The Herd with Colin Cowherd - SNAPS - Paul Chryst out at Wisconsin, Alabama #1 over Georgia, how big are Oklahoma's problems?

Episode Date: October 3, 2022

T-Bob Hebert and Aaron Murray discuss Paul Chryst's firing from Wisconsin and possible replacements, whether Nick Saban and Alabama should have overtaken Kirby Smart and Georgia as the number one team in the country, how big Oklahoma's problems are after two straight losses and much more from a wild Week 5 of the college football season! #Volume #ColinCowherd #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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spooky season is officially here. And another college football weekend is in the books. And what a chaotic weekend it was. We're going to get to all of it today. Okay. We're going to talk Bama, Georgia. We're going to talk all the volatility in the poll. We're going to talk about what the hell happened in Wisconsin.

Oklahoma snips and snaps. It's going to be a very fun show. Aaron Murray, what's up, dude? Man, just excited to get back with you on Monday. It's a fun weekend, a lot of crazy games. A lot of real crap quarterback play. We harp on the quarterbacks across this country and how good they are. It was tough for me.

I was doing my top five quarterbacks earlier today. We will release that at some point here today or tomorrow. But it was tough sledding for quarterbacks across the country. you know, defenses are catching up. Defenses are getting used to the speed of play, the tempo offenses, the spread you out. And we're seeing a somewhat regression of offense from what we saw two years ago or even last year, which is good. You know, like I don't personally want to turn into every single game and it'd be a track meet, like 40, 50, 60 points. Like, I don't like that.

Like, I like games that are in the, you know, high 20s, low 30s, super competitive, four quarters of really good football. And I think we're seeing a lot more of that this year. and I think a little bit has to do with just quarterbacks not playing as well as we've seen in the past couple seasons. Yeah, you definitely, I feel like as we'll get to when you kind of look at the polls overall, yeah, a lot of teams that may have looked very strong early on, got kind of exposed a bit this weekend as, because really it's that time of year as well, Aaron. I mean, this is when conference play starts. So this is when you're going to play the best teams in your schedule. And this one, you're going to play the teams that you are used to playing as well, right?

It's almost like an NFL divisional matchup where the prep for something like that is different than if, I don't know, you're an NFC South team playing somebody from like the AFC East. That's a little more one-off. Now you're getting into, okay, last year, what we do without those guys, what are to do against them this season. It is also Tennessee Week for the LSU fans. Shout out, very excited for the Tigers here, Aaron. Yeah, I got, well, we'll get into it. maybe later in the week but i've got it's also a higher week for my dog and this is teaparte exciting news

this will be my first opportunity to catch a georgia game at home in athens the the greatest campus in all of america since 2017 and back into i want to hear a funny story in 2017 i was starting out as my first year doing tv radio all that and my dumb ass self they're playing in Mississippi State. Mississippi State was with Nick Fitzgerald. They're playing well. And the same thing. I was like my actual first weekend going to a Georgia game in Athens as a fan,

like maybe ever, maybe it's like the time I got recruited. So of course the week before or that week, I get on radio in Atlanta and I say, Georgia's probably going to lose this game. I think Mississippi State wins the game. Jake from was a freshman. They'd just beat Notre Dame,

but the offense was okay. And Mississippi State and Dan Moore were rolling a little bit. So I'd go to the, the game not thinking anything about it and i'm literally like getting booed out of the stands like fans are saying screw you murray f you for f you for picking miss to me state and then after the game like Sharon and i just started dating so after the game we're walking back to hotel and people are like you're effing idiot i can't believe you do that ha ha you're an idiot and like i was getting sick of it like honestly i was kind of getting fed up i had a couple too many drinks and this one dude

said something that kind of crossed the line and i by my brother and dad like literally had to hold me back like i'm not a fighter like i reached my limits of like like i bled for you all for four years i make one pick and like yeah you're taking my my georgia card away from me like crazy like i were you though both and luckily my dad and brother like kind of pulled me back a little bit got a little ugly were you uh were you in the media at the time or no that was my first year in the media so oh okay okay okay okay yeah so you learned very early on for multiple reasons one because they're not going to win but two because i want to actually enjoy my weekend in athens so i will say it right now snaps on monday go dogs dogs will take care of

business this weekend see there you go brum very early on erin murray learned the power of the take like the one ring it can be deceptive in the depths to which it can go um let's talk Wisconsin as I don't know that many people saw this coming. I like dog 1968 and the chat says I like trucks and yes indeed Auburn sucks although LSU only threw for five second half passers. It's a weird game. We get to that later in the week. Let's talk Wisconsin though as some unexpected news coming out of Madison. Maybe not fully unexpected but it's a bit odd when we'll look at the numbers here but Paul Chris officially out in Wisconsin. Jim Leonard is going to be the interim coach. He's a defensive coordinator right there.

And I guess, Aaron, the question would be this. Did Wisconsin make the right decision here? And I think while I say that is, look, you're talking about a man and Chris, you had a 67 and 26 record at Wisconsin. That is a pretty

unbelievable win percent of his air. He won 10 games, four of his first five years, three big 10 championship appearances. He won a con bowl. He won an orange ball. He lost in a Rose Bowl. Like there was a lot of success in this era of Wisconsin football and even nine and four a year ago. And yet he finds himself out just five weeks into the year. I'll get this snip out of the way right now.

I'm sniffing this trend of firing coaches this early in the season. I don't get it. I mean, it is just you're literally just telling your team. You're quitting on your team. And I don't know why or when this whole trend started. And I guess you make the excuse or the reasoning of, hey, we want to, you know, get the search going. We want to be first in line to make sure that when the next group of coaches come in, that we're ready to go. Trust me, unless you plan on hiring someone next week, you'll be fine letting him go after the season.

Like, I just think it sends an awful message to the rest of your football team. So I'm snipping hard, man. Enough is enough, man. I think this is the stupidest thing to fire a coach, a head coach. and we're not even halfway through the season. You know, last year, Wisconsin started off the season one and three. And you alluded to a T, Bob. They turned it around and end up getting to nine and four last year.

Yeah, it's a slow start. Yeah, you lost a game. You probably should have won. I get it. But he's a terrific coach. He's had a lot of success. He's a Wisconsin man at least given the decency to finish out the season. Like if you want to get rid of them, if you want to put him on the hot seat,

okay, fine. But a guy that's had that much success at Wisconsin, Wisconsin. A guy that won you nine games last year. Give him to the end of the year to see if he can figure it out first before you let him go. So big, big snip on Wisconsin. I honestly, you know what? I like the program. I have no ill will towards Wisconsin, but I kind of hope that their program goes to crap for the next couple of years for this. I do. I think the move they're making right now is it's BS, man. It's wrong. And I hate what's going on in college football. It needs to stop and give them. man through the end of the season. Give them that decency, man. Don't cut them right now. Dude, wait, did you just hit them with the Ricky Bobby, no offense? You're like, look, man, I love Wisconsin. I wish no ill will, but I hope those, I hope they go through. I hope they lose the next three to four years. I do. Yeah, look it up. You say no offense. It's not like when they get rid of Gus, yeah, it's kind of how I feel like when they get rid of Gus at Auburn, you know,

at least they wait to the end of the year, but like, why are you getting rid of Gus? Why are you incredible. Okay, Gus at Auburn, I mean, I definitely agree in hindsight, right, that I don't know that Auburn would feel they made the right choice there, especially because it didn't look like they had a plan. I think that would be kind of the point maybe is Gus's firing at Auburn was almost a little more emotional. They did wait till after the year.

Maybe it caused them to swing and miss some candidates. Look, I'm not going to sit here and say that maybe Chris didn't deserve, that he didn't deserve a little more rope, right? I'm not, uh, I don't know follow the. depths of Wisconsin football well enough to know like, okay, how, what, because, because look, once you lose, once the boosters lose faith in you, you're done, right? Like, is fundraising slowing down? Do people believe anymore? How does the administration feel about him? Like, I can't pretend to even know these relationships. What I do know,

Aaron, is that outside looking in, despite all the really good numbers, I, I do see a very, volatile recipe of bad ingredients here that leads to a firing like this uh look first off first and foremost this is something that i always used to talk about with um oh my god why am i blinging who is the bingles head coach when they made the playoffs oh uh marvin lewis right yep the cinds my entire childhood were garbage all of a sudden louis the red rocket andy dalton a j green your boy and they're making the playoff seven years in a row the bingles would have killed to make the playoff seven years in a row. But you know, they never did or however many it was.

They never won a playoff game, right? So that same success that for a decade plus, the Bengals would have killed for, that same success, which was initially Marvin Lewis's greatest ally, it ended up becoming his greatest enemy, right? Because he created the burden of expectation. That's exactly what I see with Paul here. Because he came out the gate so hot, winning 10 games four or five years, threatening for Big Ten championships, winning major bowls with an orange and a cotton.

All of a sudden, that kind of dried up over the past few years. Then you have a pandemic year where you start two and three, finish four and three. You go nine and four last year, but again, Aaron, that bad start really stuck in people's minds because that immediately kind of sucks all the wind out of the sales of the season. It just creates very toxic and frustrating atmosphere. And now you start a season, oh and three. against the Power 5, right? 17 point favorites losing at home to Washington State,

blown out by Ohio State. And then Illinois, a team that had not won in Madison for 20 years, just beat you 34 to 10 and held you to 68 yards of total offense in the second half. And then you look at look, you were three and three against Michigan during this time. You're 0 and 5 against Ohio State. You lost two of your last four to Minnesota after not losing for a decade. You lost both games. He had a chance against to Penn State.

So, like, if you're not turning in the results you used to, so it feels like you're declining, you're not beating your biggest rivals, and now you're losing to the teams that you haven't lost to at all in this era, like that's a recipe that can get you fired quickly. And that's exactly what happened here as those five games in the season he's done. And look, I actually do kind of buy some of the logic

of starting the coaching search early. like if he agreed to stick around like oh did and coach the rest of the season and let that thing go on i i agree with being able to um get out there look what they got look who else you got like is there a benefit well well but maybe they but maybe they offer but maybe they offered that like oh agreed to it right maybe they offered that to chris and he's like no i'm not going to coach the rest of the year if you're fire me right so it's like that that that's where that becomes a bit tough to know like i would think that they would have at least extended that offer but you know what maybe they did it because again i don't know how toxic it's gotten in that building we will we'll we'll see

but i do understand whether it's right or wrong i'm probably not the best to say i can't even freaking pick an lsue game right but i do understand uh how this comes about and how quickly it can happen i get that that you want to be competitive and i know that wisconsin just like everyone else you know, believes that they should be a top of the Big Ten. They should be fighting for championships. They should be in the conference championship game. That they should be fighting for a spot in the playoffs. I under completely understand.

Like you want that head coach that's going to deliver you to that next level. But we go to the stats again, a guy that is above 700, a guy that won nine games last year, a guy that's taken you to incredible bowl games. It's had a lot of success. So I don't know, man. To me, there seems like to be some other issues going on, whether it's like you alluded to T-Bob, there's some issues when it comes to possibly recruiting or donations from donors that are kind of drying up.

Like something's going on behind the scenes because you don't fire a coach that's had this much success in the fifth or six week of the season. You at least let him go throughout the year and then kind of reevaluate from there. And once again, you look at last year's track record. Last year, one and two, one and three to start the season off, they come back and win nine, nine games go nine and four down the stretch. Who's saying he can't do that once again this year? But bigger pitcher, bigger pitcher once again,

still with this entire dilemma is getting rid of coaches too early. I think you think it's fine. I think you can have just as much success getting rid of a coach in December and using December and January to kind of figure out who that next coaching can be. If your program is good enough, which I think Wisconsin is, Wisconsin is a very attractive job, just like LSU getting Brian Kelly.

It is an attractive enough job. job that when that thing opens, there's going to be a lot of people knocking on the door saying, how can I get my name on that list? How can I have the opportunity to give me some names? Give me, give me some names. Who do you think would be some names that could potentially work at Wisconsin? Well, one name that's not really circulating a lot to me, which is, is I'm waiting for it to start is Dave Clausen at Wake Force. And you're seeing right now the success of this offense. And what do you need today in today's game to have to be a winning football team, you need offense.

You need to be able to score points. It's just the name of the game. You know, I said, I don't love these games in the 40s or 50s. It's still trending as that's what college football is. And if you want to win, if you want to win big time games, you got to score in the high 30s, you just got to score in the 40s. And what he's doing at Wake Forest is showing us that hire me, man, I'll have success on offense.

So I like him at a lot of places. I do. Matt Ruhle is a great name there, you know, a little bit rocky going on at North Carolina, are at the Carolina Panthers right now. Then obviously Leonard, who's on staff, who's now the interim coach, was kind of viewed as that next guy in line to be the head coach. He's going to get his fair shape.

And if he has success, these, you know, the second half of the season, I would think they would stick with him. If he can get the, they get the ball rolling. A couple of comments here to get to Casey Tees says, first time watching live, go dogs. Hell yeah, Casey, welcome, welcome.

Parker Horton says, the clothins. How have I never thought of the cloth? offense before the slow mesh, the drunken style. Are you at all worried with a Claussen? Help me. I don't know if I know this on the top of my heads. I'm not trying to put you on the spot if you don't either. But like, have they had great offensive success transcending Sam Hartman? Just feels like Hartman's been there so long and he's so good. I believe who was there with, oh, man, I'm drawing a blank. The quarterback that transferred from Wake Forest, Jamie Newman. newman was going out yeah supposed to that's right dude jamy new it's supposed to light the world on fire what happened i know but he did like the word on fire at wake four so yeah i mean jami newman had success okay kick that okay fair fair and then sam hartman comes in there and and pretty boy is just dominating and you know working his way to new york and you know give it at wake four is still a living chance to possibly make the championship game depending on how it comes and finishes the season off so yeah man put

his ass on the hot you know on the short list for every job because wake force is not a place that you want to kind of finish your career wake force is somewhere you go have success and then you take that next step and i think he's ready to take that next step i was thinking about this though he's made wake force so tight and the uniforms are tight enough where if ncdbara existed still i'd be playing as wake forest right now you know aaron sometimes if you want to go forward what do you got to do you got to go back there's only one answer this is is who needs to be back at Wisconsin. That's right.

Dude, is that a pretty good Bilema? Could you tell that's Bilema? No. It looks like Sandy Claus minus a head. Oh, dude, I feel like that's a pretty good Bilema. Whatever, dude.

That looks like you have Doug funny had a midwife crisis. Which is like not unlike what Burt looks like. What do you mean, dude? I mean, like bring up Doug, bring up Brett Bielma side by side on this, Brum. And you'll be like, oh my God, T. Bob, what an artist. It is crazy.

As, uh, I think it was part. in the chat who maybe pointed out that I think he was Paul was one win short of be a third win his coach of Wisconsin and burke got their revenge and freaking axed him said not so fast sir also very impressed Illinois okay more on that coming up later um as far as coaches I I love Matt rule me and uh our excellent producer Ryan Brown we got an entire argument before the show about Matt rule um I would definitely look at him I think he's perfect at Nebraska and then again I will continue to say somebody needs to give Jay Jamie Chadwell, a big time job from coastal Carolina.

I think he's going to be good. You know who we know is good, Aaron Murray, are good, are the Georgia Bulldogs and the Alabama Cripsetide. The question of who is better is what seems to be where kind of the issue comes in as for the what now second time this year, we have seen them flip in the polls, right? At first, it was Bama at one, UGA two. well, after some impressive wins and not surprised. You know, Bama was loose to Texas, UJ.

Dominatorian. Okay, let's flip him. Georgia, definitely better teams, Dequavius, all the hype. Well, now it looks like the shoe is on the other foot after Georgia's struggles in coma, barely escaping with a win. And Alabama, despite losing its heisman defending champion quarterback, beats a ranked Arkansas team badly on the road. Aaron Murray, what is the truth of the matter as it stands here on October 4th, October 3rd, October 3rd Monday?

And I apologize for our first time listener. That's a Georgia fan. Don't get mad at me. I still am picking Georgia to beat Auburn this weekend, so don't go crazy. Let's be honest. Georgia's looked like crap the past three weeks. There's no excuse, you know, what they look like versus Ken State last week, how they played versus Missouri.

And honestly, you know, I had Missouri heading into the weekend. and I still think they're there as possibly the worst team in the SEC. You know, it's kind of them, Vanderbilt, and Auburn. And you can't go, I don't care, it's on the road, whatever. You can't go on the road like that and play like crap for a second straight week. Once again, alluding to Ken State the week before at home, if I'm ranking kind of my one through three, because it is still one through three. It is, it's Georgia, Alabama, Ohio State.

And you can mix them up however you want. but when I did my rankings yesterday, I did Ohio State 1, Alabama 2, and Georgia 3. I still think Ohio State right now with the offense, with how well the defense is performing early on the season. I know they really haven't been challenged too much, but that's a damn good football team. That really hasn't shown us any sort of weakness.

Alabama's shown some weakness at times. Offensive that I think they're getting better. I think the receivers are catching on. You know, Gibbs had a hell for performance first Arkansas. And then Georgia is showing some weakness right now too. You know, they can't run the football. You know, it's an offense that is yet to find an elite running back that can run between the tackles. Like, I love Kenny running to the out.

I love Kenny catching the ball in the backfield. I think he's great in that aspect. I was super excited. Like, hey, you know, we found our new James Cook this year, but they can't run the football. And if you're going to be one dimensional in big time games this year, that could be, you know, that could be troublesome. And we saw it this weekend against Missouri. So, you know, I think the one thing that you can say about Georgia. Georgia right now is they're missing two of their better players.

You know, Jalen Carter has been out for two weeks, didn't play last week, came in this week at the chop block. Now it looks like he's going to be out one to two weeks. Ad. Mitchell on offense has been banged up. He has yet to play much this season. So you get both them back in the rotation. I'm going to feel a little bit better about them. But right now, yeah, I definitely move Alabama ahead.

They're playing better football. And I kind of look at the AP pool as a week by week thing. And right now Alabama's playing better. and Georgia just does not look like the number one team in the country. And the AP poll should be a week by week thing, right? We talked about this constantly in our man versus machine team last week. Like the AP poll is reactive. It rewards results.

And as you said, since that Texas, Oregon moment that started the year, all the evidence has been a BAMA team that has been steadily improving while it's been a Georgia team that's kind of been creating more and more questions about itself. and here's my question, Aaron. And I mean, really look, we get to the Bama game in a little bit. Unfortunately, I didn't get to watch the Georgia game. It's kind of at the corner my eye because LSU Auburn was going at the time. And I was trying not to have a heart attack the entire time as I watched Robbie Ashford throw all over LSU.

I offered a same game parlay with Ashford's under passing total under 150. That parlay evaporated faster than anything you've ever seen in your life. Ashford killed it in the first quarter, dude. Anyway, that's neither here and or there. The point is, um, on, on, on Georgia, I have a question for you, Aaron Murray. And this is something that I was worried about. It just felt like he proved me wrong. Has de Quavius gone full F boy?

And I don't know if you're aware of this, right? But there's a reality show on HBO Max now called F Boy Island. And the whole idea of the show, it's like a dating show, a bunch of girls, bunch of guys, or a few girls, bunch of guys. guys and half the guys are nice guys and half the guys are F boys who are there to just take the money and run at the end of the competition. Sequavius obviously used to be a nice guy, but now tight high fade, gold chain, biggie t-shirts. It's painfully obvious.

His aesthetic is trending towards F-boy, but he was still nice. The question is, is he a bit lost in the sauce right now, Aaron Murray? No, no, no, no, I just wonder if he's banged up, honestly. You know, the one thing that, you know, I'd love to see from Stetson for the past two years is he just lets it rip. Like, you know, he goes in there, that chip on his shoulder. Hey, man, I'm out to kind of prove everyone wrong and just letting it wing. And at times last year, I got him in trouble. And I know he, you know, he said that this offseason, he went back and re-evaluated himself and saw a lot of opportunities where he put the ball in harm's way and was going to be a better quarterback and not kind of do that to the offense.

And you've seen that, we've seen that progression through the season. But when I was watching Missouri game, it looked like he was just trying to place the ball. He was trying to essentially throw like a dart instead of just letting that bitch rip. Like just let it go, man. Like you do have a, I would say above average arm strength. You got good receivers. You got amazing tight ends. Like just rip it.

And the amount of times I saw balls overthrown. And a lot of times when balls are overthrown is because the elbow drops. You try to guide it in there. and when it drops ball sails and when you go with confidence, elbows up and you just put a dart right on the body, you're right on the body. And I just was not seeing that in that game.

So once again, I don't know if it was, you know, maybe Missouri was throwing some stuff that he wasn't prepared for. She was kind of, you know, not super comfortable if he's banged up

and just didn't feel his himself. I don't know. But Stacavius was probably the worst I've seen him play since, you know, he played, I would say one or two, bad games last year. A lot of it had to do with, I would say, still not great talent around him

at the receiving position. But I think this may have been the worst I've seen Stett playing the past two years. So he's a hard worker. I think there's a ton of talent there. I'll just chalk it up to. He just wasn't feeling it there versus Missouri on the road. But once they get AD back and get this offense going, it's still, I think the offense that we saw early on the season. I think they're capable of putting up those kind of numbers. Yeah, it's like he almost changed. from Urkel to sexy Erkel and now he's kind of flirting with going back to Urkel. We'll see.

We'll see. On the Alabama side of this equation, so that's maybe why George has been struggling. Alabama looked damn strong the other day. Now let's be clear, right? In a battle of weakness on weakness,

Alabama's weapon weakness is much less of a weakness than is Arkansas's awful secondary. Right. And that was proven. I mean, the angle that is it slusher, the angle that slusher took on that, maybe the first or second touchdown is one of the most god awful defensive plays I think I may have ever seen in my entire life with print of scoring the touchdown. And so, and so I do think that this was a nice matchup from Alabama in terms of stylistic fight. That said, losing Bryce Young, having Arkansas rattle off 23 in a row in that building when it's going crazy. And then to face down third and 15 in that moment, and for Mill Road to go 75 for a score, not only is it just unreal and present for Millrow individually to make that play in that moment when you had to have it. But that is a statement from this Alabama team.

Not many teams could lose their highs when winning quarterback, have a team rattle off 23 in a row, and then win the game 49 to 26. To make no mistake, Alabama's offensive line is getting better. Jamir Gibbs is like you said, getting better and really starting to pop now. And especially if there's an injury to Bryce Young, which I don't think is that serious, Sabin said. But if there were, obviously, you'd start to lean on him more and more.

But here's my bottom line with Alabama. And this is still where Georgia, maybe Ohio State and others are interesting, is that if you cannot hang with Bama's weapons, you will not beat Bryce Young. Like you're just not going to. he's too good at making decisions he's too good at getting the ball exactly where he needs me like he makes the right choices and he knows where to put it when he makes those choices uh so it's going to take maybe which admittedly i don't know this has been the dog strong suit but it takes a secondary or a pass rush that can either win the one-on-one battles against these receivers or get after the quarterback consistently otherwise price young's just going to kill you he's perfect

no he's he's he's amazing man he's he's he won the highest in last year for a recent He's the best player in the country and was last year. And I still like C.J. Schroder at Ohio State as a quarterback. But, you know, what Bryce does with the ball in his hands and the quick release, the athleticism out of the pocket. And you are seeing the maturity of these receivers. They're getting better. You know, Kobe Prentice, you know, kind of jumped off the film to me starting week one. Burns getting better.

Holden's getting better. Gibbs, we knew he was great out of the backfield. Now they got him going running the football. You know, they have benefited. So I don't want to like completely. say that hey this is the Alabama offense that we're used to seeing for the past five years because you face two of the worst defensive backfields in all of America not just the SEC but in all of America wake or excuse me bander built trash just complete trash we've talked about

the numbers for Arkansas trash those dudes are running wide open no one near them guys tripping over themselves taking bad angles like it just it's so it was a good it's been a good two weeks to build confidence and now can Alabama without Bryce possibly for a week take what they're doing on offense and continue to move in the right direction. You know, I talked about the whole AC sprain on Saturday night with the late night show. Peter Burns came and joined us, the one of the pretty faces there on SEC Network. So if you miss that, make sure you go check it out. We had a great time.

But, you know, unless it's a grade three and hopefully it's not, you know, you put a shot in that thing and he should be ready to go in a week or two. So, you know, you got to protect him. He may be a little bit smarter in and outside the pocket. But right now this offense is improving. We know how good the defense is. And I think a lot of people look at that as, hey, this is why Alabama deserves to be the number one team in the country based on the AP poll right now. What up, Teabobab here from Snaps, your new favorite college football show in the volume sports network.

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of the NFL. I was like, oh, who does Alabama have this weekend? And then I forgot this is Texas A&M CBS night game. Oh my God. And the funny part is coming in the year. Jimbo David John would back-to-back wins versus Alabama.

Probably, yes, actually, completely honestly, even though it is funny, Paul Feinbaum saying this morning that the A&M boosters are willing to pay Jimbo's buy out of things keep going bad. I mean, never forget. He is objectively worse than Kevin Sumlin right now by a couple of games now.

And it just looks like a team that is continuing to get worse. But it's funny because like if you would have said at the beginning of the year that going to this A&M game, there would be no Bryce Young. All of a sudden, like, oh, okay, A&M. But when I tell you that A&M feels as dead in the water, as you possibly, as feckless and threatless as you possibly could go into Saturday, A&M got shithouse by Mississippi State. It was embarrassing.

All right, before you get turned next topic. I want to come in a quick, too, Bob. Yeah, yeah, yeah, what you got? Yeah, Kirby Viser in the chat, made a good point, which, which I've been. feeling too you know georgia doesn't have a pass rush and and i alluded to getting jalen carter back on off or on defense like without jalen how are they they're not generating any sort of rush it's it's it's either you have to bring pressure with bringing a fifth or six guy but like for georgia you know last year they lined up and just rush four and constantly getting after the quarterback and obviously

you had the number one pick your draft you had other first round picks i get it but that's been the biggest drop off defensively like they cannot line up with just a four-man rush and put pressure on the quarterback, especially without Jalen in the lineup. So it doesn't look like they'll get him back for a few more weeks. That's going to be an issue. Luckily, the schedule is not too bad. I believe with Auburn this weekend and Bainer built, I believe after that, both home games. But I think down the line, that's going to be a big problem.

If you cannot just rush four, especially at a game like, like, let's just, for example, Tennessee, Tennessee, you need to drop guys back in coverage. Like you need to be able to have, you know, five guys, six guys back to cover those receivers and obviously Hendon. if you can't put any pressure with a four-man rush, head and hooker's going to light your ass up. So they better figure out a way these next four weeks to get that part of their game going.

Damn, dude. Didn't he all have BJ O'Jolari's brother? Back in the day, right? Was that his brother from like a couple years ago that I thought went to league? Am I making this all up? Brum, do you know? Am I making this up?

I think you're making this all up. No, dude. No, there's a brother that went to the NFL. For the record, if you say, am I making this up on live television or whatever we're doing, I will always say yes. I will always so doubt in your mind. Okay. Well, look, you know what? Chats got my back.

Okay. Shout out Casey, Rick, Kirby, Rob, Mary. Yeah, Azizzo Jolari. Okay. The point is you should have gotten BJ because he's a fucking beast. And he can get that four-man pressure. He is a beast, bro. I mean, he is a dog, dude.

he saved LSU's ass by creating that defensive touchdown this weekend. Also, a lot of LSU fans of the chat are imploring me to stop putting the biggest bets of my life on the Tigers because, yeah, I should. Guys, guys, hey guys, I want you to, too. Okay, Bob. I keep losing money. Like, I would be so up on this year if I didn't bet LSU games. But all my tiny little bets get erased and just one fell swoop, thanks to me putting everything. on the tigers i'm an idiot but uh hey what would you go this week i'm gonna do it again what would you go

this weekend in best bets it went one and two dude pathetic pathetic what'd you go but dude i was feeling i was feeling so good that a and m game it's what 14 nothing and a half time third quarter you know still going you know i kind of even told the wife i was like hey let's go take the boat boat out for a quick road no no let's go take the boat oh let's go take the boat off for a spin before the Georgia game, you know, get Maddox tired. I get back from the boat ride. I'm like, what? I go back and watch the film. You know what it was. It was the blocked kick, the block for the touchdown. To make it 21-3. Yeah. Yeah. It broke a lot of it. At least Mississippi State has to drive in order to score and take a bunch of time off the clock.

That damn special teams. And once again, why I think kickers should go away cost me going two and one again this weekend. So. And then, And plus your tigers keep screwing me. You're damn tired. Wait, hold on. You went two and one or one and two? Which one? Oh, it cost you going to one.

Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, look, man. There's nowhere to go but up, right? Oh, and three to one and two, two one week coming this wide a day on best bets. Uh, I will not be betting on Oklahoma.

At least I don't think so, right? Let me look at the board. We'll figure out. But Oklahoma right now, man, I mean, talking to get just beat down. They get embarrassed. by TCU. And it obviously comes a week after losing to Kansas State. And so it's funny for the second week in a row, Aaron Murray,

when you look at Oklahoma, small problems or big problems? How big of a deal is this right now with the Sooners? I think it's big problems. Defensively, going back and watching the tape, I mean, guys are wide open. I mean, wide open. Quarterback pulls a zone read.

You know, he may be my top five quarterbacks a week. Make sure you check that out on social. out soon. It was disgusting. And I don't know if they're trying to do too much or what. Like you keep seeing Venables trying to, you know, disguise coverages and blitzes and then guys, you know, six out of the line of scrimmage and all of a sudden two or three guys come running back to go in coverage and then they get beat.

Like at some point, you try to do too much and it bites you in the ass. Sometimes simplicity is the best thing, just line up and play football. They're struggling with all these concepts on defense. I think a lot has to do once again with the fact they're trying to do too much. instead of just lining up and playing football. And that's why you're seeing over and over again, guys just completely wide open all over the football field. So that's a problem.

Defensively, it seems like they're getting worse. You know, we all felt pretty good after Nebraska. Like, damn, Oklahoma looks good. They're moving in the wrong direction right now. And then Dylan Gabriel for the second week in a row has just been off. And before he got hurt with the pretty, I would say, crappy hit from the defender, he just seemed to be in a really bad spot balls are high balls are sailing he's late he's behind

just a guy that was brought in because he knew the offense he'd been with the OC previously that UCF and i was expecting more and that's once again two weeks in a row that he has just been a hindrance to the offense missing guys wide open down the field he gets injured bevel comes in bevel looks terrible so i just think on both sides of the football there's a lot of issues right now for oklahoma and we'll see if they can get it right we'll see if if he's even healthy ready to go into this game next weekend versus texas uh yeah i agree with parker horton uh talking about tech san an m this was scott woodward's grand plan hiring jimbo to fail at a and m and then coming to ls you as far as oklahoma goes dude i

think um i think look i think it's probably a bit too reactive right to declare the program dead. I mean, this is one of the winningness programs in college football history, not just of this era, but really just go look all time. Like, their heismans, they're all-Americans, they're, their bull wins. It's pretty unbelievable. They're national

championships, even. What this does make painfully clear on Murray, though, is you are not going to have the seamless transition that pretty much Oklahoma has enjoyed their entire existence. Like, for my

entire live. And I mean, to go from Bob Stoops to Lincoln Riley and for things to just keep on puttering along and you just keep winning Big 12 championships, you keep going to the playoffs. Like, this is a fan base that has not dealt with any pain. And it's funny because this is something that actually Andy Staples wrote about in the athletic today is that he, it's almost, it's not a, it's like a perspective based argument, right? That maybe this isn't the worst thing in the world for Oklahoma because when they enter the SEC, this will be their reality until they prove that they can be above it.

But like the same teams that were winning Big 12 championships year and year out will suffer multiple losses in the SEC if something does not change. So they have to remake this program as they enter a new era and a new conference. And so maybe this sort of reality check is not the worst thing in the world.

I will also say this, Aaron. One of my favorite, I had never heard of this guy before. One of the favorite characters I discovered in Andy Stables piece is this guy's name is Thad Turnip Seed, Thad Turnip Seed. He's a former Alabama walk-on. He later helped to build the infrastructure at Alabama that they currently operate under. He then left and went with Davo at Clemson and helped build that program out. And now he's like the executive director of football.

I can remember who's exact title at Oklahoma, right? So he has done this in two different places before Thad Turnip Seed has. He's trying to do it once again here in OU. What that means is in that changeover, maybe there are growing pains. There are going to be struggles. Maybe in the end you get back to the level of these other two programs. I will see this. If nothing else in Oklahoma, it will not be for lack of resources, right?

You're going to have the buy-in from the boosters, from the alumni base and just the fans overall. So you'll get the facilities, you'll be able to recruit. Your history speaks for itself. But you got to feel a little insecure as you're entering this new conference and new air about where the team is currently at. Like you are not going to get a horseshoe, perfect luck transition like you've had a couple times in your school's history. No, you might have to deal with a little bit of shit for once. And you know what, Aaron, that makes us stronger in the end. Okay.

So we'll see how these Oklahoma fans respond. Oh, right. Let's see. Kirby says, interesting. Teabob, I'd say, give Venables a couple years before he gets to turn around. Yeah, look, I'm not saying that Oklahoma has to be good immediately again, because like I said, I think they're trying to build a new in a lot of ways right now. But it's clear that they're no longer the class of the Big 12, right?

I mean, that Rick really can't be hard. Well, good thing they have to be in the Big 12 much longer. So that's, well, yeah. But if you're not the class of the Big 12 and your your expectation or championships, what the hell is going to happen to you in the SEC? Oh, it's a bad feeling. Listen, I'd say what the, you know, watching, watching the tape after this weekend, some of the best, like, I caught myself watching more big 12 games than even SEC games.

Like, that is a competitive, competitive conference right now. A lot of good teams, a lot of teams beating each other up. You know, that was my worry. Like, you know, is there going to be a big 12 team that makes it to the playoffs? because right now, like, anyone can win on any given weekend. Like, I think Oklahoma State is super, super vulnerable on defense. Like, I don't think, like, they're undefeated and they had a hell of a win versus Baylor this weekend on the road, props to them.

But if you watch it, they are, they are a team that, that to me is a 10 and 2 team. Like, they're going to be knocked off one or two times this season. And if that's the best team at 10 and 2, you ain't putting anyone into the playoffs. No, I don't think the Big 12 will, but also, that shouldn't change. They're also probably one of the better divisions top to bottom. There's no weak teams either, as we discussed last week. Big, big win, though, for Oklahoma State.

At least they passed their first major test there. Right now, Aaron Murray, it's time for a little segment that we do every single Monday here on the show, which is a little bit of snips and snaps. Get it? Snips. No, wait, wait, no, no. I did that wrong. I snapped on snips.

Snips and snaps are bad Like it's like we're cutting you out Snaps are good okay So I'm going to start in the positive My first snap of the college football weekend Has to go rock chalk The Kansas Jayhawks dude Vegas was still doubting him

Dogs at home against Iowa State They come out there They find a way to win that game This time in a defensive battle Win that game 14 to 11 They're ranked in the top 25 First time since October 18 2018, 2009, Aaron.

That was the longest drought in the Power 5. Excuse me. In the entire Power 5, nobody had a longer drought. That would be ranked in the top 25, 14 years. Actually, fun fact, do you know who the next longest team is now? It's very random.

I don't know why you know. Please share. Illinois has not been ranked since October 16, 2011. And how about Illinois now, right? Four and one, they're getting some votes. They might break their own streak. But back to Kansas, 5-0, beat Iowa State.

And now college game day is going to Lawrence. Let's go. Lance live pulled. Kansas Jayhawks, my first snap of the week. All right, my first snap of the week is schools in Los Angeles. We talk about the two teams in the big 12, yeah, Big 12 moving to the ICC in Oklahoma, Texas, struggling right now this season. You know, who's not struggling and who's going to be leaving their conference soon?

It's USC and UCLA are rolling right now, both undefeated. And then obviously we both know will be moving to the Big Ten here shortly. And UCLA, man, we talk about USC. We talk about their offense. We talk about Caleb. But Dorian Thompson-Rominson had himself an absolute game for those who missed it on Friday night, taking down Washington. And I know the score looks 40 to 32, but they dominated that game pretty much the entire time.

He went 2433, three touchdowns. He was making dudes miss. He was hurtling. That little sidestep at the goal line was phenomenal. UCLA defense look good offense looks good they are rolling and we both know how we feel about USC two schools in Los Angeles now ranked inside the top 25 big big shoutouts to the to the west coast no the only question for the Bruins is if a game happens in the Rose Bowl and nobody's around to see it does the result count that's what scientists are still trying to

figure out because although they're they're awesome uh nobody gives a damn about going to the games all right my next snap is going to lead in to a snip i'm snapping on old miss dude the machines all miss um we said it before the game all miss was like a spring coiled tightly right a ton of potential kinetic energy it just needed to be released and well the spring has officially unleashed and again i really want to hammer this point home because I think it provides perspective. Think if you were an old miss fan two years ago, two years ago, would you have ever fathomed that you would get a top 10 win at home and a game that was a relatively defensive battle? And you close it out with defensive turnovers that you force through skill, right?

So a defensive battle, top 10 win at home, you close the game with defense. It gives you now 13 wins in a row at home. you move to 5 and 0 on the year and you jump into the top 10 because that's what happened on Saturday. Okay. So the lane train has officially left the state and the complete just turnaround that he is affected there is incredible. And he's even hiring coordinators very well, including Chris Partridge, first year defensive

coordinator. And unfortunately, this is where I get to my first snip here. Chris Partridge is my guy here. He's the ball goate man. He's showing it a. distinct lack of situational awareness. This is after they forced to funneling the game. And it's an awesome scene.

I mean, it's a snap because the whole video is amazing. But the snip comes into the wardrobe here. Just an awful angle to have the gut jangling out of the bottom of the shirt. You got to remember about the coordinator cam, Aaron. You do tell television. Do you know where it is? It's an unfriendly angle to begin with as it's from a lower angle coming up. Just maybe hit a little shirt tuck, little, I don't know,

maybe like a little underarm or something underneath. there. My guys just got full gut flopping around in front of the country here. I can't believe you're going to snip him for that. That's a moment. That is a hell of a moment. Snap all day for that belly. Wear it with pride, my man. Don't listen to T. Bob, fat shaming you on am I am I like you? Have I become like the same way that you refuse to stand with your tiny handed bread brethren. Am I here abandoning? my fellow gutsman. Now,

okay, I got a lot of soul searching. Can we rename your, your LSU takes to, whenever you pick them to T. Bob's tiny hand takes, you know, just the alliteration rolls right off the time. All right.

Teabbs's tiny handed takes because they're not going to win you anything. You're going to win you so little. You can hold them in these tiny hands. All right. Okay, I'm sorry, guys. I'm sorry guys. Shout out Chris Partridge.

I'm happy for them, okay? I'm just saying, dude, just just just just took in the shirt baby he was all right my next snap i got to go to my boys up there in syracuse uh for those who don't know my family's from syracuse big orange fans mostly on the hardwood with basketball not so much on football actually donovan nab was my quarterback growing up so big big shout okay but five and oh heading into the game versus nc state this weekend nc state just lost the clemson can they get the six and oh the cues are rolling right now defense has been terrific.

Garrett Schrader somehow figured out to throw football former Mississippi State quarterback, more of a runner, throwing the ball better this year under Dino, 70% completion, 10 touchdowns, one pick, Sean Tucker at running back. It's a good team. This is a very, very good Syracuse football team. I don't know what the line is right now versus NC State, but I would not be surprised as Syracuse takes their business versus the Wolfpack this weekend. I'll be rocking my orange as soon as the Georgia games over there, cheering for my orange.

So you have such an interesting history. Ericuse, Tampa, part Jewish, part Catholic. You're just, I mean, you are the American melting pot.

I mean, just didn't one human being for a Murray. Even down to being like a sexy quarterback, but having like a manly lineman amount of chest hair. That's, it's excellent. Okay, my last snap of the day today is,

I'm snapping for chaos in college football. all 10 ranked teams lose over the weekend. That is one off of the record, which is 11, which I was surprised learned and done five times. But last time, once in 2018, uh, moving day. How about this? Eight of the 10 teams from 15 to 24 loss, meaning you had Baylor, Florida State, Arkansas, Minnesota, A&M, Oklahoma, Pittsburgh out the top 25.

And you're welcome to the party, UCLA, Syracuse, Mississippi State, Cincinnati, LSU, Kansas, TCU, you gotta love some midseason chaos as we figure all this stuff out. Big time. 100%. Yeah, I'm gonna get two quick snips real quick. The Red River rivalry, gonna snip it. It's not exciting this year. Both teams are kind of average.

Oklahoma average, Texas average. Like, you know, usually this game won the teams is gonna be obviously the favorite to win the Big 12. Doesn't look like it this year. I think both teams are, I want to say limping into this game, but nowhere, near we thought either one would be at this point of the season. So kind of the excitement around the Red River rivalry is, in my opinion, pretty down at the moment. And then my last snip goes to Auburn. Just had your last possible winnable game versus LSU. They're not going to win a game until November. They have to go to Georgia, play Ole Miss, Arkansas, Mississippi State,

the next four. After that, they have A&M. So no saying that they're going to win that game either. May lose the next five, play Western Kentucky, and then have to go to Almond. Alabama. So you're looking at a team most likely he's going to be four four wins, five wins. So snipping Auburn's chances of getting to a bowl game right now. I would snip the Ole Miss frat boy fight in the stands as well if you have that problem. I don't know if we have time that. I know we have to go. But if you have not seen it, look it up a bunch of Ole Miss frat boys in Blazers getting rowdy, arguing about whose dad's dealership offers the better truck tober deals.

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