The Herd with Colin Cowherd - The Daniel Cormier Show - DC CLAPS BACK at Nate Diaz for callout on Theo Von's podcast: "You're AVERAGE!"

Episode Date: April 4, 2026

Nate Diaz went on Theo Von's podcast, ‘This Past Weekend,’ and called out DC in his appearance, and Daniel Cormier is here to give his take on the viral clip. DC speaks on Nate's career and why it "doesn't compare" to the likes of Cormier's. Plus, DC addresses the money talk from Diaz, and why it's irrelevant today. And don't miss Cormier break down their fight resumes, calling Nate's career "AVERAGE." #Volume All lines provided by Hard Rock BetSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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wherever you get your podcasts the volume okay here we go again um here we go again so today's episode is brought to you by total wildness the official wireless provider of ufc they are in your corner with unlimited 5g data that will not slow you down now that is a total power move and And yesterday are, yeah, I get this stuff constantly, right? Because every time somebody addresses me in a certain manner, I get the links of this stuff. And yesterday was Nate Diaz that decided to come at me again because that's just what he does. Take a listen. This is Nate, talking himself into an argument on Theo Von's podcast with me.

and addressing me and Michael Bisbing, there you go, take a listen. They go out and give criticism to a fighter like an analyst. I'm like, you were never even a fighter. If that's what you do, you're a bitch,

and you're going to analyze and talk about how fighter, on what they should do, and you know it all? You know it all? Well, what the fuck happened in your career then? Why are you an analyst now,

Mr. Know-it-all? It's talking about DC and shit. Uh, all of them. You're going to talk about people fighting those that kind of my fucking, need their asses beat. So Nate is, I don't think,

I don't even know if he was prompted to ask, asked about fighters that become analysts, but then he starts to address us with analysts. So the last time Nate did this, right? Nate called me a, this was my response. I'm a lot of things, guys. But one thing I'm not is nobody,

when did it become okay for men to start calling each other out of their name like that? That's not cool, man. And to say I'm not a fighter is just, I don't get it because again, I feel like I was actually pretty fair to this dude. But the reality is the one thing we will not do is compare myself to Nate Diaz because it's different levels. Much different.

I'm a champion. Two weight classes. I lost three times in my career. Four, if you count the fight that was called in no contests. We're not in the same stratosphere in terms of fighters. I'm doing my job. I'm not a b***. I'm not going to disrespect nobody.

And I'm not going to sit up there and just get the disrespected by these dudes. But to call me a name like that is to say the boy ain't deal with the boy. Did? Louise's going to pull up a whole bunch of videos and run a highlight rule of what I did in my career. And in those pictures, going to be a lot of belts and a lot of championships. I fought the best.

Nate, here's the deal. I ain't got a problem with you. When I see, hey, I'm going to tip my hat off to you. If you want to say something to me, come up to me. Tell me. Tell me what the issue is. We can discuss it. Like men.

I thought I was very respectful in the way that I addressed it, right? When he said, I can't fight. and all this, then you start to put our careers next to each other. And obviously, there is a ocean of difference between me and his career. But this one is centered around money. And this one is centered around, it was very specific. So what I will say is he's thought about this, right?

Granted, he yelled at the end, I didn't want to say all this, cut it out. Obviously, that's never getting cut when there's a live mic in front of you in that. Nate Diaz, I think, is reacting to what I said about him and Mike Perry's fight and saying that I was excited about it because I know exactly what it is, right? He said we pretend to know everything when in reality we don't. I don't know everything. I don't know everything about fighting. But what my job is to try and educate people who may not be as close to it as I am in terms of. of what fighting looks like inside the octagon.

We all think that we watch it. And we all think that we know what we're doing. When in reality, there are some details inside of fighting that is just known at a different level. That's it. That's my job. That's my job to do. Nate clearly doesn't like when we do that job. I'm talking me, Dominic Cruz, Michael Bisping, Paul Felder, all these different people.

He went on to say, why am I analyzing fights now? when I was a champion because I didn't make as much money as him. But when you list the people that are analyzing fights, there is one big, striking thing that's familiar and is that we were champions, at least for the most part, Michael Bishpig, Dominic Cruz, and Daniel Cormier. There's a way to go about getting to that job to get that position and sit in that chair.

Me, I sit on the A team of the UFC. I sit on the pay-per-views. on the big events. I am tasked with a job to help. That's what I do. It's what I love to do. It's not because I didn't make any money. I mean, come on.

When you fight for belts as many times as we did, you make your money. But when guys start arguing, and I told John Jones this at Alf Reality, right? When you got two guys that have made millions of dollars and you're arguing about who has a million dollars more than the other, or five or two or three, like you're two people that are doing really good in life.

Why can't that be happy? I believe that the lowest form of insult is when you have one guy that's doing really well. And so the other guy that is doing really well by saying, I've made more money than you because at what point, at what point does having money mean you just have money? I mean, seriously. And I made the most money in my biggest fights. I fought John Jones, and that's why I made the most money. Nate Diaz fought Connor McGregor.

When Nate Diaz was fighting, when Nate Diaz was fighting before he fought Connor McGregor, he could not have said, I made more money than anybody. He was making good money, but Conna McGregor, as he has done with many people, elevated Nate Diaz, and that's good for him because he made money. I don't, I don't dislike, I don't wish for one guy to make less money. I don't want fighters to make less. I heard Nate Diaz is making $10 million to fight on this fight card. Yes, to me, that makes me happy. That makes me happy. But again, it's not like I'm sitting over here struggling.

I'm doing fine. I'm happy in my life. Now, look, last time I told Nate Diaz that you will not compare us. Let's do that for a second. Let's compare us. John Jones, Steve Amy Ochich. That's it. That's it.

Koji Oashi, Hermes Franca, Clay Gwita, Joe Stevenson, Gray Maynard, Rory McDonald, Benson, Henderson, Josh Thompson, Dosanjos, Connor McGregor, Mazvedol, Leon Edwards. That's 13 times. And I'm looking on this, and that's 13 times to 13 people. Did he, did he have any rematches in there? 13 times to 13 people. This is mine. This is who I lost to.

That's who I lost to, two. Two, two people. I in my life, guys, and I'm telling you, for me, it's hard for me to me to fathom losing to 13 people in the sport that you chose. And when I lost those fights, I was in my mid-to-year. late 30s, mid to late 30s, and two dudes were able to get me. Lost to 13 people, you were losing fights in your 20s. You were in your absolute athletic prime in the sport that you chose,

and you got beat multiple times by all these people. Now, hey, I was being respectful. I was being respectful. I was being respectful. I was respectful the first time I'm respectful of what y'all were doing the last time. But you lost to 13 people in the last. in the sport that you chose. That to me is crazy.

I said yesterday it's impossible. Somebody correct to me, they said, no, it's not impossible. You can lose that many times. But you go tell Ilya to pour you, there are 13 men in the sport that he chooses that can beat him or Islamachia or some of the other fighters around the world.

There are so many people that cannot lose to 13 different people, especially in their athletic prime. Maybe it's not impossible. But I mean, come on. That's crazy. All right, guys, so the final four set, you got Yukon, Illinois, Michigan, and Arizona, and our good friends at Hard Rock Bet, as always, are trying to hook you up.

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This is what I do. I love that. Nate Diaz is 40 years old and he's going to make $10 million to fight. And I am happy for him. When I was 40 years old, that's the fight he was talking about when he said I was picking the guy up and then I was knocked out. When I was 40 years old, I was in Anaheim fighting for the UFC Heavy League Championship. When I was 41 years old, I was fighting for the UFC Championship.

That's what I keep telling you guys. That's what I keep telling you, Nathan, we are different people. We're different people. It's kind of surprising that we've never really come across each other. I actually walked through a lobby in the Red Rock Hotel and Nate Diaz was there sitting there. I didn't talk to him. I actually kind of wish now that I would have stopped and talked to him, just to kind of say, hey, what's up, man?

Because I don't know, I don't know why the issue started. Maybe it's my friendship with Habib and him, and I will ride with them as long as I can. Forget this dude if that's the problem. But I should have stopped and said, hey, what's up, man? But I didn't because I just did. I don't know, I don't know why I just didn't. And I said he was fun.

I said he worked his way to a title. I like all the talk in the way he is. It's still just not the same. It's just not the same. And then you get these people that kind of support him. And then I love all you guys going, this dude, y'all are you're crazy, Nate, D.C. and you're different. Hey, come on. I made more money.

Well, you made more money in two fights. You fought Connor. You fought Connor. And also, we don't know what we made. I don't know what he made. I know what I made. And I'm completely happy with what I made. I don't know what Nate Diaz made.

But this dude is like, he sits up there and he talks. and he talks and he rants. He just kind of loses his mind. Somebody got to check him. At this point, he might need a handler. Because guess what? There's a chance he goes and gets beat by Mike Perry. I was there when they had to throw the towel in for Josh Thompson.

He said, you cried. Nate, maybe you should have cried more than maybe we would think you care about winning and losing. Maybe if you cried. Maybe if you cried, Nathan, you wouldn't be so okay with losing. Huh? Huh? Because I cried because losing to me was like death. That's why I cried.

You don't cry. You go to the after party. You go hang out with your friends. You get beat on a Saturday. On Monday you're talking again like you're the best in the world. Maybe if you cry, we would think that you cared and winning and losing really mattered. Because I'm telling you,

don't feel like it when it comes to you. Go make your money. do well for your family, your wife and your children, because there's a side of the ideas that most people don't know. You're a family man. You're not a thug. Go make your money for your family. I'm happy for you.

But maybe you should have cried. Or maybe you do what you have to do to make sure you don't have to cry whenever you fight this dude in a couple months. Because guess what, for everything I say to by Mike Perry. And Mike Perry must understand what I said because Mike Perry and I will message each other back and forth, and he respects it. And we're going to do a podcast.

I'm not disrespecting Mike. He's real, though, and he understands. But you up here acting like, you mad because somebody talking about how you're average. Reality is your average. You've always been. But you've made a lot of money. That's good. But you're average.

You can talk all you want now, but it'll never change the fact. that you can't go back in time. We can't go back in time and make you better than you were. So you keep punching above your head, right? You punch at Habib, not the same. Abib should have never paid attention to you. You were never going to get there.

You punch at Justin Gaichi. You punch at my man, Dustin Porier. You're punching above your head. All these dudes had titles. Let it go. Let it go. guys, I hate when I got to do this. I'm telling you, I hate when I got to do this.

And again, I don't dislike Nate Diaz. But that's my real feelings. That's how I feel about Nate. And I will tell Nate the same thing to his face. And guess what? I'm not going to jump around and act like I'm going to fight him in the street and have an entourage of people jumping, screaming, throw and stuff.

I'm not doing all that. But if you ask me what I feel about him in his career in my face, I will tell him your average, because that's exactly what you're. you where you won 21 fights and you lost 13. To a guy like me, that seems impossible. Maybe it's not, but to me, it seems impossible. And I will say that to your face as I say it in front of this YouTube channel.

I hate when I got to do this guy. I don't like doing it. I don't like doing it. But like my man, Dean Thomas said, at times they get a little comfortable. And this dude getting way too comfortable. He's playing around, playing around. That's why I've been asking me disrespecting him like that. because at the end of the day

Ben will tell you the same thing he's average but hey I'll watch him fight I will still watch him fight and if that means it gets more money more power to you Nate but at the end of the day you have money

I have money we're both fine my family's fine my kids are fine your family's fine your kids are fine be happy stop hating and dude went up there yesterday

and just was hating on everybody everybody punching above his lead just punching I mean, just punching up like this. Punch it to the ceiling. Like, come on, man. Guys, until next time, like, subscribe,

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