The Herd with Colin Cowherd - The Daniel Cormier Show - DC on Joaquin Buckley & Shakur Stevenson UFC-boxing BEEF, MVP's DISAPPOINTING next fight

Episode Date: February 14, 2026

Daniel Cormier IS BACK to react to Joaquin Buckley and Shakur Stevenson having their PUBLIC BEEF between boxing and the UFC. DC takes Buckley's side, despite their differences in the past. Cormier says he's ALL FOR BUCKLEY talking smack to Stevenson, because today's boxing is NOWHERE NEAR the level of the UFC. Plus, DC gets into Michael Venom Page's next fight against Sam Patterson, going in on why this fight is so strange and unnecessary for MVP's career path in the UFC. #Volume All lines provided by Hard Rock BetSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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but also don't seem to match where you think your career is. Luis, he's going to throw me some of these opponents in the chat here in a second, but I'm talking Michael Venn and Piers. So Michael Venom Page is, as you guys all know, a guy that's a tremendous fighter, a guy that was in Bellator as a champion, came to the UFC, has really beaten some decent guys, but also made them look confused. Michael Vindam Page is also a guy that carries a star quality of bottom net, people seem to want to be around him.

But Michael Vindam Page is also a guy that has a style that is very, very difficult to prepare for and very, very difficult to get a victory old, which in turn leads to difficulties matching him. Sean Shelby is one of my buddies. I think that he is as good as his job as anyone in the business, learned from Joe Silva before Joe Silver retired, and really has done a good job with this. He has the best seats and travel. It's a a great job to have. I do not envy Sean Shelby when I'm trying to book Michael Vennem Page. Let me tell you why, right? Michael Venom Page, when he came from Bellator, his first fight in the UFC was when he first got to the UFC, okay, he fought against Kevin Holland. I remember that. He had a great big

entrance, and then when you watch the fight, Kevin Holland was almost visibly frustrated. because he couldn't get a bite on him. He just could not figure out Michael Vinn and Page. It was hard for him to find a way to fight him because the style is so different and so unique to who MVP is. Wasn't the most fun fight. But again, it was a classic MVP fight that when you have watched him since Bellator

and some of the great performances he had in his career, you see how he would confuse these guys and it would really struggle to kind of figure him out. outside of the wrestlers, which led to his second fight. You get a big step up. You get Ian Machado Gary, who was undefeated at the time, and who had all this hype. Michael Venham Page's style in the way that he goes about his business was so hard that even Ian Machado Gary turned into a wrestler.

He even turned into a wrestler, having to take him down to try to figure out how to approach MVP, because it's that hard. It's that hard a style to go about trying to get a victory over. So he and Michelle O'Garry took him now, which was the right decision he got the victory. Then he gets shower bullet, right? Because as you guys know, in fighting or in the UFC, if you have paid attention, if you have paid attention, you know that when a guy takes a loss to a guy like Gary who is on the rise, then you say, okay, let's put him in with another young guy,

see if that young guy can get over him, use himself to propel himself over the old guy. Shara Bullet, who to that point was destroying guys, looking like a future guy that was going to challenge, MVP beats him in the same exact way, where Shara Bullet is just kind of standing in front of him, taking pictures. I always say, you can't take pictures in the octagon. You cannot be in awe of what the person is doing in front of you.

But with MVP, we have seen it time and time again. He did it to Holland. He did it to Shower Bullet. and then he did it to Jared Canoneer. Jared Canaaner is historically one of the toughest, most difficult guys in the UFC to fight. He's so big, he's so strong, he's so powerful. He's fought at heavyweight.

He's fought at 205. And he's a middleweight who has fought for the UFC championship and done amazing things. Same thing. So you see guys, and they just don't know how to fight him. So when it's time to match him, when it's time to match him, you start going on names,

and people start saying, No, as MVP said. He goes, I can't get fights. He told MMA junkie. I can't get fights. And then he got a fight, right? But the fights against Sam Patterson. No disrespect to Sam Patterson.

He has looked really, really good. He has been really, really tough. And he's a kid that has potential, right? But honestly, he's not a guy that you would expect Michael VIII. Venom Page to be fighting, right? Page said that he thought that it was a very surprising matchup because he's unranked. He's unknown to the public. But MVP, you know, he goes, I don't want to get in the career of his trajectory, but I've got to win.

So when talking to MMA junk, he said, Sam's a dangerous guy, up and coming fighter, even for those who don't know him, he's a lovely kid. I'm literally a supportive of his and I want him to, obviously not against me, do well, progress even after this fight. I really want him to continue to succeed, grow and show his talents because he's a dangerous kid, which also makes the fight much more difficult. People think I'm naturally, people I think are naturally going to assume and expect me to win this fight when I know the person I'm facing.

He's not well-known in competition to myself, comparison to myself. He's super dangerous, super talented, so it's going to be a difficult fight. Literally, the first three fights I believe, he set on training with Sam Patterson, Holland Gary Bullitt. I know him well. He knows me well. And this is why for him, he even messaged me to be like, do you know about this? I was like, I didn't know.

I was away in Thailand. He told me I've been offered a fight. So yeah, I think for both of us, it wasn't the most ideal. But after they talked, we were like, look, it feels like this is what they're pushing. Let's just respectfully with love, go in there and put on the show and made the best win. When, we just keep it moving. So Paige seemed disappointed in having the fight a kid he knows. But I feel, and I really can't speak for the man, the disappointment comes from fighting Ian Gary, Shara Bullitt,

Ian Gary, Shara Bullitt, Kevin Holland, Jared Kannonner, Sam Patterson. That is where the disappointment comes if it was me. Because I would have thought that after fighting a guy that just fought for the World Championship, I would get to fight someone else. Look, Sam Patterson's won four straight fights by finishes. So there is a element of danger to him. But let's not forget, Sam Patterson in his UFC, they'd be like, they lost. I think he got knocked out or something like that.

I'm not exactly sure. I think I called it. It was on a pay-per-view back in the day. But you look at the people that MVP has fought, right? and you expect a step up, especially, especially with where he's been and where he expects to go going forward. I think it makes sense. I think it would make sense even if he was a little bit let down by the matchup. But again, I don't want to be Sean Shelby because how hard would it be to match up a guy that seems to be so difficult to fight?

so now we end up with him versus Sam Patterson. Sam Patterson wins his fight. It's great for him. MVP wins his fight. Then what is next? Because if you can't get a fight after beating Jared Cannoneer, I don't know how much easier is going to get people to say yes to a fight after you fight San Patterson.

I think it puts a little pressure on him to go out there and do something. something spectacular. Like I said, maybe the fight isn't as high profile, but maybe it's an opportunity for him to do something spectacular. He hasn't had a finished since Bellator. But if he doesn't, then it just kind of follows the path of what his career has been. So I don't know, man, puts a little pressure on MVP, but just looking at him, he looked a little disappointed that that was the fight that he was getting. Okay, guys, so the Super Bowl just happened. But our good friends are hard rock bet want to remind you that you can double your winnings on your first 10 bets on the NBA, on the on MMA, on all the other sports. So while we might be a little bit sad that the football

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Like, it doesn't have to be boxing because the reality is there's no big fights. like there were in the past. Hey, I want to be the boxing of the 70s and 80s and 90s. If I was trying to be boxing, I would want to be boxing of that era and of that time. Boxing today isn't necessarily what I would want to be and what it used to be because there just aren't enough stars to make big fights. There aren't enough big events to make us go back to the days

when Ali was fighting or when Tyson was fighting or when you had the four kings and they were all fighting each other. I'm talking even the days of Lennox Lewis being the heavyweight champion, even the Klitsko brothers, it was different back then. Those fights brought more attention and they felt bigger. I understand today that when Canelo fought Terrence Crawford, it felt like a big event. But honestly, when I get super excited for these boxing fights, until you get young, exciting prospects that want to go out there and try to knock people out like the guys from the past, you're going to get the fight that we got where Terrence Crawford, who showed once again why he is the best, he just controlled Canelo Alvarez, who's the biggest star of this generation.

And it's just not that fun. Honestly, it just wasn't that fun. Whereas when you get to the UFC, it's more fun, it's more exciting, and it's just better. And Joaquin Buckley was right. It's just better. And I love boxing. I've got great friends in boxing. Andre Ward's a great buddy of mine in boxing.

I loved watching him fight. But boxing today just isn't what boxing was before. And hats off to Joaquin Buckley for calling that shit out because he should have called it out. We aren't boxing. The UFC's better. That's just the God honest truth. It's the God on his truth. So is what it is.

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