The Herd with Colin Cowherd - The Draymond Green Show - Championship Reaction From TD Garden

Episode Date: June 17, 2022

Draymond Green is joined by Klay Thompson, Andre Iguodala, and Gary Payton II to celebrate and react to the Golden State Warriors winning their fourth championship in the modern era. #Herd Produced by: Jackson SafonSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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That's my daughter, Cash. We are in the press room, still here at TD Guard, a couple hours after the game. Full-time champions up here, as you see. Got my man, Killer Clay, Dre, the vet, the OG, the guy who guided us through all of this. Honored to be here. Man, they said we could not do it again. Talk to me, Killer.

How does this one feel as a, in comparison to the other three, how does this one feel? I can't sugarcoat it, bro. It's the sweetest one. Just, you know, from the 15th and 50 season, when Steph and I were on the bench, we had to Watch you out there just anchoring these young bucks and struggle. Then the next year having to watch again

and to insert myself in this lineup and then just see the whole thing come together, bro. It's like the sweetest experience I've ever been a part of, man. And it makes a journey that much sweeter just knowing what we all had to go through. So I just, it's an honor to be up here for real. This is such a special moment,

not because we just won championship, but because it took us a championship to get Clay Thompson on the podcast. Ha, ha. That is true. So that is such an honor, but along this journey, which has been three years now, was there ever any doubt for you, A, that you would be able to come back to a player that you have come back and be, that we would be able to do this again once you came back?

Oh, yeah, I doubted, man, every day. I remember guarding LB in September, and I could not stay in front of this, man. Even Will Sheehee, who never played in the league. I was getting busted by him, everybody. I was just the weak link out there. And I'm just like, man, I swear I used to be a great defender. I swear I used to be a great shooter. And then Rick Celebrity would tell me every day, like, Clay, it's going to be up and down.

But once you, we just need Clay for the playoffs. And that's all it's going to take. And I was like, okay, Rick, whatever you say. So I had so many doubts. But once we got closer to the real thing, though, and we actually didn't even get to play with each other until the first playoff game. Well, once I saw you two on the floor with Steph

and the talent we had around us, I knew it was a rap. Like, no one can mess with us. One more question before we get Clay out of here because I promise him this would be three questions, and it is a miracle that we got him here. But for you, moving forward, Do we have Clay Thompson

finishing his career with the Golden State Warriors? I need to know this for my own personal sake. Man, I did tell Steve Kerr at the NBA TV little podium, I told him, you know, I'm going full Michael Jordan. I'm inlining myself with Steve. I ain't playing for anybody but Steve.

So that's the plan. And it would be weird to be in another uni, you know, so I'm just grateful to be up here. And to be mentioned with the Lakers, the Celtics and the Bulls, now we're there. I'm never sure when you got drafted here, Andre signed on.

You never would envision this, maybe one, but four. And we ain't done. That's a beautiful thing about it. We got these young bucks behind us, and we got the same squad coming back. It's scary for the NBA. It is very scary,

my brother. I appreciate you coming on. Oh, yeah, of course. Thank you, my dog. We'll get a full podcast. Absolutely, we will. Drake, come talk to us, brother. Come talk to us.

Here we have a return guest. a guy who came on the podcast before like it was easy to get guests and not that it's easy now but once you build a reputable show you know then it's a lot easier to come on I'm very thankful to this man

for coming on when it was just trying to start a podcast and a guy who's taught me so much taught all of us so much how does this one feel? This one's this one's I'm a loss of words because I think they

they let us get this one and we're going to get off. We're going to get our, you know what off. Absolutely. They made a mistake letting us get this one off. Absolutely. No, but I was saying because there's only but so many, you talk about any sport, there's only but so many that put a stranglehold on that entire league for this long.

Like you talk about Brady, talk about 49ers. You know, you talk about, you know, the Bulls, the Spurs had it stretched out. And you talk about the Lakers and Celtics, obviously, but, you know, this is 75th year of the NBA. 75 years when we do like the 200th year. Like, it's it's just stone. Like, we shouldn't really get our shit off now. Absolutely. Like, fam.

The Brahma to talk so much cash. Like, oh, you know you're the fucked up, right? You know you to fuck up. Hey, hey, that's incredible, man. And honestly, I told you. y'all don't let us win a fucking championship and y'all have fucked up and let us win a championship.

Hey, but check this though. We go on to run five straight finals and then Bob Myers come to you and he say, yo, Kevin leaves and he say, yo, we're going to trade you. What was that like for you? You know, it's funny because I saw it, you know how you and I are.

Like we, we see before, like, things happen. So I knew in my contract, I had an extension date. So last year, my contract, I can get cut. And that salary respreaded over three years. So something had told me, call Bob and ask him, when's my cut date? Uh-huh. I was like, Bob, with my cut date. And we built such a great relationship with Bob.

Bob was like, come talk to me. Hey, J-K, come in here, man. Yeah, yeah. So Bob was like, come talk to me. So I went to Bob's office and he was like, we might trade you. And he kept it real just because we have a great report. And that's when I knew. So I wasn't surprised.

And you're killing our contact young fellow. I bet. But I knew, you know, there might be opportunity on the back end. So, you know, I was talking about it with the NBA media earlier that things happened for a reason and me going to Miami and experiencing the Miami heat culture that really helped me come back and then accept the role I had because like I had really good days this year but the body just wouldn't hold up but I knew that I could still be impactful and I still knew that we could like you know how it is you can't let it the year get by and you know that you let

one slip away like we've been here too many times so I was just like let me just do what I need to do and it's just been incredible it was been incredible speaking of the body not holding up because it's actually something I was going to ask before you just said that but I didn't think it would be possible as a NBA finals MVP that we probably felt your impact this year more than any year that you were competing and playing and dominating and clamping and settling our offense down and getting us into the position. I didn't think that would be possible. I am 100% certain we don't do this without you and your leadership and showing us the way. But for you, as a competitor, that still got to be tough.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Knowing that ultimately I am a basketball player. I'm not a coach. Like, I play basketball. I'm on this team. And yet your body not allowing you to give what you know you could give on the court. How was getting through that and just ultimately saying, I'm working hard to get back and be available for the finals.

But ultimately, knowing, like, I may not play much. How was that for you? It was tough because I would have, like, good workouts. Like I had a workout before or right after game three and we had practice and I didn't I didn't miss a shot like I look like Steph I did the step thing where I started to paint and went all the way back to like half court and made like nine straight shots. I'm like I'm really ready and Steve was just kind of like I might have to go another direction and like to be honest they hurt you. We're all human. It's like bro I can help like let me help. But at the same time it's like listen man I believe in these guys. I know if Wiggs can do what he's able to do for us, we good. I know if GP does what he needs to do for us, we're good. I know of Otto against his toe white, we're good. Belly was huge for us.

You know what I mean? Absolutely. Belly went out there and helped us winning championship. Yes, he did. You know what I mean? We talked about like Nick Young came and helped us in the Houston series a couple years ago. And then just Jordan Poole and just being trying to be that role model. And it's like Mike, Bright Brown said, I need to put you in for one minute in game five.

Maloon got four quick files because I forgot what rep was calling on on files on him. And he was like going for one minute. I said, damn, y'all put me in for one minute and G. Like that joint. But at the same time it's like, you know, man up, bro. Like man up. Like, man up. Because Kaminga's here, you know, he's very impressionable. And, you know, he does whatever we say.

But you got to show him the way too because in, in the eight years, it might come into effect. Like eight years from now, Kamika's like, man, Andre went in. He had finals MVP. He went in for 77 seconds and play good minutes. You know what I mean? So, like, those things come into mind. You know, like, that stuff comes back tempo. No, for sure.

And I think what people don't understand is how fast something could swing. And although that 77 seconds, you know, wasn't a bunch of points or wasn't a bunch of this, all it takes is 77 seconds to swing the game. So all it takes is for coach to put a guy in that he doesn't necessarily trust. And they have one turnover and that changed the entire game. And I think that's what people don't understand about this entire process. It's like that 77 seconds, all of us were comfortable. Yep, yeah, yeah.

Because regardless of what you were, what you didn't do, we knew what you were going to do. And that's not make a single mistake. Yeah, yeah. And it was such a beautiful thing, man. And I can go on and on with this interview, as you know, but I want to say thank you. You came back here. You didn't have to come back here. and to come back here and show us the way again, you know, no matter what next year holds for you.

Like, I mean, I'm pretty certain that you probably want to be done because you, you know, for those that don't know, I'm not even sure if I can say this. Can I say this? What Andre's doing? Yeah, I mean, it's public. Starting a venture capitalist fund. Like, that's our OG. You know, that's who. That's who has shown us the way, you know, and I know you have bigger and better things that awaits for you.

And whether you decide to come back or not, the impact that you had on our lives and our careers and what we can continue to move on. Obviously, this brotherhood doesn't end. This is forever. But I can't thank you enough, brother, for your leadership, for your guidance. And being the true definition and showing me what it meant to be a vet to some. I thank you, brother. I love you. Four times, brother. They can't never take that for me. I appreciate you, fam. I love you, my dog. They can't fuck with him. Absolutely not. My dog, finals MVP. What you think?

Andre and Goddala. New media. We on your ass. We own your ass. Yes, sir, brother. Such, such an incredible journey. And within our little audience that we have here at the Draymond Green Show. We have a guy who, we have a guy who played on four NBA teams, 5G league teams, which is even more impressive than the four NBA teams,

5G league team. And, you know, it's a very interesting thing. When I was, when I was, and we've had the pleasure and the honor of having his pops on, And I remember asking them just like, you know, I know in all these interviews they asked you about defense and being the club and all of these things,

but tell me about being a father. And as someone who went back and forth with do I name, do I name my son a junior or not, because then they have to live up to that and blah, blah, blah, and this guy is that way before DJ. And to get it out the mud, people don't realize sometimes having the same name as an NBA legend, it works the opposite way.

You know, I know most people think, like, oh, it's nepotism. No, no, no, it actually works against you in a lot of cases. And to see him get it out the mud, to be the 15th guy to make the roster this is a full circle moment for us because I remember his 10-day ending and you know where that 10-day ended at? That 10-day ended here in Boston

and he's dapping all of us up like, yo man, it's been great, I appreciate y'all. I'm like, what are you talking about? He's like, oh, I'm my 10-day up. I'm like, dude, you'll be here. See you later. And then I called Bob, Steph called Bob, and we're like, yo, you can't get rid of GP.

Like, you got to bring him back. You see what he's doing for? You got to bring him back. And that was the start of all of this. And so I'm honored to welcome the next guest, the champ. Gary Payton, the second GP2, my brother. Welcome to the Draymond Green Show. Yes, sir. How does it feel?

First and foremost, just from me to you, just I appreciate you and you know everything you did you know just went for bad for me you know through the summer and you know my first 10 days same 10 day whatever uh you 30 you know having my back um and giving me just opportunity and believing in me that's just that alone just me know means the world and that's why i went to back for you this whole year you know um i didn't do it for me or whatever i did just for y'all and your legacy your legacy is bigger than you know my career or whatever, so forth is just I'm proud of you and, you know, everything you've been through and how you got it out, you know, you feel me.

Absolutely. And, you know, I appreciate you. I appreciate you, brother. And honestly, the beautiful thing about all of this is you're now a part of that legacy, you know. And the most beautiful thing about this is the journey, you know, like holding the trophy. Like, I didn't hold the trophy on stage one time. Like, didn't even want to get near it. Because it's the journey that you appreciate.

It's the people that you go through it with. That's why you appreciate it. You know, that's the beauty in this. It's like you go through people, you go through this with the people that you've been in the trenches with over and over and over again. And that is the beauty. And that's why you do this. And so for me, the thing that I've enjoyed most about each championship outside of the first one was seeing the guy. who's winning it for the first time.

Because that reaction that it's almost like the innocence of a child, like that does not know what it feels like. And so for me, that's what I get the most joy out of seeing you win a championship, seeing Jordan Poole win a championship, seeing Otto, a guy who signed a $100 million contract, when it was nearly impossible to get $100 million contract and then go through the injuries, see him get a championship. Belly, you know, who's

33 years old, didn't come over to the NBA until I think he was 27 or something like that. To see Belly get a chance, that's the beauty in it. And so, you know, I want to say, congratulations. You've earned your keep. You belong here. And you've shown that to be the 15th man on the roster

and become a vital. part of that roster, it's a hurt of. It doesn't happen. You play one preseason game due to injury. You're going through the preseason and you're unable to get out there and you know what's riding on this and you need to make this team.

What's going through your mind through that preseason and just trying to rehab from an injury? Just trying to get ready as fast as, you know, the faster way I can. Stay ready. keep my mental right and you know just know that you working towards you know that moment at one moment that might change you know your career your life and they said i would have that moment if i you know keep working stay the course and you know keep doing my rehab so i just kept her keep stay ready basically

kept my rehab up and you know when that when that time was ready where they let me go i had to leave it and no doubt you know for bombing them to to make that decision you know and keep me Such an amazing thing. Like I said, just only playing one game. And you beat out Avery Bradley, who at that point, it's like you need a defensive, a wing defender. And you beat out Avery Bradley, who's been an incredible defender in this league for a long time. And I thought that was absolutely amazing. I have a tell.

And this is what I could be thinking. And you may think otherwise. And you can tell me if you think I'm wrong or what you think. of this, but I was having a conversation with a young fellow a couple weeks ago, and he finished the season with an organization, and he was back working out wherever he works out in the summer. Do you see any significance in a guy who's in your position or in a position similar to yours, sticking with that team throughout the summer that they ended with and training with that team and being around those coaches and being around those young guys.

Do you see the benefit in that as opposed to, all right, I ended with this team. I'm going back to L.A. and train. I'm going to go to Vegas and train. I'm going to Miami and train. What is the significance in sticking with that team and training with them and going through their offseason regimen? Yeah, that was probably the biggest decision I made because all the other times I got cut. I went back home.

That's what I did. I went back to Vegas and I got back in the gym and whatnot. not with this team and what I felt in my first 10 day, you know, and going into the offseason, like, this is, this is the group. This is the formula, you feel me? Like, I could be, you know, a big piece in helping, you know, everything goes smoother and then what it was. So I made that decision when I got cut.

Why I asked to be in the video room is to be around y'all. Like, I was still being practiced, still show, you know, Bob and everybody that, you know, I can still play. I can play in this league. So that was my mindset on, you know, asking for that job. And when I decided to stay here this whole summer, regardless, I said, I told myself, I said, I'm not going anywhere. Like, I'm going to show them that I can play basketball the right way and I can work

in the system with you. So that was my mindset. And then I wasn't going to let nobody or anything, you know, tell me the other way. It's amazing, brother. And before we get out of here, your pops is no longer the only one in the only one the house with a ring. What you got to say to the OG, man? I got it.

I think I got it sooner. You feel me? Yeah, and I'm one for one. 100%. You can't say nothing about 100%. That's 100%. So if you want to talk to me, you know where I live. OG GP the club.

Hey, shout out Dre. OG, I'm so happy for him, four-time champ. Couldn't have done it without this man. He led us throughout the year. He's had so much on his bag. And he's did so much for us. done so much for us and as far as our organization and I can't do none but thank you brother and congrats full time champ and uh you already know you at legend I appreciate you my brother

thank you for coming on the show sir thank you for having me we're gonna have to do a full episode and just really get into your background and how you grew up and the the things that I want to talk about the struggles of growing up with a father in the NBA you know I think you know the thing that people don't realize is like as beautiful as that is and like as dope as that is, you're not home. You know, you're on a road and he's not home. I'm not home all the time. And you're rock, your mom and how she held it down.

And so we're going to get into all that, man, have to have to bring you on a show, my brother. You already know, call me. Thank you, dog. I appreciate you, congratulations. Appreciate you, brother. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. What now?

The young glove. What now? What now? Yeah, talk your shit. Dr. Two. My dog. man um

i am exhausted to say the least um our audience in here is starting to dwindle down but but my beautiful wife hazel is still sitting there and it's absolutely incredible to be on this journey with you my love my dog steles is still sitting there

director of sports marketing at converse and then my brother, Torion, Manman Harris, who showed me the way. We got Jackson behind the camera. We got Faves in here. Faves is the man behind the Dremont show, Instagram, giving you all the content.

And then we have me, yours truly, the new media, the champ, photons. I tell you what, four times. I tell you what, man. I got a lot of receipts. for that group over there, led by IMEA Udoka, incredible, incredible coach. And it's ironic to go up against him. I think back to one of my tweets during their series against Milwaukee.

And Eme, they had just winning one game six on the road. and I was watching SportsCenter and they showed this feature on Boonehozer. Boonehosa is a great coach champion coach. Don't take nothing away from him. But they showed this feature on him after they just had loss. And then they show like J.B. talking,

Jason Tatum talking, like Boonhosa talking. And they didn't show E.M.A. Udoka talking. And so I, and when I say talking I mean like their press conference give them quotes and I tweeted I said does E-May do

does he do press conferences because some situations people don't like to talk and they you know they get old they hand that over to the assistant maybe the assistant coach does to talk so I said does Eme Udoka does he do press conferences

because it's baffling to me that there's a feature on the losing coach then there's words from the losing coach but nothing from the winning coach as if he didn't make any adjustments to go on the road and win game six. And I thought that was strange and I didn't like it

and that's why I tweeted it because this is a much different team than they've had here. So what's the difference? The difference is that a coach came in and required something different, tapped into something different. When everyone said Jalen Brown

and Jason Tatum can't play together. And they were foolish for signing Marcus Smart to a Max deal. And they were stupid for bringing out Horford back. And all of those things, and you got to get Brad Stevens' credit in some of those moves that he made. But the thing that changed was E. Mae Udoka came in. And he requires something different from those guys.

He required J.T. to play defense. He required J.T. to move the ball. and he averaged seven or eight assists in this series. He required J.B. to take that next step. He required Robert Williams to take that next step. He requires smart to go back to his Oklahoma State days and be the point guards that this team needed. Aaron Miles, who's on that bench, who was with us last year.

That's the difference. The difference is those guys that came in Damon Stathamire, wheelcherry. They commanded a different respect, and you have to get them a lot of credit. That team ain't going nowhere. That team will be back. You better believe that team will be back.

Give a lot of credit to Robert Williams. Most guys, especially this day and age, most guys sitting out on that knee, got a knee injury. Most guys, they're not continuing to go. For what? We're in the finals. I'm banged up. I got my money.

Nobody would have complained if Robert Williams decided to sit out. He didn't. He was a game changer in this entire series, cause fits. Got to give a lot of credit to that young man with his whole entire future ahead of him. His whole entire future ahead of him. He left it all out there on the line. You respect guys like that. There's so many guys in this league that would never do that.

you respect guys like that the utmost respect for me that's a group that's a young group over there grant williams who was all in my grill in my face the entire series we had our words back and forth i got respect for that young man them guys gonna be together and they'd be crazy if they don't keep those guys together but it wouldn't surprise me if we see this team some time in the near future when we're done, win a championship. They got it. They're not weak.

They're not soft. They got the score and they got the defense. They got the bigs. If there's one place that they can improve, it's probably their depth. You know, if you look at this series, I feel like they just ran out of gas. And that was it for us.

We're like, yo, they're only really playing seven guys. Sometimes it's only six. Let's just keep running these guys Just keep a body in front of these guys Let's try to wear them down But the thing about it is Championship teams

They got their guys And then they fill out with great minimums And when you're a great team like that You start to get the great minimums And so you go into next year Your bench look totally different You're able to rely on that bench And so those are some of the things

that I think we'll see from there And I don't think this is our last time hearing from the Boston Celtics. That's a great group. They got a great young core, and they're going to continue to get better. Before we get out of here, because I have to go join this party, let's talk about some of these naysayers. Before this series started, I saw ESPN Power Index, and some gave us a 20% chance to win.

Why? Who makes those things? what is their job security like because you're lying to people so has anyone held accountable these days anybody held accountable these days I even saw it was like

two to two and they're like 79% chance 21 are you crazy you know who you dealing with it's us to count us out like that It's just, it's crazy to me.

Where do y'all get these numbers from? Like, are they coming from the people that sit up there and don't know what they're talking about? That's how I got to be calculated. Because those numbers just don't make sense to me. They didn't make sense and they for damn sure don't make sense now. Nick Wright comes out and say, uh, Steph Curry's, that's it. He'll never see the finals again. and Andrew Wiggins, three years $95 million left on his deal,

why would they go do that worst trade and blah, blah, blah. I hope you're willing to stand on that word, brother. Stand on that. And tell us why you thought that. Tell us why you thought that. Tell us why this whole series you've been yapping and yapping, and then all of a sudden you want to switch to the dubs. Tell us why.

Because what's in question is your basketball knowledge. Some of these ass and on-ass statements y'all be making. That's why I speak of the new media. For those of you that don't know what the new media is, let me explain to you what the new media is. The new media is not athletes doing media. We've been doing that. A lot of them turn into Coons

and start acting like the old media once they become media. But let me explain to you what the new media is. the new media is A, stand on your word. We don't apologize for our word. We don't flip and go. You stand on your word. Good, bad, or indifferent.

We stand on that. B, we're not trying to create controversy. I'm not trying to align myself with a guy or two so I can fill some TV slots on a daily and create controversy. Basketball is a beautiful game. if you know the game of basketball basketball will give you enough to talk about

the problem is all of these people talking about basketball that don't know basketball and so what do you do? You chase controversy the new media we don't do that that's why you see JJ Redick flourishing that's why you see C.J. McCullough, flourishing.

That's why you see me flourishing. So we don't do that. We simply talk the game that we know and embrace it and teach. That's what these spots are about. How do you teach the game? How do you teach the fans the game?

These people that think they know the game of basketball but don't really know. How does JJ Reddit go up there and teach the game? That's the new media. We give flowers when flowers are due. We don't have to try to build a guy up for a week to tear him down next week so I got something to talk about. that's the new media

respect integrity respect and integrity on the job about the job I remember days when you didn't go on a on a TV show and cheer for another team you go on and give analysis

nobody give a damn who you cheering for you got fools like Kendra Perkins come dressing like a clown come up here in a jail suit and then you lead a game early tonight. Stand on your word, brother. You got to stand on that. One thing is for certain. I'm a stand on mine. Full time champ. I'm out.