The Herd with Colin Cowherd - The Daniel Cormier Show - Carlos Ulberg on beating Jiri Prochazka at UFC 327, DISMISSES DC & major critics

Episode Date: April 11, 2026

Carlos Ulberg makes his DEBUT on the DC Check-In with Daniel Cormier ahead of his TITLE FIGHT at UFC 327 in Miami against light heavyweight superstar Jiri Prochazka. Ulberg addresses DC's public criticism of him early in his career and questions why people like Cormier made those critiques. Plus, Carlos talks about the transition from Rugby to fighting and why he knew this was his path. And don't miss DC and Ulberg break down the fight against Prochazka, Carlos' career to this point, Alex Pereira moving to heavyweight, putting milk in tea, and much more! #Volume All lines provided by Hard Rock BetSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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The volume. Hey, Carlos Black Jag? Peanut Butter Jag. How are you more peanut butter jag? Peanut butter, yeah. A little light color. I love a bit of peanut butter. Yeah, a little peanut butter.

Hey, man, you know what I just saw? I saw a gal outside. That's her right there. She works for you? Yes, yeah. Well, I work for her. She, oh. Yeah, yeah, well, she's the manager.

Oh, she's your manager. Yeah. She's over there putting milk inside of her tea, man. That's all good. What y'all got going on over there in Australia? Milk and tea? Milk and tea? You don't have milk and tea? Hell no. We don't do that.

Wow. I think it's an English thing. Really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you're not English. You're Australian. Kiwi, New Zealand. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's good. Hey, man. Thanks for checking in with me. I appreciate it. Guys, Carlos Olberg, fights for the UFC Light Heavyweight Championship this weekend

against Europe, Prohaska from Miami, Florida. How's it feel being about to fight for your first UFC championship? Yeah, pretty fired up, man. It's surreal, but then at the same time. I'm kind of just soaking everything in and letting everything fall into place. We've got a whole crew here, which has been nice. We came a little earlier to Miami, so that allowed us to, well, allowed us to get some training in that last hard week of training that we needed.

and that set us up for this week to for Fight Week really. Who did you bring? I saw, well, God, Kevin Jusay, Navajo, Sterling. Navajo, who just fought in Seattle last week. He said Navajo just stayed here the whole time since he fought? Yep, yep, yeah. Because he came from Seattle right to meet you? Straight here, yeah.

He got to finish, too. Yeah, he did, yeah. Finally, I mean, shit, I was getting bored watching the fight every time going 15 minutes. No, I'm just fucking with him. I was just talking to him about how good he did earlier. He's got his headphones and he don't even hear. He did good, man. He's doing really good.

You guys have a lot of momentum going in that team. But I want to ask you this, Carlos. And this is one of the things that I've wondered aloud. Has this happened faster than you could have thought? Some would say no. But, I mean, I think I've done it the right way where you know, you went through the division. And it wasn't like some guys had got it after two fights in the year. UFC three fights in the UFC, but I think doing it the way that I did it and because I was learning

on the job, I did it the right way and it helped me to develop how I needed to. You know, when I watch you come off of the contended series, it's very evident you had a lot of potential and so you get judged a little harder. I've been hard on you in quite a few times because you can see that there's something there, but it's not just me. It's like, Bisping, it's like, well, Alberg will be more, it'll be more. Do you notice any of that?

And it's like, do you, like, when you're watching so many people just talk about your career and your career continues to elevate and elevate and elevate, are you aware of what's happening around you in terms of the conversation? Because ultimately the conversation also helps to get to the end point, right? So many people talking about you, and does it even matter?

Because it never quite mattered to me. Yeah, I mean, yeah, exactly. It never really matters, but it just adds a little bit of fuel to the fire, right? There's a bit of fire there. It's just I have full faith in myself, and I know my potential. I know the people I train where they know my potential, and that's all really that matters. There are people that don't know who I am, and that's because I'm not out on the social media showing this and that. And that's the way I like it, and I'm just, I'm simple and plain, but I like to prove to myself,

more than anything that I'm the man. I like to prove it to myself first. I don't like to get ahead of myself and be like, I'm here and there, and I'm not. You know what I mean? So I'll get there, and when I get to the top of that mountain, I'll lift that belt,

and then I can rejoice a bit and have a little fun and then climb the next mountain. Yeah, but I do pay a bit of attention to that. I do, and yeah, and I keep it up here. I've been hard on you at times. You have been. I have been. I used to wonder why.

I will tell you right now it's because I can always see that there's something. I just didn't know. I was like, well, is he going to be able to accomplish all this? Because it seemed like there was a lot of hype put on you so fast. Did you think so? Did you think there was a lot of hype? I thought there was a lot of hype. But then I'm going to tell you where I saw a switch, right?

Whenever things, you fought so well in that one fight that you ultimately lost. And then I could see that there was a little bit of something different in you going forward. It was small. right but as you continued on this win streak it was a little bit more and a little you always had the power right but it was is can Carlos Olberg not get drawn

into that type of fight where it can ultimately cost them because in terms of athleticism and all of that stuff your eyes the way you move those guys really can't stay with you yeah yeah yeah I guess so I guess I'm in but yeah I think yeah like you said

but like I was saying it's just it's just me kind of putting my head down and as an athlete it's that's all that matters is you know I'm not about the the cameras and listen and and trying to be in you know in the limelight it's more just really about getting to the top of that of that mountain and that's how I like to put it is go in there prove to myself and and get what is get what is there for me. Carlos you don't feel like there was a lot of hype put on you? I don't think so I don't think there was I think at the beginning you have to just for I think as as a business you kind of have to do a bit of push and stuff and

but I don't feel like there was I don't feel like they ever really was yeah I think just because of maybe the way someone people perceive you maybe look the way you look and the way you fight everybody was like you you really have honestly fought out of like being a pretty boy to a guy that's like this dude's fucking dangerous he will knock your head off I had that my whole life I had that my whole life my entire life and I'm so used to it now that's that it's just like, it's just like, hey, I've seen this before. Like, I know, I know you're just insecure, you know? It's just like, hey, all good.

So I've left that behind me now and it's just like, all good. But you also got to be able to use that because it all adds, right? It all adds to the product of what you're trying to sell and you have to sell it. And you should because, I mean, right? You're not an ugly fella. Well, I know that's, and that's the thing is because you get put into that category, right? you get put into that category that, oh, he's a pretty boy, and he's only going to get pushed, like, you know, and we'll see how, and people just like to see you lose because of that reason. And so you just got to block that out, block that out, and then just fucking do your thing.

But I think even in that fight, right, in the darkest of times you showed that you're more than just that because you fought. And just got caught, honestly. You really just got caught. But then you go on this wind streak, right? And you ultimately find yourself now headlining in Miami, Florida, against Yuri Prohobok. All the things I said, though, where I said all those incremental improvements where you're more patient, where you're more calm, you set things up better, those are all things that will be necessary if you are to become world champion against a guy in Europe Prohaska. So when you guys get that name and you see it's Uri and it's for the belt, what do you do and your team you do internally to prepare to make sure that you aren't drawn into that firefight because there is that thing in fighters? Well, we go, you hit me?

I fought Alexander Gustafson. He cut me. I should have wrestled him. But all I wanted to do was rip his fucking head off because he cut me. How do you not get drawn into that firefight when Yuri does land? We'll just have to see what happens when we get in there. But I mean, it's like I just stick to what got me here in the first place. But then also what's helped me develop over the years.

Who knows, I may even try a few things. I mean, I can grapple if I need to. It's just that I haven't been tested there too much. And, you know, if someone wants to try, bring it. Why have we not seen more people try to wrestle you? I think it's, I don't know. Well, yeah. Hey.

Keep trying, like, I mean, keep trying, keep not doing it. It's not helping you. It ain't fucking helping you, right? You might as well try to shoot a takedown. When you look at your, what do you see? unorthodox Bushido Way mind of a fighter of a mixed martial artist

what do you see when you look at your Prohaska and what is the challenge on Saturday night I see I see yeah he's definitely a warrior and he's read all the books and and yeah he's he's exactly what everyone's been saying this week

is chaotic and he has that fire it's yeah he has that fire So here's where he is and why he is here. You know what's always interesting when I do these and I sit with you guys? You say he's chaotic. He says you're systematic. And you're going to do the same thing over and over and over

because you've learned a system of fighting that you feel comfortable in. It's always interesting, right? Because how do you not get drawn into the chaos and how does he not fall into watching you break him down in the system that you've been trained in? Yep, right. But then there's got to be a little more to that system than just following what's preconceived. Yeah, yeah.

I think it's just on the night too, right? Are you a systematic fight? Could be. Could be. Could be. Well, yeah, I think it just, I think every fight for me is just going to be different. Every opponent's going to be different. And, yeah.

That's it? Yeah. I don't want to give out too much. You don't, huh? Yeah, no, no, no, no. You kind of just think about fighting. Like, you go out there and you just go on instinct. Yeah, a bit of instinct.

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But before that, I was always street fighting, and I've always had that fight in me. So that kind of just went hand in hand, hey, you're a fighter. And I always knew that I had that man. mentality and once you have it you know you got it so went with it and um even when i was on the field i was very uh i was very uh i guess what did you say physical i was a very physical aggressive person an aggressive person for rugby league and that's aggressive on its own but the fire i had my eyes when i was playing rugby and rugby league was quite different you know it was the best when i when i met my manager he called me and he goes uh have you ever been in

street fight? I'm like, bro, I grew up in a war zone, man. He had the street fighting. You get your ass kicked every day, but you have to call on that sometimes, right? That thing that's inside of you that allows you to go and stand in front of another man that's been trained to beat you over the course of eight to 12 weeks. What does Saturday night look for you when you step into that octagon in the main event against Yuri, right? Because you have seen him fight for the UFC title on three different occasions. This is number four. Have you allowed for yourself to be there yet? Like, have you visualized it? Have you sat

and tried to put yourself in that cage on Saturday night, knowing that you're 25 minutes of less from becoming the world champion? This is something we all dream about. But now you're on the verge of that. Sure, just go in there, line them up, and when the time is right, fire. Yeah. What has been a world champion? What would that mean to you?

It means all the hard work, all the, everything that you've trained for, all the sacrifice, or the time that you've put away has paid, it's due, and you've become the best, the best in the world. You have any family coming? Bits and pieces, yeah, most of the teams here, so it's all good. Carlos, I want to ask you this because I asked Yuri the same question, because I was in the situation. You never fought Alex Pereira. Uri and I have fought the guy that vacated the belt, but there will be this thing that follows you guy,

whoever won this belt on Saturday. Well, he didn't beat Alex Pereira. right is he the real champion? Have you thought about that a little bit? Like how you're going to handle that or does that not even matter to you? Yeah, I mean, critics are critics. They're always going to say something.

They're always going to have something to say and that's what the sport really is. The entertainment side is about. It's when you're the champion, you're the champion. And when you have that gold belt, that's it. That's what I will tell them every time. I'll fight the person that's in front of me. If the dude's gone, right?

Or if there's no one to fight, then you're ready to just tell him, Yeah, fuck off. Yeah, that's the best way, right? I got my gold belt. That's it. Man, last thing before I let you go, I've seen your team in so many big fight situations. The way that you guys draw around each other,

how much impact does that have on you and as you venture on this great chance at this accomplishment? To know that the work that you put in, your team's here, you guys are all ready to go try to come, get another world championship because that city kickbox, you guys have a number of world championships. What would it mean to add another one to that legacy?

Yeah, I guess, well, yeah, everyone's added their value to this camp for us to have this world title and to bring it back to New Zealand and to have that to show to the world and give a bit more hope to the rest of New Zealand and Australia that we can do it. and from such a small country of New Zealand and bring, I guess, bring a bit more fire to what we have already. There's so much talent there that we've got that at the moment, it's this, well, there's, like everyone's, right now rugby is like the biggest sport. Everyone is quite physical, big people strong. But when they see another brown world champion from the UFC, I think that'll give them a bit more.

hope. Yeah. That's awesome. It's always good whenever you can motivate people, man. Congratulations on everything. Guys, Carlos Olberg fights for the UFC light heavyweight championship this weekend at UFC 327. Make sure you guys tune in the Paramount Plus. Don't miss it because the way him and Yuri fight, this is going to be absolute fireworks. And I can guarantee it. And now if you and Yuri go out there and start hugging each other and fighting like I did, that'd be crazy. If y'all fight look like my fights, that'll be some crazy ass shit. Be be booed. I'll booed. I'll boo you. I'll be next to the cage, boy.

You got the gold. You're good. I did, right? I did. I'll stall to the win. Nah. This guys, this will be fireworks. I promise you between these two. Make sure you guys go follow Carlos and all that he's doing. And make sure you like and subscribe to this channel. Until next time. Peace. Hey, guys, it's us. The Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick. And guess what? We created our own podcast called. Hey, Jonas.

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