The Herd with Colin Cowherd - The Daniel Cormier Show - DC PREDICTS Francis Ngannou will KNOCK OUT Jake Paul EASILY after Anthony Joshua KO

Episode Date: January 2, 2026

Jake Paul wants Francis Ngannou next, and called him soft after getting knocked out by Anthony Joshua in their most recent fight. Daniel Cormier REACTS to Jake's CALLOUT of Francis, and explains why he's going to get knocked out by Francis. DC says that despite lasting more rounds against Joshua than Ngannou did, it was only because of style differences in the boxing ring. Cormier GOES IN ON why Jake Paul will once again get knocked out if he chooses to fight Francis, and breaks down the logic behind Ngannou taking that fight this coming year. #Volume  All lines provided by Hard Rock BetSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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It's cold outside. I put on my thick jacket. Look, I got the Anderson North, beautiful little, the material is crazy. I'm feeling good out of here today. But it's 40 degrees in the Bay Area. But let me tell you something. It gets hot when you start talking Jake Paul.

Because like him or not, Jake Paul got a little something with him. Now, Jake Paul just got his head bashed in by Anthony Joshua. Right? That was about as big a learning lesson that anyone could have been taught. Here's the problem. Jake Paul is proven to be.

he's proving to be one hard-headed two more bold and brave than anyone could have ever imagined now bold and brave because he fought anthony joshua to begin with bold and brave because they didn't put any things in place to make sure anthony didn't do exactly what he did to him broke his jaw in multiple places got him sucking out of straw it would seem like his bold and brave attitude really cost him. And with that bold and brave attitude, a lot of times come cowardice after. Not Jake Paul.

Not Jake Paul. You can love him. You can hate him. But he's brave. And now he's still trying to fight. I would have thought, I swear to God, guys. I would have thought that after what happened

when Anthony Joshua, Jake Paul would say, okay, let me rematch Anderson or somebody. Anderson, by the way, that if he had hit Jake Paul the way he hit Tyron Woodley the other day, would have knocked him out. because that's the Anderson Silva, we know.

But you would have thought that Jake Paul would go, you know what, I'm going to rematch Anderson. Maybe I'll go find another mixed martial arts guy that's a little bit over the hill to try to fight where it's more safe. And it's a more controlled environment because the problem with the Anthony Joshua fight is it wasn't controlled.

It was just a fight. So that's not Jake Paul, though. He immediately goes back after Francis and Ghana. him. It's crazy to me. Now, I've asked people in Francis's circle, why didn't they take the fight? Nobody really knows why. But I believe that after Anthony Joshua took the fight, Francis may be more open to fighting Jake Paul now. I think when I try to put myself in Francis's shoes, because if you recall, in the very beginning of Jake Paul was calling me and saying, talking about me, Part of the reason I was so upset was because I didn't feel like he deserved to be speaking my name because of all I had done. And I still viewed him in a certain light at the time, right?

Like celebrity boxing and stuff. But after watching what he's done now and Anthony Joshua taking the fight and making the money, maybe Francis, if he was sharing the thought that I had, is more open. to now going, man, maybe I won't make $80 million like Anthony Joshua, but I may make 20, 30, and it's less dangerous than fighting Tyson Fury or fighting Anthony Joshua because for as small as Jake looked against Anthony, he'll look equally as small against Francis and Gunn. But I think what's happening with Jake is he's wanting to show that Anthony, He did not scared into him, which in reality he probably should have knocked a little scared into him.

He's also doing like MMA or boxing math, right? He said, I told everyone that I would do better than Francis and Francis has no chin. Francis is low-key soft. I'll fight Francis. Wow, that's a good idea, actually. So now he's like all in on Francis, but he's doing that by doing MMA math. There were a lot of differences in that fight, right? A lot of differences in the fights between them two.

One, Francis didn't run the whole time. Jake did. Francis wasn't on his bike because Francis is 6-4-6-5 and believes that there isn't a man alive that could take him out. That's why he got taken out, especially after fighting Tyson Fury in the way that he did and dropping Tyson Fury the way that he did in their fight. It gave him a false sense of confidence. I think Jake Paul knew that he needed to go longer than Francis,

but also knew he didn't have the ability to put Anthony Joshua out. I do believe that if Francis hit Anthony as clean as Jake did a couple times, he could have potentially put him down. But not only do I believe that, Francis did. And that made him stand in the fight more than he should have, especially in hindsight when we know what happened. And it's an experience show. But for Jake to say Francis has no chin,

When Joshua hit him with the first real right hand, he put him down. He put him down just like he put Francis down. There is no difference. So I think this confidence is once again misguided. You don't, you don't, you don't call out of Francis and Gaunt unless you're certain you can go with him. Hey, it's us to Jonas brothers. And guess what? We have some big news.

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Many people thought Anthony Joshua had no chin because of what Andy Ruiz did to him. Turns out, he's got a decent chin. He's got a pretty good chin. And Andy Ruiz just hits hard. He's a real boxing heavyweight. Jake landed like three massive overhand rights. Anthony Joshua just looked at him and kind of kept pressing him. It's the same thing that would happen with Francis.

God, keeps calling Francis out. And in reality, if people thought there was a world where Anthony could carry him into the later rounds to make it look more competitive, Francis isn't experienced enough to do that. So every throw, every punch will be throwing the intent to knock you out. It's like Deonté Wilder. It's why I didn't want Francis to fight Deonté Wilder. because Diartei Walter does not have that control to carry you.

People say, Connor may have carried Floyd may have carried Connor. Floyd has that ability. He's that good a boxer. He's clean. He's technical. He can fight you in multiple ways. But when you get to these certain guys,

they can't because all they know is one thing. That's the danger in the Jake Paul Francis and Gano fight. It's only knockout for Big Frank. he won't pull punches Tyson Fury may not have taken Francis as serious as he should have and that's why he got hit in the way that he got hit

and dropped in the way that he got dropped. Francis don't know Jake. Francis doesn't know how to control and make sure the punches don't put your lights off. But this whole idea that I lasted longer than Francis and Ghanu, it was

Francis could have ran ran, right? Francis could have moved around the ring very well. By the way, which was a massive ring. The ring was as big as any ring I've ever seen in my life. He could have ran around the ring too. What Jake said was, Lois. What Jake said was I did better than Francis because I got knocked out in the sixth round. Louis. As opposed to the same round. This is the great. I got one more. I got one more for you. Francis is a 1500 favorite against Jake Paul early odds And Jake is a plus 600 Of course he is because he's Francis and Ganoo He's Francis and Ganoo

But this is the craziest thought I did better The I did better argument guys does not work It just doesn't It was a massive ring And he was on his bicycle And listen if you can do that for 12 rounds Sure But eventually get tired because there's nothing worse

than running backwards. There's nothing worse than getting backed up with someone putting pressure on you. It's the worst. But minus 1,500 for Francis, plus 600 for Jake. Seems about right.

Now, you could never question the boldness of Jake Paul. You could never question the toughness of Jake Paul. I question the smarts because the money will always come because now he's done that

to a point that people will always respect what he is doing. but that long-lasting damage, that doesn't fade away with time. And I don't know that Jake Paul needs that. He's a big enough star to where I don't think he needs to keep going in there with real heavyweights getting knocked out by these guys. Because Anthony Joshua was big.

And when he looked at him, he looked at his chest, that is exactly what he would look at if he fought Francis and gone. Guys, I think he needs to reconsider. And this is from a person that at one point had an issue with Jake Paul. Today, that's water under the bridge. I actually got more respect for Jake Paul than I ever thought I could because of what he's doing. But in those comments, let me know what y'all think. Should Jake Paul fight Francis?

And if he does, what's the expectation or what's the expected outcome when you guys think of it? Because, hey, Jarzino, Alistair Overeem, Steep Amiochich, all the guys. greatest mixed martial arts heavyweights Francis knocked up telling me that Tyson Fury you put down you're telling me that this kid's going to be able to fight for Anthony Nano because he did better against Anthony

Joshua. M. M.M.A. math does not work and I don't think it works in boxing either. So my working football, basketball, all those other things where you don't have to punch each other but I don't think it works in combat sports. Let me know the comments what you think. Happy New Year guys. I appreciate you. I will see you.

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