The Herd with Colin Cowherd - SNAPS - CFB Picks: Alabama-Arkansas, Clemson-NC State, Kentucky-Ole Miss, Oklahoma State-Baylor

Episode Date: September 29, 2022

T-Bob Hebert and Aaron Murray discuss their top 5 games of Week 5 of the college football season including Nick Saban and Alabama taking on KJ Jefferson and Arkansas, Dabo Swinney leading Clemson into NC State, Kentucky and Ole Miss matching up in a battle of undefeated teams, and more! #Volume #ColinCowherd #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Ameri, you're getting ready to call a college football game here in like a few minutes. Not a few minutes, a few hours if I was about to call a college football game. And a few minutes would be in trouble. No, I do apologize. Snaps will be a tad bit shorter today because I got to get my butt to Columbia, South Carolina to call tonight's game. South Carolina versus South Carolina State got changed up because of the weather, the hurricane. Once again, our listeners down in Florida.

I hope everyone is staying safe and good down there. But yeah, a little bit of mix-up. Game was supposed to be on Saturday, moved it to tonight. So in and out of snaps. And if you're bored tonight and you want to watch the NFL, tune in SEC Network and check your boy out. Yeah, man, so check out SEC Network tonight. We'll definitely do that, be bouncing back and forth. I got a lot, I feel like watching night.

I mean, I still got to catch up on Andor. This NFL game seems great. And I do want to see South Carolina and Rattler Company and how they're going to look. Yeah, so check it out. So on today's show, we do this every Thursday. Okay, Friday we give you our best bet. Snaps up to dark as on Saturday.

On Thursdays, we break down the top five games of the college football weekend. And Aaron, we got some bangers coming up this weekend. as evidenced by the fact that the number five game on this list. First of, I want to give a real quick shout out to Kansas, Iowa State. Iowa State visiting Kansas. That's not on the list, but I am very intrigued today. Vegas still trailing Kansas.

Still no respect for the Jayhawks as Iowa State had to get in their butts kicked by Baylor and her as the favorite. So whatever. I'm very interested in that game. But it ain't as good as number five, Texas A&M at Mississippi State. Aaron, this is a, this is a tough one. As we'll get into, what are your kind of surface level thoughts when it comes to the Bulldogs and the Aggies? Oh, well, my first thought is, does Aggies, do they have a receivers?

I mean, it's Evan Stewart. It's going to be the Evan Stewart show there. And it goes back to the bigger picture or the bigger question of, you know, when is Jimbo going to evolve? You can't line up and just play static football. Like, you know, back in 2000, was it, 10, 11, we had AJ Green. I could just line up AJ Green three by one AJ you're going to play the X two by two you're going to play the Z and it didn't matter like we didn't have to motion and shift and move AJ around he was just better and I could just go one-on-one with him all day long and he's going to go out there and make plays I'm sorry A&M but it was a too you want to talk about breaking in as a fresh one was a damn good feeling but A&M you don't have that guy like you don't have that talent right now which is still a little bit mind-boggling to me that that he's recruited so well yet we haven't seen that trickle to the the receivers there for the Aggies. So if you don't have that kind of talent, Anias is out for the season.

You need to evolve. Motion, shift, condensed sets, mixing it up with guys in different places within the formation. I think he's going to have to be a lot more creative, but you kind of are who you are. You know, we say like it's, you can't really teach an old dog new tricks. And it doesn't seem like Jimbo wants to learn any new tricks. And that's a problem right now. So this offense will continue to be stagnant.

I like Mississippi State on the defensive side of the football. I think their run defense, their big, thick and physical up front should be able to slow down A chain. So I worry about the Aggie scoring, but then flip it over, man. A&M's got a great defense. That 3-2-6, six very talented back-end defenders against this air raid offense, I think matches up well for A&M and being able to slow down. You know, Will Rogers and I would say some really talented receivers, probably the most talented receiving corps that we've seen at Mississippi State ever. So it's going to be a defensive struggle.

I think it's going to be a low scoring game. Make sure you check out tomorrow's segment. Maybe a little over underthought on where you put where you should put your money. I love that as a tease because you're like, I think it's going to be a low scoring game. Listen to tomorrow here. But I made. I made sure. You're going to zig where they ag, eat.

Look, man. A, the public. one of the, A&M's got to be one of the weirdest teams on the planet, right? Back to back, ranked wins. And yet they are still underdogs to Mississippi State. Now, again, they're going to Starkville. Starkville's a weird place to play cowbells and all of that.

But it's weird. So back to back, back to back rank wins. And yet Vegas doesn't like him. The S&P Plus doesn't like him either. Mississippi State currently 17 in Connolly's rankings, A&M 22. And it's, it's, it also bears this year's game some shocking similarities to last year's game. Where Mississippi State was unranked, they were two and two, having lost two SEC games in a row, actually. A&M on the other hand was three and one.

They were ranked 15. Well, state ends up winning that game 26, 22. How they won that game there, Zach Kelzata's stats for A&M last year feel like exactly like what you can maybe expect that of Max Johnson, maybe a little bit better. If they were 135 yards touchdown. But Will Rogers last year went 46 of 59 for 408 and three scores. I do not believe the Mississippi State will be able to run the ball on A&M. Do you think Will Rogers can put up those type of numbers again? No.

And once again, with DJ Durkin there at DC for A&M, it's a little bit different when it comes to the scheme and what they're running. Once again, it's more DBs. And verse this offense, what do you want? You want more ds. You want more skill in the field. And they're going to try to essentially keep everything in front. You're going to see a lot of two cloud coverage or double cloud. Two high safeties.

It almost turns into like two Tampa. You'll get a middle of the field safety as well. And Will Rogers does a great job. Like, my man's not afraid to dink and dunk. And then once a defense kind of comes up and some man, he'll take a shot. But it's going to be a very much, once again, dink, dunk, get the first down, get five yards, you know, get it to the back, which. Goes back to what we've we've kind of are still trying to figure out does that speed up the game?

Does it slow the game? Whatever. I think it's going to shorten the game up less possessions for everyone. So less possessions mean less points. Going back to make sure you tune in tomorrow for our over under to figure it out what exactly I'm going to pick. But I do think he'll be able to put up some good stats. You know, the thing that worries me this year of Mississippi State, you know, you lose a top tackle to the NFL draft last year. And it's evident right now.

Like the tackles they have at the moment have, you know, we're exposed versus LSU. We're a little bit exposed last week at times versus a lesser opponent. And I think they can get exposed again this week first versus A&M. That's my biggest worry. Like receivers quarterback, great. But if you can't protect them, it doesn't really matter. Okay.

So I think here's how it would sum up. The thing that I am worried about if I'm Mississippi State Bank, because I actually like a lot about state here. The only thing I'm worried about is I still don't love the Max Johnson angle. The dude is a gamer. As you said earlier this week, he's not good enough to fix the A&M offense, but he does make it better.

And it's not they're going to score a lot of points, but he does have a knack for doing, for finding the plays that need to be made in order to win the game. And look, if A&M's defense is going to be that good, and I think they are, right? They've been a, I still can't fully figure out what we're wrong in that have state game.

I think this is a very, good defense. They have to try to do the same thing that LSU did against Rogers. Rogers threw for 455 touchdowns against Memphis, 313, 4 touchdowns against Arizona, 409, 6 touchdowns against Bowling Green, just 211 Tud against LSU. One key stat here, Aaron. Mississippi State leads the SEC, 33 minutes time of possession per game, A&M dead last at 24 minutes. So it still feel like a game, I believe, where Mississippi State feels like it's in control the whole time. But A&M and Max Johnson, watch whatever the make a place the end. Who wins the game?

No spread. Who wins the game? Make sure you turn in tomorrow for spreads. Who wins the game? I think Mississippi State wins the game. I still am a believer that Mississippi State has a chance to be the second best team. Even losing LSU on the road a couple weeks ago, so has a chance to be that second best team in the West. So I like them at home.

Yeah, I think, yes, I think they are the more complete team. And they have a much, much better quarterback situation. Next up on this list, Alabama at Arkansas. And you mean, how does this get on here? Well, first of it was a fantastic game last year. When I look at this game, look, I think the Bama wins. I think, though, to me, the biggest thing about this game is how they win. Like, after the Texas game, Texas Alabama, I'm talking about, of course.

And then Texas Tech's subsequent win last week over Texas. Alabama needs a statement here. Like I would describe this game as a fact-finding mission on the tide. How good is Alabama's O-line? It was their biggest weakness last year. Arkansas leads the nation in sacks. They looked vulnerable against Texas. Are Bama's weapons as bad as we maybe think they are?

This Arkansas past defense is awful. Bryce Young should be able to put up a lot of numbers. And then the final question, Aaron, is, Alabama's defense as good as the numbers would have you believe. I mean, you look right now, brother, they're giving up 7.3 points per game, 201 yards per game. But last year, KJ. Jefferson put it on him. Those are 42, 35 game.

Now, Trailer Barts went off and he's gone. So like, to me, look, as far as Arkansas goes, I think this is a land you have game. They're expecting to lose whatever. They sub Mississippi State Auburn, Elshu, Ole Miss, Missouri, those are the big games that they need to win. For Alabama, I think we're going to get a lot of questions answered about where their ceiling may actually be this year. Yeah, I like Arkansas to keep this thing closer.

I think this is a moment for KJ Jefferson to start working his way into possibly the first round. I think he has every tool you want. He's big, physical. Let's not forget, man, if he doesn't fumble the ball at the three-yard line and tries to be Superman last week, they may run away with that game. They're up 14-0-0-1-0-1-1-V-A-N-M.

Fumble, return back for a touchdown. I think maybe I might have been mixed up the scores there, but whatever. Could have been a lot different game. I think they win if they're able to punch it there and kind of take the momentum. The thing turned around on them, A&M ends up winning.

So this is a good Arkansas team. Not a lot of weaknesses besides that secondary. Their ability to run the ball with Rocket and landers and hasslewood on the outside, they're going to be able to take some shots. And let's not forget, what did Texas do versus Alabama? They took shots down the field. They took advantage of some one-on-one opportunities.

And KJ is a great throw of the ball down the field, whether it's post routes or go-ball. So you're going to see some shots because Alabama's not going to just allow him to run the ball into a light box. And I think they can take advantage of that. And then they're going to be able to get after Bryce. They have two of the best blitzing linebackers in all of America. And the great stat, once again for T-Bob, 20 sacks this year for Arkansas. They're going to disrupt Bryce over and over again, or at least that's going to be the plan. Don't allow those emerging, I'll say emerging receivers for Alabama, get going.

Make Bryce get the ball of his hands now. And I think they can keep it close. I think Alabama wins the game. They're the better team. They got Bryce, and he's just been absolutely phenomenal this season. But I think KJ and those linebackers on defense can keep this thing close, especially at home. And they're doing a, I believe, a redout. you get some red pom-poms there in Arkansas

they're going to have some juice they're going to have some juice interesting staff from Kirby's visor in the chat here and Bryce Young's last five regular season road games Bama's only won by an average of three points that is a bit odd that that's kind of where that does kind of feed into my point though about like this is a fact-finding mission

on Alabama and as far as Arkansas go just who is going to make up that Trayland Burke's hole this year I know they've been figuring out all year, but last year against the tide, eight catches, 180, two touchdowns. Okay, a lot of production to try to make up for. Let's start the NFL week off right with a no sweat bet, same game parlay every Thursday from Fandul. America's number one sportsbook.

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Number three on our top five games of the week, a Big 12 battle. We talked about how fun the Big 12 is this year. There's no, you know, no dragon, no heavyweight team, but it doesn't feel like there's really a bad team either. And this might be the two best teams, potentially. We're talking about Oklahoma State at Baylor, Air Murray, where are you, where are you, thoughts that? Are you going to be sick him or is Oklahoma State guns up or is that Texas tech? I think that's Texas tech, but we'll see if someone is in the chat. It's got a cowboy mask. You get the point. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I like, I like Baylor in this game.

Oklahoma State just, they haven't played anyone yet. And I know everyone's, you know, really high on Spencer Sanders right now. These are the type of games where all of a sudden you see the turnover issue start to peek its head around. And that's something that's been, you know, really the issue of this offense in years past. And that's been his. biggest issue is is turning the ball over so you know we know baler's going to be tremendous on defense they're at home Oklahoma state is is you know hasn't been challenged this year so it's not like they've been kind of put to the the stress level then they get a buy so I don't know if they're ready for this type of game yet where we know Baylor's got on the road they've played BYU you they

lost a close game there 26 to 20 they've been stressed they've been in tight situations and I think that's going to show itself this weekend. If Baylor comes out knocking, if, you say Spencer Sanders throws a pick earlier, a fumble, or whatever it is, turns it over,

how do they respond? Because they've yet to face adversity this season. So I like Baylor. I like what they're doing. I like Blake Shapen at quarterback, coming off a three touchdown game versus Iowa State last weekend. So give me Dem bears at home. I think they get a big win.

But I'm with you, man. The Big 12 is still a crapshire. I still think Oklahoma State's a great football. football team. Regardless of what happens this weekend, they'll still be in contention, just like everyone else besides West Virginia in that conference. I mean, this is where it gets very odd, because I believe yesterday, I think I answered that. I think that Oklahoma State's the best team of the Big 12, but I don't know that I get picked them to win this game. And granted, that that best team was kind of, it was a bit like

maybe past the first serious test, as you point out, that's what this is. And even with the BYU loss, which hurt. Baylor looked so fantastic on the road in Ames against Matt Campbell and the Cyclones last week, that it is very hard for me to get away. It's like this game represents the Big 12 cannibalization that we were talking about. Even though Baylor has lost to BYU, I think they win this game. Look, the bottom line for me, Aaron, this becomes a question of, will the strength on strength or weakness on weakness battle reigns supreme. And strength-fe-strength, I have Spencer Sanders and that Baylor defense, okay? The two best parts about each team, who's going to come out on top there on the weakness-first-weekness,

and these are no relative terms. I have Blake Schapen against Oklahoma State. I don't mean that against Oklahoma State's defense. And don't mean that disrespectfully because I really like what Shapen's been able to do under Grimes this year. And I really like Jeff Grimes as an O.C. I think that Oklahoma State's defense. I mean, they were so great last year. I think they're still pretty good.

I think I'm just having a really hard time shaking the Derek Mason performance against Western Michigan. So in a close one, they're at home. Sick them. I end up leaning the Bears here. I think Baylor gets it done. I still like a good state, but I think Baylor gets it done. Number two on this list, Aaron. Now, this game's crazy.

Because to me, this game may answer one of the other questions we asked yesterday. The winner of this next game may be the actual fourth best team in the country. And I'm talking about Clemson or NC State. In fact, if Clemson wins this game convincingly, like if they actually make a statement here, I would almost for sure grant them that title of fourth best in the country. How do you feel about the wolf pack taking on the tigers? I think this is, I think this is the Tigers moment to continue to build some momentum. Like I'm, I'm cautiously sipping on the DJU Kool-Aid right now, just very cautiously,

because I said it early in the week, like I want to see him do it two or three times in a row to really feel confident. Like, yes, DJU is a legitimate quarterback. Yes, this offense is for real, or at least good enough to be a compliment to what we know there are on defense. And you look at the status of this year for him, 10 touchdowns, one interstores. They're at home. The weapons on the outside are looking better.

The run game's looking better for Clemson. And I just had a feeling last week. I said it that going against that Wake Forest offense, which is an absolute pain they asked to go against, they were going to struggle. It essentially eliminated the front seven for that talented front seven there for the tiger. So I think they're going to be essentially their pride was kind of poked out a little bit last week because this was a team that was saying, hey, we're the top defense in the country.

country, ain't no one going to score on us, and then you get 40 points put up against, you know, Wake Forest put up against you. So I think you're going to see a defense that's pissed off, ready to go, ready to show us why they are so highly touted heading into the season. And I do believe DJU is going to continue moving in the right direction because I think he is talented. I think this is going to be the game that we're like, okay, last week wasn't just a fluke. This kid does have it. So I like Clemson to make a major statement win against NC State this weekend. You know, I got two major questions for this game,

like you're talking about, the Ewan Galae. This NC State defense, like as good as last week was, and Wake Forest Defense has some nice numbers around it. But I mean, no, no, I mean, they're not good. They're not good. I don't want to misspeak here, right? This NC State defense is damn good. They return everybody from last year.

They're number one in the conference right now against FBS opponents giving up under 15 points a game, right? So doing it against Wake, one thing, if DJU does it against this, yeah, okay, then I feel you, man. Then all of a sudden, Clemson leaps back into, okay, yes, they are Clemson once again. But the one thing that's holding them back from being Clemson right now, isn't even actually as much DJU.

It's that past defense. Clemson's past defense is shockingly bad right now, like both in terms of raw stats and if you look at, like analytics like success rate and all that. No, like they are very bad. And what's wild to me is if you had told me this preseason, I would have said, okay, NC State wins for sure. Like Devin Leary last year was incredible.

35 touchdowns to just five picks, 286 yards a game. He was great. Devin Leary has not built off of that this year, though. And Aaron, I don't know if you have any insight there, but it's almost, it's over 50 yards less. per game this year. Touchdown to pick ratios 9 to 2. So that's still very good,

maybe slightly worse than last year. But it's not even the raw numbers. When I have watched Devin Leary play this year, he just hasn't felt threatening at all. There hasn't felt like there's been a lot of rhythm. It's been very kind of clunky versus what I expect. He's like, have you seen anything as to why he stepped back? And do you think he could take advantage of this Clemson defense?

Listen, I don't think there's anything that really glars out to me of why he stepped back. But I will say this. Like, I do think that there's talent on that secondary for Clemson. And it goes back, once again, we're judging this Clemson defense just based on last week and what we solved versus Wake Forest. And I think we need a more focus on how good Wake Force was, especially the passing attack. And I said that a couple of days ago, like, you know, the way we're able to essentially hold off that zone read or RPO, I guess you'd call it, the run pass option. with Sam Hartman. I mean, you're forcing those DBs essentially on an island.

There's a lot of cover for those safeties were coming up and run support. And Sam was holding it for three, four, five seconds. And that's a long time. That's a long time for a DB to be essentially in man-to-man coverage. So that is, I'm not doubting Clemson's defense. I will more focus on just how tough and unique of a challenge it is to essentially face Wake Forest and on the road too. So I think being at home, I think the crowd is, I think Clemson fans right now, after watching

DJU perform last week, have a sudden new belief that, yeah, we do belong inside the top four. Yes, we are a playoff team. I think they're going to be there. They're going to be loud. They're going to be energetic. They're going to be ready to go. And obviously, we know crowd noise in their entire stadium is, or Death Valley, 2.0, whatever, which are one's Death Valley.

I don't, whatever. is going to assist this defense perform at a higher level. So I'll focus more on that because I do think they're talented on the back end. Maybe I'm still feeling burned by the East Carolina game, but I feel like Clemson wins this game. We'll see. Number one on the list, Air Murray, an SEC battle. A couple of top 15 teams going toe to toe as the Kentucky Wildcats travel.

on the road to take on the Ole Miss Rebel Black Bears. And let's be clear about this, Aaron. This is a line in the sand game. Not just for the SEC, East versus West. Not just for the fan bases of both teams. Not just for the SEC.

This is a line in the sand game for humanity itself. This is the man versus machine bowl. Right now, the machines level level. miss. The AP poll, not as much. The complete opposite is true with Kentucky, where the AP pull us human beings, we say, that's a damn good team. And the computers tell us, I don't know, dude, I don't think it's as good as you think. And so when I look at this game, we've already lost the battle in the movie Terminator, okay? We lost the battle when it comes to chess. He can no longer beat the machines. We've lost the battle when it came to financial markets. As human beings,

We desperately need this win, okay? Because soon our entire world is going to be dominated by Papa Bezos AI robots controlling every single aspect of our lives. And this right here, this Saturday, is where us human beings make our stand. So understand this. If you stand with Ole Miss, if you cheer for the rebels here, you might as well implant a chip in your ass because you've gone full cyborg. Whereas if you stand with Stoops and Kentucky, you are standing side by side, Morpheus and Neo and everybody else who would rise up against machine oppression, okay? So I'm rolling with the Wildcats, dude.

I don't buy Ole Miss. Rodriguez back, poorest Ole Miss run defense. Kentucky's going to run over him. Let's go cats. I love it. I'm with you, man. I think you look at last week, Ole Miss struggled mightily versus Tulsa. uh, 260 yards rushing given up. That, that should not happen. And I know Kentucky has not been

great against the run this year, but you said it, Chris Rodriguez is back. I think that's going to ignite this offense and get them excited, knowing that one of the premier backs in the SEC is ready to go. He's fresh. I just hope he doesn't try to do too much. That's when turnover start to happen. But, you know, you got a dynamic backfill with him and will rod, or excuse me, uh, will Levis, who we know is an extremely capable and willing runner as well. But I am buying Ole Miss a little bit. I do think this is a good Ole Miss team. I love their offense. They get everything you want from, you know, receivers to Jackson Dart to I think the two best running back tandem or the best running back tandem in the SEC. Trigg at tight end, a talented

old line. Like this is a great offense and they're going to get better and better the more Jackson Dark gets comfortable in the system. I just worry about the defense. It just scares me how soft they were last week. And you know what does Stoops want to do? He wants to be a bull. He wants to be a He wants to dominate the line of scrimmage on both sides of the football. I think they're going to try and pose their will against this defense this week. And I think they're going to be able to. I really do. I think they're going to be able to have a hell of a game running the football,

eating up the clock, taking the ball out of Ole Miss's hands on the other side. I think it's close. I think it's like a six and a half point spread. I think it may or may not be on tomorrow's show. So tune in. I'll do a little teaser for that one. But I guess go Kentucky. guess I am kind of giving it away there.

I mean, look, I think the producer in Brum would tell us that like, I think if Brum had his way, uh, we would talk like whatever Alabama or Texas topic it is, both at the beginning of the show and at the end of the show, right? So I don't think repeating really matters. I wouldn't be surprised whoever wins this game. So I, I'll say this. Like I wouldn't be, I think this is going to be the best one of the best games of the weekend. Like I would not be shocked at the Kentucky one.

I want to be shocked if I'll miss won. Like I think both are now we're cooking. Top five teams in the SEC. But if you put my foot to the fire, let's go stoops. That is the ultimate cover all your bases right there. Look, I want to be a surprise. I could see. I could form an argument where either team could win this game.

That's all I'm saying. I see the path for both to win. So we're going to have to see. We have to have the game be played. We're going to learn. We're going to learn. We're going to learn tomorrow. Our two days from now.

In all seriousness, it's a great matchup. It is a coin flip, but I think Kentucky wins. I really do. And if Ole Miss wins, then I will be prepared to eat crow. And obviously, they're hype trained. Like, Old Miss right now is basically, isn't there a term in physics called, like, potential energy? And it's kind of like the stored energy of an object just has to be released. That is Ole Miss.

They've looked so good against lesser opponents that they feel like they're hype train has all this potential energy. And if they are due win at home Saturday against Kentucky, well then, I mean, the race is on. And all of a sudden, Lane Kiffin's a talk of the town, Ole Miss is in the top 10. And they are the second best team in the SEC West, maybe third best team in the SEC. We go see. And I can't wait. And we love college football and snaps.

That's why we're so excited. We love it so much that we have to go because Aaron Murray has to go call a college football game for ESPN. on the SEC network. So check him out tonight, y'all. South Carolina, South Carolina State. Aaron loves the Cox. There's nowhere that he would rather be than in that stadium. So, Aaron, you, you,

hell yes, and you have a great time. Night, send us a video of Sandstorm if you can. I will, I will. And everyone, make sure you tune in tomorrow. I will continue to make you money. So come on. Yes, best bets tomorrow. snaps after dark Saturday night. Hopefully

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