The Herd with Colin Cowherd - The Daniel Cormier Show - Paddy Pimblett on Justin Gaethje's OVERRATED POWER, Ilia Topuria, BEEF with Arman

Episode Date: January 23, 2026

Paddy Pimblett IS BACK on the DC Check-In with Daniel Cormier, this time ahead of a massive interim title fight between him and Justin Gaethje at UFC 324 in Las Vegas. Paddy tells DC why Justin Gaethj...e's "overrated" power won't stop him from striking and looking for a knockout victory. Pimblett also doubles down on the fact he will finish Justin in the first three rounds and become champion. Paddy also dismisses Ilia Topuria's claim to return in March or April, and see why he GOES OFF ON Arman Tsarukyan and the fact he'll fight him ANYTIME. #Volume All lines provided by Hard Rock BetSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:19 Okay. Good, man, good. Listen, there's one thing I got to tell you that I'm very surprised. So I'm in Florida, right, at an appearance. And the company, Anderson Ord, the daughter was like, I love Patty Pimble. I'm like, but how? Like, come here, come and stay high.
Starting point is 00:02:38 Patty how like what what do you think say hi to patty philly right yeah good okay you get you get talk to you got to you got to you got to you got to you got to betty betty she got dressed but let me ask you question how did you how are you making this connection with these kids like that because i remember in miami you said to me it's infectious the music the energy wait until you experience my walkout the kids now bro from my wrestlers to even like here they're like we love patty pimblit like how did you make the connection with these young kids like that just by being myself don't what i mean i i i still feel like a young kid myself still feel 18 in the in the brain so i'm just like one of them where um yeah as i say just
Starting point is 00:03:29 being myself and not being fake i think that's the main part of people actually liking you yeah They are really drawn to you in the Patty Pimlet train. And, you know, we spoke by this last time. It hasn't always been easy. But now you find yourself in a big spot. Your last fight, you and I sat in that hotel in Miami, right? We were off on the corner because they were telling us, be quiet. We were talking too loud.
Starting point is 00:03:55 We do the interview, and you sat there and you told me, D.C. In your Patti Pimlet accent, I am going to smash this dude. I was like, come on, man. This is Michael Chandler. This dude has not been beat. He's always in a close match. He's always good. He's tough.
Starting point is 00:04:09 You said, I am going to destroy him. And you did. Was there a moment in there where it kind of got a little, it was going a little better than you could have even as anticipated? No, it started off a little waste I anticipated. I should have finished him faster. I started a little bit slow in that fight. But as I say, I knew what I was going to do to him.
Starting point is 00:04:34 I knew that I was going to beat him. up. I just knew and I know the same's going to happen this Saturday. You know, you picked him up and you took him down and you controlled him and beat him up on the ground. This guy's an NCAA All-American. So is Justin Gagey. You are some claims, Patty. The claims that you're going to destroy Justin in that way, it gets met with resistance. Where's the confidence come from? I've just always had this weird form of self-belief, but I'm not going to. I'm not going to. confidence in any other walk of life. I'll be honest, I'm only confident when it comes to fighting
Starting point is 00:05:09 because I know how good I am at it. I know how good I am at mixed martial art. So I'm super confident and I think that's why I'm so good because of how confidence I am in myself. I keep seeing people lately saying I won't be able to take Justin Gagey there, just like he said, I wouldn't be able to take Michael Chandler there? But we'll see on Saturday night, won't we? But what if you can't take him down? Can you stand and strike? with Justin Gage? Yeah, I know for the fact I can. He went life and death with Michael Chandlerlard.
Starting point is 00:05:42 I don't know what I mean? He nearly got knocked out by Chandler who's got arms this long. So like, imagine what I'm going to do to him. You know, when you got the title fight, right, there was a lot of people, oh, it shouldn't have been this guy. And I was actually on the phone the other day, or no, on an interview and he said,
Starting point is 00:06:02 if Armand, well, Armand just beat Patrick. or so I was like, oh, he's very good, but nobody just beats Patty Pimlet. Do you feel like you're starting to get that respect from people? It doesn't even matter because I know when I watch, I'm watching you and saying there is no easy knife against Patty Pimble because of what I saw in the last fight. Yeah, it doesn't matter what people are saying. People have doubted me in my whole career. Like, ever since I started fighting an amateur level when I was a little kid, everyone's always doubted me. but I use them as motivation
Starting point is 00:06:35 and push me on and make me do even better and it's worked for years and years, you know, people keep going on about Armin, lad. Shut up about him. People actually like Armand now because they hate me. That's the only reason he's got some fans
Starting point is 00:06:53 where I have love eight relationship with people, some people love me, some people hate me. People have only jumped on the Armand train who hate me and want to see me fail. That's the only reason Norman's got fans. No one likes him. Why don't you like Armand so much, man?
Starting point is 00:07:08 Hey, can I ask you what? He's a spoiled little bitch. No what I mean? He's had everything handed to him on a silver platter his whole life with caviar served on the side. He doesn't know what it are days' work is. He wouldn't know what it's like being from Liverpool. No what I mean? Stick Armenian here up your ass, your little crab.
Starting point is 00:07:29 What is a what is a posh boy? Why do you call this man Pots Boy? What is that? Don't have you said Posh boy in America, no. No, we don't say Posh Boy. What is the Posh boy? You know what I've heard, Posh Spice? Posh Spice, David Beckham's wife.
Starting point is 00:07:47 She's posh. She grew up posh with a dad with loads of money who drove the Rolls Royce. Did you see when David Beckham checked her on them? They were on the documentary. Yeah, that's what I mean. Like, and that's what I mean? saying that his dad will transfer him 500K
Starting point is 00:08:06 if he asked for a new car that's just a spoiled little bitch I don't mean he's never wanted for any other than his life so it would seem like fighting armin would be easy right because you have these feelings about him what about justin
Starting point is 00:08:20 do you have those feelings about justin or no no i don't have any animosity towards justin at all we've just had to do a little paramounting then and we had to stare at that lad the others about this far apart from each other staring at each other for two minutes straight and we were like, Jesus,
Starting point is 00:08:37 are we going to have to kiss here or something? What did that feel like you? What did you take from that? At first interaction, being that close to him in that way? I don't want to say, I don't know, he was nervous because it's just engaged a lad and he's four to everyone, so he's not going to be nervous to fight me,
Starting point is 00:08:55 but he was a little bit twitchy, you know what I mean? I was just staring at him. He was like a little bit moving, his arm a little bit twitchy. But his neck's very long, isn't he? Got a long neck. I've never noticed that he has a long neck.
Starting point is 00:09:13 Yeah, he's got a long neck, lad, which will not help him with a joke. So you're saying that under three rounds, you will put Justin Gates out. We have not really seen that happen. Even the fight with Max Holloway, it happened in the 24th minute of a 25-minute fight. How can you aggressively approach him in that way
Starting point is 00:09:36 when early in the fight, that would put you in danger? Or at least it would seem to be. Yeah, I never feel like I'm in danger in a fight. I mean, I feel like I can take a shot off anyone and keep walking forward. I think I don't want to disrespect him because I really like Justin, but I think his power is overrated. He hasn't knocked anyone out with his hands since Jameswick.
Starting point is 00:10:00 He knocked him. out with an egg kick, but that's a Porriere on the ass end of his career, who I think was already on a downward spiral. I don't think Porriere's last couple of fights he looked that good at all. He gave Islam a decent fight when Islam had staff. So that explains it. All right, guys, today's show is brought to you by our new sponsor, Hard Rock Bet. Hard Rock Bet is a top-rated sportsbook app.
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Starting point is 00:15:44 you win this belt. You would seem to refresh the division, right? You have a potential number one contendant, Armin Serukian, who you said you would beat any day or the week. You also have a champion in Ilya to pour you who you said you will not be fighting in April when he said that he intends to come back in April of May. why, one, don't you want to fight Iliad to pour you if he comes back in the spring?
Starting point is 00:16:11 I'm not fighting that soon. I'm fighting in January. I'm going on holiday in February. I won't have enough time. I've had to sit around and wait for him. You can wait a couple of months. End of June, start of July. Yeah, in the June, start of July.
Starting point is 00:16:26 So you'd imagine it would be I'll be Elliott to pour you next if you become champion on Saturday. Yeah. When I become champion, interim champion on Saturday, it'll be Elliot. to Portia after that. If he comes back in time, if he doesn't come back by June, July,
Starting point is 00:16:39 then he needs to be stripped or vacate and let the division move on. And I'll fight Armand, people are saying I'm scared to fight Armand. I've never been offered to fight him. I'd fight him tomorrow. Yeah, yeah. Patty, before I let you go,
Starting point is 00:16:54 so you said that your Christmas was ruined because you had this fight and you couldn't eat it. But, but stop, stop. I need you to be honest here, Patty. You're kind of playing that up a little bit because I saw you way back in December and you don't get as big as you used to. You used to get real big,
Starting point is 00:17:12 but not as getting serious. You don't seem to get as heavy as you used to. Have you started to make it a point not to get as big as you used to get? Oh, I'm having me. Well, not when I was in America. In June, this year, I still got up to like 200 pounds,
Starting point is 00:17:32 $205 pounds. Yeah, but I've got a lot more muscle, you know? I've got a lot more muscle. Was that picture AI when your face was looking all big, like fat basketball? Oh yeah, they're always photoshopped, all of them pictures. But like even when I come to International Fight Week, I was like 200 pound then. No what I mean? But you didn't look fat.
Starting point is 00:17:54 Yeah, but all pictures get edited. They all get edited of me to make me look fatter. But I still walk around. like 195 with abs. And you're big. You're very big for the weight class. Do you think that's going to cause problems for every one of these guys?
Starting point is 00:18:10 I mean, Ilya's a shorter guy. Justin's not as big as you are. And neither is Armand. Do you feel like your size is going to be one of the biggest issues for these guys? Yeah, it is definitely. My size will play a big factor.
Starting point is 00:18:23 To be honest, Justin's not small. Justin's just a little bit shorter than me in height, but I've got a lot bigger legs and shoulders, Danham. Yeah. But in height, me and Justin, a pretty similar size. My arms are a bit longer like, but then Armin and Ely are both a lot
Starting point is 00:18:36 shorter. And that'll play a factor when it comes to fighting. On Saturday night, you win the interim championship. What does that mean to Paddy Timberlitt? A guy who many thought would be a champion in the UFC to accomplish that goal, what would that mean for you? Me and everything, to be honest, there'll be a combination of a lifetime's way
Starting point is 00:19:00 because I started training 16 years ago, and I was 15. And it's half my lifetime. My whole adult life I've been training for this moment. And I want to come out and take it on Saturday night. I can't wait to get back. The fans are going to be rabid too, man. They've been deprived of fights for seven years. Yeah, the fans have been going bananas for the show.
Starting point is 00:19:23 So this is going to be spectacular. Yeah. You probably need some spectacular in your life right now after the way Liverpool's playing, huh? Boy, they gave y'all that great year last year. We're winning 2-0 right now, lad. Okay, okay, well. Finished 3-Nell?
Starting point is 00:19:39 Lovely, up the reds, mate. Yeah, up the reds. You know, I hope for some good luck for you all, because I hate for a champion like y'all we were last year to look so bad when we, the Arsenal of London, are playing so, so well right now. Yeah, you're still won't win the league, though. You're the bottle.
Starting point is 00:19:56 It's just the way it is. Well, so here's the thing. Now that you're fighting for the belt, Patty, you and I can start making real bets. Champion bets, Arsenal versus Liverpool, D.C. versus Paddy Kimblet. Let's bet it. Next year, lad, we'll finish above you using the league. Def old use won't win it anyway. City are going to win it.
Starting point is 00:20:15 I'm going to be chasing you down for my money, Patty Pimbley. Guys, Patty Pimbley. Guys, Patty Pimlet fights for the UFC intro championship this weekend at UFC 324. Make sure you tap into everything his young man is doing and follow him on his Instagram. threads everywhere, tap into the baddie. Until next time, like, subscribe, and tell you friends, I got a YouTube channel,
Starting point is 00:20:35 and I'm tapping to the people like, Oh, Patty the baddie. Until next time. Yes, please. You know, man, Patty. Hey, guys, it's us. The Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe.
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