The Herd with Colin Cowherd - The Daniel Cormier Show - Justin Gaethje on putting Paddy Pimblett TO SLEEP, guarantees White House fight

Episode Date: January 24, 2026

Justin Gaethje IS BACK on the DC Check-In series with Daniel Cormier, and it starts with JG CALLING OUT DC for his comments on fighter pay! Gaethje takes on Paddy Pimblett in the main event at UFC 324 for an interim championship, and Justin speaks on why Paddy claiming he'll FINISH HIM is the recipe to him losing this fight. Plus, Gaethje talks about facing Ilia Topuria after this fight and why he's GUARANTEEING he's going to fight at the White House. And don't miss Justin completely dismiss the Jorge Masvidal-Conor McGregor fight rumors, and respond to DC hilariously calling him out for a future sparring match. #Volume All lines provided by Hard Rock BetSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I mean, you are using me for golf content. How am I going to pay for the next outing if I don't play you and take your money? You're kind of funding it even though you have no stake in the company. Wait, what? I'm fronting what? You're funding my golf experiences in golf trips by losing so much money. You know, you only pay half the time, but it is what it is. Hey, JG, today I bought you that thing, man.

I bought you that scan thing for when you lose. your golf clubs because I care. It's not going to work. It's going to work because I care. That takes somebody else going out of their way to find me and return something. They're just going to take that shit. Yeah. Okay, so I want to say this to you. You, uh, you seem confident, you seem good. You seem like Justin Gates. But Patty just left here and said that he doesn't want to say that you were necessarily nervous, but when you guys went face to face, he said you were a little twitchy and like what did you take from that face to face interaction you guys just had said you stood two minutes in front of each other

and he said he felt like yeah a little like twitchy I love everything he's saying I love everything he's saying right now I love that he says this is the same with the Michael Chandler fight I love that he says he's going to retire me I love that he says I'm nervous I love that he wasn't a mouth breather I didn't have to smell his breath um that's what I took Why do you love it? Why do you love it so much?

Because I just know that he's going to be overconfident. You know, I know that he's going to... The more nervous he thinks I am. I'm not sure if he... Again, he's like all these fans. Like, they forget who I am and what I do. Like, I'm fucking nervous to go in there. I'm content with the worst possible outcome.

How could I be nervous? You're content with the worst possible. He says he don't get knocked out, but you got a brain. And so when I make his brain touch his skull, he's going to go to sleep. You said you're comfortable with... the worst possible outcome and that's losing. Yes. How? How do you get comfortable with that? I'm not comfortable with it, but I'm okay with this.

How are you okay? How are you okay with it? Because I can only control what I can control. I control the preparation. I control my effort. I control my ability to not make mistakes. And at the end of the day, if he beats me at my absolute best, then what the fuck am I going to worry about? You know, it is what it is. This is sports crazy. I'm going to have my mom and dad and my family, my coaches. They're always going to, you know, unconditional love, unconditional support. That's why I go in there so free.

And that's why I'm not scared to fight because every single time I've ever thought, I've been okay with the worst possible outcome. And for me, that's how I do it. You know, you. And okay means I can wake up tomorrow and still have faith in myself and have faith in the process. But I'm not okay losing. I don't want to know.

No, no, I'm not saying that. I didn't mean that. I didn't mean that like sometimes people fear the worst outcome. Like, that's how come I don't have fear when I step in there. Yeah. You told me that a long time ago, well,

you don't feel anything when you go into an oxygen. And I thought to myself, this is crazy because I was like, well, what do you feel walking into an oxygen? You said nothing at all. It's just still. And it's because of that.

Because you've accepted, hey, I've done everything I can do. If I win, great. That means preparation worked. If I don't, it is what it is. I still did what I needed to do put myself in the best position.

But with that being said, right? This is a young guy that we just saw nominated a guy that you had good fight with. And he is now saying that three and a half rounds... If that fight goes in the fourth and fifth round, I kill him.

Yes. And he's saying that by three rounds, you're done. Nobody does that to you. Where's that confidence coming from? Where's that confidence coming from? I think it's It's probably what people are telling him around him.

You know, I think he's reading too many comments on the internet. And I truly believe he thinks that. And I think that who the fuck knows? How could he possibly? You know, he certainly isn't sure. And, you know, I could say the same things, being 95% sure that I'm going to knock this kid out. But I don't, I don't know. That's not how I talk.

That's not how I think. I've convinced myself that he's going to hurt me. And it allows me to be okay hurting him. Were you surprised at how he went through Michael Chandler? Were you surprised? No, no, especially when I saw Michael Chandler trying to take him down to the first round. What a fucking terrible decision. Why?

Why? Because he only got one round in him in the first place. And he's using to try to take a guy down that's a judicious player. Like, you either knock him out or conserve energy. And we know Michael Taylor does not conserve energy. As much as I love the kid, you know, he ain't learned. He ain't learned nothing. You know, you fought so many championship fights.

You fought 25 minutes. You've been in there with the best of the best that this division has to offer for a really long time. Patty Pimler hasn't fought a guy in the top 10 yet. Do you think that experience will play a part or in the top 10 right now? Mike might have been top 10 when they fought, but do you think that all of that experience will play a part in the way that this fight plays out for you this weekend? Yeah, I can only hope so, right? Ultimately, it doesn't matter.

25 minutes in time. And that's all that matters is being perfect for 25 minutes, January 24th, probably around 8.15 p.m. Oh, it's not, it's an hour earlier now. The fights will happen. Yeah. Yeah, they start at 6 p.m. Are you, did you do anything to prepare for that?

Change of training times, anything? I only trained during the day. Nighttime is for killing people. So this week I have, you know, started training around 8 p.m. Justin, last time we spoke, you and I spoke about the last sparring session we had and how dominant I was. In this camp, did you, in this camp, shut up, did you prepare? And do you feel like if we were to do it again, that you would stand a better chance of at least competing with me and sparring? I mean, you're a wrestling, so

Unfortunately, you're a heavyweight wrestler So there's weight classes for a reason And I think I would have a difficult time Yeah With your big ass I think I will finish you I mean, I'm finishing you man By what?

I'm finishing you, man I'm finishing you, Douglassing. You're going to double leg be so hard I'm finishing you I'm finishing you I just got to find your liver I just got to find your liver I just don't know if I can create the amount of torque

that I need to get through your body. Oh, so you're calling me fat. Oh, how original. That's very original, Justin. I didn't call you fat. That's exactly what you're alluding to. Hey, J.C., the first time you won the interim championship, he said, I don't really want this.

This is not my goal. What is the response to becoming the interim champion on Saturday? Does it differ being that you're much longer in your career? Yeah, you know, the older, the wiser. I definitely, you know That shit was weird There was nobody, there was not one fan In the arena that was probably a factor

You know that nobody thinks about It was different. It was during COVID I knew that Kabib was there I knew how good Khab was So I mean even though I have ELEA after this It's different because ultimately I know That I achieved championship

pay Because undisputed And the interim belt is the same on paper and so I will appreciate that. What do you make of the armin thing? Even though my friends, like Dan and Cormeet will lie and say that I'm getting more money. Hey, what do you make of this whole situation with Sarukian? Like, what do you make of you win the belt on Saturdays?

You don't care. I don't give a shit. Why would I care? It doesn't bother me. It doesn't affect me. Yeah. It is what it is. He shouldn't be headbutton people.

He shouldn't be pulling out of fights the night before title fights. It is what it is. I think he's very good. I think is very dangerous. I think all the guys in the top five can beat each other on any given night. And thank God I like to gamble. And I'm going to bet on myself whenever I have a chance. And this is another chance on Saturday to bet on myself and walk into the fire.

And you said you would love the anxiety that a fight with the poor you would give you because you live for that adrenaline. You're kind of an adrenaline junkie. I've seen you do some crazy stuff outside of the public eye to just kind of. scratch that itch. That's why I have a hard time believing that you'd be afraid of anything going into a fight. You do some crazy shit, man. Yeah, I don't think I'll be afraid. I just think I'll be... I'm talking about Patty this weekend. I'm talking about Patty this weekend. I'm excited. I'm just more excited. Yeah. What some people call fear, I call excitement. Yeah. Yeah, because you're so crazy too. I mean, I'm telling you. Last thing, last thing before I let you go. Hey, Jorge

Masmadal versus Kana McGregor at the White House? That's what you want to say? You're like a... What are you talking about? Is that what you want to see? I want to see. Why would you make that up for me?

No, because that's a fight that's potentially in the works. No. No, I don't want to see what. You're the biggest American star right now. You need to be on the White House card, right? Yeah, well, if they're on the card, that doesn't affect me.

I will still be on the card. You're going to be at the Washington? I will be on that card. 100%. All right, man. Well, I'll hold that to you. Oh, my. Could you imagine the golf course we could play in Washington, D.C.? If you're not, I'm rooting for you not being on the White House card so we can play golf in Washington, D.C. Me and Kayla Harrison will be fighting for a championship on the White House side. Book it? Book it. Book it. Guys.

All right, they don't take a picture. I don't give a... Guys, Justin Gathe fights for the answer of U.S. Lightweight Championship this weekend against Patty to Batty Pimbled at UFC 324. Make sure you get your Paramount Plus subscription today. No more pay-per-view, guys. If you get your subscription, you get to watch the craziest human being walking God's green earth

going to an octagon and do exactly what he does every single time. Until next time, guys, tell your friends to tell their friends that I've got a YouTube channel. And I'm checking in with guys like the highlight, Justin Gage. Hey, bro, you know today I was at this thing, PGA, five people, five, came up to me and asked me about Dustin Jacoby.

Dustin Jacoby's out there pretending. He's the best golfer in the UFC. Five people. He has the lowest handicap in the UFC. I'm a 6.5. He's a 6.2. Daniel Cormey is a 26.3. And it's crazy how many strokes we have to give you.

But if you're, I mean, I've never missed a chance to tell people how bad you cheat. And that's a 26.4 three while cheating. You've just fucking yourself. You're really like a 30.2. Good luck this weekend, fool. I'll talk to you next time. Until next time, guys. Take your anxiety medication.

I'm going to get your heart racing, buddy. Yeah, I can't wait. I cannot wait. You know, man, J.G. All right. Good luck, buddy. Bye-bye. Hey, guys, it's us.

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