The Herd with Colin Cowherd - The Daniel Cormier Show - DC on WILD Khamzat Chimaev & Sean Strickland BEEF + Chimaev vs. Pereira at 205

Episode Date: February 26, 2026

Daniel Cormier IS BACK with another brand new edition of The DC Show, where he talks about Khamzat Chimaev and why the UFC's middleweight champion might be ready for a move to 205 pounds. After seeing... viral video of him sparring against both Khalil Rountree and Luke Rockhold, see why Cormier is ALL IN ON Khamzat making that move up to light heavyweight to potentially fight Alex Pereira. Plus, DC gets into the most recent beef between Sean Strickland and Chimaev, and why that fight is on the horizon. #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:32 Gambler. All right, guys, welcome to a brand new episode here at the Daniel Cormier show. Brought to you by Total Wireless, the official wireless provider of UFC. They're in your corner with unlimited 5G data that will not slow you down. And that, my friends, is a total power move. Hey, you know, it's a power move? These guys just changing weight classes and changing weight classes so fast. But not only are they changing weight classes, they seem to be growing into the weights
Starting point is 00:04:05 at an unbelievable rate. Hamzaa Chimayev is thinking of going to 205. Alex Pereira was on a scale at 245 pounds. These guys look like they belong in these weight classes and they've not even fought there. To think that Alex Pereira at 1.5 at 185 is the craziest thought of all time. But today's video is going to be sitting around the idea
Starting point is 00:04:32 that Hamzat Chimayev wants to fight at 205. When Hamzaa Chimaya started expressing interest in fighting at 205, I was a bit hesitant because it wasn't that long ago that he was fighting at 170. Most 205 pounders myself, when I was fighting in this weight class, could never have touched 170 pounds as an adult. I was 170 when I was in high school. Once I was done with 171 as a sophomore in high school, I never made that weight again. I was too good. I was too big. So I thought that if Hamzat was to fight at 205, he would be running up against guys that would be just too big for him. And at some point, that has to become an issue. Then I saw a video of him
Starting point is 00:05:21 sparring with Khalil Rauntree. His back looked massive. He looks like a 205 pound fighter already. And then I watched a video of him sparring with Luke Rockhold, who is all of six foot four and 227 pounds right now. I'm not talking about the skill level of rock hole today. I'm talking about the size of rock hole today. Hamza Tchamayev look just as big, if not bigger. Then when you watch the videos, you watch the sparring, you watch him in Kaliluilu Rang Tree striking, striking.
Starting point is 00:05:59 And if they're not drilling, and Luis will put this video for you to see, I'm not an untrained eye. it looks to me like Hamzad is winning the striking against Kalil Rangtree who is an amazing striker. I'm watching him kick with Luke and he's kicking with the same power as Luke. I got to be honest, guys. I don't know that this kid could not fight at 205 pounds. I really do believe that he's able to fight in this weight class.
Starting point is 00:06:34 When he picked me up in Chicago, I felt he was stronger than he was when he's fighting at 1-7. There's a video of him and I grappling way back in Abu Dhabi back in the day. Then when he picked me up in Chicago, I felt he was stronger. But watching him next to these big guys now, I am really starting to believe that he can fight at 205. And when you look at the 205-pound champion, Alex Pereira, obviously, he's 245 pounds. He's huge. He's massive. but he still doesn't wrestle, right?
Starting point is 00:07:06 Pereira's not a guy that wrestles. He's shown take down defense. He's shown that if he hits you, he can put you out completely. Like, you're done. But he's not a guy with a wrestling background, and we have seen what Hamzad have done to guys without wrestling backgrounds.
Starting point is 00:07:19 I am telling you, I'm watching this, and I'm thinking to myself, might be a 205 pounder. Now, granted, there's business to be done at 185. You know, Nasredina Mahavov has earned his title opportunity. He's earned his chance to fight for that belt. And I'd imagine that Hamzad is here in the United States preparing for that
Starting point is 00:07:41 fight with him off. That would be my guess if I am thinking about what's next. But the reality is, one, how difficult it's going to be for him to get back down to 185? Because I'm telling you, he looks massive next to round tree. Two, how will he compete when he's back down there? And three, how does Amavov deal with the size of Hamzaa Chamaev at this point? Because while Amov was a 185 pound, Hamzaa was at 170, Chimov looks like the bigger guy. He looks like the much bigger fighter. Now, I'm telling you, you guys have to watch, have to watch that training footage.
Starting point is 00:08:23 He looks like a monster at over 200 pounds. Hamzaa Chimai also has the Sean Strickland issue to deal with at 185. These guys cannot stand each other. Look, guys, when you are two athletes of the highest caliber and you have trained together and you have fought in sparring, one of those guys knows or someone knows exactly what happened. But as most say, what happens in the gym stays in the gym, that's the only reason nobody's spoken up. Now, Sean has his story. Hamzat has his story and they're going back and forth.
Starting point is 00:09:00 So when Sean Strickland was acting about training with Hamzat Shmive, he said, I made him quit at his UFC Houston Post Fight Media Scrum. He goes, witnesses in the audience. He said, where's Eric Nixigat? He said, I made him quit. No, we were doing positional grappling, start on my back. I was like, first round, I let him choke me because who gives a F? He goes, but let me tell you about that little bitch. I'll tell you, when I walk into a gym, do you think that I go and find the little weakest man?
Starting point is 00:09:29 I say, let's spar. I find the biggest baddest MFer, and I'm like, hey, I want to spar you. Every time Chimaii walked in the gym, he'd pick the smallest, lowest level pro, and say, he looks like my opponent. He would pick the smallest guy. He said, Chimayev is a bully. Now, Sean Strickland is Sean Strickland, right? Sean Strickland seems to be wanting to pick a fight.
Starting point is 00:09:52 But Sean Strickland, do you guys believe would be picking a fight as strongly if he didn't feel like he might have had some success against Shemaiah? Or does Sean Strickland seem like a guy that goes, I don't care what happened in the training room. I want this next opportunity as a title. Because you can be loud, right, and boastful to earn something, even if you don't know if you can handle it. It sounds to me like Strickland feels like he can compete with Chimaya.
Starting point is 00:10:23 We haven't seen anybody do that outside of Kamar Usman. But it sounds like Strickland believes that. He's got a lot to do there. Right? Because with Strickland beating Fluffy Hernandez in the way that he did, he immediately is a contender. But, but is that one victory enough to say, once if Malvov's done, this is the guy. Well, with all is back and forth, where all is back and forth, people are more inclined to buy into it than they would be if he wasn't talking and chirping. if there wasn't bad blood, people are more open now to the idea that Sean Strickland could be the guy. But, I mean, that weight class has people that have earned a chance to fight for that belt.
Starting point is 00:11:10 I don't know if maybe Sean took some confidence from defending Fluffy, right? Because Fluffy's that guy that's known in the cardio machine and, you know, Sean was able to manage that pretty good. I thought he fought tremendous on Saturday night. I think this Chimaya fight will be a much difficult issue. But I think that this kid is big enough to compete at 205. I think that he needs, though, to handle all the business that's left at 185. And then maybe we start to see guys that could potentially fight for three belts. I mean, I think I think Ilya has the ability to fight for three belts.
Starting point is 00:11:45 I think Pereira has the ability to fight for three belts. And I think Chamea has the ability to compete in three-way classes at a very very high level. He didn't fight for about at 1-7, but he's a champ at 85, and I do believe that if he goes 205, with the state of the division and the people fighting there, he could be a real problem for guys in that weight class. Man, it's an exciting time, especially if you're team Tchaimai of, because this dude right now, he seems to have the world at his fingertips, and it doesn't seem like he's a guy that's going to take that for granted, but we'll see, we'll see what Chamaev does next. Like I said, my bet would be that it's a mob off. Let me know in the comments
Starting point is 00:12:31 who you think Jemayev could fight and how you think he would do at 205. I want to know what you guys of how he would do at 205. Until next time, guys, like, subscribe, tell your friends, tell their friends that I've got my YouTube channel and will continue to grow and expand. I'm going to keep doing videos like this and so much more. to the state tournament for me. Until next time, peace. Hey, guys, it's us. The Jonas Brothers.
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Starting point is 00:13:09 We just contributed to it out. We get to ask other people to do podcasts. We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions. Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it. But, you know, tired and sick. Tired and sick. Listen, we don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL late-night comedy guy,
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Starting point is 00:14:04 I competed there for decades. Join me, Renee Stubbs, on the Renee Stubbs' tennis podcast for no-nonsense breakdowns of the biggest matches, the toughest players, and the moments that define Roland Garris. She's an outsider to win the French name. And she likes Clay. Listen, Lerabakina is arguably the best player in the world right now, and I actually can win on any surface.
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