The Herd with Colin Cowherd - The Draymond Green Show - Championship Recap + Addressing The Haters

Episode Date: June 27, 2022

In his first offseason podcast Draymond Green recaps the Warriors championship parade and addresses the Skip Baylesses of the world and why it's important to be accountable in sports media. #Herd Prod...uced by: Jackson SafonSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:59 Obviously, you know, it's been a lot going on in this last week or so. I feel like I'm finally starting to get my barons and just, like my legs back under me and but most importantly my mind um when going through the playoffs well before we get into this um it's been a great week as you know the parade was absolutely incredible which we'll discuss a little more about that but as i mentioned this is the first episode of the off season and we're about to hit the ground running what do i mean by we're about to hit the ground running. If you have not seen, doing a live podcast recording slash show in New York City, Monday night with JJ Reddit, the new media is going to be absolutely insane. The podcast
Starting point is 00:01:58 will live in the normal podcast fee, so if you can't make the podcast, or the show, there were not a ton of tickets as it is a smaller venue. So, and then obviously, it's the summertime and people traveling and blah, blah, blah. If you can make it, the podcast will live where every other episode live and you'll be able to check it out. So don't fret, my pet will be just fine. But in saying that, as you know, the parade was about almost a week ago. And it was great.
Starting point is 00:02:35 Why was the parade great? I must be honest. after having parades in Oakland I was a little nervous because I just didn't know what to expect I am the type of person like I like things to stay the same I'm very shy
Starting point is 00:02:54 which most people would never believe when it comes to like new people it does not work well with me it takes me a while to get comfortable with people like I just like things the same I said all of that to say after having three parades in Oakland and then coming to San Francisco
Starting point is 00:03:11 and having a parade, I was a little skeptical about it because I just didn't know what to expect. And I love my Oakland family, as Oakland will always be a home second home to me. Really grew up there
Starting point is 00:03:27 and became a man, not like grew up. Like, we know, I'm sagging all Michigan through and through baby. That doesn't change. But I grew into a man in the city of Oakland. So that place will always have a special place in my heart. Never change. But if I'm ranking parades because we live in this society that's always trying to like rank and compare dumb shit, I think that may have been the best parade. Why was it the best parade? For a few reasons.
Starting point is 00:04:06 Number one, Steph Curry was acting up. And you just never see that. Like, when we won before Steph didn't act up, Steph was acting up. Clay Thompson was acting up. I mean, this man, by the way, I know we all saw the video, or if you have not seen the video,
Starting point is 00:04:25 please go to your Instagram and find the video of Clay Thompson stumbling. The guy stumbled five steps. then he hits he like runs over the girl and immediately catches his balance which was the great part
Starting point is 00:04:42 is like you run this girl over and that's how you catch your balance if that girl was not right there the girl that Clay Thompson ran over I mean that ends badly for Clay number one he's tripping on a little like I don't know what these calls
Starting point is 00:04:57 so forgive me and all the smart people out there that's going to comment it be like it's called this thanks in advance but the metal the cage thing that's all over the streets and they're sometimes on the side he's like tripping
Starting point is 00:05:10 and I know like in that situation it's probably for the train system the bar or whatever train system runs whatever transportation system I should say runs downtown
Starting point is 00:05:24 San Francisco on Market Street I'm sure that's why the cage thing is there for that but he's like tripping over that And if he falls on that thing, that does not end well. Quite frankly, he runs the girl over and save himself. I thought that was absolutely the highlight of the parade.
Starting point is 00:05:47 Or maybe Clay Thompson losing one of his rings. Now, to show y'all how much of a fog I've been in, Clay had his rings, Steph had his rings, Bob had his rings. And I had told myself days leading up to the parade, like, I need to get my rings. Because I don't keep them in the house, like, they're in a safe location. Like, I need to get my rings. Totally forgot. See those guys beginning a parade like, ah, I forgot my rings.
Starting point is 00:06:22 Then Clay Thompson goes on to lose one of his rings. And I think he found it. But I'd be the one who definitely lose the ring. So it's probably best that I did not get my rings. And I just, I talked my shit anyway like I had my ring. So it was great. But, man, the fog that I've been, number one, for all our loyal supporters out there, our listeners, I hope you listen to the podcast that I did right after finals.
Starting point is 00:06:58 And it was absolutely horseshit. Why was it absolutely terrible? Well, I'll tell you why It was great Having Andre on Like that's surreal Like to have him on in that moment Like right after we win
Starting point is 00:07:11 Great, like You know, you get Clay Thompson on That's about as long as you can get Clay to focus We kept him as long as we could get him to focus Absolutely incredible Getting GP on there Absolutely amazing Even the cameo by the rook
Starting point is 00:07:25 Who can't stay focused for 20 seconds And answer some questions It's great Having those guys on is incredible. Why was it terrible? It was terrible because I was still in the fog. I didn't know what was going on. I'm sure you probably watched that and be like,
Starting point is 00:07:42 Draymond didn't give us much of anything. I had nothing left to give. I was absolutely exhausted. And again, in further explaining the fog that I was in, I totally missed the champagne celebration. Totally missed it. They like did a look. small do-over for me when I came in a locker room as, you know, if you watch the, if you see
Starting point is 00:08:07 any, if you watch any of the clips that the warrior's posted from the champagne celebration, you'll notice you only see me in like a five-second clip, maybe for five seconds, and it's really just me sitting there spraying the champagne because I missed the whole celebration, again, just in the fall on the court. I'm standing on the court and like not realizing pretty much anything that's going on around me. And so I missed that. I then proceeded to miss pictures with everyone. So like if you see the pictures, like,
Starting point is 00:08:42 I think there may be a picture of me and Clay. Maybe me and Clay. I think it's me and Clay, possibly. But like, I don't have a picture with like me and Steph or me and Steve or me and G. Like, I totally missed that part of things. I then proceeded to miss 90% of the afterpart. that we had in TD Garden and like some club they got in there like who knew it was a club
Starting point is 00:09:06 in TD Garden huge club I missed like 90% of the after party so I said all of that to say or just to give you a perspective of why a that episode was terrible because I didn't realize in and scheduling the episode with Jackson and like you just don't know where the emotions were going being, for me, my emotions was all over the place. Like, you know, a part of me is sitting there watching the younger guys and enjoying seeing them, like, win their first championship and they're reacting. A part of me is sitting there trying to process, man, we just won our fourth championship.
Starting point is 00:09:48 And let me tell you, the difference in between four and three, may as well be having one and four. Like, it feels so night and day, like the rarefired air that we're in after winning the fourth one, then went in the third one. It's literally like, it's just so rare. I was on the phone with Brian the other day, and I'm just telling him like, bro, the difference, like, going from three to four is insane.
Starting point is 00:10:15 He's like, yo, I'm telling you, like, it's crazy. That's why when we won our, when I won my fourth one, I'm just like, nah, like, stop. You don't want to hear anything. And we were just sitting there talking about how, like, the difference in between winning number three, like going from three to four is massive. And so I want to give a big shout out to the guys who has four rings. Obviously, your current active players is made up of the dubs and LJ. So that's a very short list.
Starting point is 00:10:52 But Shaq Diesel, who I said a million times, was growing up for me, like it was Shat. Like, huge Shaq fan had to zip up Orlando Magic Wansy. My nightlight was Orlando Magic. I had to iron on, half ironed on, and the rest is like going missing Shaquille O'Neill, Magic jersey with the lines into him and Penny jerseys. You know, like, growing up, for me,
Starting point is 00:11:20 my favorite player all the time is Shack, just the way he dominated. I actually be going back and watch some of Shack highlights and different stuff of Shack. And dude was absolutely insane. Four-time club, MJ, four-time club. Obviously, MJ six, but we're talking about the four-time club. MJ, you're going to be a part of this club for now.
Starting point is 00:11:44 We got cold, Kareem. And, like, you know, I can go on and on with this list. Scotty Pippen. The moral of the story, Steve Kerr, I'd be remiss if I didn't say Steve. Kerr. But there's 44 guys. Four of them happen to be from our camp. In NBA history, there has four championships. And so that leads you to the conversation that is all 75 team. No, we're not getting into that. I'm just joking. Partly joking, partly serious. But anyway, it's like, it's really still hard for me to put in words. But nonetheless, back to you,
Starting point is 00:12:29 to what I was saying anyway, trying to put into context like we just run our fourth ring and the emotions of it, standing on that stage looking out at the Boston fans who, I don't even need to revisit all of the things that they were saying in their antics, but to watch them sit there and watch us hoist the trophy, my emotions in my mind was just all over the place. And so just kind of missed the moment. I remember. a story, Peter Goober, who's one of the majority owners, mentor of mine, one of the majority owners of the GoTo State Warriors, he told me a story years ago. He said, Draymond, I always wanted to win, I always wanted to win an Oscar, you know, and you do all of these things and
Starting point is 00:13:21 you put these movies together and, like, the ultimate goal is to win an Oscar. And I'm like, yeah, it's great. He said, and Draymond, we finally got the movie, we got our Oscar. He said, and I'm on like a chair in back of everybody like trying to stand up. And so I can be in the picture. He said, and in that moment, I realized the picture is the least important part of this journey. It's the actual journey that you appreciate. It's the times on set with the actors and with the directors and producers and actresses. That's what you appreciate.
Starting point is 00:13:58 You appreciate the journey. you appreciate the process of getting there. And it took me to have to try and try to hop on a chair in the back and like being in the picture to realize like it's all about the process and journey. And so a part of me is just sitting there and like not even really caring about the picture or about holding a trophy. Like I never held a trophy on stage. First time I held the trophy was like in the pictures afterwards where you take the individual.
Starting point is 00:14:29 but really hoisted the trophy was the parade. And so it was a surreal moment for me, but it was also a little confusing, if you will. And what I mean by confusing is just, it was just all over the place. I was all over the place. So that was kind of the ending of it for me. Or, yeah, essentially the ending.
Starting point is 00:15:00 But I also want to walk you back to games five and six. A very interesting detail. I think a couple of people picked up on it, but most people didn't. I wore the same outfit, game five and game six. If you were to saw my pack's bag on the way back from Boston, or way too Boston, very small back because I didn't have many clothes. I wore my same black. Converse Sweatsuit to Game 5 and the game 6.
Starting point is 00:15:35 What was the significance behind that? The significance behind that was I felt like leaving Boston that I was in a war. With the people screaming and yelling the way they were, the disrespect, I felt like I was in a war. And no disrespect to our soldiers and to... our armed forces as a whole and actually going to war. When I say, we appreciate everything our armed services do for our country, for us as American citizens.
Starting point is 00:16:11 So I'm not making the comparison as if I was going to like real war. I was going to war in my world. And my world is basketball. And I felt like I was going into a war. And so my mindset was all black, everything. Like, I'm going to take something. And that's just kind of. where I was mentally.
Starting point is 00:16:32 I also didn't want to spend any energy on what I was going to wear that day. And so for me going into game five, Hazel was asking me, she's like, do I need to on your clothes for you before, like, do you want to sit your clothes out before you taking nap? I'm like, yeah, I think I'm just going to wear an all-black jogging suit. And she's like, okay, well, if you change your mind, you know, let me know or sit-and-and-and- And then when I woke up from my nap, she's like, hey, you got something for me to arm. I say, no, I'm 100% wearing the all-black jogging suit.
Starting point is 00:17:03 And then, you know, go to game five. We win game five. And I told her, I'm going to take this jogging suit off. I'm going to pack it up. No, I'm not washing it. No, I'm not. I didn't have time to send it to the cleaners or anything anyway, because we left the next morning after game five.
Starting point is 00:17:22 This is going straight in the back, and I'm going to game six. And I'm going to wear the same outfit. That's exactly what I did, and the result was the exact same. I think after game four, we knew we had them. Like, after game four, I'm like, all right, I'm wearing all black. It's going to be a funeral. Game five, it's time to go ahead and really try to kill these, you know, like kill these boys,
Starting point is 00:17:49 game six. We put the dagger in these boys. But that was kind of, like, that was my mindset. And so that's how I went into game five and game five. six with the absolute same outfit on, it was incredible. It was a part of my journey. And for me, like I said, that was my mindset, and I absolutely enjoyed that. Now, like I said, I knew after game four, we knew after game four and really after game
Starting point is 00:18:18 three, but especially after game four, that, you know, we had, that was kind of it. And so you go into game five where they, you know, we take a big lead. They fight back. The biggest shot of the series was Jordan Poole's shot before the end of quarter number three in game five, where he banked the three in. Why was that the biggest shot of the series? The reason that was the biggest shot of the series was because they have fought back in the third quarter, which we had dominated third quarters.
Starting point is 00:18:55 They fought back in that third quarter. And when they fought back, they had taken the lead. And Jordan hit the shot. And we went up one going into the fourth quarter. And I know to most people it's like, but they only up one, no big deal, it's right there. But what that did to them mentally,
Starting point is 00:19:19 for them to see, man, we just had this incredible quarter and we're going into the fourth quarter down. It didn't matter whether they were down by one point or 10 points. To have the quarter that they had to take the lead and then go into the next quarter down, that for them I feel like was a dagger when Jordan hit that shot. Now, did they quit after that? No.
Starting point is 00:19:45 We went out and we immediately took over the fourth quarter of game five. But you just knew like they didn't have a, Like, they made the comeback, but they didn't have enough to get over the hump. And if they never took the league and they're going into fourth quarter down one, it's a totally different mindset. But the fact that they took the lead and then they still went into the fourth quarter down, I think for them mentally, that was like a gut punch for them. And so huge shot from Jordan.
Starting point is 00:20:20 Then you go into game six. They start off. They make their run. We all expected it. We all expected like this, they're fighting for their lives in front of their home crowd. They're going to come out with a bang. They start 12 or 2. And then things start to change.
Starting point is 00:20:35 And at that point, you knew we took that first blow. That was it. That was it. And then obviously we go on and we do what we had to do in order to talk to y'all the way we have been talking to y'all. And by the way, let's get into that. Twitter beef. Twitter beef with everyone. I don't have Twitter beef with anyone,
Starting point is 00:20:59 just an FYI. Because why would I have beef? I'm kind of just telling y'all like what it is and telling y'all how I feel and like, most importantly to shut up. Because quite frankly, we don't want to hear it. And so you may have seen me at the parade and I'm just like in every interview,
Starting point is 00:21:20 I'm like, shut up. and the reason being is because you have these experts that does all this talking, less analyzing, but a bunch of talking heads, and they just talk, talk, talk, talk, talk. But what about getting back to actually analyzing the game? What about, like, why is it so, important
Starting point is 00:21:52 to, I know why it's important actually but all these hot takes like what about explaining the game of basketball and what's going on and like what it means and the games within the game and the
Starting point is 00:22:08 advantages that one could get. Winning the NBA finals for those of you that don't understand. It is the smallest edge that it takes and that's who's going to win the NBA finals. It's the smallest edge.
Starting point is 00:22:26 It's not who can score the most points. It's not, is Steph Curry going to score 39 points and Jason Tatum going to score 29 points or 39 points? It's not that. That's not what wins you to NBA finals. It is the smallest edge that wins someone to NBA finals. And because all these dumb talking hands and never done it, they don't understand it,
Starting point is 00:22:49 Even the one that has done it, don't act like he's done it because he's an idiot and the moron and wasn't really that good of a player. And so I'm talking about Kendra Perkins, by the way. Like, so he don't even understand, like, how to even speak about winning a championship and the things that go into it and, like, the advantages that you need to gain
Starting point is 00:23:16 or lack thereof and giving someone an advantage. I mean, it comes down, look, I'm very close with Jason Tatum. Obviously, he's been on the show, which we appreciate. But J.T. is a little brother to me. It was bothering me to not speak to him at all during the finals. Aaron Miles, super tight with Aaron Miles. Me used to sit and play Domino's entire flight
Starting point is 00:23:38 where Aaron Miles when he was here the last few years. It was bothering me not to talk to them guys. Because when you've built a relationship like I've built with those two, like a part of me is like man I want to say what's up to my brother but the other side of me no I don't have absolutely nothing to say to him or or A Miles neither one of them because it's the smallest edge that wins you in NBA finals and you can't let anything get in the way of that and so for me and going through that yes that bothered me
Starting point is 00:24:20 But I recently, I just talked to A Miles and JT on the phone a couple days ago, and I told them like I FaceTime both of them like, what's up? And the look on both of their faces when they answered the phone, obviously it's not at the same time. But when they answered the phone, the look on both of their faces was priceless. I wish I would have screenshoted it, but I didn't. Because some things are just for those moments. And that's one of them.
Starting point is 00:24:47 But the look on both of their faces were priceless. But I called both of them and I said, hey, man, I'm just calling to break the ice. Like, I know we ain't spoke a few weeks, but I'm just calling to break the ice. And I specifically waited till after the parade to break the ice. Because, you know, like, you're still in those moments and, you know, you're preparing for the parade and they're still early. So I waited to after the parade to hit both of them, chop it up, check in. And it was great. It was absolutely incredible.
Starting point is 00:25:18 But I brought that up and just speaking on the edge and the smallest edge that it takes to win the NBA finals. And what is the significance of that? The significance of that is ESPN had us like 80 to 20. And what is that? What do I mean by 80-20? 80-20 rule. We've heard that before, right?
Starting point is 00:25:47 These people had us with a 20-year-old. 20% chance to win the NBA finals. And an 80% chance to lose. So I asked the question. Apparently it was like made by the basketball power index. So I asked the question, who makes these, like, who comes up with these numbers? Like, what's the formula? Is it the formula, like, is the formula made based off of the idiots that be talking about the game,
Starting point is 00:26:19 that you haven't talked about the game of basketball? Because that's clearly what it looks like. Like, how does your index come up with it 80, 20 chance for us? But it's because, I don't know, again, I don't know what makes up this index and, like, how you come up with that. But clearly it's flawed and clearly broke. I think after game four, we might have been still like 20-something percent chance of winning, which is absolutely insane
Starting point is 00:26:54 because that means you didn't watch game four and be like, uh-oh, this ain't right. Something here not right, and I see what's happening here. No, but most people can't see that because they don't quite understand. So let's get back into these talking heads. Skip Bayless. No, I don't want to come on your show.
Starting point is 00:27:16 No, I'm not going to come on your show and debate. But if you want to analyze the game of basketball and we come on there and we do that, I'd absolutely consider it. I'd consider it. Say I'm going to come, but I will consider it. But if you want to sit there and debate,
Starting point is 00:27:36 I didn't go to law school, brother. Like, I don't want to come on your show and debate sports or debate anything else. Because I didn't go to law school. If I wanted to debate something, then I just, like, I would have went to law school and really did that. not try to make basketball that.
Starting point is 00:28:01 Like, no, basketball is beautiful. Basketball, there's a lot to analyze in the game of basketball if you know the game. And I think that's a problem, a bunch of you guys run into. You can't give analysis because you don't know the game. So you end up trying to, like, debate with somebody. And, like, that's whatever, teach his own. But, like, I don't want to sit there and debate with you on TV.
Starting point is 00:28:29 because quite frankly, there's someone that's never watched your show. They may be flicking through the channels and see me on your show. And because they've never watched the show and they're flicked through the channel and they see me on your show, they may mistakenly take me for the fool
Starting point is 00:28:59 as opposed to knowing right away that you're the fool. And I'd hate for them to mistakenly take me for the food that you are or get me confused with the idiot that you are. Like, I don't have much of an interest for that. I wouldn't want that on my name. And to, like, no, it's very evident what you are and who you are.
Starting point is 00:29:33 Like, we know that. It's concrete. Like, we know exactly who you are. clown. And I just don't think I'd be doing myself any service or any good by coming on your show. I'm also not sure that I would even want you as a guest on the Draymond Green show. Because if you go back and you look at the resumes of guys on the show, you don't qualify. Like, you don't qualify for this show. Your resume not there. So I probably won't come on your show unless you want to sit there and analyze the game of basketball.
Starting point is 00:30:20 Then I'll come on, maybe. But I'm not sure. And the only other outlet I would really be able to talk to your honors right here on the Dremyne Green show. And again, your resume doesn't quite crack. It doesn't quite crack the code. maybe we'll change that standard one day and have a guy like yourself on. But as right now,
Starting point is 00:30:50 especially coming off this fourth championship, you're not welcome, my friend. You are not welcome here. And by the way, you come out talking about the new media, you're not the new media, you're the real media. You are the real media. You're right.
Starting point is 00:31:05 You've attached your name to a black man for all of these years. And that black man is none other than King James, LeBron James himself, and you tried to tear him down as much as you can all these years. So you're right, you are the real media. You are exactly who I speak of when I say, this is the new media.
Starting point is 00:31:26 We do this differently. You're right, I'm happy you admitted it, real media. But the new media is here to stay, and we're taking this thing over. You know why? Because people don't want to hear that old, dried up, tired, stuff that you're talking about. Nobody won't hear that no more. The new media, baby.
Starting point is 00:31:45 It's the reason JJ Reddick going on TV and crushing everybody. It's a reason they keep calling Patrick Beverly back to TV. It's a reason why C.J. McCullum just signed that deal. It's a reason why I signed the deal that I signed. It's a reason why this podcast, the Dremont Green Show,
Starting point is 00:32:07 is doing the numbers that it's doing. It's a reason why. The new media. Don't nobody want to hear all that tired stuff you're talking about anymore, Mr. Real. Stop attaching your name to LeBron James. Stop because you know LeBron James in his incredible life that he's lived and continues to live. That there will always be something for you to talk about if I just attach my name to LeBron James. We don't want to hear it, brother.
Starting point is 00:32:40 It's over. It's the new media. We're here to stay. So you keep talking that real media stuff. I'm happy you did. You showed your hand. You are exactly who I thought you were. Exactly who I thought you were.
Starting point is 00:32:54 Kendra Perkins, you act like this clown, and it's baffling to me. He could never be you. You know why he could never be you because he'd never done it. You go up here acting like him. You don't have to do that, buddy. You played. You did it. Go talk about it.
Starting point is 00:33:10 Or can you not? I'd hope that you can with all these hot takes you make you should be able to you don't have to act like that my man you don't have to go up there you go from being enforcer to Coom how does that happen
Starting point is 00:33:25 at least you act like an enforcer I didn't really ever take you for one which is why when we were playing the Cavs in the NBA finals and I was shaking them pom-poms and people was like oh man I remember my Twitter blowing up
Starting point is 00:33:44 like you leave LeBron alone you shouldn't be shaking pom-pons out of Brian Brown my big brother, I would never shake pom-pons at him. Also, who's he cheering for? I was shaking pom-poms
Starting point is 00:33:53 at the guy in the suit and the bat over at the bench. I was shaking my pom-poms at him. That guy. You don't have to act like that, man. You can go on TV and be real and, like,
Starting point is 00:34:07 stand on business. You don't got to go up there doing that stuff you're doing. This man just went on on JJ's podcast the other day and said, I was praying that LeBron James got hurt. Are you kidding me?
Starting point is 00:34:29 You actually thought that was okay to admit? Come on, Cus. You can't think that's okay to admit. Even if you felt that way, which, by the way, why do you feel that way? That's a problem. But even if you felt that way, hey, take that one to the grave, my man.
Starting point is 00:34:49 And JJ being the scholar that he is, the great individual than JJ is, and most importantly, the new media, why is that significant right now? Because the new media, we also protect guys. Like, this isn't about tearing you down. This isn't real Skip Bayless trying to tear you down. We don't do that. Now, we do critique. Some's off, we're going to talk about it.
Starting point is 00:35:21 But we're not going to just try to. Terry. No, no, no, we're going to try to help that. And so JJ, being the new media member that he is, then tries to give you an opportunity to walk it back. Like, you mean like, you're spraying ankle. No, ACL, are you kidding me, bro? There was once upon a time, or excuse me, there was once a point in time where ACLs was ending people careers, man. You remember this how we feed our families.
Starting point is 00:36:06 We always talk, like, I don't know if you do, because it's not much substance, but I always talk about like when you get hurt and you lead a court. Like you live that. Like you don't lead a court. And then it's like, all right, I'm not hurt no more. I can walk now.
Starting point is 00:36:21 but when the game's going on and when practice is going on and back on crutches, it's like it's a video game. No, you really live this stuff. So for you to pray on another man downfall, that's a character flaw, my man. If you pray on somebody downfall once,
Starting point is 00:36:37 you're going to pray on it again. Not necessarily that you pray on LeBron's downfall because y'all are living two totally different worlds. But that just means you're the type of person that will pray on someone's downfall. That's a little whack to me. That's not new mediaish. I don't understand.
Starting point is 00:37:06 You don't have to go on TV and act like that, brother. You played. Act like it. Stop doing this. Stop making a fool of yourself. You played. Act like it. Nicholas Wright.
Starting point is 00:37:22 How you doing? A lot of hot takes. You admitted the other day. We make hot takes. finalize the game, my man. Now, total opposite of Skip Baylor. Skip Bayless has kind of rolled LeBron James and tried to tear him down for all these years,
Starting point is 00:37:45 and that's how he fills his segments on his show. Nick Wright has been total opposite. Bronon could go one for 19. Nick Wright going to say he, he made one shot. and he was the best player on the floor. What happened to the days of, again, analyzing the game, honest opinions,
Starting point is 00:38:17 you got clowns like Bill Simmons, who's like a Boston diehard fan through and through, that's not really giving you the real because he's not impartial. Like, what happened to the days of doing a great job in media and your stories and your takes and just giving analysis, not being a homer? Not Kendrick Perkins going on first taking
Starting point is 00:38:49 and then going on the Boston Celtics home TV show. Like, yeah, we're going for the Celtics. Dude, you were just doing national TV about these games. By the way, the issue that I have with this topic in particular is y'all are misguiding people. Like, people actually see y'all on TV and they actually think y'all know what y'all talking about. So then when they actually think
Starting point is 00:39:15 that you guys know what you're talking about, they may be betting on games and they're watching you and, like, listen to Kendra Perkins say dumb things about the Celtics and the wars. They may believe you. And you're not giving them the real because your heart's in it and because you're not doing a great job at what you should be doing,
Starting point is 00:39:43 which is analyzing the game of basketball. If you're going to talk about the game, analyze the game. Say why this is wrong. Say why that happened. You can't just say, oh, Draymond played terrible, and he looked like to old him or Al Horford is who he used to be. Like, how, though, why? Explain to us what you mean.
Starting point is 00:40:09 And you have to explain it. Analyze it. Help us. Not just, don't just be these hot take guys, man. Explain what you're talking about. Be thorough. It's important. People are listening to y'all and think y'all actually know what you're talking about.
Starting point is 00:40:33 It's important. You know what? Another reason, it's important to make sure. sure these guys act the way they should be acting, to carry themselves the way they should be carried. I was once suspended from game seven at the NBA finals. I'm sorry, game five at the NBA finals. What's the significance of that?
Starting point is 00:40:54 Why is that matter in this conversation? Because again, these guys' opinions matter. I'm certain that some media members had conversations with people in the league office, about whether I should be suspended or not for that game. Your opinion matters. Hard to trust those opinions. Hard to be honest in those situations. If you can't even analyze a series and say X, Y, and Z.
Starting point is 00:41:29 Now, granted, when I'm done playing, I'm sure I'm going to want to see the Golden State Warriors win. I spent 10 years of my life here. Hopefully we'll spend the next five, six, or whatever here. So I'm sure I'll feel a certain way about to go and say, war, it's okay. If I go on any show, if I'm on inside the NBA, I'm going to break the game down and break the series down
Starting point is 00:42:00 and tell you why this matters or why that matters and how this helps and how it doesn't. You still have to do that. You can't just be like, oh, I want the Celtics to win. Like, no, no, no, they're paying you to analyze. and, you know, like, you're doing the countdown shows. You got to tell people what's going on, man. They trust you.
Starting point is 00:42:24 So they think. They trust you. You have to be able to thoroughly help break this game down. And we don't see a bunch of that. And it's baffling to me. It's baffling. You know, come out, hot take this, hot take that. back to your boy, Nicholas, you spoke all of that stuff about Andrew Wiggins.
Starting point is 00:42:53 You spoke all of that stuff about how the Warriors were done and like never went again and Stephanie's to leave Golden State and blah, blah, blah. And then once you're wrong, you then try to go on TV the other day or whatever you were on and say, that's what we do. We make hot takes and a, no, no, no, you're wrong, brother. You got to stand on that. Those hot takes don't just get the roll off. See, that's what you're all accustomed to.
Starting point is 00:43:21 I say to make these Astonine statements, and then once I'm done, it's just over. No, no, no, no, no. You got to stand on that. Changing your opinion in the middle of the... No, no, no, brother. Stand on that. Stand on your word.
Starting point is 00:43:40 It's important to stand on that. Not just flipping and flopping and all this and that. what do you stand for? I don't understand. I don't understand. It's baffling to me. We gotta be better. And I only care.
Starting point is 00:44:03 I only care. It's because I've transitioned into that industry. I'm now a part of that industry. Not part of the real media, though. I'm the new media. But I'm a part of the industry. And I know how you guys are viewed. and I would love to change the view
Starting point is 00:44:25 before I'm really seeing as a part of that industry because it's just a little unfortunate. Like you get media people out here just making these crazy statements and like saying these things. I tweeted at Uncle Oak or Instagram story, one of them. And I said I got an Uncle Oak story type story for this podcast.
Starting point is 00:44:48 Let me give it to you. And speaking of media just talking. There was a clip going around during the finals. By the way, these are all the things that will be going on during the finals and the guy sitting there like, Draymond, the podcast is blah, blah, blah. These are all the things going on in the finals that you all really don't know going on behind the scenes.
Starting point is 00:45:13 And I really haven't had time to talk about them because I'd be so locked in on task at hand. But there was a clip that surfaced. and Cedric Maxwell says to Gary Payton, Sr., if Draymond was acting like that in the 80s and 90s, he could punch in his face, he can punch right in the mouth, whatever he said. So here's the thing, let me explain something to y'all.
Starting point is 00:45:43 I play basketball. When I go on a basketball court, I'm not going out there to punch somebody in the mouth. I'm not going out there to try to pick a fight with anybody. I am going out on a basketball court to simply win a basketball. game, hopefully play well in doing it. In doing that, you're going to try to find any small edge that you can because the smallest
Starting point is 00:46:07 edge wins you the NBA finals. Okay. So if I go on the court and I talk jump, I talk to somebody, listen, you heard it here first. I'm not going out there trying to fight anybody. I play basketball. Will I fight someone if I have, of course, like, grew up my whole life fighting. I don't fight anymore.
Starting point is 00:46:29 It's pointless. So here it is. I'm telling you, here it is, when I go on the court and I'm talking junk, I am not talking junk because I want to fight someone. It's not what I'm going out there and do. Quite frankly, because it's going to cost me too much money if I do go out there and fight someone.
Starting point is 00:46:48 So I'd rather save that money. All right, now do we got that. Sometimes in trying to gain an edge on the court, it does lead to you having beef off the court. you leaving the court pissed off. Not really me in most cases, but some people leaving the court pissed off, and it carries on outside of that.
Starting point is 00:47:07 To be quite frank with you, I don't really know of many guys fighting off the court even when it carries outside of that, but I'm sure it can, whatever. If I had to fight, great, we'll fight. But I said all of that to say. You got to fight, like I said, you'll fight, I'll fight, it is what it is, but nobody's really fighting.
Starting point is 00:47:27 It's NBA, okay? It's a multi-billion dollar organization. Guys just aren't running around fight. But, so Cedric McAwell makes the statement, blah, blah, blah. He does this thing. So now, after game five, almost positive it was after game five. Yeah, I think it was after game five. I'm almost positive.
Starting point is 00:47:59 After game five, I go out and I do the Scott Van Pell show. And then I see to the left, my family still sitting in the same. stands over where they sit. So I go over there, kiss my family, hug them. I'm like, all right, I have to now head back to do, I just finished Scott Banpel. I now have to head back and do the media room. So in doing that where their seats are in the tunnel, I'm about to walk out of tunnel. Who's standing there? Gary Payton, Sr. and Cedric Maxwell. I'm with a few other people, but those are the two that I see. Now I notice. So I, so if G. If you, G.P. standing with his back to the stand.
Starting point is 00:48:40 Cedric Maxwell is, like, standing over here. So I, like, come into between them and I put my back to Sagerd Maxwell, and I tell G.P., nobody should ever be able to come to you and, like, think they can talk about me and they got a friend than you. Like, G.P., that's my OG, man. Like, even before a young GP got here, I used to play Domino's with G.P. Like, Oakland, real Oakland legend. Like, nothing but respect and love forever for G.
Starting point is 00:49:08 O.G. I said he shouldn't be able to come to you like he got a friend and you and talk about me. Because ain't nobody going to come to me and talk about GP. Like they got a friend. No, no. You're going to do one or two things. Either you're going to go tell GP that you told me you're going to punch him in his mouth. Or I'm telling you right now, I'm going to go tell him that you said you're going to punch him in his mouth.
Starting point is 00:49:31 Because if you're walking around saying you're going to punch this guy in his mouth, I think he should know. So I told GP that. And GP like, man, I ain't getting into all that. and he's standing right there. I said, I know he's standing right here. That's why I came and said it to you right now. Because I saw you earlier. But I ain't said to you earlier because I want him to know
Starting point is 00:49:52 when you're going to talk about punching somebody in the mouth, you got to stand on that. You can't just be walking around and talk like, oh, he could put. Well, you do the punching. You got to stand on that. And so I asked, you know, GP like none. And so then Sergio Maxwell, like, oh, man, I'm going to get out of here. Of course you are.
Starting point is 00:50:11 because you walking around talking about you're going to punch someone in the mouth or somebody would get punched in the mouth or whatever. But I'm playing basketball and I'm trying to gain an edge in a basketball game. Punching in the mouth has absolutely nothing to do
Starting point is 00:50:33 with basketball. So let's just keep this basketball. And so then he walks out, he walks off, I finished talking to GP. So then I walk out the same tunnel because I'm going to do my media. And he's standing there like, Dremont, let me talk to you.
Starting point is 00:50:48 And I'm like, it ain't really nothing to talk about. Like, you said I would get punched in the mouth. So I want to know are you going to punch me in the mouth? No, I ain't going to punch you in the mouth. I appreciate your game. Of course you do. So then stop talking about that. Like, there's absolutely no reason for you to be talking about me
Starting point is 00:51:06 getting punched in the mouth unless you're going to punch me in the mouth. And so it's just this whole thing of like, You saw Russ the other day check, skip payless. Like, Russell Westbrook. That man's name is Westbrook. Like, that man has children. That man has a family. That's a family name.
Starting point is 00:51:35 You're talking about Russell Westbrook. Again, people just run off talking and think they don't have to stand on that. You got to stand on them words, man. Your words mean something. You got to be willing to stand on that. And so that's like my whole thing with this new media. Stand on that. Real media?
Starting point is 00:51:58 But calling this man Westbrook. Like, what? Who are you? So, hopefully these guys will see this. They'll, of course, they'll look. look at it, they'll go respond and say, I'm not doing that, Bob. But if you know what's good for you, you got to make the adjustment, man, because people tired of that old-ass, tired stuff y'all giving.
Starting point is 00:52:29 They sick of it. Yours truly, the new media. Lastly, before I get out of here, let's talk about free agency. I also, oh, before I get to this, this will actually lead right into, where I'm going. Brian Winhorse said, after game five, that was a pocketbook win. The Warriors bought that win. I got no problems with Brian Winhorse.
Starting point is 00:53:11 I got no problems with Brian Winhorse at all, actually. I have a problem with that statement. The reason I have a problem with that statement was because it's very contradictory. How is it contradictory? Well, quite frankly, you guys said, paying Clay Thompson the money that he made coming off of his entry was a bad idea by Joe Lakewood. They should have paid him less money.
Starting point is 00:53:35 Blah, blah, blah, blah. Ah. You guys also said, Steph Curry, and the extension he signed, it was over. And that was it. Blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:53:50 You guys also said when Andrew Wiggins came to this team that we never went again, that we took on that bad contract and he's a zero and a bus and blah, blah, blah. You guys also said that I was washed up. Those are our four highest paid players. You had an issue with every single contract. The moment it's beneficial, it's no longer a problem.
Starting point is 00:54:21 Now we bought the win. How is that possible after y'all had an issue with every single one of the contracts I just mentioned, our top four contracts you guys had an issue with. How is there any such thing as a pocketbook win? For a team that y'all said was pathetic that would never win, that's baffling to me. Now, got to give Joe Lakers some credit. We do have the highest payroll in the NBA.
Starting point is 00:54:56 In large part due to we drafted well. Our team, our front office, our ownership, the ownership group, to go. They've done an incredible job. And number one, building the business of the Golden State Warriors, as we know it was not great in 2011 when they bought this team. So they built the business, an incredible one. They've drafted well, shout out to Bob Myers, the guy who did not receive a single vote for GM of the year, or executive of the year, did not see, he did not receive a single vote.
Starting point is 00:55:37 A single vote for a team that y'all said would never. win again, would never do anything. The guy who put this roster together did not receive a single vote for executive of a year. And for the smart addict that's out there, he may have received one. I don't think he received a single vote. That's no slight to whoever won executive of the year. But the guy who won a championship that put this roster together that y'all said was total horseshit, didn't receive one. Okay. So we know. We already know that there's a problem with the voting system. First team, NBP, DPOI, you name it.
Starting point is 00:56:22 We already know there's a problem there. So that just falls right into the category with that. It's pathetic. But the fact that we can have a pocketbook win on a roster that y'all said would never compete, that is baffling to me. Like I said, we do have the highest payroll. Got to give Joe Lekam credit there. Guys, not afraid to spend.
Starting point is 00:56:43 Which, by the way, we got some important stuff coming up, which we'll talk about in a second and the importance of it. But you can't say that. You just can't. Something that's baffling to me is that the Warriors, Steph Curry, spent here 13 years, drafted. Clay Thompson 11, drafted. Myself 10, drafted.
Starting point is 00:57:14 Wiggins. traded for, not signed, we traded for Andrew Wiggins. James Wiseman drafted. I think the next highest paid player after that, if I'm not mistaken, is Jonathan Camingo drafted. Kavanaughan Looney, drafted. The fact that we're paying the same tax penalties that teams are that can go buy a team is crazy.
Starting point is 00:57:45 Like, the fact that there are no, like, Okay, so you can go further into the tax if you have bird rights. But the fact that we've drafted all of these guys, and yes, the contracts get up there when you have success. But why is the tax rate the same exact tax rate as far as penalties go for someone if they just went and bought, when we say bought a team, if they went and signed every free agent that they didn't draft? Why is the taxes the same?
Starting point is 00:58:19 I don't understand that. Like, so to get penalized for drafting well, that doesn't really make sense to me. Because then what's the incentive of drafting well and keeping your guys if that's going to be the case? Prime example being we're in free agency. You got Kavon Looney, who's a free agent, who's going to do extremely well,
Starting point is 00:58:47 who's put himself in a great position. You get further penalized for giving him more money. But you drafted him with the 30th pit. Looney is by far next to Moses Moody, by the way. The most professional guys I've ever seen. Incredible, don't miss a beat. Not late. No issues. They'll never piss Steve Kerr off. Like, guys are great.
Starting point is 00:59:22 You signed, you drafted Looney with the 30th pick and now you're going to get penalized. That does not make sense to me. It doesn't make sense. We signed GP when no one else wanted GP, obviously not drafted. But, and so if there's a penalty there, I understand. You got Otto Porter who's also a free agent, Namalia B.A.L.L.A. Andre Goddala. If there's other penalties, I get it.
Starting point is 00:59:50 But for these guys, myself being one of them, that's like drafted here. The fact that you face the same penalties is baffling to me. It's baffling. It doesn't make sense because, again, what's the point of drafting well if you're going to get penalized ultimately for drafting well? You can't help but look at OKC who has all these draft picks and then wonder. They'll probably be able to, like, they may be able to, in the long run, keep two or three of these guys. Because the money is going to cost so much if these guys turn out to be good. But they're drafting these guys.
Starting point is 01:00:26 And so that right there is a little baffling to me. Like I said, I give Joe Lake up a lot of credit for all that he's been willing to spend and to keep this team going. Because like I told y'all before, we ain't done. We're not done. We're going to keep this train rolling. But the fact that there's no relief there is just baffling to me. So I think that's something that need to be looked at in this next CBA.
Starting point is 01:00:56 because, you know, and I know people will make the argument and say, well, yeah, but you got to help the small market teams out. Guess what? I don't really care. Like, you help them where you may, but, like, my pay doesn't get raised. I live in an expensive-ass San Francisco. And so the max salary, if I make the max salary in Oklahoma City, that money stretches way further than my money, my max, money would stretch in San Francisco, but they don't say,
Starting point is 01:01:32 oh, we're going to prorate your salary because the rent is more expensive or to buy is more expensive per square. They don't do that. But when it comes to small market teams, we get punished to saying, nah, if you're going to do that, then you got to make it that way across the board,
Starting point is 01:01:54 not just for a small market team or for this or that. then you have to take into account all of those disadvantages and advantages across the board, including for the players. And with that, I'm out of here. That's a wrap from this episode
Starting point is 01:02:08 of the Dremont Green Show. Your next episode after this will be JJ and I. Hope all of you enjoy it. Until next time, by the way, guess is on the way back. JJ is not a guess. He's been a guest.
Starting point is 01:02:23 J.J. and I are collabing and doing old man in the three. and the Draymond Green Show a collab. So JJ's not a guess. But guests are on the way back, and we're going to have some big ones. Stay locked in. Much love.
Starting point is 01:02:38 That's a rap from the Dreymond Green Show. Peace.

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