The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Snaps - Why LSU and Florida State are so similar + Why Kyle McCord will have a MONSTER year
Episode Date: August 31, 2023With no Aaron Murray today, T-Bob Hebert breaks down the rosters of both LSU and Florida State and explains how they have so much in common, ahead of their Week 1 matchup in Orlando. T-Bob also breaks... down the new quarterbacks at Ohio State, Alabama, and Georgia and discusses why Ohio State’s Kyle McCord will have a huge year. #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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I'm going to be solo with you today.
Teabobabre here.
That's right.
Yes, I know.
You may be thinking,
Teabob is that the old all coaches, honorable mention, all SEC guy from
20 that is me yes I know I know the shadow looms large um but no Aaron Murray today as Aaron is out
and we were supposed to have Brandon Walker from a necessary roughness make him uh answer uh well actually
it was going to be a bit of a tit for tat and we still will so I'm excited to get into this
he thinks LSU is one of those overrated teams in the country he's also furious and Aaron Murray for
as well Rogers cord back cranking so we will get there eventually but for today it's going to be
me taking you for about 20 25 minutes I think this is probably going to be a bit of a
shorter show. We sit here on the eve of week one of college football Christmas Eve in so many
ways. And it's actually kind of especially exciting though on this Wednesday because honestly,
the Thursday, it's ironic. We have an opening weekend of college football where Saturday is the
least exciting day, right? Like I will take Florida, Utah and Minnesota, Nebraska over pretty much
anything, I mean, UNC South Carolina is the only thing that I'm really pumped for on Saturday.
And then Sunday we get obviously the just heavyweight Titans match that are LSU and FSU.
And we're going to talk LSUFSU today because I feel like they're kind of fascinating cases that you can study in terms of building a team in this modern age,
how to take advantage of this modern age.
And it's a fascinating matchup just in terms of two fighters that mirror each other in so many different ways and have shown so much growth over the past.
year. And so we'll talk about that growth, maybe what's going to be different this season.
I want to explore this question of we'll playoff expansion, right? This is the last year,
which we're going to have a four-team playoff. We sit here on the eve of it, and we're pretty
excited for week one. When you expand it, 12 teams, that take away from any of the week one hype,
you got Ohio State, Georgia and Alabama all breaking in new quarterbacks this season.
I don't know in the last time that you had three of the top five that are going to be having
new starters and nobody's really batting an eye.
So we'll kind of look at, okay, who do you have the most faith in?
And then maybe a little college football at the movies.
Also, I want to comment on the Brett Yor Mark, Steve Sarkesian situation, which I don't think
we actually did yet on this show.
I don't know how we didn't or I don't know, man.
Sometimes I do so much freaking talking about college football that my wires get
crossed on.
I can't remember where I said one thing or whatever, but we'll get there for fun at
the end of the show. Also, maybe since I got it alone, a dash of Assoca talk as well at the end.
But I do want to start just kind of a general sense. We've won to college football.
I'm incredibly excited. I've continued to study Nebraska, Minnesota. I continue to really like
Nebraska in this matchup tomorrow. In fact, look this, Colorado, Nebraska. If you win tomorrow,
I think you're looking at a 4-0 start for the Huskers. So a truly golden opportunity here.
Matt Rule, Nebraska to immediately make waves tomorrow. And, you know, I had a pretty interesting
conversation with Chris Dorian this morning, Florida's own Chris Dorian, where we talk about how in the
off season, it's almost like a stock market where teams rise and fall. And sometimes it's not even
attached to any bit of news or sometimes it's a bit of news that's arguably extrapolated on a bit
too much, right? And so like, for instance, everybody really, really, really, really, really high on
LSU. And then kind of this last week, kind of post Mason Smith news, okay, you've had Brandon Walker come
out, PFF, Aaron showed a little bit of me like you're seeing some of the national guys kind of
take a step back from LSU. You say, you know, I'm not so sure that we actually believe in this team.
Well, Florida recently seems to have been had a bit of the opposite where, whether
it's like Aaron mentioned on yesterday's show,
an old Utah coach coming out and being like,
you know, we didn't use Graham Mertz correctly or just people watching this
Florida program and being like, you know, they're not as bad as you think or maybe just
expectations being too low in general for Florida.
I mean, the overrunner set at five and a half wins for a Florida gator team.
That is ridiculous.
That's absurd.
Like on any given year, Florida should trip and fall into more wins.
So there seems to be a level of hype and expectation rising.
for Florida. Now, I don't think I buy it. You know, I'm still riding with Utah here.
All the reasons I mentioned yesterday, I think Cam Rising plays. I have no inside info, though.
I just cannot fathom that he would not play. And I think this game matters to Utah.
You know, I think they want to win a third pack 12 in a row, but I think Utah's a little
piss. So they won the pack 12 two times a row. Didn't get to go to the playoff? Why don't you get to
the playoff? Because you lose games like this to Florida. Okay. So I don't buy this idea that,
oh, okay, well, they can, they can, they can sit.
their quarterback and, you know, sit him for a couple of weeks and get him healthy.
Like, no, fuck no.
Utah wants to win championships.
Okay.
And the road winning championship starts Thursday night against Florida at home where it's
going to be sold out.
It's going to be insane.
It's going to be great.
So I still like my Nebraska and Utah picks them more.
I've rumored it on it.
It's only to say that there's a little bit of gator juice coming up.
I'm also very excited.
I don't know how y'all are going to take in week one,
but tomorrow night be drinking margaritas with the boys.
We're going to do a Friday morning snap show.
So we'll recap all of the Thursday night action.
Aaron's going to bring you a very star-studded Sunday night show.
And we'll do a Saturday night show as well.
So we've got a really big weekend coming up here on snaps.
And I'm just fucking excited to talk about it all.
But I'm most excited for LSU, Florida State.
And it's because it's a literal top 10 matchup of two teams that I believe are legitimately championship relevant.
And that's not the only way in which they mirror one another.
In fact, the list is kind of astounding, right?
Both have Heisman candidate quarterbacks.
Both have top 10 wide receiver rooms in the entire country.
Both have top 10 offensive lines in the entire country.
both have top 10 defensive lives in the entire country.
Like it's kind of crazy.
You go top to bottom and you just see a lot of good on good.
But maybe this is where the biggest weakness lies for LSU.
And that would be in the secondary in that sure,
there's always a possibility that somebody the LSU secondary could step up,
but the Florida state receivers that we've talked about so much,
the trio of Johnny Wilson, Keon Coleman and Winston Wright Jr.,
them going against this LSU second.
secondary, which are made up in names that you may or may not recognize, right?
Like, Deuce Chestnut was an all-ACC performer that's had a lot of success against Florida State.
When he was at Syracuse, you might know him, but you don't know LSU freshman Ashton Stamps.
You may have heard of Denver Harris, but he doesn't seem to be in the two deep, right?
The former five-star out of A&M, it's Zai Alexander, you've never heard of him.
He's a transfer from Southeast.
It's like, to me, that's the biggest question mark in this game.
Can that LSU secondary keep pace with what I think is a top five collection of weapons, right?
I'm going to extend just beyond the three receivers.
I'm going to sit it to Jeheme Bell, so it is Travis Pence and the running back,
who PFF has as their top rated NFL running back prospect.
Can the secondary manage to keep pace with those weapons?
And if they cannot, which I don't think they're going to shut them down, obviously, right?
Like, you're going to have to score points to win this game.
Then the question is,
can Jaden Daniels and this LSU offense overcome what looks to be a very good secondary out of Florida State?
In fact, thought to be a top 10 secondary in the entire country, getting a top 10 cornerback in the entire country from Virginia.
Oh, man, I forgot his name, but, but that's the fact that he's a transfer, the fact that two chestnuts are transters.
Alexander's a transfer.
The fact that Keon Coleman is a transfer, which Wright Jr.'s is a transfer.
that's one of the things I wanted to highlight, right?
So we talk about these two teams mirroring each other.
They both got quarterback, both have high expectations to win their conference,
compete for championships, both are really good in the lines with a really good, really
all over the field.
Both teams have 20 transfers in the two deep.
So when we look, so that's about 44 jobs, right?
So out of 44 jobs, both teams have 20 players that transferred in that factor in either
starters or the two deep.
And it's kind of a fascinating case study for how quickly you can build a contender in this modern age of college football.
I mean, Brian Kelly took over a team with 39 scholarship players.
Mike Norvell took over a Florida state program that was absolutely in the dumps.
And what's interesting is you realize he didn't really get it going until the transfer portal rules started being allowed in NIL,
until he could get some of those resources that people were willing to invest.
until he could bring some athletes who maybe at a time
would have gone to Florida to say didn't for whatever reason
until he proved himself a bit last year.
And now he too has built very shrewdly through the portal.
I mean, like, okay, LSU, biggest question mark entering the offseason?
Who's going to play middle linebacker?
You get nobody.
Who do you go get?
You get an all-pack 12 performer off a 10 and three Oregon state team, Omar Spates.
Their beast mode middle linebacker, he now plays with the Tigers.
Florida State's weak receiver.
Who do they get?
They get Michigan State's best receiver.
And Keon Coleman, like I said, a top 10 corner in the country from Virginia.
So all over the field, you're going to see guys that were elsewhere that are now here because why?
Because they believe in the vision of the head coach is telling them, a vision of a championship.
And maybe from the LSU perspective, that's what worries me more than anything.
I want to zoom in on Jared verse, a transfer in his own right, a guy that came from Albany last year,
didn't know a ton about him by the, at the beginning of the year, knew a ton about him by the end.
as this is a cat who's a top 20 NFL prospect last off season.
He chooses to come back.
Why does the top 20 NFL prospect choose to come back?
Generally, if you're a first rounder, you've gone and it makes financial sense to be gone.
Now you could give me the edge case scenario.
Is that okay, if your top 20, maybe you push into top five, that's a pretty significant
monetary difference.
And I can buy that.
I can buy that as a factor in why Jared verse doesn't come or comes back.
I don't buy it as the main factor or the main reason, right?
I think Jared Verst comes back because Mike Norvell has him believing.
I think Jared Verst comes back because he was a part of a Florida state team that he saw start
three and three, but finish 10 and three and finish damn strong while doing so.
And he's a chance now to go from Albany to now compete for ACC championships,
maybe compete for a playoffs, maybe compete for a national championship.
Jared Verst came back because he wants to win.
And that's what everybody did at Florida State.
So that's why they seem extra dangerous to me.
It's not just that they have the talent.
It's not just that they have the fifth most returning production in the entire country.
It's at all that returning production, a lot of those guys are coming back simply because they think this is their chance to win a championship.
Like you look at LSU, they had a guy, Mackay Gardner last year, starting corner played very well.
Left for the NFL.
Just wanted to be done with college, right?
Well, he just got cut, not on an NFL team.
else you could sorely use him last year.
Almost no one did that from Florida State this last off season.
So both of these teams entering this game,
believe in their championship worthy.
And as we've talked about, one of them will emerge as a loser.
And that means one of them will emerge with their playoff dash hope.
And one of them will emerge with their kind of illusions shattered.
And it's those stakes that make this so incredible.
And it's those stakes that make one of this game so unique and that we may never really see this again in terms of so much.
being on the line in a 12 team playoff if you lose week one that is not a death sentence um this year
though it is for these teams or at least for their ultimate national championship goals maybe
not mathematically but functionally it will end up being so and so enjoy where you're going to
witness Sunday night because it's going to be something that you like I said it's going to be
maybe never seen again in terms of what's on the line for each team um I think it's also going to be
a far cry from last year. Again, if we go back to the theme of these two teams mirro each other
last year, what's also kind of fascinating about this? We were interested in this game because
it was the biggest brands, but it's easy to forget that like, we thought these teams were shit.
And they looked like shit. LSU looked awful. Two muff punts, two block field goals,
unexciting offense. Florida State looked really good in some areas, right, D-line, getting after it.
Offense came out of the gates, firing all cylinders, nine at ten on
third down versus half, but then the office to completely silent, second half with a chance
to close out the game and go up 14, they run a toss sweep on the one and they fucking
fumble and give LSU the only long odds at they had to even set up the extra point
that would have forced overtime that later got like like.
Both teams were thought to be shit and both teams looked like shit.
But what did both teams do?
They continue to chip away.
Can you figure the Sims out?
And they got better and better and better as he.
a year went on and now they enter this year. And it's like, it's like when you go away from,
I guess this doesn't exist anymore because social media, so you like see what your friends
look like during the summer, but you always remember like going away every like eighth grade,
ninth grade, 10th grade and you come back from summer and you're like, who got hot basically,
right? Wow, when did he get abs? Jeez, his arms are big now. Oh, thank you. Fitzgerl, Cyprus.
I just saw as though Fitzgeral Cyprus is the corner from Virginia. Thank you, PG. We're like,
Oh man, look, she has boobs now or whatever.
You know how it is?
Like it just seems to happen.
Like somebody leaves, they come back.
They're hot all of a sudden.
Everybody's like, they're talking to town.
Well, that's essentially LSU and FSU, both little skinny boys last year and a bit
of a noodle slap fight.
We watched it because we knew where their dads were.
Well, guess what?
This off season, they hit the weight room.
They did the abs.
They ate the egg whites, the raw protein.
And now they enter this game.
as two muscled up, oil up bodybuilders, ready to trade bows, two true heavyweights,
ready to go at one another.
And I want to be clear, I don't know who wins this game.
I really do not.
It's, um, and it's such a, it makes me feel insecure because it makes me feel bad at my job.
I should have some sort of strong take here.
This game feels so even on paper.
It feels like a coin flip.
Um, maybe slight edge to LSU, but then am I a Homer?
I don't know.
Like maybe so, right?
I also have to try to be cognizant of my own bias here.
And sometimes when you're cognizant of your bias,
then it creates a different bias and you try to fight against your bias.
So I'm a little in my head about this game.
I would say if I wanted to craft an argument for LSU,
I would say this.
Last year when LSU played,
Will Campbell graded out of 46 this game.
Then it ain't going to happen this year.
There's a true freshman starting left tackle in this game last year.
He got Domina as year and on.
He's been great during the spring and summer in the fall camp.
he's going to be a wholly new player.
And that's kind of in keeping with the rest of the LSU offensive line.
Just vastly, I mean, it's pretty much an entirely different line than you saw last year and way better.
If I wanted to make the argument for Florida State, it's that, well, like I said, your strengths match up with their weaknesses in terms of receivers against those DBs.
And we wanted to flip it back to LSU.
I'll say, okay, well, Harold Perkins didn't even play in this game last year, right?
And Harold Perkins would go on to be one of the best players of the country.
ESPN just named as the fourth best players because he only played special teams of this game last year.
Okay.
We want to flip it back to Florida State.
Okay, well, you no longer have Mason Smith.
And all of a sudden, you don't feel great about your edge rushers, LSU.
You don't have Mason Smith in the middle.
We have a top 10 offensive line in the entire country.
You have a weak secondary.
Again, we're going to roll you.
And our special teams are better because your special teams were a disaster last year.
So, like, I could sit here and go tit for tat for arguments.
all day long. Um, and so maybe like as we zoom in, like maybe by Saturday, I'll have like a more firm prediction, but right now I really just wanted to take this time to celebrate what looks to be in a week full of week one shit.
Just a golden gym of a heavyweight bout that should be more part for the course in week one, hopefully going forward in the future than it is.
That kind of brings me one of the second things I want to talk about today, which is like will playoff experience.
expansion de-hype week one.
And you may say, well, yes,
Steve, Bob, you just talked about this.
You said, we'll never see a game like this again.
That is true.
But I think that week one ends up better in the air of playoff expansion
because these coaches are risk averse.
And that's how you wind up with week ones like today because coaches are scared
and they don't want to risk their team not being ready for the opening game of the season,
going to get a good opponent and losing and having all their goals kind of tossed
to the side, right?
Um, what are there, no, no bigger improvement from week one to week two.
Well, what that led to is, hey, let's schedule a cupcake and then we'll be ready for
week two.
I mean, Florida state even against Duquesne last year did not look like the Florida
state that you saw a week later against LSU.
So there's, I mean, there's some merit there, but the point is as TVs continue to
take over college football and I'm not saying that like the negativity in mind,
I just mean that more as a statement of fact, but as TV television ratings continue
to kind of shape college football.
Well, okay, you now got a 12 team playoff.
You now got room for two losses.
Maybe three.
Be interested to see how this thing ends up shaking out when we get into the nitty
gritty of it.
So, you know, you have to be willing to engage in risk to put the best product on the field.
So here's to hoping that in the future, instead of a dehyped week one, we get
an ultra hyped week one because we have LSU, USC, Ohio State.
like Oregon, Georgia, Florida State,
whatever you want to say, you know, you can play this game.
I'll like Georgia Clipson.
It feels like that's been played a while.
It's excellent.
So a great representation going to be on the field,
Sunday night, what kind of the new age of college football can be,
where if you want to fix it and you're at one of these schools,
like an LSU of Florida State,
where you have these inherent powers, you can.
Something else to discuss real quickly here.
Ohio State, UJ and Alabama.
Well, Alabama has it named their starting quarterback.
yet, but we know Kyle McCourt for Ohio State.
We know Carson Beck for UGA.
And we'll see for Alabama.
It was Milro getting steam.
Maybe it's bouncing back to Buckner.
I don't know.
I still think Milro, but we'll see.
But I can't remember a time.
And you had three of the top five teams of the entire country that had
new starting quarterbacks like this on the eve of the season.
So on the eve of this season, I think the question becomes,
who do you have the most faith in?
And this becomes complicated.
Off the bat, I'm going to scratch off Alabama.
And it's not to say that their quarterback can't be good or won't be good.
It's more to say that I think that their team's success will be less impacted by the quarterback
position than these other schools.
Also, working in a new coordinator, losing a Bryce Young and going to a new guy.
And then having three guys that frankly aren't that excited.
Like at least Kyle McCord and Carson Beck were kind of always penciled in as the starters.
And it just had to be made official.
It's a true quarterback competition in Alabama.
So the reasons are clear, Alabama, we cannot have the most faith in you at this point.
You step to the side.
So now we're down to UJ.
and Ohio State, Carson Beck, Kyle McCord.
And this is where we'll probably end up picking Aaron's brain on this as well a bit later on,
maybe tomorrow's show, because on one hand, I've got Carson Beck, who,
Aaron has told me is a, you know, sneaky Heisman candidate, a guy who has bided his time,
a guy who should not miss a beat, filling in the very large shoes of the minute Stetson
Bennett. And he's combined with the coach of Mike Bobo that Aaron swears up and down is
he going to be ready to go. But I don't know that I have that same belief. Now, I think you'll put
up numbers, but what's he going to do in the big moments? I'm not sure. And if we're just
talking about putting up numbers well shit I know Kyle McCord's going to put up numbers
it's one of my favorite exercises to do you go look at Ohio State quarterback numbers
and you look at the time uh from from basically from when Ryan day arrived and we're looking
at so he showed up so the year before Ryan day got there was J.T. Barrett's junior year he throws
those are 24 touchdown seven picks which by the way then sounds like nothing now and we
We're all like, what the fuck? J.T. Barrett, these numbers are crazy.
So then day gets her 17 that immediately goes from 24-7 to 35 touchdowns to nine picks for Barrett senior.
Then we get to Dwayne Haskins, 50 touchdowns, eight picks.
Then we get to Justin Fields, 41 touchdowns, three picks.
Fields again in just eight games, 22 to six in 2020.
Then in 21, you get the CJ Stroud, 44 touchdowns, six picks.
C.J. Stroud next year, 41 touchdown.
So I guess you understand the point, right?
Like, I don't know if Kyle McCord is going to be the guy in the biggest moments.
I don't think Ohio State beats Michigan.
Hell, I don't even know that I think Ohio State beats Notre Dame in South Bend.
But I do know Kyle McCord's going to throw for 40-something touchdowns.
And look, I expect Carson Beck to have magnificent statistical success as well.
because they have excellent weapons and the reasons they're saying,
and they have a shit schedule, right?
So he's going to stack numbers.
But at the end of the day, I just don't see when you look at the consistency
of the Ohio State production and you look at the fact that the coaches staff remains the
same compared to Alabama compared to Georgia, I don't see how you arrive at any other answer
than Kyle McCourt.
Like out of those three quarterback situations, you have to feel best.
about the one in Columbus. So that's my answer. Ohio State's breaking in,
Ohio State,
UJ, Alabama all breaking in new guys. I'm rolling with the Buckeyes.
One note that I saw here today that I don't know if this is especially interesting,
but like it's one of those things where at first is like, oh, fuck yeah.
And then I thought of ever saying, I'm like, ah, I don't, I don't actually, I don't know.
And it's college football at the movies.
Apparently this happened last year, but I missed it, but now it's expanding greatly.
ESPN and the theater sports network have announced a new partnership,
where some like 70 something college football games are going to be shown in theaters,
including all New Year's six games,
college football playoff semifinals and the national championship.
In fact,
I believe this Sunday's LSU,
FSU game will as well.
So where I think this gets interesting is you know me if you listen to the show.
I fucking love the movie theaters.
TV's cool.
you can have the nicest TV in the world.
It will not hold a candle to a nice theater experience.
I love walking in and my senses immediately,
you know,
like those old Looney Tunes cartoons,
and there's like a good smell wafting through the air,
and it hooks the character by the nose and they float over it.
That's me with fucking buttered popcorn.
Buttered popcorn and a medium coke icy
in a nice cool theater as I escape to some fantasy world or sci-fi
or some emotionally heartbreaking.
That is my happiest of happy place.
is on planet earth that said so okay so when I first heard this I'm like oh yeah
fuck yeah new college football part man but then I actually thought about I'm like well am I
in it would be cool to see on the big street but like so much of these CFP
experience is social and well I don't think that it would follow typical theater
rules like I'm sure that people be talking to hang out it's not like a bar like I
don't know that you're ever going to beat a bar so so I will try it out to try to get a
boots on the ground sort of uh research here but I don't know
as much like kind of liked it off the jump.
I don't know that I end up really thinking that college football,
the movie theaters makes a ton of sense.
But, but if you've done it, you know, let me know.
You get the YouTube comments.
Oh, in fact, I forgot to read our comment of the day.
Shout out Jimmy Cranford.
And by the way, guys, the comments are so nice.
Like, uh, you know, a lot of them like, man, I love the show the humor is for it.
So thank you for that.
I, we don't think you enough.
And I should get more involved in responding to all YouTube comments.
So thank you.
Because also when you comment, you drive the out.
algorithm and please the gods that, you know, kind of rule this show.
YouTube.
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unintentionally, the result is what's called a malifor quote, bone to grind is my new
favorite male for.
Oh my God, Jimmy.
I can't even tell you how much I love this.
First off, yes, I too was laughed.
You and I combined bone to pick an axe to grind.
And it's kind of funny because it made the same thing.
right so it works i've also you know i'm a father of three small children so i've listened to a lot of
jack in the bean stock i may have been thinking about grinding bones for bread but um but what i really
love about this jimmy is i fucking love vocabulary love it does it make me sound pretentious yes
but i don't give a fuck okay ever since i was getting ready for the SAT in high school and i'm
doing these vocab tests every week there's just something in about a word that that that has some
deeper meaning that just, oh, it just fucking gets me going. And why I'm going on this preamble,
Jimmy is because I had never heard of the word malifor. Like you hear colloquialism. How could
you not love it? It's mollifluous. Malifluous is melifluous. It flows all the tongue. I had never
heard the word malifor. So I thank you. Jimmy Cranford, you taught me something new today.
And I too now will be on the lookout for malifors. And guess what? I too now will add bone
to grind in my malephoric lexicon. So thank you, Jimmy.
very great comment um anything else to get to today uh oh last thing here brett yormark took the shot
of texas at the texas tech banquet if you haven't heard it he basically said oh look coach i'm gonna be
at austin or whatever date and i expect you to take care of business like you did last year and all
the red raiders fans are going crazy because that detects tech function um some people are getting
like and look then sark comes out and he's like no we said a mean about sportsmanship but i guess he does
He's like a braceate.
But okay,
shut the fuck up.
Did you see the Dana Holgersen comment?
Oh, Jesus,
Brum,
I literally just fuck.
What the?
Whoa,
dude.
I have,
I have goosebumps.
Like that actually scare me.
Okay.
Kool-Aid man,
just popping it out of the wall.
No,
what did Dana Holgerson say?
When we pull this up,
it's incredible.
Basically,
he said,
we don't want them.
They don't want to be here.
We don't want them here either.
It's this like,
we're Texas Big 12.
war that seems no no but nobody see okay but that's my fucking point it's not weird thank you holgerson
like let's all just call that's what that's why when because like you appreciate my gun decision
on this like fuck you everyone who's leading yes because why wouldn't any of us have it they fucking tried
to stab you in the back they almost killed you they almost killed the big 12 as a conference how many
teams out they were be floating around like oregon state and stanford and cal are right now just
fucked because of what Texas and Oklahoma is that's insane and whether you want to say it's luck or
your mark skill whatever the point is Texas and Oklahoma are the ones who started the events that
had the big 12 bleeding out on the ground and seemingly dead no credit your mark and company for
finding a way to make it through but like why do we have to act like it didn't happen what no they
tried to fuck you you want me to be nice to the person tried to fuck me they tried to fuck me
professionally and I'm supposed to be nice to impressively why like just call a spade to
spate if if if you are one of the and there's some really respected writers and thinkers out
there that I think are like well your mark as a conference commissioner should be above it
fuck that no he should not uh or even if you know what even if you want to say for his
professionalism he should I'm just saying as an adult male he should not okay um or
done male, just an adult. You should not. I don't need to show respect necessarily to those who
disrespect me. Uh, so I think Brett Yormark was well within his rights. And yes, it is like a situation
where like a couple breaks up, but they still got a lease and they got to continue to live together
and it's awkward as hell and everybody wants it in, but you just can't end it. Oh, wow. Okay,
this is awesome. So Pat and our little chat here on Streamyard, uh, not sure if it matters,
but Cam Rising out tomorrow
first Florida fucking great.
It's about a great way to just immediately
timestamp a podcast
you just recorded and ruin it in which I spent
a couple of minutes talking about how I expect Cam Rising
to play in Utah to win.
Well, these are the breaks.
But no, no, no, no, no.
And he says I can cut that out.
I don't care if you cut it out there.
It's up to you.
It really doesn't matter of me.
But hey, look, thank you to everyone for joining us
today's episode.
I know it's a bit meandering a bit all over the place.
We had to kind of cobble
together a last second show here, as I was expecting.
I had a whole interview ready to go with B Walker, but we'll get that done.
We'll get him.
Aaron will be back tomorrow.
Like I said, we're going to record on Friday to recap all the Thursday,
A games.
We've got a Saturday night show.
I'm not going to be the Sunday night show, but Aaron and a couple of really special guests are.
So I definitely recommend checking that out after LSU, FSU.
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