The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Snaps - Will Matt Rhule return to college football post Panthers? Best team: Georgia or Ohio State?

Episode Date: October 10, 2022

T-Bob Hebert and Aaron Murray discuss Matt Rhule's firing from the Carolina Panthers and whether a return to college football is in the cards? Georgia sits atop the AP Poll, but Ohio State is  @FanDuel 's favorite to win the national championship - which team is better? Later, the guys debate if Brent Venables will turn around the struggling Oklahoma Sooners. #Volume #ColinCowherd #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Shout out to Fan Duel for making this all happen. promo code snaps. I'm one of your hosts, T. Bob Aver, and I am joined by my co-host, dwindling SEC, record holder QB won himself mr. air murray aaron what's up dude i mean just didn't feel a sweet waking up this morning knowing that one of my records is gone and he did it and and literally i think about half the games that it took me to get the record i think i played 52 games and and had the completion record for the cc and will rogers has played i want to say 28 games and beat that record that just tells you kids you want to throw the football go to air raid offenses because it's just going to put you up stupid, stupid stats.

If only I got to throw the ball five yards on swing routes to Todd Gurley more often during my time of Georgia, maybe I would not be losing the record to a guy that's only played 28 games. Man, big shout to him. That's a hell of a feat to do that. But like you said on Saturday Nightmare, man, put a little asterisk by it. It's like an offense on steroids. When they throw the ball 60 freaking times a game. It's not about the roids.

It's about the raids when it comes to college football. and there's no way that Will Rogers should be judged by the same stick. But Mississippi State looks damn strong. Grads to him, Bulldog fans out there. You should be enjoying this year because you're looking stronger and stronger. Maybe the LSU game ends up being a blip rather than the rule. We sell C, the rule. Get it?

Because we're going to talk about Matt Rule as it just broke a couple of hours ago. The Carolina Panthers have parted ways with Matt Rule. Now, we have talked about Rule. plenty already on this show. So you will know that I firmly believe in him as a college football coach. And I think we do look at all the jobs available. What are we up to now? Aaron, obviously, we got Auburn, Nebraska. Wisconsin would be kind of the big boys. Wisconsin feels almost semi-available in a lot of ways. You got Colorado, you got Arizona State, Georgia Tech. Did I miss anybody that's worth mentioning? I mean, there's going to be more coming out. But no, I think one that you've to throw in.

there because we kind of feel like it's going to happen. It's Auburn. I think it's inevitable. I think if they had a, like I've said in the past, if they actually had a, a guy that could run the program, I think they would be moving on already. But I would throw Auburn to that mix. I'm like 90% confident that they'll be moving on after the season. I think, you know what? Dude, I think I did throw Auburn in there. I didn't even realize that Frost isn't fired. I said Auburn and Nebraska's going to start and, Frost. I said Auburn, Nebraska's going to start. And Brian Harson is definitely. he's still employed i guess you're right i think we just both assume that we we both assume that we both assume uh

that harson's gonna be gone after this year let me put my light on there we go oh wait no it's in a fall let me try one more time all right so let's dive into it then oh look at that boys look at that there we go looking all nice and bright and shiny over here hey shout out to everyone hanging out the chat again if you like and subscribe to the youtube channel that helps grow the numbers and especially in the podcast front if you like and uh well if you subscribe the podcast feed and review it and rate it and send it to your friends that helps grow the show as well. Okay, so let's dive in there because look, we're going to talk Matt Rule returning to college. We're going to talk with the best team in the country is. We're going to talk about

Oklahoma, which it's bad. It is really, really poor right now. And well, we will get there. And then as always on Monday, we got our snips and snaps. Well, now as Matt Rule prepares to return to college where he will have no shortage of suitors. Allow me to shout out producer Ryan Brumley who has a very simple question here to rule for school and that is the question which school will finally land

that rule and if I've said it once Aaron I have said it a thousand times. There has never been a more perfect fit for the Nebraska job in its current state than getting the literal college football fixer

Matt rule. He was awful in the NFL. I don't give a damn. This has nothing to do with college. I think there's a great tweet from Stuart Mandel when he says, the recipe for disaster is when colleges hire NFL coaches who have never coached in college. If the guy won big in college before going to the NFL, he's probably going to win in college again. See, Nick Saban, Steve, Steve Spurrier, Bobby Petrino, Jim Harbaugh, Chip Kelly. And granted, as Stewart says, Chip might have taken a while. Aaron, all these guys, ones who had great success in college, go to the NFL fail. Now, when they went back, they immediately resumed their great success in college.

Is Matt Rulworthy of being mentioned and given the benefit of the doubt of the guys on this list? Well, he's going to have to go up and prove it. But yes, if you look at the track record and see what he's done at his previous stops in college. And yes, he is the guy that will build a program. He went from two wins to 10 wins in his third year at Temple. He went from one win to 11 wins and a Sugar Bowl appearance in his third year there at Baylor. So the track record in college is there. Yes.

And we've seen plenty of coaches try to make the jump from the college level to the NFL. It's a better lifestyle. I think the money actually is probably a little bit better in college, but you don't have to do all the recruiting, all the BS stuff that goes to college. It's nice. Like if I was winning coach, I would prefer to go coach in the NFL, then I did in college, especially in today's game. So there is that want to get to that next level, that next challenge, but it's not easy to do, especially at a place like Carolina that has struggled to find a franchise quarterback.

And what do we see in all levels? Like, if you don't have a quarterback, and that's one of my possible snips later in the show, if you don't have QB1, you're going to struggle at every single level. And they have yet to find a quarterback there at Carolina that can get him over the hump in that conference. So it's a problem. But no, when you bring him back to college or if he does decide to come back to college as I anticipate him doing. He's he's going to be the first pick for most colleges.

And I would kind of give him that my first go. The question to me is, does he, does he want to get back in it right away? Is he, is he interested in Nebraska or Wisconsin? I don't, I think Wisconsin is going to go with the guy they have right now on staff, honestly, unless things just go to complete crap throughout the year. If Auburn opens, is that something that Georgia Tech? He is in a position right now that he doesn't have to just. just jump back into college today.

He's going to get $40 million from Carolina. So money's not an issue. Obviously, Carolina is hoping he goes somewhere because everywhere, you know, essentially if he gets paid at a university, that money is going to get taken away from what he'd be being paid from the Panthers. So he can sit back. He can go do TV. He can go to, you know, be an assistant with saving.

He can do whatever the hell he wants and just wait for the perfect opportunity. So will he get an offer from Nebraska and Georgia Tech? in Auburn in Wisconsin, if Wisconsin wants to go that route, most likely. But if I'm him, do any of these jobs really scream, come get me? Like, I don't know, especially Nebraska. Like, why would I, why would I go to Nebraska? Like, I don't know if I would want to go to Nebraska. I would rather sit out of here on a thing, go to Nebraska.

The, the big 10 West is winnable right now. And it's more relevant than a job like Arizona State. right like okay so when I when I rank these jobs I'm going to throw Auburn in here again so I apologize to Auburn fans but uh like you said Wisconsin is Jim Leonard nope um Auburn and Nebraska, okay, those would be the two biggest jobs. It would be kind of lead dogs in this equation. Once we get past that, maybe I'm giving a rule too much credit here, but if you're looking at like Georgia Tech, Colorado, Arizona State, I feel like those jobs are beneath rule.

I don't think that Nebraska is beneath Matt Rule. In fact, I think it's kind of a perfect marriage. Nebraska right now is tied for first in the Big Ten West, despite being awful. I feel like the path to winning in the Big Ten, while not easy and certainly not getting any easier with USC and UCLA joining the conference, it is easier than taking the Auburn job. I mean, and let's get Auburn versus Nebraska. I don't know about that. I don't know about that.

What does Auburn have that Nebraska doesn't have right now? Auburn has like you can call Nebraska fan base or boosters toxic. I think they have kind of a lot of reason to be in a lot of ways. Auburns are significantly worse. You can say recruiting to Nebraska is hard, and you are correct there. I think that NIL helps maybe balance that out. And I think recruiting to Auburn's heart.

Like you said, you got Kirby on one side. You got Nick and the other. You don't have Lane Kiffin. You got Mike Leach. You got Brian Kelly, who feels bad, but it's probably really good. Like, none of that is there in the Big Ten. Why would you accept the madness of Auburn and the crazy expectations therein because they've played?

for national championships. Why would you accept those expectations when right now, if you would go to Nebraska and go eight and five, people would, people would throw palms in front of your feet as you walked across the cornfields. If you go nine and four the year after that, like, the, the bar of expectation is significantly lower. You will have full buy-in and monetary support from the boosters and from the school. And you don't have the giant, surrounding you on every side. I mean, Nebraska's like, like, like, like, like, you know, early 19th century Europe, everywhere they look.

There's just there early 20th. There's just enemies everywhere. So no, Auburn is like Germany. So no, I would not. I don't see Auburn being a better job at all. I just grab. I think Auburn is the better job. I think you talk about recruiting.

Yes, you got to go against Sabin in the state. You have to go against all these agencies. But we talk about the issues with Nebraska. Like, it's in the middle of nowhere. Like, it's just hard to get recruits there. at least Auburn, you know that there's a ton of talent in the southeast. And Alabama can't get everyone. Georgia can't get anyone.

LSU can't get everyone. And I think that there's a road to success. I mean, they've been the two national championships in the past 12 years. They won in 10. They're in, what, 15, 16, whatever it was. There is talent there. And you talk about the expectations being so high. And you talk about the fan base going to be kind of on his ass from day one.

I disagree with that, too. I think right now this fan base is just, looking to get anyone besides Brian Horson. Brian was not their first pick. When he got hired from Boise, say people like, who the hell is this guy? Like, he's not, he's not an SEC guy. He's not a guy that we know who he is. And there's been just a huge contingency of Auburn fans been wanting him out since day one.

Now of a sudden you get a guy in that role that everyone knows that has had success, that is coming from the NFL, that is a big time guy that has been, been, been the guy that's, that won at Baylor. and like I said at Temple, people know who he is. They are just so excited to move on from Brian Horson that that next guy is going to come in there is going to get the red carpet treatment. So that's why I don't think it's going to be like any old Auburn job

where people are going to be on his ass from day one. He's going to get, let's saying like it's going to be easy going. Like, yes, there is a level of or a level of expectation at Auburn, which there should be. It's an ICC school. But they will give him leeway. because of the hatred for what's going on right now and for the hatred of the coaching staff

that is currently there at Auburn University. So I think it's a better job. Maybe I'm biased because it's SEC, but I think a guy like that too wants to be able to compete in the best conference in America. And right now, the SEC is that best conference in America. To me, Aaron, it's a worst job because of the SEC factor. So we're interpreting the SEC factor completely differently here.

Because to me, sure, you can say it's more prestigious, but to me, it just reeks of way shittier, like in terms of like trying to achieve wins and achieve wins early on. Like why would I, if I, if the two schools are going to pay me the same amount of money between Auburn and Nebraska, why would I go willingly to the division of the conference again

that features Nick Sabin, Brian Kelly, Mike Leach, Lane Kiffin, I mean, even Sam Pittman's feeling a bit frisky, even though Arkansas stock maybe down over the last few weeks. Like, where is the bad team? There's a reason why their coaches come to this conference, Bob, too. Like, yeah, for money.

You name all these elite coaches in the SEC way. Yes. There's a reason why they come to this conference. Yes, the money. Yes, the status, the exposure, being in the SEC. Like, that is why, like coaches want to come here. Better resources, better fan bases. The challenge of being.

in this conference like you understand like these are a bunch of alphas like these head coaches they believe that they are the shit they believe they can take over any program and turn into a winner and there's no better feeling than being at a place like alburn and and having success knowing that you know right down the street is alabama nick saving like that is a challenge that these guys want to accept like your make is it easier to go to new brashka and have success probably i'll give you that yeah but do these coaches want the the easy path i think they want the Well, I'm sorry, Aaron. They won the challenge.

I'm sorry. I interrupted you there. No, no, no. I guess my, my counter would be, you're right. They don't want to take the easy path, but our brains can justify things, right? And we can logic things out. And by no means is Nebraska still the easy path? Like you said, it may be less tough than joining the SEC West,

but that's because the SEC West just looks like maybe the toughest half conference to ever join at any time right now in terms of resources in terms of the head coaching quality in the conference. But like I get if I'm at rule, like the Big Ten is still plenty hard. And like I can take pride in knowing that I had to go toe to toe with Ohio State and everybody else. And if you do have success in Nebraska, I mean, look, since 20s since Nebraska has not had a winning record since 2016. They're working on six years now of being under 500. 17, they were 4 and 8, 4 and 8, 5 and 7, 3 and 5, 3 and 9. They've gone 19 and 37 over the past few years, dude. They're desperate.

They're desperate. And you know what? You talk about fan-based buy-in and money and Lincoln is in. They never left. Like the fans never stopped going to the game. And I know the sell-out thing maybe a bit massage because, like, they have rich people that will buy up the tickets even if maybe some people aren't going. But it doesn't matter.

There's still a culture there that you cannot just recreate anywhere. You cannot manufacture it. Miami's trying to manufacture. They can't get it done at all. Okay. It's all there, Nebraska. They just need the right man for the job. And as I've said, a thousand times before, he is the wolf from Pulp Fiction.

And right now, Nebraska's brains are splattered all over the back of the car. And they got to clean this mess up. And they got to get somebody to fix the problem. And it is Matt Rule, the man who fixed Temple, but more importantly, the man who fixed Baylor. Pre-transfer portal, post-scandal, had a roster decimated by attrition, people leaving, and went from, what were they? One and 11 in year one to then 7 and 6, and a Texas Bowl win in year number two. And then, of course, the 11-and-2 regular season where they played for Sugar Bowl, but he was gone. So if you're Auburn right now,

And I know you are set on Nebraska. I'm set in Auburn. If I'm Matt Ruhl, who I want to go with. But if you are Auburn, though, and you're going to go after one of these two coaches, who do you want more? Do you want Matt Ruhl, who's proven? Who we've hit on his resume?

Or do you want Dion? Who would you rather have? Because we know that the job's going to be open. They're going to go after both those guys, most likely. which one would you prefer if you're albert and that may answer the question where matt will may honestly end up if this is all if he decides to come back this year like once again like if i if if you had to say aaron put put put put a hundred bucks on does matt rule coaching college football next year i'd probably say no i i think he honestly will take the year off kind of see

the landscape see where everything is is going to continue to shift when it comes to conference relignment and and where the money ends up with certain conferences in the big 12 or at cc this that and the other like there's nothing wrong with him right now sitting on the money that he's going to get paid from the carolina panthers and saying let me just catch my breath and figure out what the hell i want to do because is nebraska or albren really the best it's going to get when there may be better jobs next year i i just don't i honestly i don't love either destination if i'm going to be honest so if i'm in his shoes i'm sitting my ass out i'm going to enjoy i'm going to go i'm going to go like our boy go coach ogeron i'm going to go down to miami i'm going to work on

I'm going to have some drinks. I'm going to enjoy life and then figure out afterwards. I mean, let's be clear. If I was in his shoes, y'all never see my ass again. Later, dude. Like, I'm just going and buying a lot of land with very fast internet. And I'm going to live on my compound and just talk to the people that I want to talk to. And you know, I'll probably just keep doing snaps because this is fun and super easy.

And I love hanging out with everybody. But yeah, you would not see me again. So maybe so. I think Aaron, I think you raised a very good point. After being, and so it's funny, the past five years, Nebraska has a 33 win percentage. The past three years, Mavreux has a 29 win percentage in the NFL. That kind of extent of losing is physically and mentally draining. So a year off would make all the sense in the world.

I think the only way that doesn't happen is whatever team, whatever college is pitching him, right? the same way that Brian Kelly was sold by Scott Woodward on the idea of taking the LSU job. And obviously a ton of money is key in this, like we said. But the same way in which you sold Brian Kelly on eating all the shit for leaving Notre Dame to take that job. You just got to sell Matt Rule on, look, you know, we obviously can't wait. This is the year. Our job is open. And you are the man.

And here is why. Can you sell rule on it? It remains to be seen. Hey, Teab, I want to go to chat real quick. Brian 9451. I just want to make sure he understands that. I think Auburn is the better job. I think Nebraska is easier in the sense of the conference.

Teabob alluded to it. Like you look at the big, you look at the Big Ten right now, and you look at the Big Ten West. Look, it's Illinois, Purdue, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Iowa, North Western. Like, tell me a beast in that conference. Illinois is the best team. I like a lot of those teams. Big Ten West right now.

Yeah. Okay. I mean, but it ain't the SEC West. Like that, so Brian, that's what we're saying. Like right now,

all the power in the Big Ten is in the east with Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State, Maryland's playing well. Like the West is a complete, I'm not going to say joke, but once again, Illinois is the best team in the Big Ten.

So that's, that's saying. Nebraska is tied for first, Aaron. Nebraska is tied for first in the big team. You look at SC West, Alabama, Ole Miss, LSU, Mississippi State,

Auburn, A&M, and Arkansas. So that is what we're talking about. Like what? It's just a little bit easier road back to success. If you get the ball rolling just because you don't have to face these. He's essentially giants in the toughest division of any conference in America. Yeah. Yeah.

And so we will see. We will see funny Auburn has inspired their coach. But, you know, hey, some things like Thanos are inevitable. You know what else is inevitable. Oh, yeah, go ahead. I mean, I kind of feel like, you know, I like a hell of a sec way going. But, you know, I apologize. I just, you know, the people that we had some smart people in this chat.

Cody, I want to get a big shot to Cody. I'll believe it. Says he's going to sit out and wait for Jimbo to get his ass fire to be the new A&M coach in a year and a half. I don't. I don't love that because unlike our producer Ryan Brumley, I am intimidated by Matt Ruhl. I think that rule is a very good college coach. I think he will be a very good college coach. At this point, I'm kind of hoping for Jimbo to hold on.

I'm kind of rooting for him to do just enough to maintain that A&M job. I still think that A&M is a sleeping giant until it isn't, right? And I'm not sure that Jimbo is going to be the one to figure out how to wake that beast up. And so I really don't want to give anybody else the opportunity just in case they are. Ah, yes, Monday. another bittersweet end to a wonderful weekend of football. And we want you to end the NFL week the correct way. And that's on Monday Night Football with Fandle,

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now the rankings are starting to change it a little bit right we saw georgia jump alabama now alabama is down to three uj one ohio state two but ohio state's the favorite on fandle sports book ohio state also now number one in the s and p plus right to like the predictive analytic measures the machines starting to be able to get behind ohio state as well uh it's very very very very very simple question, Mary. Outside or within the big three, the clear big three in the country right now,

who is the best team in college football? I'm going with Ohio State at the moment. And I said it last week, and I'll say it again. If I had to rank my one, two, three in the AP poll, it would be one, Ohio State,

two, Alabama and three, Georgia. I know Alabama looked like crap this past week, but I mean, Bryce Young wasn't there. They made some mistakes on offense that I guarantee if Bryce was playing in that game, they probably win that game by 20 plus points easily.

But you look at Ohio State at the moment, man, and there's just really no weakness. I mean, this is a defense that has made huge strides from last year, only giving up 15 points per game. Their offense is number one, the country scoring 49 points per game. And that's without their best receiver, Jackson Smith and Jigba, who's been banged up for the joy of the season, really hasn't seen the field that much. You know, when he's back healthy, this offense may take it to an even bigger level. which is just crazy to think about.

So when you look at offense, defense, and trying to find a weakness for Ohio State at the moment, it's hard for me to pick one out. And they haven't really haven't hate the meat of their schedule yet, and there's still going to be a lot for them to do, you know, Penn State, Michigan, we'll see how they look there. But right now, if I had to pick my top team based on, you know, where can I find out pick some holes?

I don't think Ohio State has a lot of holes. Alabama still has some issues. You know, once again, a lot of penalties. We saw it versus Texas. We saw it this past weekend. Their DBs have been suspect at times this year. Their offense and receivers are still a question mark. So there's questions with Alabama.

Georgia questions with their receivers as well. We haven't really seen guys that are explosive, guys that can make someone miss, someone that can take a top off of defense consistently. The defensive lines had trouble getting after the quarterback without Jalen Carter in the lineup. So Georgia's been a little bit banged up, just like Alabama.

When you get Jalen back, you get A.D. back i think you may see a better football team but right now ohio state's playing great football without their star players where george and alabama are playing not great football without their star players so that just tells me like they are a level above they're finding ways to continue to excel even without jason smith and jigba in the lineup so i like ohio state man i think they are just on a different level right now but i think one thing we did learn this weekend and what we've learned over the past couple weekends, none of these teams are invisible like we thought they were.

You know, after week one, what were we saying? Like, hey, no one's going to touch Georgia. No one's going to touch Alabama. No one's going to touch Ohio State. I think every single one of those teams right now could slip up at some point this season. It starts this weekend. Like Tennessee at home versus Alabama, we'll break it down later in the week. But I really like Tennessee.

I mean, Tennessee could be, they could be Georgia. They could beat, you know, they could beat Alabama. Like none of these teams are invisible. Uh, yeah, I mean, hmm, uh, it's a bit odd. There, there, there does seem to be a bit more blood in the water than there has in other years. Outside of Tennessee, I still find a bit of trouble maybe thinking who really threatens them. And that's just because Tennessee, especially when it comes to Georgia and Alabama, seems perfectly lined up to kind of take advantage where they're threatening a bowl, right? Where they're vulnerable.

Threatenable is not a word. where they are vulnerable. So like obviously, Alabama is like you said, they're secondary and even Georgia. Like Georgia's analytics when it comes to past defense and things like success rate are not near what you would have expected them to be

at the beginning of this year. So look, in terms of who is number one, there's no doubt that it just has to be Ohio State right now. I would say, okay, so Georgia had the close loss against Missouri. Alabama now with A&M. Granted no Bryce Young, but still some kind of flaws exposed,

even allowing A&M to get all the way down there at the end of the game with an offense that has been putrid was very surprising. And so Ohio State, while they have not really been tested, they have played similar teams relative to themselves, right? Like Michigan State feels like a bit of a Mizzou game for Ohio State. And guess what Michigan State was their closest game outside of Notre Dame? And it was 49 to 20.

Okay, like Ohio State has just handled everyone. So I think Ohio State, I still outside of Tennessee, I don't know, man, I still think it's going to be like the top three conversation to me feels a bit boring because I do think these three teams are going to be there in the end. And I think it's more of the chaos behind them that is fascinating to me right now, which makes college football so much fun and so special right now. and the chief chaos agent and all of this right now seems to be the emergence of Tennessee. The volunteers do the Orange Nation waking up. It's like we said on Saturday night snaps after dark. That's the real story of Saturday. It's nothing to do with LSU.

It's Tennessee being a top 10 favorite going into an imposing environment and just absolutely dominating wire to wire ahead of this Alabama game, head of an individual Georgia showdown to basically make a statement. And if they, no, no, no, this year is different. And with our all-out aggressive style, we are better positioned to just lean on and overwhelm, no matter who you will throw against us. And I can't wait to see what the hell is going to happen in Knoxville this weekend, dude. Well, listen, Tennessee, I think the one big thing, you know, for how bad their past defense has

been this year, ranking the 128th in the country, their rush defense has been great, giving up less than 100 yards per game, right around 89 points per game. and you look at their schedule right now, like what are, you know, they're not really facing any super scary passing attacks. I'd say that. Like Alabama is not the Alabama offense that we've seen for the past five years. I mean, they are relying, they are going to continue to rely on, on Gibbs running the football and kind of, you know, protect that passing game.

So that gives me confidence that you can maybe steal a winner versus Alabama this weekend. Kentucky is a team that's struggling both running and the football. throwing the football. I think Georgia, like I said, a little bit ago, is struggling, throwing the football down the field and then Missouri, South Carolina, Vanderbilt. So, you know, Tennessee this year for them, honestly, it's not a bad thing with your weakness being your past defense and in your strength being that run defense that's been clogging things up up front and absolutely dominate LSU, giving it, what, 50, 60 yards rushing this past weekend. So to me, if you're going to have a weakness in your schedule, and I've joked about

You don't want your weakness being a past defense, but you look at their, like I said, you look at their schedule and it's not that bad when it comes to teams that are throwing the football right now. So, I don't know. You know, call me crazy. I covered him a few weeks ago, but I'm, I'm sipping the Kool-Aid right now. I was with my brother-in-law yesterday. He played baseball Tennessee.

So he was rocking his Tennessee gear. And he's feeling himself right now. He's a little bit cocky. And I got like so many, I got so many, you know, family members right now asking me for tickets for that Tennessee game in November. It's going to be a big one in Athens. And so especially if they win this weekend. Yeah, I mean, I'm sipping the Kool-Aid as well, Aaron.

And not of the McKinstree varietal. Okay, no, I'm talking about that orange Kool-Aid, delicious flavor. Think about Tennessee's past defenses too. I think it's, I think this, this is a Tennessee team that is improving. Like, I have no doubt in my mind. They're gaining in self-belief. The defense is playing better and better. They're understanding rotationally how to attack teams on defense.

that all out attacking style on defense is starting to pay more and more dividends. Like yeah, that's why like, sure, Jane and Daniels those are 300 yards, but they were the emptiest damn 300 yards you've ever seen. Like they may allow you to gain in chunks, but they're counting on creating enough negative plays to make up for it. And okay, on the improving front, if I were to, let's say that Tennessee and Pitt played again today, Aaron, would that game go to overtime in Pittsburgh? have no doubt in my mind that it would not.

Okay. Sometimes you see this. The Auburn team that won the national championship with Cam Newton had a ton of close calls early on to SEC teams that were not that good. I think it was like Mississippi State might have been really close. Kentucky, I remember that year. They barely escaped. But what did they do with every win? They gained in confidence.

They started to know themselves better. And they got stronger. That's the rhythm and the bar graph that I'm saying. seen out of this Tennessee team. So does it sound crazy that I'm not that concerned about a past defense that's ranked the 129th or whatever? Yeah, it probably does sound a bit crazy, but that is where I'm at right now. And the great thing, if you're a Tennessee fan, you have the chance to prove it. You have the chance to prove it by beating Alabama this weekend, breaking the 14, 15 year curse, whatever it's up to now, maybe even 16 years in terms of the last time you beat them.

Like, your chance for salvation is this weekend. And it's, at home, go make it happen. And say college football from the big three, they are our greatest hope for some madness in this year of the playoffs. For how bad the defense has been against the past, I mean, they're only given up 17.8 points per game, T-Bobbs. Like, they're still finding ways to keep people out of the end zone. And you talk about empty yards, man, a lot of times that's what it is. Like, I went back and watched the USC versus UCLA tape before a show today and, you know, or not UCLA, UCLA versus Utah, excuse me. And Utah was throwing the crap out of the football, man.

I mean, just boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Then they scored 25 points. They lost the game big. UCLA found ways to get stops in the red zone. They found ways to get an interception in the red zone in the first half. Like Tennessee's finding ways to keep people out of the end zone. So yes, why it sucks to give up a ton of passing yards in an era where teams love to throw the football, if you can find a way to keep out of the end zone, it doesn't really matter.

So they're finding ways to win. You brought it up to you. I love their aggressive with banks as their DC. They're going to blitz you number four in the SEC with Sacks right now. It's a good football team. And you know that place is going to be rocking this weekend. I just wish my dumb ass would have put some money on it before it jumped down to seven because it was like 10.5, I think, on Saturday.

And I think now it's like 7, 7.7. And I think now it's out. Damn, damn. And, well, okay, so we're in agreement. Ohio State should be ranked number one based on what they've done right now. I mean, simply put Alabama and Georgia have looked vulnerable. But it is Tennessee that remains kind of the most interesting in this top 10 as they could be the one that shatters the monolithic nature of the playoff thus far.

One team that is used to being a part of that monolith, monolith are the Oklahoma Sooners. and they've been awful, Aaron. Let me lay this out for you because I don't know that I quite realize how awful the three-game stretch at Oklahoma just put the other. Like I knew it was bad, right? I mean, I made an entire deal last week on Kansas

about shitting on OU and how we were overvaluing them, but I didn't know it was this bad. So over the last three games, Aaron, OU has underachieved the spread by a combined 98 points. So that means if you look at, okay, let's say they were a favorite to win by 10

and they lost by 20, that's a 30 point under achievement, right? So the last three games, 98 points. Only four other times has that been done in the last 40 years. Two of those coaches were fired immediately after the season. One was not, he left after the following year,

and the other one went on to have two or three more mediocre years before being fired. And you were saying, oh well T Bob, those weren't first year head coaches. Okay. Well, if you look at first year head coaches that have performed as badly, Venable still finds himself in the top five of the past 30 years. Unfortunately, on that list, it's all a bunch of names that you won't recognize because those coaches went on to do nothing.

The point is that this is not a flash in the pan. Like this question, sooner or later, is Venable's done? this is not productorial overreach. This is not just us trying to generate heat. This is a legitimate question. Oh, you is very bad with very real problems

that could take a very long time to fix. And I would be feeling extremely uneasy right now if I was a sooner fan. Hell yeah, especially as you get ready to go into the SEC right now. I mean, we taught beginning of the season, like who's the team that's more? ready to jump into this conference the SEC and the feeling was Oklahoma like hey Oklahoma's had more

success recently Venables is going to get you know get things right all is fine there in Norman and now aside if you're an Oklahoma fan you're like hey can we make sure we don't leave this conference into 2024 because if Oklahoma joined the SEC next year they would be in deep crap like they're just defensively is an issue offensively you know you go from one being one of the best offenses in the country for the past five years to being, I think, ranked around eight or nine in your conference right now. We can score in about 30 points per game. There is a lot of issues. Physicality is a problem. You know, you watched the game for this past weekend. Texas beat them up up front. And you think Venables, you think physical defense. You think that style

will play. Like, hey, we're going to line up and beat your ass down. And Texas ran right through you. Texas offensive line dominated Oklahoma and made it look silly there throughout the football game. You know, I understand like, hey, your starting quarterback was out. Their backups aren't very good. I get that. But to lose 49-0-0 to get embarrassed in that game and that rivalry, I'm worried, man, one recruiting. I keep saying Texas is a better place.

Texas and Austin, Texas is better. It's a bigger brand. I don't, regardless of all the statutes you said last week, Texas is a bigger brand. And if Texas gets going, they will get the recruits a lot easier than kids wanting to go to Norman, Oklahoma. So yeah, I am worried right now if I'm an Oklahoma fan seeing the success of Texas, the excitement around Texas, the recruiting around Texas, and then knowing that you're going to be joining the SEC here in a couple of years.

Venables, uh, you know, he's done in the hot seat. Obviously, let's let's cool that down. It's his first year. Let's give him time before we start making these judgments. But, yeah, I think you want to fire him and bring that rule in is what you want to do. When you need to be fixed, there's only one. man to call dude it's the wall i do think i do think the question is though if if if they go this year because it's looking like that because the big 12 is a is a hell of a conference if they're six and six or if they're five and seven and don't make a bowl game which is is plenty possible and then next year they're still in the big 12 and and they have another average year inside the

big 12 before they go to the i cc do they make a move so i think now is the time of like You need that, that's the problem. Like schools with the money that's coming in with the money that they're going to get moving to the SEC, they will not be afraid to spend to get him out to bring in someone again next year. So now it is in people's mind. If he's not the right guy, we may need to make a move before we join the SEC. Yeah, I mean, it's so crazy that that's the timeline you could be on, but that actually feels very accurate.

Aaron, like two bad years, especially to school like Oklahoma, which I want to say, dude, I want to say Oklahoma's had five. I can't remember the exact stat. It's something like five losing C's like 100. You know, so just something insane, which is why actually I'm not so worried on the recruiting front. Like I get Austin is cooler than Norman, right? But Austin's been cooler than Norman. And the historical success of Oklahoma tells me that if you have the right guy,

I do think that you can win in any era. Maybe that changes in the NIL era. I don't see a change. but that would be the, you know, maybe I'm wrong, maybe it does. To me, it's just you've got to have the right guy. And so my fear is not of like inherent power of the program. My fear is Brent Fulnibals. Because if you ask me today, Aaron, will Brent Vinnables turn it around?

I will say no. And the reason being is that we've never seen, seen it before from him. And by seeing it, I mean, he's never been a head coach, right? This is not someone like Billy Napier who came up in a smaller school or everybody's shout out Lance Lypole to grind his way up in AIA to them Buffalo to them Fresno. I know it's not a great weekend after Washington gets upset, but Kalin DeBore do a nice thing. This is not someone like Lane Kiffin who had to go find his fortune again after being cast down as a smaller head coach before getting the big opportunity. We've never seen him. He got this is what this is what's so crazy looking back.

And I know that hindsight's 2020 here, Aaron, but how did a school in Oklahoma that has a literal top five college football history, hire a head coach who had never been a head coach before? You hire a head coach who's been a coordinator for 23 years. And even worse, for the majority of the success that got him this job, he was the coordinator at a weird bubble environment, Right? Like how replicable is the success at Clemson? It's a bit odd. You're in the ACC. You've got this kind of unique culture among a lot of the other big southern brands.

The timing of everything now with NIL coming in. I mean, was there a bigger red flag than him telling guys like, don't commit to us if you're planning on taking officials? I get what you're saying there, right? Like I get it from a humor perspective. You only have so much time in the day. If you commit to me, I want to know that you. you're in and I don't have to keep recruiting you and spending resources on you and everything, right? So I get it from a human perspective. I get why he would tell recruits that, but it does show, in my opinion, a lack of a stomach for the fight that is recruiting in this day and era, a day and age especially. So you've never been head coach. You're a coordinator of school that I think is a huge benefactor of having a bit of a weird bubble environment, a very unique setting that I don't

think is replicable. And now you're heading in to the ACC. I think, I think this is a disaster. Well, this is, this is why we go back to our conversation about when first time of the day, Matt ruled. Does he take a job this year? Is he take a job next year? And I don't know, man, the more I think about it in the timeline of it and Oklahoma wanting to have a big splash when they join the SEC, if this thing doesn't get right by next year, Oklahoma is not going to show up to an SEC with a with a back-to-back bad season with a coach that's that's on the hot seat like you want to show up to the SEC feeling good about yourself chest up high like hey man this is who we are ready to wreck shit not we're limping into this the premier conference in america so

matt rule matt rule for president that role for head coach oklahoma 2024 started right now oh i'm here you're saying okay yeah yeah i feel that actually i do feel that that would be pretty tight. No, I think Oklahoma in hindsight should have thrown like $100 billion at Lane Kiffin and just said F it and just gone all in on the lane train. Instead, they settled for Brent

Venables. And I normally don't like to be the reactive guy, but again, I don't know that we're being reactive here. I think there's real problems. All right, it's Monday, which means we're handing out some good, some bad. We got some snips and some snap.

Okay, you get it, snips are bad snaps are good. I'm going to start, Aaron, my favorite video over the weekend. I got to give a big snap. You know, they cost us a lot of money, so kind of screw them. But big snap to Shane Beamer in South Carolina. Here's a video. Okay, for those that don't know, at SEC Media Days, Mark Stoops, feeling all fat and cocky, going after Calipari and everything.

Shane Beamer had the viral video with the sunglasses, where they do the TikTok video, the dancing thing. and Stoops referenced it. And it was like, we don't need like glasses or music or whatever, blah, blah, blah, blah. Well, here is Shane Beamer after his gamecocks beat the Wildcats ass last Saturday. Make sure, hey, make sure we're classy in our post game with the media. All right. But at SEC media days, he talked about stupid sunglasses and dancing.

Come on. Oh, no. Oh, man. Brum, you could have let it keep playing for a little bit longer. Yeah, there's not like we have music copyright issues or anything. Oh, okay, okay, fair, fair, fair, fair. Good call, good call. I should have trusted your, uh, predictorial instincts there.

Uh, yeah, man, shout out, Beamer. That was awesome. I always love when somebody kind of, uh, sticks up to the bully. And Mark Stubbs thought he was bad and Mark Stubbs. Guess what? You've now lost two in a row, you bum. Well, my, I'm going to stay on the, uh, that, that similar storyline there. And my first snip of the day is going to be Kentucky football.

You're just not that good this year. And you've lost two in a row to Ole Miss. You lost to South Carolina. And you look at their schedule going forward, Mississippi State, and then at Tennessee next two weeks. All of a sudden you're looking at a Kentucky team that's been like, hey, man, we're the second best team in the SEC East. Like we're right behind Georgia and we are not a basketball school anymore,

this side and the other. You're going to be four and four. And most likely by the end of the season, somewhere on that 8 and 4, 7 and 5 record, unfortunately. And guess what? You may have a first-round quarterback at your disposal, and you're still an average team in the SEC. That is a problem, especially when Tennessee is rolling,

especially when Florida is in the rebuild mode right now, and you know they're going to get things right. You can't lose to those schools if you're Kentucky, because you're not going to win the recruiting battle against Tennessee. You're not going to win the recruiting battle against Georgia, against Florida, and maybe not against South Carolina either. So all of a sudden now, did Kentucky reach its peak and are they coming down the mountain? Is the question, especially if they lose the next two games, which is probably going to happen?

Sorry, I got very distracted by new username in the chat. I moved to California and now surrounded by a cult. That is all the username alone right there. All right, Aaron, my next one, I'm going to go a little snip, okay? And I don't know how this is not be talking. I don't know how this is not being talked about more right now. Tennessee cheated on Saturday, Aaron Murray. Have you ever heard of an electrophysiomagnetic pulse?

Have you ever heard of this? Yes. I have. Okay. Okay. Well, check this out. This is basically a pulse of energy that you can send out there that can scramble a human beings brain, brainwaves, right?

So this is from tiger droppings.com here. Okay, a reputable message board source. Somebody has started to do the digging. I can't get the SEC to investigate, but you can clearly see this huddle of Tennessee players right in front of Jack Bash as he goes to catch the kickoff. You're like, oh, yeah, that's just the defense waiting to come on the field. No, Aaron Murray, it's the offense.

Now, why is that? Why would it be the offense? Because they knew they were going to short kick it to that side. They were going to blast the pulse right as best. going to catch it and that they would get the ball back. It's ridiculous that the SEC hasn't done anything about this. I expect action by the end of this week, or I will be marching to that front door and banging it down.

Tennessee, you're too good. You didn't need to cheat. Okay, you're already good enough, pathetic, just absolutely pathetic. Big step. Salty, salty, salty tea, Bob from that asshole in the first Tennessee. That's a message board, Aaron. That's a message board, okay? That is true.

That has to be true. That's science. I'm going to give a little love real quick as science bullshit. My first snap of the week goes to UNC football for how piss poor they've been on defense this season. They're 5-1 and they're most likely going to win their side of the ACC and face Clemson. And what could be a hell of an ACC matchup? You look at both those teams and how they can score points. You look at UNC and their offense and their quarterback.

Who knows, man. is unc is there are they the team that finds a way to take down clemson later this season i'm not saying it's going to happen but you know what they're going to be in the conference championship game there's no doubt about it right now two and oh in the conference five and one overall you look at their schedule at duke versus pit virginia uh probably lose the wake force georgia and then they had to play nc state to finish the year off but unc man they are rolling high high with especially with their quarterback, Drake May, doing some some awesome stuff this season.

Shout out Drake May, dude. You're right. It has been kind of quiet for you and see. Like, after I watched him give up 7,000 points three weeks in a row, I kind of just stopped thinking about them. But hey, look at him now, dude. My next snap goes to the James Madison Dukes. That's right, the Dukies.

James Madison University entering the top 25, Aaron. the top 25, six weeks after joining the FBS. Kansas just got ranked for the first time since 2009. Actually, a little bit of a side snap here. Illinois, for on their big win, six to nine over Iowa. How about that? Illinois now ranked for the first time since 2011. Those are the two longest streaks in the Power 5 that were just broken.

It took James Madison six weeks. Nebraska hasn't been ranked in three years. How about this, Aaron Murray? there is one team in the country who is undefeated against the spread and I'm guessing you know who that is it's James Madison the Dukes I thought this was kind of interesting

Kansas is 5-0-1 Texas Christian 4-0 and 1 and then Kansas State Tulane and Texas are all 5 and 1 against the spread those have been some of the best gambling teams in the country thus far huge shout out to James Madison in fact last thing the S&P Plus

you know, the predictive analytic measure. Bill Connolly also does a combination measure called the S&P resume rankings. And these are supposed to be what a top 25 as we know it would be if the S&P system decided. And so it takes like your wins and losses into account. James Madison would be number nine on the top 10 right now.

It would go Ohio State, Georgia, Alabama, Tennessee, Ole Miss, which we all agree with, Michigan, TCU, USC, James Madison, then Clemson. At Tim. So shout out to the Dukies. They are amazing right now. All right. My last snap of the day goes to the Texas Longhorns. Quinn Ewer's back, and they look damn good.

49-0 versus Oklahoma. You look at Texas right now, possibly one injury away from being 6-0 and a top three team in the country. because if if you were stays healthy versus Alabama, it looked like they could have taken care of business versus Alabama. I guarantee they probably would have been in Texas Tech a few weeks ago. Six and O, you beat Alabama, you take care of business the way they did versus Oklahoma.

Could be a top, like I said, top two, top three team in America, but injuries are part of the game. Got to stay healthy, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I'll just tell you this right now. With viewers back at quarterback and with how well their defense is playing this season for the majority of the season, they look good they look I like them in the rest of their games versus iowa state oklahoma state kansas state tc u can'tasas uxas balear it's a hell of a schedule but in yours i believe man in

yours i believe yeah he ain't i mean we talk about an after dark he ain't scared of the he ain't scared at the stage dude which is like a lot of what you have to have to be that quarterback at that school and he seems to thrive on it um all right i got one more snap here and that is Mickey Joseph. That's right, dude. Mickey Joseph, interim coach of Nebraska, Aaron Murray, 2 and 0 in the Big 10, tied for the lead league in the Big 10 West right now.

And he won a one-score game. How about that? Also, how about this? This comes from a David Hale joint on Twitter. Aaron, sidesnap for the zombie powers of Scott Frost. three teams have beaten Nebraska this season. Northwestern, Georgia Southern, and Oklahoma. Those three teams are one and 11 following their Nebraska win.

Scott Frost may not have to be able to kill you when he's alive, but when he's cold and dead, that hand reaches out of the grave and it curses you. So actually, maybe a good sign for Rutgers that they didn't win. Because right now, whoever meets Nebraska ends up shitting the bed, okay? Side snap Scott Frost's zombie power. And that's it. That's it for a show. Okay.

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