The Herd with Colin Cowherd - The Daniel Cormier Show - Arman Tsarukyan's MESSAGE to Dana White, Islam Makhachev fight, Paddy vs. Justin

Episode Date: January 27, 2026

Daniel Cormier is OFFICIALLY BACK with the DC Interview show, and we kick off 2026 with none other than the UFC's top lightweight contender, Arman Tsarukyan! DC and Arman get into the controversy behind his back injury and dropping out of the Islam Makhachev fight, his incident with a fan, and the headbutt in his faceoff with Dan Hooker. Cormier and Tsarukyan also talk about his crazy rise to the top of the sport and why he had dreams of playing hockey for a living until he was 17 years old! DC and Arman also get into his problem with Ilia Topuria and why he believes he won't fight him. And don't miss Tsarukyan's message to Dana White and the UFC! #Volume All lines provided by Hard Rock BetSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I would say he's one of the best lightweights that we've ever seen because of his style, his ability, his composure inside the octagon, and so much more. This guy's a wrestler. He's the number one contender. He's an all-out savage. Sometimes you get an athlete that comes into the game and they are such a student of the game that they just pursue greatness

and pursue getting better at every single step. That's exactly what Armand Sarukian does. So right now, why he is still actively, the number one contender in the weight class, he goes out and he wrestles. He does grappling competitions. Hell, if they would let Armand Box, I'm pretty sure Armand Sarukian would box

if given the opportunity. This guy's a fighter through and through. But it's not just the fighting that defines Armand Suryukyan. It's the viral videos of him eating, unbelievable amounts of caviar, spending money, his family, his upbringing, and Georgia moving to Russia and everything else that defines this young man. Today I'm joined by the one and only Armand Srucian. Thank you so much. Thank you so much, man.

How you doing, bud? Take you somewhere you can do advertising for me. Yeah, that's what you want. The best advertising. Yeah, so... But you deserve it. Thank you. Thank you.

I appreciate it, especially from you, double champ. Like, it's different, you know, when someone knows what is... How's my wrestling? How's my MMA skills, you know? But you're not just fun, you know? Yeah. You know from the bottom of this game. So...

Yeah, thank you. I appreciate it. Armand, let's go back to the beginning, though. Let's talk about your childhood. Do you remember much about your childhood growing up, living in Georgia, before you moved to Russia and stayed there? No, I don't remember. I was born in Georgia and then I moved to Russia.

So when I was three years old or two and a half years old. But I remember my childhood from Russia. Yeah. So the beginning was we had a hard life, you know, because we just moved there. You know, my father, We didn't have a house, you know, but, and then my father started working hard and they make money and we got the house. We got all opportunities and we went to school and when I was seven, I went to the wrestling school or six.

No, my brother, he was eight. I was six and I went to the freestyle wrestling school. What made you take up wrestling? Like, what was it that, was it your dad that said, hey, I'm going to put my boys in wrestling? The first we went to karate first. We went to karate first. We went to karate but karate was a little bit far from our house and our dead couldn't drive us to there

and the close to our home was a freestyle wrestling gym so that's why we decided to go there and we liked the freestyle wrestling and I stayed there three, four years and then I transitioned to hockey because all my teammates from my school all day they play hockey and I was playing with them like amateur too

but still I was wrestling I was competing wrestling like when I was nine but still like three times a week I winter time I go to the ice and play with them and then one court said you play it pretty good

so you gotta train hockey you can be a hockey player and then I quit the wrestling and I started to play hockey all day why did you quit why did you quit wrestling you said you liked it so much But hockey was more fun

And especially you don't cut weight When I was seven You were cutting weight at seven? Yeah, seven eight Why? The coaches, they just You know, they didn't know like we shouldn't cut They told us you shouldn't eat like two days

You know, don't drink anything You gotta cut and go for this weight class How involved was your dad In your wrestling at a young age? No, he wasn't involved He just gave us to there and he said, do whatever you want to do. If you need the help, just let me know. And then I said, I want to be hockey player.

And he said, no problem. So he bought me all the hockey stuff, you know, because it's a little bit expensive. And then he said, if you need like a professional coach or bring somewhere or send you to Canada or whatever you want. So I said, no, here is pretty good. And they stayed there. And then I couldn't be a good hockey player. Why? Why couldn't you be good at hockey?

I start a little bit late. I start nine. I was supposed to start like when I was five, six. Because that three years, nine is a little bit late for hockey. That's crazy nine years old. Yeah, because the competition is in different levels. So let's see, I'm nine, like ten. They already play in like four or five years.

Really? Yeah, like from five years they play. So when you were playing hockey, how much did you use what you learned on the wrestling, Matt in hockey, tackling people, hitting people, checking people. Like, how much of that did you use? I used one we are in a locker room and fighting in the locker. So I was using my wrestling.

Yeah. Yeah. So you're immediately the toughest guy. Yeah. But on the ice, I wasn't that good on the fighting. So people, my teammates, they didn't try to mess with me, you know. So when you went from wrestling at nine years old, to hockey, how long before you got back into wrestling?

Because if you're living in Russia, wrestling is number one. At least that's our idea of it from the outside. Like wrestling is the number one sport in Russia. How long were you away from it? No, it depends which part you live. So I lived close to Yakutsk and even close to Alaska, you know? Yeah. That part everybody play hockey.

And his hockey is so popular there. So number one sport was in my series of hockey. That's why I played hockey. And how long were you away from wrestling? Until 17 years. 17 years old. Yeah. What made you go back?

So I couldn't be a good hockey player. And I said, what I got to? Were you just bad? No. No, they just picked three hour guys, the best ones. And then like other like 25, 30 people, they just went to the, like I don't know

they went to the college they play for the college but not like professionals you know they they couldn't make money from that but three of them they could go to the different clubs

and the one of our friends he went to the NHL so yeah but and then the grappling was so popular that moment the grappling and I said

okay what I can do I cannot be a wrestler I cannot be a I should go to try to this grappling. And I tried grappling and I won Russian competition right away. And they said, it's so easy. Maybe I should fight.

I started fighting. I start fighting. Really? Yeah. And my father said, okay, so dangerous sport, just do one fight and get out of there. Because you can be stupid. Can I ask you a question? A lot of times, especially over there, right?

We hear stories of Khabib, Islam, so many of the Russian fighters, their fathers were like on them. And they were very strict and they were very tough. And they almost, they were on them to make sure that they turned out to be what they wanted to be. Held them accountable to their goals. Was your dad like that at all? Or was he more just a supportive person that was just on the journey with you? No, he just support me. He never said me why you're like sleeping.

You got to go to train. he never been in the sport he doesn't know like how sport works you know he just support me I did what I wanted to do and but in I'm like I like sport

that's why I do it and I like I love sport that's why so I can do it you know you're a bit of an outlier though because most of us have someone on us whether it's a father

or a coach where was that motivation from for you. When you were a young kid to not only go try to pursue hockey, but it doesn't boil down to Armand. This is just so easy. I'm going to start fighting and doing MMA. It can't possibly be that there had to be something or someone that helped to drive you

in those years, those teen years as you were growing. So we get, we got a professional, professional events. I went to the event and watched how the people fight. and I like so much. I said, I like fighting when I was even kid. Like, sometimes my dad even say, like, so we go to the, like, two families somewhere, and there is a kid.

And like my dad always said, can you beat this guy? I say, yeah, go and beat him. And like we fight, you know, like 10 years, 10 years kid. It's like this in the village right now as well. Did you lose much? Never. You never lost a kid fight? No.

Because I knew wrestling from the. background, you know. Yeah, that three years, I knew how to shoot single and double leg, that's it. So because of that, I won all my street fights. You know, when I was a kid, my godfather

may rest in peace, he would give us, like, to fight. We would put socks on our hands and we would start fighting. He would give like fight of the night bonuses, man. If you got, if you knocked, my brother was fighting one of my cousins and he was

went in two rounds to zero. My cousin did a spinning back fist. It was, I swear to God, it was like a video game. He spun and he smacked my brother right in the eye. He went down, fight over. He got $10. Bonus. It was amazing.

Wow. So when I was wrestling, you were in Dagestan and hit that guy with the... I did. Yeah. And I was 10 years old kid and I was watching that video. You were in Dagestan? No, I was in... You were in Tuchist.

I was on... I was watching on my YouTube. Oh, you were watching a do-me? Not a week. It's called the app. It's called FKontacte. Yeah, I was watching that video when you punched the guy, the Dagestani guy.

You probably think I was crazy. Yeah, and like there is one commentator. He's so funny. Like, he's saying like, like, this guy should be going and fight, you know? You know back? And then you went to the UFC. That's crazy.

Even then you thought that I thought that I thought that I could fight MMA, but we couldn't fight MMA at the time. You had to learn how to fight MMA. Yeah, MMA is different. Street fight is different. MMA is different, you know. So when you start thinking of making MMA a career, you start fighting, everything's going swimmingly, right?

You're winning. Did it come more natural to you than you expected? Yeah, it was so easy. I don't know why. And like, when we go to the competition, people is like, worry, scared, you know, but me, I'm just saying, Syrian, like, it is what it is, you know? I just go and fight.

But three years wrestling isn't enough for you to have that confidence. Three years is not a long time. That single and double leg stayed from that young age. Eight years past you wrestling, you think that you still had the same? For sure. The same single and double leg that I shoot when I was from six to nine, I shoot the same until nowadays. Really?

Yeah. And fighting just came easy? I think where I grew up, that's why it's easy for me. know and I don't know just I like fighting I don't know from where it comes maybe from my blood I don't know I just like I like to fight you know so when did you guys get comfortable like in life financially when did that happen how old were you at that point like good yeah could when did you notice a difference as a kid like when I was uh when I was uh 12 years old yeah like good yeah life changed yeah but six seven was okay too but from the

seven was okay but from the three to seven was was hard yeah we we we we slept in the car you know we we slept in the car we didn't have a house the moment you know it was cold I lived the cold place too so and one daghistani people they said oh come and you can live without us don't pay money, just we stay with them like one year until we build our house. And then we build our house and we move to them, to our house. Do you remember, like, can you remember like? Just a little bit, little bit. Like just like those moments and do you remember like your parents or anything like the way that you would watch them operate in those hard times?

Because in those hard times is when you really learn strength because you watch, I watch my mom and dad when we were. like really, really poor, not take help from the government because they wanted to make it on their own. And that instilled something in me about hard work that I think carried me into being who I am today. Do you remember watching your parents and watching your father as he's starting to try and make a living that made you guys as comfortable as you are? Yeah, of course. I remember from like five years when I was five to like 10. He was working all day. You know, we never like go. somewhere and like first time

we went to vacation it was a Thailand when I was maybe 12 but my father like he sent me around the world so I was 12 I went to Thailand I was 14 I went to Paris To do hockey?

No just vacation By yourself? No no It was the classmateers Yeah with your school Yeah it was my school so I'm barely about to sit in my down So I maybe I had like a couple

hard years like from maybe three to six but i don't remember very well what what how it was like but at 12 you felt your life like really change 12 yeah i had my hundred bucks to the school you know i could buy whatever i wanted like and i was training uh i didn't i didn't go out like hang out with my friends too much i was playing all day hockey and i i fell in love with the hockey you know you know um being a little rich boy, like you're probably good, you got away from wrestling because those little mean ones

would have got after you. Yeah, wrestlers is different. So I had the one, when I was 17, I went to the, started like do grappling and I had the like good, like a sport,

the, you know, the Bosco, the brand. Yeah. So expensive brand. And they said, someone gonna steal that brand from me. I gotta like keep it. And then I put my,

the jacket on the, on the, on the chair and they check my weight and then come back, there's no, my... It's gone. Yeah, it's gone because of wresters, resters different animals. Yeah. All right, guys, today's show is brought to you by our new sponsor, Hard Rock Bet. Hard Rock Bet is a top-rated sportsbook app.

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like my kids are growing up today, right? Comfortable. How did you keep the edge whenever you were growing up with, in that way, right? With access to stuff. How do you feel, like you said, your dad told you, don't fight. You're going to be stupid, right? You don't need to fight. Like, how did you keep that edge even though you were living the way you were living?

I just like what I do and I said my dad if I could be not good fighter just tell me I'll go but I started winning fights and I became a Russian champion and then I became Asian and a world champion in MMA

and then I started to make money when I was 18 I was making like $4,000 doing what? Fighting yeah I went to Korea I made money there and like I started like making around 10k per fights so for me it was good money you know when 19 you just you have a car you have a house they give you food at home you just spend money freely for you know people don't realize how good they have it when you still living with your

parents yeah that they pay all the bills until now I live with my parents that's crazy armin that's good I would live with them too if I was you I'm telling you that much easy easy was there a lot of expectation on you growing up like expectation to do well? For them? From anyone, your coaches, like what was the expectation like? Since I was 15 years old people like, you need to go win. My coaches, you got to go win.

You need to go win. I go home. My dad's like, you got to be a good football player. Like I always had expectation on me. Did you have that? Yeah, like which gym I go? coaches like wrestling when I was wrestling every coach wanted to to take me from them because they knew like when I was like six seven eight I was wrestling like so different like and I could beat everybody

and like every coach wanted like take me because they thought like I'm a like a future Olympic champion you know you can see that in kids yeah because the coach has always like told me oh you have a different like genetic different like move you you you you you you you you you already think how wrestle even when I was a kid. But then my coach, like, I cut a lot of weight, like two KG. But why are you cutting that much weight?

I don't know. Like, even if I'm going to have kids, like, who is going to wrestle, I'm not going to let them cut, you know? Yeah. Wait, because I was heading that sport because of cutting weight. Is that why you think it was easier

to walk away from wrestling because of that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So there was pressure, but it was from, was the coaches telling you, we need to start making the weight. Yeah, but then they started, and for me it was easier to win, like, one, two, KG less, you know? But you, as a seven-year-old kid, knew that?

How I know, like, how I know, like, I should stay in my weight, you know? But you as a kid were like, hey, I want to do this because I want to make, I want to win. Yeah. When it was important. Yeah, but coach should tell me, like, oh, you shouldn't cut weight. Yeah. No, yeah, that's just, yeah.

I can't really say much about that because I do, in my high school, the kids do cut a lot of weight. But they're older, right? Like 16, 15, 17, okay. But when you're 9, 8 years old, no, they should not be cutting. Yeah, yeah. That's the worst part for the breast. Especially like 7, 8, until like 14 years old, it no makes sense. It's only practice.

It doesn't matter. You win, you lose, it doesn't matter. Yeah, it doesn't matter. But when you're 16, 17, you got to start, like, pick it up and winning. Yeah. If you're losing, when you're 18, you're losing. You got to transition to MMA. Yeah.

You're making it seem like MMA is the easier option and that's not the case. It's easier option for sure. Then to be an Olympic champion in freestyle wrestling. It's impossible. Be an Olympic champion. Be an Olympic champion. I tell people constantly.

Being an Olympic champion in freestyle wrestling is impossible. Almost from five million people, one can be. So you know anybody who started, like freestyle wrestling 30 years old and became an Olympic champion You know who almost did? You know who almost did?

I swear. You know King Mo? Muhammad Lawal? He used to fight Belator everything. He didn't start wrestling till 15. And the guy that won the Olympics

in 2008, he beat him every single time. It was the job the little short, I think he made 84 kilos Georgian. Was it a Georgian? I wonder if he was a Georgian guy?

He was really good. King Mo beat him every single time. Look this up for me, Paul. 2008 Olympic Games, 84-kilogram champion. But did he go to Olympia? He got beat in America by a guy that wasn't as good, but because the guy had a good style for him,

guy lost the first match. But he started at 14, and it was unheard of that he was so close. Because the rest of us all started real young. And we were on the Olympic team. But it's damn near impossible if you start late. But in fighting, you can't. Breastink, tennis, football. Okay.

84 kilos? Yeah, gold medal from Georgia. 2008, right? Yeah. So any amateur sport, if you start late, it's almost impossible. Unless if shooting, what else? Curling. Curling.

What else? Nothing. Yeah, yeah. So you get into the MMA, right? Everything is going good. You get the call Moscow. You're fighting Islamakchev. San Petersburg.

St. Petersburg. St. Petersburg. You're fighting Islam-Machachachshav on seven days notice. I said right away, yes. Really? Yeah, and he said, no, he said, there is opportunity to fight with Islam-Mahachev in two weeks or three weeks.

It was two or three weeks. I said, and he didn't say when. He said, Islam-Hachev, you want to fight? I said, yes. And he's asking, do you don't want to hear when? He said, it doesn't matter. I just need two weeks to cut me, okay, so you got like two and a half or three weeks.

So, and, And I knew, like, I'm going to beat him. I don't know why I thought, like, I'm going to beat him. Because I was super confident. Because you got to be confident. You can't believe you're going to leave. For example, if I didn't take that chance, I could be at home right now. Maybe I never could come in U.S. and, like, learn English.

And, like, never be in UFC. Like, I could fight in my country. And, you know, if I didn't take that chance, that moment. And it legitimized you right away, right? Because everybody's like, wow, this kid fought Islam so good and he didn't have a training camp. Yeah, it was a good fight. And then I started winning fights and rematch almost happened. It almost happened.

Almost happened. I pulled my back. But you see that we fought first time and like almost in six years we again almost fought because we were the best in the division. And he always kind of gives you praise for, even when they ask today, like, who's the best lightweight in the world? He always says, I believe Armand Turuquian. Yeah. And that's the respect that probably was earned inside the Aklund on that night when you guys fought. Yeah, I wish we could fight last year this time.

Yeah, it would be the best maybe fighting in the whole time. Why? Why do you think it would have been such a great fight? Because we are such a well-rounded fighters. And, you know, we have a story. Like, we fought when we were young and, like, was six years ago. It was my debut. And then in six years, we started winning our fights.

He became a champion. I became a number one contender and fought with each other. So it's pretty interesting, you know. I think so many people thought that fight was going to be good because of the way you guys fought before and the improvements you showed and the improvement he showed. But unfortunately, that fight didn't happen because of you hurting your back and everything. There were so many stories floating around about why you didn't fight. What happened?

I even heard once that you just weren't allowed to fight because of your father. Wouldn't let you fight with a hurt back that you wanted to fight. Like, first off, why is so many people so enamored with you in your life in terms of your family life that they incorporated into everything that you do. But also, like, is it annoying to you that all these stories are just always floating around about Armand's Rukia? No, not anymore.

Before, yes, but now I'm just laughing. Someone is when they ask, you pulled your back, no, I'm saying, I couldn't cut my weight. But that was the thought. People think, but now we get the new thing that it wasn't an issue with the bag. It wasn't issue with the...

Waycutt, it was issue that I didn't get that pressure that I couldn't fight. What pressure? Like, fighting the main event in the West Islam. That you couldn't handle pressure. It was in LA, a lot of Armenians. Yeah, so. And this is saying, like, legit people. People that you actually know.

Yeah, like real, and you know, too. Yeah, but that's, but again, like, even that, though, right, Armand, like, all those things. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know how they think. I have no idea. And the doctor, the doctor came and see me, and the doctor said, like, maybe I could fight. But how she can see, she's not MRI. How she can see, like, what happened, what's going on with me?

She put some tapes and she said, you feel better. Like, how you can feel better if you put some tapes on your back? But, you know, I get, I got, I did MRI, but I never show to anybody what's going to on with my back. And I got the doctor who is like sitting and saying what's going on, what injured you got on my back. How bad was it? Yeah. How bad was it? It was bad. It was so bad. So, but one day I got to do surgery. So now I'm figuring out when I should do that. Yeah. It's still able to train. I still too able to train, but I think when I get the belt, I'm going to the surgery because it takes like six weeks to get back.

So, okay, that right there, right, is part of the question when it comes to Armand's Rukia. Right? Everybody thought it was the weight. Then you win as the backup fighter, right? Me, I'm, I'm, this guy's number one contender. This guy's number one contender. Because it seems very clear that you should be fighting for the championship. that doesn't happen.

You go and fight Dan Hooker. You smash Dan Hooker. We do an interview day after. People are going crazy. So many people watched it. Everybody's aligned. Armand Sarukian is in the one contender. It seems like a foregone conclusion that when there is a title fight, it's going to be Armant's Rukon.

But that doesn't happen. Do you buy it? Do you buy the reason that you're not getting the title fight? because you headbutted Dan Hooker? Do you believe that that's the reason you're not getting the title fight? It could be. It could be.

And I think this is Paramount first fight, a first paramount event. That's why they're a little bit scary to put me there. Why? Because I pulled out. I pulled out once in my life from my fight and they doesn't believe that they can make it happen. and the second one had a third one is uh that I punched the fan I don't know the fan

was make sense of the fan you know when you see it all at the same time yeah but like I got I got I got to meet and talk to them what was the real have you have you spoken to no no no why they didn't have you requested a meeting no why because you need to get you need to clear this up yeah but I have a manager so he I pay him money has he has he requested a meeting? I think he's going to get the meeting. He's going to get the he's going to get he's going to talk.

Yeah. Yeah. So but I'm okay you know. Whatever. So first a couple days I said yeah what's going on? Like why is like that? But I said okay. It's okay you know and I just keep going

and I know like I'm going to get my title fight anyway. And it's a It's a business too. You've got to see, like, maybe there is a lot of people from Russia. You know, now they don't have U.S. champions. They don't have, like, England champions.

So maybe. Tom Aspen all is. Yeah, but he's current, no, the intern type. He's a heavyweight champion because John John. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. But still, so from U.S., they don't have a champion. We don't have a champion. So that's why maybe they put the Gage versus Petty.

I have no, it's, I just, I just guess, you know. No, but I'm saying, it's the same, right? If it's Gaichi versus Armand, we could still have an American champion. No way. I'm saying. Armine. No way. I'm saying it's a possibility, right?

Like Patty Pimbley versus Justin Gachy. Patty Pimlet versus Armant-Shrukin. Armant Sruiken versus Justin Gachey. Anybody can win any fight, right? So you could beat these guys or you could lose to these guys in the way fighting works. I'm just saying. Yeah, but. On any given night, right?

Yeah, it could be. But they pick that five. What can I do? No, I'm just saying, I'm just saying like, because you are fine with it, but it seemed like even me, right? I was like, I was so confused. And I work with this company, right?

Very closely. And I'm like, how? It just didn't make sense to me. Yeah, maybe really it's a headbutt. Yeah. Maybe really headbutt and, yeah, it was my fault. Yeah, I know that. And I said the Dan Hooker is a man.

maybe it was a different guy he could say I heard my hat I couldn't fight you know yeah yeah for sure then another fight can't that's a big deal so it wasn't it was so bad but

but I think I think because of Paramount maybe Paramon said we need the Paddy Pimlet versus What do you make of this

this fight Patty Pimbley and Justin Gagie I believe Justin Gagey you think Gage is going to beat him. Yeah. You don't think

Patty's very good? He's just tough, but not technical. He's wild. Wild. But, you know, Gage, he's, if he's in good

shape, he's going to be calm first two rounds. And he takes, he knows he has a lot of experience. See, he beats two times physique, how? Just striking two? Yeah, first round,

he gives a lot of, like, kicks. And, no, he let kick him. he let like do a lot of things on him but the second round and he's starting like pick it up yeah and the same is going to be here I think and I believe

like dressing age you're going to beat him by by by decision sorry but Patty never looked better than he did when he fought Michael Chandler he was able to take him down was able to control him his ground game is pretty good he's saying he can finish his fighting

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He seems to want to fight you, though. He's the same bullshit guy like Tapuria. Tapura wanted to fight me, too, but not anymore. Do you think that if Patty wins, he wouldn't fight you? Never. He said he's never been offered a fight against you. That's why you guys haven't fought yet. I got to ask you, Armour.

This is just me doing my job, man. Yeah, but, like, you see not going to let him to fight with me. They're going to lose their star. they think he's star I don't know why they think he's a star I have no idea this week everybody is talking more about me

than about Petty Pima versus Gage even like I see a couple clips I didn't see all press conference from yesterday but I heard like four or five questions was about me like A lot of the questions are about you yeah so but

you know can imagine if I was fighting this weekend what it could be for Paramount and for the for the UFC, I think, could be big, me versus Perry. So my question to you is this, right? You're confident that you, I think you might be favored to be almost everybody in the world.

You and Toporia are like super close. Yeah. In terms of the betting odds. Everybody else, you guys kind of wipe away. Right now, yes, in our division is Topuri and me. Holloway not, Charles not. Yeah, it's because we are in our prime and we can box, we can wrestle.

And we never see the petty how he looks like with good fighters. But you just said Tepore is bullshit guy too. No, a bullshit guy, he's avoiding me. Yeah, you said, but like a fighter, he is a good fighter. Right, so you said Teporee won't fight you. Yeah. You say you don't think Patty will fight you. Yeah, because I'm bad style.

Yeah, because I know how to wrestle. If I was a good striker, for sure he could take me, you know. So if that's the case, then how are you going to get your title fight, Armored? How are you going to get your title fight? I have no idea. So hopefully, Gajie wins. Gaj would fight you. Gajie fight me, yeah.

Gaju wins. Tapuria go up to 175 with Islam. I'll fight with Gigi for the interim title. And then Gajah Tupuri is coming back and I beat Tapuri and get the title. Yeah. That would be a fun fight. Yeah. I think that'll be a really good fight.

Yeah. But you have to respect to. Taporia's fighting ability. No, yeah, for sure, for sure. Yeah, Tapura, he has a good power on the hands, like, good boxing, good pressure, and good IQ as well. So if he missed the punch, he never, like, going crazy. Like, he's, like, he's good fighter. Do you think that the winner this weekend fights Tepore you, so are you going to fight again?

Will you fight again in the meantime? No, I don't see anybody who I can't. fight. So if Holloway beats Aluera, I can fight Holloway, but I don't know, you've seen that or not?

Because it's easy money for me. They can give me if they fight. Even for BMF, it's good, too, to get BMF and then get that. If you get the BMF title, now you're holding that belt, that might think, oh, well, he's BMF champion. Yeah, and I want to be like an active champion

and defend BMOF, defend the real belt because I got five, six years, you know, to work. There's a lot of people in the world that believe that the reason you aren't fighting for the belt is because of the style that you present for Tuporia and the rest of those guys. I tell you, man, when I watch you fight, especially the way you fought against Dan Hooker,

it's going to be very difficult for these guys to keep you off of them. How do you fight the arm and service? Sarukian of today. If you were getting, as an opponent, how do you fight the Arm and Sarucan of today? Because I remember the Charles Oliver fight. And it wasn't as close as people say it was. It was a good fight.

But you seem pretty comfortable in that fight. But this Dan Hooker fight, you just dominated him. And it looked like you guys were on completely different levels. And he was riding hot. How do you fight Arm and Sarucyan today? So you got to take him down first. You got to try to take him down. first because if you're not going to try and take him down he's going to take you down yeah so like let's

see like fighters who is like who knows wrestling very well and who wants to try me take me down as well is going to be close fight you know but like if you're going to stay and strike me it's not going to help you know i uh i uh hope that you at some point get your opportunity no no i'll get i'll get my title fight and we don't know what's going on with Tapuia maybe he's coming back and the end of this year so no he said April

he said he wants to fight in April but Patty Pimbley said he won't fight that soon so I can fight with maybe there's an opportunity for you to fight him in April and then I can I can fight Tapuil in April and then I'll fight to Patty or Gage who who's going to be an intern champion

tomorrow. At the end of the year not tomorrow. The next day Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean saying who's going to be champion from them. Yeah, yeah. You and Ilya would be a tough fight, man. Tough fight. Yeah, good fight. Good fight.

Good fight. Yeah. It would be a fantastic fight. Yeah, I would like to watch that fight, too. If you became UFC champion, what would it mean to you? Just, like, seriously, because, like you say, you started fighting because it was kind of easy. You enjoyed doing it. Now you love what you do. But if you became the UFC champion, what would it mean to you?

Right now it means a lot for me. because I wanted so much, but I know when I became a champion, it's nothing for me. Why? I don't know. It's in my life like this. So, for example, when I was young,

I wanted, like, special car, right? I get the car. First day, I'm happy. The second day is same life, you know? So the same with belt. Same, the, it's going to be same for me. Like, so I get the title. I want to defend the title.

When I defend, I want to defend as much as possible. And then I want it to be. a double champ and like make all break all records so and I know like possibility I can I can fight you know a lot

why do you do that why do you keep moving that finish line right a goal why do you feel like you just kind of when you get to the goal it's like ah well it is because I've been working so hard it's got a pace off you know it's got a and when I became a champion

When I become a champion, so it's going to be time when I'm going to make a lot of money. And I want to be a face of UFC. Like you were 10 years ago? What, come on, man. I know I got a lot of great money. No, no. It wasn't 10, man. So how many?

Seven years. Eight, yeah. Yeah, but pretty same. Yeah, long time. Yeah. It was a long time. So I would like to have two bells on my shoulders. Yeah.

and like run. One of the best things that I enjoy doing when I would win a belt, I love giving it to my dad. Like I always go to the back. I would give the belt to my dad and he could say, well, my son's a world champion, right? Who would you want to do that with?

Like, is there a person like your father, would you walk to him and just, because it always feels good when your father says to you, good job, son. Yeah, for sure is that. Yeah, if he's going to be in the case, if not give it to the, to the coach, it's good too, because coaches work harder than me, you know.

They worry more than me because you fight there, you don't worry about it. But coach cannot control you there, you know? That's why they worry, and I would like to give to the coach as well. Why did you put your dad in your corner last time? Who? Your dad was in the corner last time. Why did you do this? No, he wasn't my time.

Or he was like walking out of the way in or something. Was that the first time he's going to a fight? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Why? Because I was fighting in the U.S. and he doesn't have a visa. Okay. Okay, that's why. He cannot get a visa.

So all these times that you're here in the United States? Yeah, he never was in my fights. Wow. That's kind of crazy. That's sad, actually. Kabim's dad couldn't get to his fights towards the end of his life, too. That's why my last fight was in Doha, so he could come and watch my fight. Yeah.

He was super excited. Did he enjoy it? Yeah. Because before he thought that you fight would make you dumb. No, he enjoyed and like he like after he smir, he, he wrestled the parumpi. Have you seen the video and like he threw the palumper to the. Yeah.

What about your mom? What did your mom make of all this? No, she doesn't, she doesn't watch fights and. Does she watch it after when she knows that you want? No, she just watched maybe on Instagram some reels. That's it. Why? Because she was.

She worried about my health, you know. And it's hard to watch maybe something happened during the fight, miss punch, you know. My mom would sit in the front and she never watched. Really? She would sit there with her head down the whole time. I was like, well, why do you even come? Yeah.

Right? It's like no point in even going if you're like not watching. Yeah. No, my mom, she's just standing at home and waiting when someone's going to see, oh, your son is won. Yeah. Yeah. Before I let you go,

when this thing's all said and done, like how do you want people to remember Armand's Rukia? I want to, I want to be a humble guy with a lot of UUC belts on my shoulders and like try to beat all records and to give something good for this world, you know? Yeah.

To leave something like good. Not just, we're not going to take money, you know, but maybe build, a good gym or something, you know, like do some good things. Like in my city we have a Ghaletsky Sergei Ghalisky, he's a billionaire in Russia.

So he built one of the best park ever, like so beautiful park and just from his pocket, you know, for the people and people go there enjoying and they, you know, they come and they're happy, you know, because there's a lot of like good things to do.

there and enjoy with family restaurants everything yeah so I would like to do something like that. Your city do they get behind you when you're fighting yeah yeah everybody is like behind me and like you bring joy to them yeah yeah I would like you know most of them

they got Russian passport it's a little bit hard to get easy to get here yeah but one day one day I hope the UFC comes to Russia too and we can fight there When you're a world champion, if you become world champion, you can start making those requests.

And they start to listen. Yeah, Russia or Armenia, it's going to be good. Yeah. Yeah. And especially like if it's Armenia from Russia, everybody can fly and watch them. That's awesome. Yeah. Keep making those eating videos, man.

You're doing it. We got to do together video how we eat. This is crazy. What was the video like with the cakes or with the-A-I, bro? No. Oh, video of the cake with you, you, you. Back in the day. But did you see the video?

a fat video with me eating a, there's a video with me like fat AI. You want to see the hamburger? You want to see my video from today? Let's see a video from today. Well, what did you eat now? This very expensive caviar last time. Yo, where were you? In and out burger?

Popeyes. Pop-ice chicken, huh? Look at this guy. Popeye's chicken, private jet? Hey, let me ask you a question. How do you still have, like, muscles like? Like body, right? Like, how do you still have this body when you eat this shit all the time?

Why you eat this shit? And you still have like six packs? Because I train. I train twice a day, every day. So I trained in the jet too. Hell sure. Let me see. Oh, my God.

This dude. Oh. You kind of look like Rocky Bell Boy here, huh? You remember Rocky Balboa? No. Like, you look like Rocky Bell Boy. Really? Yeah, like with the haircut and the muscle shirt.

This is very good. Give me these videos for the video. Yeah. That was Armand Srukian. Armand Srukiyan. Hopefully, guys, gets this chance to fight for the UFC championship. This guy deserves it. I believe with all my heart.

And I know a lot of you do too. Hey, in the comments, tell me what you want Armand to eat next. Because this guy seems to be doing really well with these eating videos. We got to eat horse. I would never in my life eat horse. Why? This is bullshit meal, man. No.

After horse? After horse. It's not good, dude. Strong. What it tastes like? You've eaten this before a horse? Of course, brother. That's why you get muscles.

What does it taste like? It tastes like beef? Beef, but good. Better than beef. But like, no. No, no. So good. So good.

What about camel? When you were eating a camel? I had alligator a couple days ago. Disgusting. No, it was good. Like chicken. Like chicken? Yeah, I heard.

I heard. But like camel, the camel when you were eating it? No. It looked like a lot of fat, like a lot of fat. Yeah, but you got to like get the small piece from the fat and like big piece from the meat and then rice together. Like eat. You like eating too, I think. I do like eating, but not that shit.

What? Bo, look at me, look at you. I don't know how. I really don't know how. I'm excited to see you when you're done training. You're going to be fat like me. No, no, no. No, listen.

I love training. So much you can't even imagine. When you're done fighting, you will not train it. I'm going to train more than now. You know why? Why? When I'm not in the camp, I like train more than when I'm in camp. In camp, you always like...

Tired. You're not enjoying because, like, you've got to cut weight this. You have a pressure. You have a fight coming up. But when you don't have a fight, you just go. I go to the gym. So I do lifting. I do boxing.

I swim, I come, talk, like all day I'm there. At American Top Team? Anywhere. You stay in the dorms? At American Top Team, when you go, you stay dorms? Yeah, I stay there. Why do you stay in the dorms instead of just get like Airbnb apartment or something? Be like on the, in the, how do you say?

Discipline. Discipline. Yeah, you cannot bring anybody there, your friend or like, yeah. So just men's lives there and you. You cannot have guests. You have a girlfriend? Wife. You're married?

Yeah. You have kids? Two. I had no idea. Yeah. Congratulations. Thank you. Yeah.

Two kids? How old boy? Girl? Two girls. Yeah. My wife's is caramel, too. So beautiful. This is a good color, huh?

You're walking about to be very beautiful. This color? Beautiful, beautiful. Beautiful. Beautiful. With Hamzad, you remember you said, you see my color, beautiful caramel. She Georgian? Russian girl?

No American caramel. Black? You have a black wife? Oh my God. What? Let's go. I'm an even bigger. Not black, brother, caramel.

This is black. No, this is like a little bit, little bit lighter than you. This is a beautiful color. Yeah. No, no, no, not a little bit lighter. Well, if she was my color, it'd be. very good. Yeah.

The light is good. So, Dana and Hunter. Yes. Go ahead. Forgive me. Give me the title fight. I'll be good boy. I'm a good boy.

And I'm not going to hit anybody anymore. And trying to be a good boy. So, yeah. But I cannot, in the during camp, it can be happen and everything, you know, like you can get hurt. but for the weight card and for the for the punching backs or headbut anybody never happened again. Yeah, but but like, you know, I'm going to the fights, which was? Is someone like trying to like slap me? What I can do?

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