The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Stafford > Rodgers?, Shedeur Will Start, Concerns About J.J. McCarthy, Where Does Mickelson Rank All-Time?

Episode Date: June 10, 2025

Colin is joined by John Middlekauff,, host of “3 and Out”! They begin by recapping Colin’s vacation to Europe and they discuss some of their favorite overseas trips (3:30)! They pivot to Aaron Rodgers becoming “weird” late in his career (11:00) and that leading teams to pass on him, compare his relatively short “prime” to some other all-time great quarterbacks (14:30) and debate whether Matthew Stafford could surpass Rodgers on the list of all-time QBs if he plays 2-3 more good years of football (18:45) They address the concerns coming out of Minnesota about quarterback JJ McCarthy and whether the Vikings could be in trouble at quarterback this season (28:00). They explain why they won’t be surprised if Daniel Jones beats out Anthony Richardson for the Colts starting job (32:00) and lay out their expectations for Sam Darnold in Seattle (35:00) Colin predicts Shedeur Sanders will be starting for the Browns by week 8 (38:00) and they discuss why “rich” doesn’t fix everything in the NFL(43:00). Colin explains why Bill Belichick’s very young girlfriend isn’t something that bothers him (45:00). Finally, they discuss what they like and dislike about the LIV golf tour (55:00), debate where Phil Mickelson ranks on the all-time list of golfers (59:15) and explain why Bryson DeChambeau has made one of the great pivots from “unlikeable” to “likeable” in sports! (1:04:00) (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) Follow Colin and The Volume on Twitter for the latest content and updates!  #Volume #Herd #3andOutSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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2, Watch Hill, Rhode Island, and golf for five. Lobster rolls. A lot of Titoes. That was a good 10. I squeezed every ounce of vacation I could. I feel pretty good. What was the best city? What was the best

and best meal? A best meal was Copenhagen. New and Dua. N-U-N-Dua. About six months old. Unbelievable. Everything was, I don't even know how to explain it. my son and I just sat there and couldn't believe how good it was, beginning to end.

I think London's amazing, but I like the activity of it. My mom's from there and watch hills where I spent my summer. So now I got my clubs in watch Hill and Chicago. So I'm starting to take golf seriously for the first time in my life. And I played like shit two days ago, but it was still, I hit just enough good shots to bring me back. you when you go to London do you walk everywhere or do you kind of everywhere no i lost four pounds on my vacation and went out to eat every single night we had one home cooked meal um on the grill but nine nights i went out to eat with my son or my wife or friends and that's usually a recipe

to put on weight but you know everything in copenhagen is fish it's that that's a pork and fish Mecca. So I strongly recommend I don't know how many days you have to be in Copenhagen. You ever been to a place that would be a great place to live?

Like Copenhagen would be an amazing place to live. It's not that flashy to visit it. It's just easy and fun. But to live there, you would bike everywhere. I told somebody on the staff today, I would lose 10 pounds. I'm 190.

190, 192 for the last, you know, 25 years. I would lose 10 pounds. and living in Copenhagen, I would live off coffee, great coffee, coffee, seafood, and biking. You bike everywhere. There's bike lanes everywhere. And it's just like part of life. It's like a small Portland, Oregon. Did you feel the future NFL division over there? Like it's going to really resonate with the people? Everybody in Copenhagen is from Copenhagen. They do like America. Mixed opinions on Trump, but they do like America. You know, Americans are such, I mean, the one thing you figure out pretty quickly when you go to Europe, Americans,

go to Europe, they pay a lot, they tip well, the Swiss and the Americans, and often the Chinese, have a lot of money. And, you know, European countries, you know, the Uber drivers and the hotel owners and the fish market owners, they make a lot of money off American. So every time I go over, I always asked, hey, what do you think about America? I'm not offended. And, you know, it's, you know, the people of every country are amazing. Sometimes our politicians aren't. So I, I, at, Everywhere I go, I feel like people are great. Food's amazing. Have you been to London before?

I've been to Spain. I've been to Italy. I've been to Amsterdam. I never went to London. I've never been. I've always wanted, obviously, the UK in general. Ireland is an area. I love golf.

Would love to go. So those are things that I need to check off the bucket list here. But when I went to, I mean, Spain, you know, Barcelona can be a little much. It's a lot going on. Yeah, it's just, it's just, it's. a lot. Now, I went when I was in my early 20, so it was fun. But I wouldn't need to go back to that. But you know, you go to some, I actually went for studied abroad for like a month when I was 21 years old in San Sebastian. Yeah, that's what my son just did in London. So I went

over and visited him. Yeah, he had a month class. Yeah, it's just an awesome, exactly. I mean, it's just, it's an incredible time. It was pretty cheap when I went. I can imagine, I don't know, what's the EU, what's the euro to, uh, dollar. ratio right now. How's that ripping? Is that like one to one? Not really. It's, it's, we get beat up a little bit. Our dollar's not particularly strong. But, you know, London's not cheap. Copenhagen's more reasonable. I, I just love going to Europe. And there's, there's a period mid-May until the first week of June, the tourists aren't there yet. So you can get every hotel. They don't jack the rates up. It's not too hot. I mean, I'm in Copenhagen, it's 69 degrees. I'm with my son. We went on a three and a half hour bike ride.

It's unbelievable. Like, we're just t-shirts on. It was just unbelievable. When you're back in Rhode Island in the summer, does it get like Philly or New York, that humidity like that, or is it cooler? It's funny, you asked that. So yesterday was a little sticky. So what happens in the summer in Rhode Island and a lot of the Northeast is you'll get, you start with a perfect day. Then the next day, it's really, nice with a little humidity. Then the next day it's really humid. Then a lightning storm washes it out. It's a great night. And then you go back to perfect, really, really good, really sticky thunderstorm. It's a three or a four day cycle. So yesterday it was a little warm. It was like 72 degrees, but a little sticky.

But you know what I do, man? I put on a hat, a little SPF 50, and I go for a walk and get a good sweat. So I don't mind it. I'm not anti- like southern humidity is different. and northeast humidity like Rhode Island, you're by a beach, you're getting a cold, you know, Atlantic breeze. It doesn't bother me much. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, maybe it's where we live. But I, I, I, I, my, it's, if you told me I retired with a condo in Chicago and on the

beach for four or five months in the summer in Rhode Island, go to Europe for a couple weeks, that's a good living. Well, how much easier is the travel now for you coming to Rhode Island, Chicago? It's a lot of shorter flight than coming all. the way across the country. It is the only, you know, it's funny, as people know, I've moved my operation to Chicago. And a big part of it was my wife and I spending a lot of time in Rhode Island in the summer because we bought an old home, we fixed it up, and we have really good friends there.

And it's close to an airport. It's also, you know, we try to go to London or we try to go to Europe once or twice a year. So it's just easy. You forget how far L.A. is from everything when you live in L.A. Like, it's the center of your universe. But I don't, my wife's not a big fan of Hawaii. she'd rather go to the Caribbean. So when you're in Los Angeles, you're a long way from Boston, New York, Europe, Miami.

Like, you're a long way from stuff. I never thought about it because when you're in L.A., there's no reason to do a, you know, you go to Mexico, L.A., Scottsdale, you got your good weather. But, you know, part of the Chicago move was just access to other places in the world and other places in the country that's easier. So, yeah, and I don't mind taking the train. I took the train home today. It's 29 minutes.

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Aaron Rogers got married. I saw he had a wedding ring on. And I was talking about this on FS1 today. In the last year, I've had a couple of buddies who are GMs in the league. And one of the lines I've used in my business for a long time is weird doesn't work. You can be, you can have an ego.

you can even be a little temperamental. You can make mistakes. But if you're weird, eventually companies will move on from you. And I had a general manager tell me, I was out with him about six months ago. And he said, Aaron just got weird. And he said, and there's a story that McVeigh passed on him. Kevin O'Connell passed on him. He was the Steelers' third choice.

And I was writing down a list today of the quarterbacks I would take over Aaron in the league. And there were 16 of them. including like Bo Nix. I'm not paying Bo Nix anything. He's more coachable. He's more athletic. He throws a fine ball. I think Aaron's just gotten to a point where I think Pittsburgh's about the only offer

he had. And reportedly, according to Scheftery, was their third choice. Yeah, I mean, I do you think it's pretty bizarre that he signs this contract, he's sporting a wedding ring? I mean, these quarterbacks, you know, who they're married to is kind of, I mean, they're pretty big stars, right? They're like actors, NBA stars. Josh Allen gets married.

We all know it. Not all these guys even married famous people like Josh Allen or Tom Brady. They're married to other famous people. Patrick Mahomes married to his high school sweetheart. Peyton Manning's married to a girl. I think he dated in college. Who cares? This whole thing of like I got things going on in my personal life,

which I assumed it was negative stuff. Turns out maybe he was just getting married and wanted to push this off. It's just kind of the, I've always been pro Aaron Rogers as a player because I thought he was incredible. You know, I thought in the peak of his powers, he's one of the best athletes in terms of their sport I've ever seen in my entire life, which is weird because when you look at the totality of his career, it almost feels underwhelming for how good he was. You know, I think he let down in the playoffs. I mean, they lost a couple years ago at home to Jimmy Garoflo and the 49ers offense. I think he scored 13 points.

That can't happen. But I think this whole since, because we knew he was going to go to Pittsburgh. It was just when he was going to sign. But that picture of him with the wedding ring is just a little bizarre. I mean, there's really no way around it, right? And you've been on this forever? Listen, as someone that got, I got married for the first time at 40 years old. Now, there is a, and a lot of my friends and my brother got married in their late 20s, early

30s, your life is dramatically different. You know, I mean, obviously then you have kids. It is a completely different lifestyle. And he's just kind of been in this weird spot. Obviously, also as a player, he's no longer the same. His mobility is gone. He's just not a dominant player anymore. You can argue Tom Brady had a 20-year prime.

A 20-year prime. Now, even though he was really good past 40, I don't really consider it maybe 41, and then the prime ended. But he was still through a great ball at 40. I'd give him that first year and a half in camp, I think he was pretty damn good. 20-year-prime.

People forget this. Aaron's last year in Green Bay, they played an average Lions team at home. and lost. And it was Aaron, I think it was Aaron's last, was it, his last game as a Packer. And he got outplayed by golf in that game, early outplayed. Aaron, so that year, if you go back statistically, Aaron was a B plus quarterback. He didn't play his first three years in the league, right?

He sat in the bench. His fourth year he started, he went six and ten. I can argue Aaron had less than a 10 year prime. I mean, because he hasn't done anything in four years. He didn't do anything the first four years. So, I mean, Aaron's prime was about half of Brady's. I'd give him 2009 to about 21, 20. I mean, he won the MVP in 21, 20 and 21.

Yeah, about 10, 11 years, max. Think about that. Brady's at 20. And I, and I, so if you really look at Peyton Manning's pride about 14. Usually, you know, I mean, Mahomes may be one of those 17 to 18 years. Aaron just, and I think a lot of it was just Aaron. I don't think he was as committed in the offseason. I think he wasn't, you know, I thought he was really good the year he went six and ten,

but I didn't think he was, I just thought he was talent and he wasn't a winning quarterback. But I think a lot of that is just, I've always been one of these people. I'm not impressed by people that get jobs. I'm impressed by people that keep them. Like I think there is a real skill to being LeBron James or Tom Brady. or Derek Jeter. And it's a commitment on nutrition, what you eat, sleep. And I think that's a skill.

I think discipline's a skill. Maybe people don't. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe mental health professionals would argue that discipline is, you know, it's not a skill. Anyone who says that not is a moron from the Navy SEALs to our athletes to our CEOs. What are they? 100% it's a skill. And I just look at Aaron's prime.

It's half of Brady. And you can say what you want, but that last year and Green Bay, he was a B quarterback, and he's gone downhill since. I mean, he's just a pocket guy now, and he's not even like an elite pocket guy. He's just a pocket guy. Well, I think when you look at his contemporaries, or definitely his peers over his career, because he came in a lot later than Peyton and Tom, he was way more physically gifted than those guys. Those guys couldn't run Tom and Peyton, couldn't run at all. I would say Drew Breeze definitely wasn't a mobile quarterback and he just had more skills. I mean, I would say Peyton and Drew Brees are known at best

average arms, right? They hung their hat on accuracy. Tom had the best arm of that trio, but those guys worked like they could get cut next year. I mean, everyone you ever talked to that was around those guys, they were discussed like they were Michael Jordan or Kobe Brian or Tiger Woods, their addiction to their craft and how much it meant to them. I do think Aaron really benefited a lot. I mean, Tom Brady goes to the Patriots. who sucked, right? Him and Bill turned that thing around. Payton went to the Colts who had the number one overall pick.

And Drew Brie's and Sean Payton showed up to the Saints that were known as the Ains. This guy went to the Green Bay Packers, who were a model franchise for 15 plus years before he got there. And I always think that like, listen, him and Devante, sometimes, you know, you kind of make up your own problems in your head when life's going a little too good. And it felt like those two guys, I mean, they have to look back after the couple of bumpy years of going, we actually had it pretty good. You know, it can be a little boring in this town, but we had a lot of success here for a reason. I'm looking up, Aaron, Drew Breeze's career from the first five years with the Chargers and then, you know, that 15-year run or whatever it was with the Saints. If I go back to Drew Breeze, a smaller athlete, you can say his first great year was 2004 with the Chargers.

So let me count these years. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, eleven, twelve, 13, 14, 15, 16. I would say Breeze had either 16 or 17 elite years. I mean, and I think Brady's 20 plus. So, and again, this isn't Bash Aaron. It's just when you go, and I've said this before to you, if Stafford won another Super Bowl, Stafford was better in college,

he was better early, he was much better later. If Stafford plays three more years, and under McVeigh, they would be good, they have, I mean, they've got their shit rolling. If he gets one more Super Bowl, you're going to look at Matt Stafford and you're going to look at Aaron Rogers and you're going to have to have a real hard conversation because that means Stafford's playoff record is going to be significantly better than Aaron Rogers, which is basically 500. People think I'm crazy when I say this. Stafford has more to gain legacy than any player in the league over the next three years. I will say this about Rogers when it came to Stafford.

He was one of his biggest proponents over the years. You know, when he was middle and away in Detroit, he's like, you guys don't realize. And obviously the football people held him in high regard, kind of got screwed that he got drafted to this franchise that. I mean, they're going to be kids right now in Detroit that have no clue how big of a joke that franchise used to be. I will say, I think Rogers kind of morphed a little more into like an NBA player, right? or like receivers off the knack than these quarterbacks. I mean, even Tom for a long period of time, just kind of shut his mouth,

kept his head down, dealing with Bill. I mean, Peyton, would he have ever gone to Denver if they hadn't cut him in Indy and he hadn't had the neck injury? He just would have played it out forever in Indianapolis.

So yeah, I just think Aaron, and part of it might be the nature of that franchise. You know, you've talked about this. A lot of people have over the years. There's no owner to really get involved and kind of calm everyone down.

Yes. Even just the basic of like, hey, you want to take my jet with your new wife or your buddies to wherever you want. Just the, you know, the Eddie DeBardo, Jerry Jones, the robber craft, like kind of taking care of you. There's no, that guy doesn't really exist. So I honestly think that those guys, and if I was a Packer fan, we'll see how the Jordan Love stuff plays out. But it's like, God, why did these guys make such a big stink? We could have kept it rolling for a couple years.

We have a really good coach. It's like, remember when he was having at odds with Goudicans? It's like, what do you actually mad about with him? Like, what did he do? You know, what are we talking about? And let's face it. His ego was really, really hurt with the Jordan Love draft pick. Well, looking back and there have been a lot of articles, so was Tom.

And what did Tom do? Went out and said, I'm going to dominate and win Super Bowls, and you're going to have to get rid of that guy, not me. Aaron kind of took the different tactic. Like, screw you guys, get rid of me. And obviously age, let's face it, in the history of sports, isn't Aaron's career parallel the most guys we've ever watched? Once you get to your late 30s, you get an injury, popped Achilles, and you're just never quite the same.

And then usually you go to these weird franchises or in this scenario, kind of a desperate one. I think they have a lot of guys from Cam Hayward to T.J. to Minka that are like serious cats. This has got to be like, wait, we had to wait for you. It's not like you're the greatest things since sliced bread here, buddy. Yeah, I mean, listen, I'm not, this, I think this year he'll winning eight or nine games, he'll have 23 touchdowns, 10 picks, he'll be fine, I'll miss a game or two. But it is interesting when you look back, I think Aaron views himself as picked on or marginalized by the media. And when you just start looking at Peyton's career and Ben's career and Breeze's career and Brady's career and Elway

and Marina, you just start looking at some of these careers. Aaron's Prime was just not as long. And some of that's he sat behind far, but I thought he aged really quickly. And you can speculate why he did, but he did. NBA Finals are here. This is your last chance to bet on the NBA until next season. Draft King Sportsbook, an official betting partner of the NBA, a finals to remember pulling out all the stops. One team's going to be crown champ.

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I thought he was a bit small. I thought he was athletic enough. Imo was very, very cautious when people say he's a winner. What the F does that mean? Doesn't mean anything. Danny Werfel was a winner. Every Florida coach, every Florida quarterback. Hebo.

Under Spurrier was a winner. Johnny Mansell was the winner. It doesn't mean anything. I always believe that if you look at most NFL quarterbacks, even Brock Prudy, who I don't love, they had to carry their college offense. Big Ben, Aaron Rogers, Philip Rivers, Eli Manning. You know, they're not playing with five-star guys. That's why Ohio State you think would have 10 great NFL quarterbacks. C.J. Stroud is their first really good one. USC's had very few great NFL quarterbacks. Alabama hasn't. LSU hasn't. LSU hasn't. Burrow obviously is, but he was a transfer. But J.J. McCarthy, his last two years, he threw the ball over 30 times one time. He never trailed. He had a great run game. And so I look at him, and Ross Tucker came out

with a story. And I think Ross is a very credible guy. I don't know him, but very credible guy. He said, listen, there's concerns. They wanted to resign Donald. And I heard the same thing, but because of my relationship with Donald, I wondered if people were telling me that. My source was telling me that because they knew I loved Donald. But they had said they actually want Sam. And I couldn't believe it. I'm like, no, you got, you drafted J.J. McCarthy. He has to play.

If Ross Tucker says there's concerns, I believe that. Do you? Yeah. I mean, I think that going back to that Detroit game when he was really skinny on the sideline, you know, at the end of the season after meeting multiple injuries. And I also think it gets back to the way in which he played. It was not a guy that had to carry his offense in college. He handed the ball off and they played defense and they had 30 NFL guys over a two-year span.

Right. I mean, look at Stetson Bennett was on a team that, you know, any decent quarterback could have navigated. And I think the concerning part is you have to massage this if you're the team. So it's like, okay, Donald gets 55 plus million guaranteed from Seattle. It's like, you can't. They were like, we're not going to give them that. I think they wanted to keep Daniel Jones. Remember, they made a big deal to bring.

him in on the practice squad last year. But then Chris Ballard starts sniffing around, hey, we'll give you $14, $15 million. So then they're thinking, well, how would this look if we match that or even give him a little bit more shows, tells everyone we don't believe. So they were kind of in a weird spot. I think they would have loved, you know, Daniel Jones markets only 8 to 10 easier to justify. What did you start getting once they gave Daniel Jones that money? I don't know where you stand on this.

I think Daniel Jones is going to be to start a week one. And that was before the kid heard his injury hit his shoulder. Oh, yeah, no, no, he was going to beat out Anthony Richardson. He's going to be the starter. I had an NFL GM told me he had never, last year, I texted him about Anthony Richardson. He goes, I've never seen an NFL quarterback that bad on accuracy on shit out in the flat. And those were the exact words. He goes, the layup stuff is brutal.

He is badly missing layups. And so I thought Daniel Jones would beat him out in camp. Well, to me, what it is is a couple years ago, Trey Lance, it was over the moment they signed Sam Darnold as the two. And then Trey Lance wasn't even on the team. It might be harder to trade Anthony Richardson because of the injury. But I think this team's in a weird spot. They're all in on this roster. It's excellent.

And they loaded up because they had J.J. McCarthy's rookie contract. They bought a bunch of guys in free agency. So their team, if you told me they just had, Dack Prescott was their quarterback. I'd be like, well, if he just doesn't turn it over in the postseason, this team's going to be tough. You put Brock Purdy on there, Super Bowl favorites, right? But this guy's never started an NFL game. And even going back to, remember Harbaugh was suspended and Sharon Moore.

They didn't even pass the ball in the second half against Penn State. It was a special team that he got to, you know, orchestrate and run as a quarterback. He was not asked like most of these quarterbacks in 2025. So I'm very concerned because a lot of times also young quarterback, like Caleb got drafted number one overall. It went shitty. But ultimately it's like, okay, you know, the Bears hadn't made the playoffs. The expectations for this team, they just won 14 games. If they won like nine games and missed the playoffs, it would be catastrophic.

There's a lot of pressure on a guy. I don't remember the last time a guy that was drafted this high was like expected anything less than the NFC. championship game. It gets to the Trey Lance and Anthony Richardson. Obviously, Trey was on a team that was expected to compete for the Super Bowl. So it's different than just going to a team typically drafting in the top five. The Colt, same thing. Like you draft this guy in the top five, he's expected to be a playoff level quarterback. That's different than just going to some crappy team. Like ultimately, Jaden Daniels, who was incredible, the pressure on them to start the year wasn't that high, right? If they would have won six, seven games, he exceeded everything. Same thing with

CJ Stroud a couple years ago. But they got to kind of sneak up. up on everyone. There's no sneaking up. Minnesota is, I would say, one of the marquee teams in the league coming into the year. It's a tough spot for a young player that's like, what if week two we're down 10 and we're going to need you to throw it 45 times? And then all of a sudden, Justin Jefferson's not getting the ball. We know how those wide receivers are. I wouldn't blame them. I'd be like, what's going on here? Yeah, no, I think it's a real thing. And I, and again, I was a big Jaden Daniels, Caleb Williams, Drake May, Bo Nicks. I think, Pennix is a bigger Tua. The one that never worked for me with J.J. McCarthy. It's also interesting

is, what if Sam Darnal pops? What if Sam, and my guess is Sam won't be as good as he was in Minnesota. He doesn't have, you know, he doesn't have D.K. Metcalf and the receiving group won't be as good as Minnesota, and you're not going to have Kevin O'Connell. So Sam's numbers are not going to be the same, but I actually think Seattle's roster's okay, probably a weaker division. What do you expect? I mean, I think Darnel will have a B season. He had an A season with an ugly, ending bad final chapter, but that was an A season. I mean, in week 15, we were talking MVP. I don't think we're talking that. I think he's going to be a better, more athletic, younger version of Gino Smith. What do you think? Well, Kubiak, remember early on in the season last year

before injuries really came up, the Saints looked awesome on offense. So it's like that offense works. It's easy for quarterbacks. And Sam's already done it two years ago when Kubiak, who's the offensive coordinator now in Seattle, was the quarterback coach. offensive coordinator with Kyle and San Francisco. Their defense act, little teaser here, I think we're going to play it next week. I had John Schneider on the podcast today. We recorded a podcast.

And I was looking at their roster. They actually have a lot of young, impactful guys on defense. They've drafted pretty well on defense the last couple years. And Mike McDonald, if he coached offense instead of defense, I think we would be talking about him like a Kyle. They went 10 and 7 last year. It's not like they won four or five games. So why couldn't they go 10 and 7 again?

and he's just on a capable, they're just a well-run franchise, right? Schneider brings that Green Bay, McDonald's from Baltimore. The Ravens, obviously, the Pete Carroll influence. They're just a well-run, stable operation. They're not going to suck. You know, he's not going to look completely overwhelmed. Obviously, in the biggest moments, it was a little concerning last year, but they're not trying to probably try to win 1450.

I mean, ideally, they would love to. But they're going to be, I'd be stunned if they're not over 500. And it's not going to go poorly. And there's no way what he just did last year in Minnesota. It's impossible. JJ can't do that. I mean, through 35 touchdowns. So my question is can he throw like 24, 25, not turn the ball over, and they just have a really well-rounded team.

Kind of like a Jimmy Garoppolo, San Francisco situation of like 2019, 2021. That to me is the best case scenario. But that's not easy to do, right? I mean, you're in a division that's really good. Their schedule this year at the NFC North, who they're playing is, really hard for all four teams. Obviously, the divisional games are going to be knocked down dragouts. I mean, one thing they really did early on with Sam is, remember, they were blowing people

out early, like the Texans, the Niners. They were killing people. So they just, they got to kind of got off and running. They were like five in one, just kicking everyone's ass. It's a different level of pressure. The other thing is the health-wise. I mean, this is a guy that got injured in training camp and then needed another surgery. That's can you take NFL hits?

what's he going to feel like on a week in, week out basis? Is he going to be available for 17 games? I think there are just a lot of question marks when it comes to just I think he's one of the bigger stories in the NFL. Just what is this guy? Is he any good? Is he good enough?

I mean, how good is he? I said today, the two stories in the NFL at quarterback that are fascinating are what is J.J. McCarthy and who will win the Brown's starting job? because so tomorrow, or the time this airs, it's mandatory minicamp. This is not voluntary OTA, so veterans can show up. And my argument is this owner, Jimmy Haslam,

drafted Johnny Mansell and Baker-Mayfield and signed to Sean Watson to an egregiously bad contract. He's desperate for a star at quarterback. He wants a star at quarterback. Well, Kenny Pickett's got no juice. Dilling Gabriel's 5-8. Joe Flacco's old. Shadour is the only potential star.

And if you look at the first five weeks, it's five top ten offenses, then Aaron Rogers in Pittsburgh. And it's a lot of dynamic offenses and dynamic quarterbacks, Joe Burrell and Lamar Jackson. And again, Tua and Mike McDaniel, there's a lot of powerful offenses. If they're dull in the first six weeks, because they don't have a very good roster, they're probably a four to six-win team. My take is Jimmy Haslam's going to make a call and say, I want Shadour Sanders.

History tells me this owner, we've seen this. We saw the late great Jim Ursae get pissed off because Carson Wentz had a bad game in Jacksonville, and they shipped him out of town after a 27 and seven season, a 27 touchdown seven-pick season. Carson Wentz, that was his last good year. I think Shadur, the star power will matter. In 90% of markets, it doesn't. Cleveland at quarterback, it does. So my guess is, there's a lot of. a dull, small, old.

Chador by week eight is starting. Do you think I'm out of my mind? Well, you're on board. I know you've been making, you know, tongue and cheek. Flacco's going to start week one, right? Are you on board there? Okay. If it gets to a point, the team's not going to be very good.

You know, the defense can only carry you so long in the NFL. It's an offensive league now with the rules. If they force him to start Shador Sanders and the coach doesn't want to play him, I do think Kevin Stefansky by the end of the year will just quit. It'll be one of those situations where Stefansky and Barry, who are very highly thought of, and I was actually in the car today. I was listening to your show when you gave me a little shoutout

talking about how it was clear during the draft, right? They draft, they overdrafted Gabriel to keep the owner off their back and then the kid kept falling. And then he made them draft. I think it's true because I asked GMs about Dylan Gabriel. And they're like, he's not a third round draft pick. I thought, I knew people that thought the guy was undrafted because of his size. Not that he's not, I mean, he was an excellent college player and I mean, very productive.

But going in the third round, I think, was a jarring move for a lot of teams. Like, wow. And I truly believe they did it. And if the visuals of the owner hovering over him, but he was there in the fifth round, I do think it's, you have to make plays in practice. I mean, they do have some, you know, the Miles Garrets and these guys that are playing every week. the NFL. It's not like some of these other sports in baseball or basketball where you kind of go through the motions. Even if your team is out of it, you still like practice is hard. The games are hard.

So if you make a guy the starter, he better be showing something, especially if he's running the scout team. I remember when Purdy became the starter when Jimmy Garoppel and Trey Lance went down, it was easy to justify to the team because the Fred Warner's and the boasts were like, we love this guy in practice. We've been seeing him. It goes back to the Rogers and some of these guys that run the scout team. they earn street cred with the team. And I do think you throw a guy like that in. The coach and the GM wouldn't just be behind the scenes like, what are we doing?

The team could quit on you. But the owner is proven that he doesn't really care. I get asked a lot, like, how can these owners be so successful in whatever line of work they do and then such bad owners? And I do, you know, the thing with football that's different than just running a trucking company or TEPR in an investing firm, You can just buy your way out of stuff once you get so much capital and resources.

In football, like everyone, the salary cap is salary cap. You only have a limited amount of draft picks. And once you invest in a couple guys, like they do get a huge piece of your puzzle. Right. Like in Flying J, if you buy the wrong building, whatever, 10 million or I write off off to the next thing. And football, like some of the, like they got rid of Russell Wilson and Denver. It really crippled their cap immediately. Right.

So you can't just buy your way. out of stuff, regardless how much cash the owner actually has in its pocket. Well, Elon Musk is finding this out with government. Government's not a business, right? Like, yeah, I mean, the bottom line between Medicare and Medicaid and veteran benefits and Social Security and military spending, 90% of our budget, there's not a lot of tweaking. You got about 10% of the budget you can toy with. So Elon Musk comes in and says, I'm going to get rid of $2 trillion.

Bro, if you can get rid of $600 million, you've done it with Doge, you've done a remarkable job because so much of it's baked in. It's the same way in the NFL, you've got to pay a left tackle, a quarterback, an edge rusher, at least one legitimate corner, two weapons. You have to hit on draft picks. Like if you don't have a draft picks, if you have a bad interior old line, you can't pay for it. That's why, you know, Chicago now is loading up on Joe Tunney, Jonah Jackson, Drew Dalman. It's like, they can't do that in two years or three years with Caleb Williams. You just, you're just limited. There's a certain structure of our government and a certain structure in the NFL, rich doesn't solve everything.

Yeah, and when you're missed on the quarterback as they did, you're just screwed. Right. If I flip-flop Joe Burrow from the Bengals to the Browns and give them to Sean Watson, the Bengals are a two-win team and the Browns are in the playoffs. Right. It can just be that simple. And I think a guy like Jimmy Haslam clearly hasn't learned his lesson because everyone thinks that he forced to Dor Sanders on them.

Even I saw some visuals of David Tepper. these owners are just, it's like their pet project and they're sitting there in the draft room that they can't help themselves. And it's why the best owners, honestly, they just, you pick the player. I know nothing about football.

I just want to enjoy it, make the money. I'm empowering you. And that's the thing with the Browns. Like, their GM is highly thought of around the league. I think most people think Kevin Stavansky really sharp, impressive offensive mind. It's hard to operate with an owner hovering over you and making you do things.

I also think it's a weird spot for Shador. Like his skill set doesn't have a huge arm. I think there are a couple divisions when you have, like look at most quarterbacks that thrive in the NFC and AFC East and the AFC North. It gets freezing cold. The wind pumps Chicago like Caleb Williams, Jay Cutler. You're not going to have a week. Andy Dalton's not going to have success there.

Go back to New York. Eli Manning, big arm. You know, Tom Brady, it's cold. It's hard. Like, that's not, to me, if he would have gone to a dome team, I think it would have been better. I do think it could be difficult playing in those environments, but I'm with you.

Like, do I like him as a prospect better than Dylan Gabriel? Hell yeah. I do think, though, when you get these dynamics of like, well, the coaches in the GM want to do this, the owner wants to do this, things just get weird. In any walk of life, I mean, in any profession. And I think that they're already the push and pull.

Dion's chiming in. We haven't even started. This thing is going to, once Flacco, week three, they're O in three, throws three picks. No one's, there's not a fan in the. world that's going to want to watch Joe Flacco take another snap after about September. So where do you land on this? I read a story in the athletic about Jordan Hudson in her life. I've never been bothered. She's, you know, hot girls are undefeated. She's great looking girl,

Jordan Hudson. Belichick's an older guy. I'm trying to think if I, because I'm 60, I'm thinking if I was 70 and either I was divorced or single and I still was a vibe. 74. He's up there. But he's still viable in his business, right? I'm not going to be. that viable in 15 or 14 years. And I knew social media mattered. And I was attracted to somebody. Like, I get where she's sort of his social stockbroker, his social muse. Like, he knows in the NFL, he didn't need it. So he kept that relationship undercover. In college, he looks at it and thinks, oh, it's beneficial. I mean, he has his kids on his staff. He's got Lombardi's kid on his staff. Like, Bill takes care of who helps Bill. Like, he is very loyal to certain people.

Dante Scarnicca, he would have kept him until the last day of his, you know, another eight years. Dante Scarnicke is like, I'm done. So my take is the Jordan thing is they're both using each other. She's ascending with some money and some real estate and profile. He has a social muse, and I'm sure there's a, you know, there's something physically in it for Bill. I'm not bothered by it. I mean, I'm just not bothered by it. So let's start with that.

just as a guy, a recently married guy, has your wife talked about it? I think women are uncomfortable. I'm just not, I just, I get what it is. Yeah, I think her and her friends make fun of her more than him.

You know, I mean, she's much closer to their age than they are to him. I saw the article today on the, the breakdown in the background of Jordan Hudson. I refuse to click. I'm like, I do not care.

I do. I saw a clip about how the way she grew up. Didn't she grow up in Maine or Rhode Island or somewhere and like her interactions with relationships taking advantage? It's like this is like an in-depth profile and like a draft prospect. What are we talking about? You used to have the thing undefeated with men or the two things, the downfall are money and women.

And he's not the first. He definitely won't be the last, a rich guy dating some young girl. I do think it becomes a lot more. And he's also when it comes to coaches like in college in the pros that are have side girlfriends that are have or divorced and dating women way younger than them like I it doesn't I don't I truly do not care but I from a you I mean look at he used to work for Robert Kraft whose wife died and he was immediately with someone in her 20s and they

had a baby like that so it's like you know obviously NFL owners who are older aren't all just happily married to other women that are their age especially where where Bill came from. But I do think the college element to North Carolina, which is, I would say, blends like, do you think a comparison to like a UCLA? There are better athletic UCLA of academics and athletics. Yeah. It's, this isn't Ole Miss, right? This isn't Mississippi State. This isn't Arizona State. This is, this is a pretty serious institution operation. I can imagine they've been a little uncomfortable with that. But at the end of the day, when the season comes, and if he's 10 and 2 and they're good, no one's going to care. And I think this got away from a little bit.

I don't know. Maybe I'm out of touch. I'm not that interested anymore. At first, interested, the CBS interview, it was all a little bizarre. I'm not pressing click on any Jordan Hudson breakdowns. I truly do not care. I mean, I just don't. I'm okay with that.

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They run a lot of second-tier tournaments. And my take is, I'm loyal to the NFL because the NFL encompasses all teams, all owners. It is the foundational piece of the league. same with the NBA or Majority Baseball. The PGA essentially was a charity to get a tax break. And I was more loyal to Augusta and the U.S. Open at Pebble Beach, Tiger Woods, Phil, Brooks Kepka. I was always loyal to the golfer, not the golf course of the PGA. Now, Augusta's different.

I'm loyal to Augusta. And I'm also loyal to every U.S. Open at Pebble Beach. Outside of that, I'm not loyal to courses, and I'm not loyal. I was never loyal to anything. So when Liv Golf entered the fray, my take was, well, if they have the more interesting golfers, I'll watch those golfers. And that's what's happened with me, is that I've seen multiple PGA events where I don't think they have a good enough field. And so as you watch this weekend, Phil Mickelson obviously had the shot of the weekend. But as you watched it this weekend, what was your takeaway about the quality in the field of the Live Tour?

Well, I think, I mean, they have two of the best four or five players in the world. And, you know, I would say Bryson has transcended through just sport to now culturally. I mean, YouTube, he's a gigantic star on YouTube as well. He's just a unique personality. And he is an absolute ass kicker. I mean, he's now, Rory did not play well last week in Canada. Bryson is currently the second favor right behind at Scotty at 8 to 1 to win the U.S. Open.

the defending U.S. Open champion. John Rom, who had not played well for like a year and a half in the majors, showed serious signs of life at the PGA against Scotty. I mean, for the last nine holes, it felt like John Rom might win this, which would have been his third major. So they got two guys in John Rom and Bryson, who are, when they're on, are as good as anyone not named Scotty Sheffler and honestly could go toe to toe with Scotty.

I would say the thing with Phil, you know, they had a rain delay in D.C. and he was one shot off the lead, and he threw out a tweet. Like, I got a 10-footer to tie for the lead. And it was like, it's fun to have Phil. I mean, he's one of, you know, I would say Bryson has become kind of the modern-day Phil.

He's just a unique personality that transcended. Now, Phil also had Tiger. I would say there's no one as big as Tiger with Bryson. You could argue Bryson might even be as big as bigger than Scotty. But Phil is just a special, unique, everyone that follows sports knows who Phil Mickelson. And the thing with golf, you know, you just never know. The U.S. Open is a tournament that Phil has never been able to win, right?

Roy just wins the Masters, completes the career Grand Slam. All these tennis players, all the top guys, they win all the Grand Slam tournaments. You know, most of the top golfers of all time have won all four majors. Phil could never win the U.S. Open, even though he's finished in the top. I think he's finished second like six times. It'd be cool just one last time. I think Phil Mention is his last one. This at the, yeah, which is, you know, kind of sad.

But also, you know, you get to a certain point in golf. If you're not making the cuts and you get in your mid-50s, you know, you don't want to get your ass kick. How do you view, if you and I said greatest golfers of all time, Bobby Jones, Jack Nicholas, Tiger Woods, I love Rory and fit. Arnold Palmer. I put Arnold Palmer. Then there's guys like Tom Kite who finished second a million times. where do you put Mickelson? Yeah, I would say his comp, if we were doing like NFL quarterbacks,

would probably be Peyton Manning. He's probably one of the most important people that ever played the sport. He just happened to be at a time when there was a guy named Tiger Woods like Peyton had Tom Brady. And I think a lot like Peyton financial success, I mean, well before Liv came around, Phil. Remember that stat? Like for like 10 straight years, Tiger was the highest paid athlete. And Phil was like, oh, he's two or three. right ahead of Kobe or LeBron.

So, I mean, Phil financially was crushed it. You know, he didn't win until a little bit later, right? I think he won the Masters when he was like 33, 34 years old. And then the floodgates kind of opened. He won a bunch of majors. He's definitely one of the more entertaining. I mean, it's just a fan of golf, one of the more entertaining golfers. Very relatable.

I mean, at any moment, Phil could pump the thing out of bounds. I mean, some of Phil's greatest moments have been like shots, over fans and over trees to then tap in for birdie. It's not always just splitting the middle of the fairway and then knocking it to five feet. I think he's, I never watched Arnold Palmer, but there was an entertainment aspect to Arnold Palmer. I think Phil, when it comes to the individual sports, tennis and golf, is got to be one of the greatest entertainers of all time and per slash personality. Did you ever read the book?

I thought it was great by Alan Shipnock titled Phil, the rip-roaring biography of golf's most colorful superstar. Did you ever read that? I never did. Oh my God, I think you'd love it. I cannot believe I haven't gotten this for you. You should go to Amazon or Barnes & Noble. I'll download it right now. It's called Phil. I read the Billy Walter's book. I mean, me and Phil have some

commonalities of some of our vices. You know, we like betting on football. So, I mean, I actually being in Arizona, I've met some guys that played with Phil. And I mean, they love them. I mean, some of his college teammates are still really close to him. You know, I mean, Phil's, Phil's a pretty special, if we're talking like football or basketball, and this guy was a blue chip talent at like 18, 19 years old. One is an amateur on the

PGA tour. I mean, he's had one of the great careers all the time. I think he looks at the Alan Shepnuck book as a negative. I don't. I found it, you remember when they made Wall Street and Oliver Stone did not want Gordon Gecko to be a hero? He built him for the audacity of Wall Street and the grotesque nature of money is everything. And everybody, young stockbrokers, end up idolizing. Wanted to be like him. And I think Phil looks at the Alan Shipnuck book as a negative. I found it made him more relatable.

Listen, between food and gambling and just personality, Phil's a lot. You know what he's like? He's like a more talented, more disciplined John Daly. That he, you know, Daley just could not control himself at all. Phil has moments where he loses, he wasn't terribly disciplined, but he was so effing talented. And he was smart. I mean, Phil's really bright. And I don't think daily is necessarily.

Daily, just a little bit of a mess, but a wildly relatable and entertaining mess. But when I read the Shipnook book, I recommend it for everybody. I came out of there. It was, I thought it made Phil likable. Like, I wasn't bothered. Like, it's not like Phil is true. trying to tell you, I've always had abs. I've never bet football.

Phil's never tried. In fact, I think he sort of leaned in that he's a little crazy. And I loved it. Yeah, I mean, I actually think you're right. I mean, Phil's qualities. And I think part of the reason Michael Jordan still to this day is so popular, you know, most people can't relate to just winning championship after championship. But, you know, Michael likes to drink.

Michael likes socialize. Michael likes the party. He likes to gamble. You know, I think Phil has some of the similarities that it's like, you know, Phil does a lot of relatable things. And I think as a golfer, you know, Tiger could just be so robotic. It was like, this guy is just a lot to win. Where Phil, it's like, yeah, it could win by five or he could double boge, double boge 17 and 18

and end up losing in historic fashion. And that's where I think Rory, you know, I think kind of resonates of just like it can go great, it can go poorly. And, you know, Bryson, I'm telling you, Colin, I think Bryson U.S. Open this week in Oakmont is going to be a major, major factor. Yeah. And I, yeah, I think Bryson Nishambo did a really good job to pivot. I thought he was unlikable, you know, the 13 eggs, the 16 power shakes in the morning.

It was like, bro, I don't need a Bitcoin, bro, winning on the PJ tour, just be normal. I think he's become incredibly relatable. I think he's great with fans, which I like. I always thought Tiger was a bit too aloof with fans. I think Bryson has really done as good a job as any athlete. And again, it's golf, so I don't know what his marketing company is. I think he's done as good a job as any athlete going from unlikable to likable in a two-year stretch. Like, I root for Bryson to Shambo now.

I rooted for Brooks Kepka two years ago. I still love Brooks. But I think Bryson's the better player now. That's fair. Oh, yeah, not even close. I mean, I'd say Bryson's, I mean, as we sit here today, is currently with Rory in Chambles a little bit, currently the second best player in the world. I do think, you know, the live, you know, he was able to. able to pivot. He went all in on this YouTube really kind of changed. I also think golf

it's become a little, it's definitely become more, I would say, more in vogue, more popular athletes now play it, you know, football, basketball, people like it. But for a long time, you're just very isolated, you're by yourself, it's not a team game. If you are a little quirky and weird which I think you naturally have to be to just practice non-stop. It's not like tennis where you need another person to practice with. You just play golf by yourself. You just play golf by yourself. You can just practice by yourself 24-7 that like even if you're a little weird, if you play football

or basketball, you're going to be around other people and you'll just kind of mold into just kind of them, right? And just parts of their personality we're in golf, you can just kind of stay isolated. And I think the live team element, I think the YouTube element really kind of changed. And listen, I think

Bryson lightened up. You don't have to be like Tiger was, I mean, let's face kind of an asshole, Kobe could be, Michael could be. When you're kicking everyone's butt 24-7, 365, no one really cares. You know, Bryson would go to show up to the Masters and be like, this is a par 67, and then he'd be 77. It's like, Bryce.

You can't be saying that. So I think he got humbled a little bit, and I think he's just kind of embraced maybe the perfect timing of like social media boom. He just kind of knows how to play it. And he's, let's face it, you hit the ball 340, 350 yards. I mean, John Daly's still cool, and he's 60 years old. I mean, part of hitting the chicks dig the long ball. I mean, guys dig the long ball.

It's cool. And he does that, but he's a great player. So I think he's got out of anybody the best chance to beat Scottie this weekend at the U.S. Open. Great stuff. John Middilkoff, former NFL Scout, three and out. Buddy, hit the Tito's Day. It's a Tito's day. Well, take it easy. All right, buddy. Ice Cube's Big Three League tips off its new season on Vice TV and the opener is Stack with Talent. Saturday, June 14th, the Houston Rig Hands, led by NACCube.

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