know? I mean, the defensive alpha, obviously is Raymond. The offensive alpha is Steph Curry. He doesn't have to. And like Colin said, he's basically a Canadian Harrison Barnes. I think he's better than Harrison Barnes.

Yeah. And the question is going to be, does he want to be treated like an alpha? Does he want to be treated like a star? He's not, he doesn't have that DNA to be the leader of your team, but does he want the treatment that comes with being the star? I'm not going to, there are plenty of players that are not alphas that don't want to do all the intangible things that are required of a leader, but they want all the perks that come with being the leader.

That's the question we don't have. But he also, like physically being, having to play three, the opportunity there is the opportunity is there for Wiggins to turn this and make this successful. And you never know when a guy gets traded for the first time. Like, is that a shock to the system that makes him realize, oh, I got to do something different if I want to make a mark in this league? We will see, but it's worth the gamble for the warriors to do that because DiAngelo Russell was never going to work with the way.

he doesn't have the golden state warriors DNA. No, well, first in terms of playing, DeAngle Russell is a ball screen guy, and when the warriors are right, they run the fewest number of ball screens of anybody in the NBA. And if they do, it's going to be with the ball and Steph's hands. Correct. Correct.

And then there's the kind of chemical makeup of he wants to be the alpha, right? And he's not a culture guy. Like Brooklyn loved their culture last year, and they let him walk out the door. What does that tell you? 100%. Or they sat him in the fourth quarter of it.

in a lot of games. Spencer Dinwiddie is a... Spencer Dinwiddie is not as prolific a score, may not have the knights of 50 points, but they like Spencer Dinwiddie better. And Spencer Dinwiddie makes less money. That should be pointed out. I agree.

Again, everyone, we do this all the time. We have these imaginary scenarios of what the Warriors should have done. There aren't that many options of guys you can get to be a third score and to buy in and guys that can sacrifice here. We don't know if it's a perfect fit, but if I told you that next year,

they'll have Steph, who's fresh rested, right? They'll have Clay, who's fresh rested, although coming off a knee. They'll have Draymond. They'll have Andrew Wiggins. And then you got Eric Pascal, you got Kavanaugh-Luny, and then whatever they do with the number one pick or next year's number one pick of Minnesota, like they can, they'll probably get a plethora of a couple veteran players to go with it.

Right. Like, the Warriors are back. Sorry. Wait, whoa, whoa, whoa. They'll be a good team. They will be a good team. Are they going to be a contending? team? Yes. No, they're not going to be a contending team. They have Steph Curry and Clay Thompson and

Draymond Green and Andrew Wiggins. They're not going to be contending teams. We need to see all three of those guys back and what they are when they get back. Look, but the second part is we're immediately elevating Eric Pascal and Andrew Wiggins into guys that are going to be primary rotation players on a contending team. Yeah. You don't have to look. Yeah. I haven't even seen him in the playoffs. I've seen neither one of those guys in a single playoff game, much less under the game five, a game seven trying to get to the next round. Assuming Steph Curry is back and the only, he suffered a hand injury, right? It's not like he's debilitating back injury or there. There was some nerve damage in there. Okay. He looks pretty

good shooting half court shots. He does that. Okay. So we can assume he's a two-time MVP. Yes. He's a first ballot hall of famer. Yes. He's only 30 years old. He's. he'll be fine. Yes. Well, I really, honestly, I believe this is the element that people are sleeping on a little bit, is that when Kevin Durant came in, there's been a

residual effect on Clay, on Steph, and Dremont. They're not the same player. They weren't the same players last year. No question. They were two, three years ago. And the league is adjusted? And the league's caught up. They don't have that shock value of the way they play.

So I just, there's some intangible elements of what the cost of the five-year run was physically, even on the studs that I don't think that people are taking into account that bringing Kevin Durant in, camouflaged all of that. There's no question. Like, look, I've said it on this show, and Katie's doing himself no favors with his comments, but I believe that as much as Kevin Durant needed the space that Golden State created so he could show that he was the best score,

They needed him because the league was catching up and because he was not only an elixir on offense, he was a magic eraser on defense because he could hide Steph Curry defensively, whereas others simply could not. I do want to ask you about Kevin Durant. And now he's saying, look, I was going to leave Oklahoma City all along. I was going to leave the Warriors all along. And I'm going to keep the burner account. Yeah.

So everything he said previously was BS. and now he's telling the truth and he's not going to hide from the... What's your read on KD? It's going to be different tomorrow. These two are made for each other, right? You got Kyrie Irving who thinks he's the smartest guy on earth who no one can stand, but he's crazy talented.

And he got Kevin Durant who, by all accounts, he's a great dude. But he just can't help himself on social media and keeps trying to explain why he did what he did five years ago, last year, whatever. They're great players, but man, they just can't help themselves. Katie doesn't get the sense that Katie doesn't like this description, but Katie is really still trying to figure out who he is.

And Kyrie Irving is too. Kyrie Irving just is adamant that he already knows exactly who he is. And so he plays it a little bit different, but they're in the same boat. And this pairing is more talented. I hate to make the comparison, but this pairing scares me as the nucleus of a team, almost as much as Carl Anthony Towns and DiAngelo Russell scare me as the nucleus of a team. Not quite as much. The Minnesota pairing to me is a disaster waiting to happen.

But this is not that far part. The Knicks have Leon Rose running their basketball franchise now. Would they have gotten at least an interview with Kevin? And would it change? Because I believe what they did it because, look, last summer they couldn't even get an interview and a dinner with Kauai and with Kevin Durant. That's what this is about, right? Well, that's what this is about. That is what this is about. I just, I'm at the point now where everybody wants to, you know, who's Leon Rose and what are his management skills and can he finally be the elixir that gets them there? Jim Dolan never hands over the keys to the car. He says he's handing over the keys to the car. He did it to Isaiah and Isaiah ran it into the gutter.

He did to Phil Jackson. He ran in the gutter. No, you cannot, it is impossible to separate what the decisions that are being made, the decisions that are being made by the person who's in charge and the decisions that Jim Dolan says, I want you to do this. It happens, it is,

happened, it will continue to happen. And it's just, there's no way around it. Here's the analogy, okay? By the way, Leon Rose, it's an upset. He's actually a white guy. But Leon Rose is Jim Dolan's black friend, right? Like, it's all of a sudden makes him, like, you're not cool. You know, you can still be a racist and have a black friend, right? You just, you can. And by the way, can I, a service announcement for next fans that keep yelling,

sell the team? When you say that, it makes it more adamant that he's going to keep it. It makes it worse. saw last night in LA from the Rockets really is a win for analytics. Get to that next in The Herd. One more Herd. The Herd streams 24 hours a day, seven days a week within the IHeart radio app. Search Herd to listen live or on demand whenever you'd like. Ah, this is the herd.

Wherever you may be and however you may be making it as part of your day. Thanks so much. I'm Doug Gottlie, filling in for Colin Cowherd, live from Los Angeles on the IHeart Radio app. radio and here are on fox sports one hope you are having a great great friday february seven xFL getting underway this weekend college hoops 62 college hoops games last night alone of course big slate of college hoops games tonight on fox sports one maryland taking on illinois and of course you got all weekend long and then you got xFL coverage on big fox it's going to be a great weekend of sports welcome in hope you're uh hope you're uh hope you're

you're having a wonderful Friday. T.J. Hushman Zada is going to join us. I do want to talk about the Rockets and what we saw from them last night and the lesson in small ball. In the lesson in small ball. But I want to start with Tom Brady. Thomas Edward

Patrick Brady, who I do not believe or I used to always say he's not the greatest quarterback ever, but Aaron Rogers is the greatest quarterback ever. Checks all the boxes. Now, Patma Holmes, now that he's won a Super Bowl, check so many of those boxes.

But when you've accomplished what he's accomplished as consistently as he's accomplished it, there's something to it, right? Like, I get stat guys, okay? I understand stat guys. If stats determine who the best was, Russell Westbrook is the greatest player in the history of modern basketball. No one's ever averaged a triple double in modern day basketball since the Big O. He's done it three consecutive years. If we're going by stats, there's your greatest.

But there's more to it, right? It's not just field goal or effective field goal percentage. What do you do in the second half? Pat Mahomes didn't play great in the Super Bowl, but he played great in the fourth quarter. Competitive greatness. Can you play great when greatness is called upon? Tom Brady did that last year in the Super Bowl.

He didn't play well. Last year, Super Bowl was a terrible football game. Thank God it wasn't on Fox. It was an awful watch. It wasn't anything like what we saw Sunday. It wasn't. But in the fourth quarter, an important drive, Brady found away. Edelman, Edelman, Edelman, Gron, Gron, Gron, Gron, Edelman, Gron, Edelman,

Tchon, 133, they win the game. Confetti Falls, sixth ring. And it's interesting. Look, I don't think he's nearly what he used to be. And he's gotten to a place where he has to have a lot more help. And the irony to Tom Brady wanting what I think amounts to a Jordan type of contract. Okay, Michael Jordan, if you remember it, and this short segment is going to be a lesson in Michael Jordan because people seem to have taken all different sorts of meaning into who and what Michael Jordan was. Michael Jordan never made $5 million a year in his regular season in his contracts, up until his last two years.

where he made $30 million both those two years. And that's really what people believe that Brady wants. Like, hey, man, put some respect in it. Give me a nice little payday, a little payback for all those other years on the cheap. The problem with that is, the problem with it is with the salary cap and with Brady in the state that he is age-wise,

you need that money. Because that money will help you get wide receivers, tight-end help. More help, more help, better off, offensive line. So there's a catch-22 to it, right? Like, you want to play Brady, you're fine paying Brady, but there's a limit to it because you need to sprinkle that around. And he's not really a top-five, top-10 quarterback anymore, even if historically he's arguably the greatest of all time. But I heard a mischaracterization of both Brady and Jordan that I wanted to point out.

Okay. I like Bucky Brooks. He's a former NFL player. He works in the NFL network. Right. But, and part of this is not, we take, we, there's words that are not actually bad words that we consider bad words. I'll give you one. Mediocre. Mediocre.

Ah, it's a mediocre steak. It's a mediocre salad. He's a mediocre player. What does the word mediocre actually mean? Average. Average. If I said Tom Brady is a mediocre quarterback, immediately, you believe that is a, a negative. But if there's

32 quarterbacks in the NFL and he's mediocre, that puts him somewhere in the what? 13, 14 to 18, 19 variety? Like, we're not saying that he's Mitch Chubisket.

We're not saying that he's Foles. We're not saying we're not saying that he's Andy Dalton, although maybe Andy Dalton is his equal at this point in both of their careers. We're saying he's somewhere in the middle. Like, look, there's 32 dudes on earth who can do this, and he's somewhere in the neighborhood of, I don't know, 14 to 17 or 18

or 19 or 20. Mediocre is, means average. Look up the dictionary definition. So when people say he's a system quarterback, we automatically think that's a negative. Now, it can be, we should also point out that I think what most people mean now when they say, Tom, Brady is a system quarterback is Tom Brady's only played one type of verbiage, one sort of system. But the truth is, it's evolved several times. When he first became the quarterback, they were running team. Remember they signed Corey Dillon. It was a big thing.

They signed Corey Dillon from the Bengals and he helped him win a championship. Then they, everything was a screen pass. They became the first team to really, they along maybe with the, before them, the Rams, to use the screen pass, to use running backs out of the backfield, that ultimate Mike Mart's mismatch, running back on a linebacker. That was their big third down play. Then they got Randy Moss, and it was, they were, he threw the best deep ball in the league, 50 touchdown passes.

Then, of course, he had Welker, who was the best third down wide receiver in the league, maybe in the history of the league. And more recently, he had Grunk, he had Edelman, and then they became a power running team last year, two years ago, excuse me. But here is Bucky Brooks on Speak for Yourself. Talk about Tom Brady and the offense that he's in. He's a system quarterback who has played in a great system that has produced a lot of winning.

Because that same system helped Matt Castle go 11 and 5 when Tom Brady wasn't available to the knee. Tom Brady at this stage of his career, he needs the system more than ever. Like if we're talking about Michael Jordan, the one thing you can never question about Michael Jordan, he was a transcendent player. He was transcended in college.

He was transcended from the time he stepped. into the league. We can never say that Tom Brady was transcended coming into the league. Okay. How many years in the league did he win his first Super Bowl? I think it was two. Whereas Jordan, it took him, what, seven years? Look, I believe Michael Jordan is the greatest basketball player I've ever seen. But if we're going to properly characterize Michael Jordan, we should point out he didn't win anything until Phil Jackson brought the triangle offense in and ran it. That's a system. And if you want to go, well, what was it like when Brady left? Look, when Tom Brady got hurt,

and here's the untold story of Tom Brady. This is going to be for all, and Colin doesn't say this, and he's Brady's biggest fan, probably because Brady has incredible hair. He's like Benjamin Button. He keeps looking younger. I don't know. But he loves Brady, but he never mentions this. We're actually robbed of what should have been the Tom Brady-dominated. the league statistically era. They were 16 and 0 became 18 and 0. They lost in the Super Bowl on a couple of crazy plays. He got hurt and didn't play the next year.

Blew out his knee. They had the same team. They had the far away. They had Randy Moss in his prime. Tom Brady in his prime. They were the far and away the best team. And yeah, Matt Castle won 11 games. They won 16 games the year before.

That's a minus five. Is my math okay? Michael Jordan only played in one system that he won in. That's the triangle offense. The year he missed, okay? The year he missed because he came back mid-year of the second year, and he was 45 and he wasn't great in the playoffs, and he lost the ball,

and he wasn't sharp dribbling, lost the ball against the Orlando Magic. The year he missed, the Chicago Bulls went from 57 wins to 55 wins. And I think Jordan's the greatest player ever. But if we're going drop off, there's your parallel. Like, let's not miss character. Do I think Tom Brady needs that system? Yes, I think he needs it because trying to teach an old dog, new tricks doesn't work. Doesn't work.

Look, here's the way it works in sports, okay? You run a play, we call that Alabama. Well, I've always called that Chicago. We call that Alabama, right? That's what they do. We call it Alabama. you get to a certain type of verbiage and that's all you ever use that verbiage for you're going to relearn a new language i would liken it to children okay apparently there's some portion of

your brain where you can learn a new language right but that portion of your brain starts to shrink up the older you get like when you're before you're five or six years old you can learn language is very, very easy. And then if you don't exercise that part of your brain, it starts to shrink up. Try and learn a new language when you're in your 30s or 40s. It's almost impossible. That's the same

in football. You get into the league and you know one way of playing, you know one type of verbiage, and all of a sudden, you know, in year 20, you're going to learn a new language? It doesn't mean it's impossible, but the likelihood for seamless success is

minute. Minute. minute. Tom Brady is a system quarterback if the system is winning. Does he need to have his guys like his offensive coordinator and his all the same verbiage and some of the same players

and familiarity? Absolutely. Absolutely. But if you want to break it down, Jordan only one in one system. Hell, Kobe only one in one system. Phil Jackson, Triangle. Only one to one system. And when Jordan was out for one year, they won two less games.

Tom Brady, they've actually evolved and played different styles in different years. And when he was out for one year with his most talented team, they won five less games in a 16 game season. So maybe it's how we use the, how we, just like how we react to the word mediocre, how we react to the term system quarterback that needs to change. T.J. Hushmanzada joins the show. Will Dack ultimately win in negotiation over Jerry Jones? Plus, we're going to talk some Lakers because Hush loves the Lakers, and I like, I thought the Lakers, it was fascinating to watch

the Rockets win with small ball last night. That's upcoming next in The Hurt. Be sure to catch live editions of The HARD weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the IHeard Radio app. Doug Galdivin for Colin, this is The Hurt. T.J. O'Smanzano, join us in moments. I'll ask him about Dak Prescott and this contract negotiation. I did want to kind of delve in quickly to the Rockets last night and their use of small

ball. And look, we have been taught things our entire lives, which aren't actually true, right? We've been taught that, you know, size matters. Well, I've seen Jose Al Tuve, granted they were banging the trash can, but in spite of the fact he's a smaller package being able to hit the ball out of the yard and win the World Series MVP as well as in regular season MVP. You know? I mean, like, look, the analytics thing, people have to understand why small ball does in fact work. And last night was the perfect example.

Forget about the fact that everybody, is going to concentrate on the three-point shooting of the rockets. Well, they're not going to shoot that high a percentage every night. And, you know, they're going to be, of course, there are going to be nights where, like game seven in the Western Conference finals, I don't know if they ever miss 27 in a row again, but it's going to be bad and they're going to get beaten. But the bigger part is what you do on offense. Look, analytics will give you a guide for what is and what is not an efficient shot or an efficient play. And the Lakers kept throwing the ball to the block to Anthony Davis. That's playing right into the hands of the Houston Rockets.

Because even if you shoot, even if you shoot a post-up shot, the numbers say that that's a 0.77 PPP, points per possession. And good basketball is over 1.0. You don't have to know how they come up with the math. Just know that 0.77 is not anywhere close to 1.0, correct? In addition to that, in addition to that, it kills your ability for your best big guy to be a rebounder because he's standing in the post with a guy behind him. He shoots the basketball.

There's a guy right there to box him out. Lastly, the Rockets knew exactly how you're going to attack them instead of running your offense. Instead of playing how you normally play. Don't believe me, this is Frank Vogel, head coach of the Lakers when asked if they focused too much on those mismatches at the post. With the advantage you had with size, it seemed like your team was trying to force the ball a little bit too much to the post, maybe turning the ball over a little bit. Would that be accurate? Probably the understatement of the year. Yeah, we were terrible with, just like you said,

trying to force it, force-feeed it inside, you know, getting our spacing right against, you know, their post-frontals and, you know, just not reading the weak side. You know, I mean, that's where most of our turnovers came, and it disrupted our flow. disrupt your flow. You shot yourself in the foot because you're like, we got, we got advantage, we got advantage. But that's not how they really play. Anthony Davis not a true post-up player.

LeBron, people are like, well, LeBron should have posted. He's not a post player? LeBron plays downhill. Come off a screenplay downhill, create shots for others. Occasionally rolling the post and be a passer. They got completely out of sorts because that's what happens when you think, like, well, we're bigger than them. Let's just shoot over them.

There's a reason basketball is not playing. that way anymore. Last night was a perfect example of that reason. Get to John Goulet with the news. No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. Goulet, I get that, by the way, from parents.

I coach, I have an A.U program. And I have some big kids and like, well, how come you don't post guys up? It's like, someone to teach them to do something they're not going to do the rest of their life? Nah, not going to do that. As someone who was, I'm 6'4 now. Yeah. But that's big in a small town. Yeah, I was.

Canton, Connecticut. I was the post guy. Shout out to Canton, the Warriors. That's right. Go stand on the block and be tall. Right. That's what they used to teach you to do. And then you get to real basketball, you're like, yeah, that's not, we don't want you to do that anymore.

No. So Janice and LeBron picked their all-star rosters last night. They had their draft. I guess Janice traded all of his picks to LeBron because team LeBron got Anthony Davis as starters. LeBron, Anthony Davis, Kauai, Luca Donjitz, and James Hardin. And Team Yonis has Embeded, Pascal Seaccom, Campbell Walker, and Tray. Dre Young. Yes, Doug.

Is it possible that Janus is tanking for the next couple years, I'll start playing? Maybe it's a favor. It's, hey, this year you can have all the good players in next year. I'll get them. Now, this was pretty funny, though. When Janus was trying to side between some point guards, he apparently was not interested in selecting James Harden.

Take a listen. This is a tough one. I'm between Ken by Tre Young. Wait, you don't want to. You don't want to dribbler? I want somebody that's going to pass the ball That's what I want Janice got jokes

Good for him A little odd though Not taking James Hardin I mean it's an all-star game It's kind of his specialty Just get to hit open threes Well I mean Trey Young open threes as well

Sure I think he speaks for the rest of America When he says I think James Hardin's an amazing talent I don't like watching him play basketball I love basketball I don't like watching him play basketball With the dribbling

I don't know if there's prop bets available for the All-Star game, but take the over on hardened assists, because you know now he has to do it just to show. He's actually led the league in assists. But like, look, he does something and honestly, Tray Young does this as well, where they hold the ball one or two extra dribbles so that they always get the, they never get the hockey assist. They get the pure assist.

And that actually ticks a lot of guys off. So Todd Gurley had a very disappointing 2019 season. He had career lows in rushing yards and carries. His 2018 season obviously tailed off where at the end of the year they were using CJ Anderson fresh off his couch in the Super Bowl instead of Gurley. The NFL Network's Ian Rappaport is reporting

that the Rams want to sit down with Gurley before any decision about his future is made. I'm not sure what that decision would be. He has a lot of money left on his contract and they're about two years away from being able to easily get out of it, be a big cap hit if they cut him. What should the Rams do with Gurley?

They clearly don't want to use him as much as a guy with his contract normally would be used. You're stuck paying him. I mean, look, if somebody wants to take him, trade him, right? Sure. But I don't think anybody's taking him. I just think they got to get on the same page. Like, look, dude, we'll make some calls and try and trade you. But we just don't feel like there's the market for you.

Now, if you want to help us facilitate a trade, we'll find it. If we keep you, if we can't trade you, we need to be on the same page in terms of usage. I just, it's so much better when you're talking, right? Like, no relationship is good if you're not actually speaking to one other. But they, we haven't heard anything, right? They never said, like, oh, he's hurt. They never really explained anything. McVeigh just one time said, right?

But McVeigh just one time said, oh, we didn't use him as much because I'm dumb, which obviously McVeigh is not dumb. So it's just, it's gotten kind of weird. There's something. It's been kind of weird. There's something we don't know. He's got an arthritis. He hurt his knee in college. He came back. Remember, he only missed four games

his rookie year. He probably should have sat most of that season. He didn't. I don't know if they botched the surgery or not. He probably came back. And then a lot of usage early on. And he's got to have an arthritic knee. So he can't give it to you, he can't give you the real Todd Gurley all the time.

He give it to you some of the time. And so like, look, we can't get out of this contract. If you can find a trade partner, we'll move you. If not, we need you to be a good soldier. And, you know, and and do the best you can considering your medical condition. And finally, Doug, the XFL begins tomorrow. Yes, it does.

The L.A. Wildcats against the Houston Roughnecks, 5 Eastern on Fox. Do you know what a roughneck is? Oil worker, right? Yes. Yeah. Yes. You're the second person to ask me that today on the show, so that's why I know. The games are going to be pretty fast and up-tempo.

A lot of the coaches and quarterbacks are kind of spread guys. I think you're going to see high-scoring. In fact, I know I look. It would be like bowl game offenses. Yeah, I looked up some over-anders. passes, yeah. I looked up some over-unders and they're not available to bet on because I think they don't, I don't know that the market has really figured out yet, like how many points they're going

to be. There's also, instead of kicking an extra point, there's one, two, and three-point conversions. I like that too. Which is a lot of fun. Yeah. Because now if you're down-jok jams. You guys remember jock jams when they had a four-point shot, whatever? A little bit like that.

Well, now if you're down 18, technically that's a two-possession game. So that's going to keep you involved a little bit more. Also, a bunch of quarterbacks that we all remember, Cardell Jones, Connor. Cook, Aaron Murray. Doug, are you excited for the XFL tomorrow? Yes. Yeah. Yes. More football? Like, who wouldn't want more football? And, like, as a guy who played minor league basketball, right?

Like, I know the talent on that field, like, you watch you. The talent on that field is going to be so much better than the talent in college football. I don't think people understand that. Yeah. Because they won't, they have to get used to the logos. Like, this is big-time football players who

just looking for another opportunity. I think it's an amazing opportunity. And I like that they're going to make it kind of more fun. So you got Roughnecks, Wildcats, Vipers, Guardians, right? Those are the games of Vipers, DeVe Vipers? Yep. Against the New York Guardians. I like that.

I like that. I wonder if Guardians of the Galaxy could be part of, like, sometimes. Anyway, big fan of the Roughnecks uniforms. And that's John Gullet with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Herd Lie News. All right, let's welcome him in.

He's a former pro bowler in the National Football League. He's T.J. Hooshman Zottie. You'll see him on speak for yourself a little bit later. You always see him on Fox Sports One. Hush, I want to ask you, I think you were on yesterday. We on yesterday with Bucky Brooks when he said, I did you? No, I was not. Okay, let me play for you what he said about Tom Brady being a system quarterback.

Gotcha. He's a system quarterback who has played in a great system that has produced a lot of winning. because that same system helped Matt Castle go 11 and 5 when Tom Brady wasn't available to the knee. Tom Brady at this stage of his career, he needs the system more than ever. Like if we're talking about Michael Jordan, the one thing you can never question about Michael Jordan,

he was a transcendent player. He was transcended in college. He was transcended from the time he stepped into the league. We can never say that Tom Brady was transcended coming into the league. It took Jordan a while to win a championship. Buck, he's wrong. I know he's wrong. He's wrong.

I was trying to be. nice because I like Bucky. Yeah, Bucky's cool. He's just wrong. Yeah, right? Like, Jordan didn't win until they ran the triangle. That's a system. Whereas Brady, when he first got to league, he was more facilitator, right? Then he became the most, they had the most

dynamic offense in the NFL. Then everything was dink and dunk short underneath crossing stuff, you know, Welker. And then they become a power running team and they'd find Gronk on a mismatch, right? Like, those are... But every quarterback is a system quarterback. Good coaching finds what fits you well.

And that's what they... Every quarterback is a system quarterback. Some are more the system, like I am the system, and that's what Brady is. Bucky's wrong. He's been saying this all year. And next year, we're really going to find out because

Brady won't be there. So we'll find out. But he won't be there? No, 0% chance. 0% chance. 0%? Where does he go? There's a few teams.

I'll give you more than a few. Okay. Where does he go? I don't know. There's too many to, decipher and choose from. You said zero percent chance. Zero.

I would go one percent. I would go one percent. Zero percent. Door closed. Door closed. Okay. I could look at the chargers. Okay.

Obviously the chargers in Tennessee that's been talked about. I believe he wants to go to warm weather. So then I have to throw in the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, New Orleans Saints. Those, the Dallas Cowboys, if they can't work anything out with that. But if I had to say which one, would be one of the three between Tampa Bay, San Diego, Tennessee. Okay, it's L.A. now, but I know what you mean with it. Okay, so can I counterpoint to you?

Yeah. He ain't going to Tampa. He ain't going to Tennessee. You don't think so? No. Okay. No, I don't think. Giselle may be Nashville. She ain't going to Tampa, dude.

I'm telling you. Okay. I get it. And, and he wants AB to come with him. Antonio Brown? Yeah. Look, Antonio Brown, nobody's stopping Antonio Brown from being in the NFL more than Antonio Brown.

Yeah, but he respects Brady. If you notice when he got released him and Brady to love. But he doesn't respect anybody else. But he respects Brady enough enough to where, enough to where, and I'll even throw the Raiders in there with Brady as well. But he respects Brady enough to where he won't disappoint him. He doesn't want to disappoint. Yes.

Trust me. Trust me. Okay. I trust your intel and your insight. And you know, I love you as much as any man loves another man that. no relationship with, right? But, bro, this is not a Tom Brady decision, Antonio Brown. This is a Roger Goodell decision. Oh, no, no, granted, all that works itself out and he doesn't do it. He doesn't do anything from, you see he's on his, uh, make nice, uh, parade right now for a day. I'm apologizing.

We're like, it's been about a week. It's been about a week. It's been about a week without, In about a week. Okay. I just, I don't see him going, like the whole Chargers thing. Do you think Shane Steichen, who's their offensive coordinator, he's going to, Brady's been like, yeah, I'm going to work with Shane Steichen, who I don't know from Adam, and with that offensive line. Do I think they have great skill position players?

They do. They have maybe the best skill position players, including the chiefs of any team in the NFL. But I don't see Brady go in there, and L.A. and Vegas make the most sense. Like, he's a megastar. He's about winning. You're not going to Tennessee. You're not going to Tampa?

You've got to look at the teams that they have to play in their division. If you go to the Chargers, you're playing the Chiefs and you're playing the Broncos who has a really good defense. Oh, and you're going to play the Raiders who is up and coming. So you've got to look at the division that he's going to be in. And the division he just left where the path of least resistance in the AFCEs, he's looking at that. Okay, so what do you think about the DAC Prescott contract?

It's going to be complicated. Obviously, it's been complicated. I'm not making him the highest paid quarterback in the league. I'm not paying him more than Russell Wilson. I'm not paying him more than Aaron Rogers. The Jared Golf Carson Wynch Range, I could see that. He's played better than him, but I can argue, Jared Golf took his team to the Super Bowl,

and Dag Prescott had a better roster. But I can see giving them 33, 34 max a year. I'm not going above that. I wouldn't either. Look, I think he's, I think he's fine. I think he's good enough to win with and you can get stability with him. And I just, he can't give him. The problem is that Jerry's going to give in at some level. Because Jerry always gives in, doesn't he? Man, it's been a while. He hasn't given in yet. Hope maybe Stephen is talking some sense into him and saying, listen, this is what it has to be. I think it's, he's talking sense into Stephen. Stephen is like, he's okay. He can't, he doesn't win his big games on his own. He's convincing Steve and let's give him a little more. Yes.

Okay. I think that's the way that that dynamic works. I believe as long as they stay under 35, 34, 35, that that's the smart thing to do. But for some reason in the NFL, it's, oh, the last quarterback that got paid, got 35 million. I have to leapfrog them. Not if you're not better than him. Kyle Shanahan was talking about Jimmy Garapolo yesterday. I think we have that sound.

This is Kyle Shanahan when asked, you know, he was, people have said. said, like, is Jimmy Garoppolo the problem? Is that a fix? He's 28 years old, but that was only his first season in the NFL. Here's Kyle Shanahan talking about his quarterback. I think Jimmy's one of the main reasons we got to the Super Bowl. I think he overcame a lot. This was his first year in his career, going through an entire NFL season. So, I mean, he still doesn't have as many starts and stuff as Baker Mayfield.

So it's, I think he had a hell of the first year, truly playing the position for him to be like that. to not let the pressure get to them and to improve as the year it went, I think it says a ton about Jimmy, and I can't tell you how much I'd love coaching the guy as a player and as a person I share. You buy that. Some of it. I just, I go back to the second quarter.

Like, you don't call a timeout. This is the Super Bowl. And then you say, well, if they stop us and give their quarterback the ball, oh, yeah, you trust their quarterback is going to go down the field against you guys. Against a better defense. But you don't trust your quarterback. back will go down the field against their defense. There's an expression I used. I used it with Colin the other day.

I use it all the time. It's you can't fool players. And whether it's you as a player, but more than anything, all those Niners are sitting there on the sideline. And they're like, what? We're going to. It was the week before. You're killing the Packers. You're killing them. Let him throw. Just, no, you know, just giving 15 pass attempts because he's walking from this game saying, wow, I haven't thrown the ball at all. Like, I'm getting kind of.

sniff. Like you let him throw the ball eight times in the game that you had won. That right there showed Jimmy G. And the rest of the team, we don't, we don't really trust him like we should. And then you back it up with end of the first half. That just reinforces everything that they thought going into the game. That said, man, they got a 10 point lead. Second down, clearly should have checked out of a run. He doesn't. Third down, like I get Chris Jones deflected a couple. but he didn't even see, you know, arguably the best or second best, George Killed, tight end wide open over the middle. He was so sure.

I'll give him a pass on that because a lot of people don't know. Well, a lot of people do know. The quarterback reeds are defined. So if it's a two high or one high look, Kittle probably because of the defense that the chiefs played wasn't even part of the read. He just so happened to pop open. It could have been the coverage dictated.

I'm working this side of the field. I'm not even looking at Kittle. That could have been the case. So I'll give him a pass on that one. All right. What about Emmanuel Sanders? He's open. He just missed him.

He missed the throw. But he didn't, it wasn't like he missed by this much. He missed it. That was a just a bit outside. He missed him bad. And he missed him long, whereas he missed him short. Maybe you get past interference. If you miss him short, this day and age, it's going to be passing.

Even to pass a kid. I'm a receiver. I didn't think that was PI just before halftime. I didn't think that was PI. No, I did not as well. So they got some bad luck. But clearly Garoppolo let that help let that one get away. And then I thought then when they're down four,

they only ran the football once on that drive. And it was the first down. They get 17 yards. Then they stopped running the football. It's like, hey, now they're expecting the past. You should run the football again. The game plan was a little odd considering you let him throw it eight times a week prior. We ran the ball down their throw.

You were running the ball very effectively in the Super Bowl. And in a one possession game, you kind of get away from it. And so a lot of things didn't make sense. The good thing about it is they're young, and hopefully they will learn from this. But Kyle Shanahan, he's going to have to write the ship because it's been twice. You've done it two times.

You play with Carson. Carson Palmer came out and said if he was Burrough, he wouldn't want to play for the Bengals. There have been others that have said that. His dad said, I don't know where people are getting that from. He's just excited to be one of the top picks, but didn't say he absolutely wants to be a Bengal. You've lived that life.

Granted, not recently with the Bengals, but you guys are pretty good. Would you tell Joe Burrow to make them trade that pick? I'm not telling Joe Burrow anything. It's you and your dad's a coach. You grew up in Ohio. You have representation. Y'all come to a conclusion that you think fits you and you live with it. If I'm the Bengals personally, I'm going to trade the pick because I can get more picks

and it will make my team better. If I can get Herbert or Tua, I'm okay with that as well. You're speaking sensibly. You know because you played and lived as a Bengals. The Bengals aren't going to trade the pitch. Correct. The Bengals are going to take him,

and if you don't want to play, right? So that becomes like Joe Burrow. Do you sit? No, no, you don't sit. Joe Burrow didn't play for two years at Ohio State. Three years. He transfers. He graduates and he finally gets a chance to play.

He's confident enough to say, I believe I can turn this thing around. Whether that's true or not, he has that type of confidence. I know the Bengals aren't going to trade the pick, and he'll know ahead of time. If he says we don't want to play there, behind the scenes, they'll say, oh, we're drafting you anyway. Do you have intel on Brady?

Do you got intel on Darren Collison if you sign that the Lakers? I hope he does, man. We need some help, man. How can he sit there next to Jeannie Bus and not do like the commitment thing with the hat or something? It's got to be a wrap. It's got to be a rap. T.J. Hushman's audio, Seamon, speak for yourself, top of the hour.

Coming up next, We got a great best for last. The Oscars are upon us, so we'll do the list of all lists. The best sports movies of all time next in The Hurt. Be sure to catch live editions of the HARD weekdays in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific. If you think football season is over, think again. The all-new XFL kicks off its inaugural season tomorrow as L.A. takes on Houston at 5 Eastern and continues Sunday as Tampa Bay scores off with New York at 2 Eastern.

It's all on Fox and the Fox Sports app. Should be outstanding. XFL. Wildcats for, how is Goldie, Goldie Hauntie Hautee should coach, should be a coach for the LA Wildcats, don't you think?

All right, of course, that's Goldie Hawn was female high school head coach in the movie Wildcats. You guys remember that? Which brings us to the best for last. It's almost the end of the show, but that doesn't mean we're phoning it in.

Nope, we grind to the very last segment. It's time for Best for Last. The Oscars are Sunday. Ford versus Ferrari is nominated for Best Picture. Full disclosure, I have it. I have not seen it yet. So for the best for last, I won't include it.

And I was trying to figure out a racing movie, right? Days of Thunder, maybe, Ricky Bobby. We wanted the 10 favorite, my 10 favorite sports movies of all time. Sports movies of all time. Number 10. Remember the Titans. Sunshine was the quarterback, right? Herman Boone

integrates the 1971 T.C. Williams High School football team. Remember that? Plus it's got Denzel. You got Denzel. You're on the list. It's done.

I got my Denzel in. Denzel at 10. Number nine. The natural. Quick spoiler. If you haven't read the book, The Natural, the ending is quite different.

Never forget this. Good friend of mine. Shout out to my boy, Rafi La Lazarian. AP, English. our senior year, getting ready to turn in our final paper. And I said, what did you write your paper on? He's like, oh, well, the symbolism of the lights exploding and the home run.

I said, hey, dude, you need to go home before third period and rewrite your paper. It's like, why? Well, you see the book. Robert Redford's character actually throws the game because he was gambling on baseball, gets kicked out of baseball. Anyway, the natural is number nine. Number eight. White man can't jump.

you got a Z in your fro Are you the Black Zorro? Woody Harrison, Wesley Snipes, before he went to jail. Wesley didn't pay his taxes, right? Was that off of this movie? Is that off of this movie? Oh man, there's so many great lines, so many great scenes. Plus it's hoop and trash talk. I love it.

Billy Hoyle, who always come out kind of looking like a dork. And then Sidney Dean was Wesley Snipes character. White Man Can't Job. I'll put that number eight. Number seven. A million dollar baby one. Best Picture in 2004. To me, there's a lot to it.

There's a little of the City of Angels to it, right? Like City of Angels, do you remember the movie? Spoiler, Nick Cage comes down from heaven, be with Meg Ryan, but it gives away immortality, and then she dies in a car accident, her car hits her bike. Remember that? A little of that a million-dollar baby,

like she finally makes it and then she becomes paralyzed. Clint Eastwood, this just, look, it's a great movie. One of three sports movies ever to win Best Picture. The others, chariots of fire. And Rocky, neither made my list. Number six. Sports Illustrated calls Bull Durham, the number one sports movie of all time. I concur, right?

Strikeouts are, in fact, fascists. And candlesticks do make a good present. Right? Candlesticks do. There's a lot to this, a lot to it. Breathing out your eyelids, right? Your chakras being blocked. I love Bull Durham.

And it's one of two Kevin Koster, movies to make the list. Number five. We wear caps and sleeves at this level. Remember Lou Brown, the manager of the Indians? This is back when the Indians were terrible. Bob Euker had so many great lines. My favorite, though, was when they call up Lou Brown to ask me if he wants to manage the

big club. I don't know, Charlie. I got a guy on the other line about some white walls. I have to get back to you. Awesome on. Charlie Sheen. I personally quote Major League as much or more than any sports move I've ever seen. Number four.

Sandlot. You love baseball owed to yesterday year. Kids going, plus you had the beast out in left center. There's the beast in the left center. And everyone knows that kid that couldn't catch a pop fly. The Sandlot. You can watch it with your kids. Number three.

Might be the best actual movie of all of them. these to be totally awesome. In terms of dialogue and scene setting, it's based on a true story, Tom Hanks is amazing, amazing. It's got Madonna and Gina Davis, a league of their own. It is so incredibly well written, right?

Ball players! Ball players! Number two. Number two. Who hasn't gone tin cup? Who hasn't tried to get to the green into? I mean, basically, there's a little Phil Mickelson, in Kevin Costner's character.

Got Cheech Marin in it. Renee Russo and Prime Renee Russo. You got the love story. There's a lot to it. Plus, just Don Johnson's the bad guy. Who saw that one coming? Ten Cup and number two. Number one. Hoosiers.

Hoosiers. Right? It's the story of redemption for the head coach for Gene Hackman. Based upon a true story, Milin High School, loosely based upon it. But I mean, like, look, the Indiana Pacers to this day, wear their throwback Hoosier jerseys. Let's run the picket fence, boys. Don't get caught watching the fence dry.

And, of course, Jimmy, Jimmy did the Jordan. Jimmy did the Kobe. Jimmy was not LeBron. Jimmy said, I'll make it. And he did. Hoosiers, my number one sports movie of all time. All right, enjoy the Oscars.

That'd be pretty fun. Remember the Titans, the Natural White Man Can't Jump, million dollar baby, Bull Durham, Major League, Sandlot, League of Their Own, Tin Cup, and Hoosiers. And there was a big list. Ryan Music is your most notable, most notable movie that is not on my list. I think the one that most people are going to have an issue with is Rudy. Rudy? Yeah.

Not Rocky or Raging Bull? Yeah, maybe Rocky. People get pretty passionate about their Rocky movies. But Rudy's usually pretty much up there on greatest sports movies of all time. Goulet, are you going to get on me because I didn't put Caddyshack in there? Like, where we eat? Probably should. No, no, no, no, no.

It's a, it's still, it still makes me laugh. That's an omission. I'm not, I'm not as big on the natural. We talked about that in the meeting. I could see it was about to be a big fight, so I backed off my take because I don't want you to yell at me. No, but the natural really was included because I wanted to include my story about my boy in high school, not knowing that the book's ending was completely different than the movie's ending.

That was really, I just, I kind of want to sell him out and then, you know, show that I'm a friend. I did him a solid at the end of his scholastic career at Dustin High School. You probably could have had some more Will Ferrell overall because he's got Ricky Bobby, semi-pro, blades of glory. Yes. He does a lot of sports movie. There's another figure skating movie. I'm trying to think what it is.

There's another figure skating movie where a guy's a hockey player. Look, slap shot's not on there. I love Slip shot. What was the Bob Sled movie? That was pretty good, too. Cool running. Cool running. Balls of Fury, which is a ping pong movie.

I'm a big ping pong guy. I once watched that four times with Pat Knight, Bob Knight's son. He's the head coach Texas Tech. We're stuck in a snowstorm. Yeah, we watched Balls of Fury like four different times. That's a pretty good one. Dodgeball.

Right? Dodgeball is another. That's a sports movie. Oh, I know. What's the movie with the wrestling movie from the 80s? Oh, man. What is the wrestling movie? Somebody will tweet that. me. There's a lot of great sports movie. Enjoy the Oscars. Colin is enjoying his own time playing

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