The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Snaps -Brian Kelly & LSU stunned vs. Florida State, Playoff expansion, Week 1 takeaways

Episode Date: September 5, 2022

T-Bob Hebert and Aaron Murray discuss LSU's shocking loss vs. Florida State, whether Tiger fans should press the panic button on Brian Kelly, and if College Football Playoff expansion will be good for... the sport. Later, the two share their overall takeaways from a wild week 1 and Aaron lists his top 5 quarterbacks of the weekend featuring Ohio State's CJ Stroud, Florida's Anthony Richardson, Georgia's Stetson Bennett, Oklahoma State's Spencer Sanders, and Florida State's Jordan Travis. #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:07 I hope you're having a wonderful Labor Day. I know I am. I'm not at all. still amazed or heartbroken or angry about what went down in the Superdome last night. No, I don't give a damn. I'm so happy right now to be here talking college football with Aaron Murray. I'm ecstatic. Aaron, how are you feeling? What's up, man?
Starting point is 00:02:32 Hey, I'm just happy you showed up today, T. Bob. I was worried. I was praying for you last night. You and our boy, Hester. Uh, yeah, you're a pros pro. I'll give you that to you. You are a pros pro. You took it on the chin week one.
Starting point is 00:02:47 You got up off the ground. You showed up to work. You're ready to make some magic happen. And I'm going to give you the floor. I'm just going to let you get these demons off your chest. I'm going to sit back and then I'll kind of react. Oh. I don't even know.
Starting point is 00:03:01 I don't even know what I witnessed last night. I mean, it was truly mind-blowing. And it's funny because at the end of the. game when else you was trying to mount that last drive, right? Before they fumble that snap, I literally tweeted to the football gods. I said, football gods, I've been a loyal and true servant for years. I need some shenanigans. And, well, like the old saying goes, right, be careful what you ask for because I was granted, said shenanigans, and it came in the most absurd of ways. First, you muff the pun. It's like, that's not what I was talking about. Then,
Starting point is 00:03:39 they somehow fumble running a power toss on third and one from the one yard line. You get the ballback. Those are the shenanigans I'm talking about. You get so lucky with the Mason Taylor big play there at the end where his knee comes down in bounds with a ref call him out of bounds. So the clock doesn't run. They have to review it. You get a free play. You end up scoring a touchdown.
Starting point is 00:04:00 Oh my God. And then the football gods had one cruel, ironic twist waiting on me. as for the second time in the game, you get a kicked block in the exact same way. And it's unbelievable, man. So it's a bit, I do have a bit of the, what's the old Pacino gambling movie? Maybe it's like two for the money or something with Conahey.
Starting point is 00:04:24 He was like, it's the loser. The loser reminds you that you're alive, right? I have like a little bit of that going on a day. Like the emotion that I felt last night is, it's unreal. I don't know what else elicits. that kind of emotion in me nowadays in terms of the swings going from being on cloud nine elated with dray jikins catches that touchdown to then literally head in hands face down on the ground
Starting point is 00:04:50 about 30 seconds later it was um i mean it was to go ahead and use my uh it was it was truly a w t f moment i mean it was one of the wildest ends that i've ever seen in my entire life. And when we get into the game here, which we're about to do right now, I do want to preface this conversation with this, is that right now, my take on Brian Kelly exists in two different states. Okay, I'm a member of the cult of Kelly. Even when we all know this to do like Netflix documentaries, even when presented with direct evidence, it's impossible to make a cultist think that they are wrong. Okay. I am still long term a believer in Brian Kelly, like for years even.
Starting point is 00:05:40 But even like this season, this team will get markedly better. I am still a believer, but I will objectively judge what you witnessed yesterday. And it was objectively a shit show. It was awful. It was an objectively awful performance. And I hand up, I am awful man clown number one. I'm a clown. Halk my nose.
Starting point is 00:06:01 Call me Bozo. Let me, let me go freak out some kids at a birthday party. because I have never been more wrong about a game than I was about this one. And on every front, right? I thought LSU's D line would be better than Florida State's offensive line by a bigger gap than the opposite would be true. Wrong. Florida State has four sacks, LSU has two. Jane Daniels on the run all night long.
Starting point is 00:06:23 I mean, we were talking about sacks with three-man rushes and big moments. I thought if you forced the game on Jordan Travis, you would auto win. But you did that. You held the max just 3.4 yards per carry, 38 characters. 132 yards no back broke 50 yards and yet what did Travis do he beat your ass 20 to 32 260 yards here two touchdowns another eight carries for 31 on the ground huge third down conversions consistently and then more than anything I thought this Brian Kelly staff represented a huge advantage over Mike Norvell and his staff and again wrong Alex Atkins ran circles around and again
Starting point is 00:07:04 It might be, I think it might have been a Norville play calling whoever is calling the plays for Florida State. But Alex, I can still design the officer. They ran circles around Matt House for the majority of that game. LSU looks sloppy and undisciplined in every single phase of the game, which is the one thing you did not expect from a Kelly team. I mean, the one coach that followed him from Notre Dame was Brian Polly and the special teams were a disaster. Two muffed punts, two blocked kicks, unsportsmanlike conduct on tempo or on kickoff. and took way too long to get into tempo. Ali Gay gets ejected for just an awful, awful targeting cheap shot.
Starting point is 00:07:42 And then, Eric, because I wasn't yet pleased. I wasn't enough of a clown yet. I wasn't wrong enough yet telling everybody on the radio and this show all last week that I placed the biggest bet of my life on LSU to cover. On Sunday, I handed out the literal worst same game parlay possible. Shout out Fandul. and for every i hope nobody took it i said take the lsu money line the over and a kashot booty touchdown three things that just i mean not not just three things that didn't happen but three things
Starting point is 00:08:16 that aggressively did not happen like the like kshod booty's lack of production was a literal one of the main talking points of the game it was awful i am bryan kelly in this game i am awful and despite all of it despite all of it you see still had a chance to win the game and you pissed down your leg. And the worst part is you got a freshman kicker, you got a new snapper, you got a new holder. That's where the problems should have come in. I thought the problems would be in the operation and it was in the protection.
Starting point is 00:08:52 The easiest of football plays. Just step down and get in the way. I mean, bro, I put some pictures in my snap side piece when I get Aaron. taking it that you can maybe put up there from Seth Galina's Twitter from pro football focus. But every single kick, it wasn't just on the two that got blocked, every single kick, the left side let an inside Russia go. It's unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:09:18 So yes, Aaron, I am a clown. I am a clown honkawk. Watch me dance. Be sad. Make balloon animals. I do want to ask you this, though. And I'll get your take on the overall game. But what was your evaluation of Jaden Daniels?
Starting point is 00:09:32 Because at first, people are very much, oh, he was just one tuck and read, but he was under a lot of pressure. But if that's already what you're into and you're under pressure, it makes that worse. But then he finished very strong. What did you think about Jane Daniels' performance? You know where I'm at in the whole quarterback situation? I think right now it should be Garrett's opportunity to go out there and see what he can do. You know, your best players, and they hit it a bajillion times on the broadcast last night.
Starting point is 00:09:57 And I'm kind of the same way. Like, you look at the strength of your offense. and it sucks because the weakness of your offense is the offense line, so you kind of need a guy that's a little bit more mobile, but it's not like Garrett Nussmeyer is a statue. It's not like he's, that's why Miles Brennan was essentially the third quarterback on that roster, because he was.
Starting point is 00:10:13 Miles was a guy that sat in the pocket. He wasn't going to run and might have had the best arm and most accurate, but if he can't get out of there and the offense line can't protect, he's going to be in trouble. Garrett was kind of the guy that's in between, has the better arm than Jaden, not as fast as him, but he's able to get the ball to your receivers more consistently. So he's not going to be a statue.
Starting point is 00:10:35 He can evade the rush and he can throw the ball better. And then it goes to your strength of your offense. What is your strength? It is your receivers. It is Kishan and Malik and Jurei and, you know, Jack Bash and those guys. Can you find a quarterback just to get the ball in their hands consistently? And someone who's athletic enough to, to, to, compensate the the lack of protection from the offense line.
Starting point is 00:11:01 I thought Garrett was that happy medium. I said he could do both. Jaden is really the, he is, he's more of a one read. Let me get out of there. I know it looked good. I know it saved them at times yesterday,
Starting point is 00:11:12 but I think going forward as an offense, if you're going to want to grow, you're going to have to trust the offense line a little bit. Or you're just going to have to have more protection. You're going to keep a tight end in it. You're going to have a back chip out in route. Because if you have those three receivers, I take them and those matchups more often than,
Starting point is 00:11:28 not you just need a quarterback that can get to the ball. So, you know, I applaud Jaden. I thought he got better throughout the game. Obviously, he played extremely well there in the fourth quarter. But going forward for Brian Kelly, I think he needs to reevaluate what this offense is going to look like. And in more crazy news, too, you know, a lot of people are talking about this whole Kishon thing. You know, Kayshan was not interested at all last night, you know, from early on the game to when he had the skinny post that went right off his chest, that he was more looking at the safety and afraid to get hit, you know, one, he had a short cross. And yes, Jaden was late to hit him. Probably should have hit him earlier. Would have had an opportunity to get some yak and who
Starting point is 00:12:05 knows what had had that ball. It just, he had an off night. He did not look like he wanted to be there. So, you know, he took down all of his pictures, I believe on Instagram that had anything to do with you. People are worried. I think he just deleted all of them. He deleted all of his, all of his posts on Instagram. Him and, um, Malik neighbors did as well. I don't know if it's like to try to kind of like coming together yeah yeah i mean i i i to me i mean you know there's nothing more fun in 2022 than um reading through cryptic social media actions i imagine that those kids are catching hell right now on those sites right and so it might be a way of calming down their notifications or kind of getting that you know just maybe um just kind of quieting the noise maybe a little bit uh pinkies in the
Starting point is 00:12:58 Chad says, Kishon looked so checked out mentally. Yeah, man, that's like, to play body language detective. Yeah, man, it was BBL. It was it was bad body language from him as not, you know, it started out fine. He almost caught the touchdown on the nobody drive, barely got broken over the end. But when you were like two quarters in and I think the receivers had one catch, you could see the frustration. I think it's a fourth quarter. Yeah. Yeah. And I handle bad for Malik too because I mean Malik has been everything that you're reading has been having such a great camp had a great spring summer fall camp has been like everyone's excited to see what he can do and then he muffs those two punts and it was good to see him make a couple of catches there
Starting point is 00:13:41 on that last drive to get them to that one score game or one point game before the block field goal but I want to go back to your cultist mentality around Brian Kelly I'm with you I think and I've said it for a long time i think brian kelly is one of the best coaches and one of the premier coaches in college football it's week one and i know we love to overact i know the media loves to overact i know it was sloppy but it was week one with a lot of new faces a lot of new schemes going against maybe perhaps a better fs u s u s u s u s u s you line look pretty strong dude yeah they looked they looked they looked pretty good so you know i'm going to give them some credit i'm going to give jordan travis i'm I'm going to give him some more love later in the show.
Starting point is 00:14:25 But I'm with you. I thought he was trash. I was like, man, this quarterback's not good. How is this guy starting at a at a D1 school like FSU that has such a rich tradition that's had, you know, first round draft pick quarterbacks by far the best I've ever seen him play. And if he plays like that in the ACC and Florida State uses this game to catapult itself into the rest of the year, Florida State's all of a sudden looking to make a giant leap
Starting point is 00:14:49 this year. So let's give them some problems before we just start saying if it or excuse me, LSU is trash. LSU is the worst team in the West. LSU is this. LSU is that. Yes, there are things to work on. But when you look at the talent on that team, when you look at the playmakers they have, when you look at the fact that John Emery should and will be coming back in about two weeks after his suspension,
Starting point is 00:15:10 when you look at there's still some question marks at the quarterback spot. But, you know, if it is Jaden, he got better throughout the game. He let a 99-yard touchdown drive to give your team an opportunity to go in. to the overtime. Like there's a lot of positives I take away from that game too for LSU. So I think they'll be fine. You know, the one thing that that kept showing up to along with the lack of getting the receivers
Starting point is 00:15:32 involved was the third down. You think LSU, I think DBU, I think man to man coverage. I think blanketing receivers and contested balls. How many times that we see third and four to ten and receivers are wide open? They were able to catch it essentially be a five-yard gap
Starting point is 00:15:50 from the defender and we're able to get some yak and make a couple guys miss and get the first down. I'm like, where's the man? Where's the press? Where's DBU that we're used to see in an L. I think to me, that was just as big of a concern as not getting the receivers involved throughout the football game. Well, and I think, I mean, look, I'm going to rewatch the film tonight, right? So I'm going to know a lot more about how I feel about this. I feel like in that regard, it was a lot of times maybe more scheme.
Starting point is 00:16:20 than it was actual coverage. Like I thought when they were tested deep, I thought they held up really well for the most part. I mean, you got got on the flea flicker. I guess Bernard Converse did get on the Alligate targeting as well, which was an awesome one-handed catch. But like, it's funny.
Starting point is 00:16:35 That was an awesome hit. I was like, no, no. That was an awesome target. Yeah, let's bring that. You got jacked up. Yeah. Bringing it back, baby. And it was a big.
Starting point is 00:16:45 That was a big. Yeah. Yes, it would have been. How weird is that? Like, hey, I would give a quick shout out to the rest, actually. I thought not just from this game, but from the entire weekend, they've reworked targeting and I think it's very positive now. There were like three or four times of the weekend where I saw a target that in the past
Starting point is 00:17:04 would have gotten a player kicked out and they reviewed it. We're like, you know what? No, that's not. I can't remember the exact verbiage how they changed it, but they did a good job. Here in the chat, Brian Burgess is just one game. Have I waited before declaring it a big problem? Again, there are things that are. personnel related that are easier to excuse.
Starting point is 00:17:24 Like your offensive line is what it is at this point, right? And they were getting beat up on. And that is hard to overcome as a coach. What is easy to install as a coach is base field goal protection. So like that's where you get into the things that are major red flags and inexcusable. And again, I think that, oh my God, Brum, you're trolled me with the trumpets in the background there. The Bama trumpets. We'll get on that.
Starting point is 00:17:49 But look at this picture right there. This comes from Seth Gleena, Pro Football Focus, Aaron. Every single kick, even the ones that were made that left side was letting an inside rusher go. You always go inside out. Just step down, put your body in the way, get run over. I've been on that wing position. I've been on that wing.
Starting point is 00:18:09 It's unreal. And you know what? If somebody beats you off the edge and they just like Superman and they pull some incredible heroic play, that is. what it is, but this is just consistently poor execution and scheme. And that goes back to coaching. Like that's a discipline issue. That's a coaching issue. Yeah, this is, this should never happen. I mean, special teams early on the season, it's always, it's always questionable. But to have, you know, two muff punts to have the two block field
Starting point is 00:18:40 goals, that you, that's how you lose ball games. I mean, that's, that's it. And in big time games and big time moments. You know, we do it. We always joke about it. I mean, we're talking about a football game that is a bunch of six two to six five anywhere from 220 to 350 pound men. Yet we rely on a five, nine, five, 10, 170-pound kicker to win most of the games. That's just, I mean, you, I think you talked about it a couple weeks. I mean, that's just it's, it's mind blowing to me that we fight and fight and fight and big on big and 300 pounder on three. you're on a slugging slug and slug in and an extra point is is how we're going to win a game an extra point it's kind of turns if you're going to over two or not it's just it's so it's still
Starting point is 00:19:27 it's still funny and fascinating to me the way this this whole game is played but yeah it's simple little things like that like I don't understand you've you've worked on extra points a bajillion times the issue already happened they actually made a change I think they brought in new players to come in they did yeah they made a person out how do you not tell the guys come in and just tell them hey listen the real reason why you're in the game is because the idiot ahead of you didn't step down and we got a block kick i mean okay well if i want to keep this job maybe i should step down and protect the inside no no no no no no no no i'm going to make the same like that's what's frustrating the
Starting point is 00:20:03 coaches it's not that you make a mistake because we all make mistakes and this is yeah you know for for being a parent as well i guess in just everyday life you make a mistake i get it just don't do the same damn thing twice in the same game yeah that's how you piss off coaches. That's like if there any kids out there listening or anybody who's raising kids that are playing sports, that is the golden rule. It's okay to make mistakes, but you got to do your damnedest to avoid making the same one twice. Okay, real quick before we move on to kind of Brian Kelly larger picture here. Aaron, would you have gone for two? No, no, no, no, definitely not. I thought, you know, overall the defense, you know, defense played well, you know, they, they, they came,
Starting point is 00:20:42 they, they really, when they started getting off the field late in the game, they were doing better. Yeah. And I think, you know, LSU's offense in the fourth quarter was performing. They were moving ball down the field. Just had a freaking 99-yard play drive for a touchdown. But the possession before also had a long drive for a touchdown. So all of a sudden, things seem to be clicking for LSU besides obviously the special team's part.
Starting point is 00:21:04 And I 100% kick the field goal, going in the overtime, knowing that Jadim was starting the heat up. You were starting to get some of the receivers involved. Defense was playing a little bit better. I thought 100% the right move to make at that time. So I don't fault in for that. He will be fine. LSU fans out there, LSU will be just fine.
Starting point is 00:21:27 So let's take a deep breath. Let's put the Monday quarterback craziness away. And who do you all got next week? Because I think it's a, I think it's Southern. So there's no chance to be a great game. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But there's no chance to quell the anger. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:21:43 like you now will not get that opportunity until Mississippi State in two weeks. And if you go take your business then and you look like a much improved team, well then good. Like that's that's exactly what. Also, if you don't win that game, I mean, already. You know what you know what else you need to stop doing. OSU needs to stop playing teams that played in week zero last year versus UCLA gets whipped, especially at the line of scrimmage.
Starting point is 00:22:07 They got whooped by UCLA at the line of scrimmage. Fast forward this year versus FSU. FSU plays week zero. they come out there, they dominate the line of scrimmage once again. So my message to the powers that be that do the scheduling for LSU, stop scheduling teams that have an opportunity to work out the kinks in week zero. Make it fair. Schedule a team that's their first game too so they could screw up along the way just like you did.
Starting point is 00:22:33 And it's, it's, it's, wow, because I know Brum gave us the stat a couple weeks ago about how like those teams only win like 40% of times. And look, maybe it's like, uh, You know, maybe you're not always playing a team that you're really equal to. They get to a warm up game when you do do that. The math changes. But I don't know. I keep trying to fight against that idea of it matters, but it obviously has mattered
Starting point is 00:22:52 the last two years from LSU. Pinky says losing from a two-point conversion would have been way less painful in the blocked PAT. Yeah, you're probably right. Look, in terms of Kelly long term. No, no, no. I listen, I want to go back to that. I disagree because what would. No, dude.
Starting point is 00:23:06 It would have been that blocked PAT. No, no, no. But from a pain standpoint. But then what do we have been talking about all today? Yeah, we would have been talking about did Brian Kelly make the right decision. That coach Kelly's an idiot. Coach Kelly's in it. Why do we hire coach Kelly?
Starting point is 00:23:22 That's that's a move that coach O would have done. Why we didn't hire coach O, we fired coach O. Like then all of a sudden you just. Oh, don't worry, Aaron, that bitching's going on. Don't you worry your little head about that. Oh, I know. It's going to. I don't know we were supposed to be disciplined this year.
Starting point is 00:23:38 Yes. I think bitching would have been way worse. had they gone for two and not made it. It's, I mean, look, as far as Brian Kelly long term, like, okay, never doubt a college football fan's ability to just take something and run with it, right? I mean, you saw the fire Brian Kelly tweets, which are just fantastic and wonderful last night because some of them are genuinely sincere and insane. And make no mistake, like, it's a bad day to be an LSU fan for the third year in a row. you have had a hugely disappointing opening game loss after a ton of buildup. And again, this is where I'm the a hole.
Starting point is 00:24:19 Fool me once, full me twice, full me thrice. I'm an asshole. But as far as Kelly goes, well, it feels awful today, like especially when combined with what you saw out of Napier and the gators in the swamp, right? The kind of other, even though else you never interviewed him, the guy that the fans had is kind of the other choice for being the LSU head coach. It feels really, really poor today. And so, but, but that said, I think, again, Brian Kelly's process is proven.
Starting point is 00:24:55 God, this all just sounds so dushy and hollow after what you witnessed yesterday. But, but I do believe this. I'm a cultist, damn it. Brian Kelly's process is proven and multiple, burden stops, multiple different levels. This year will be a growing year. I think you will see significant growth in this year. Like LSU is still going to beat a team that we don't think they're going to, right? Yep.
Starting point is 00:25:16 But it's just hard to sell people on that today. But I am not worried long term. Are you? No, I'm not. I'm not worried long term. I'm with you. I'm drinking that purple Kool-Aid right now. I'm feeling pretty good.
Starting point is 00:25:34 And it just goes to things take time. And everyone, and that's the worst thing that a college football fan wants to hear. That's what a worst thing any fan wants to hear from, you know, like it. It's football, baseball, professional, collegiate, whatever is give it time, give it time, like no, no, no, no. Like, we want to win now. We just paid X amount of money on season tickets. We just paid X amount of money on jerseys.
Starting point is 00:25:58 And we have been invested with this recruit since he was a sophomore. And now he's playing and this on the other night. I get it. And that's what makes collegiate sports so fun because the, the past. from the pans and then the you know the want to win and the desire to like hey man just screw it put me on the field I'll go out there and perform like whatever it takes we're going to give 110% to make sure our team is is is is going to win as a fan's mentality and and when that doesn't hit and they don't win and they lose to a
Starting point is 00:26:28 team like fSU who people are still saying hey that you know how good is fSU it's a cc it's the only SEC team that lost this weekend you're kind of putting that on your shoulders Patience, my friends. Banderbiltz. Brian Kelly, yeah. Brian Kelly is elite. This process, as you alluded to, T-Bob, is elite. The players in Louisiana are elite.
Starting point is 00:26:52 Feed me. You're powered me out. LSU will be competing for SEC West championship and going to Atlanta in the next three years. Oh, whoa. Oh, Aaron. Okay, dude, I'd not expect you to go that far. Now you get me all hot and bothered, dude. Oh, yes, dude.
Starting point is 00:27:10 Yeah, man. I want to close on this because it's been a very egocentric segment here. As the LSU Homer, huge credit to Florida State. Huge credit to Alex Atkins. OC. Huge credit to Mike Norvell, the head coach, obviously. Huge credit to Jordan Travis, somebody I shit on and was so wrong. Huge credit to the D-Line that I completely undervalued the wideouts.
Starting point is 00:27:31 I disrespected the entire program and the entire team. And you know what else here? Huge credit to the fans. That stadium was almost 50-50. I know a bunch of people were in that stadium. It was like 55-45, and they were loud and they were engaged the entire time. So I just,
Starting point is 00:27:49 I just hope for LSU's sake. I do hope for LSU's sake that Jordan Travis is like that dude every game in this show because watch him, watch him go crap the bed like the next few weeks and that just make LSU fans even more upset about wow. Eric, you do realize that. Because that's the best I've seen the play. We've gone to this.
Starting point is 00:28:09 KJ Costello threw for 600 yards in LSU two years ago, and it was benched two games later. I've experienced that firsthand. It's awful. All right, let's move on. That's enough of this LSU crap. Only team without a win in the SEC. Damn.
Starting point is 00:28:26 So there's a good chance here that LSU would not be one of the teams making a 12-team playoff this year. But it looks like a 12-team playoff is in our few. future. The vote came down on Friday. It was from the, um, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the top CFP board management group, right? They came together. They had to unanimously vote to expand the playoff. None of the details, not talking about, are you going to move it up to 23, 4, uh, what happens all the different bowl games, the Rose Bowl, automatic bids, blah, blah, blah, none of the details, just a top down executive decision say, okay, we are moving to a 12-team playoff. That happened on Friday. That is official.
Starting point is 00:29:14 We'll figure out the details over time. But give me your initial reaction. Is this good or bad for the sport of college football? I think it's great for the sport of college football. I think the more teams you give an opportunity to play in the playoffs, the more opportunities for them to grow as a program. And I love when kids stay home. You know, I hate, you know, the, the, the, the, the Bryce Young discussion. I mean, kids from California grew up being a fan, I believe, of UCLA, the Bruins. I'm not going to go to UCLA. If I'm him, I'm not going to go to the PAC 12. Why would I go to the PAC 12 when there is no opportunity for me to really make a championship? And that's at the end of the day, we talk about NIL. We talk about going to the NFL. Like, yeah, that's part of it. But you know, these kids, just like you and I were, they're competitors. We've, our whole lives that strive for greatness. We've also strived to win championships. Peewee, high school, whatever. Like, I want to. I want to win the ring. I want to win that trophy. Like it is in our brains. So if I'm a recruit knowing that, hey, man, if I stay on the West Coast, chances of me making the playoffs based on what I've seen are pretty damn slim. I go to Alabama. I go to Ohio State. I go to Clemson.
Starting point is 00:30:20 I go to Georgia. I go to these other schools. Those chances significantly go up. So, hey, I'm going to go take a chance. I'm going to go over there. Now, son, you're saying, okay, well, well, 12 teams, I can stay in the West Coast. I can go to Oregon. I go to USC. I can go here. I can go there. I don't need to travel across the country. So now of a sudden, you got the mentality of these four and five star guys that are all over the country saying, hey, I don't have to go to this small pocket here in the southeast in order to have success. I can stay over here. So I think long term, the more and more kids see that opportunity to have a chance to be able to be for championships, the more those rosters are going to grow with four and five star talent. That to me right
Starting point is 00:31:00 now, you look at, you look at Alabama, you look at Georgia, you look at Clemson, you look at Ohio I was saying they are just stealing all of it. They're like, come to daddy. Come on. Come to daddy. We'll win championships. I'll put you in the NFL. And it's just you can't overcome it right now.
Starting point is 00:31:15 This will help equal things out in the long term. I love it. And I'm just hoping it starts in 2024 and not 2026. And I know a lot of people are probably pushing for that too. And that's what I'm sort of expecting at this moment. Yeah, I know that some are kind of pouring a little water on the idea they could start in 2024, but remember, if they don't start by 2024, they're leaving a reported, estimated $500 million on the table. And college football is like anything else in life. Money is the
Starting point is 00:31:47 ultimate motivator. I feel bad, Brum, about this playoff conversation because I don't know, like, I don't really understand the counterargument for why you would not want 12 teams. I don't think it devalues the regular season at all. If anything, it makes the regular season more exciting because so many teams actually have a chance to end up making it. It's going to you, you think choosing the fourth playoff team is fascinating debate? Try separating who's going to get in at number 12. It's going to be, it's going to be wonderful.
Starting point is 00:32:18 It's going to be incredible to, uh, to watch. Well, you have a good point, T, Bob. Well, I love your point about the, the games being more excited in the season. I mean, you and I played in the BCS area. You lost one game in the BCS area. You're like, well, our season is over. Like that little carrot dangling out in front of you, it's like, well, that's, that freaking sucks.
Starting point is 00:32:39 I lost one game. We showed up and had one crappy game. And you're telling me now that the chase of me making a championship because of that have gone completely out the window. And it's depressing as a player. Like you wake up that next day saying, I have trained January, February, March, April, May, June, July. camp two days in August to say you lose one freaking game in the SEC and your chances of going to a
Starting point is 00:33:09 championship game in the BCS era essentially go to like almost not like there's still a little bit of a chance but like none 14 playoff added a little bit more and then obviously the SEC benefit from being the SEC but these other conferences like the PAC 12 we're joking about it but it's real like right now after this weekend the PAC 12 saying well damn are we going to get a team in the playoffs it's week one yeah and all of a sudden it's gloom and doom in the pack 12 you had 12 teams it's like okay well we lost but there's still that excitement there's still that motivation to know that hey we can still get one possibly two teams into this thing we just obviously got to start winning but now it's like oh damn our two horses that we put all of our
Starting point is 00:33:49 money on lost week one so yeah and like and like and Utah and Utah is still a good team like Utah was very good. Cam Rising's a bad man. Like that team should have an opportunity to enter a tournament. And also like after watching Florida, Utah, Cincinnati, Arkansas, just some really clean, hard fought great football games. Why would you not want to see those? I get it. Like we talked about Saturday night, you have the Dragons of the Realm, Georgia, Alabama,
Starting point is 00:34:22 maybe Ohio State. Like you have these teams that are going to curb stop everybody. Um, but around that you're going to get some wonderful games. And every now and then, every now and then, right? Kind of errant bow and air, you know, an errant arrow or spear may make its way and like pierce that dragon's eye. And that's always fascinating to watch as well. So I mean, look, dude, I think playoff expansion is, I think it's, I think it's really good.
Starting point is 00:34:47 I think it's obviously good. Like I think it's goodness is inherent and obvious. Aaron, it was one of my favorite part. about this weekend was watching the new crop of quarterbacks. Now, some, some, some old names that we already knew, uh, some names, some old names that we already knew, knew to be good. We're good. Some names that we knew proved me maybe much better than we thought. And then some guys came out of nowhere. Uh, and you being the resident quarterback here on snaps, Aaron Murray, who were your top five quarterbacks in week number one?
Starting point is 00:35:23 All right. Do we want to go from one to the first? I say go to five to one. I like a little five to one. Give me number five on the list. I'm going to go number five. I want to go C.J. Stroud, Ohio State. I mean, I was a little bit shocked by the way the game played itself out.
Starting point is 00:35:40 Big props to Notre Dame. And you want to talk about a team that is going to benefit, obviously, from being a part of a, you know, 12 team playoff. And still, I think their chances are very much alive right now. They came out on fire, especially on the defensive side of the football. Right. Jackson Smith and Gigbug goes out. your top receiver is not there. And I thought what I saw from CJ is a guy that was not afraid to compete,
Starting point is 00:36:04 a guy that wasn't afraid that, hey, my number one receiver won the best playmakers in America is now on the bench. I don't care. Now you're talking about not just the two guys they lost the NFL last year. Now it's the three guys. It was a three-headed monster last year. And obviously that played into the success for CJ. Those three guys are gone.
Starting point is 00:36:22 And Jackson is on the sidelines and is not really having a significant role. he went out there and just battled and battled and battled against a great defense in Notre Dame that all out blitz cover zero accepted the rush retreated through an absolute dime for a touchdown love that absolutely loved that once again not the game that he was expecting but still you go out there against an elite defense like that against a Marcus Freeman led defense which we know is always going to be very very tough to contend against I give him a lot of props without his number one guy still there as one of my favorites to win the Heisman this year. So I applaud him
Starting point is 00:36:56 at that number five spot. Spencer Sanders career game for Oklahoma State. Six total touchdowns, 406 yards. Game got a little bit crazy there. Oh, whoa. Lade on. It wasn't the defense's fault. I missed that. I thought what?
Starting point is 00:37:12 Oh, sorry. No, no, sorry. That was awful. Dude, I can't believe I just interrupted you with something that added nothing to the conversation. I need to keep those thoughts in my internal monologue. No, I miss Spencer Sanders being that good, right? Right. Like, like, I don't know why. I miss the Oklahoma State stat line, but that's impactful because that could be a very good team if Spencer Sanders can show that improvement. Well, if he can just protect the football, I think the biggest, the nugget and there was a lesser opponent. So let's not go crazy here. You know, he should be putting up those video type video game type numbers against who they played.
Starting point is 00:37:44 And, you know, but he did it and he's not, he didn't turn the ball over. I think that is what Oklahoma State fans are hoping this year that, hey, you eliminate the giving. the ball to their team. If he continues to play like that, I'm with you. I think right now, you look at that conference, you look at the Big 12. Oklahoma looked good. Baylor looked good, but it's still pretty wide open. Oklahoma has a chance to be very, very competitive. It's going to rely on him and his arm and his legs and obviously protecting the football. So I think a great start for him to get this season going. I'm going to go number three. And I know this one's going to, you know, pain you a little bit, but Jordan Travis, FSU, I think you and I were in the same boat here,
Starting point is 00:38:22 We thought he was complete crap. I was. You look at last year. You look at FSU. You're like, I don't like this kid. He's not a good throw with the football. So I'm not, I'm still not sure. Was it him or was it LSU's defense?
Starting point is 00:38:36 We'll find out. But for one night, and I'm going to say it was, I'm going to say he was Jordan Travis. For one night, he was on it, man. He was eluding the rush. He was making plays with his legs. Third down the money down. We call third down the money down.
Starting point is 00:38:51 Third down, he was on. absolute fire the entire football game conversion after conversion, keeping their offense on the field. So, man, big, big shout out to him. He looked like a completely different quarterback than what I've seen in the past. And if Florida State's going to get that out of him this year in that conference, which we saw struggle mightily this entire weekend, Florida State's going to have a chance to win a lot of football games this year, which is great for Mike Norvell. Number two, Anthony Richardson. Wow. Maybe, maybe.
Starting point is 00:39:24 And I got some Georgia fans are getting a little testy with me last time. Some Twitter wars back and forth here. Wow. Like you saw it last year? Like you saw the talent. You'd watch the film and you'd see him making plays with his legs,
Starting point is 00:39:39 making plays with his arm. And you know that he was just one hell of a naturally gifted athlete. And obviously there was mistakes here and there. And the Georgia game, a lot of people point to. But he can make incredible plays. You knew it. You knew it. You knew it. Versus Utah, new coaching staff. He's the guy.
Starting point is 00:39:57 How does he handle that pressure? And over and over again, he, he looked just phenomenal. I mean, throwing the football smooth, running the football smooth, third down, fourth down, I don't care, coach, put the ball in my hands. I'm going to be a playmaker. Huge win for the Gators. Huge win for him. If he keeps playing like that and he's going to have an opportunity to prove himself again
Starting point is 00:40:17 this weekend versus Kentucky at home, he is going to continue. to climb into discussions of a Heisman candidate, and he's going to give Florida a chance to win a lot of football games this year if he continues to play like that, which I think he can. My number one, and I'm happy, week one of my top 10 or top five, excuse me, quarterbacks, it feels good to do it, and it feels good that I get to give it to my boy. Number one, Stetson, Stutzen, Bennett. The studs. Well, damn.
Starting point is 00:40:50 I mean, he looked, it looked, you know, like Thursday practice or Friday practice, however you work your week. You know, you kind of get the script ahead of time. You know the defense. You know, you know, what you're going to get. You know where the ball is going to go. It's really scripted to have success. And you want to go out there and essentially complete all your balls. It's an hour long practice.
Starting point is 00:41:10 You're in, you're out. Everyone feels good. Let's not rest the legs for Saturday. That's what it looked like. It looked like Stetson had the playbook for Oregon. he knew where he was going to go with the football. He was dealing it, receivers, running backs, tight ends. I don't care, man, just boom, boom.
Starting point is 00:41:28 I mean, at one point, his only completions really were him having to roll the pocket because of pressure and throw the ball away. By far the best I've ever seen, I know it was overtalked during the offseason, but the fact that he's been awarded that much time to be the starting quarterback to get those reps, you saw, you really had an opportunity to see that come out in that ball game versus Oregon. one of the best cleanest first games I've ever seen in my life against a quality opponent. Stetson, Stutson.
Starting point is 00:41:56 You earned the nickname Stutson after that performance versus Oregon. I mean, he's straight up in the Heisman conversation now. And again, if you're looking at Stetson's numbers, don't even look at the full game because like all Georgia games, the second half doesn't matter. First half, I think he was like 18 to 21 maybe, 254, multiple touchdown, seven different receivers hit. Aaron, can I offer an outside looking in for the top five QBs group?
Starting point is 00:42:24 Because I fell in love with a young teen man over the weekend. And it's the man up in the Appalachians, or at least that's where he was playing this week. Drake May. How about the red shirt freshman from North Carolina, dude? Drake May, 24 of 36, 352 yards, four touchdowns, no picks through the air. and then he tags on 12 carries 76 yards and another touchdown on the ground. We talking five tuds and over 500 total yards and they win 6361. By the way, App State scored 40 points in the fourth quarter and lost a football game.
Starting point is 00:43:05 I don't know. Gene. She's a 40. He may be saying, you know, why did I leave that comfy scene at the SEC? No. Is he is it? I mean, is what they give us the first game? Um, I mean, that's I'll have to wait. I love to wait. I love to tell you. No, no, I get it.
Starting point is 00:43:25 But I'm saying, but like this is this is like exactly what Notre. to. Excuse me, what North Carolina like for years. This is what they've been doing. They're just shit at defense. I mean, I don't, I don't, I don't. I don't take the job. Don't take the job 40. Jean points in the fourth, but they won. Uh, they won. Uh, they won because you know why. Gene Chisick. through and they stuffed that two point conversion how about that aired okay and when it matters most chisick bowed up he is pretty swole actually um all right listen it wasn't we're talking about special team's mistakes the the onside kick let me get it and return it for a touchdown like what are we
Starting point is 00:44:04 doing go down yeah it's over hey but it looked cool dude they they laid out like four people on the play it looks so tight dude yeah that is funny it opened the door all right we're going to do a quick little snips and snaps because we are a sports talk show and who doesn't love a good bad segment okay get it snips like you're out of here cut it out full house shout out joey no yeah okay um little snips and snaps like a poetry reading so snaps are positive snips are bad air murray give me your first snap uh my first snap billy napy are best hire of the off season uh you know you get rid of dan bollum because he doesn't want to you bring in a guy who loves recruiting loves the grind loves on the road loves you know trying to bring in
Starting point is 00:44:51 those four and five star talent that that we know exist in the state of florida in the high school ranks so you feel really good about that like okay he's going to build this roster the question is how long is it going to take to do that how long is it going to take for him to bring in those guys to to then see the success on the on the field so you got one thing knocked out we want a guy that can recruit boom check you feel good about that now it's can we get that same guy to win all of a sudden you go my opinion the best game of the weekend
Starting point is 00:45:20 the game that I was most excited to watch versus Utah and you win it and it was exciting and it was energetic and that stadium was rocking boom boom boom boom boom people love him people are feeling good about him people are feeling good about Florida football right now maybe the best hire of this offseason
Starting point is 00:45:38 heading into this season he was the biggest why the hell did you hire him like when it happened I was like what what who why Brian Kelly's going to LSU This guy's going here And you hire Billy Napier It was it was weird
Starting point is 00:45:54 Because I'm I'm so close to it Because he was at UL That like we knew he was a dog But I did not have him getting a top 10 win In his first ever game Which by the way, that is my first snap It's kind of the Gators as a whole Right Andy Richardson
Starting point is 00:46:09 Billy Napier The Swapier the swap was wild And loud and intense at night If you are a gator fan. You're walking around all fat and cocky today. Okay. My next snap is
Starting point is 00:46:23 college football chaos. And what I love about this is, look, the NFL is a wonderful game, but it's so polished that you don't have these absurd shenanigans, create these wild situations. And this weekend, we got Abstate versus
Starting point is 00:46:39 UNC, 40 points of four still losing game, just absurd. You UTSA, Houston, right? Triple overtime. flipping over to win the game flipping over the goal line you had ls ufSU fs you had ls uffsu fsu fsu you went 11 plays by nine yards and hit missing extra point you had iowa south dakota where iowa in classic fashion outscores the office they're the the the offense with safeties alone it was um it's i love college football chaos er what's your second snap yeah it is it is it keeps you on your toes and it's you just you're glued to the tv like last night's game was so bad that it was good
Starting point is 00:47:14 It was so bad it was good. Yes, I agree. My number two snaps. Sorry, go ahead. My number two snaps. The SEC consecutive years will have two teams in the playoffs. Georgia is the best team in the country. Alabama is the second.
Starting point is 00:47:30 After week one, I know it's early, but as of right now, and I've watched almost every single game, at least every single game that freaking matters. Georgia is the best team in the country. Alabama is number two. Ohio State's three. and I don't think there's anyone close to that right now. Obviously, we'll see what Clemson looks like tonight.
Starting point is 00:47:47 Are they in that conversation? But the talent on the field doesn't lie. The Jimmy's and Joe's at those three schools are just different than anyone else in the country. Those three right now deserve to be in the playoffs. My third snap, grinding. Aaron, I don't know if you saw this, Tim Brando, more like Tim Grindo. Tim Brando got so hyped up during a jump around. he just started grinding on Spencer Tillman and hit it again, bro.
Starting point is 00:48:15 Because he goes for a snake at the end. No, no, he's just feeling passionate, man. He's not caught up in the moment. How did I not see this? He who has not grinded cast a first stone, okay? Sometimes you get pumped and you grind your boys. Snaps all around. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:48:36 That's all right here. That is the biggest. No, that's the snap. No, that's the most. disturbing things i've ever seen in my life oh i can't get we got to he was so excited okay we have to rush to the rest of what's your what's your last snap here uh erin what that was it that was it that was my oh no no no no one more snap uh usc may have a chance to win the pack 12 all the side oh oh or you didn't look too hot utah had some issues on defense kind of what we saw last year from them
Starting point is 00:49:11 listen they dominated rice let's i will pump the breaks here but caleb looked good uh addison with two touchdowns went back and watched the film last night i was like they looked uc uniforms just looked good so i think anyone can put those on it just like really really good so i mean that's what got me a little bit as well but um yeah well they listen they got a big test this weekend at stanford so we'll really get to see what they look like but you know week one all of a sudden you talk about two of the best teams in the pack 12 lose went up the door a little bit for the Trojans. We'll see if they take advantage of it with a big win this weekend.
Starting point is 00:49:46 All right. My first snip is nepotism. And let me be painfully clear. I'm self-aware. I'm a beneficiary of nepotism. If my old man was not Bobby A bear, I would have never gotten the original radio job that I got. I have made a literal career out of nepotism.
Starting point is 00:50:01 You know who else has? Brian Forens. You cannot be the head coach's son and the OC and put together by those. Kirk Frins and Iowa. and put together a 10 punt performance where you have 10, 166 total yards, 57 yards on 36 rushes, 1.6 per. You scored three points. The defense outscores your safety is awful.
Starting point is 00:50:26 First snip, Aaron. First snip is the pack 12. You had two primetime games this weekend. And, you know, one of them we knew they were going to lose, 17 point dogs. You know, dog to the dogs. you're going to lose that game. It's just the way it looked, just an ass-woping. So that's not a good look for the Pact 12 to lose the way they did,
Starting point is 00:50:48 really sends a pretty bad message to that side of the country into the Pact 12. And then Utah losing to a Florida team that, you know, listen, maybe they surprise this year. Maybe they are a nine. Maybe they're a 10-win team. Who knows. But as of right now, to lose to an unranked team, you know, not as bad of a loss. You know, Florida is still good. You're on the road.
Starting point is 00:51:08 I get it. but your top two teams lose week one puts a sour taste of your mouth of can they make the playoffs this year are they going to be left out once again my second snip uh bad day to be named brian dune brian pollian frying kelly brian ference uh just a bad day bad day for bryans all around uh what's your second snip there aaron all right uh my snick snack it's the snickick snick snick snick My snicket snip. My snicket snip is going to be Haynes King, Cade McNamara, both quarterbacks. Oh, yes.
Starting point is 00:51:46 It's time to go. It is. It is. You know how I feel about Max Johnson at A&M. You saw it this weekend. This is an offense that they need to throw the football. They need to be consistent doing that. Haynes King ain't that.
Starting point is 00:52:01 He needs to be dethroned. The crown needs to go to Max and let's move on A&M. So Jimbo, do what's right for your. football team. Cade McNamara, he had his opportunity. He crapped the bed. Look terrible. JJ came in there.
Starting point is 00:52:14 First real opportunity there in the third quarter. Scores a touchdown in two plays. He's going to get his shot, I believe, versus Hawaii this weekend. I believe is their next game. He's going to go off. Hawaii's awful. He's going to look like a monster quarterback, and he's going to get the job going forward. So I expect a couple of shuffles.
Starting point is 00:52:33 Definitely, Michigan, we know that's going to happen. A&M, do the right thing, Jimbo. Uh, last one, snips, the Bama trumpet. I'm snipping this Bama trumpet. They try to do the Mets, Edwin Diaz thing. And it's wrong on so many levels because the whole point why it works for Edwin Diaz, the MLB is it's got that kind of Western gunslinger sort of feel. Like he's like, you know, a lone man walking down the middle of town.
Starting point is 00:53:01 Everybody's watching tumbleweeds everywhere. Bam is out here playing some awful techno remix of it. where it just the the trumpet is completely lost in it it's the bama crowd is all rich old white people at this point because it's too expensive to go to the game so like everybody's sitting on their hands it's just and you're not the Mets you're not the underdog dude you're Alabama snippet I my my last snip yes Scott frost you lose week zero the debacle on special teams He might have been snip last week, but we didn't do the segment, so we didn't snip them this week. Then you go, you're facing the fighting hawks, North Dakota.
Starting point is 00:53:44 The fighting hawks. You're tied. I believe tied at half, only up seven points heading in the fourth. You are tied at half time. Save the best for last. Yeah. They win the game. I get it.
Starting point is 00:53:55 You win the game. But you can't go from losing the way you did in week zero to being tied to the fighting Hawks in week one and feel good about your life. or feel good about your job. This is a team right now. Defensively is just not in a good spot. They're going to be lucky to make a playoff or not playoff. Definitely.
Starting point is 00:54:17 Ha! Yes, they would be. A bowl game. They'll be lucky to make a bowl game. So Scott Frost, I'm sorry, man,
Starting point is 00:54:25 I don't even know if he makes it through the season. So I'm just going to snip him now. Yeah. Well, you're off pace here. Me and the Frosty boys, we're fine. Okay.
Starting point is 00:54:34 We feel good. Okay. We're going to be just fine. Hey, huge thank you to Ryan Brumley, our excellent producers. Huge take you to you, Aaron, everybody who's hanging out with in the chat, watching the show. We're growing this thing, man. If you could like it, subscribe to the YouTube channel, subscribe to the podcast, wherever you get your podcast. That helps us a ton, rate and review it.
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