The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Snaps - Why Ryan Day and Ohio State need a BIG bounce back season in the Big Ten
Episode Date: July 27, 2023Aaron Murray and T-Bob Hebert discuss the upcoming season for Ryan Day and Ohio State. After losing to Michigan in back to back years, and not having won the Big Ten championship since 2020, can the B...uckeyes bounce back and reassert themselves as the Big Ten’s top dog? #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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How we feel on today?
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that, oh, I looked up the SEC records today, Aaron. And I'm not feeling great about
your yardage record unfortunately.
What is it?
How far am I up right now on him?
What do you,
I mean,
do you actually want to know?
I would like to know, yes.
Okay.
So Aaron Murray threw for 13,1666 yards.
Pretty sexy in four years, Aaron.
Nice job.
Right now, Will Rogers is at 10,689.
So we're about 2,600 yards.
away. That is
not good. That's not ideal.
Not good. We need this new pro-style
offense at Mississippi State to be
That's the problem. You need them to be very
bad. You need them to be very bad at this point.
Yeah, like almost like a Kentucky style
offense from last year where it's we want to play
slow, not at tempo, snap the ball under five seconds
and just keep handing it off.
Listen listen
Listen I will
I'm fine with the completions
I'm fine with the yardes
I just need him to stay away
From the touchdowns like that's the one I take most pride in
So if he can just stay away from the touchdowns
I'll be happy
All right let's check on that
By the way
Will Rogers
And so this is fourth year
So he breaks him this year
It's legitimate
But Will Rogers in 2021
Through for 4,700 yards
Are you surprised
By God
16 times a game.
Because look, last year he threw for 3,900, which is still impressive.
But this man threw for almost 5,000 yards in a single college football season.
All right, Aaron, it looks to give 121 touchdowns.
You and Danny Worfell, the only quarterbacks ever to break the century mark for their career.
Hell yeah, good job, dude.
And then Peyton Manning and fourth, Will Rogers has 82.
He generally throws around 35 touchdown.
that would still leave him short if this is his last year in college.
He needs two years.
He needs two years, which he does have two years, which is why I always say, yeah.
Because this is a more pro-style system.
And if he does well in a more pro-style system, it probably doesn't behoove him to come back for another year of college.
Why waste another year when you go ahead and start plying your NFL trade if he proves that he can do it under center?
Yeah, I'm hoping Will Rogers throws like 30 touchdowns, four interstowns.
3,300 yards, and gets the fuck out of Mississippi State.
That is what I'm looking forward to.
You know who doesn't get enough respect considering he's a national champion quarterback?
Chris Leak is fourth all time in the SEC in passing yards and fifth in touchdowns.
And nobody thinks about him.
And like Drew Locke's up there, but like you remember Drew Locke doing that, right?
Like I just remember everybody always hating Chris Leak and thinking that he sucked as he was like winning all these games and playing well.
And everybody's like, oh, well, Julie, Thibow.
and he's the future.
Like he got overshadowed by Tebow,
even when Tebow was a freshman
and wasn't the main quarterback on the team.
This is why our boy,
the mailman,
Sethson Bennett needs Carson Beck
to have a below average season.
And I don't think it's going to happen.
But like what happens the story of Stets and Bennett
if Carson this year goes and throws 40 touchdowns,
wins and atties in New York?
Does that diminish the mailman's accomplishments?
Does it diminish the chances of,
of getting a statue at that point?
Maybe diminish the chances of getting a statue.
That is fair.
But no,
the mailman's legacy is set to you.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I know you Georgia fans still think he sucks
and he's like not up to snuff for you all
because your heads are so incredibly inflated
that I'm surprised that you can still get erections
considering all the blood that must be rushing up there 24-7.
But Stetson been again,
I mean,
we just can't say it enough.
Was incredible against the good teams.
MVP's in all the playoffs and championships.
Put some fucking respect on his name and let's Carson Beck.
Hey, Aaron, how about this?
Let Carson Beck prove a single thing before you go ahead and crown that man.
Let him prove just one thing.
Nope.
I'm trying to win some money over here.
I need him to ball out.
All right.
Okay.
So on the topics today, we're going to touch on a little pack 12 again.
This time maybe put it up against the ACCC because when you look, we'll get into it.
What does Ohio State need to do this season?
season? And is it simply just beat Michigan? We got a new NIL law, which we're not going to spend
very long on, but it's worth mention because it is kind of one of the biggest time relevant
stories in college football right now. And then a little bomb threat news as well. Also,
may talk little aliens. We'll see if we have time. Aaron has a hard out today.
Okay, let's dive in to this Pac-12 conversation. I've seen this floating around in the ether bit.
And it's this question of, will the Pac-12 cannibalize itself? And that is.
a conversation that's certainly interesting and I'm willing to explore on but but I think there's
almost one that emerges from that conversation when I feel very confident in saying the big 10
will get a playoff team the SEC will get a playoff team I also feel pretty damn confident that
either the big 10 or the SEC will get a second playoff team so all of a sudden you have
three conferences with one spot remaining I'm not really I think the big 12s
going to be very fun this year because again, everybody relative to one another is really close
talent-wise. And the teams that should be overwhelmingly good just aren't in Oklahoma, Texas, right?
But I don't think anybody's going to be able to emerge with the Big 12. So it comes down to
one spot, Pac-12 ACC. Aaron, who do you believe is more likely to make the playoff?
Wow. If all is even, are you saying with an even record, are we ranking the conferences here?
No, no, no, no, no, no.
That's a different conversation.
If you go even record, it should be the Pact 12.
But we wish it 100% be the Pact.
Well, I think that the question should be also, even record, I'll throw three teams out there.
And this is, we'll sidebar this for after, but just a little teaser.
Clemson one loss, Texas one loss, USC one loss.
Who gets in?
I think that's an interesting conversation to you along with this.
But who gets in from your original question of the Pact 12 or ACC this year?
Like, who can actually make it to the top?
Who's not going to beat each other up?
I would say ACC.
I would say it's more of a likely scenario that Clemson goes 12 and 1.
I'm still more of a believer that Florida State's going to be the team in that conference to actually win the ACC and have a chance to go to the playoffs.
I would say Florida State more likely to go 12 and 1 this year when the ACC get in, then USC going through their gauntlet or Washington State or Washington or Oregon getting only a one lost in the Pac-12 and making it.
and then having to go win the Pack 12 championship on top of that.
So I like the ACC.
And honestly,
if we want to even throw three conference in there,
I like Texas more than all three of them
to be able to go 12 at 1.
I think they have an easier path to make it.
I mean, who is an easier path?
When it comes to just talent on the roster,
who is an easier path to get through?
You talk about the Big 12 being fun.
We know Texas is more talented.
I would say Texas has the easier path
to get to a 12 and 1
with a conference championship
than a U.S.
No way.
The Big 12 is, I don't care how good you think Texas.
The Big 12 is significantly better in the ACC top to bottom.
I mean, significant.
I would take TCU over every ACC team not named Clemson.
The drop.
I think TCU takes the drop this year.
Not that much of a drop, dude.
They've done a very good job of replacing talent.
I think TCU is better than anybody not named Clemson or Florida State.
I would definitely take Kansas State over anybody not named Clemson or Florida
State.
Like, no, no, no, no, no.
The path for Texas to go 12-1 is not easier.
And not even getting into the fact that you just seem to be ignoring that's not what Texas does.
It's not what they've ever done.
It's not what Sarka's ever done.
Like, like the ceiling is 10 and two regular season for Steve Sarkesian.
Like I told you yesterday, after talking to some people, I feel more confident than ever in my Texas takes.
The question has to become.
Somehow you steered it back to.
Texas. You've been hanging out with Brumley for too long.
I know. I think that
the question really becomes, you know,
you look at Florida State. So I'm
still believer, and you can, you can call me wrong
here and say that you think Clemson's going to win the ACC.
I think Florida State's going to win the ACC.
The problem with Florida State
is they play LSU week one.
I think LSU wins that game.
So now of a sudden for Florida State,
you have to go, do you have to win
the next 12 games in a row? Yeah.
All margin of error is eliminated.
Eliminated.
So I think that's the hard part for me
because I think they do take care of business
First Clemson.
I think they do end up winning the championship.
I don't know if they can,
I don't know if they survive 12 straight wins
after losing to LSU.
Now, if they beat LSU,
then I feel really good about the situation.
But I think Florida States a team
to me is good enough to make the playoffs.
I just think the margin of air goes down,
obviously, when you lose week one to LSU.
So I think they're going to be a...
So you're calling Texas in that logic,
then you're calling Texas beating Alabama
because otherwise they're going to have the exact same situation
where they lose to Alabama,
they're suddenly going to have to run the table in a conference
so they never, ever, ever run the table.
I guess you're similar.
Yeah, both of them have early,
early losses that could hurt them.
I would say,
you're seeing it now.
I think Texas,
I think Texas can beat Alabama.
I just,
I was on the radio show this morning.
I just,
everyone is just sucking Alabama's dick.
I just don't feel it this year, man.
Like I feel the same.
way about you in Texas.
I just don't feel it.
I know you do about Texas.
I think Texas can go in there and win it.
I think it's more likely that Texas beats Alabama than Floresa B beats LSU.
I think LSU is just that good this year.
I'm sipping the LSU Kool-Aid.
I think the PACT is just too hard.
I do.
I think those teams, I think the PACT 12, there's five or six really good teams that
any given day can beat each other.
And it's not like one has to have an amazing day to do it.
I still think USC is the better of all of them.
But I just think that it's going to be, it's going to be exciting.
I think the Pact 12 is more exciting than your Big 12 this year when it comes to games.
Yeah, I would agree that.
I would agree that.
Hopefully we can watch the games.
But no, I mean, look, I, after doing our Pact 12 quarterback ranking yesterday,
which if you missed it, I'd go back and listen to it.
Like, you will immediately recognize just how frisky this conference is.
I mean, by far the best collection of talent, the best position.
And like we said yesterday, even the teams that don't have.
settled quarterback races like UCLA, Arizona State, Stanford, maybe save for Cal.
They all have like genius, exciting offensive minds.
I mean, I just saw the headline right before you start of the show so I couldn't
dive into the article.
Kenny Dillingham, the new quarterback whisper.
Like, here's a PAC 12 question.
How worried, Aaron, are you?
Give me the quarterback perspective.
How worried should we be about Bo Nicks post-Dillingham?
Because Bo NIC's best football in his career, his freshman year.
and this last year have all come when he's been up,
when he's been paired up with Ken Dillheim.
Look at somebody like Michael Pinnock, Jr.
When was Pinnock Jr great at Indiana when he had Cail and DeBore?
When was he not?
When they were gone?
When he'd get great again when Cail and DeBore came back?
So all of a sudden, yeah, we've seen Bo Nix be incredible,
but no more Kenny Dillingham.
Yeah, but I will defend Bo Nix again in the sense of, to me, yes,
the, the relationship between an OEC and the quarterback is pivotal.
You know, I was fortunate enough to have a OC for
four years. So, like, we knew each other well.
Bobo knew what I liked. I knew what he liked.
Like, there was that, that relationship that, that just made everything so much easier
come game days.
Bo Nix was, was, I thought, played really well his last season at Oregon, or, excuse me,
at Auburn. It wasn't the Bo Nix issue. It wasn't an offensive issue. It wasn't a,
a, a coordinator issue. It was a, we don't have town around Bo Nix issue. That's, that's
it. Go watch the games. He played really well. He just had to improvise a lot. He had
he used his leg 24-7.
I remember calling the game versus Georgia,
and he's driving the ball up and down the field.
Ball goes through Shanker's hands.
The titan, first possession, should have been a touchdown.
Third quarter, ball goes right through the receiver's hands
on a dig route from left to right
that should have been a first down to keep the game somewhat close
before Georgia kind of ran away with it.
It was a, we don't have players around Bowdox issue,
so will there be a drop-off because of a new coordinator,
maybe a little bit?
But I still am a believer of,
I've seen enough good football of Bo-Nicks
with or without his coordinator
to know that this kid's going to have a special season.
What's the most annoying thing that happened as a quarterback?
Just like somebody fucks up a protection
or somebody drops a touchdown
or somebody tips a ball and then it gets picked?
Like an offensive player.
Or a receiver gets tackled at the one yard line.
That always pisses me off too.
Oh, man, because then you lose your ass in the end zone.
Just get one yard, man.
I mean, it's like I understand like Blitz pick up sometimes,
you know, half the time it's the quarterback,
fucks up, you know, office, like, but like you have one yard to go.
You're telling me you can't figure out a way to get in the damn end zone with one
yard to go.
My old man used to always talk about how he felt like balls that hit the receiver's
hands and pop up and get picked should not count as, as interceptions.
It should be like an error, like in baseball or something.
All right.
Okay.
So look, to sum up this Pact 12th is the thing.
I think we're of the same mind.
If you're a betting man, I think you bet on the ACC seat because there's so much good
in the pack 12 that it feels like they do cannibalize themselves.
But at the end of the year, if you're telling me I have a one lost big 12 champion,
a or let's start with this.
If I have a one loss ACC champ and a one lost fact 12 champ,
I'm absolutely giving the nod to the to the pack 12 champion.
Yes.
If there's one loss big 12 and one lost pack 12, well, then maybe, well, okay, yeah,
but then, but also then maybe the SEC and the big 10 don't.
get two different teams in.
Like I would not put,
I would not put a one loss,
Ohio State or Michigan over a conference champion
that went through that gauntlet.
So that would actually be very exciting
because then I would see SEC,
Big Tim Champ and then two other conferences,
which is kind of the dream.
I don't know if we've,
have we had a four conference playoff?
In Washington, maybe, maybe,
that's a good question.
We should look that up.
We have had one.
We definitely have.
We definitely have.
Or are we sure?
If you count Notre Dame,
we've definitely had multiple conferences represented.
We don't have a two.
The first one was four.
So we've had time to a few times.
Okay, cool.
Let's agree with this.
I think everyone in the country can jump on this.
All these conferences are good enough that if your conference champion has a one loss,
they're in.
Yes, unless you would end up with five and then the ACC would get left out.
Like if you had five one lost champions, yeah.
Yes.
Yes.
But yes, I agree.
That's a good point, Aaron.
Nobody's going to get jumped this year.
No one's going to jump to year because of how good that all everybody is.
Okay, let's zero in then on a team with playoff expectations every year.
And that's Ohio State.
The athletic had a very interesting article where they did an Ohio State fan survey and they
pulled over 1,000 Buckeye fans and asked them some key questions.
It appears that voter, or invest.
confidence remains high with the Buckeyes.
Over 50% of responders expect Ohio State to go 12 and 0.
It's not an unreasonable expectation whatsoever.
And kind of the bottom line is Aaron, all they say is beat Michigan, you know?
That is that all that matters.
And it's kind of funny.
I don't know, like, is there another parallel to the Michigan, Ohio State rivalry in all of
cause where it's not in its intensity or other things like that because absolutely there's
great rivalries of the country?
but is there another parallel in terms of the two teams have reached such a point
that the rest of their conference is kind of trivial
and it literally just comes down to that only game.
I don't know that I can find something like anywhere else.
No, I don't think you can.
I think they are the kings of the mountain.
And it has been like that forever, though.
I mean, Ohio State has run it and now all of a sudden Michigan finally cut up and it's
one of the last two.
So I am fascinated by that article, though, of the sense of,
of the sense of the polling of it just beat Michigan
and it's a successful season.
Because let's not forget,
they were a field goal away,
they were an injury away from winning the national championship last year.
I think Ohio State versus TCU,
I don't know if it would have been the same outcome
of like 65 to 7,
probably like 50 to 21.
I mean,
they would beat the brink of TCU.
I think we can feel comfortable in saying that.
Ohio states,
they were that close from Marvin Harrison,
Junior not getting knocked out or
making a field goal the end of the game from
winning a national championship. And you can't tell me if
you were a fan at the end of that game, at the end of, if
they did beat TCU and
you would say, was this successful season,
100% of fans would have said yes.
Yeah. For sure. For sure.
I don't buy into that. Oh, it's just
beat Michigan and we're happy. No.
It's, it's, if, if, if, if, if, if,
there's a two loss, Pac-12, a
two-lost, big, uh, big 12.
And Ohio State loses to Michigan,
gets into the playoffs and ends up winning a national championship.
We're talking about Ryan Day being an incredible Ohio State coach.
We're talking about, do we give Ryan Day an extension?
His legacy is immediately made.
I mean, he'll get an excedureate.
He's like 45 and 6 or something.
You want to beat your rival.
I get you want to win the conference.
This is still, you win a Natty and all is, all is.
You could lose to Michigan for the next five years, but if you win a Natty two times in that span,
no one's questioning you as a head coach.
I agree. So, I mean, I guess if Ohio State fans, to be completely honest, they would say beat Michigan in successful season or win a national championship.
But it is clearly unsuccessful if you lose to Michigan and fail to win a national championship, which is what they did last year.
And that's a high bar because, I mean, what they finished, 11 and 2, I suppose, right?
11 and 1 regular season and then I barely playoff loss to Georgia.
But, hey, man, that's the expectation. That's the breaks. That's what Ryan Day has set there.
you look at this year, Michigan looking to win their third big title,
Big Ten title in the row, first time since 1992.
And they look like they have all the advantages.
The game's going to be back in Ann Arbor.
They have all the returning players.
Ohio State's working a new quarterback.
Ohio State's got offensive line concerns.
The survey had O line problems as the biggest concern on the entire team after they
lose three starters, including an All-American,
still don't have your starting center, right tackle.
And then you don't even know who your quarterback's going to be.
What can you tell me about Kyle McCord, Aaron?
It seems like that's who Ohio State fans expect to win that job.
Yeah.
I think that's the guy.
I mean, the guy, the only one in the roster with playing experience came in there.
I think a couple years ago played really well.
Big kid, great arm.
And when you look the way this offense is built, you want a kid that can push the ball vertically down the field.
And that's what he can do, accurate with a good arm.
When you got Marvin Harrison Jr., a backup, a Buka back, you know, you want to get those guys in the ball in their hands.
I mean, it's the best receiving core in America.
So give me the quarterback.
that has experience that I trust with accuracy and can take care of the football.
And I think that's going to be him.
I mean, I'm not worried about this offense.
You and I've talked about enough.
This offense is going to be elite.
They got the running backs.
They got the receivers.
The offense line will figure itself out.
And I do think they have enough talented, enough quarterback who doesn't need to be a
first rounder to make it work.
They are in a good spot.
Defensively is where they got to get better.
They got better when it came to points per game last year giving up.
besides two games.
They got crushed by Michigan.
They got crushed by Georgia.
They got to get better in the secondary when it comes to stopping the pass.
I mean, for goodness sake, J.G. McCarthy, who was abysmal throwing the football last year,
made them look like a JV football team.
Same thing with Georgia in their passing attack.
They made some improvement.
That is also, though, is that a bit built through the weakness in the trenches, though?
Because one of the reasons why they were susceptible to J.J. McCarthy is they were terrified of getting pushed around by Michigan's offensive line.
And so because they start committing push round.
Yeah, I know, but I'm saying, but then so then you're so, I mean, but if you're not good enough on your front seven, then you're forced to commit more to the box.
And that's what JJ McCart.
Who's able to beat you over the top with like single high man coverage.
I don't know if there's a defense that that may be a couple.
I give Michigan crap for the offensive line last year and win the Joe Moore head award.
But it was a really good offensive line.
It was a very good offense line with a running back that would have been in New York if he didn't get hurt.
and a running quarterback that was run first.
So there wasn't a team that was going to face Michigan last year
that was going to say, okay, the majority of this game,
we're going to have to commit a safety into this box.
So, yeah, Ohio State's front needs to be better
to maybe put Ohio State in situations where,
or excuse me, to put Michigan in situations where, you know,
it's third and long.
Yeah.
But I would still say that the bigger issues are going to be secondary
for Ohio State getting better.
I'll say this major point real quick.
Michigan will win the game this year.
But Ohio State and the brand of football,
the Ohio State plays gives them a better chance
to win a national championship.
Not this year.
Not this year.
Not this year.
Not this is going to be the peak Michigan.
I know where you're getting at.
I just don't agree.
Peak Michigan still doesn't have the athletes
or the explosiveness to beat a Georgia.
does not have the athletes or explosiveness to beat LSU or Alabama.
They're the poor man's version of Georgia and Alabama.
Hard disagree.
I think they're a Richmond's version of Georgia and Alabama this year.
Okay, so real quick on the NIL front.
They're returning everybody.
They had 2,000-yard rushers last year, Donovan Edwards and Blake Corum.
Donovan Edwards have seven yards to carry.
What is beat Georgia, what is given Georgia's the biggest issues past year?
Yeah, but we had all these same conversations about Ohio State.
We had all these same conversations though about why Michigan would never pass up Ohio State, and they did.
So I'd say they can't pass up Georgia.
They added the beat UJ period.
And you know me, I'm not as sold in Georgia as all y'all are.
I get it.
Let's crown him.
You're to crown him.
Why even play the fucking season, Aaron?
I don't know.
Let you and your friends bark at each other's face and then you can take home a third national title.
how about that?
I'm with it.
Let's go.
It's,
it's,
it's been 80 years.
Let's just move on and then be the new one.
Yeah,
let's go.
You put Michigan's brand of football on the same field as Georgia's brand of football.
They're getting their ass beat.
Ohio State's different.
Not this year.
You need,
you need offense beat C fence,
man.
In today's game,
offense beats defense.
And not old school offense.
You need the new school offense to beat an elite defense,
which they're going to have to face to win a championship.
Spoken like,
somebody with a fresh-ass Tampa Bay fade.
Okay.
That fade loves spread football.
No appreciation for how the big boys do it up north.
Unbelievable.
I'm just jealous.
Your hair does look great.
And you're obviously studyingly good looking.
Okay, new NILA really quick.
You're on a heart out here.
Tommy Tupperville and Joe Manchin, one former coach,
one former player, a couple of senators now.
still crazy to me that Tuberville Center.
Proposed a new bill called the Pass Act of 2023.
I'm going to run through this very quickly because I think NIL conversations are boring.
Here are the highlights.
This bill would ensure an equal playing field by prohibiting NIL for being used as inducement.
It would also require a National Registry of Boosters, Collectives, etc.
It gives student athletes some great health insurance coverage after they're done playing.
The bigger the school, the more protection they have to provide.
it established protections for student athletes beyond the playing field.
You know, education on financial literacy, having agents need to have the requirement of like getting accredited and stuff.
So like if you want to be an NFL agent, you have to get accredited by the NFLPA, right?
It would be the same type deal.
It would also strengthen oversight and enforcement of NIL activities and ban some things for being advertised like tobacco and whatnot.
It would establish national standards.
standards for inactive activity.
So no more state law to state law.
And interestingly stuck in there as a new transfer rule.
They would basically be getting rid of the transfer portal.
It would be students would not be allowed to transfer without at least three years at
their current school.
And that's like barring like a debt.
So it's kind of be going back to the old system.
Here's the deal.
This is kind of much to do about nothing to me for a couple of reasons.
I know people are trying to push this hard because a lot of people have
vested interest in pushing it. But there's been about a dozen of these bills. None of them has gotten
past the first step of legislative process. But more so than anything, Aaron, no pay for play sounds
good. How do you do it? How do you legally, how do you legally codify when advertising crosses
over into pay for play? It's really easy to say, look, we're going to stop pay for play and it's not
allowed. But guess what? That's what all the state laws say right now.
You know what I'm saying?
Like every state law says it right now, and it doesn't mean anything.
I think the more interesting thing, and this is something different from your article,
but it does touch on the NIL, was more of what I read today where they're working.
There's numerous collectives right now that actually have sat down with SEC officials and
NCA officials and are proposing a revenue split with the universities.
And the big issue with that is of, okay, if a player gets paid revenue split from these major TV deals,
are they going to be classified as as a worker of the university?
What the collectives are proposing is the money will pass through the collectives at each university.
So the student doesn't become an employee of the university.
The student is just benefiting from the collectives getting paid.
The collectives taking the money and then paying the student athletes from there.
Trying to find the workaround.
Still to me, separate conversations.
What does it have to do with a local business owner?
wanting to advertise with the player.
There's nothing to do with it.
I'm just saying like this is just NIO.
Like to me,
look,
that's a fight.
I'm bored with the other conversation.
Like I am with you.
Like I don't think people give a shit about this kid getting paid by the local mom and pop.
I do think the next evolution of NIL is this discussion of can you take money from these massive TV contracts and work it into a way that these student athletes get paid.
No, to be clear.
That's a fight that's going to have to be had as well.
Like all of this is just a putting off.
of players getting their hands in the TV revenue because like that's kind of the genius of
NIL and why don't understand why the NCAA just isn't kind of more accepting of it is the geniuses
players are being paid and you're not having to do it whereas pretty soon here schools may have
to start giving up some of their money um you want to hear the dumbest crime I've ever heard of
one of the all-time dumbest uh Kansas offensive lineman Joe Krause was arrested Monday he was charged with
quote, aggravated criminal threat, causing terror, evacuation, or disruption.
As it looks like Joe allegedly called in a bomb threat against the Kansas football facility.
Why I say, this is the dumbest crime I've ever heard of, I cannot fathom.
Like, it could not have been hard for the police to track this down.
Because the only people who care about Kansas football enough to call in a bomb threat,
on the building are going to be people who have been like directly affiliated with the program.
Right.
So already you're working with a way, way smaller pool of guys.
And I don't know Joe's exact story.
He appeared in two games of 2022.
Hasn't appear, or 2020, excuse me, hasn't appeared a game in the last two years.
But it would appear that he was terribly upset.
And so he tried to threaten a football program that nearly no one cares about except for me because I love Jalen Daniels.
Wild.
Completely wild.
Go Jayhawks.
Yeah, Rock Chalk, baby.
Kansas can be good last year.
Dude,
Kansas sneaky pick
to win the Big 12
with Jalen Daniels, okay?
How about that?
How about that, Aaron Murray?
See, you can't even wrap your head.
You can't even wrap your head around that
because you're so obsessed with burnt orange and boomers.
I am so obsessed.
I am.
You can't even get there.
You're a little small.
all smooth brain can't play it's lipole baby let's go return the whole offense got your
quarterback i mean he's won a lot of championships you know yeah uh and in in on his resume
why not um Aaron do you believe in aliens no not at all like in the entire universe as we know
it you don't think there's any other form of life out there no I do I do I'm kidding I do
what about intelligent life yeah okay better question then because I would I agree with you
mathematically it feels like it has to be right do you believe we've made contact with aliens no
i don't think i do had but i'm pretty intrigued but what's going on in capital hill right now
unfortunately we're kind of out of time today so we're going to have to touch on this
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